daamn I didn't know I needed that. listening to a guitar asmr at work 😀 thank you brudi!

The most despicable thing (besides the obvious thing) about As I Lay Dying and similar bands is that they pretended to be a Christian Metal band and instilled false morals, in order to establish a fan base (who are more interested in the religious message rather then music). Once these bands “make it”, they first beat around the bush and then deny any affiliation with being part of the Christian rock scene. It’s like the South Park episode where Cartman starts a fake Christian Rock band

i could never listen to All that remains any more once i found out Philip Labonte supports trump and is a regular guest on Tim Pool

I have some complaints and nitpicks but I'd rather use this space to expand on something that I don't hear people expressing often. Namely, the concept of "the death of the author" which is where the idea of separating a work of art or media from it's creator or creators. "Death of the Author" is not a way of thinking or approaching controversial art as an end user, that is to say that it has nothing to do with purchasing, supporting, or even enjoying a piece of media. "Death of the Author" is a tool of literary and media analysis. It's not about distancing the author from their work for your enjoyment, it's about putting aside what you know about the creator when interpreting and discussing the media in question. It allows the critic to look at an album as the album itself presents itself without considering influencing factors like the recording studio, budget, available technology at the time, and the zeitgeist surrounding the music scene or genre. Let's apply this to Burzum. With "death of the author" we can determine that the audio quality is poor, the instrumentation is clumsy and dull, the mastering leaves unpleasant and tinny sounds from what is likely cheap intruments, every song sounds like a poor uninspired attempt at baroque music. This analysis ignores some very crucial facts about the creator of the works; namely that most of it was recorded in prison using a very limited amount of secondhand instruments and with limited access to proper recording or mastering equipment. All of those mitigating factors can and should be considered when reviewing the work, because the music is meant to be evocative of baroque music but with a modern black metal aesthetic to update it for an audience that loves black metal, a genre already heavily influenced by baroque compositions. Bringing that in however means we need to consider composer Varg Vikernes' role in its creation. The fact that he was in prison for murder, his draw to black metal and baroque music comes from his white supremacist worldviews which suggests that his intent with creating this music is at least in some part hopes to inspire white supremacists and possibly even draw new people into that way of thinking by whatever means he can reach them. None of this is meant to be a true critical analysis of Burzum and its music, either part, I simply chose it because it seems the most appropriate for people visiting this videos comment section. The point is that separating the art from the artist isn't an ethos for choosing which art you enjoy and support. It's a tool that you use to gain a broader perspective on a piece of media to better understand the art not only as an individual piece but as a part of the greater media landscape. In short, you're supposed to do both, if you're not considering the authors input, influence, and intent behind the creation of the piece you are not examining the piece fully. You can absolutely enjoy a piece of media from a controversial artist, but if you're not mindful of why that artist is controversial and still supporting it then you are also supporting that artists views and actions even if you think that they are harmful.

I'm not sure where the anti mysoginy take on metal comes from. Rape and genital mutilation are some of the more frequent forms of edgelordism in metal and I love it. I think heavy music as a whole is far more about personal liberty in spite of a collective opinion which parallels with far right world views and so you do find there is more overall willingness to understand ones follies. Maybe the far right is more centrist than we thought as we do know that despite all of the heavily mysoginistic and 'racist' ideals from Nazi black metal are consumed by some of the most communally accepting and caring people out there. I think ever stepping into an art form that at its core is about a true rejection of humanity itself is going to come with some darkness. You may be a little too soft of hand to accept that Rowling is a perfectly normal human being and being opposed to indoctrination of children is perfectly fine but some people understand what it means to not be coddled through life and are happy to live and let live just allow the freedom of liberty and speech. This comes with the right to slander fags, carry on with heavy music after doing your time for trying to kill off your whore ex and revive your career after a tumultuously toxic relationship that was positioned far worse than ot was by a strategic smear campaign.

This man is the only person on youtube that i know who makes me feel like I'm actually sat down with him and a cup of coffee, talking in a direct and friendly manner, and at the same time giving pure, unambiguous knowledge THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE. the "start with the cabinet" approach just opened up a great window for me. Cheers.

With Marilyn Manson, I enjoy most of his music. I don't believe all the accusations against him, but then I wasn't there, so I won't say he didn't do anything but I hope he is living a better positive life. That being sad, I kinda separate the art from the artist with him I guess cause I enjoy his music so much. As I Lay Dying,I never really got into them so I'm not really affected like some people are.

Wtf are you talking about, it's not any of the things you say , it is racist and misogyny, ypur out orlf wack my guy, if you like it , listen to it , if not , don't,

You talk some utter bollocks. This is all in your head you melt

Spend your money on what you want. Totally your right. But metal is not, never has been, and never will be for one side of the political aisle. The whole "hiring someone to whack my wife" thing ok, fine, I can get behind that. But you've got some buzzwords of your own, buddy... I'm no nazi, but something tells me you're definition of nazi is much, much looser than mine is. Take care.

We'll the good news for marilyn manson fans. You don't have to separate the art from the artist, because he didn't do anything. The allegations have more holes them than Tony Montana at the end of scarface. Metoo activist Rose McGowan still hangout with him today. One of the accusers is now a defender of his.

Dude, you really wanna become soyjak, eh? If you preach inclusivity - you're obligated to not discriminate and include people who hate you equally as people who like you or indifferent. "racists should have no place in our inclusive community" is hypocritical, illogical stance.

Metal should be about music, if you want politics, go to a hardcore show....or black metal lmao. I think theyre a very loud minority and in a vast genre youre destined to find assholes. Most metal head are very progressive.

For fucks sake, man! Why you talking about SJW shit?!

100% agreed. A hack is also to buy a used shell set which will save you quite some cash. Unlike used cymbals, the shells typically never break (unless they were somehow thrown around, abused or in a car crash) and all you have to tolerate are a few dings and dongs which will appear sooner or later anyway. For me personally it's easier to just program the drums, because of my lack of drumming skills and proper recording setup for a drum. 98% of people will not be able to tell the difference between a good sounding programmed drum and analogue drums (which will typically have plugin sounds layered on top of them in metal / rock genres anyway), that's just possible with trained ears that producers and professional musicians have.

I don't separate, I accept that we as a collective are inherently flawed and most have good and evil in us. Most music and movies are made possible by multiple people and many of them you will never meet. I use gasoline, clothing, electricity and computers knowing that many of those industries have done and still do heinous things. I consume art, music and films never knowing if the key grip of a movie is a murder, if a sound engineer is a rapist. I have listed to bands where the singer (male and female) have allegedly committed crime that is not confirmed. I am flawed I consume meat, terrorized ants as a kid, may have committed fraud and other minor crimes to the eyes of some. In short if I am flipping channels and run into The Naked Gun 2 and a half I am not loosing any sleep cause The Juice is in it but it is also ok for you to flip the channel. ✌🏼

Metal welcomes all. True "inclusivity" That includes vile people. Don't like it, keep on walking!

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The fact that bands like Pantera, for example, still gets booked for gigs is disgusting.

So I completely separate the art from the artist. My memories - my experience of the music in my ears - in my life , has absolutely no connection to whatever the artist is doing in the other side of the planet. I couldn’t even imagine stop listening to some of my favourite artists .. the list is getting bigger n bigger. Metal does care , there’s people calling me all the -isms & -phobes, for listening to Pantera , Manson , Iced earth n most recently As I lay dying 😂 It’s so annoying being a strong anti rascist my whole life to be called one now cause I listen to that band !

So I completely separate the art from the artist. My memories - my experience of the music in my ears - in my life , has absolutely no connection to whatever the artist is doing in the other side of the planet. I couldn’t even imagine stop listening to some of my favourite artists .. the list is getting bigger n bigger.

Please don't taint the metal scene with your ghey gen z bullshit Leave gen x shit the fuck alone

Marilyn Manson is 100% innocent though , it’s super obvious. He’s just an easy target due to his persona. Look up colonel Kurtz, she proves everything.

What you described here is cognitive dissonance. All humans are capable of holding seemingly opposing ideas and acting on whichever is stronger, only later to contemplate whether or not it was the right thing to do. Just as supporting musicians for their art, but ignoring all the horrible things they are doing that go against all your instincts and beliefs. This is a psychological phenomenon.

God we need a new Anal Cunt or GG Allin to own you fucking moralistic assholes.

I may not agree 100% but I have always had the opinion that art and the artist are connected, and therefore, it's not simple for humans to separate the two.

I feel like Manson is different cause of how sketchy the accusers and a lot of their accusations are. Also I think it's foolish to separate the art from the artist for someone like Marilyn Manson who's so deeply intertwined in the lyrics he writes. I feel you can enjoy art that's inherently "bad" morally. Disregarding artists with evil traits goes against art imo because it's also part of the human condition, a massive part. Exploring your own mind, you'll run into good and bad and excluding either is dishonest as anti art.

Where the FUCK do you guys get inclusivity from? Metal isn't about that, it's about rebellion and being an individual. So right now that means standing against woke trends. It's about roughness and toughness, not wearing cat shirts lol.

I didn’t know JKRowling was r/\cist I thought she was a feminist

first off though i was the only PHILOSPHER in the metal scene so glad to see another d><b second normally i categorize philosphy and entertainment separate but metal expresses the dark and the controversial as art much much better then to act on these impulses so yes it is moraly grounded in that sense, metal has also alot of commengrounds with philosophy. both have avenues for exploring complex emotions/notions, pushing boundaries, and challenging conventional view points. (we dutch say- deze kader is the revu gepasseerd/ this frame passed the revenue) whether you or i agree with certain viewpoints is subjective. either it shimes or it doesn't tbh i also have no love for Nsbm altho some art of it is undeneible good/absurd-Landsknechtstrommel -what in this is actual as mssg of nazi'sm or folklore is a thin line in the past there was a certain bandmember of a certain band that had done a certain crime-> he was arrested put in jail and his name was no more in the band hence forth. does that mean the art died with that artist? yes there are rotten aples in every community but don't let it spoil your mind also shout out to melechesh they are doing awesome.

99% of the time I refuse to separate the art from the artist. Not only because I no longer want to give them any money, but also because there are so many other bands out there worth listening to that they won't be missed. Streaming has made finding them a bit easier too. The only time I really separate the art and artist is when the artist will no longer financially benefit and/or is long gone. A prime example is H.P. Lovecraft. The dude was extremely racist even for his time, but I love cosmic horror (also called Lovecraftian horror). That said, I prefer the works inspired by his stories over the originals so I guess even that exception is a wash.

God bless, Jesus saves! ‭John 3:11-21 ESV‬ [11] Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. [12] If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? [13] No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. [14] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, [15] that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. [16] “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. [18] Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. [19] And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. [20] For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. [21] But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

You can tune a drum, but you cant tune a cymbal

It's not about the gear, it's about the player.

Absolutely 100% I just bought set for a studio I teach at. I spent over half the budget on a ride, hats, crash - Entry level/ mid level drums can sound great w good heads and tuned properly. Shitty cymbals always sound shitty.

I agree. But also I knew a dude that preferred to use cracked, dull cymbals for his recordings. I suppose it gave him the dead, dry sound he wanted. It's easier to add volume and reverb to a dry drum, than try to gate an overbearing cymbal.

I'm like 15 seconds in and already 1000% agree!!! When I started, I was gigging with a cheap MIJ 70's Supreme drum that I paid all of 150$. I got new heads and learned to tune them good and started shopping for cymbals because the ones with it were shot!! One was a late 60's Paiste Ludwig Standard 18" that souned a bit thrashy with sharp attack and quick decay, I quite liked that one and it's still on my kit 25 years later!! Then I needed a hi-hat because the one I had was cracked real bad... Got one for cheap but hated it and ended up selling it at a loss when I got my current set of Paiste's... again, 25 years ago! Then, I wanted a ride and I'd played enough to know what I hated of the cheap brass one I had and what I wanted. I found a 70's Zildjian A that I liked. By that time I was playing in bands and that cymbals limitations came through, I loved the sound but itlacked the presence I wanted. I learned about rivets and one night at rehearsal, I brought my drill and put six holes in that sucker and neverhad any regrets!! Again, this one is a daily!! And so on... I had most of the cymbals I own today before I upgraded to my '75 Ludwig Vistalites. Until then, whenI showed up at gigs with my crappy drums, other bands would give me the side eye until we started playing!! Comments were along the lines of "Wow! that was unexpected!!" And of course, cheap drums with proper tuning and a quality set of cymbals will trump any top tier DW or boutique set of drums with an okay cymbal pack!!

Short answer: get the Paiste PST7 lineup. Literally just budget 2002 series. Save up for 2002 cymbals and slowly upgrade over time. When you’re playing live, people who aren’t drummers literally don’t notice. I promise.

Short answer: get the Paiste PST7 lineup. Literally just budget 2002 series. Save up for 2002 cymbals and slowly upgrade over time. When you’re playing live, people who aren’t drummers literally don’t notice. I promise.

I tend to believe separating art from the artist is largely a personal thing. I have removed Godsmack and Megadeth from my library because of their political leanings, but I have kept Marilyn Manson. I think the proper thing to do is approach each situation with nuance and understanding they are not all the same. Manson is known for being an asshole, but the whole situation with him has largely boiled down to finger pointing with no evidence to prove either side. I am also an Angry Joe fan and he was accused of SA some years ago, but he was able to produce receipts that back him up. We've also seen things like Jussie Smollet using the disgusting behavior of the right to fabricate something that never happened to him. I think we need to wait and see what happens when allegations are made. I am a huge Harry Potter fan, and I think that those books are still great reads, and the messages of inclusivity in them are still valid despite JK's horrible stance on the trans community. It really is just gonna depend on the art and what it means to you.

I have a hard time separating the art from the artist. I love Megadeth and Iced Earth but their fascist politics and support for dumb and absurd conspiracy theories kind of ruins it for me.

Seeing my old high school metal head friends turning into alt right ghouls is so depressing.

Marilyn Manson is actually rock, not metal, and there has actually been proof that he did nothing, all he is is an awkward autistic guy with trauma, I agree with your stance on as I lay dying though, I never really liked their music anyways

Go to the start of the video. Tap the "10 seconds back" function a few times very fast. Trust me.

Your audio quality does not match your channel! Worlds better than some bigger channels! Keep it up!❤

You can put a pillow into a kick, you can put a wallet on snare, put whatever into a drum, you can influence the sound in countless ways, you can't do any of that with a cymbal lol

Caveat, this does not apply if you are the type to break your b20 bronze cymbals. If so, buy cheap Wuhans or other cheap b20s to practice not breaking them first. Or keep the nice cymbals for recording/live only and cheap for practice.

when tf did you learn so much about drums? daayum!