2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback XSE Review | Shift Into Fun | Edmunds

[@Soh90]

You are the best thing that ever happened to Edmunds my friend. At first I thought this would be a disaster, but you knocked it out the park with all your cuteness, charm, and actual details about the car. I hate when people review cars and cry about what it’s not. Just review the car for what it is. And that is what you did. Bravo. The Corolla hatch isn’t perfect. But countless reviews have shown me that this car does a lot of things right. It’s shaping up to be a solid little car.

[@toddp7324]

I agree, she's fantastic.

[@hammer86_]

"You could hate fun and still like this car". Sold!

[@500features]

Statement of the century!

[@LookingGlass24]

Great line! 👍🏼 She has some clever comments throughout the video, like, “ for 25 grand this car is well dressed!” Ahhh, she killed it! I don’t like that many women reviewers because some don’t sound that knowledgeable, but this gal knocked it outta the park!

[@Acc0rd79]

The color and the fact that it comes in a manual are the best things about this car.

[@maryreed2280]

So.glad Toyota has not gone the turbo route. Best decision ever.

[@Baseshocks]

I agree, it is all about the commuter that is a little fun that is all about preservation of the engine.

[@Deschain-um7jz]

I’m 2 years into owning this car and I wish I could turbo it. Haha

[@janikakis]

Look! Her nailpolish matches the car color!

[@bigneasy2106]

Good eye lol she does it for every one

[@smitty2jones]

I'd rather have a 170 hp NA than 200 HP turbo, but I tend to keep my cars for a long time and want them to be reliable.

[@bobdylan9117]

that is right, turbo engines and longterm reliability don't go well together.

[@HOTPLATEGAMING]

Glad Toyota is sticking to NA for now.

[@masonfamily6124]

Toyota is one of the very few in this segment that uses both direct injection and port injection. What this does is keep the intake valves clean Many other manufactures are having problems with this. Honda is getting fuel in the oil on it's 1.5l turbo

[@hellcatdave1]

@@bobdylan9117 Turbochargers don't really affect reliability at all- unless the turbo is garbage, or the car is being pushed to its limits...actually, turbos are beneficial.

[@bobdylan9117]

@@hellcatdave1 well, you have a much more complicated mess under the hood which means more things to break and have to work right. You have the extra wear on the oil and the internals of the engine(customer will have to be religious about maintenance), the extra hoses for the intake plumbing will need to be replaced at a costly amount(because they different sizing on each end and extra ports on them), more sensors and complicated sensors because of the flip-flopping vacuum to pressure, yes and you said it, the actual turbo which will likely fail before the engine and be expensive. I guess these are some of the reasons that the reliability studies show much worse for turbo cars than N/A and also why Toyota is slow to adopt because they depend so much on reliability for their brand.

[@dygardion9130]

This corolla engine will hold up twice as long as those other turbo engines!

[@JL-is9rg]

"Where was this when I was learning to drive stick?" Indeed. Great review. Good job.

[@gm2256]

Just got this exact car. Your review is one of them that sold me on the car. Thanks Elana & Edmunds! 6-speed is very fun :)

[@toyota420xp]

I think the back looks better than the front

[@ronaldtarwater2094]

Firs time I ever heard a Corolla stick shift described as fun, Know what? I think you've convinced me.

[@TheSjuris]

Had a 82 Corolla Tercel. I called it the Tercel SS. Beat lots of better cars.

[@LookingGlass24]

Great video! I own this hatch and have been loving it beyond my expectations! It was my Christmas gift so I named him NightStar! (Mine is the Blizzard White Pearl with tinted windows)! I feel like Batgirl when I’m in it! Hehehe

[@baritone05]

Knocked another one out of the park, Elana. You’re a natural.

[@jeffmorse645]

I learned to drive on a five speed Toyota, but it was in a rural area. When I moved to the Bay Area the stop and go traffic on the freeways drove me nuts. My next car was an automatic and it was so much more relaxing on crowded freeways.

[@maryreed2280]

Yes true and easier to resell too. I keep cars a long time so the reliable manual makes sense. I'm in SoCal. I recall only one time stuck on fwy wishing for an auto. Four hour back up.

[@clairekennedy8767]

My friends Honda Civic coupé has the same stick shift features! He loves it, and whenever we hangout I beg to drive his car. I’m looking forward to driving this car, it’s a bit of a shame that Toyota made the car so much smaller than the sedan, if it was the same length and an inch or two taller it would easily have 20+ cubic feet of trunk space.

[@ALMX5DP]

Toyota makes a wagon (Fielder?) that is a similar length to the sedan, but it's not available in the US unfortunately.

[@AJ-xm4xc]

Yes, more storage space would be nice.

[@AJ-xm4xc]

I had a ‘93 civic manual. No hill assist. Always scared the people behind me.

[@clairekennedy8767]

Alan Bowers I’m aware but that doesn’t help for here

[@kenkozawa9810]

iMT is indeed normal rev matching like that in the 370Z, but the most amazing thing about the stick, which Elana missed to point out ;), is that the adaptive cruise control does not get turned off when using the clutch to switch between gears. I hope this sort of software logic becomes standard across the industry so that we see a resurgence in manuals!

[@wheatona]

My ‘88 Corolla FX-16 GTS was a total blast. Manual trans. Super low gearing. Very quick around town, heavily bolstered sport seats, alloys, and weighed almost nothing. So yes, they did make a fun FWD Corolla back in the day. Short of real world terrible back seat room, this would be a fun usable hatch for a couple or those with small kids.

[@rightlanehog3151]

You made great points and provided an excellent history lesson as well. Not only did they make that fun, FWD Corolla but they made it just a few miles from where this video was shot in California. As others have debated since this new hatch debuted, the Camry's 200 hp engine would give this a nice shot of extra thrust without turbo worries.

[@1northsparrow246]

"Real world terrible back seat room," Other than that it is great.

[@TheSjuris]

@@rightlanehog3151 they made it on the same assembly line as the Chevy Nova and Geo Storm. That plant is now Tesla.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@TheSjuris I think it was the Geo Prizm.

[@TheSjuris]

@@rightlanehog3151 hard to remember who made which Geo model.

[@dirtyberry2120]

I put red reflectors lengthwise in the fake exhaust outlets. I bought inexpensive self sticking rectangular reflectors at the autos supply and cut them lengthwise and stuck them inside the chrome outlets. They look great and factory perfect on my Black Hatchback XSE.

[@AJ-xm4xc]

Good reviewer. She knows her stuff.

[@emacemacii]

$25000 is perfectly normal. Just look how expensive everything are these days. Parents got my brother a then-new 2001 Civic LX for $13200 and those days are long gone. It's inflation at work. Let's not forget these 2019 "Econoboxes"are made and equipped like entry-level luxury car 10 years ago. Thank's for the refreshing review.

[@ALMX5DP]

agreed. Dont forget too that the base Corolla hatch starts at under $20k which is incredible value. The XSE adds some style a few appointments and infotainment pieces, but still starts at under $23k. If there are any incentives, even that could be hugely attractive.

[@emacemacii]

@@ALMX5DP Yes. I also wish Toyota put the 2.5 engine in the XSE. I don't think the manufacturing cost will increase very much. It's not like adding a turbo. If they put the 8AR turbo 4 pot into this Corolla that will drive the price up too far. But the extra 500c.c. will wake up this little "warm" hatch perfectly.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@emacemacii It would definitely make it a torquey hatch, that's for sure. I'd like to see that combo. Dont think it'll happen, but Toyota is pretty conservative, so doubtful.

[@ALMX5DP]

mojo I agree, not sure why you thought I held a different perspective.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@emacemacii It would cost Toyota virtually nothing to offer the 2.5 as an option. Car & Driver testing showed the 2.5 Camry got better highway mpg than the new Corolla hatch so consumers could expect a nice bump up in power without a downside in fuel economy. It wasn't that long ago that the Corolla XRS could be optioned with the Camry's 2.4 so who knows what the sporty Toyota Motor Corporation of today might come up with.

[@abnergaldos8695]

Your stright out honest, I like that.

[@derekchan7646]

Haven't seen her before on a review and really really liked her. Good job! Searching for the nav voice complaint was kinda weak. I get car electronics don't have the best user interfaces. Which is Almost all car brands these days. But I really felt like you were really forcing the case with the navigation audio. There's gotta be a more compelling example you could have highlighted to make your point Loved this though!! Looking forward to seeing more from you!!

[@rightlanehog3151]

What a fine review and a welcome new perspective. This car will be much more appreciated as a major upgrade from a Yaris hatch rather than a direct replacement for earlier Toyotas like the Matrix. The new hatch simply lacks the practical capacity and adaptability offered by previous generations of Toyotas and Scions. As many already know, Toyota offers a FUN and fully functional Corolla wagon in Europe that eliminates all the shortcomings and compromises built into this hatch. Kudos for the call to choose the manual version. Around the world manuals are driven in all sorts of conditions only Americans treat them with fear and loathing. #Savethemanuals #SaveTheWagon #SaveHandBrakes

[@LookingGlass24]

Right Lane Hog I own this car and have all the practical capacity and adaptability I need. Your comment may be accurate for some folks, but not a whole bunch of people who love it. I used to own a 2014 VW Sportswagon Diesel TDI and I don’t miss anything about it except for the acceleration/HP and fuel economy that makes a Diesel so unique. Mine did better fuel economy than a Prius. But this little hatch is much more peppy and has a symbiotic effect with its driver. Makes one feel like one with the road. I rented the new Mazda 3 stick in Washington DC last week, and tho it does have more HP/torque than this one-it was imbalanced in so many ways. Felt Heavy, and not in a good way. Visibility wasn’t great; handling was stiff and it dragged the first two seconds after accelerating. I was really shocked at how much it disappointed me. I had it for 5 days. When I got back home and picked up my Corolla hatch it was like night & day. Truly, I’m loving my hatch!

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@LookingGlass24 Thanks for the detailed feedback. It is very telling to see that you refer to your new car as "this little hatch" after previously owning a VW Sportwagen. Clearly you desired a much more compact car and Toyota delivered on your specific consumer preference. The hatch is a very sound design with many positive attributes. I am certain the new Corolla sedan will be impressive as well but I want the third option to have VW Sportwagen space with Toyota QDR as is offered in other markets. In other words, Toyota customers in North America ought to have compact sedan, hatch and wagon options just like VW buyers. If VW can do it, Toyota can do it better. Happy trails. #ConsumerChoice #WeWantWagons

[@soiceyboy33]

Who is this lady? I really like her reviews! At first glance, she doesn’t look like she would know about cars, but over and over again, she surprises me. Great job! She makes me actually want to test drive this. I’ve been trying to learn how to drive a manual transmission for a while now....seems like the perfect starting place.

[@ALMX5DP]

Her name is Elana, she's from motortrend an a real car person (especially Mopars).

[@carlmanu]

Alan Bowers motortrend? What’s going on with them? First Carlos now Elana?

[@ALMX5DP]

@@carlmanu yup, not sure why both jumped ship, though I think Elana still may have a role there. Either way as long as their happy. MT to me seems like it tried to expand quite quickly and didnt have room for some of these very capable and presenter friendly journos.

[@oambrosia]

I think they were booted as a part of the merger with Discovery Channel. They really dumped some good talent unfortunately.

[@vluu80]

I was worried about the lack of handbrake and wondered how to tackle hills without it. Thank you for including the part about how the hill hold assist works.

[@rightlanehog3151]

I still want a handbrake.

[@keltonjohnson6197]

It's not hard. You just have to get good at shifting your manual fairly quickly on hills. You really shouldn't be using your handbrake all the time when driving a manual anyways cause that's just a bad habit and wears out the emergency brake cables 😀

[@keltonjohnson6197]

I'm not sure if letting out the clutch a little to hold when you start on a hill damages a clutch although that does work too. Maybe someone else can chime in on if that wears out your clutch.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@keltonjohnson6197 Who said anything about using it all the time? My car is 14 years old and I have not worn out the emergency cables yet.

[@GHinWI]

yeah...how can it turn without handbrake??? :)

[@j_merlotte5467]

EXCELLENT review - one of the best on the corolla XSE hatch. This car really intrigues me. I haven't owned a slow fun car, always quick/fast fun cars which can get old quickly.

[@revnto7k]

I really want to love this car, but I am still not sold on the interior space. I think the Civic has a nicer interior even down to the layout and choice of materials. (Too much piano black in this car) and no Android auto in 2019 is just plain weird. (I'm a forever Google user) Although on the flip side at almost 7KRPM redline and 6MT is really awesome. Glad to see Toyota helping save the manuals.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Most of us want to love this car but it is around a foot shorter than the Civic hatch! When seen as the halfway point in Toyota's global portfolio between the Corolla sedan and Corolla wagon the new hatch makes perfect sense. When viewed as our only 'practical' alternative to the sedan it leaves us wanting.

[@williammmmmmmmm]

that downshift sound effect lol

[@itsmekenlai]

Good review. A lot of details about actual usage of the car rather than that it drives nice and handles great.

[@Mamo878]

Cool review bro. Thanks for giving deers about the manual transmission and the everyday experience with it in real life.

[@doccyber]

Mamo who is the bro?

[@clairekennedy8767]

I love this chick, let’s hangout and chat about cars!

[@plk7592]

that conversation would dry up in a hurry. without cue cards or a monitor screen to read from, she wouldn't have much to say about cars.

[@Mushroomancer]

She can drive a manual. I would say she can talk about cars.

[@clairekennedy8767]

Paul Knauf you know her personally?

[@oambrosia]

@@plk7592 Correction as she loves classic cars (mainly MOPAR).

[@LookingGlass24]

Paul Knauf I’m a female Principal engineer (2 engineering degrees) and a car enthusiast and I know more about cars, engines and aerodynamics than many men. Some Women’s knowledge may just surprise you.

[@doughboy334]

save the manuals!

[@nessHappening]

doughboy334 lost art my friend 😔

[@deu8894]

nice review. you make me wanna drive a stick shift again

[@GeronimoJenkins]

Weeeinngg DING DING POP POP POP POP!

[@joelthorne7434]

Outstanding review! I’m a male but appreciate a female point-of-view. Very thorough, intelligent and practical look at the car.

[@anthonyrosa5006]

How did we ever survive without crapple car play or all that safety garbage (that some people need so they can play with their phones rather than actually drive). I have an idea. Since the crapple carplay port is on the passenger side, people like her should be happier as a passenger. This would make the rest of the world much safer.

[@wilfredbao9998]

I have this car with CVT, it's not bad, but I really regret not trying out the manual... especially after this review

[@rightlanehog3151]

It isn't too late to switch.

[@dak85016]

Great review, Elana!

[@darrellyelity3648]

One thing I don’t like is that you can’t get the JBL sound system with the manual.

[@letsgotomarsman]

Darrell Yelity thats odd

[@Sacto1654]

I want to see what Toyota does with the 2020 Corolla XSE sedan when that comes out probably by the end of March 2019. Hopefully, it'll have the 2019 Corolla Hatchback's sportier feel but with a bit more sound insulation from the engine.

[@rightlanehog3151]

We will be finding out any day when the preview videos are released.

[@maryreed2280]

Manuals are much more reliable. Every automatic I've owned has had to be rebuilt. Never had a problem with a manual. I won't own an automstic.. And yes, you can still eat and drink while driving a manual. Commuting in stop and go freeway traffic? Just gauge the average speed and maintain it. Let the automatic drivers stop and start. Use the brakes as little as possible.

[@hobbinshotrods6051]

How fun! Thanks, Elana!

[@keithruhl3545]

Great review by a great car enthusiast. Well done.

[@RexCars1]

Great review

[@WILLKent8]

I think she was on an episode of the Smoking Tire podcast. Also, I did enjoy the review. Keep up the awesome work!

[@Myiata1979]

This girl is a good reviewer!

[@redmusichouse]

Great review!

[@dsgrts]

Bring the station wagon PLEASE!!

[@rightlanehog3151]

Please send that message to Toyota.

[@ab348]

Great review, Elana. At least you found a way to adjust the nav system voice volume even though it took 5 steps. I've never been able to figure out how to do that in my ATS. But then again, I seem allergic to nav systems in general.

[@stevend3753]

This is in no way comparable to the Civic SI, but it is to the Civic Sport.

[@Pete856]

Looks like a nice car, but still a little small. I'm only here because I had the misfortune today of driving a 2013 Corolla from the local Toyota dealer while they worked on my car. What a boring car the 2013 model is with it's CVT (transmission), cramped interior, hard to read speedo and gauges....the mid 90s Camry I use to have would put it to shame.

[@aliali-ce3yf]

good review - this is the first review i've seen that mentions the hold button -- and that is HUGE. I am now seriously considering buying this car. plus i've heard this clutch is better than the gt 86

[@maryreed2280]

They must have sold out the base model 2019s. Only SE available on the web site now. Nice to see it's popular.

[@93455Driver]

They could have got more out of that trunk and maybe tidied up the rear design.

[@rightlanehog3151]

They did all those things with the new Corolla Wagon sold in Europe.

[@93455Driver]

Noted the wagon in Car & Driver, nicely done but that is a lot more space than the hatch. Reads like they are hybrid wagons in Europe.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@93455Driver They have 2 hybrid options as well as a gasoline engine with a manual. Along with the hatch and wagon, they are also getting a Corolla sedan across Europe for the first time in a long time.

[@satoshinakamoto3342]

I always go half clutch if I am on a steep hill and the car has enough pick up to not roll in reverse. Classy review though!

[@HawkSea]

Looks like the old Mazda 3 lol

[@alansmilealot]

Those were some nice looking hatches

[@robertgal1301]

TOYOTA IS THE BEST

[@NaijaBull]

This is not a competitor to the Civic Si lol. It is a competitor to the Civic Hatch with it's 174hp. The Si performance gap is too wide for it to compete.

[@komodowagon7164]

Did you paint your nails to match the car??????????????????????

[@cedric182]

What a good video.

[@francoisvelentino4085]

I just leased a corolla hatchback standard 2019

[@maryreed2280]

What trim level?

[@SupremeChief1]

Mary Reed probably the SE

[@elementkx]

she's a cool reviewer. nice and upbeat. I wanted to see more drifts though. whats up with that???

[@derekintrovert5619]

Mr Mok aggressive driving wears out a vehicle

[@jjlovelord]

The back seat and the trunk is really small

[@rightlanehog3151]

I would love to see a side by side comparison with a Yaris hatch. I have a feeling there would be minimal difference.

[@ChessBoxin]

@4:00 I think the idea behind the audio volume for directions separate is so you can choose to have it muted and your music loud or vise versa. I experienced this in my 2003 Celica today when I choose to use Google Maps on my phone with the auxiliary cable. For some reason when directions come up on the phone it's much louder through the voice of the directions compared to the music but you can't make it the other way around where the music loud and voice is lower. I could be wrong though...

[@jamesnicol3831]

excellent realistic review

[@CUMBICA1970]

7:39 HAHA Indeed this hill assist thing looks marvelous. See back then when I was getting my DL in Brazil like in 1990 pretty much 100% of normal cars were manuals. And stopping and starting in a hill was the one big hurdle to overcome. But for the past 25 years I've been living in Japan so all this time I didn't drive a manual. Maybe I should try this Corolla. I mean, until prices go down a little.

[@littlegreeny8510]

Great review! Nice car but seems a little expensive especially when you compare to a Civic Si.

[@ALMX5DP]

Regarding safety technology, it has a leg up on the Civic. Adaptive cruise, lane keep assist and forward collision warning and low speed braking being what i first thought of. It's also available in CVT which the Civic Si is not. And quite a bit cheaper if you dont get the XSE trim, which I think is just appearancy bits.

[@maryreed2280]

Civic SI is turbo though.

[@jamesnicol3831]

she is an excellent and knowledgeable car lady

[@MalachiEastling]

Nice video, well said.. Manual all the way too! I just purchased the 2019 civic.. The 6spd manual feels more like an automatic-- I'm not digging it so much to be honest.. I should have car shopped around a tad more.

[@BTC909]

Just take a sawzall behind the rear seats & start over. The 2020 Taco has AA so maybe their is hope for Android users.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Just call it the 2020 Yaris hatch and astound all the critics with the amazing upgrade.

[@Danny13243]

Hey that's Elana Scherr from the Roadkill series!

[@keltonjohnson6197]

Android auto is confirmed in new Tacoma (at least that is what TFL reported).

[@mugensamurai]

"Ta da it's a stick" oh my dirty mind...

[@oskarngo9138]

Do the back seats fold flat? Can one sleep in it when the Great Depression comes?

[@maryreed2280]

Yes, they do.

[@doccyber]

Real stick shift drivers don’t need hill assist. I’ve driven a stick shift in San Francisco and never rolled back. Nice review. This car needs a 200 hp motor to make it relevant.

[@ALMX5DP]

Also having driven in SF many times, hill assist would have been nice, especially in rush hour. And it really doesnt need more HP. It's a fine balance of utility, affordability and performance.

[@doccyber]

Utility ? Yes. Reliability? Yes. Performance? A big FAT NO!

[@ALMX5DP]

@@doccyber I said balance of, not outright. I had tons of fun in my Mk1 Focus with around 160hp. Track days, autocrosses, daily driving and backroads were a blast. People online either dont like ringing out their vehicles when turns are involved or just look at numbers. There's more to a car than the individual parts that make it up. For the price, this is plenty fun but obviously the market has a lot of good offerings right now so cant go wrong any way you choose.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@ALMX5DP Why can't we have the 2.0 and 2.5 engine options? While they are at it, they might as well give us the Hybrid they are selling overseas.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@rightlanehog3151 If it made financial sense for them to do so, I'm sure we'd see those options and models. But as you know people tend not to put their money where their mouth is, so like many cool cars that have died off, I'd bet this would be such a case.

[@Toyota4Life]

Who the hell is this lady ? Anyway I love this new XSE Corolla.

[@hobbinshotrods6051]

6spd FTW!

[@Tool0GT92]

I just got this same exact car last weekend for under $21k and it has android auto for 2020.

[@motormusique]

Honestly there are much more than enough white guys reviewing cars..great to see a woman doing so. Women make up half of car buyers so having their perspective is important

[@pontiacGXPfan]

this car was designed for short women who have to sit near to the wheel

[@H0LDENSUX]

$25 Grand is too steep for a Corolla hatch. That's price is more appropriate for a Corolla wagon if Toyota wasn't too stingy to make it available in its global product line.

[@rightlanehog3151]

I would like to see that Corolla wagon offered here with the 2.5 from the Camry. A 6 speed manual or the Carmry's 8 speed automatic would make it Toyota's very own SportWagon. Naturally they could offer the Hybrid too.

[@YouAreBreathing]

So, what you're saying is that the car with a manual transmission is so easy to drive, even someone who hasn't learned how to drive a car with a manual transmission (only in video games) can drive it?

[@rightlanehog3151]

It takes a few hours and some patience at the beginning. It positively transforms the entire driving experience with increased engagement and control.

[@alansmilealot]

Yes, I'm sure these new manuals are easier. The clutch pedals are so much lighter, there hill hold assist, this car have automatic rev matching. I was teaching my friend how to drive my 94 manual Corolla, and he stalled a bunch of time and them managed to drive off a few times. The new cars spoil the drivers

[@WhiteKitta]

stick shift is ONLY fun if the car carries a lot of power...

[@ashneel]

Please make a hot version Toyota

[@alecw7063]

This girl reminds me of the main girl from my big fat Greek wedding

[@pontiacGXPfan]

Nia Vardalos

[@mauricio6216]

I Luke this reviewer

[@johnnyneris]

Get you someone who will pose in that position of your hatchback like she is! @ 5:20

[@lawiez]

you said porsche right! i shall finish the video

[@kecleonboi]

I wonder if it’s still fun if just get the automatic

[@MrEdwardCollins]

Does that view screen flip down when not in use, or does it permanently stick up like that?

[@calebgwin1342]

1:37 she says as it cuts to a view of the extremely gray interior.

[@canadaboycanada3620]

The grill is totally ugly.

[@ctrsom]

manual for the win..👍🏽

[@kakashi99908]

Buy a used matrix people

[@rightlanehog3151]

Great call.

[@12skits63]

Scotty who?

[@maryreed2280]

Too many miles on the odometers. Hard to find in manual.

[@LukeO-1234]

As you said mazda 3 a white sedan drives by you

[@gothops154]

The rear is a lot like an older Mazda 3

[@Toyota4Life]

gothops154 no it doesn’t this is way more aggressive and edgy

[@salemsaberhagen8390]

25g is overpriced can get ex crv for that

[@maryreed2280]

No manual option on Rav4.

[@joehammond2586]

Nice car, great color, needs a sunroof.

[@maryreed2280]

Take my word for it, you do not want a sun roof.

[@TheSjuris]

@mojo it might fry her tin foil hat.

[@porsche558]

“My friends showed up in Porsches so I think they know what a good interior is.”, yup and my friends wife is a secretary for a dentist so she should be able to preform dental surgery.

[@ALMX5DP]

quite dissimilar analogies.

[@porsche558]

@@ALMX5DP I think not as both analogies exhibit the same flawed logic.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@porsche558 How so? One is directly related to someone's opinion on interior design and aesthetic based on a previous purchase, and one (yours) is just an associative relation based on where someone happens to work.

[@bhart2408]

The Civic SI is about $3k more.

[@edmaluf]

The gauges are hideous. They look like a Chinese car's from the 80's.

[@JC.72]

Chinese made cars in the 80s ?!?! Lol