It’s gameplay + players

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Respectfully I think your problem with the word stems from the draft conversation not the aftermath of a career. And in that sense I’d say though KD, Giannis, and Jokic I think are great examples of a type of game a way of dominance we probably will never see again and with go down as generational players they weren’t stamped with that tag coming in. The emphasis when coming in is more similar to your Wemby take this guy has the potential, this guy has the tools etc. which obviously I agree with. So I think when calling a prospect generational not only is it an individual tag you put on the player as a scout/analyst but EVERYONE thought Zion would be and he had the tools to be shoot if he somehow got past the injuries and stayed on the court he probably still could be, is it likely anymore? No, but that’s why when viewing a players career after it’s over or over a decade in like Jokić and Giannis is so different that trying to be right on who that next guy definitely is. Same thing could be said for Curry as I said for KD, Giannis and Jokic. My point here is the differentiation on when the word is used is major, and as it does go for draft prospects I do agree it is used too much, but you ca change the tag you put on the player at the time just because they didn’t pan out that way, it’s better to say they had the tools to be generational they were a generation talent at the time, but if Vic wasn’t doing what he is doing we couldn’t just change the fact he was the most hyped since LeBron coming into the league. Idk I think heinsight adds a lot to the conversation obviously but what was said is typically an indication of how the general community felt or a specific person felt about a prospect. Now as it goes for the Kobe point. I see your point as he did overlap with Jordan and Lebron, even succes Mike still won after he entered the league and Lebron made the finals before Kobe was done winning. But I think from a career analysis standpoint on the term “generational” it means the type of player who we will probably never see again including what they accomplished and how they did it. That being said if Jordan is then Kobe is too it just so happens that somehow a near replica of the greatest player of all time played at the same time as him. For instance if Kobe just entered the league today and was a rookie and went down the same career path (obviously not possible but it’s a hypothetical so stay with me) we would view him as generational, we would say the same things such as “the second coming of Jordan” I think the way Kobe actually separates himself to be different is their mindset/work ethic (to be clear they both along with and player that accomplishes that much are on another level from any other player) it’s the difference between the Mamba Mentality of I will outwork myself before you outwork me that seeming inhuman will to be better (Kobe) vs the I just am better I put the work in, I am am better and you say otherwise I’ll show you I am (Jordan) that difference though similar is what allowed Kobe to be the next Jordan and I don’t think that will, that desire and that success in doing exactly what he planned to do will be match so in my opinion they are both “generation players”. My list would probably be slightly longer than yours too the same point though I might have players you don’t and you might have players I don’t neither takes away from their greatness it is just a different categorization of them and my list would also be split into two lists “generational players” players who I without a doubt look back on and view as generational and “generational talents” players who had all the tools to do it and were viewed as so prior to their career. There would be some overlap but I think if we looked back a lot of the guys who did become generational were never viewed as so coming in and a lot of the guys who were supposed to never ended up being so. Anyways great video it’s been a minute since I caught a vid of yours but keep up the great work on your solo channel and on the pod TTW/NOTB has been my favorite basketball pod for years and though I haven’t watched yall as much recently keep up the good work anytime I tune in I know it’ll be the best basketball discourse I hear all week.

Sleepy Riley took Jimmy, saw it was good then napped for 5 years.. He should retire.

lol Jimmy not going nowhere, yall swear😂

GSW Bron (and Bronny) Derrick Lively II Mavs AD LA Whatever makes it happen 😂

Rockets arent going to get Jimmy. Stone has had they arent gonna dump the roster for a star this year. Jimmy isnt worth it,

Memphis is so tough! Ja is legitimately one of the top guys in the league. His presence is top 5 in my opinion. I’m not saying raw stats, I’m saying what he’s worth to a team. In my opinion he’s the top 5 most valuable players in the league. Morant can score 35 points a night, but he is the most unselfish superstar in nba today. He has developed these young people because he’s so smart, he knows that him balling out doesn’t mean nothing if it doesn’t translate in the playoffs. Then Jaren Jackson, THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER IN THE NBA, is so damn valuable! One of the best defensive players in the league AND ONE OF THE BEST SELF CREATORS IN THE LEAGUE. 80% of Jackson’s points are self creation. The dude is ONLY 25!!!! JUST TURNED!!!! Even his weakness, rebounds at 6 a game, that is in 27 minutes of play. Jackson is top 10 in value in the nba. Again, when I say that, who would you rather have right now move to your team, Damion Lillard or Jaren Jackson. Lillard ranks much higher, but any team would choose Jackson because the horizon is endless. Desmond Bane, started off slow and is figuring it out. Bane has been 2/3 and he struggled after that oblique injury, but he’s coming on line. Bane is so damn good! As good as you see this team, They are still without the following key players that are either starters or 20 plus minute bench players: Zach Edey, Vince Williams and GG Jackson. I am starting to believe this may be a championship team. They have a decade they could play together, easily. I’m saying the whole team minus smart who is 30. They are financially very healthy! If injuries are at a minimum, this team could be the next team to win multiple championships. A championship is so unlikely for any team, it’s an amazing accomplishment, but we are seeing all the right stuff for that.

Masterful vid P

You know your stuff mane! As a Memphian we appreciate the love and unbiased analysis. Mainstream media is incapable of such.

You know your stuff mane! As a Memphian we appreciate the love and unbiased analysis. Mainstream media is incapable of such.

I actually agree with all of this

LESSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

P love ur vids and input, I gotta hard disagree w this one man. U just basically named the top 15 players of all time and called only them generational except Kobe and Wemby. I agree 1 of 1s are generational, but I think that's a term that should be used for more players than just the top 15 oat. I think Zion was 100% a generational talent. Also, ur only looking at players that acc panned out, which I think is unfair. Generational talent is not a hindsight award to give out; it's something u do during the scouting process. I don't think Jokic was a generational talent, because he wasn't like that during draft time. Ofc he's a top 15 oat and generational player, but there's a huge difference between talent and player imo. For example I think Yao was a generational talent, but curry wasn't

As a houston fan i don’t really want to give up cam withmore, that dude showed some flashes of potential star and even tho he falled out of the rotation i still believe in him

That heat package is trash 😅

Jimmy for Julius

Salut des de Catalunya. Bon dia. You at minute 02:00: (excerp from a famous conversation between a younger Pep Guardiola and Marcelo El Loco Bielsa about coaching) 🎤A very good player... everybody can tell, Pep: you, me, reporters, my granny... Same for a bad player, What actually counts is to watch a player apparently nor that good neither that bad and realize he has a specific talent that can be used to impact the game.🎤 Great minds think alike?

Shoutout to you for doing the knowledge! They don’t even know about Cam Spencer yet either!

GrizzGang!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

probably will never happen but if Murray keeps playing like he has been, the Nuggets trading for Butler would be a good move

Heat fan here. I think we need to trade Herro and butler. I’d like to get Sengun to slide in next to bam, but I know Houston won’t do that. The other teams don’t have anything that I would want besides draft capital. I say we load up on picks because we’re not contending again any time soon

The G does not stand for Go 💀 jimmys bets chance of winning a tittle is with Miami. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t know ball

I really like your opinion on the rockets trade package because no way we are giving up one of jalen, tari, bari or amen for jimmy butler

the heat are 1 game behind the knicks bozo!

jimmys not going anywhere. lol stop taking a victory lap clown

U act like the heat ain’t good wit jimmy when they right under ur knicks in the standings even wit all those moves u made 🤣

big fan P, on twitter and youtube keep grinding. PS ur thumbnails are fire

I think the terms should be generation (like Jordan lebron talent) and unicorn (shaq,giannis, wemby, stuff that is realistically 1 of 1

Kobe mindset generational

they said no to bradley beal because his summer and portland fooled themselves into thinking miami got outbid

I haven't finished the vid yet, but I greatly appreciate the truly in-depth analysis. Grizz hype

Heat should push a trade with the Rockets. Reed + Cam + a Suns and/or a Nets 1st rounder looks like a fair price and a fair return. Rockets dont give up the most important part of the young core and gets a guy who is a play-off ace, a clutch closer and a beloved leader. Heat lacks talent, so they get a good pick and two high potential players. this trade gives Miami two options; the young guys can go right into the rotation if the Heat wants to build around Bam, but gives them the option to go full rebuild mode.

We can matchup with anyone bc of JJJ

One of the best vids I’ve watched recently, P. Love your approach with your clear research and knowledge 🫶

The entire trade machine you did is irrelevant because of the Second Apron. Heat cant get more than one player back.

Knowing our FO it’s more likely they let em walk for nothing than trading him

I will say raefel stone has said that he is happy with what we have on the rockets and something would have to be too good, if giannis wasn’t that I don’t know who is

Time to create A Newer Model of Heat Culture, it's not a good look when players would rather end up places than the City of Miami because of the old Culture, training and other rules

As a Miami fan, I don't think we trade him to a team in the East. Miami tries to compete every year for the playoffs and I don't see a world where Pat Riley makes a team in the eastern conference better even if this is a slight rebuild. Even after Wade was gone, Miami was still competing for the playoffs. It was until Bosh had blood clots that they weren't trying to compete. I think of the year they started 11-30 then went 30-11 and barely missed the playoffs. They never commit to a full rebuild and always hold out hope for the playoffs.

Kumimga,podz and tracey jackson for jr Barrett

To be honest with you bro he fits better with the Dallas Mavericks then Houston

Wilt Chamberlain was Shaq before Shaq

These thumbnail get better and better

Best Fit: Dallas Mavericks Good Fit: Golden State Great Fit: Houston Rockets Horrible fit: Phoenix Suns (WTH is this trade package look like) Jimmy’s market it tough rn. Not a lot of suitors, best fits either have cap issues or are playing good enough that they don’t need to add a player like Jimmy, especially as a rental. Should’ve traded his ass last year Pat…..

Man stay in the east it’s to many stars tryna go to the west

We don't want Jimmy bro -Rocket fan

32:24 answer the phone!!!🤣

That kings trade is a good move for both teams

Phoenix suns can trade for Kyle kuzma for Josh okogie Grayson Allen that would give them a wing player I no Grayson is a good player