2018 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS review: Australia!

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@bluecent
@bluecent 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that GM won’t ship here already dismantled, meaning extra cost for consumers says much about GM’s attitude towards Australia.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
It's 84000 in uk Lhd
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Japan 6,500,000 yen LHd . Without conversion you will save $10000 if your lucky
@gherasimtibi
@gherasimtibi 6 жыл бұрын
ya we dont care
@robmotown1
@robmotown1 6 жыл бұрын
2022....... right hand drive from factory!!
@MegaChasevideos
@MegaChasevideos 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is the lansing green plant can’t support it, they are already building Cadillac CTS and ats at the same place then if they added right hand drive variants they would either have to drop cars or expand
@robdiv5848
@robdiv5848 6 жыл бұрын
I tested drive this car today, it really is amazing to drive! Don't write it off until you drive one, HSV have done a great job
@twistentiger5610
@twistentiger5610 6 жыл бұрын
Now dodge it's your turn to bring the Hellcat Challenger and Charger
@vallrikstone9420
@vallrikstone9420 5 жыл бұрын
I work at HSV re-manufacturing the seats for the comaro. It's a great place to work and I'm glad to see others reviewing the cars.
@8170youngwilliam
@8170youngwilliam 6 жыл бұрын
The whole centre console would piss me off no end. That's a deal breaker.
@TheWinstonChu
@TheWinstonChu 6 жыл бұрын
Especially if you're gonna be resting your arm on a bloody cupholder on a daily basis lol what were they thinking?
@8170youngwilliam
@8170youngwilliam 6 жыл бұрын
@JUST DO IT, it's a rule from the when horses were the means of transport and wielding a sword was necessary for fending off would be attackers. British Empire would not concede to what was a French/American idea of the time so we now keep left. French and America keep right as they did it when driving horse drawn carriages from the left rear horse, lashing the horses with their right hand. It would cost far too much to move Britain, Australia and Japan just to name a few over to the other side.
@DennosManCave
@DennosManCave 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest, if that's your deal breaker, this car ain't for you. The Mustang is the same. Buyers who want a US muscle car will grumble about this, but wont be a deal breaker. The car is obviously not for your!
@8170youngwilliam
@8170youngwilliam 6 жыл бұрын
@@DennosManCave, so you are happy to pay $20000 extra for something that isn't finished? Yes, not finished. How hard is it to get the center console setup for right hand drive. HSV can get 1000 made, and store in bulk. Sales will double. Creature comforts go a long way in a car.
@DennosManCave
@DennosManCave 6 жыл бұрын
@@8170youngwilliam Mate, I wouldn't pay an extra $20k for a car not as good as a Mustang. What I'm saying is, is not a deal breaker. The console is the same in the Mustang .. the handbrake is on the LHS of the centre console. Didn't stop me buying one. And wasn't a consideration when choosing to buy one. I'm saying that buying a car like this is emotive ... And not having the console exact is no deal breaker to the buyer persona of who is looking for a car like this
@theimprovementsguy8871
@theimprovementsguy8871 6 жыл бұрын
Rather buy a mustang and drop a supercharger on it for that price
@cameronvanhooft
@cameronvanhooft 6 жыл бұрын
Supercharger + Tune + Semi-slicks = Ultimate car for the money
@kreaturekars
@kreaturekars 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it cant claim to beat the mustang, if its priced well above it. And i am no fan of the ford but this priced itself out for what it is
@shaunb9876
@shaunb9876 6 жыл бұрын
Very good point
@Buddy89538
@Buddy89538 5 жыл бұрын
But.....Add a tune, Cam and exhaust upgrade, CAI. And the mustang wouldn’t come close..plus the price keeps away the riff raff like everyday mustang drivers..keep it a novelty
@me-ue5ft
@me-ue5ft 4 жыл бұрын
I love the mustang over the camaro too but the only downside I see for Mustang is its terrible ancap rating
@exploringwithjez931
@exploringwithjez931 6 жыл бұрын
I spent ten days and covered two and a half thousand miles in one earlier this year in Cali and Nevada. I was really impressed with the the whole car. The fuel economy was so good for what it is. Between 8 to 11 litres and I drove it fairly hard. Vision was crap but that’s what you get for a car that looks like a ten year olds dream car. I even slept in it at Yosemite national park, by folding down the rear seat and poking my legs into the boot. The dash is on point. The controls look so good and are incredibly easy to use. Why can’t all modern cars have this setup. Centre console is small but what do you expect from a car with a thumping big driveline and sits as low as a go kart. But it does suck just how cheap they are over in the US. I’m sorry but I cannot justify or even afford to buy one here.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
2015 2ss manual is $30000usd / 2018 1ss manual is $30000usd this has auto and sunroof extra $3000 usd to the price . Australia has high consumption taxes than usa ' luxury car tax 33% ' 3% stamp duty Usa don't have on cars
@DaxXx988
@DaxXx988 6 жыл бұрын
LOL hilarious with not sorting out the center console!
@lunch6360
@lunch6360 5 жыл бұрын
The console lid is worse when configured correctly, find a USA review and you’ll see
@bobsuzy1
@bobsuzy1 5 жыл бұрын
I give it two years , they’ll sell 500 of them and lights out. You’d have to be mad. Mustang will kill it in sales
@grecoconduris6716
@grecoconduris6716 6 жыл бұрын
I know I should not be concerned about the fuel economy with a car like this, but those numbers were almost as impressive as the performance.
@project_calais4977
@project_calais4977 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to finally see a review of the Camaro. HSV has done a good job on the conversion.
@mikeparkes7922
@mikeparkes7922 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind resting your arm on your drink, yes.
@project_calais4977
@project_calais4977 6 жыл бұрын
Well thats true. However I sometimes find myself hitting the fold down cupholder with my knee in my VZ Calais and im short as hell. Maybe HSV will address the armrest/cupholders in the Camaro in the next batch of orders.
@Tomoyo0827
@Tomoyo0827 6 жыл бұрын
11l/100 v8 not even a turbo is impressive. The key with this kinda car is that you don’t want waste all your money you just saved buying a sports car at this price point on fuel.
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 6 жыл бұрын
Rather Mustang, and spend 20 k making it faster !!!
@7071t6
@7071t6 6 жыл бұрын
So basically like is said before the aftermarket NA mods are going to go through the roof as far as costs go, basically Harrop will offer supercharger kits with headers and full exhaust and OTR system for around 18 to 25K depending on what you ask for, like heads, cam, full exhaust system, ( including hi flow cats, trans cooler if not already fitted by HSV, so for around 100K you will have a monster of a SS camaro with around 500KW at the rear wheels, or go NA with around 400KW at the rear wheels with OTR, full exhaust system and tune, which while the HSV warranty will be covered if you get the NA mods and even if you have a supercharger fitted, just like the US version, which i have no doubt the saem mods will be used as the SS ZR1 has directly from the states and HSV will do the upgrades or Harrop or all the others who will have the right stuff to do the upgrades and still have the factory warranty 3 years or 100,000KM which ever comes first, so how much will the re sale value be, ( 10,000KM and selling for around 75K 2nd hand but with factory warranty still) especially those HSV enhanced / forgot Walkinshaw will also have their version as well. :)
@FATALDEATHZ
@FATALDEATHZ 6 жыл бұрын
95k and it's not even the newest model that they're bringing here....wow
@hsvcommodore4111
@hsvcommodore4111 6 жыл бұрын
Mario Sallak Nobody wants The new one with that uglie Grill!
@FATALDEATHZ
@FATALDEATHZ 6 жыл бұрын
@@hsvcommodore4111 I'm talking in relation to the price, you are paying 95k for the last gen camaro and they are marketing it as the newest baddest car on the street
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
@@FATALDEATHZ Australia has huge taxes thanks to socialists / $19000 in tax on this Camaro
@edward2030
@edward2030 6 жыл бұрын
It's not 95K, it's in the 80K mark
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
@@edward2030 $95000aud drive away . Stamp duty , orc , dealer delivery tax adds $9000 to the price . Then you have 7000 gst ' $5500 luxury car tax
@Sydhophop
@Sydhophop 6 жыл бұрын
I hope they bring a V8 naturally aspirated manual version of this here one day. Dream car.
@Studat
@Studat 6 жыл бұрын
I think I rather be dropping my money on an Australian built SS...
@ryann7483
@ryann7483 6 жыл бұрын
Stuart well there’s still plenty at the dealerships
@Studat
@Studat 6 жыл бұрын
@@ryann7483 clearly you missed the point of my comment and I have the last of the SSVs already.
@brent1835
@brent1835 6 жыл бұрын
@@Studat wtf are you on about clearly you are missing a few screws. Especially buying one of those last shit heaps they cant even fucking give away
@TimberWulfIsHere
@TimberWulfIsHere 6 жыл бұрын
Disgusting.
@benno_360
@benno_360 6 жыл бұрын
​@@Studat I get what youre saying Stuart but the public didnt want them outside of car enthusiasts. They saw sales success in their final years because there was a rush to get the last ones. Prior to that sales dropped year on year. Most people just want a Hyundai with 7 year warranty that goes A-B. We'd still have the SS commodore if people bought the base models that are needed to sustain sales so the performance cars can be built on top of that platform.
@mikeparkes7922
@mikeparkes7922 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, it's a bloody nice looking car, even though it is last year's model, with a hefty $20k inflated price, auto only, and a shoddy (drive with your arm in your coffee...what the?) conversion. Thank god they didn't devalue it by calling it a Holden.
@mikeparkes7922
@mikeparkes7922 6 жыл бұрын
@old bogan ​ Actually, you couldn't be farther from the truth, mate. Of the 100+ cars I have owned over the years, the MAJORITY have been GM (both US and Australian). The rest have been (mainly) Ford, plus some Mopars (including my current SRT8 vehicles). NEVER owned a Hyundai, but I have nothing against you (or anyone else) owning one.
@mikeparkes7922
@mikeparkes7922 6 жыл бұрын
@old bogan Ok. Enjoy your Hyundai.
@mikeparkes7922
@mikeparkes7922 6 жыл бұрын
@old bogan Apparently not, troll. If you had or could actually read what I wrote.
@Somchai007
@Somchai007 6 жыл бұрын
@old bogan You drive a Hyundi and still have the cheek to call someone out, OMG!!
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
33% luxury car tax on the price , that left socialist fucktards pushed higher in 2008
@kushagratripathi113
@kushagratripathi113 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I'm from India and wanted to say that this channel is awesome for automobile lovers, I'm big fan of the way you reviewing any car keep uploading this types of ultimate video.
@googleisshit2266
@googleisshit2266 4 жыл бұрын
no one cares mate.
@kushagratripathi113
@kushagratripathi113 4 жыл бұрын
@@googleisshit2266 Yeaah I think you're right
@TheWinstonChu
@TheWinstonChu 6 жыл бұрын
No manual gearbox lol wtf...
@andyw_
@andyw_ 6 жыл бұрын
i mean he said that and i could imagine since its basically a custom car you need to perfect one version instead of putting out two shit versions
@7071t6
@7071t6 6 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, there will be series twom which will have 6 speed manual ,then also the US version ZL1 with supercharger kits and so on, they bring this version out to see how many people will trade there HSV VF's to get one of these and then spend the extra money via HSV upgrades which are like the ZL1 versions anyway, but again spending more money like normal ? Its like the Series one VF HSV, 340 KW for a SV version or the GTs with 430KW, then the series two can out with all supercharged engines no matter which models you wanted clubby, R8, GTS, Maloo, all go 410 KW except for the grange and the senator and GTS, So think about the next 5 years of new models, thats what HSV will be doing, they are niot stupid, VF"s will be traded in, the price will drop on 2nd HSV VF's and then more people will trade thier cars because they can affrod a VF HSV now and then in 5 years 2nd hand SS series one camaros will be out there for sale because people updated to the serie two. :) thats they way the cookie crumbles people ?H
@benno_360
@benno_360 6 жыл бұрын
@@andyw_ They have to order Argentina spec cars because theyre most closely ADR compliant. Argentina only get Auto's with sunroofs made. Theyre trying to prove they can do this to US Gm and hopefully that will allow them to put in orders to have manuals, albiet still LHD
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 6 жыл бұрын
Automatic is faster than manual, manual cars are being phased out for good reason lol
@benno_360
@benno_360 6 жыл бұрын
​@@MichelLinschoten You're right. Everybody looks for different things from a car though. Some people prefer just doing 1/4 mile straight line drags. Others like tack stuff or twisties. It's good to offer a manual for track day guys. HSV said they would love to offer manual to attract more customers they just don't have access to them and have to bring in Argentine spec Autos for this year.
@ozzierockets1163
@ozzierockets1163 6 жыл бұрын
Looks a little tight for leg room if you're north of 6ft.
@automandan
@automandan 6 жыл бұрын
Actually that's what I thought as well till I sat in one. I'm 6,4 ft with long legs and long arms you know typical size American LOL. And I fit just fine. The Mustang does have more headroom but both are nice to drive.
@michealcronin8586
@michealcronin8586 6 жыл бұрын
He didn't adjust the seat at all. They go back quite far. They also adjust down to get your head away from the roof.
@DIVLJIVUK
@DIVLJIVUK 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 6 foot 7 and it's too small for me as extremely uncomfortable
@lunch6360
@lunch6360 5 жыл бұрын
Milenko Suka, at 6’7” most cars would be too small for you
@ImThAtGuY90
@ImThAtGuY90 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it doesn't have that bogan HSV badge on it
@lunch6360
@lunch6360 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised GMH didn’t rebadge it, they’ve been relying on the tactic since to 80s
@Thanostrelos
@Thanostrelos 6 жыл бұрын
Great review, short and informative with everything you would need to know about the car.
@remiandrepedersen868
@remiandrepedersen868 5 жыл бұрын
It's not really my style, but the question is whether it should stand in the way of how much one gets for the money, and I don't know if anyone else can compete with shevy there.
@KRISTINA-mm1uf
@KRISTINA-mm1uf 4 жыл бұрын
We got a 2ss and a zL1 .. beautiful cars i can’t get enough of them
@dallasfrost1996
@dallasfrost1996 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are one hell of a car! Even costing more after conversions, Camaro is still the one for me!
@HappyMatte
@HappyMatte 6 ай бұрын
I’ve owned one for last 4 years it has nothing on mustang especially with a throttle control installed omg quality alone leaves mustang behind , its biggest issue is storage 😂
@NickoOutBush
@NickoOutBush 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a Ford man.. but it looks great. Unreal mileage. But my stage III Xr6 turbo puts out 530 rwhp and has brembo brake. Handles my dirt road too
@Ozgrade3
@Ozgrade3 6 жыл бұрын
A recent article on Facebook indicated that GM were open to all products coming to Oz if there was a sound business case. That includes Cadillac. The way to make it happen is if consumers get off their butts and buy what's available now. Nothing speaks louder than sales numbers. Manual gearbox is coming in the facelifted version next year.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
In Usa you don't get sunroof standard with 2ss
@Procharged32
@Procharged32 6 жыл бұрын
Bodgy conversion i don't think the Mustang crowd are worried
@Revman996
@Revman996 5 жыл бұрын
Getting a laugh reading all the expert comments. You either like the Mustang or the Camaro. Nothing will probably change your mind. If you're buying, then just get the one you like. For true car lovers its usually not about price but how it makes you feel. If you are so worried about cup holders then you are missing purpose and the heart and soul of these cars.
@DatnaPatna
@DatnaPatna 4 жыл бұрын
The SS with the 1LE package is faster on basically any track than a M2 Competition so...it aint too clumsy after all I guess...
@cameronvanhooft
@cameronvanhooft 6 жыл бұрын
WTF? Similar power output, NO Manual, older model than US gets, ugly interior, & unmodified centre console? C'mon that's just not worth 20K+ more than the mustang. Should've had it converted in the US where they do it better
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Luxury car tax 33% on the price
@edward2030
@edward2030 6 жыл бұрын
I reckon it would be cheaper if it was converted to right hand drive from factory, similar to the Mustang
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be as cheap as a mustang tho.
@2maddie184
@2maddie184 6 жыл бұрын
If it was filmed from Australia, why the video isn't upside down?
@lunch6360
@lunch6360 5 жыл бұрын
Very good
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Peope are lying on this page .1ss with cloth trim with 11000 miles is $30000usd in Usa , 2ss manual with the 11000 miles is $45,000usd . Brand new ones off the showroom floor 1ss manual $40000usd , 2ss $50,000usd with extras sunroof and automatic in Usa
@TheHonro
@TheHonro 6 жыл бұрын
I dont understand GM tbh. They have a bigger engine at 6.2lt yet it makes the EXACT same power as the 2018 5lt from Mustang. That is alot of extra capacity they aren't making use of imho. Or could it be a tuning thing to leave room for higher performance models? Still that right there and for an extra $20k more is a bit of a deal breaker for me. My 2c
@kook4u
@kook4u 6 жыл бұрын
Peter HMan Coyote engine is actually much bigger physically and heavier. LT1 is a pushrod V8 and the Coyote is a dual overhead cam V8. Completely different types of engines with the LT1 rumbling and shaking the car and the Coyote being a high revving smooth engine.
@josephnicholls9640
@josephnicholls9640 6 жыл бұрын
Pushrod engines have a single cam and 2v per cylinder, the Mustang has double overhead camshafts (DOHC) per cylinder bank & 4v per cylinder. The DOHC design allows for not only higher, but more efficient air and exhaust flow, therefore it can combust more fuel at a faster rate and make more hp/L than a similar displacement (even larger displacement) pushrod design
@brendanbarnes3076
@brendanbarnes3076 6 жыл бұрын
I have seen the camaro in person and damn it looks amazing and I want one so much more than a mustang
@justcallmejohn2833
@justcallmejohn2833 6 жыл бұрын
Lower the head rest all the way, lower the seat and if you slide it forward just a little you can see out that little side window which help sometimes. Just something I’ve had to learn!
@hammeredhemi1223
@hammeredhemi1223 5 жыл бұрын
Please.... oh Please do an ANCAP Test on this car.... I dare you Holden. And If it passes ill buy one., but I highly doubt it would pass Ford put there balls on the block with the mustang so if you believe in your product so much then do the same.
@ConstantineTheGreatXP
@ConstantineTheGreatXP 5 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t the LED day running lights on??? They should be on at all times. I have a RS 17
@utz716
@utz716 6 жыл бұрын
How do I get the rear fog/back up light for my US spec!?
@AlsAllAussieAdventures
@AlsAllAussieAdventures 6 жыл бұрын
Good on hsv for bringing this in!! This car is FAR superior to the ford mustang is every single department.... the only place where the ford wins, is price.
@JC-zg4xe
@JC-zg4xe 6 жыл бұрын
LSA711 wow..
@robynjemson630
@robynjemson630 6 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true one eyed/ uneducated GM ........
@seanoconnor8135
@seanoconnor8135 6 жыл бұрын
And looks. And sound. And the fact that you can buy it in a manual...
@Ismaeelhuss
@Ismaeelhuss 5 жыл бұрын
Yes now I can buy my dream car in the UK once bought from Australia
@TechHead03
@TechHead03 6 жыл бұрын
Love the roar of the big V8 under acceleration and the tough looking stance. Does it come in Bumblebee yellow wit black stripes?
@davidsons.b904
@davidsons.b904 4 жыл бұрын
Can this model sent to malaysia but with bumblebee colour
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
I just found out there is no taxes on Mrsp retail price in Usa , some states add some taxes why its heaps cheaper in Usa
@luckdingwong2196
@luckdingwong2196 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke? N that interior.....fail
@7071t6
@7071t6 6 жыл бұрын
The DOD mode and still can only get around 650 KM per tank still good for a 6.2 lt v8 in this day and age, but they did not tell you its on 98 ron fuel and also maybe E85 fuel as well ?
@stefanocrescenzi7174
@stefanocrescenzi7174 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding the (hp) for us European!
@tomjohnson1110
@tomjohnson1110 6 жыл бұрын
The big question is, when is the ute model coming out.
@gdmclean
@gdmclean 6 жыл бұрын
Lack of built in Sat Nav is a bonus because they are usually garbage and Apple play with Google maps is far superior. Also the tilted down 8 inch screen reduces sun glare.
@g4do
@g4do 5 жыл бұрын
Visibility has been Camaros number one complaint since its reconception. But every redesign left out better visibility. Chevy doesn't listen to customers complaining nor car reviews. That is why mustang will always outsell Camaro.
@rsoul7282
@rsoul7282 6 жыл бұрын
Look on the bright side here ladies and gentlemen, at least it isn’t yet another SUV. Would you rather this, a new Commodore VXR or an Acadia?
@chrisstaff5870
@chrisstaff5870 6 жыл бұрын
R Soul well said. Enough of the bitching. Yea it’s expensive but at least it’s something 🤟
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstaff5870 Lhd 2ss is 2000 pounds more than a Amg 45 in uk 43000 pounds
@erichyun6065
@erichyun6065 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just wanna say the voice could be louder and the soundtrack a bit dimmer. But thanks for great content!
@davidmackieson4609
@davidmackieson4609 6 жыл бұрын
Screw that I could buy a real ss Camaro from the late 60's with same motor an box for less than what they want for that
@FairladyS130
@FairladyS130 6 жыл бұрын
Betting that 90% of the knockers here are not in the market for a similar car ie they don't have the money.
@harveyboy4461
@harveyboy4461 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the car in a paddock?
@salvadorian187
@salvadorian187 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if people will debadge the chev badge and put a holden one now.
@ezekielmason5241
@ezekielmason5241 5 жыл бұрын
What's the cost to convert one of these babies from left hand drive to right hand drive?
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
$12000 , $19000 in tax aswell
@dendunn6776
@dendunn6776 6 жыл бұрын
It's a nice to have choice other the European car Think more us built muscle cars rhd I'm a Mustang man but variety is nice
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
10% gst = $72000 + luxury car tax 33% = $75000 + orc with 3% stamp duty = $84,000aud + rhd conversion = $95000 aud
@jethrohaha
@jethrohaha 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Chesterman 95k For this? No thanks
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Agree but in in Uk Lhd 2ss is $81000 , Germany $85000 . Its priced with a Amg a45 in Europe
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
@@jethrohaha 2ss auto $50000usd drive away in Usa
@stivi739
@stivi739 6 жыл бұрын
Mmm no thanks.too pricey
@Ismaeelhuss
@Ismaeelhuss 5 жыл бұрын
How much is the car once the driving side has changed?
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
$73000aud + add taxes on top $93000aud drive away
@BumblebeeWasTaken
@BumblebeeWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
@@coopsnz1 Hell, and i was thinking to buy one in the future, i'll rather get a used commodore
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 3 жыл бұрын
@@BumblebeeWasTaken people forget USA doesn't have federal sales tax = no tax on the retail price why the cheaper
@eric2156
@eric2156 6 жыл бұрын
how many price to this car
@markrossi5627
@markrossi5627 6 жыл бұрын
I rented one of these in Hawaii for about $100 a day ,these are as cheap as a Corolla to buy over there. The road visibility is by far the worst I have ever seen, in fact I am surprised they meet Australian standards at all. They look and sound unbelievably good, but not seeing where you are going makes it unenjoyable to drive. Particularly like a performance car should be driven.Put on a welding mask next time your in the car to get a rough idea of what these are like to drive.
@thomasdavico3107
@thomasdavico3107 4 жыл бұрын
@Dave D Precisely 👍
@LawrenceAbramoff
@LawrenceAbramoff 6 жыл бұрын
Yes nothing out of Europe comes close for $86k, what about Korea though? I'm sure if the left over change from a Stinger GT was spent on tuning it would wipe the floor with this. Even in stock form it's faster with more equipment. My Stinger needs traction upgrades and tuning to fix stupid issues like it only staying manual for 30 sec then reverting back to auto, more aggressive launch control and always starting in comfort mode. Hardware wise, it needs better brakes.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
Camaro 1ss Manual with cloth trim would cost $70000 here . $8500usd less in Usa to a 2ss auto with sunroof
@paulgunovich2766
@paulgunovich2766 6 жыл бұрын
As a GM man I'm glad I bought a mustang. 20 k more? What a crock
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
$6000 in luxury car tax blame labor party / $20000 in taxes in total
@larrikinaxe3424
@larrikinaxe3424 6 жыл бұрын
Ford did a great job of safety, a two star rating is excellent by any standard, in a third world country.
@alvinprasad2051
@alvinprasad2051 5 жыл бұрын
No comments on the overall safety rating? Great journalism.
@dallasfrost1996
@dallasfrost1996 4 жыл бұрын
The U.S safety ratings show that the Camaro does better then both mustang and challenger if you were curious. Go look it up if you want to see it for your self.
@davidr4332
@davidr4332 6 жыл бұрын
I always been a Holden man as the Camaro has got a better looking sharp then the Mustang but everyone to there own choice . Would of been nice if they rename it to the Chevy Monaro like when they use to Export our Australia Holden HSV , VE and UTES cars over seas with a new name .
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
Mustang Gt premium $39000usd /2ss auto with sunroof $46000usd = $10000aud more before shipping it to Australia + Luxury car tax 33% = $15500 price difference . It would still be $15000 more than a Mustang gt Premium Manual rhd from Factory . In Uk Lhd its priced with a Audi rs3 , Audi rs3 is a little less in Australia . Priced for our Market really with this Rhd conversion costs
@lukew67
@lukew67 6 жыл бұрын
If this guy says cam-ahh-rowl again I'm going to have an aneurism
@MahBones
@MahBones 6 жыл бұрын
You'd prefer he added the non existent i in the middle?
@allyboy8
@allyboy8 6 жыл бұрын
Mustang looks better.
@westbr08
@westbr08 6 жыл бұрын
seems more like a money grabbing opportunity in regards to sending them to us as LH and then having to do a RH conversion. Do what Ford did and secure a right hand drive production first. I cant imagine anyone genuinely saying that they're happy with that centre console!
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Government makes $20000 on each one high consumption taxes here
@DennosManCave
@DennosManCave 6 жыл бұрын
"I think the quality is even better than the Mustang"... Said no-one ever.
@markyconfident
@markyconfident 5 жыл бұрын
LOL like the mustang is quality haha
@dallasfrost1996
@dallasfrost1996 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, the Camaro interior is over all better and nicer then the mustangs.. mustang interior is so out dated and cluttered.
@DennosManCave
@DennosManCave 4 жыл бұрын
@@dallasfrost1996 The quality of both is poor when compared to a Euro. But even Camaro owners comment that the interior quality in the Camaro is poor! Not sure how you think the Mustang interior is "cluttered" - its actually fairly simplistic!
@dallasfrost1996
@dallasfrost1996 4 жыл бұрын
@@DennosManCave man.. Im not saying camaro's interior are top notch stuff, but when compared to a mustang, the camaro is nicer... It looks way better and has that 21st century vibe unlike the mustang, it also has less dodgy spots that seemed to be fulled with plastic, now before you have a go at me for that, YES I know that the camaro also has a TON of plastic in it too, but to me it works better in how its designed. Also if Im going to be real with you, I dont know how you could honestly say that the mustang isn't cluttered and is "simple".. If you want a nice modern, clean design that's "simple", the camaro does a way better job of that. On the mustang theres just a big wall/block of crap plastic with gauges splattered every where making it look very chunky, cluttered and outdated... The camaro's interior is so much cleaner to look at, And when comparing a GT500 (that costs base price of 75K), The camaro ZL1 has a way nicer interior with less chunky plastic while being a bit cheaper... you'd think the GT500 would have a nice interior for its price, but no, Its almost the same interior out of a base model... Just pointing that out.
@AF-qc5vo
@AF-qc5vo 6 жыл бұрын
That looks better than the mustanggg damnnn..But holy shit is it expensive.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Priced a few 1000 pounds more than a AMG a45 in Europe
@AF-qc5vo
@AF-qc5vo 6 жыл бұрын
@@coopsnz1 I would rather have a Camaro over an AMG a45, I am just not a fan of hatches.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
@@AF-qc5vo then blame Government for luxury car tax 33% adds $5000 to the price
@AF-qc5vo
@AF-qc5vo 6 жыл бұрын
@@coopsnz1 I mean....technically the Camaro is not really a luxury car
@snozbaries7652
@snozbaries7652 6 жыл бұрын
The Camaro is an ugly pig compared to the Mustang.
@StachR34
@StachR34 5 жыл бұрын
Wayyy to expensive... and for that matter.. ill go Mustang!
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
$7000usd price difference in Usa , in Usa mrsp retail price has no taxes bro why heaps cheaper to buy in Usa . Australia has 13% -51% tax
@goldenretriever6440
@goldenretriever6440 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how tempted GM were to turn the camaro into a Monaro I mean they could’ve done it so easily Just change the front end and stick some Holden badges on it
@Tomgillchevy
@Tomgillchevy 6 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@502Imcomingthrough
@502Imcomingthrough 6 жыл бұрын
I love the Camaro so much I could live with its short comings but if I ever get to afford one, there'll be a better version by then.......hopefully
@BurgoYT
@BurgoYT 5 жыл бұрын
502Imcomingthrough I agree, think we are getting one in a couple months too haha
@shadako2
@shadako2 6 жыл бұрын
Looks good in the Aussie sun :) getting into mad max territory...
@msgofast
@msgofast 6 жыл бұрын
Wait 2 years, gm usa will be building rhd for shipping
@alastairkay7688
@alastairkay7688 5 жыл бұрын
Think I’d buy a Mustang Bullitt 🧐
@alsigaroudi
@alsigaroudi 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve just test driven the Camaro and Mustang , back to back in Newcastle, and as a chevy fan since my childhood( I used to own a z28 1978) , I should say, the price for this camaro is Stupid! Honestly speaking mustang is more fun to drive with a touch better quality , yet 30 grands cheaper( the asking price for camaro is 96000) . It’s also stripped off of all goodies like MRD,.. Holden is a funny company, after all those years of squeezing chevy motors into Opels and call them muscle cars, now they are selling an almost base camaro with such a hefty price!
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
luxury car tax $6000
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Bmw m2 pure luxury car tax $8000 / $27000 in taxes to Government
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 6 жыл бұрын
I really couldnnot give a fiddlers fuck what the internet says about cars. But that new camaro and mustang they are awesome rides.
@officertnation7716
@officertnation7716 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to replace Chev badge with the HSV Badge?
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
Mustang Gt premium performance manual $40000usd / 2ss auto $47000usd without taxes . If it was Rhd from factory it wouldn't be as cheap as the Mustang anyway , since Camaro 2ss has luxury car tax 33% . Price difference Rhd will be $10000 in Australia
@Rumpig1978
@Rumpig1978 Жыл бұрын
So its top dollar for a cheap conversion. You'd think they would start at the centre console, turns me to stop looking if they cheaped out on the little things hows the big stuff you cant see
@darkwarrior9743
@darkwarrior9743 6 жыл бұрын
I'll wait for the 2019 model
@automandan
@automandan 6 жыл бұрын
Proper good vehicle. Now all GM needs to do is build the car in Australia like Ford does with the Mustang instead of a conversation kit which cost more.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
In uk it's above $80000 in LHd
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Rhd conversion is $12000 / luxury car tax $3000 / orc + 3% stamp duty and dealer delivery tax the government slugs you with gst 10% aswell $9000
@kasifosman
@kasifosman 6 жыл бұрын
@Kev agree, where did Dan the Mopar Man get that impression, if GM were going to build cars in Australia, they would have stuck with the VE & VF which Holden invested $1 billion, why would you waste time building the Camaro, a car a 100 kg plus Aussie is going to have trouble climbing in and out of, US cars have always been useless when it comes to ergonomics, space efficiency and build quality!!!
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
Lhd 2ss is 43000 pounds in uk ' 53000 euros in Germany
@whitedogproductions6153
@whitedogproductions6153 6 жыл бұрын
Nice car but it needs to be available from Holden dealer and cut out the HSV price tag rubbish....centre console is crap that its not changed...
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
$19000 taxes blame Government / Rhd conversion is $12000
@vichetkim5533
@vichetkim5533 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Cameron is going to be a sales flop due to last minute after thought and design work leading to such right hand drive conversion taking price into consideration as shown with those cup holders and squeaky passenger side.
@potaka79
@potaka79 6 жыл бұрын
For the price it's not beating anything.
@mrx168
@mrx168 5 жыл бұрын
For the price, might as well just keep my VF SSV and supercharge it and you get the benefit of a practical large 4 door family car.
@lunch6360
@lunch6360 5 жыл бұрын
Practicality isn’t criteria when buying a car like this
@jameshopkinson9651
@jameshopkinson9651 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t waste my money on a converted Chevy it would never be as good as a factory built car. It’s sad we don’t have Aussie built cars coming from the factory anymore much better value for money GM has shown it doesn’t give a shit about the Aussie market
@maverick8296
@maverick8296 5 жыл бұрын
The exterior looks a little simple and cheap, not much curves and design to it, though it is a base model, I would go for the Mustang and get the manual and do something else with the 20k saving
@sunnyGsss
@sunnyGsss 3 жыл бұрын
Wish i could justify spending 100k ausd on one though . Good ol holden ve ss sedan is good enough for me at the moment
@jeffbarr5714
@jeffbarr5714 6 жыл бұрын
I have a HSV vehicle from new and am happy with it however this latest offering in my view falls far too short. Why not deliver factory right hand drive vehicles which no doubt would keep the cost down. Why are we being offered the old model, were they cheap due to over stock when new model released. The expected cost of the finished HSV vehicle is over the top, but I suppose HSV has to recoup their pre-conversion costs some how, why not pass it onto the consumer, back to my first point, why not deliver a factory right hand drive??? Like a lot of people, the conversion is a deal breaker for me, with the money being spent and the price we are being expected to pay why not flip over the console. I think I will put my money towards another vintage Indian motorcycle or pre-war Knuckle Head.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 жыл бұрын
Taxes on the car is $18000 lefty . in Usa mrsp retail price is without taxes why its heaps cheaper in Usa , Lhd drive one of these in uk is 45000 pounds , 1ss manual is 39000 pounds
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