2020 VS 2021 SUPRA..(Which one should you buy?)

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Thic Whips

Thic Whips

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@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
One correction: I misspoke on the oil consumption thread poll. It’s the opposite of what I stated: 45% have reported that they DO NOT have the issue while 21% of people say that they do. My bad on the mixup! Thanks for watching Update: when the 2021 ecu does become tunable I will make an update video as well so you all know. LINK TO MY SUPRA BUILD SHEET: tinyurl.com/2wfc3632 MODIFICATIONS FROM ALL OF MY BUILDS: www.thicwhips.com All of my Wheel & Tire Setups: tinyurl.com/yyftysns
@jmccarsnmore1025
@jmccarsnmore1025 3 жыл бұрын
If you can swap the 2021 head to the 2020 block, why not swapping the 2020 pistons to the 2021 block?? What if the 2020 ECU could also be swapped to the 2021??
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I think for starters all of these parts you are talking about are going to cost a lot right now because these cars are very new. But furthermore, the amount of work any of that would take I don’t think is really worth it. When you can just buy the one that has zero issues from the Jump and is tunable. Not to mention, the 2021s wound have voided warranties left and right if you began pulling engines apart. I don’t think the head swap is worth it in general but who knows
@jmccarsnmore1025
@jmccarsnmore1025 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips For sure bro. But since you mentioned the head swapping, I went I little bit farther with the part swapping 😂 In all honestly, getting new pistons and rings will probably be cheaper than getting a whole engine head, imo. And, do you think Toyota will release a Supra with the S58 engine??
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t know, I’ve heard the rumors but we all know how that goes. I would love to see it though, s58 is just insane
@jmccarsnmore1025
@jmccarsnmore1025 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips That would be amazing, and I can’t wait to see it, cause I don’t think I could afford it!! 😂
@willanderson5366
@willanderson5366 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I actually bought the '21 3.0 Premium, but without the intention of tuning. I've already got my scars of perpetually broken racecars. :P But I think you keep a really balanced opinion and deliver a lot of good info in here!
@TStrait21
@TStrait21 3 жыл бұрын
Jon your content and delivery has gotten so good man. Harder to appreciate when you see it happen slowly over time but it's crazy when compared to your videos from two plus years ago
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother
@josephcarver71
@josephcarver71 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 2021 A91 Refraction Blue Edition. 23,000 miles on it. No oil consumption issues. Eventuri intake and Engine cover, FTP Charge Pipe, CG Downpipe and plenty of carbon fiber inside and out. Only thing left until tune is the catback. That will be soon. Spoke with someone inside Titan Motorsports and it would appear that they are getting very very close to cracking the 2021 ECU and told me to expect a big announcement soon. My ECU build date is 6/1/2020. I provided my CAL ID and from what I have been told by Speed Industry it can not be unlocked yet. Thanks for the ECU cf cover info.....been looking for that. One issue that I have identified is the abnormal inside wear of my front tires.....I know ....I know...and yes I have already taken it in to the best wheel and tire place in Columbus, Ohio. Great people do a great job and really know their stuff. After evaluation the wheels tires and alignment. They found no issues except marked inside wear of those front. They said no way to make any adjustments at this time until Toyota comes up with a solution. Took this to Toyota and of course they just threw up their hands......no surprise there. Really love this car but don't really want to replace tires so frequently because of this. So here's my take on this.....Yes the 2021 will get unlocked and be turnable...probably sooner than many think and yes the tuned 2021 will ultimately make more power than the 2020.....I am guessing at least 50 more whp......so can you wait? Well I can. I am a physician who watched all of his friends buy homes, cars, travel etc. while I was starving and up to $100,000 in debt....back then we called it deferred gratification.....it worked fine for me then considering where I am at these days and will work just as well with the 2021 Supra. I really do appreciate your balanced approach to things and look forward to sharing with you. Anyone else with the tire wear issues?
@topzki47
@topzki47 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man how’s the reliability of your Supra so far? Thinking about getting but want to go brand new instead of used 2020
@josephcarver71
@josephcarver71 2 жыл бұрын
@@topzki47 It is exceptionally reliable. I have no oil consumption issues at all and I have 37,000 miles on it at this time. Soon will get garaged for weekend only driving. I did break it in properly and I strongly suspect the oil consumption issues are related to those who just can't wait...and don't correctly break it in....take the plunge you will not regret it. Good luck
@topzki47
@topzki47 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephcarver71 sounds good man 37k miles is alot. even with the Z coming i still prefer how the supra looks!
@steventemple2514
@steventemple2514 2 жыл бұрын
How did you go about your break in period? Did you follow manufacture recommended? I’ve read that you don’t want to baby it but you you also don’t want to beat on it. ex. WOT from 2k-4.5k. Keeping it in that recommend rev range but also making sure you’re getting into boost.
@ronin120
@ronin120 2 жыл бұрын
mind if I ask how old you are? Been thinking about the Supra or M2 (I like both cars...have yet to test drive either one...no surpas or M2s in my area). I am 45 and am digging the size of the Supra, but worry I may look too old for the car if that makes sense? Do you think it is a younger person's car? Similar to the CLA45 AMG (younger buyer) as opposed to the C63 AMG (older buyer)?
@HayateV3
@HayateV3 3 жыл бұрын
I know this may not really matter, but YOU are the one who convinced me to look more into the MK5 Supra. After watching some of your videos, I was set on test driving one. The day of the test drive, one appeared in my garage. I have a 2021. I’ll tune it after the warranty is up (with the new crack) but until then I’m just here to enjoy her.
@_M3NACE_
@_M3NACE_ 3 жыл бұрын
All the ECU’s crack eventually
@jasin1441
@jasin1441 2 жыл бұрын
Or we change them out for stand-alones
@ahunnidlionsinhim
@ahunnidlionsinhim 2 жыл бұрын
why did I read this in Thanos' voice
@jasin1441
@jasin1441 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahunnidlionsinhim because I'm actually Thanos
@batman-telephoneman5479
@batman-telephoneman5479 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasin1441 because you are all man-child's and should cringe at it.
@jeffsteyn7174
@jeffsteyn7174 2 жыл бұрын
No. This isn't Netflix.
@beastleontv7595
@beastleontv7595 3 жыл бұрын
has become my fav channel over the last few days loving it
@henryz9988
@henryz9988 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen from A90 Supra owners, very good talk. Thanks bro.
@danielclark1003
@danielclark1003 3 жыл бұрын
Caught the mod bug back in 95, even Valtrex can't get rid of it ... gr8 content ... best looking BMW out there !
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo
@ChokolateSushi23
@ChokolateSushi23 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when the R35 GT-Rs ecu was “uncrackable” when they first came out, and they cracked it pretty quickly. The 21 Supra’s ecu will be cracked in time. Personally I don’t think that should be a deterrent for somebody. I feel like the upgrades the 21 has would be worth it
@jvb6961
@jvb6961 3 жыл бұрын
The new fenders look too good 🔥🔥
@godrive6902
@godrive6902 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! Well put together
@Chrisstian111
@Chrisstian111 3 жыл бұрын
Just a great comparison. Thank you. 😀
@ayyyman_
@ayyyman_ 3 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful! I'm planning on getting a Supra very soon. Just waiting for the right deal
@peterr5243
@peterr5243 3 жыл бұрын
Can I ask u how much u putting down and monthly payments u plan to get in looking to get one as well
@njskater360
@njskater360 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterr5243 Next year I'm going to be in the market again. Looking at a supra and GTR R35. If I do pick a supra would be 2020. I'll be putting down 10k-15k depends on the deal I get on the supra.
@willymahmoud3373
@willymahmoud3373 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids bro, awesome car keep killing it 👍🏻
@Kai240i
@Kai240i 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 m240i 6 port exhaust manifold 1st gen b58 with 32k miles mhd stage 2. I put in 7 liter of 0w30 oil in, drove and race for 1 whole year 4k miles later, change the oil and still 7 liter of relatively clean oil came out. Not even 1 pint of oil was consumed, amazing!!! I think just the new 2021 supra having that issue, probably due to their new piston rings design or just a bad batch of rings and pistons.
@thebritish910
@thebritish910 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, speed limit 35 sign in the opening sequence haha. Another great video sir, thank you!
@turqazo
@turqazo 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed ,great video on info.✊
@derwinjax
@derwinjax 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ride. What wheel and tire size are you running. I see too many quickly put bigger rims and wafer thin tires. Yours looks great!
@Joolz1982
@Joolz1982 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for engine screen shot. We cannot get the 2021 GR Supra in the U.K sadly at the moment, so will get a 2020 also those oil burning issues on 2021 concern me, but seems erratic between one 2021 car and another it does mention oil burning in the Owners manual though someone has shown. BMW usually oil burn generally though right as you said.
@buqueretrofittinganddetail6224
@buqueretrofittinganddetail6224 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of your exhaust bro it's epic 👌👌love it
@jonathanbarrientos9151
@jonathanbarrientos9151 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought my 21' 3.0 premium in black with the carbon fiber mirror caps and I love it! This video is what convinced me to get it
@ronin120
@ronin120 2 жыл бұрын
I have never modded a car before so the 2021/22 would be fine for me. I would like to make some cosmetic mods (wheels, tint, splitters, and such), and maybe some bolt items such as charge pipe, intake, and any other preventative items. I already know the car is pretty fast stock so not too worried about that. Side note, I discovered your change about 4 days ago and have enjoyed your M2 and Supra builds. I am actually trying to decide between the two myself. If you had to chose one, which did you enjoy driving and owning more?
@TheKrumpet69
@TheKrumpet69 3 жыл бұрын
I got lucky and happened to buy an earlier manufactured '21 (built 3/20) and it has no oil consumption issues so far (it is a 3.0 base...so not premium; pricing on the base model was very lucrative...well under 50k in the winter for a brand new base 3.0)... I've been dailying mine and its killin me... 6k miles and I got it in Feb.
@mvaldez5626
@mvaldez5626 2 жыл бұрын
Is it still pretty bad ass? I m looking into one
@senseofstile
@senseofstile 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. It looks like a great car. I have read somewhere that there is no oil dipstick. Is that true?
@anthonyschluter8531
@anthonyschluter8531 3 жыл бұрын
No dip stick… that’s true. No BMW engine has a dipstick anymore.
@senseofstile
@senseofstile 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyschluter8531 That is a bad decision on their part. If something occurs with the engine, the first thing you do is look at the oil or also smell the oil. Also you can see if there is a possibility it could be overfilled. The really bad scenario is a shop might say they changed the oil but, didn't. You can't check the dipstick to verify. Or perhaps they made an honest mistake and "thought" they changed the oil. Again this creates a big problem. Without a dipstick, none of that troubleshooting can occur. Some people claim BMW are just disposable limited use autos. I guess without a dipstick, they are probably correct. Just lease one for a year. You shouldn't need a dipstick for that.
@skywalk3x
@skywalk3x 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Supra got it tuned through Ecutek and have had no issues with the oil consumption. I had to get it bench unlocked and it’s a crazy whip 😉
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Bussin
@24S650
@24S650 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job! The locked ECU’s are actually saving the warranties for those that would’ve tuned. I’m seeing consumption @3K, and knew about the issues beforehand, but the draw of that Refraction Blue was too strong to stay away. 😄
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that’s one way to look at it I suppose
@nicholaslong3010
@nicholaslong3010 3 жыл бұрын
How much are you burning? I got 3,700 and all I added was one liter.
@24S650
@24S650 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaslong3010 there’s a quarter left on the dipstick display till I get the low oil light.
@jkljkl218
@jkljkl218 3 жыл бұрын
When my friend bought his supra, this came straight from the dealer. If the car is tuned and modified, they said the warranty still covers it. Which surprised me and I kept asking and the man behind the desk said they cover everything. Even if you change your wheels, so long as they're the same spec wheels as the stock ones, they will cover that along with.
@myfavs1972
@myfavs1972 3 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to you getting the "pure" and your thoughts.
@baronv3
@baronv3 3 жыл бұрын
2021 Here. Proper break in with track use after 1200k. 7500k now, no problems so far. My buddy has a jb4 21 with 4k no issues with proper break in. We think the oil issues probably come from beating on the car too early, just our thoughts
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 жыл бұрын
Still going good? Im so torn, about to to get one very soon
@lyendba1
@lyendba1 2 жыл бұрын
Would you go for the jarama race track edition running the lower power to avoid the oil issue n if u wanted to map it asap, or wait and get the 2023 auto? Looking at it 12 months on…
@steinway325
@steinway325 3 жыл бұрын
As 2020 owners, we are a little biased. but when I was choosing between leftover 2020's vs new 2021, it was a no brainer for me based on all the reasons you mentioned. I actually don't even care to tune, i like the car as is stock. but that could be a selling point for resale. there's no guarantee that 2021s will ever be unlockable. And like you said, a modified 2021 isn't going to be WAY faster anyway. Better to just go with a sure thing. To boot, I got my 2020 with zero miles for 52k after TTL, when Toyota was still giving cash rebate
@dirklenaerts1628
@dirklenaerts1628 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, now I am confused. You are talking about the date on the ecu to see if it’s tunable. Here in Europe we only get the 340hp version. Even now in 2021 and the next years. The 380 hp version will not come to Europe. So if I buy a 2021 340hp, is it possible it can’t be tuned? Or is it just the 380hp’s ecu that is blocked ?
@noelnarayan6135
@noelnarayan6135 2 жыл бұрын
Thnx for vid. But just curious on a few things of the 2020 vs 2021. How different is the 6 port vs the 2 port? What does that mean for potential power/tq building goals if say the 2021 ecu was cracked and tuneable. Will the 2021 have the higher ceiling on the stock motor? Same question goes for other things you briefly mentioned, like the 2021 has different compression and pistons? If so, how will that also play a role in someone trying to get the most out of their stock motor 2020 vs 2021?
@TGUNNER777
@TGUNNER777 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know these things as well.
@uklmngubane5661
@uklmngubane5661 2 жыл бұрын
TW, Needs more subscribers , just like Kies, you guys work hard on these informative videos well done
@lIlIllll1
@lIlIllll1 3 жыл бұрын
For like the first 15 min I thought that hoodie was pure white LOL! Nice hoodie bro!
@biggusbestus551
@biggusbestus551 3 жыл бұрын
The 2020 makes sense from the standpoint that less power equals longer engine life. That is for someone that can be happy with the stock engine power of the 2020. I would rather upgrade the suspension and brakes for a starting point anyway. I enjoy a challenging road more than a 1/4 mile race, anyway ...
@JewishLewish
@JewishLewish 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2021 3.0 Premium brand new for 51.8 before taxes. Not in a rush to tune at all, but definitely hope its tune-able within the next year or two :)
@maxwellkeeling3781
@maxwellkeeling3781 3 жыл бұрын
I think this will give you time to really enjoy the car and it's current limits. Doing a few bolt-ons here and there if wanted, will give you a better step approach. Having this time will also help eck out any issues that can be covered under warranty!
@Southpark124
@Southpark124 3 жыл бұрын
Damn they scammed you bro, I got my '20 in 2020 for 49.5 w/ taxes.
@JewishLewish
@JewishLewish 3 жыл бұрын
@@Southpark124 the market is a bit different now, it was actually a good deal :)
@JewishLewish
@JewishLewish 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellkeeling3781 true!
@brianb7844
@brianb7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@JewishLewish Agreed! You got a good deal in the current environment.
@Lilbeefnoodlesoup
@Lilbeefnoodlesoup 3 жыл бұрын
what wheel specs and tires? i love that fitment
@Watcher369
@Watcher369 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 launch- its not that you have 0 issues, its that you are not consuming like this 2021s. Check your charge pipe, you will have some oil in there from the blowby. Every supra has this issue and catch cans do not help. That being said, I never had to add oil so there is definitely something up with the 2021s
@gman1008
@gman1008 2 жыл бұрын
What happened after your brake recall? Did the dealer reset your ECU and did you lose your tune? I just had my 2020 recall done but I haven’t tuned it yet and the dealer told me the recall didn’t lock the ECU. I have a launch edition and is the same color ext/int as yours. I love the car and I haven’t even moded it yet. Yes some of those forum discussions get freakin crazy. I just have to laugh at the ridiculousness to keep myself sane!
@303wrx
@303wrx 3 жыл бұрын
I got lucky with the DME in my 2021. It’s tuned with Ecutek and I’m hoping I don’t have any oil consumption issues down the road 😅
@DotcomJoe
@DotcomJoe 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky you. I’m locked 😭
@TherealGM4NN
@TherealGM4NN 3 жыл бұрын
Do you keep it sport mode all the time ?
@GlenJMorrison
@GlenJMorrison 2 жыл бұрын
Good video bro. I bought mine in August 2019 and considered upgrading until I found out I couldn't tune and the oil issue!! Your mods are sick...well done!!
@ronin120
@ronin120 2 жыл бұрын
his mods are awesome!
@_Mathias.
@_Mathias. 2 жыл бұрын
what for wheels are this on your supra looks sick
@RealEstateDad68
@RealEstateDad68 2 жыл бұрын
Who put on your steering wheel brother and where did you buy it? Link?
@peterwho9380
@peterwho9380 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car brother and she's done up exactly how I would want my Supra!
@heh2k
@heh2k Жыл бұрын
Where'd you get that steering wheel with the thumb impressions? I rented a '21 and it had stitching that was uncomfortable.
@blacktalonsport1262
@blacktalonsport1262 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I've always wanted to know the difference. I never knew about the DME tune abilities. Are less company's making turbo upgrades for the 6 port heads?
@justinwallace3848
@justinwallace3848 3 жыл бұрын
Without the ability to tune no company’s have made different turbos for the a91 as they would need to flash the DME to setup the car right for the tune
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
What? www.full-race.com/store/borg-warner-efr/manifolds-efr-series/2021-toyota-a91-supra-b58-6-port-top-mount-dual-ewg-turbo-manifold/?adpos=&scid=scplpwoocommerce_gpf_107721&sc_intid=woocommerce_gpf_107721&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp-r95JLF8AIVMvC1Ch35yAU_EAQYCSABEgIdwPD_BwE
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
There are aftermarket turbo options as well as hybrid turbo options already available for both 2020 and 2021 supras, as well as manifolds. Some of the 2021’s have pre 6/20 ecus meaning they are tunable.
@justinwallace3848
@justinwallace3848 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips oh, what I had seen was access to turbos but had troubles getting them properly setup to the car bc of the locked dme?
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
The majority of 2021’s cannot be tuned. But there are some already running big turbo setups. Just not nearly as many as the 2020s
@chrisc5100
@chrisc5100 Жыл бұрын
I would assume an ECU date of 6/17/19 is tuneable correct? Or does it have to be between 1/1/20 and 6/1/20
@dylanharty4164
@dylanharty4164 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as per usual man! Making me wanna trade my 340i for a 2020 Supra a little more every video
@ikakhazho
@ikakhazho 3 жыл бұрын
same 😂
@caelh3858
@caelh3858 2 жыл бұрын
What’s ur 0-60 & 1/4? Rlly interested in modding a Supra bc of u
@usmceric1
@usmceric1 Жыл бұрын
Is this the B58tu? I have a 2020 M340i with the updated motor before they went to the partial hybrid thingy. 6 port manifold.
@Rippseyy
@Rippseyy Жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the carbon fiber splitters all around?
@kckuc310
@kckuc310 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ride!
@laweeeee
@laweeeee 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the Acura 3.7 V6 and Nissan VQ are known to have oil consumption issues.
@skywalk3x
@skywalk3x 3 жыл бұрын
“May of 2021 and no crack” did try downtown lol
@dubsrevo
@dubsrevo 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I got my 2020. Still stock and just hit 8k miles, love the car. If 2021's dont get their shit together with Fast 9 coming out the 2020's value might shoot up
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 жыл бұрын
Lel too bad that movie wasnt even about modding cars😂
@CHICOBM
@CHICOBM 3 жыл бұрын
I know I said it before but I like your attitude bro, always positive no matter what. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
👊🏽
@mr.whatever2837
@mr.whatever2837 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 2021 Z4 has oil issues too.
@foca656
@foca656 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 Z4 M40i and it does.I have 14k in it and before the oil change I had to take it to the dealership for a free quart.I had a 06 M3 before and it took a quart always around 4K miles into the oil change.I am used to BMW engines.
@Baeza_5.0
@Baeza_5.0 Жыл бұрын
what website did you use to look at those used 2020 supras
@zddy869
@zddy869 2 жыл бұрын
hey man could you give some of your wheel specs please ?
@bigcatloverelys6405
@bigcatloverelys6405 Жыл бұрын
Oil consumption and 4 tires in almost 2 years, those have been my issues. I absolutely love the car. I was actually the first supra gr owner in Washington state, and I loved the attention the car had, well still getting lol. Question anybody knows what type of coolant the car uses?
@bpi537
@bpi537 3 жыл бұрын
This is the sickest fitment ive ever seen in a supra. Are you on coils?
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah kw v3
@theturkishrider
@theturkishrider 2 жыл бұрын
whatever you say , whether "high performance" or "german engines" ,filling up oil every 1000 miles is not normal at all. Saying that means all german engines(specifically bmw's) or high performance cars drains oil in same level as the supra. Thinking of Track only BMW S1000RR even does not drain oil that fast, I can easily say that 1000 miles oil drain is not normal. Does anyone actually know why it drains oil that fast? Is it because wrong grade of oil? I'd assume 5w30 or 5w40 can be suitable for 3L turbo engine. Or is it because something to do within the enigne? something to do with oil filter? Is there an issue with the coolant system? I'd love to know the reason why it drains oil as I am looking to get Supra.
@ricastar2931
@ricastar2931 Жыл бұрын
What’s your wheel and tire setup
@derwinjax
@derwinjax 3 жыл бұрын
800,000 plus hp….lol. That was hilarious! But I completely agree with ya’.
@suprasport9118
@suprasport9118 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to change the sound in between shifts?
@tigerbiterhater
@tigerbiterhater 3 жыл бұрын
As an A91 owner in Cali. I’m glad my ECU is lock. I won’t have the urge to try to mod. Plus , Cali smog and BARS no joke out here. It’s not even worth the headaches. Lmao.
@bman1668
@bman1668 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll stock a91 are pretty quick if u ask me the updated 2021 is quick car already runs 11.8 stock
@Daniel-ei5si
@Daniel-ei5si 6 ай бұрын
what part of cali you from?
@lallen968
@lallen968 3 жыл бұрын
why you chose this car over the bmw z4? any reason?
@abirmahmud1334
@abirmahmud1334 3 жыл бұрын
U should get some carbon mirror caps next it would look good 👌🏽
@alextasarov1341
@alextasarov1341 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize there was that much of a difference! The more you know
@fatehbawany9672
@fatehbawany9672 5 ай бұрын
how significant is the exhaust manifold difference?
@aswaggyferret4280
@aswaggyferret4280 Жыл бұрын
Those wheels look so good on that car 😍
@dbrr558
@dbrr558 3 жыл бұрын
Fav supra in CLT area
@fatguyonalittlebike3336
@fatguyonalittlebike3336 3 жыл бұрын
What are those front quarter panels??
@wil8115
@wil8115 2 жыл бұрын
Aug 2021, tuner in europe claims to have cracked it, but they only offer flash, send them ecu, they flash based on your mods, then send it back..
@shinymike4301
@shinymike4301 3 жыл бұрын
Typing this while listening to above video, so maybe you cover this, or have covered it in the past: Are you using the oem spec oil or did you go to something heavier?
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am using Liqui Molly 6600 0w-20. I use Liqui Molly in all of my cars. Best stuff out there!
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning I run e50 often, so my oil change intervals are pretty aggressive, every 3k miles or so
@jeconsta
@jeconsta 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you made this video 6 months ago, back in December I got my 2021 Supra. I thought the 21 was going to be better because of all the updates plus I couldn't find a good deal on a 2020
@TheStevenQ
@TheStevenQ 3 жыл бұрын
How much did you end up paying if you don’t mind me asking ? I’m looking to be in the market late this year, and doing some research now
@jeconsta
@jeconsta 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheStevenQ 56k
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeconsta 2020s are damn near the same price 😂
@bman1668
@bman1668 2 жыл бұрын
In the long run 21 will be better once ecu cracked also resell value 21 will be better with updated engine
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 жыл бұрын
@@bman1668 debatable. Oil consumption issues, and the ones that are unlocked and modded i heard are similar to modded 20s
@OG-Diamond
@OG-Diamond 2 жыл бұрын
so for auto 2020 supra can be modded? even though its automatic?
@Jbonly21
@Jbonly21 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, like the S55 and the crank hub issue 🤭.
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
2021 oil consumption issue is nothing like the crank hub issue. Sure, they are both “issues”..but similar? Not one bit
@Jbonly21
@Jbonly21 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips so is the crank hub really an issue, or is it just blown out off proportion?
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Crank hub is absolutely an issue, more so if you decide to tune
@readmposter
@readmposter 3 жыл бұрын
I think Bmw has a bad rep more so than anything. I just hit 130k in my N55 powered 335i and have had 0 issues. If you take care of it, it will last. If you neglect it, then like anything it will break. Run a Honda without changing your oil and see what happens....
@dannyllerenatv8635
@dannyllerenatv8635 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest man, I think BMW can just be hit or miss sometimes. They get a bad rap, but there are also plenty of them that have lasted long. For every horror story you hear with BMW, there are also BMWs that manage to live long lives. My mother has a 2015 X4 28i with plenty of miles on it and the car has been just fine without any issues. Yeah BMWs can have their issues, but sometimes you get lucky and find one that is hassle free.
@stayslidewayz
@stayslidewayz 3 жыл бұрын
hahah theirs a video on youtube the honda last with no oil or coolant they bullet proof 🤣🤣
@Cheiiba
@Cheiiba 2 жыл бұрын
Bad example with the Honda 🤣
@Bulk_Bullets
@Bulk_Bullets 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your steering wheel? Thats exactly the style i want.
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын
AzaAutoWheel
@Bulk_Bullets
@Bulk_Bullets 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips thanks!
@BFITY8
@BFITY8 3 жыл бұрын
So anything after 6-29-2020 is tune able ? Or anything before ?
@stephensilliman5173
@stephensilliman5173 3 жыл бұрын
Before.
@desiepintofigueroa
@desiepintofigueroa 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me on the Wheels and tires Specs please!!! Love this fitment for my 2022 🤤💪🏻
@lilmoesieable
@lilmoesieable 4 ай бұрын
Is it the same with the 2019 model that it is save like the 2020 model?
@miltistheog7452
@miltistheog7452 3 ай бұрын
Is the 2019 model the same as the 2020 model?
@davidtroxell7370
@davidtroxell7370 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased my A90 2 weeks after you did, and my 2021 has the oil consumption issue... I have changed the down pipe (still catted) and a full exhaust. The dealership wants to tell me that these changes have caused the issue. Either way this is why I have not tuned it. Plus I’m not sure if my car is tunable
@Danscapee
@Danscapee 3 жыл бұрын
Just check the ecu date and see if it’s before June
@clpauto3710
@clpauto3710 3 жыл бұрын
How did you drive it during the break in period? Polls show that how it was driven during this period is likely the cause of this issue. I have a 2021 with 6k miles, no issues this far. Or this poll was wildly coincidental haha.
@sereph9612
@sereph9612 3 жыл бұрын
@@clpauto3710 I have an early build date 2021 and I have driven the piss out of it from day 1, no oil issues yet but only at 2200 miles. What's your build date and how did you drive it during break in?
@JoseOrtiz-tw7mw
@JoseOrtiz-tw7mw Жыл бұрын
How much hp did your 2020 have stock?
@TheRealWojak8
@TheRealWojak8 Жыл бұрын
would the cabin feel really cramped if im 6 foot tall and stocky ?
@Nixonbutcher
@Nixonbutcher 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@vinceking7878
@vinceking7878 3 жыл бұрын
What about suspension differences? Why did they lock the ECU on a car they wanted to be a tuner car????????🤔
@clpauto3710
@clpauto3710 3 жыл бұрын
for your info on the poll, you mixed it up. The amount of people that reported that they dont have an oil consumption issue is DOUBLE (not half as stated) as people who did report to have issues. 51 had no issues, 24 did. This means the majority of people dont have the issue.
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have made a correction in a pinned comment
@rodrigogonzalez3151
@rodrigogonzalez3151 3 жыл бұрын
Strange I have a 2021 witch no oil problems and I already have it tuned on e60
@WineHouse33
@WineHouse33 3 жыл бұрын
Loving my ‘21. Downpipe, exhaust, intake and charge pipe for now.
@nicholaslong3010
@nicholaslong3010 3 жыл бұрын
Is your dealer cool about aftermarket parts? Or you DGAF? What exhaust? Bet it sounds good!
@Indifference2000
@Indifference2000 3 жыл бұрын
Wine house R is it tuned?
@WineHouse33
@WineHouse33 3 жыл бұрын
@@Indifference2000 Not yet.
@hunchoG20
@hunchoG20 3 жыл бұрын
Bought some tuner cult gear as well 😂 hey you never know 👀
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed 😆
@supranova730
@supranova730 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThicWhips I assume you want the McLaren 😂
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please 😂
@havingfr7098
@havingfr7098 3 жыл бұрын
Needed a oil change at 4000 miles, toyota told me it was a software update 😂😂
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 жыл бұрын
Wut😂
@TB-vu2db
@TB-vu2db 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to use bimmer code on 2021 Supra?
@ThicWhips
@ThicWhips 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Konsfps
@Konsfps 3 жыл бұрын
The fenders are so 🔥
@PinoyZo1
@PinoyZo1 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they making a 2022 or a GRMN Supra
@jonathankrum3016
@jonathankrum3016 2 жыл бұрын
Car looks great. They will crack the idme with out fail.
@warrencabaniss7216
@warrencabaniss7216 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh oil consumption is normal as hell on a Bimmer, I’d be worried if a Bimmer wasn’t going through 1-2 qts a month 😂
@bman1668
@bman1668 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@CruisinCuzzi
@CruisinCuzzi 3 жыл бұрын
Jon you made me get an f30 and ooooooo when I can afford one you made me wanna get one of those too 🤧
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