055: We Talk About The Past Year At Watcher

[@Northstars0422]

If Puppet History has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Puppet History has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Puppet History has only one fan then that is me. If Puppet History has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Puppet History, then I am against the world. Please keep going with Puppet History!

[@iiserenity]

Puppet University students sound off! 🫡

[@mksketchms]

Genuinely my favourite show in the world it brings me so much joy

[@gauchegreyhound]

Same, I'm waiting eagerly for the next season!

[@madskatz8932]

so happy to see this is the top comment

[@shanemotown295]

Puppet history is one of the best productions and needs to be protected and provided.

[@SultanaFerdous1]

Please, never stop making Top 5 Beatdown. The asinine topics need to be thoroughly vetted though. As a viewer, I found the topic, the banter (especially S&R vs Guest), the compelling reasonings behind something being on tbe list, and the editing to be the most important factors of this show. The more dramatic the editing, the more engaging the episode of Top 5 Beatdown.

[@ollie6563]

yes i literally watched that series just in anticipation of what insane choice Shane would pick for #1 and the following chaos!

[@alyssaruiz_24]

Yes! I feel like it would be better if it was cast only too! I want Steven and Matt and Lizzy and Carter (sorry if I forgot you) on there so I can get to know the cast and team better!

[@SultanaFerdous1]

​@@alyssaruiz_24 but then there will be less than 25 videos left of Top 5 Beatdown, won't there? Any guest is good, the guest just need to articulate very very well.

[@alyssaruiz_24]

@ endless topics! Plus guests sometimes lol. I’m just not a fan of all the guests but I’m kind of a stinker haha

[@T.Florenz]

It's in my top 5 favorite Watcher shows list 🧡

[@marialyar6097]

"Puppet history WILL be returning" *biggest sigh of relief ever known to mankind unleashed* But seriously ty guys for this video, it helped clear up a lot of the questions myself and friends have had

[@thokim84]

If they remade the history channel and did it all puppet history, it would be the best that the history channel had ever made.

[@Burrrrski]

I’d be so crushed if puppet history ended

[@TooMuchViagra]

To Ryan's comments about " wanting to be like the good stuff" you guys are the good stuff.

[@T.Florenz]

Agreed

[@Padre_diego_longoose]

They really are. I watch more of their stuff than tv. Tv isn’t what it was when they were coming up. Tv is trying to be like them now.

[@emilybarker3240]

Literally my favorite shows are the X files and watcher stuff. You guys are the good stuff ❤

[@woodspellapothecary637]

I think what you guys are missing is that we didn't come for food content or spooky content, we came for YOU. anything you guys are passionate about is what appeals to us. I don't think it's necessary to overcomplicate it and try and separate you content. Just make what you want, we're here for it all

[@rainiwakura2430]

view numbers say otherwise unfortunately.

[@stewboyq5216]

Straight I just want to see Ryan and Shane bullshit lol

[@Shooketh__]

@@rainiwakura2430 Agreed. Making content still requires money no matter how much they try to simplify it.

[@skyleigh1180]

These guys you just showed us they are ripped out souls, even though they already did an apology video, to show their regret and earnest intentions. Dear God, I think they all three need a good drink and a big hug. Love you guys, admire you for never stop trying

[@carolclmcm1214]

so so true. bless them for being sweethearts.

[@melanieramey-pl4ih]

I have stage 4 cancer and YOUR content has played an immeasurable part in my sanity and happiness. I have so much stress and fear, but when I watch ANYTHING you guys put out, I am so content and stress free!

[@katherinewade8298]

Hi stranger on the Internet, we love you and you are very strong. You've got this ❤️

[@dmoury]

I pray you get well I couldn’t even imagine having cancer I get well. ❤️‍🩹

[@serenakotary7757]

I had breast cancer a few years ago, got diagnosed at 25 years old and I watched sooo much Buzzfeed Unsolved and after, Watcher. They are my comfort show too! Keep fighting!! I hope all goes well for you :)

[@giancarlotiffer5809]

Sending well wishes your way.

[@gina6127]

You are amazing ❤ sending love and strength your way and wishing you all the best x

[@cassandralayne3373]

I don’t comment much on videos, but when Ryan said that he felt like the mistake made him feel like he’s not a good person 18:03, that made me really sad. You are not your mistakes. You’re a good person and don’t let cruel people on the internet tell you otherwise. You did not mean to hurt anyone and I think the way y’all handled things proves that. Same goes for Shane and Steven. We love y’all and the shows you create. Please be kind to yourselves.

[@heathersuchnicki4619]

Please don't stop making whatever kind of content you guys want to make! I'd hate to see watcher get pigeonholed into only making one or two kinds of shows just because some people think you should only be allowed to make spooky stuff for the rest of your lives. I subscribed to watchertv because i was excited to see what other kind of content could be made when worrying about finances wasn't as big an issue

[@Tarana26]

I agree with this. Don't restrict yourself unduly because of a few assholes on the internet. I love your other shows that aren't explicitly spooky! At least keep some experimental stuff on the streamer.

[@JessicaGuzman-u1d]

I agree!! It’s their channel, they’re allowed to make the things they wanna make. It bugs me when the comments say “we just want you to sit at the table with subtitles on the screen” like that’s not what they want to do. ;-;

[@FenrisNails]

Isn’t the problem that we had to pay quite a lot for the content and not that they cannot do what they want? The pay for the streamer is more than I would pay for a few of the streamingplatforms and comparing the amount of shows, movies etc with different content and people, watcher is, unfirtunately, way to expensive for me. I don’t have a lot of money and if I have to choose, I choose the platform with the most value in terms of amount of wanted entertainment. I would understand if they then chose to remove themselves from youtube, bit woukd then just miss them. They can choose to do what they want, but they also have to take a hit, financially, if the audience don’t want the solution - so they have every right to produce what they want, but ultimately they need the income from somewhere to do it.

[@danielgarza7707]

Agreed!!

[@ImekaSF]

Y'all made a business decision a bit in a silo - as someone who has been in the professional world for a long time, this kind of stuff happens a LOT. You also responded and pivoted quickly and well. While some of the audience reaction was genuine, much of it was disproportionately awful (esp. towards Steven), which is in part a symptom of this weird parasocial internet culture we find ourselves in. People going onto your personal Instagram posts and writing terrible things was so out of pocket - I know that it is cliche to say that those comments reflect more about them than it does you, but it IS true. I really enjoy the streamer. And as long as I am still interested in the content (Ghost Files: Alone is incredible, btw) I will continue to support you, and I am looking forward to seeing what comes next.

[@monicagiangrosso3222]

I couldn't have said it better, myself. This comment is IT!!!!!!!

[@mykopistar]

Same! Very well said!

[@nicolegibsonlmft]

Exactly! It was very strange how people turned so ugly about this app.

[@KO-um6tv]

To add to that I saw comments about their wives too and dissecting their personal lives which is just insane behavior. Parasocial relationships are not healthy and it’s crazy that people feel so comfortable harassing and cyber stalking strangers because they felt disappointed by them.

[@SultanaFerdous1]

Matt Real complements this podcast extremely well, bringing out the best in Shane, Ryan, & Steven.

[@jarnold1789]

He’s great, adds a lot. He asked good questions here

[@micanugg196]

Yeah, insightful questions that don't pander or sound preplanned.

[@zulals]

i hope yall see the comments about people not wanting only spooky content. we want all kind of content!!! we love top 5 beatdown, food files, www, travel season, worth a shot and obv puppet history! they're all so fun! and it keeps the channel more interesting.

[@katherinel3399]

For what it’s worth, I will say I never got the sense this was done out of greed. You guys make the most high-quality, hysterical, warm-your-soul content that honestly gets me through the day (and life). The fact that I get any of it for free blows my mind. I am more than happy to pay and support, regardless of whatever platform you are on.

[@JennyNYC1]

I fully appreciate that it was a damned if they do/damned if they don’t scenario. So many fans were asking them to go to international locations for ghost files and outside of Cali for weird wonderful word, and asking them to bring on other guests for puppet history; but those all have costs, so I feel like it was only natural for them to move to a different money making module and still keep fans happy. But I get it’s a tough time to ask fans to do that. I appreciate their honesty but I hope they know we appreciate them regardless and still hope they aim for their creative greatness ❤

[@JessicaGuzman-u1d]

That’s the thing that I’m confused about. I saw a lot of comments saying that they want more international stuff and then they do and then now the comments are “no?? If you guys need the money, just stay in Cali?? Just sit behind the table and talk to the camera??” 😂

[@lauraminet6259]

I normally don’t comment on KZbin, but I wanted to express how proud I am of you three. I am sorry that you dealt with so much negativity and, honestly, a lot of completely unnecessary mean spiritedness. I am especially sorry for Stephen, and hope he didn’t take any of that ugliness to heart. You have all handled it very well, and have shown a lot of real maturity.

[@iokua1120]

Maybe you should stick to not making comments

[@KatieRaeRae]

@@iokua1120 dude, evaluate your life.

[@iokua1120]

@@KatieRaeRae Retired at 40 and no bills (cars/house/toys paid in cash) and a hot wife with a six pack at 42. I think I’m fine.

[@KatieRaeRae]

@@iokua1120 😂

[@iokua1120]

@@KatieRaeRae haha (good sport I see)

[@austyn-s5f]

any reasonable person will understand this and where you guys are coming from. as an audience member i appreciate your honesty and the genuine effort you all put into this work. IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. THIS IS WORTH IT.

[@melsbells99]

the accusations of greed, especially the extra criticism steven got, always made me sad. i didn't agree with y'all's choice and was happy to see it rolled back, but it was obvious you guys weren't just being greedy and were just trying to make sure you and all your staff are financially stable. and since then i've even paid for a few months of watcher tv. you guys are great and i hope i get to see the streamer help y'all make more awesome stuff.

[@melsbells99]

regarding content, Travel Season was award-worthy but i also love the stuff that's relatively cheap to make like Top 5 Beatdown and Survival Mode. also, while you guys double down on Ghost Files, keep doing Food Files!! it's so fun and since steven is involved in some of the spooky content, i like that it overlaps the ghoul boys with food content.

[@Darkwolf-ey4jz]

it was definitely Stevens idea

[@STSGuitar16]

there was ABSOLUTELY some greed involved in their decision, dude. I find it very hard to believe a channel with 3M subs is truly struggling for money. And if they are, that is a clear sign that they are operating the business side of things absolutely horribly. Don't kid yourself.

[@Darkwolf-ey4jz]

@STSGuitar16 bet anything it was Stevens idea

[@stephaniers415]

Yeah I felt pretty terrible for what people were saying especially about Steven and his show.

[@emilienantel]

for what it’s worth, the production value, hard work, care and attention to detail you put in your videos is one of my favourite things about Watcher. strongly disagree with the comments saying we just want you two behind a desk with text on screen on a cheap camera - they do not speak for all of us

[@rohaneowyn]

THIS!!!

[@katherinel3399]

100%

[@lizasaguin]

MY EXACT THOUGHTS!! YES!

[@anyalouisa]

1000000%

[@annawilkinson3835]

Appreciate the introspection but you really didn’t murder anyone. Switching to a streaming platform was a perfectly reasonable and logical decision. The communication was a bit wonky but you course-corrected. You really don’t owe people the rest of your careers. Watcher is one of the good ones. Happy to be on the streamer and to support whatever you continue doing. It’s brought me a lot of comfort and enjoyment over the years.

[@Katie-ly2mu]

@@annawilkinson3835 i second this! ✋

[@ryanbontrager5700]

They don't owe the rest of their careers but it's still nice to see them acknowledging their mistakes and not pretending like that incident never happened.

[@annawilkinson3835]

@ I don’t feel that way, but if it has helped other people feel better about it, then good.

[@ryanbontrager5700]

​@@annawilkinson3835 a lot of people haven't moved on and it's understandable if they haven't. If you want to bury your head in the sand and act like they weren't initially taking their fanbases loyalty for granted then that's great for you, I guess.

[@annawilkinson3835]

@@ryanbontrager5700 I disagree. There have been more than enough apologies and compromises. I hope people can get on with actually watching and enjoying watcher. It’s good stuff. If not, eh. 🤷‍♀️

[@Chingleton]

Honestly this conversation I don't think was needed but it is very much appreciated that you wanted to reflect on the moment and dig deeper into your reasons for why you made the decisions you made. I think the amount of backlash and the level of vitriol you all received was so much more than it deserved and honestly it goes to show how terrible people and society is in this day and age. I really do hope all of this doesn't discourage you guys and know that what you guys do is appreciated and I wish nothing but all the success for you and your staff!

[@wiggens_boondiggles]

More Survival Mode please. More and longer episodes in a season would also be nice. Easily my favourite thing you guys do. Survival Mode, Puppet History, Top 5 Beatdown, and Too Many Spirits are why I’m here.

[@AllisonKirstukas]

I’m hoping for more poppy playtime videos :)

[@Knowsy_chaos_muppet]

Puppet History and Survival Mode are soft, cozy blanket shows.

[@wiggens_boondiggles]

@@Knowsy_chaos_muppet That is the exact appeal of those shows for me. Couldn’t have put it better myself.

[@TrevSheep]

These are my favourite shows too!

[@ladydavie]

Please add this video to the main channel. I know there are a lot of people that were upset in April and don't watch the pod, but would see this very important discussion there. That being said, I love your content and will support you all through every endeavor. You are so talented and a great place to leave all the BS at the door

[@jaredromero6076]

The owners and employees of Watcher are good artists who deserve to be paid for their work. People don't bat an eye when amazon makes subscribers watch ads with no price change or when netflix increases its paywall for the same service. I think a lot of the hate came from misplaced working class rage and the parasocial relationships a lot of viewers have with this content. Thanks for always making videos that put a smile on my face.

[@Shooketh__]

That's a great point, I agree

[@meganashlea]

I agree with you, I did subscribe to the watcher streamer (even though I’m still watching things on KZbin a lot 😂). I cancelled my Hulu and have ordered some merch. Over the years I haven’t paid for any of their content up until that point and I truly enjoy most of it. I want to see them succeed and I’m happy they were able to come I’m with a compromise after the backlash.

[@whatsarahsays9304]

What do you mean?? EVERYONE bats an eye when ads get added to Amazon or Netflix increases prices

[@pixels_per_minute]

Literally, everyone complained about Amazon and Netflix screwing over subscribers. People complain about that type of stuff all the time.

[@larissahhhh]

Bums me out that you guys feel the need to still apologize. There were some vile, racist comments during that time. It made me sick to my stomach that those people called themselves fans. I 100% understood why you needed to do it. I immediately paid for the very discounted year price. I'm glad you guys are taking it in stride with your good humor, but man, some of these so called fans were NASTY. Love you guys and I'll support you whenever and however I can. You bring me such joy!

[@larissahhhh]

Also I don't think it was a "mistake" to think your audience would have supported this decision considering how transparent you've been about the company struggling since the beginning. You got so many of us thru the lockdown. I don't think you made a mistake at all.

[@elliottjunkyard2185]

100% agree

[@keshiagonzales-]

I agree!!!

[@yabagoobie]

glazing

[@snuggsaccnt]

I personally LOVE puppet history. I like learning things and you make it incredibly fun and entertaining. I also love weird wonderful world, and the food files, food content in general. I dont think you need to move it in my opinion. I like that this channel does a lot of different content!

[@snuggsaccnt]

I watch every single thing they release because every single thing is entertaining in my opinion

[@rhiannoona]

I think puppet history still fits the "spooky" category. A lot of history is dark and macabre and that in itself feels right for the spooky banner

[@bryanhikes7248]

Facts!

[@Misstris1975]

I'll echo what a lot of folks are saying here: we love you guys. Not JUST the spooky stuff. I rewatch Too Many Spirits often and I also love Survival Mode, so I hope those stick around as well. You're my comfort TV and I hope to keep seeing you for years to come 💜💜

[@BriBri0218]

Shane “we’re not changing the world” can I just say, you’ve changed my world. Watching your content brings me so much joy and I hope you guys never stop posting

[@SultanaFerdous1]

Agreed. Whenever I get some free time, like an hour or so on most days, the Watcher channel is what I gravitate towards. The last 9 years watching Ryan and Shane's work has been fantastic, and I'm looking forward to more.

[@lokitrckstr]

I was bummed when they initially announced the plan to leave KZbin but understood the mindset. Was super happy when they switched and decided to stay on KZbin and continue with their new platform. I have nothing but love for Watcher

[@bakescakes]

I've been following Ryan and Shane since 2016 and I never doubted your intentions. I honestly will never understand the toxicity from the "fans." When I learned about the streamer, I couldn't imagine that it could be a good idea because I couldn't imagine a world in which you all could find a good amount of new fans without KZbin. People were upset and that is valid. You all made a bad business decision and you admitted that. But the toxicity/hatred/vitriol were all unwarranted. Just wanted you all to know that I've always been in your corner. Thank you for offering this conversation.

[@toualee1430]

I’m probably gonna be in the minority of this but I was never mad at your guy’s decision. People who are mad don’t understand how a business is ran. And yes, this is their business.

[@BLI777]

I agree completely.

[@katherinewade8298]

I second that !

[@katherinel3399]

Third!

[@monicagiangrosso3222]

Fourth!

[@maplebacon901]

LOL the second to last sentence, thanks for the laugh.

[@cz1754]

One bit of feedback I’ve seen regarding Ghost Files is that it would be super cool if there could be more focus on the history of the places again. Like Unsolved was pretty great because even though we know we won’t get solid ghost evidence, the stories and history still made each location super interesting, and I know many people feel like Ghost Files needs a bit more of that. If you’re doing more of it it would be so cool if that could be included again! Just a suggestion, still looking forward to future content 💛

[@JennyNYC1]

I am a fan of Shane and Ryan. I followed them since Buzzfeed and will continue to now through KZbin and Watcher. Through the podcast I have become a fan of Steven and appreciate how sensible, kind- hearted and meaningful he is. Because of him I became a fan of Travel Season and I can’t wait for more! However… the more you incorporate Steven the better (ie Survival Mode, Puppet History, Too Many Spirits, and ultimately GHOST FILES! 😁) can’t wait for more!

[@skinslip]

BRING BACK TRAVEL SEASON WITH STEVEN AND ANDREW!! AND MORE WEIRD WONDERFUL WORLD. Please.

[@bryanhikes7248]

This is from Steven's alt acct.😂

[@vickyou2238]

omg yes!! I hope that Andrew and Adam are still with Watcher and we get to see more of them soon

[@cassidythomson1803]

It makes me a little sad that they’re clearly still hanging onto and feeling bad about trying to support their company.

[@thecrowds209]

We all make mistakes. It's about learning from it. If they or you or anyone still feels bad about something that's fine, it proves your human. I still find it so hard to believe though, that with a patreon, multiple channels amassing HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of views (WATCHER ALONE has 460m+ views total) sponsors, tours, that you make the decision to completely pay wall your shows such as "Pay X$ to watch me travel and try fancy food you'll NEVER get to eat" is fucking ridiculous. Who is mismanaging funds at the top that you can't support a crew of what, sub 50? And if you have more than that, you're doing it wrong, you can't hire all your friends for the fuck of it, you can't hire all ex buzzfeed members because you feel bad. I still love them but I can't believe no one talked to even the people at Good Mythical Morning who they've worked with on how to do the whole extra cash model, because GMM does have on their own site a subscription for extra stuff.

[@scotthardie5141]

They tried to grow their creativity and make things better for their employees and still have people calling it a "mistake"

[@alyssaruiz_24]

@@thecrowds209these types of comments is what is causing them so much distress. Like you don’t owe them anything but you say you love them and then you hypothesize a mismanagement of finances that you don’t know anything about. Like just let it go.

[@jessw391]

@@thecrowds209did you even watch the video. It wasnt really a mistake. It was rooted in decisions based on the survival and growth of the company, and unfortunately most of the fanbase was not happy about it so they changed it back. It wasnt a mistake, it was more about finding a balance. So their balance is…free content…but cheap content, because they arent being funded as well as they were at buzzfeed

[@jessw391]

I wish they were funded properly. It makes me sad seeing them stressed when all they wanted was freedom to make whatever they wanted. I wonder if they could take advice from other channels like the try guys?

[@abbytremblay8650]

I’m so sorry you guys had to deal with any negativity at all. I can’t even imagine all the hard work that went into making Watcher and what you’ve created is truly great and special. I look forward to everything you guys do ❤️

[@kaitlynlynch96]

for what it’s worth, i followed ryan and shane over to watcher because i was a big fan of unsolved. i had never seen worth it, so i wasn’t very familiar with steven. but i have thoroughly enjoyed every bit of content you guys have released since launching, including steven’s food and cooking focused shows. i love the spooky and mystery content and am super pumped to have more of it, but i’m not sure it’s really necessary to make a new home for the other shows. the feeling i’ve gotten over the years is that most people are here to see your personalities and creativity and will gladly consume any content you guys choose to release 🙂

[@heytishbear]

If anything I hope you guys gave yourself grace - space to understand that we're all just human and we all tend to do things that will hurt people and cause some misunderstanding. I'm happy you guys still continued to provide content for us despite what happened, because I've been a fan since Buzzfeed and I'll always be a fan of Watcher. Personally, some insults during the whole thing were unnecessary, because I understood that you guys weren't being greedy - you all just needed a way to keep the business running, make sure everyone was paid, make sure their families were provided for, because at the end of the day, you guys were still running a business. Thank you guys and the everyone at Watcher for your hard work. Time to welcome new and amazing things for 2025 💪

[@emilybarker3240]

If it is any consolation I found you guys in April because of the controversy and checked out your content. I became such a fan that I was an early adopter to the streaming platform. While the apology is kind and appreciated you guys are honestly owed one too. The hate you guys received was beyond unnecessary. I never understood it especially when other KZbinrs are being accused of grooming and power imbalances. I am sorry you all were made to feel like bad people, it’s so hard being accused of intentions you never had. Some people make a difference by being doctors or scientist. You guys make art and comedy and the world needs that just as much.

[@KatieRaeRae]

well said!

[@ninarobinson2912]

I don’t think I realised how much I use this channel as a comfort blanket until I nearly lost it. During the ‘leaving KZbin’ video I didn’t even hear the positive news, it just hit me that I might not be able to have this content any more which was really upsetting. It sounds silly as really, it’s ‘just’ a series of shows but actually, over time it has become more than that. Thank you for your continued honestly and your fabulous content 🙏

[@fabricsoftenerteddybear8045]

100% my woobie show, too. I get you.

[@Chanceisafoodie]

I’m glad that I got the streaming service. I got the year subscription and it felt like nothing for all of the years of free entertainment I’ve gotten from these guys.

[@annawilkinson3835]

@@Chanceisafoodie It’s a really nice streamer too. I’m on a lot of wonky platforms, and I appreciate the effort that has gone into watcher’s.

[@fabricsoftenerteddybear8045]

Same here! I felt honored to be able to give something back to people who have honestly given me so much happiness.

[@katherinewade8298]

Same!

[@wiktoriatluvi]

I like the way it is now, those who want/can support them more get their content earlier and with bonus stuff, but they don’t lock themselves for a huge audience here

[@mamachelle5743]

Guys, there are a LOT of us that believe in and support you. As for myself and my teenager, we bought in- full year- right from the start. From BF days and into the Watcher era, we're fully on board. All the GF shows, Top5, AreYouScared?, and TooManySpirits are some of our favorite shows! Love all you do, fellas. Keep going. We love it!!

[@robtymec2045]

I think you guys deserve the award for "Best Fixing of a Bad Decision Made by a KZbinr". We all appreciate your humbleness and your desire to stay on track with what truly makes your Channel great. I've stuck with your videos because of this. Whereas I have unsubscribed to any number of other content-creators that have come under fire and handled it poorly.

[@ladyofloth]

The Watcher streaming service is actually my favorite user experience for streaming currently. I got the year membership in April in support of them and it’s been great! The lack of ads is so nice and has made watching all of their content (old and new) really great. I do think this conversation was needed and in a way that backlash seems to be something to be somewhat grateful for because it sounds like it’s been taken to heart and you’ve gotten to see what your fans truly want. And it’s just genuine, fun content that we enjoy watching and you enjoy creating. Because when you enjoy created the content it shines through in the final product. Thank you for everything you do!

[@sk84033]

More than happy to support you, please know there are so many of us out here who love Watcher. Your friendship and wacky antics have provided respite, which is needed now more than ever. Super excited to see what you create in the future and absolutely loving Ghost Files Alone!

[@anyalouisa]

you guys are making more of a difference in people’s lives than you know. the move to the streamer may have been a little messy but life is messy!!! i remember reading so many comments back in april and i couldn’t believe how unnecessarily cruel some people were being. you were given so little grace but still handled the situation so gracefully and if people are still holding on to pointless cruelty then it’s their problem. you listened to the valid concerns and made a move for the better. so proud to be a supporter of watcher and so excited for the next year ♥️

[@brieframe6746]

As someone in a very small company that does artistic and creative work, I have so much empathy for what you guys are going through. Like, I am not a financial wizard, an expert on regulations, an HR head, or anything else you need to run a business. I am a designer, a builder, a creator. But a business needs those other things, so if it's just you and one or two other people... someone's gotta do it, and it can bog you down. Life got so much better once we hired someone who wasn't A Creative to focus on operations and staffing, and we got to pull back and focus a little more on the things that bring us the most joy in our work. I hope you guys find your balance and the financial stability to keep doing what you do! A few months into the first lockdown of 2020, several friends pointed me toward Puppet History, so I decided to check it out and... well, Puppet History and everything else you guys do got me through the worst of the pandemic and beyond. Love and support you. Thank you!

[@kimimiism]

Honestly I am not sure if this will be the best choice. As a long time viewer for almost 8 years, I do love the spooky content - but one of the main reasons I enjoyed Watcher so much was to see you guys have a variety of shows, some obviously being passion projects, and I think a lot of viewers have the same feelings. While I get the choice business wise, it would most likely still make a lot of us happy to see a mix of shows with different focuses, as long as you guys enjoy making them

[@hollibryan370]

So proud of you guys for this. Was never mad at your decision but love you even more for this episode

[@charitychung7878]

I actually bought a year subscription to watcher TV because of all the backlash you guys got. It was ridiculous how angry everyone got, forgetting about how many years of laughs you guys gave us.

[@lizasaguin]

I love your comment! Soon, when my (& my Husband's) financial situation get better, I will for sure subscribe. I almost bought a subscription way back when they announced it but that would've held me back a bit, financially. The exchange rate sucks in my country lol

[@keshiagonzales-]

Same!!

[@bubbe4209]

Hey boys! This year was a little rough and I'm sorry it didn't go the way you guys planned. You are so special and have such a big place in my heart! Almost losing your content this year made me realize just how much your content is part of my days. I remember saying to my friend that it felt like I was broken up with lmao You apologized and fixed the mistake, we accepted the apology. All's good now. As much as you guys may have had a small issue with how the streamer was announced, the way some people reacted was way worse. I gotta say I appreciate Shane being the one to point out 1) how cheap Steven's new show was compared to GF and PH and 2) the affordability bit on the goodbye video, although said by Steven, was approved by ALL of them beforehand. The production value is part of what makes Watcher be Watcher and not something else. Plus, it's something that YOU want to do, so keep it up. While Unsolved was a huge part of my life and still holds a very dear place in my heart, I'd hate to see you guys getting stuck trying to recreate that. And honestly? It wouldn't work. Even if you guys try to recreate it now, with cheap cameras, sitting behind a desk, text on screen, and yadda yadda, the very people who talk about wanting Unsolved back would be the ones to find something to complain about the revamped Unsolved. BFU was/is what it was/is because it was done at that specific time by that specific version of Ryan and Shane. The times have changed, and you guys have also changed. No man steps in the same river etc etc etc. Keep producing stuff, keep adding new and different stuff. Keep doing cool sets and using cool equipment. Now, if I can be an ass and give an opinion that goes against what you guys are planning: I get the idea of wanting to separate spooky content from food content because it may confuse some people, or because some people care only about this or that show. But honestly, I don't think the contents need to be separate. This whole thing of "people won't understand what Watcher is about if they see a ghost hunting show and then a food travel show" makes no sense to me because Watcher has always been about whatever the three dorks that run it want it to be. Sometimes Watcher is about a weird blue puppet that teaches us about weird history stuff, sometimes it's about hunting ghosts, and sometimes the channel is about watching a sweet man having a mental breakdown over cooking a dish (BRING BACK DISH GRANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), sometimes it is about Shane unjustly declaring himself the people's lister even though Ryan is the REAL people's lister. How hard is it to understand that a channel has different subjects? Like???? Anyways, if you guys think it will work, I'll be there to support you. But I don't think it needs to be done. *IF* you guys think that doubling GF and MF seasons will work AND you want to do it, fine by me. Whatever you guys do, I'll be there too. But please, don't stop doing the "smaller" shows like Top 5, TMS, Survival Mode etc. They give me so much joy, and are a great company when I'm busy working. It was a rough year but nothing stays forever, even shitty stuff. 2025 is almost there and you will have more chances to do what you want to do and what needs to be done ♥

[@agrownupkid]

To the Watcher Team: I am so happy that you addressed "the incident". I am even happier knowing that you were able to digest the good criticism and discard the absolutely abhorrent filth that was being spewed towards you all. I felt so bad for all of you. I felt disgusted about the hate directed at Stephen. When you guys came out to London I hopped in line to talk on the mic. Unfortunately time ran out and I returned to my seat. What I wanted to say then is that you have a massive fanbase that loves all of the hard work that you all do. The television quality content should continue. Keep aspiring to be great creators. Do not lose that passion. Command the production space. Grow the business. I am sorry for all of the "fans" that turned to immature hate. 💕

[@sawyerdohman3491]

as someone who doesn’t have a lot of disposable income (as a choreographer and dance teacher in south dakota), i got a year’s subscription to the streamer when it went up, and i’d like to remind yall that your art/content is NOT something we’re entitled to as fans. it’s incredibly sweet that you all care sm, but know you’ve had ppl in ur corner all year!! proud of you boys.

[@karolinawww6834]

Yes, not entitled to, but remember they never worked on content for free. They were paid by Buzzfeed and Watcher gets money from views, advertising, deals, sponsors, etc. And KZbin gets money from our views too, attention and our data is how we pay, otherwise there would be no KZbin.

[@cherylbell327]

To Shane saying ‘it is but a spec in the grand scheme of things’ it is but it isn’t. I don’t think I could adequately express just how much Watcher and Puppet History, but all of the Watcher shows and team mean to me. Watcher shows are a very very huge part of my life and bring me so much joy. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. And thank you for listening to your community. I am forever grateful for you all every year. Much love and success to you all now and forever 💕

[@nahomyojeda9040]

I don’t know if it’s just me but please keep doing Are you Scared? Those little stories and you guys commenting on them just make my day!!! It’s that simple and yet entertaining

[@MissFanCulture]

The transparency and the humility of this episode is why I remained a fan. I stood by during all the backlash because I knew y’all would do the right thing and you did. Hardcore fans who want early or more access to your content can pay if they wish, but making sure the casual viewer such as myself can eventually have access as long as we have patience was the right play and I respect it. Happy holidays to the team at WATCHER - 2025 will be awesome

[@personx9040]

While you listen to your audience, do listen to the kind of content you want to make as well… because the audience would know if your hearts weren’t in it, and we love to watch you being yourselves and enjoying videos too

[@amyfarrelly4580]

Anyone who was upset about this are genuinely ridiculous...sending you all so much love ❤

[@cyndygomez8630]

I’ve been a silent follower for years… watcher is 100% my comfort channel. Whatever you post, I watch. Because YOU are what makes it. Businesses will always have mistakes, don’t ever think you hurt anyone. No one perfect. Your genuine love for your staff and audience is very clear. I’m happy you’re still here 🤎

[@emilywells1221]

I get that everyone got real butthurt about the paid stuff...I'm a business owner and though you may be doing things you love and you have fans or supporters, it doesn't mean you should continue to give it away for free, especially as you are running a business that costs MONEY. When something is free and becomes not as free, nobody likes it. Perhaps I'm in the minority but I was like...paid? WORTH EVERY PENNY. I hope you just keep the focus on continuing to do what you love, being yourselves and try to ignore noise from any haters. People support this because they love you and the dynamic...and in the end that's all that matters. KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON.

[@mothgirlz]

but they weren't just giving it away for free, the only reason they were able to make it here is through the ad watching from youtube viewers and youtube premium users. do they deserve to be paid for their work? of course and they were!

[@knorman717]

Hopefully this helps with any shame you may be feeling: everybody messes up, but not everybody humbly owns their stuff and makes it right. You guys have my respect for it. Thank you for being willing to do it publicly-you’ve set an example for others to follow, whether they’re KZbinrs or not.

[@cristianherrera8564]

As a long-time fan of yours, I’ve come to realize that my true admiration lies in the trio of you. While the content is commendable, it’s your genuine presence and camaraderie that truly captivate me. Whether it’s a spooky or lighthearted segment, I relish the opportunity to witness you all being yourselves. Your humor and interactions bring a smile to my face and make every video an enjoyable experience.

[@dennissdigitaldump8619]

Honestly when someone makes a mistake, admits it and apologizes with solutions, they've earned MORE of my trust. Who doesn't F up, especially when it comes to money?

[@krihunt08]

This whole conversation was so damn lovely. The introspection, the honesty, the awareness.

[@rachelelizabeth4921]

Thank you for having this conversation. I am just one viewer, but I’ve been here for a very long time. I was upset and disappointed about what happened in April, but I have forgiven you all and I hope you have forgiven yourselves. It’s clear you were doing what you thought was best for the company and nobody can fault you for that.

[@charlescervas7860]

I dont really comment but I believe in you guys... The day you guys put up a pay wall... I was probably the 1st one to purchase a year sub. You guys helped out during my darkest times.. so thank you

[@KamenRiderCorn]

To echo a sentiment I saw already, I personally don't care if the content is spooky. I just like watching you guys interact with whatever you find interesting.

[@yaxofossiad]

I am a poor person, when the announcement was made, i was happy for you guys and very surprised at the outrage. If felt like a natural next step to me and I thought it was an affordable price point, especially after all the years of FREE entertainment, i was happy to pay it. Clearly, everyone didn't agree, I'm happy y'all took it on the chin and reworked it to make your audience happy. Your humility has confirmed everything i thought i knew about your personalities, good on you

[@mothgirlz]

the thing is, they were able to do all this because we watched on youtube. they made money from our views and ad watching, so leaving youtube and preventing so many people from accessing their content was a terrible idea and I'm glad they were able to fix it right away.

[@taylorwilliams9765]

While I love ghostfiles, puppet history, and mysteryfiles. I really enjoyed Steven's cooking videos posted in the beginning of watcher. It was fun to see what he would create next. Do what you guys enjoy.

[@solley5160]

I listened to your show today and while I almost never comment on anything I watch I felt compelled to do so today. I do not think that there is anything wrong with charging people to have access to your content. I understand that not everyone has money to throw around but I also understand that you should be paid for your time, energy and creativity. You aren’t responsible for someone else recreation. That is my 2 cents. I have been watching you guys since buzz feed days and I like most of the stuff you guys do so I would likely pay for the content if I had to. $6 is a cup of coffee…Plus I suspect that you would have the money to do more if you did have a subscription base.

[@angelicazbp]

@@solley5160 100% agree. I don't have Netflix or Disney+, but I do have WatcherTV. For me, it's about priorities and where you want your money to go. It's the same reason that id rather buy less books but have them all come from local bookstores than get more for cheaper on amazon.

[@wiktoriatluvi]

yeah, though before and now they still get money from ads and sponsors (so they are not not making anything rn, maybe just less straightforward/stable in this way) we kind of pay by watching those ads and sponsorships (I know it’s obv not the same, but nothing is truly free, we pay with our time and/or data all the time)

[@wiktoriatluvi]

Also, 6$ can easily be a whole bag of coffee beans in other places in the world That was one of the topics discussed then, they have an international audience and also an audience that is very diverse in their wealth

[@solley5160]

@ ya I get what you are saying but once again, no one is responsible for someone else’s entertainment. Maybe they would like to be a bit more successful and maybe they would like to have some financial stability and maybe they would be able to provide even more content if they were able to have a solid base. Truth be told, they might have to stop following their dream one day because they were just trying to make other people happy. That would suck!

[@Joyboy9891]

I appreciate you guys, making this video, it shows you really own your actions and care about the audience

[@peachesandpears4237]

I fully see the logic in switching to a streaming site. If people really love it and don’t want to be without it, then they can pay the $6. If not, then they don’t have to subscribe. As a freelancer myself, I don’t think it’s outlandish to want to be paid for something you create for others.

[@molliefranklin4882]

When Shane said "we aren't changing the world" 🥺 you guys change all of our worlds! You bring us so much joy and happiness! Thank you for staying on KZbin ❤

[@hijibaka]

sad to hear that stevens food content has to move off the main channel because of the backlash. shows like homemade and dish granted were some of the most unique and creative projects watcher has produced, and they really stood out. it’s clear y’all have always been passionate about trying new things and exploring creative ventures, so it’s disheartening to see those efforts constrained due to some fans reacting negatively. i can only imagine how challenging it must be to balance your goals with external pressures like youtubes algorithm and ad compatibility, especially when those things might not fully align with your values or vision. as someone in my 30s, whose fav show was the dnd show from almost 5 years ago (lmao rip sddnd), i realize my preferences might not align with your current audience anymore, if they ever did. the rizzo and gonzo dynamic between ryan and shane is great and all, but i really enjoy podwatcher because it features all three of you-plus a bonus matt! maybe steven and/or matt could join a “ghost” hunt in the future or something? that said, i sincerely hope this decision doesn’t limit your creativity or your ambition to explore new ventures, and i’ll continue watching and cheering you on ♥

[@bethangisborne930]

So, so proud of you three. I absolutely love you all so much and I will support any content you put out and will continue to support you in the future. You’ve handled this tough subject so well. Thank you for all your hard work and content that makes my world a brighter place for sure. I cannot wait for all future Watcher content. Please never let anyone stop your creativity and prevent you from making shows you feel passionately about.

[@katywynter6419]

I literally don't understand anyone being upset and I don't understand why they keep apologizing in the first place ? You have a business or are trying to make a business and that requires funds and it's totally reasonable to look into a streaming platform especially considering your goal of tv level producing it makes the most sense. The best thing was leaving the option for people to watch the free content on KZbin with ads or if you have the ability to more directly support your channel/content, sign up for the streaming platform and receive exclusive content.

[@LindaC616]

Yes, but that wasn't the initial plan, and that's what people are still wary of

[@ryanbontrager5700]

Did you forget that they were literally severing ties from their entire community that wasn't willing to jump behind a pay wall with them and immediately backpeddled when they saw how (rightfully) upset everyone was? It's one thing for a production company to set financial terms through their consumers in order to expand and create the type of content they are striving to do, but how they went about it wasn't very considerate to their community that has stood by them this entire time. You know, the people that they owe their literal careers in this business to who were basically getting tossed aside to make room for the people that would cough up more money? They also wanted to act like they were trying to maintain a quality status that "their fan base has come to expect and enjoy from them" like they werent originally two guys with crap flashlights and cameras yelling at ghosts in abandoned buildings. It just came off as very nsincere on their end. So people very much have a right to have been upset with them.

[@katywynter6419]

@lindaC616 True, but as soon as the public addressed their worries and feelings about that they changed it to include keeping KZbin and continuing to post. In my opinion it should have all stopped there.

[@katywynter6419]

@ryanbontrager5700 I'm not saying people don't have a right to be upset, I just didn't understand why people were/are upset. I guess I understand that them saying "well thanks for the support and maybe we'll see you again on the platform" and like you said cutting ties with their community would elicit such a reaction. I just didn't view their message that way I guess.

[@SevHighwind86]

​@@ryanbontrager5700I agree with everything you just said! As someone else commented here I was shocked they didn't utilize their Patreon to see if people would have been interested in them moving to a streaming platform.

[@vincentamarone]

Not sure if you guys will ever even see this… but I just wanna say that I have forever love for you guys and all the hard workers at Watcher. I saw everything go down in real-time. It’s been rough as a fan of yours to watch you all have to go thru this. I know people feel they have justification to be angry/upset with you. I know you empathize with them. But I just wanted to say that I have been a long-time fan of your content, of the personal sides of yourselves that you allow the public to see, and I hope to continue watching your creations and entertainment for years to come. Here’s to 2025! 🎉

[@elizabethjones8897]

I never comment on videos but I wanted to say something because it seems like often people who are the most upset are the loudest. I wanted to offer some balance, even if it’s way late. I’m also an artist so I understand struggling to make things in a system that doesn’t value art in the same way it values other services we enjoy. I think it’s positive that the outrage led to finding a way to be more inclusive; at the same time, folks responding to your decision about how to sustain your business with such cruelty and entitlement was absurd. I can understand feeling upset and asking for something different or offering solutions. I find it disrespectful to speak to someone whose work I admire as though they owe it to me. I understand the emotion behind it. We’re human so we all feel entitled to things we are not owed, but we can choose how to respond to the anger or sadness or sense of betrayal that comes up… I hope that people deciding to respond by attacking and shaming doesn’t prevent y’all from making decisions that will support your art going forward. I love what y’all have created and I look forward to seeing more.

[@oriannalynn]

I am so glad you guys are still here with us. Thank you for being so honest and responsible with your decisions.. the real ones will always stay, i love you guys so much

[@CrazyEivis]

Thank you guys for making this video, as difficult as it must have been to do so. The transparency is much appreciated! I can definitely understand the original decision that was made, but the decision made after the feedback made sense, too. I still decided to subscribe to Watcher TV when it became available because I enjoy your content so much and wanted to help ensure you guys can continue to make the content you like to make. Also, I would just like to say that, as a huge fan of the spooky content, sometimes I'm in the mood for something not spooky and I hope you guys still continue to make the non-spooky shows you enjoy making and that I and others enjoy watching, such as Puppet History, Weird Wonderful World, Food Files, Travel Season, Top 5 Beatdown, etc. Maybe just under a different category in the streamer? I'm fine with that, but I know others may not be. Love you guys! Thank you so much for all that you do and I hope I can keep watching your content for many more years to come! P.S. Ryan, that first episode of Ghost Files: Alone was amazing and I'm really looking forward to episode 2 on Friday!

[@tinamomma7017]

Guys let yourselves off the hook. You have given so much joy and that is priceless. You have special gifts and a pure intention to share them. Thank you ❤

[@aoifacreates]

I’m sure many in the comments will agree with me…… I fu*king LOVE you guys! So genuine and it’s clear you love what you do and care about the fans!

[@juleslazio423]

I want to thank Steven, Shane, and Ryan as well as the entire Watcher crew for all that you do! Watcher has been a staple of my life since its inception, and even before during the Buzzfeed days. The work all of you do does not go unnoticed or unappreciated, and as a matter of fact is such a comfort for my anxiety and I rewatch Watcher content all the time. It's clear this has been a difficult year for all of you but I and so many others are very grateful for you! I am so happy to be able to support you and your streamer as thanks for what you give me and everyone else. Here's to another year of Watcher and I can't to enjoy all that you have planned! I hope all of you get well-deserved breaks and time with your loved ones this holiday season :)

[@BixbyTheMartian]

Hey, I actually was one of those people who was really hurt by the initial goodbye youtbue video. I am disabled, I don't have much money, and it felt like I was losing something I really had come to enjoy. with your follow apology, that was enough to get me stick around, but it did make me feel a bit more cynical about the whole thing. and I've only recently started going back and watching some of the stuff I missed, because I finally had sort of gotten past that initial cynicism. I absolutely understood that you needed to pay your staff, but it was hard to get past the tone deafness of your initial video. I really appreciate this video. I appreciate that you still view it as a mistake, you're not defensive, that you're forthright about that. I don't know, this helps answer some of the questions I still had, and fix some of the cynical viewpoint I'd taken.

[@JaimeWhineHaus-jx6si]

One thing that soured it for me was the attitude that those who could not follow you to the new platform were just cheap and disloyal. Someone quoted Sarah's Tumblr with something like: " people don't want to pay for anything". People were already paying, for KZbin, and sitting through the ads to give all the views and support, so to be talked down to and belittled because we couldn't budget one more platform, was distasteful.

[@SultanaFerdous1]

Agreed. The broadband internet connection is not free. Viewers' Watch Time is not free. Viewers' engagement is not free. We watch the ads (both embedded / sponsored ads and KZbin ads) before, between or at the end of each video too. So, the financial sponsorship must shift to advertiser companies instead of viewers for Watcher Entertainment.

[@SunflowerLilly12-34]

I have been watching you guys since the buzzfeed days and that will not change. You guys are truly amazing and the hard work you put into your videos deserves to be recognized and rewarded. Every artist and creator should be compensated fairly for their talent and effort. It’s unfortunate that some people, caught up in their emotions, may not have shown the appreciation you deserve, but know that many of us recognize and value what you do. Personally, I’m not just here for Spookie-I love the variety you bring to the channel, and that versatility is what makes your content so special. Keep being creative and exploring new ideas, and don’t let negativity limit your creativity. I'm excited to continue supporting everything you do! Also LOVE Puppet History :)

[@jospodigeeves]

Please do not just turn your channel to "spooky". We love what you create. I personally love your short comedy video WAAAAAAY more than ghosts. So, we love food shows, www, puppet history. It hurts to see how much you are trying to fit in new conditions, but we are really appreciate all of your content. We are proud of you. Dont be so harsh on yourselves.

[@chez__]

good thing i listened to the end because my comment was gonna be about the food content. dish granted is what introduced me to watcher and i miss seeing steven in the kitchen, so looking forward to the new channel

[@bialazielarka]

I comment very rarely on anything, but just want to say that I am proud of you for making this video and very happy to hear your thoughts and experiences on the matter. Back in the april I was so scared for you and the company's future, and enraged at the community for some incredibly harsh and unreasonable words. I was happy that you took the feedback and managed to kept going but I've been constantly kinda apprehensive if one day I start a video and hear that you're shutting watcher down. So this conversation made me release a huge sigh of relief and I gained much hope for the future. Tbh I like all your content and am thankful for how many different shows and various kinds of knowledge you introduced me to. I came from buzzfeed for spooky content but I watched every single video you ever put up, including patreon stuff. I've never been into food content until I watched Steven's videos on watcher and loved it all. So I'd be happy if the channel stayed as is, without the need to subscribe to all other places (already following watcher, watcher podcasts, fya, and streamer). But I'm fine either way, especially if everything other than podcasts will be on streamer so there'll be a centralized place for all various shows. I love all the spooky content, puppet history, weird wonderful, 5 top beat downs, I hope they all stay! I also sometimes wish for Steven's shows to come back (dish granted my wholesome and funny beloved, i miss you). Anyway, thank you for giving me a way to unwind after stressful days throughout part of my high school, the exhausting uni years, and now a few years of being a working adult. The pandemic was especially tough, but all the various new types of content that watcher introduced to me was soothing for my soul. I've been a fan for idek how many years, I was incredibly happy when you announced watcher where you could be on your own terms, I joined the patreon in the first months after the launch and then migrated to streamer. I hope to see you successful and satisfied! You're kind and open people and I love to see you maintain a warm space for like-minded creators while putting such good stuff for the world to enjoy. I love you all, you and the whole crew. Sending warm hugs from Poland

[@oliviacallaway-testerman2568]

I think the fact that you guys are here talking about this again, in such an open and honest way, so long after the fact just shows how much integrity you all have. I really hope that you guys didn't take some of the more hurtful comments to heart. They certainly got out of hand. You guys are great and I really appreciate the content you make and I'm always looking forward to more!❤

[@austyn-s5f]

PLEASE DO NOT STOP, THIS IS A BUMP IN A VERY LONG AND FRUITFUL JOURNEY. YOU GUYS DO GREAT WORK. ALSO PLEASE I NEED PUPPET HISTORY

[@WiseManoftheSea]

Coming from someone who tries to make money being a filmmaker, it made total sense to go the way of creating a streaming service. I get going from free to paid would be a bummer, but I am someone who enjoys quality as well, and quality takes money. KZbin doesn't pay the bills, so for you to seek other ways to keep making this show is nothing to be sorry about. People just need to understand that things cost.

[@meganelkins5578]

I absolutely love you guys! I gave birth to my little girl in June . I was only 26 weeks pregnant and she was 1 pound 15 oz. Your shows helped me make it through those long NICU days. I hope to someday be able to afford your streaming services after all of the hospital bills are paid. 😂 keep the content coming!

[@alyssaruiz_24]

I discovered you guys this year, this first year my husband went to work in the office and I was put onto disability after graduating college and losing my career. I had never been more alone in my life and I get you guys don’t know me but you helped me through it So thank you. I’m sorry you had such a hard time with this transition. I’m glad to be a subscriber now, granted it took me a minute to sign up. I want to see you guys succeed ultimately, and think you all deserve abundant lives just like everyone else. I wish Watcher the best, I will be here the whole way growing pains and all. Can’t wait for the new year of content.

[@lsmithmjs]

we've been here since the beginning. everyone makes mistakes. we'll still be here tomorrow because we come to see YOU guys!!

[@mikal]

Puppet History is the greatest show on the internet. Even if the other shows have to be canceled, Puppet History should NEVER end. It is *THE* show that people associate with you now.

[@AshleyRae8708]

Love love LOVE, ghost files, mystery files, puppet history, are you scared is AMAZING!! and the trip to Korea you did Steven was sooo fun to watch!! Thank you guys for caring and listening to us! That's why we stay ❤ so excited for the new year and all the spooky content! Also too many spirits is EVERYTHING! please don't get rid of that 🫶🙏🙏 we love you guys. My 2 kids and I came to Cincinnati for the live show and it's a core memory for us all! Thank you all for everything you do! WE LOVE YOU GOOBERS!! ❤️ 😍 💖

[@mialikeseverything]

Honestly I love all the shows Watcher has ever released, but Too Many Spirits and Weird Wonderful World are my absolute comfort shows you guys upload. Puppet History has a special place in my heart as well. I'm glad we got to hear more about why the decision was made and how you all felt about it. I hope you find ways to continue making the shows that both you at Watcher and the audience love. I won't pretend to have knowledge about the finances behind entertainment, so all I'll say is this: I hope everyone that works at Watcher (hi Simone!) gets to stay there and is able to be paid what they're worth even though the streaming service hasn't been the saving force you might've hoped for. I know it certainly doesn't help that a number of the companies willing to pay for ads from KZbin channels happen to be shady, have bad business practices etc and the comments end up being disappointed at the posters for being seen to support those companies. Even where they don't have many other choices for ads or income in general, since so many people can't afford to support a Patreon or join another streaming service that doesn't have the variety other streaming services do. I was really put off by the original decision, but really appreciated how it was handled afterwards. I hope you get to stay on KZbin. PS: Matt you are a perfect counter-point to the founder trio for the podcast, we love you!

[@SultanaFerdous1]

Please bring back Tourist Trapped. It's an incredible show. The fact that Ryan and Shane separately edited their parts and yet their work looked so similar was an awesome aspect in the Tourist Trapped: LA episode.

[@legndery]

The number of times they said "Free content" is insane though. I mean, you are sponsored for the episodes, plus your videos are always family friendly so less chance of that yellow dollar sign.