200A Main Breaker Panel Upgrade to 54 Circuits | Part 1 of 2

[@DailyBibleVerses-t5h]

Great video. We use QO exclusively. Also do the bonding jumper. I like to keep neutrals and grounds separate (but bonded) in case they needed to be separated later like if a standby generator is installed.

[@CaptainNixon]

Absolutely love the 200A upgrade videos, thank you and great job Ron as always!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@CaptainNixon Thank you Captain!

[@fishynut8252]

As a retired engineer (not an electrician) I really appreciate your videos. I always like to see work done by the book!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Happy to have you here on the channel. Thanks for watching!

[@jdkdomain]

Ron does really great work- worked on my home and is an expert.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@jdkdomain thanks Jeff!

[@Merescat]

Awesome upgrade! Looking forward to part # 2. 😀

[@drewpanetti]

Great video Ron, I really appreciate your Direct citations of code articles. I have been following your channel for well over a year now but I have really appreciated the videos as of late. I was one year into my apprenticeship when I suffered a spinal cord injury and I am no longer able to work in the field. Watching videos like yours has been very therapeutic as I miss the fieldwork a ton. Keep up the good work, your videos are very valuable to the younger generations coming into the trade!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@drewpanetti Your story makes me sad. I’m sorry that you can no longer physically work as an electrician. You can still master the NEC and use those skills to teach others. I wish you the best.

[@aquamansanchez8784]

Thank you for your channel, I'm currently finishing my ET course soon. Videos like yours help put everything together, understanding material, reference to NEC code, and the visual. Again, you're awesome, and thank you for everything.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@aquamansanchez8784 You’re welcome. I’m glad I could help you in your career as an electrician.

[@outlet6989]

I believe the NEC codes are updated more often than those of Microsoft Windows.

[@robbe8858]

Awesome video Ron, thanks for taking us along ,learned a lot .

[@outlet6989]

About twenty years ago, my 100-amp service was upgraded to 200-amps. The electrician and his helper removed the cover on the outside service box. They were in a hurry and didn't wait for the power company to arrive to remove the meter box. My Florida county fined them for doing that. When they pulled the wires from my old service box, I asked them how they knew which wires were connected to which circuit in my house. They told me they would figure that out later. I believe they should have labeled the wires to indicate which breaker they attached to. I know I'll see how this is done in Part 2.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

How do you know for sure they are all labeled correctly in the first place? Legit question b because shit gets added like twin breakers and and if it's not labeled/ changed correctly then than how am I supposed to do it right the first time if I take the word from the pervious 'electrician' that was there??

[@outlet6989]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey@electricianron_New_Jersey Hi Ron, I appreciate your reply. When I watched you disconnect the wires, I wondered how you would label the new circuit breaker list you would place on the breaker box. This brought memories from the time my new 200amp service was installed. I'm ready to watch your part 2 video and how you decide to fill out the breaker list. This should be interesting to watch.

[@carlluis770]

I am an electrical engineer your video help me understand the nec better Ron thank you

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@carlluis770 I’m glad I could help.

[@ClickinChicken]

HA! You're Awesome! Really! Glad I met you in DC! Well, sort of..

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thanks for watching these videos!

[@anthonyelectric6045]

Wow love that extra large QO panel. I usually use Square D equipment over the years. Never had any issues etc.That was a full boat of wires Ron, great job MAGA !! 👍

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@anthonyelectric6045 MAGA!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 A lot of circuits on this one.

[@fiehlsport]

I have that same panel in my house, circa 1985. It is rated for 10 tandem breakers allowable per the panel schedule. Of course, I’ve got 10 installed. Had to install additional ground bars to correct all of the doubled up and combined neutrals/grounds they did back in the day. A 30 space just isn’t enough these days. It’s still in perfect condition though, the bus is clean and none of the breakers are burned. Replaced a few noisy ones but other than that it’s solid.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Very rare to see issues with a QO. By the way, in case you didn’t know, the double tap neutrals were permitted until about 2002 or so. Just FYI.

[@vince6829]

Nice job!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thanks for always watching and commenting on almost all of my videos!

[@harveypaxton1232]

Another outstanding video. Thanks.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

thank you so much!

[@ReubenUrrea]

The comment section is interesting and lthe second education to the video you just made. Good video.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@ReubenUrrea I hope you liked it! Thanks!

[@bnasty267]

Nice work on flipping the panel. I'll never understand guys that insist on keeping the main breaker on top, even when the service/subpanel entrance cable is at the bottom. Makes no sense to have those thick conductors looping around the panel taking up space. They're also always live (unless meter pull), so if someone slips with a screwdriver punching a knockout or a dummy uses the wrong kind of panel cover screws, that's going to be a bad day. One thing I don't like about QO (as opposed to Homeline) is how they bunch up the neutrals near the main breaker. Sure, if most branch circuits enter near it, it's neater not having those extra neutral wires running all over, but good luck if you need to install GFCI/AFCI later. I tend to use Homeline, and I like landing a circuit's neutral as close to the breaker as I can on the neutral bus right under where the breaker goes. Makes it consistent with how the plug-on-neutrals look and means swapping to one of those breakers is easy.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@bnasty267 I’m not sure what you’re referring to but this panel is a plug-on neutral so if you choose a plug-on neutral AFCI or GFCI breaker then you’re good to go with less clutter.

[@bnasty267]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey I just meant that if the QO main breaker is on top, and the neutrals are shortened to land on the neutral bus (at the top), they aren't long enough to reach down to a breaker that needs the neutral (GF/AF) if later converted. Usually not an issue, but if a circuit extension triggers the need to add an AF breaker later, the neutral may need extending. Not an issue here since you flipped the panel so the neutrals are full length.

[@johnwalker890]

Good job Ron..........

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Thanks again John!

[@johnwalker890]

Western PA, Retired maintenance electrician, says your welcome.........

[@rivianconsult]

Just for clarification, if the additional grounding bars are only used for equipment grounding conductors and no neutrals are 6GA bonding jumpers still required?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Yes, then you're good.

[@rivianconsult]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey Thanks Ron, love the channel!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@rivianconsult Thsnk you!

[@nickk05281982]

Did they already have a main disconnect outside?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

No, and in New Jersey it wouldn't be required under the Rehab Subcode which specifically states "panel change only, no emergency disconnect required." So I play by those rules. I don't hardly ever knew construction and that's where all of the new codes come into play, like Arc-fault and GFCI requirements.

[@nickk05281982]

Oh that’s too bad. Makes it quick for fireman to get power off and start using water

[@wizard3z868]

When I started my apprentaship in late 1990's those blue Arlington where what we used in NH as well I think I might even have a few in the bottem of my misc. Connecters fastners collection 😅

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Ha ha!

[@davidshertzer900]

How do you like that Veto backpack? I'm looking at the same one but not sure I want to spend that kind of money. Nice video!

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@davidshertzer900 Dude, the Vero IS ALWAYS WORTH IT. I have a lot of Veto tool bags and they’re impossible to break. Expensive, yes, but they last a long time.

[@fillowtree5505]

Ron,nice meeting you in front of the barbershop. Keep up the good work! By chance do you post daily work on IG?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Nice! Arjan is a great man! He used to cut my hair when he worked and I lived in Rahway!

[@GOAT4Ever29]

keep it up!

[@ChangHyunIm]

Thanks

[@BearStar1]

Sq D Homeline Panels also recommend installing the Whole House Surge Protector closet to the Main Panel Breaker

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Square D HOM's are ok. I've installed them before.

[@carbongrip2108]

Enjoyed the video, looking forward to part 2. Have you checked out Leviton panels and what are your thoughts on them...

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

I’ve never been asked to install one. Most manufacturers have developed smart circuit breakers but they’re still not readily available.

[@NitinSharma-tl8rw]

Namaste sir ji

[@mattmiller8251]

I always tape my 2 pole wires together. Otherwise I'll forget and have that white wire buried behind other neutrals before I realize it's suppose to land on the breaker lol

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@mattmiller8251 When that call comes in from your customer telling you that a load you know is 240 volts isn’t working and now you have to go back to that job and right the wrong. You won’t make that mistake very often.

[@TheMrLONZ]

Great Job Ron! Is Square D/ QO your Go to load center brand?

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

QO is a nice product, obviously, but not everyone can afford to have a QO installed.

[@mattheww2797]

Get that eye protection going on, one little oops and there goes your eye sight and ability to work

[@ElectroAtletico]

Well check out the spanking new VETO TECH PAC MC!!! p.s. What was your rate, CE? (Me ex-AC3 before promotion to the "O".)

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@ElectroAtletico I made third class PO. Honorable discharge 1998.

[@lesterwatson8519]

Should you not have put a barrier over the open meter socket between the top lugs of the meter base and the open socket where the meter was installed. I assume the top lugs are energized. This would prevent some one from getting into live power. Other wise great job as usual. BTW how about doing a tutorial on bonding and grounding and the purpose use of the bonding jumper and why it is to removed from all panels that are not the first point of disconnect. A lot of new electricians don't under stand this jumper "even some older ones. When I first started as an electrician "over fifty years ago", " I am now retired" I was told by a lot of electricians the the ground and neutral are always the same. This is true if the bonding jumper is in place.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@lesterwatson8519 That’s a great idea for a video. Ground and neutral are absolutely not the same thing. The grounded “neutral” conductor is a current carry conductor whereas the equipment grounding conductor is never a current carrying conductor.

[@ClickinChicken]

I mean I saw you on Nick's video.

[@normanvictor2561]

Ron !! Did you see the loaded mousetrap inches from your fingers??? Look at 8:57 BE CAREFUL!!!

[@BearStar1]

WHY is the audio fading IN and OUT ???

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

I was having a problem with the audio (obviously). I have a couple of Go Pro 10's and a couple of Media Mods to connect an external audio source but something was wrong with either the media Mod and/ or the camera's built-in microphone. I'm aware of the situation. It's frustrating as you would imagine, especially since I have DJI Wireless microphone yet I still have issues with the audio.

[@mackfisher4487]

Ron you said 600 for breakers for that panel, I think you said you're under 2020, Just think about the price of breakers under 2023 no more five dollar breakers. Just about everything GFCI AFCI but on the bright side think about T&M for false trips.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@mackfisher4487 here in NJ this work falls under the rehabilitation sub code. No GFCI or AFCI for an existing installation. Of course, if they want that (or need that), then I will put them in. This house had a lot of shit work, like NM in wet locations, that sort of thing.

[@DanT271]

TRUMP! Love Square D QO I'm also subbed to Nick

[@tonto435]

You lost me. Keep politics to yourself.

[@jakelonganbach]

kind of like this comment. I'm sure he's devastated.

[@mikeking3110]

@@jakelonganbachlol!😂😂😂😂😂 must have triggered the person with the Trump comment

[@georgejetson4378]

Me too. The admiration and support of a convicted felon, twice impeached, pathological liar, that incited an insurrection is something that honest, ethical, moral and decent people that respect truth will never understand!

[@georgejetson4378]

@@jakelonganbachDevastated? Perhaps not but maybe concerned if he’s trying to grow his channel!

[@jakelonganbach]

@georgejetson4378 I don’t think KZbin is his primary source of income. Based on previous videos he just shares his experience for others that may be interested or in the same field. So someone disagreeing with a personal view I believe is a non-issue. If people don’t like it they can do like the OC did and leave, but we don’t need an announcement It’s not an airport.

[@BearStar1]

I don't buy or install Sq D QO panels ! I only buy and install Sq D Homeline Panels and Circuit Breakers

[@MrJujubean]

I agree with you, I am so happy Trump got elected and he is kicking ass already. The country dodged a big bullet with this election.

[@hunterstark9556]

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[@hj8607]

Whatever !

[@Dirthauler65]

Square D ??!! One of the most expensive panels you can buy, and you can only use Square D breakers, and because of that, they charge a fortune for those too. Better off with a Challenger or one of the others that use interchangeable breakers which cost far less. You probably could have done that job for half the cost.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Yes, they're expensive. I know. My customer had QO previously and I specifically asked him if he wanted the same premium product. Believe me, my customers know the costs prior to doing any work. Occasionally, troubleshooting and repair cost more than originally quoted because the scope of work has changed. The bottom line is Square D QO is the champion of premium electrical products. Challenger? Are you kidding me? There's nothing more junky except Federal Pacific than Challenger. If you have one that should be changed as soon as possible. Challenger, SMH bro.

[@Bud3236]

You pay for quality, after 30 years as an electrician I have never seen a burnt up busbar on a QO panel. I have seen 100's of burnt Challenger/Bryant panels

[@510Redneck]

Get that💰bro AF 🦾 subbed

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

@@510Redneck LMAO! Let’s go!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸