11-Year-Old Girl Survives Home Invasion by Four Disturbed Offenders | Kimberly Cates Case Analysis

[@yikesyikes5974]

I know someone like Steven. He was adopted into a good family. No matter how much the family loved him and supported him, he continued to self destruct.

[@SmolTrailer]

I've seen it too. Luckily the kid that I'm thinking of, his older brother is in prison now (both adopted) and he's on ADHD medicine and it's been night and day how his behaviors have changed. He once told a group of friends that he used to chant violent death metal songs at 2 in the morning to scare his adopted parents. But once his brother went to jail, I'm telling you, everything about him improved. He used to take pride in being the most revolting of his friends, but now he's actually trying to be nice and trying to fit in. (He's 15) Obviously I hope it's not some nefarious plot on his end to find a victim, right now I'm just crossing my fingers that his sudden upgrade is real.

[@brookiegremlin6660]

genes matter:/

[@carriemindplsable]

I'm going to say a thing you are not supposed to say. Many adopted kids never really bond to their adopted families and have personality disorders they most likey inherited.

[@TheOldandslow]

​@carriemindplsable not to mention the ptsd from baby hood from whatever happened to them that early. If the first nurture is bad info... nature is all they've got

[@carriemindplsable]

@@TheOldandslow true. that affects them too.

[@45kimmyb]

Wow. Glad to see that you did this case. As A former corrections officer, I dealt with Christopher Gribble on a daily basis. He's a really strange guy to put it mildly.

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating how long it will be until Dr Grande reaches 1.5 million subscribers.

[@controversial123]

I’ve been here since 200k! I can’t believe it and am so proud of his success

[@themonstersmummy]

Here from the start 🤘

[@abcdaphne]

He made it!

[@GigiRulesTheRoost]

I cannot even imagine being the parents of any of these young men.

[@maxshea1829]

It's probably a circle of finger-pointing and blame.

[@bornrich9589]

When ideologists deny mentally ill people correct status and help - but instead treat them as if they are same as others.

[@bthomson]

The victims often disappear from the stories. Only the judge really seemed to remember.

[@bjkarana]

Here in the comments too; I'm just glad the Judge didn't shift blame away from the perpetrators.

[@FilmArtPhoto]

Since the title of the video refers to the 11 year old victim, I am very interested to know what became of her and how she is doing now. It's hard to comprehend how people can be so deeply evil to cause such harm... to total strangers, yet!

[@juliedurden9479]

I’m very curious too

[@chris-in-oceania]

She still had her father. I imagine he and she are rebuilding their lives elsewhere. My reaction to this is to say - no - leave the girl alone, just "send" her your wishes for her to find health and peace.

[@marybell2002]

There was a video of her 10 years later at 21 and she seemed to be doing great!

[@Xojessicarose215]

she's doing well

[@yayakelley7771]

This is so weird because last week, in my area of Michigan, a 11 yo girl was the stabbing victim of a home invasion. She survived but required surgery. The perp was a military recruiter who had planned on taking out the entire family and doing the unthinkable to the little girl. It’s still somewhat of a breaking story but that might be another one you might want to cover.

[@daviegriffin3539]

😳 *damn...* 💔

[@BobbiGail]

So much going wrong here... 😢horrible

[@alainpreveaux2428]

The perps name is Ricardo Castillo-- one of the high caliber young men allowed to infiltrate our "borders".

[@red_five3325]

Why did he target that family specifically?

[@rootfish2671]

@@red_five3325sounds like he wanted the little girl

[@jkjives1786]

When two of the characters are introduced in orange prison jumpsuits, the story can only go downhill from there.

[@Picsio64]

Dateline used to do that until we caught on. Then they started interviewing the perps in regular clothes to hide the spoiler. Dr. G should get photo swap software to eliminate the orange so we can stay in suspense.

[@jkjives1786]

@@Picsio64 Great idea. His videos are getting somewhat predictable. Of course the dry humor keeps me coming back. No dry humor in this one, though. Way too sad for that.

[@Picsio64]

@@jkjives1786 I think you missed the part about the guy wanting to go to Canada. Dr. G dropped some dry humor there about our northern neighbors.

[@jkjives1786]

@@Picsio64 Good point! I forgot about that!

[@tonyd4264]

A modern day Clockwork Orange

[@RR-bd4jp]

@@HunkumSpunkumThat movie was too brutal even for me

[@cebruthius]

Fancy a bit of the old ultra-violence?

[@erinjk123]

Seems more violent than clockwork orange. Machete psychopath in this one.

[@BeatlesCentricUniverse]

​@@cebruthiusIt's like...against society!

[@christiandulaney1638]

I did my senior English thesis (highschool) on Anthony Burgess. He had some great novels. A Clockwork Orange is at the top of that list

[@lorirausch3326]

Poor Jaimie…how traumatic.

[@janetleemarino8702]

I remember this case and the crimes committed. I lived in a town nearby named Francestown. I remember residences of Mont Vernon being very upset not only for what they did, but bc teachers were coming forward to visit and tutor the murderer's to help them with their school work, so they could graduate. Tells ya where some people's priorities were. Little Jaimie wasn't offered the same benefit of teacher-volunteers for her education, while recuperating in the hospital. There was a lot of talk that the teachers and principal of the boy's school, knew these boys were big trouble and did nothing about them.

[@animalantics5898]

I live near Keene. I remember when this happened and how scary it wss that such a violent event occurred so close to home. I remember. The debacle to have their pictures withheld from. the yearbook.

[@Swansong321]

This is my WORSE nightmare.. burglaries used to take place when people were out...absolutely terrifying that this happens...just awful

[@garrysekelli6776]

Usually if a robbery occurs while no one is home it is classified as a burglary. If persons are inside during the burglary then it gets classified as a robbery.

[@sillycookie1982]

We were asleep when a man up the st broke in and stole our beta max in 85.

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

Me too, it's utterly horrifying. I came home to a burglarized house once. I'd much rather my house be the target of a burglary than a home invasion. Burglars wait for the occupants to leave. They want to get in and out when no one is at home. Home invaders want to terrorize people (sometimes with murder on their mind). We had a senseless case of a home invasion in Toronto, Canada a few years ago. The home owner was a man in his 80s. The invaders tied him up, then they beat him and robbed him. They could have easily skipped the beating, but they seem to get off on it.

[@vensheaalara]

Worse than what? Or do you mean "worst"?

[@ClionnDion]

@@garrysekelli6776in my state burglary is entering illegally with the intent to commit a crime within. Like you said robbery is actively taking something from someone in person

[@steveeuphrates-river7342]

I feel sorry for parents who try their best to reform an absolute monster

[@colleenregan9130]

We live 20 minutes from there. This case is the reason I started locking my doors night and day. I think of this family all the time….

[@holidayarmadillo8653]

Being born with drugs in your system as a newborn is insane. I’m not someone who necessary believes people are destined to grow up and become a certain thing based on their genetics, I’m sure most of us understand how much of a factor environment will play. However, the fact that this young man had to receive such a distorted and toxic start to his life must’ve factored in, at least somewhat, into the atrocities he later committed. This is a crime that was partially born of the two people who didn’t care for the child they had chosen to create.

[@bjkarana]

There's no evidence to suggest that his lack of prenatal care had _anything_ to do with his actions as a young man; he wasn't raised by his biological parents. I'm adopted myself, so I find these blame shifting comments to be rather absurd.

[@itchysheets1222]

@@bjkaranaI think there’s a huge chance the child will have problems, but maybe not just a chance of being violent. They could have other mental problems, severe depression or other imbalances, physical problems or deformities….even the mother being under great stress alone while pregnant is thought to cause lifelong problems for the child. And I don’t think it has anything to do with the child being adopted, it’s about adverse childhood events related to drug use, maybe happening even before birth. Bc people don’t use drugs when they are happy and whole, lots of things come along with that too, mental health problems, physical violence, poverty, sex work, physical health problems, chronic pain, neglect of the self, etc etc

[@robertsmith4129]

I had a friend in school whose mother did not want him. She put him in a dumpster and set it on fire. His face was severely disfigured and he had to undergo many painful surgeries. I never heard him complain. It’s unfortunate that the life of an infant would be seriously harmed by the actions of his parents.

[@yarnpower]

@@bjkaranait wasn’t just lack of prenatal care which refers to good nutrition and doctor visits, he was born with serious drugs in his system, which could have led to brain development abnormalities.

[@nanettevantriesteharder2469]

@@itchysheets1222 I wish there was a "like" multiplier option for comments like this one.

[@brick6347]

My heart goes out to that little girl. And to Spader's adoptive parents too; they seem like decent people who genuinely tried to help. Sadly, they were given a severely damaged child, and I guess there's no fixing some people, which is a depressing thought. Maybe in the future, we can catch these people before they do something heinous, and if they can't be helped, we should try and keep them away from society (but obviously not jail if they've done nothing criminal). Damn, that's a tough one, isn't it? It goes against everything I believe to lock up innocent people, but on the other hand having a ticking timebomb wandering around isn't good either.

[@josepha.spadaro7881]

the road to hell is paved with good intentions ...

[@brick6347]

​@@josepha.spadaro7881this is indeed true. Kobayashi Maru

[@zenawarrior7442]

This is very disturbing, proves some people are beyond help & nothing to do with upbringing. Great points as always. Thanks Dr G😊💙💜

[@spazmonkey3815]

Genetics, brain development with drugs in the system. My daughter wants to adopt and I am quite concerned. Two different family members adopted girls and out of the four girls three turned out very damaged. Both sets of girls were adopted almost from birth. That was maybe 30 years ago. Society is not getting any healthier.

[@audreycasassa1683]

God Bless this little girl and her Father💔

[@maxshea1829]

My family lived in Mont Vernon until 1983. It's my hometown. I still knew families that lived there when this terrible crime happened. Mont Vernon is a picturesque NH village. Everybody said, "Here? It couldn't happen here!" Unfortunately, it was just a matter of time. Now this Clockwork Orange murder is what my town is famous for. Also, Trow rhymes with cow. The Trow family goes back to colonial times in Mont Vernon.

[@valkyriehutton4556]

So many children who are put up for adoption seem to grow up with their bio parents traits and are not affected by their adoptive parent's positive upbringing.

[@nanettevantriesteharder2469]

Epigenetics is the study of changes in organisms caused by modification of gene expression rather than alteration of the genetic code itself. Exposure to concentrated toxins as a consequence of uptake from the local environment during critical growth periods of the human developmental life span from womb to tomb, which are more continuous the closer to conception they are. A study of Agouti mice at Harvard University found that nutritional deprivation changed the color of their fur from brown to yellow and that biological offspring of a nurturing mother or adoptive mother was learned and passed on to future generations.

[@carriemindplsable]

I have noticed that too. Nature is the heavyweight champion of the nature vs, nurture debate.

[@nanettevantriesteharder2469]

@@carriemindplsable Genetically, all living human beings differ from each other by .1%. Most genetic mutations do not survive the womb. On the other hand, epigenetic changes occur almost continuously through critical growth periods. It is how living people develop and learn things.

[@AntimatterBeam8954]

Reactive attachment disorder sometimes influences the reaction in the child

[@alfredalbert2970]

Epigenetics aren’t inherited though

[@csgarage3682]

I am already profoundly disapointed with humanity, so watching Dr Grande's videos just reinforce that feeling.

[@reneegardner2286]

Right 🫠

[@MrNa]

Humans cannot be fixed.

[@DavidDeeble]

I know many will differ but to think that this murderous psychopath will spend the rest of his life in a place he finds so hospitable to be a powerful argument for the death penalty.

[@cosmickate3]

You crack me up Lou. Your dry delivery is priceless.

[@autisticlybrē]

This case was so disturbing

[@EM-tx3ly]

Reminds me of a Setagaya case in Japan where a Japanese family of four got killed by one killer in 2000 leaving DNA evidence but for 24 years no leads no suspects no breakthroughs as the killer had no database in Japan to be identified and was of mixed ancestry with sand residues located from an airbase in US

[@sansnom508]

Yes, we Canadians still live in igloos, we get around by dogsled and eat nothing but maple syrup, beaver tails*, and poutine 🤣 * If you know, you know.

[@carrington2949]

Sounds like you are able to stay in great shape.

[@maxshea1829]

Those two inmates in North Country NY, Matt and Swett, who escaped from prison about ten years ago, had designs on running to Canada. International border is the dumbest place an escapee can run. It's not like the old days. Even at rural crossings. The Canadian cops would just grab them hand them right back. Neither man made it as far as the border before bang-bang time with the police.

[@michaelperez9966]

@sansnom508 You guys have awesome tuxedos!

[@pocho689]

As a Canadian I agree. I do need new snow shoes as mine broke when running from a polar bear.

[@jimmynix5399]

@@pocho689- Imposter! Canadians don’t run from polar bears.

[@carolynsilvers9999]

It's overwhelming to learn such young individuals can be so horrifically cruel.

[@garrysekelli6776]

7:00 I got it. If the judge had said that "infinity is enough" then he would be mathematically correct.

[@holidayarmadillo8653]

Yes! 👏

[@johnfox9169]

The horrible "fate "that befalls some people, perpetrators and victims. So much sorrow emanates from some criminally disturbed individuals 😢

[@kimmyfreak200]

i liked the stare down the prosecutor gave steven during trial when he asked the medical examiner if Kimberly was alive for every single injury.... it was like 10 seconds.....looked him right in the eye...

[@JefftheSabaDude]

I was adopted as was my cousin's wife. My sister worked in adoptions her whole life and I've never heard a story like this about one of her clients although I would expect her to maintain confidentiality about any case that made the news. I still have to believe that it's a small minority of adoptions that end up like this. Someone must have done the studies and published the statistics by now. I'm just contemplating that if being unwanted or drug addicted at birth will cause a surge in this type of behavior in 15-20 years as all the unwanted babies being born now due to religious politics controlling women's reproductive decisions enter into their hormone infused teen years? I have had great relationship with my birth mother and her family for the last 30 years as my adoptive parents had died by then so there was no social conflict upon discovering them.

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Why do those without empathy think killing another person will allow them to feel something?

[@brightballoon]

Bc since they don't have empathy, they feel a thrill from killing. Was your question rehtorical?

[@carnifaxx]

maybe it's a sort of magical thinking...

[@robotx9285]

Because they're curious. And that curiosity isn't tempered by inate empathy.

[@reneegardner2286]

I think more often they're just curious to know how it feels.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

They are idiots.

[@Flamsterette]

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[@carrington2949]

This was a reoccurring nightmare I had as a child.

[@reneegardner2286]

Me as well but I woke up before they got there kinda

[@mirandamatthews2331]

I grew up in Mont Vernon. This murder shook everyone. Every road seems like it's in the middle of nowhere. We felt safe on our dirt roads. Felonious crime was not a thing. Heck, we never locked our house- my brothers and I never had keys. The keys to our cars sat on the console. What's the point of this? Just that the town never knew horror 14:40 like this could hit them. It's never been the same. It'll never be the same since evil touched it.

[@yogalayne]

This is the story of nightmares. I feel badly the husband was away on travel. Those two had no chance. The 11 year old will need serious therapy.

[@chadlucier]

I have heard a lot of true crime stories. The facts of this case are truly horrifying and have kept me up at night worrying about my own family.

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

Steven is obviously mentally imbalanced. But especially since he doesn't have remorse for killing Kimberly, just remorse for not making certain Jamie was dead - so that she wouldn't have to live with what happened. I guess that's his form of compassion. Knowing the murder didn't give him a thrill and that it didn't bring him happiness, if he could go back him time he would still kill Kimberly, and ALSO kill Jamie. His mind must be a very twisted place to live.

[@mgmarrow]

It was Christopher who stated this, not Steven. There's a lot of information in this event, hard to keep straight. I just wanted to clarify, no insult intended whatsoever. ❤

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

@@mgmarrow - No insult taken! Thanks for setting that straight. :)

[@mjengel84]

I always find it interesting when judges render a life sentence or a number of years that should effectively extend beyond the convicted’s feasible life. They never seem to acknowledge that some other individuals at some later time will be convinced by “experts” that the guilty is now rehabilitated, fixed, or cured… to often, tragic results.

[@tdesq.2463]

Doesn't matter unless the original sentencing order provides for the possibility of parole. Barring that, release would require a Pardon by the Governor. Not happening here. Not a chance ... at least, I hope not.

[@Robin-xt7yo]

I recall how scary this was. Rural New Hampshire doesn't get much violent crimes.

[@RullVox]

Steven was the mastermind. Ever since I started watching true-crime shows 30 yeas ago, I knew that the word [mastermind] had reached a new low.

[@veritypickle8471]

The "In a case LIKE this" side-eye is such a weird hook. Works though tbf.

[@miriamorwin7603]

A kind psychologist lI met adopted a daughter who OD'd at around 20. She told me not to adopt. i took her advice.

[@moemenace5345]

Dr. Grande, could you please analyze the case of Bossman Jack? Day 113 of asking 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@kllyc6327]

A clockwork orange vibe

[@flowerchild89]

Hi Dr. Grande! I love your show! 👋🇱🇷 Illinois 😌. I watch it daily!!!

[@bellelavie3422]

Dr. Grande, thank you for being very informative as always and for your deadpan sense of humor.

[@breathnstop]

It's not hard to be a model inmate. All you have to do is lay low. Psychopaths do very well in prison and usually make parole.

[@enjoystraveling]

I imagine it’s very easy to do well in a structured environment if you can just follow the rules and stay out of trouble, but if you’re out of structured environment, it’s easy to go back to your friends or former life, selling drugs or crime if you haven’t really made a decision to change.

[@reneegardner2286]

Exactly

[@misssarah2795]

Dr. Grande, have you covered the Thelma Pauline Melton case? Love your channel!!

[@miscprojects9662]

T there is no redemption for any baby born with drugs in its system. Time and time again they grow up to do heinous things.

[@dazzlerweb]

to infinity and beyond!

[@SwimminWitDaFishies]

NICE SHIRT!! The subtle design and color is very spiffy boffo on you 🌵

[@cherylcalogero3330]

What a horrible outcome Dr G.. Wow.

[@kylethejellymanpro8891]

I ALWAYS WANTED YOU TO COVER THIS CASE THANK YOU

[@aarondavis8943]

If Steven's mother drank alcohol during her pregnancy, this is much worse than having cocaine etc in her system. My guess is, she did drink during her pregnancy, as do an astonishing number of women. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome has a massive and devastating impact on the affected individuals, those around them and society generally. A large proportion of the prison population are thought to suffer from this condition.

[@justnoted2995]

Be very careful who you adopt.. check out the family tree and disorders

[@nanettevantriesteharder2469]

Babies exposed to drugs in utero may experience developmental consequences, including impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development. Prenatal drug exposure may impact the child's behavior, language, cognition, and achievement long-term.

[@carriemindplsable]

The problem is you can't really check. Not really. You can meet the bio mom but she may not know/tell/want to admit any disorders that she or her family have and the child's father may not even be known for sure.

[@carnifaxx]

@@carriemindplsable also in these families, paperwork probably doesn't even match real genetic background... like there is probably a much higher level of cheating and inbreeding than in general population...

[@justnoted2995]

@@carriemindplsable Then rather pass on that one

[@australien6611]

Good job by the judge

[@breathnstop]

Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange.

[@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT]

It would be interesting to see a large scale survey to determine what percentage of home-schooled kids end up as misfits and criminals.

[@reneegardner2286]

My friend was a covert narcissist. She home schooled her kids

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@reneegardner2286ok? You don’t think there are also covert narcs in the education system as well? Ofc there will be good parents & bad parents when it comes to home schooling….just like there are good & bad teachers, doctors, cops etc.

[@commonsense2680]

Hi Dr Grande, thank you for another interesting case. I am wondering about how you list various personality traits that you speculate about these criminals like sadistic, narcissistic, thrill-seeking, anti-social, etc. One of the essential summary that often comes to my mind is the word "evil." I realize the word has many subjective connotations, and has been subject to many arguments of what constitutes evil for centuries. Yet, when you name these other traits, particularly those who enjoy torturing other people, have zero remorse, and just love the idea of murder simply for "the fun of it" at what point can society stop making up excuses, technical terms, "disorders" or "illnesses" for such behavior and just call it evil? I have been struggling with the existential issue of where there is a God all my life, and heard so many things to justify or not justify people's beliefs. I think that if someone were to consider something truly or purely "evil" then I may be able to imagine that something the exact opposite can also exist. It seems like a major incentive for the belief in God would be to believe that true justice can occur somehow and outside my brief existence, the type of justice only an eternal being can give. I don't know anything, just wondering if there really is EVIL?

[@Tuishimi]

Oof. I had friends in Brookline. My wife and my first house was in Candia, near Manchester...

[@kdt3006]

There is no "lack of understanding about mathematics." The judge gave a sick burn and you're overthinking it.

[@VetteMAE2]

Hello Dr. Grande, Can you please analyze the case of Yvonne Serrano from Coral Springs. Strange case. Thank You.

[@MiniiCitrus]

Is there anything that can be done to help someone like this? I imagine it must have been hard for Steven's parents to do everything they could to find him help and still end up with the result they did.

[@epicmercury333]

So incredibly sick.

[@LauraWoodhams]

Absolutely 💯 love this channel.

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting Thank you ❤

[@johnfox9169]

Dr. Grande, please consider doing a video on Ricky Nelson, the late singer and actor who was a son of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson. Thanks.

[@nanettevantriesteharder2469]

Such a promising future . . . such a sad ending.

[@tommyrjensen]

As a former resident of The Great White North, I tend to concur with the idea that the competency of the law enforcement might allow some additional degree of freedom against re-capture.

[@jasonsmith373]

Dr. Grande always gives 300%.😉

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

Wow, what a disappointment that kid was. The poor adoptive parents.

[@MEL2theJ]

Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏

[@williamwelch7]

Thanks Dr. Grande

[@SwyTashee]

The Arizona link is interesting.

[@mikeall7012]

What worries me is that kids like him can't get the help they need. Just to get our son an ADHD exam, it took almost 2 years to get him an appointment. The lack of child mental health services is a real problem right now. The gal at the facility said even priority cases, meaning violent kids, are having long waits to get into treatment and most parents have to pay out of pocket for all costs. That means that the poor kids are not even getting into treatment and are left to the schools and parents to try and sort it out, which doesn't end up working.

[@jonc6463]

Interesting case thank you 🙏

[@wendybond2848]

I feel sorry for Stephen’s adoptive parents. The damage done by drugs and likely alcohol in utero, should not be under estimated.

[@javierromero6858]

Almost like a deterrent of adoption

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

And these two were Boy Scouts! (Nice shirt Doc.)

[@EM-tx3ly]

No one’s above suspicion Look at the teachers trainers coaches priests even family members……

[@LearningWithMissSadye]

“Hard knock life “ and “the sun” didn’t come out tomorrow! 😂

[@ShadeNinja2990]

To answer your question, yes

[@luanawilchek644]

Can you do the case of Kimberly Langwell?

[@lun4red1tz]

Ayy, its Dr. Grande! I was going through your channel to look for your Virginia Tech video, didnt expect this! Another great video, Doc❤

[@bedlambikes]

Can you analyze the case regarding the recent breaking news on the Disney discriminatory hiring practices??

[@sean5558]

Marine boot camp is not easy but it’s not nearly impossible to complete like navy seal training. Unless you are seriously injured or have medical conditions you kept secret, You have to have some serious mental issues to fail boot camp

[@rootfish2671]

Unfortunately they are having recruitment problems due to large scale teenage obesity

[@thatcattycat]

Anyone else think Steven looks like Stewart from MadTV?

[@destronia123]

Spader looks like "Bull" from Night Court.

[@cherylcalogero3330]

Hi Dr Grande! #14..wow! ♥️🐱♥️

[@CesarClouds]

Many similarities, minus murder, to that of Joseph Konopka or, as he christined himself, "Dr. Chaos". His disciples were challed "Realm of Chaos". Would be interesting to see Dr. Grande's take.

[@mathieuleader8601]

this case especially with the title sounds like an Agatha Christie mystery

[@hopeausbyn1734]

When these 4 could not enjoy the world , they sought to destroy the world. Yet, it only took a child, younger than them, to stop them.

[@almightyyt2101]

Its a play on Senor Grande ,Mr.Big and is his nom de plume for his 'other job'

[@LilyFlowers-hh3sc]

Again all of these children would have probably been okay if emotional intelligence had been a subject taught in their schools. We can't just assume parents are going to teach them everything they need to understand. We need to teach how to cope life, ideas on se×, empathy etc. It needs to be just as important as math or any other major subject. The online world is scary. It is teaching all of your children to be violent and laugh about it. None of your children are immune and they are hiding their true thoughts from you. They will act like an innocent angel in front of you and then turn around and say violent things to their friends. We need to do something. This will get worse.

[@waltgold6254]

Is it just me or does anyone else wonder which shirt Dr.Grande will wear next on his video ? 🧐

[@ebudae]

Too much time on your hands 😅

[@SunShine-qk4rb]

Horrific.I really feel for the daughter

[@billj1836]

Not really that long ago and yet we had Judges that up held the law and D.A.s that would prosecuted criminals. Where did these people go??

[@christopherortiz9330]

As soon as I heard my name, Christopher, I knew we were in for a weird one.

[@urielflames3799]

Everyone needs GOD in there lives

[@kimsherlock8969]

Sadly this situation of having good Parents who cared about his mental illness were not successful 😔 I wonder what he would've become elsewhere adopted , the same? I believe his personality was already locked in as the adopted child did not reflect any stability in having a good home and parenting experience.

[@melissaharris3389]

Unfortunately, they attempted to get him help much too late. Children like this generally require intense psychotherapy from eary adolescence to even have a chance at mitigating the cluster B personally issues.

[@rundbaum]

it's accelerating . . .