You don’t tell Ducati what a Monster is, Ducati tells you what a Monster is.
@AmazingHaze4202 жыл бұрын
Bought mine just yesterday. The moment I sat on it and felt like I was on a 300cc I simply felt ❤. The looks is just impressive as well and all the technology is just sweet
@Qlime Жыл бұрын
I am a newcomer in motolife. Just finished driving school, and ordered monster SP for me for the upcoming year. I have nothing to compare with, but i think that this bike looks awesome, and is very friendly for new drivers with all that electronics that bike has.
@reidspeed772 жыл бұрын
Whos doing this.... Who the hell is designing our bikes, Not long left for the combustion and you dish this up Is it a fkn zongshen?
@daytrading54562 жыл бұрын
Nobody disputes that it is a "nice" bike. Just ABSOLUTELY not a Monster. We understand your agenda.
@Villani_AV2 жыл бұрын
How is it not? The monster was a parts bin special, it still fits that, frame from the superbike, engine from the supersport, naked, model specific headlight
@GazVanDyk2 жыл бұрын
The monster is a great bike. I’ve had 2. The monster was originally a naked sports bike and the trellis frame was inherited from the sports bike. The sports bikes don’t have trellis frames anymore so…….
@paulcasey52042 жыл бұрын
No.......just no........It just looks like everything else now.
@hughessuffren30842 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I love my 2021 Monster Plus. However, I did make immediate changes. A fender eliminator and an upgrade to a Termignoni exhaust were no-brainers. I echo that it handles better than the previous versions, but I did love the trellis frame. That wasn't enough to steer me away from the new Monster. When I stop, people love it and are intrigued enough to ask questions. Just a great bike!
@ronzelina66822 жыл бұрын
I can see your point, but you fail ( as Ducati has ). Decades of style and the Iconic Trellis are hallmarks of recognising a Monster. Even folks that are not riders can pick old ones at a distance because of Galluzzi's concept. Porsche stumbled but recovered from the blunder of trying to erase the 911, evolving the style to this very day. To discard your heritage (for the bike that saved Ducati ) because you want to streatch the parts bin to cover the SS, hyper ( and comming Desert X ) and save a few Kg on the front Spar is heresy. If you cant tell the difference between an MT09 and this thing from a distance why not just admit the Yamaha will outsell this bike and the Monster is dead moving forward . Not enough ' Italianita ' to hide an ugly H2O Euro 5 engine, no amount of telling the people who purchase they are wrong and dumb for not liking this bike will move it off the showroom floor. You are insulting us and that I take issue with in this video, if you insult your customer base how long do you expect to be in business. A few kg saved on the shared Spar will make little difference to the rider ability of the majority of real world owners ( the big marketing spiel - lie ) , yet the loss of Monster identity they will very much notice every time they walk up to it. Hang onto your aircooled twin Monsters, people they are about to become as sought after as old 900 SS's
@foodlegalese26312 жыл бұрын
6 axis IMU for $9,500 with Yamaha, to add to your point.
@stephenking95172 жыл бұрын
I'm all for improved tech but I aggree its not a monster. Its a bike of its own and good. Why not just call it ducati 937 and keep the monster icon as is. If the 937 appeals to new ducati buyers fair enough. Finding the last 821 monster and 1200 here in Australia isn't going to be quick and be prepared to pay shipping if one comes up interstate. But I'll wait that's the bike I dreamt about sorry ducati
@lukasgarage9562 жыл бұрын
2021 and I'm still rockin a 1995 Monster
@JustMeinYoutube5 ай бұрын
For me is a 1999 and a 2014 and I love them both but 1999 is so special will ride that love forever!
@darylclifford2 жыл бұрын
You’re in the top level of reviewers and that keeps me coming back for more! Thanks from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺👍🍺
@MTBrider262 жыл бұрын
A Ducati is always a heart purchase not a head purchase. All the updates don't tug at the heart strings they make perfect sense to the brain, but I think the heart will win out and buyers will look elsewhere sans the missing red trellis frame. It doesn't even look like a Monster should look, more like a generic bike that could come from any brand. Sales figures will the ultimate arbitrator of truth and when they come in I think the trellis frame will make a comeback in a year or two. I fear Ducati has strayed too far from the winning recipe.
@justinrowlands76782 жыл бұрын
Im a Monster lover and owner, and I LOVE the new Monster. I want one. If it wasn't for COVID inspired poverty I'd be at the dealer right now (though the Streetfighter V2 might be tempting me...)
@1990-t1j2 жыл бұрын
I'm not bothered about the trellis frame. The most important development is the different valves and the huge mileage before the clearances need checking. I wonder whether the bike will be reliable.
@keltecdan2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I’m wondering as well. I ride a lot and don’t want to be stranded way off in Timbuktu.
@Fatbob114s22 жыл бұрын
Oh dear styled by Yamaha MT team. Bikes need to look desirable as they all ride more than well enough for the road. I for one don’t need modes and tft screens I want cool looks and a great sound. iMHO Monster has become a Pussycat
@SquireSCA2 жыл бұрын
Its a good bike. Ducati fanboys, of which I am one, will get over it... People who complain, "But... but... this isn't what we are used to!"... Ignore them. It's called progress.
@WyreForestBiker2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the German influence has spread to the design Department at Ducati . Lets be honest it has none of the flair and flowing lines that made Ducati famous .... Sad .
@Bow-to-the-absurd2 жыл бұрын
Saw some reviewer defending the aesthetics by trying to make out no-one cares about the way an italian bike looks.
@leewatkeys90652 жыл бұрын
I think the SA roads have spoilt you. Those looked great compared to some of the crap we have to ride on over here in England. I had a 696 10 years ago as a first big bike and was tempted with a 848 street fighter but never bit the bullet. For me if it’s better, it’s better even if the frame has moved with the times. 👍🏻
@darylclifford2 жыл бұрын
Someone should come out with a trellis wrap to stick on the new one, then everybody’s happy lol
@tyleryesh30772 жыл бұрын
I bought a new monster. Got super lucky about 4 months ago and this is by far one of the best bikes I’ve ever ridden. I never not have fun on this thing no matter the revs I’m at.
@markreynolds86302 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your style of reviews more n more. Cheers...
@splodge57142 жыл бұрын
What a horrible looking bike. Luckily I like the Scrambler Icon 800.
@rlsedition2 жыл бұрын
No problem unless you like the better performance water-cooled motors give you.
@aunoates66172 жыл бұрын
Icon and new Monster are great bikes. No reason why you can’t like both! 😎
@kollinb092 жыл бұрын
I've owned a Monster and was looking to own another in the next few months. It won't be this newly redesigned version. It's all Personal preference though. This reminds me of the 'New Coke' fiasco of the mid 80s. It might piss off a lot of die hard Monster loyalists. It will be interesting to see what the Monster future holds.
@Bow-to-the-absurd2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a turd. Nothing graceful or attractive about it.
@Dr_LK2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Japanese bike...no more character! The Italians were able to give us beauty and performance...now only performance... No trellis no monster...
@mftraw10992 жыл бұрын
A sensible monster. Not so sure about that. Prefer the old one I think.
@supertjeduc2 жыл бұрын
I will get my second one this week , my first one lasted 10 days, something with an old guy and “i did not see you” Thought about a streetfighter V2 but i have seen some revieuws and i like the looks but not the engine ( to high in the revs before something happens) So next is a red one with full termignoni so the flimsy exhaust is gone 😁
@johanpretorius56142 жыл бұрын
That settles it... `i am officially an "old crusty"... :oD
@rappokalling12 жыл бұрын
They throw off its trellis frame. It really breaks my heart. I think I'll have to say goodbye to ducati monster series.
@twistieslayer35922 жыл бұрын
I’ll go Streetfighter V2
@brianglendenning16322 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does look special
@darylclifford2 жыл бұрын
Any Ducati is a good one 👍
@mindwalkerpod2 жыл бұрын
From the looks department, especially compared to the departure of last ten monster's retro styling, I agree. From the cost/value side, atleast here in Canada, I can't. Sfv2 is 50% more MSRP than the monster (19k vs 13k$ respectively). At that price all but the highest end supernakets can be had. But man, the way it rolls off the tongue, 'ducati'
@984francis2 жыл бұрын
They've spoilt it. The frame is undoubtedly cheaper to make. But it's NOT a monster, it's now generic. I have a 797 and it's gorgeous and comfortable but, frankly a pretty lousy bike because of the non adjustable suspension. Shame. I don't want to plough money into aftermarket suspension.
@slvr1.6182 жыл бұрын
Always an enjoyable review! In my expert idiot opinion- the monster was always about raw,fun and tastefully thought out looks ,the 1200 and predecessor's are all pretty and desirable bikes and the O.G RS wanted to eat bambi, so new is new yes and probably as good or better than you say but it's not a monster, the vegan that designed(dug through the parts bin) it should have called it the woke-ster.
@1990-t1j2 жыл бұрын
What has bike design got to do with eating habits or the woke movement [which I despise]?
@slvr1.6182 жыл бұрын
@@1990-t1j Monster /ˈmɒnstə/ noun 1. a large, frightening imaginary creature . I think the original captured that pantomime and emotion perfectly and the only way I could articulate what the real monster made me feel was to eat something cute,Pikachu was on the list but felt bambi can go.
@mistreku2 жыл бұрын
If you want Moto GP tech, you buy a Panigale. I hate this version of Monster. This is as much Monster as that electric crossover Ford is a Mustang. This looks like any other naked bike out there.
@PROsec52 жыл бұрын
No trellis, no monster .
@hawkwood64052 жыл бұрын
Live in the moment, get rid of the rubbish that clutters my tiny little mind...that about sums riding up, well said.
@everythingissogreen67482 жыл бұрын
This is not the right way to take the Monster design. I'm so sad for my favorite motorcycle.
@m3lvn4152 жыл бұрын
I think they should have called it Monster-X or Monster-Z and keep producing the 1200 and 821's along side it. The 1200/821's are super cool looking bikes; I haven't seen any review not mentioning the outstanding looks of these bikes. It would be a waste to throw away such a great ecstatic design. They can drastically bring down the price of the older models, because there are no R&D costs involved anymore. I think the sales of the 1200/821 will go up noticeably.
@davidscb3632 Жыл бұрын
I think they will become classics 😎
@stevenm17852 жыл бұрын
Basically it is much better in almost every way. Huge improvements.
@nicktacular062 жыл бұрын
Love from Slovenia 🇸🇮!¡!¡
@vicholtreman140511 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you.
@johna69682 жыл бұрын
Been down the Monster route. Walking up to the thing with fingers crossed it would start grew tiresome.
@lovelessissimo2 жыл бұрын
I was shopping for a naked, and I passed on this. It's not a monster anymore.
@esstee95952 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the "tank on a lump" design. Generic engine doesn't help either. Neither does the cheap suspension. The original Monster used a WSBK championship wining trellis frame. The connection to the Ducati Corse department was direct. This thing? Tank on a lump. No thanks.
@Villani_AV2 жыл бұрын
This comment is confusing, the frame the monster uses now is still the wsbk frame, just the modern one?
@midnorthmidwest31282 жыл бұрын
You couldnt make a bigger eye sore if you tried! How could you even walk to the garage knowing this mess was in there.
@seebarry40682 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with it. Just doesn’t look like a monster. More like a Yamaha.
@hunkyleepickle2 жыл бұрын
best part of the video, "just buy a bike'. People spend too much time perseverating on the spec sheets. Get what you can afford, and ride the wheels off it.
@paulantonio7402 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your reviews, Mat, but a few things: If you think Italian roads are bad, come out to California. When they're not falling into the ocean, our roads will have you visiting a physical therapist after every ride. Compared to the Monsters of yore, that new Ducati is one hot mess of angles, lines, and wires. No thanks. And finally, why blur out the speedometer? No one in Italy cares that you're tearing up the back roads, least of all the Carabinieri.
@johnhoo67072 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these after test riding. I do like the lack of the trellis frame. It automatically removes any desire for the insufferable traditionalists to come talk to me at the Ducati meets.
@campbellclark34582 жыл бұрын
The baby monster (was it 696 or something?) was the first "big" bike I ever rode. That was it, I was hooked after that. 180kph in suburbia - don't tell that to my friend's dad!
@kalaharimine2 жыл бұрын
Pass.
@parsivalshorse2 жыл бұрын
We're a strange bunch we riders. We hate change, and then love the changes and then don't want the changes to change.
@obriendavid932 жыл бұрын
Nice philosophical note to end the vid on which 100% sums up the reason why I ride. Great work as ever!
@johnDukemaster2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best bike shows! Well made and with bullseye content. Thank you! And to answer the question about the new Monster...it looks a bit too nice. It's a great handling bike, I'm sure. But I'll go with the KTM.
@arvincheech Жыл бұрын
any ducati is a beautiful ducati.
@victorkorando2 жыл бұрын
No we should not care...its called evolution 😁😀
@murdocampbell48582 жыл бұрын
Says it all when I was more interested in your braw bunnet. (Scottish for snazzy cap). 🏴🏴
@duc8992 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review. Not wedded to the past, glad to see Ducati pushing more for performance than history.....now about those stupid desmo valves!!!!!!
@anon1m00s2 жыл бұрын
There's not a lot of good motorcycle shows, but this is definitely one of them ! Cheers 🥂
@doswoods6532 жыл бұрын
I own the scrambler (803cc icon), have it all retro’d, and am about to install a swing arm from the monster 1100 evo for that single sided sweetness. Always liked the look of the monster and was hoping to acquire one soon to make a cafe racer out of. It will likely be an older model though after seeing this. This new generation of the monster may have some “improvements” but it in no way appeals to me visually when compared to its predecessors. All this tech they’re throwing on bikes nowadays makes the experience less visceral and the machines themselves harder to or altogether impossible work on one’s self. (All that trash talk about new tech said… I’m still getting a 899 Panigale.) 😏
@scottstetson2879 Жыл бұрын
I like it❤😊
@naveenkumar-xc4cb2 жыл бұрын
Watching this from my laptop screen and it doesn't look like a Ducati but more like a Yamaha.
@richardcollins5862 жыл бұрын
Last true Monster was the air cooled 797. It’s all gone now sadly.
@nairbyad71882 жыл бұрын
wish they have a higher version with Ohlins...
@darthnatas953 Жыл бұрын
35 years after the first GSX-R, Ducati discovers the aluminum frame.
@cartaun52762 жыл бұрын
So newer bikers seem to be offended because mytical sporty bikes are mytical and sporty. So weird to see a brand like ducati spoiling them
@ChrisVonDoom837 ай бұрын
I must have drank the Kool-Aid because I think this bike is gorgeous at all angles!
@railroadtrash092 жыл бұрын
Nah. From headlight back, it just screams cancel culture.
@stanleyknife19672 жыл бұрын
Looks a bit Yamaha MT-07, which I guess isn’t a bad thing? Nice review as always.
@WyreForestBiker2 жыл бұрын
What !! ...I'd say that is a very bad thing ....Its supposed to be a Ducati for gods sake , Iconic designer of beautiful motorcycles !!
@dfe82862 жыл бұрын
Fugly, just get an MT07/09 if you like the looks.
@Fee.12 жыл бұрын
I do wish they’d show off the frame more
@JB-nj4cp2 жыл бұрын
Nope. No trellis, no Monster. Ducati is also about the aesthetics to me. This look bland.
@Supernova120342 жыл бұрын
it doesnt even have cruise control...even the tuono 660 has that!
@RobustArid3792 жыл бұрын
Is monster reliable, i drink monster but nevertheless rode one, i seen a bitch before
@haim9592 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. I have no idea what it is or what they were trying to do here .. Ducati is not
@johntasker95882 жыл бұрын
I tried this and others, I couldn't go past the mt09.
@docmccoy98132 жыл бұрын
5:47, that's so sad to hear. If you want to save kilos buy an scooter
@Back2TheBike2 жыл бұрын
Looks lightweight. The apex predator for the Monster is the R. In black. Everything after this was downhill, less. Delighted to say I've got one.
@500monkeyboom92 жыл бұрын
I like it but not enough to buy one.Mv Augusta brutale 800 Rosso.👍
@neighbourhoodmusician2 жыл бұрын
Ducatis hold no interest for me anymore. They're just ploughing the same furrow as the Japanese bikes these days.
@rlsedition2 жыл бұрын
Yes, perhaps, but they sure are styled better.
@neighbourhoodmusician2 жыл бұрын
@@rlsedition That's totally what they lost me. The classic simplicity is gone and everything is fussy and looks lame in my opinion.
@rlsedition2 жыл бұрын
@@neighbourhoodmusician That "simplicity" was enabled by the air-cooled motor in the earlier Monsters. Show me a current naked bike that isn't so "fussy", with all the wires, hoses and plastic bits.
@neighbourhoodmusician2 жыл бұрын
@@rlsedition I don't like the look. What do you want from me? 🙃
@boldstar692 жыл бұрын
@@rlsedition kawasaki Z900RS
@duncanelliott51202 жыл бұрын
Great review .....As always!
@tonebonetones2 жыл бұрын
Bottomed out the shock?? On decidedly OK roads - try English country roads, as at least one other comment suggests lol! - and you're probably 10 stone dripping wet. If you're bottoming out that shock it's either a) knackered or b) set on the lowest pre load, and even then, frankly, I find it very hard to believe. I've got a 20 year old BMW F650 and the rear shock bottoms out from time to time because its worn out and needs replacing. My 2020 Ducati Scrambler Cafe Racer has never bottomed out....on godawful, neglected UK roads....and I'm almost 15 stone.
@JDeezle212 жыл бұрын
What bike in the class has a Damper?
@rajsteint64872 жыл бұрын
Lots of people were talking shit about Ducati ditching the trellis. I've loved Ducati Monsters since I was a kid and I loved the looks of the previous trellis Monsters. I was on my way to buy a Monster 821 or KTM Duke 890R. I ended up waiting for the new Monster 937 and I ended up buying a 2021 Dark Stealth Monster+. Zero regrets!!! I have been on the 821 and 937 (both brand new) and the Monster 937 leaves the old one in the dust in terms of performance. Looks wise, I like both old Monster and new but overall the new Monster wins hands down. Lots of people online talk shit but lots of them haven't even been on a ride on both bikes hahahaha. KTM 890 and Yamaha MT really nice bikes too but I think overall the Monster is better. This is a bike that has sportiness and class compared to just sportiness on the KTM and Yamaha.
@nomojo11102 жыл бұрын
I just came here to write a snarky comment. Before that though, I do love The Bike Show :) Anyway, the box frame is to either save money or the bastards (Bologna) just took the Monsters tubing and used it for the sub-frame on the new Multi :p And I'd point out that it wasn't until Monsters began using water cooling (S4RS/821/1200) that they became comparative plumpers beside their air-cooled predecessors. This smacks of the Fry & the Slurm Factory episode of Futurama.
@otlndsh2 жыл бұрын
The center of the new Monster looks a bit like I took a sheet of aluminum foil, crumpled it up in a ball, and put it under a gas tank.
@as2420062 жыл бұрын
This is the most Meh/ Blah Ducati I have ever seen.
@MK-sk2mi2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a mt09
@Simonsays41 Жыл бұрын
Ridden the 821 and the new one and it’s by far the better bike. I had my heart set on the sf v2 but took a monster a blast after the sfv2 and bought the monster. Comfy fun and plenty poke for blasting round a/b roads. Great review.
@ksheehan3302 жыл бұрын
Love the comment at the end re: living in the moment. Great video production too! I’ve ridden this bike and would add it is hot to ride in the summer heat and I don’t believe the mirrors adjust up or down, just side to side. I do like the bike a lot, but it is also too small for me at 6 ft 220lbs. Thanks as always.
@aunoates66172 жыл бұрын
If it’s like other Ducatis you need tools to adjust the mirrors. Some people who don’t realise that often break them!
@stormedbyhippiesc39662 жыл бұрын
Looks and feels too much like a Japanese bike. It’s got too refined and lost its raw charm. It’s one reason people are going back to older bikes now for a better experience. Cool to have all the tech but when you lose the charm that got you to where you are then you will lose that client base.
@barracuda017 Жыл бұрын
as always a thorough, very helpful review, helping to understand what it's like to ride the monster. Any thoughts on how it compare to the xsr900
@rob379lqz2 жыл бұрын
Nonono. At least in late 1990, I saw and photo’ed necked Ducati in Austria. If you want proof let me know.
@nairbyad71882 жыл бұрын
how'd you get those video segments of yourself riding without seeing any support sticks? like a drone following too closely!!
@KTMSAS-Duc1200S2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I got to ride one and it’s not for me. I suppose my 1200S will be my last Monster.
@daytrading54562 жыл бұрын
The design of this bike killed the Monster brand.... the new V2 streetfighter will ensure its demise.
@johnlaw57622 жыл бұрын
Visually I do miss that frame. But if this is better then so be it. The monster just needs to look a bit more italian and less japanese in the next iteration in my opinion
2 жыл бұрын
Le strade italiane 😂😂😂 fanno parte del nostro DNA Motociclistico. 🤙 bel video grazie 🤩
@AdiposePhin2 жыл бұрын
Marketing. Mark my words...a few years down the road we might see that trellis frame again!
@IanTed2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t bother me, it’s a great engine but then I prefer the comfort of my Multistrada V2S…
@donaldelder58342 жыл бұрын
2021 and still no cruise control on the monster, pick up your game ducati
@DaBudaa12 жыл бұрын
those roads are still better than compared to Hawaii road, especially here on my island of Oahu.