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@wesleyhargis5115
@wesleyhargis5115 3 күн бұрын
I sent mine back to Smith 3 times and they kept saying nothing was wrong but they did a chamber and ramp polish twice and ga e me a mag once. It went from averaging a failure every 17 rounds to every 22 rounds. The only way to fix this gun is to not buy a smith and wesson. It was my third m&p and now i have 0. If smith won't stand behind their product then I won't either
@wra33vr7
@wra33vr7 4 күн бұрын
😉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@wra33vr7
@wra33vr7 4 күн бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@jjsifo1
@jjsifo1 10 күн бұрын
Excellent ,thank you.
@Han_no_mag
@Han_no_mag 20 күн бұрын
Хороший тест, хороший пистолет. Очень информативно. Благодарю.
@why-r7g
@why-r7g 21 күн бұрын
The grip feels like you're holding a rock, they need to do something to make it better.
@danr4746
@danr4746 29 күн бұрын
Why use 180 grain the 125 grain 115 grain and 230 grain? That is not good test to show the best of each round. You could have 125 in 9mm and 357 and then a very light caliber for 40 and 45 to maintain there velocity
@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521
@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 Ай бұрын
How you liking it with the factory sights? I see many on Reddit suggest replacing with standard or shorter tall sights. What’s your opinion thanks.
@azboomstickco4078
@azboomstickco4078 Ай бұрын
I have A LOT of experience with 40 S&W (probably 30,000 rounds at least). Your 10mm is suffering a lot of the same issues that early 40's did (like the Glock 22) that WASN'T designed for the 40 S&W cartridge it was a Glock 17 with a bigger barrel in it. The problem is two fold. 1st the cartridge does not work well with 200 grain bullets (they are just too big and get caught on the lip of the feed ramp. 2nd most target ammo for 10mm is loaded to 40S&W velocity because they're cheep bastards. The recoil spring is not too heavy or too light; the ammo isn't powerful enough (not enough velocity) to push the spring back. When you combine this with the 200 grain bullets you get a double whammy. ALSO 180 grain bullet 40S&W about 1050 FPS and 10mm 180 bullet FPS about 1200 FPS. I hope this helps. Peace out brother!
@003meech5
@003meech5 Ай бұрын
what mag is that
@KingSnappy4
@KingSnappy4 Ай бұрын
How much does the clip hold
@JohnTart-j2j
@JohnTart-j2j Ай бұрын
14.8 ACREAS OF LAND FOR SALE ON BROCK ROAD IN DUNN NORTH CAROLINA WITH ROAD FRONTAGE, CALL CAROLINA REALITY IN SMITHFIELD NORTH CAROLINA
@donaldpotter3200
@donaldpotter3200 Ай бұрын
I have the 4.6” model. Already put in the Galloway 24lb guide rod and spring, and also put in the Springer precision extra power mag springs. Holosun 507c rdx2 also sits on top of the slide. It’s cold in Idaho so Im waiting for a nicer day to go to the range and play
@craigfabiani3571
@craigfabiani3571 Ай бұрын
Underwood came out with a hard cast 180 grain bullet for the 357 sig. Is it safe to use in the current 32 block and other brand of guns that shoot 357 sig?
@silverhorder1969
@silverhorder1969 Ай бұрын
I’ve noticed most .357 Sig ammo is pushing good power. Where most 10mm rounds are simply loaded to .40 S&W levels. Which are weak. The exceptions are Lehigh, buffalo bore, & underwood. Because of that I lean towards the .357sig
@craigfabiani3571
@craigfabiani3571 Ай бұрын
I would like to see how well the hard cast 180 grain underwood 357 Sig ammo against the 200 grain Underwood hard cast bullet for the 10mm does
@craigfabiani3571
@craigfabiani3571 Ай бұрын
How about testing the underwood 180 grain 357 Sig ammo
@craigfabiani3571
@craigfabiani3571 Ай бұрын
How about testing the Underwood 180 grain .357 Sig ammo to see the difference
@Dv087
@Dv087 Ай бұрын
I have the same problem with my Kimber Polymer. I have converted it to take the 45 Super or 450 SMC. Wolfe Springs to the rescue.
@kaykisor8411
@kaykisor8411 2 ай бұрын
Please, no more guns and ammo videos.
@D-A-1776
@D-A-1776 2 ай бұрын
And thats why i carry 10mm in the woods
@GradyM40A6
@GradyM40A6 2 ай бұрын
Please explain why these 2 PISTOLS are weapons and not just handguns? This is one of the multitude of reasons why the morons on the left want to disarm. Calle them what they are..PISTOLS.
@Meh-hr7gq
@Meh-hr7gq 2 ай бұрын
They use too heavy a grain in .40, the sweet spot for .40 is between 150 and 165. Get that mug closer to 1300-1350 FPS. Thats the sweet spot imo.
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 3 ай бұрын
Considering the latest price difference, the 10mm is now the cheaper of the two. If I was recoil sensitive, I would choose the .357Sig, but not if I wasn't. Things have changed in the last four years. 357Sigs are getting phased out in online stores.
@ibzrgman9130
@ibzrgman9130 3 ай бұрын
I have the same model in 4" didn't know there was a problem until seeing this. Good info. I do have a m&p 45 also but in 4.6" seem to not want to lock into battery even without feeding a round.. Its only occasionally it does this.. I wonder if a 22lb spring would fix this. It's not a carry gun so not a huge deal.
@Blahblah-m8l
@Blahblah-m8l 3 ай бұрын
I've got the 4.6 m&p 2.0 10 mm put over 600 round through it, and I've owned it for only 2 months. But I have yet to have any issues. Running any ammo at all. Mag tech sellier blazers several different holopoints and a box of bear rounds. don't seem to matter it will eat it up and spit it out flawlessly.
@Blahblah-m8l
@Blahblah-m8l 3 ай бұрын
I have yet to clean my gun and don't plan on touching it until I experience my first failure. I will let you know when that happens. Only thing I dont like that I can't seem to find a good replacement is the factory tall mf sights!! I'd like a shorter night's sight if anyone knows of any.
@Swampytheroot
@Swampytheroot 3 ай бұрын
Unconventional. Suggestion; bolt a piece of clear laminate to each side to keep the projectiles in the target. They're not likely to damage it, and you can look inside the target from both sides to see what happened. And tighten up on the aim! Lol! Get those things separated by 3 or 4 inches so there's no chance it hit an area already weakened by the previous damage. I like it, though. Nice presentation
@alexandrefaier8611
@alexandrefaier8611 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! It looks like the 357 SIG is the future of pistol calibers. Excellent penetration, a test with a submachine gun in this caliber would be interesting. Cool video.
@docdreezy
@docdreezy 3 ай бұрын
Why doesn't S&W fix it you should have to come out of pocket because of a defect from factory.
@7N6ballistics
@7N6ballistics 4 ай бұрын
I have found the mag springs are the primary source of issues in striker fired 10mm. The extra power mag spring seems to solve the issues as it both slows reward slide velocity and presents cartridge to feed ramp in a more timely manner… I haven’t found extra recoil spring to matter much..in some cases it made things worse. I believe this is because manufactures use same mag spring regardless of caliber…. Using an extra power spring may reduce capacity..and they dont want that. 1911s benefit from a flat bottom firing pin stop..this allows for lower slide velocity without the need for a change in mag springs.. Extra power recoil springs can increase return velocity of the slide..exacerbating low power mag springs.
@maineconservative2834
@maineconservative2834 4 ай бұрын
The bonus package on the 357 sig, the necked down case makes for absolutely no chambering issues. The most reliable I have ever carried.
@swompy5146
@swompy5146 4 ай бұрын
What are the chances that M and P will add the new springs themselves??? Back to thinking about Springfield
@williamhsmithjr2991
@williamhsmithjr2991 4 ай бұрын
Well done. It would be good for hunting or shooting through concrete or a wind shield. For self and home defense, please be careful of over penetration. It would go along way.
@jrellsworth3708
@jrellsworth3708 4 ай бұрын
How does adding a stronger recoil spring effect felt recoil of the gun,,, nobody has talked about this in the remarks.
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 4 ай бұрын
Interesting channel name
@danielsmith5023
@danielsmith5023 4 ай бұрын
Is a 357 stronger than a 45 long colt ?
@angrysheepdog9744
@angrysheepdog9744 4 ай бұрын
10mm is a beast! but 357 SIG is also a perfect solution for most situations. Not sure why underwood loads the X Penetrator 25 ft lower than their 125gr. The 115gr can safely be loaded to 1600fps = 650ft-lbs on a projectile that is velocity dependent.
@CDCraig99
@CDCraig99 4 ай бұрын
Well now i know if we ever get attacked by aluminum monsters to use 10mm
@SteveJames-u3u
@SteveJames-u3u 4 ай бұрын
I Liked the looks of this gun but i may stick with FN ... Never see Write Ups of Problems like this .....😢
@samtaylor7800
@samtaylor7800 4 ай бұрын
Great video can you do another video like this and use underwood hard cast 200gr 10mm and a hardcast 357 sig so we can see which has better penetration. Thx
@KerrariKors
@KerrariKors 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha😂🎉 you got some 900 fps Winchester white box against a 1400 fps hot 357 sig 125 gn 😂 youre funny Put some underwood on the table lol 1300fps 155 gr madness from the 40 Stopit lol i still like the 357 round
@bobbyshaftoe
@bobbyshaftoe 5 ай бұрын
WHy acrylic? Polycarb would be the way to go.
@mjb-od6tr
@mjb-od6tr 5 ай бұрын
why use the 180 grain .40? Use 155 to 165 grain. It will make a difference
@JD-tn5lz
@JD-tn5lz 5 ай бұрын
I own the 4", the 4.6", and the comped PC. Haven't had one problem with the shorter ones, but the PC has been a headache. By the way, even the Glock 20 has only a 17lb OEM recoil spring. Either way, I've since made some orders with Springer, Galloway, and Wolff. Pretty sure that'll take care of the issues. Oh, and take this from an Alaskan who has shot bear, unless you're in truly LARGE animal country you really don't need 200 or 220gr hardcast for deadstop on your puny little black bears and pigs. 180gr at 1200 or 1250 will be quite sufficient.
@JD-tn5lz
@JD-tn5lz 5 ай бұрын
Now all you need to do is visit Apex Tactical and turn this sidearm into a rockstar😁 At least change out the striker block with the Apex product. It'll smooth out that trigger and remove the creep.
@oheeee1251
@oheeee1251 5 ай бұрын
Same problems, also had the mags dropping out. I am not spending a dime trying to fix S&W problems, I will keep on sending it back, or I will drop S&W like a bad habit,
@rickystephens7253
@rickystephens7253 6 ай бұрын
You have good content bro..💪 Put out more!💥
@h.r.puffnstuff8705
@h.r.puffnstuff8705 6 ай бұрын
357 sig still gapped the 10 despite the shorter barrel. I feel pretty confident if the barrel lengths were equal the penetration difference would have been a bit greater. You can’t go wrong with either one but the Sigs ticks more boxes for my needs .
@2222223344
@2222223344 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps balls of the same weight should have been used for an equivalent test
@Simobunjevac
@Simobunjevac 6 ай бұрын
did you put Wolfe springs in?