2021 Genesis G80 | SOME Steps Forward

[@drwinlied]

"Genesis depreciation" is actually much more in-line with the rest of the luxury car world at this point. They hold their value much better than they ever have before...and still a f-ton better than Cadillac.

[@joeyboombatz6509]

Genesis a totally worth every penny

[@mackfar27]

Say it loud for the people in the back. 🫨

[@dht580]

I just found Savagegeese. The attention to detail and honesty in these reviews is invaluable and rare on youtube.

[@glenniz1]

We all had the very same feeling, the first time we tuned in to Mark....Welcome to the Savagegeese Show my friend!!

[@luisamoa2500]

You mean you don't like the cookie and penguin scores 😉

[@Broker-in-Maine]

When did you get out of jail? Or did aliens have you? Lol welcome home!

[@jeremyreynolds4]

Go watch some of the older videos with turbowski. Some funny stuff.

[@donniebunkerboi9975]

@@luisamoa2500 well, some people love hot hatch, others prefer hot hag

[@coralinemal]

This is the clearest I’ve heard the in-car conversation. The cabin noise must be super low

[@QuickQuips]

The 2018 was already quiet. I imagine how much better it is now...

[@barbecuetechtips6024]

I wonder if its at quiet as the K900. Which seemed to be the bench mark from KIA for quietness that rivaled the S class.

[@robbypitas620]

My 2015 is literally silent inside, lotus did a great job balancing handling and comfort on the previous style, not sure if they designed the chassis on this new one

[@markmiller3279]

@@barbecuetechtips6024 I'm pretty sure they tried to exceed the K900, at least with the V-6 version. It reminds me of an early Lexus LS, though without the V-8. It's no doubt quicker, probably roomier (expectations having changed), and even more elegant. It's such a nice interior.

[@dwadd7528]

have you seen anyone review any electric cars?

[@Shakalas2]

Nvidia graphics card in a car, what a time to be alive

[@SwaggyMcSwagSwag1]

But does it run cyberpunk 2077?

[@jbmazhar2000]

and the fact that you can't buy one for your computer looll

[@arjunyg4655]

That’s not really what this is though

[@tookiedew]

Yea, what a time indeed

[@MasterChiefAgent007]

When will they start scalping the G80?

[@dogsandcars202]

I’m sure the average person coming from a 10-year-old Altima or accord would have no problem with the entertainment system

[@machtschnell7452]

Or any Lexus, for that matter.

[@syr72]

Exactly. I have a 03 FX35 with 300k miles on it, even the new Elantra would be a a huge upgrade for me 😂

[@dwadd7528]

its a Hyundai.....

[@StuninRub]

@@dwadd7528 Yea? You point? A lexus is just a toyota, Acura is just a Honda, infiniti is just a Nissan, Audi is just a VW, Lamborghini is just a VW, and Bugatti is just a VW. A good car is a good car, why do you choose to spread your butt cheeks for brands?

[@dwadd7528]

@@StuninRub its Hyundai. that's my point. Hyundai KIA cut corners like crazy. thats why the resale value almost nothing. if you like to drive Fake chinese(or Korean) copy, go ahead.

[@petequinones3454]

Mark: "This BIG KNOB feels amazing."

[@3v4761]

LMFAO....he looks like the type who held a couple

[@na6ce705]

"That's what she said"

[@splak_5624]

he said "huge rotary knob" and there was no subtext at all. you made this up just for youtube comment section likes lol

[@3v4761]

@@splak_5624 LMFAO...i didn't bother watching...he just makes all interesting

[@kriscote3295]

Best used car bargain on the market! 2016 G80 Technology pkg, bought in 08/2019 for $22k CDN ($17,200 USD) with 77,000 kms (48k miles). Perfect history. The depreciation gods are smiling!

[@1malikalik]

Good for you Kris Cote. May you live a healthy and a long life to happily enjoy your G80. It's always to read and hear a good story - which is becoming increasingly rare. Congratulations bro.

[@NisuUuno]

Genesis is only 5 years old as a separate company. I think they have achieved a lot with that time.

[@erickrecinos2931]

Agreed

[@elu5ive]

no, they're a division. the company is hyundai and they're over 50 years old

[@AFCompany]

To be honestly they really haven’t. They screwed themselves by trying to upscale Hyundai with the Genesis and Eqqus then turning one upscale model into a brand. They also have a horrible dealer network and most of them are connected to Hyundai which buyers looking for luxury cars won’t stop at. They needed to go the Honda/Acura route and make a luxury division from the start. Acura was so successful it was outselling Mercedes and BMW when it came out, so then Toyota copied with Lexus and Nissan copied with INFINITI, all solely due to how successful Acura was as a Japanese luxury brand. So Genesis really hasn’t done anything. They make beautiful cars for sure but no one is buying them because no one knows where to buy one and the general public doesn’t know what Genesis is.

[@MrCYChung]

Roflmao.. Go buy a Genesis and find out for your self how much of a 💩 it is as well as waste of money.

[@NisuUuno]

@@MrCYChung what :D did you even watch the review? their reliability, like Hyundais is right next to likes of Toyota. I would love to buy one if they would be sold in Europe. I find German cars soooo boring that anything else seems like a breath of fresh air. Nice Mustang on your profile pic though, some of those have luckily made here as well.

[@Max_Thunder]

The Goose Master should have eleventy billion subs.

[@2dostone2]

Genesis simply looks class, and i dont know why everyone are mentioning the steering wheel, it looks classy and beautifull

[@Mr.Marbles]

Apart from the grille. The proportions are way off it is way too huge... makes it look tryhard

[@2dostone2]

@Bucky Fiden prefer the one from gv 80 aswell

[@OTBkid]

It's the Millennial generation, they can't handle the reverse sweep tach either.

[@Frejborg]

I think the steering wheel looks unique and stately. Not bad at all.

[@dogsandcars202]

Love that somebody is finally just focusing on luxury

[@michaelpuderramirez2331]

Another outstanding review from the very best. No "Demuro" type of clowning nor 500 words per minute speech. Please keep doing what you're doing. Happy Holidays!

[@nomadenview]

Lol....

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

lmaooooo totally agree

[@dw_moto]

I think Genesis made some good improvements with this gen, most notable being the development of its own unique design language. No one can say this looks like "everything else", for better or worse.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

You would think. But plenty people do on Genesis ads on my FB. They're projecting that onto their own biases because this car has its own unique design language as you state.

[@dw_moto]

@@benjaminsmith2287 it's frustrating. It's just a special criticism reserved for Korean products I suppose. And then when Hyundai does make something unique, it's "ugly". They can't win I suppose lol

[@baronvonjo1929]

Love it.

[@ITStechy]

All good EXCEPT ditching that freeway friendly 5.0 that easily propels you past legal limits without knowing it.

[@ruslansergeev863]

You talk about the details so beautifully so I’ve decided to learn English on your channel. Thank you

[@quaidmciver172]

Good potential choice for all those disgruntled Lexus GS enthusiasts out there.

[@hissingoose]

yep, except if you keep the car past warranty, in which case the lexus GS is a much better option for long term ownership.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

@@hissingoose and how do you know that? Lol. There are plenty of Lexus’s in the shop of who have under 100k miles. Being a Lexus fanboy isn’t an argument....

[@nionology]

@@JacesOwnWorld track record. Outliers don't define the rule. And the rule is Toyota is still world leading in reliability. Due to everything from engineering to assembly line to factory worker ethics.

[@mikej243]

We'll cross that bridge when we get there, I'm ride or die with GS350 going almost 230k miles strong.

[@hissingoose]

​@@JacesOwnWorld i've never owned or long term driven a toyota product in my life, but drive roughly 90,000kms per year. i've also worked for and been invested in companies that run independent fleets of dozens of vehicles that do similar yearly mileage. most had a minimum spec that vehicles needed to last 400,000kms with minimal maintenance. I've yet to run into a fleet controller that would take a dozen sonotas over a dozen camry's with that target mileage in mind. you on the other sure sound like a fanboy... i could be wrong. i try not to make assumptions about people i don't know.

[@ToxicHorsePucky]

5:07 $20 Walmart manicure straight down the drain

[@radudeATL]

Don’t hate on a Walmart manicure. Those fumes are better than any permanent marker I’ve been able to find...

[@Patient_Lion_BS]

I died on this part, it was too much of a golden moment for me too be able to comprehend and come to grips with.

[@joshua.harazin]

Put it in black and white, and it would look like an infomercial for powered window shades. "Oh no! Has this ever happened to you?"

[@rocketkinger2506]

Omg hahahaha

[@infinotize]

laughing way too hard at the rear seat shade and jack bobbing in the back seat

[@sshah2545]

Hahaha just so unexpected. I lolled

[@kimtruong4676]

@@sshah2545 I love it. He's normally dry, but every now and then, hahahahah, it's great comedy. I totally appreciate he's working to entertain us. I am abundantly entertained.

[@basithph8958]

The GV80 is also worth looking at its arguably one of the best SUVs in its class

[@VaunShiz]

He said that

[@andyb8005]

Beautiful car and likely very reliable - Mercedes and BMW need to take note. I am personally fed up with poor German reliability, high parts pricing and a consistently poor service experience based on the 4 German cars that we have leased over the past 8 years.

[@mackfar27]

Make the switch. You won't be dissappointed.

[@cvandenhaute]

I bought a G70 last year. The car is fantastic but he dealer experience is atrocious. None were interested to find me the car I really wanted and I ended up buying one in Arizona and have it shipped to TN. Valet service is a nice touch but each service had issues, they really need to work on the dealership experience.

[@Dusty.Spinster]

I love that the tac/speedo needles leave an afterglow like a motorcycle in Akira.

[@komagene]

I made a decision: from now on I'm gonna like your videos, then watch them.

[@JuanCarlosLTO]

This is my favorite automotive channel: best cinematography and best technical content

[@jerrybarrax5618]

Another great review. I'm not crazy about that humongous grill. The flip side of the depreciation problem is affordability on the used car market. I bought a 2016 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 in February and got a really quiet, luxurious, well-appointed car with over 20,000 miles left on the factory warranty for just under $22k. I love the torque, effortless acceleration and sound of the naturally aspirated 3.8L V6. It's the quietest car I've ever owned and has a terrific 15-speaker sound system. The clarity and sound stage is awesome and the bluetooth connection is much faster than the one in my 2014 Accord. It's not as agile as my Accord, so I totally agree about the handling. It feels like a big car and doesn't corner as responsively as I'd like. There's a little creak from the panoramic sunroof on cold mornings with the shade open, but you can close it and the noise goes away. That's my only gripe. Despite the lack of premium dealer experience, the build quality is excellent. According to CR, the Hyundai and Genesis brands are more reliable and have better customer satisfaction ratings than Honda, Acura, Cadillac and most other brands. It's a solid value all around.

[@weedmastersr]

Finally, a luxury car that focuses on comfort instead of pretending to be sporty.

[@machtschnell7452]

Who said Cadillac was dead?

[@ajtam05]

@@machtschnell7452 What's Cadillac?

[@joskjj3625]

Ever heard of Lincoln?

[@SwaggyMcSwagSwag1]

@@joskjj3625 No. We are car enthusiasts. We do not acknowledge the existence of FCA products. (with the exception of Alfa Romeo).

[@ajtam05]

@@joskjj3625 The President? What's does he have to do with this?

[@ARentz07]

The previous G80 was amazing. I rented a 5.0 Ultimate on Turo and was floored by how smooth and quiet it was. I'm happy to see Genesis is still providing comfort first.

[@mfr5725]

V6 is garbage turbo or non vs the v8... no more v8

[@thewhitecarrot]

Counter clockwise tach. Some things just shouldn’t be emulated.

[@jedknutson8373]

that was just weird..when they were punching it I was like wait what....

[@cedrick305]

A lot of manufacturers are doing it now but yes it’s stupid.

[@agreatd]

they copied audi design with poached audi designer and was thinking hmmm, what else shall we steal? lets do bmw 8 tach

[@Avalk9724]

Who cares? Where do you even need a tach in a car like that? It's an automatic luxury car, not a manual gti

[@stevejohnstone5163]

@@agreatd what didn’t they poach! Kia, Hyundai,Genesis or any other Chinese brand has not invented tech but used the innovations from the leaders. Reason why it’s cheaper. Before all your keyboard warriors start know you facts

[@judeau9151]

props to being one of the only channels that comments on the buying/dealership experience. It’s a huge piece of actual consumer advice.

[@TrinityWilderness1]

“All Grill”?? Not compared to the 2022 Toyota Avalon. Oh my lord, that front is just… horrific.

[@johnranalletta9249]

Missing the BMW dealer experience is like not having to bend over and grab your ankles at check out.

[@kgb4187]

But where will I get licorice from?

[@machtschnell7452]

And there are lattes and movies to enjoy while you are being "serviced."

[@jpeterman9699]

That's my favorite part

[@2004cyrus]

But I love getting warm cookies when I walk to the service waiting area

[@johnranalletta9249]

When I bot a 335d in '11, I called local BMW dealer asking for quote for oil service. He said, "$235". After I hung up, he called back apologizing for misquoting the price. I was momentarily relieved, but then he said, "I was wrong. It's $285." Later, at the parts counter, I was charged $16 for a liter of DEF in BMW's special, non-reusable filler neck bottle. Reminded me of the old joke where a sales clerk said to a customer, "Thank you for not saying anything about my hunched back." The customer replied, "Hunched back? Hell, everything else in here is so high, I thought it was your ass!"

[@Listman11]

Depreciation? I just got an offer for a 2018 BMW 7 series for $40,000. The original window sticker was $96000. Don’t talk to me about depreciation.

[@smartkid1201]

Exactly! The Germans are the leader when it comes to depreciation.

[@Frejborg]

You selling your 7 series? How come?

[@themightymrpink]

All of your car reviews are always a pleasure to watch. The Genesis brand is really on its A game with its newer product, the G80 and GV80 are no exceptions to this. I’d love to see your full in depth reviews on other hotly anticipated new vehicles like the new Chevrolet Suburban and Ford F-150. Keep up the good reviews!

[@Thenevisian]

Stupid question.....but...new cars don't have CD players anymore?

[@-atnx7-]

I bought/own a 2017 3.8 RWD and I agree the dealership experience can be inconsistent but the place I got mine and get it serviced it’s great

[@mikexcanxjerk]

Nice car. Have you ever put Shell V- power nitro+ 91 octane premium on your 3.8 L if so did it make a difference/have you noticed a difference in performamce vs the other brands premium octane & 87 ?

[@carlosnvlr]

The way you guys discussed/analyzed this vehicle, and the company as a whole, was superb. Hyundai/Genesis would be wise to meet with you in a boardroom and consult over these points/topics.

[@93karamgill]

Had the previous generation Genesis G80. I used the car for business and put 189,000 miles on it. My experience went a little like this. I replaced the transmission twice. (The first one went at 102K, yes that 2k after the warranty expired). The head unit failed and the dealership wanted $6k to replace it. Constant issues with the throttle body. The battery constantly died locking me out, even after replacing the unit twice, it did little to fix the issue. The headlight washers constantly broke. Up to 60-70k miles, the thing was a dream. But buyers beware. These are great lease vehicles but please save yourself the headache and don't equate this to anything close to something like a Lexus. at 189,000 the car felt like a diesel truck in terms of drivetrain refinement. If you read up to this point, might as well hear the worst of it. One word... depreciation. Purchased the car for 48K USD and walked away with a $3300 trade-in. Lesson learned. Don't get me wrong. A company working this hard to challenge the status quo deserves respect but buyers beware. LEASE ONLY. My $.02.

[@basithph8958]

Hyundai is on top of its game right now Can’t wait to see more the Genesis lineup!

[@richl9049]

Absolute BEST car review channel on YT. Love your format/approach to your videos, CANDID words, and the depth in which you go into the details. Thanks, Rich.

[@kaleknikker123]

Testing audio with gangnam style is just savage!

[@mcmaximax]

You'll probably see a lot of these around Gangnam anyways lol

[@stephenreed3381]

Where did you see that? Now I'm trying to find it.

[@jacobyo99]

This is the first G80 I’ve seen in a light color, I like it

[@eto2352]

5:06 manual peasant blockers demo had me crying! I think Genesis is nailing these new products. They are designing and tuning for the market segment, hitting the nail on the head. The dealership experience is a huge failing. That alone will kill it for many. Lexus makes a great product, but the dealer experiences of all the luxury brands is a big reason we go back and buy and lease continually.

[@rmTheWalrus]

Lol, I laughed out loud when I watched that part. I understand the dealership experience part, but I have to be honest, at least here in Seattle, the nearby Mercedes and Audi dealership experience has also been a bit crap. One of the bmw dealership is good, but the other less so. Maybe not traditional Hyundai or (worse) Nissan bad, but… it narrows the gap. (I have ownership and shopping experience with all the above). My main point is… between their competitors failing and Genesis pushing upward, they’re steadily closing the gap. Kind of cool to watch it happen, tbh.

[@rmTheWalrus]

Lol, I laughed out loud when I watched that part. I understand the dealership experience part, but I have to be honest, at least here in Seattle, the nearby Mercedes and Audi dealership experience has also been a bit crap. One of the bmw dealership is good, but the other less so. Maybe not traditional Hyundai or (worse) Nissan bad, but… it narrows the gap. (I have ownership and shopping experience with all the above). My main point is… between their competitors failing and Genesis pushing upward, they’re steadily closing the gap. Kind of cool to watch it happen, tbh.

[@mattspeer01]

From what other reviewers have said that tested the dBs, the cabin is the second quietest vehicle they have ever tested. Only bested by a Mercedes S Class Maybach I believe.

[@Frejborg]

Amazing!

[@AI-qd4vb]

thats just nonsense... This car is nowhere near a standard S-Class, A8 or 7-series in the refinement chapter. Including noise insulation. And theres even the G90 to account for... What, are the folks at Genesis crazy and made the mid size sedan better than the full sized one? Absolute nonsense. Any of the 6L E Class hybrid Mercs are probably even more quiet than this due to the superior powertrain. Volvos are insanely quiet too. DB count does nothing. A single variable test is incapable of determining the noise level of a cars cabin. Not that long ago Ford Fusions and S-Max used to be top 10 in these lists, and those cars are not top 10 on noise insulation in real life.

[@mattspeer01]

@@AI-qd4vb Next time, come with facts, not your overblown German car worship. I'll take the word of actual car experts that test these kind of things for a living over someone who obviously loves German cars above all else.

[@joycedelarosa9304]

5:07 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@andrewfriedman2572]

Foiled again!!

[@jbmazhar2000]

man of culture, i see

[@Ryanstuff]

That window shade scene killed me 🤣

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

5:25 obviously super excited about the shop segment lol ... making me nervous, Mark! I am pulling for this brand to succeed!

[@pedromiguelareias]

Perhaps the most old-school and serious reviews on the web.

[@Ari--d]

can you do a vid about what the graphs on the audio test mean? Maybe interview the guy who tests them?

[@Wasabi9111]

Haha. I thought I was the only one who had no clue what all the graphs meant. I’m glad you asked first.

[@barbecuetechtips6024]

Just look it up on KZbin lmao

[@olafvanes]

The top waterfall is a frequency response chart where the second graph is on the back and towards you is a timeaxis. Idealy the frequency graph is smooth and it dampens out in time, the lower frequencies rumble on a bit. The bottom graph is harmonic distortion and that should be low.

[@justWIN96]

Can't wait for the GV70 review

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

No folding rear seats: NO SALE -- under any circumstances. That was a really stupid decision. I love sedans and not SUVs, but they gotta have some utility with the folding rear seat. The Germans have had folding rear seats in their mid sized sedans for DECADES now (their main competition). Totally unacceptable.

[@gregsullivan7408]

Good point, and it's a shame the Lexus ES doesn't have folding seats, even though the vehicle it's based on (the Toyota Avalon), DOES.

[@Cleofizoid]

Hard to find a black on black 3.5T RWD Prestige trim in the Houston area right now. And in general it would appear the dealers aren't negotiating off MSRP, in fact it appears the early adopters are paying coupla thousand dollars above MSRP. Back to shopping for a 2021 Lexus ES 350 Luxury for me...

[@parvent3556]

I feel like 'a special person' every time I get behind the wheel of my 1995 Dodge Caravan!

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

Depreciation on ALL mainstream luxury cars is bonkers. So I'm not sure this is a valid concern for those shopping in this segment. Unless we're saying, all luxury vehicles should be leased? Further, with 100,000 mile warranty, it seems like this is more of "buy" and not lease car. On the other hand, we all know what happens to German luxury after 3 years or 36,000 miles.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I find the lack of German cars recently on this channel troubling. I'm an executive and will only be taken seriously if I have a German automobile.

[@cmacd8879]

You read it here first: Korea is the new Germany. Please reset your bias...

[@MeynMotorGroup]

@@cmacd8879 my credit score is high enough to allow me to lease German autos. I cannot and will not be caught slipping in these Chinese cars. My company won't even allow me to park this on the lot.

[@1MountainLife]

Rented the base model 2023 recently and drove 500 miles. Was great on gas, non branded speakers were above average and love that the exterior lights fade in and out opposed to just turning on and off. The self driving features and lane keep assist I had to turn off since it was very aggressive and made it appear as if I was driving distracted. Apple carplay disconnected often and wireless carplay wasn't an option. Turning radius is worst than a large suv, if you're making a u-turn or parking in a tight spot it requires some extra attention. The latest Avalon and ES350 felt quieter and had a much smoother drivetrain imo.

[@o0julek0o]

An extremely good looking car. Finally something Korean I'd actually buy.

[@2004cyrus]

Please buy one so they keep making more of them.

[@Tomoyo0827]

Really? That gaping mouth is good looking?

[@dark6c159]

its FAKE fake Bentley.

[@truthtruth3717]

Oh please buy one. I have the 2018 G80. That is a gem of a car. There is a reason they don't make anymore GS. mmmmm. I know one of them because I owned 3. One 3rd gen. 2 4th generation. I drove Lexus for 20 yrs until I went for another GS my dealer of 20 yrs said no mo. They are discontinued. Yes the GS is done. My own dealer said hey go buy that G80. It's better than the GS an that's one of the reasons that the GS is going ghost. One of the reasons. The other? They jus didn't sale. But that G80 or the one I have now? Does knock the GS out. I've drove those GS's. Had my GENISIS FOR 2 YRS NOW. I will have the 2021 in November of 21. The best thing happened to me is the GS got discontinued and I loved my GS. Lexus the company is lazy. Great cars reliable but lazy. Trying to take ur money for less car. Genisis which is a excellent car gives you more for your money. Go figure.

[@meavyhetal]

oooO guys genesis is doing THAT well that some random comment says they have 70k they could drop on this car maybe we should take genesis serious now huh??🤔

[@quan1562]

I never a car review where the guy goes str8 in and give facts without prep prep prep and let's u know about dealerships.. Wow, this was awesome 👍🏿

[@technolotree5690]

This was my dream car for 2020, before Covid hit and I lost my job.

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

There's a reason I'm subscribed to this channel, and that is because you guys share something in common with me. We all appreciate the finer things in life when it comes to cars. You are car enthusiasts while not going stupid overboard like some of those Brits do. You two are sensible and practical American car enthusiasts with whom I can greatly relate to. That being said, your perspective on the G80 is a little skewed. You mentioned that the top engine in the G80 isn't as great as the top engines in the Germans'. Yes, that is a true statement but do you think that a buyer looking at the G80 is thinking in those terms? I don't think someone looking at a M550i or M5 is cross shopping a G80.

[@DADVICETV]

I was anticipating getting a GV80 but, like your experience, my dealership experience from just discussing the vehicle did not go as I expected. I decided not to wait and instead got a 2021 BMW X5 xDrive 45e. The BMW drives amazingly, but has a very small 2nd row. Perhaps in 3 years Genesis will have worked out their dealership experience and I will consider them.

[@doublehh666]

Have they fixed the defects in the hybrid BMWs yet? Heard it was an issue. Come to think of it, seems to be an issue with a lot of hybrids and new EVs from traditional ICE manufacturers.

[@descendinggod9740]

5:05 LMFAO SO UNEXPECTED IM DEAD

[@2605155]

The cuts in your intro roll were perfectly timed to the music. I'm sure you spent extra time on that.

[@lowlanz]

I think the depreciation part will be better with this generation. Since the first gen had some identity crisis. This one along with newer models from genesis have much more consistency. Plus they just look more luxurious.

[@matty1053]

It's amazing. But Hyundai NEEDS to have a luxury experience for Genesis at dealers.

[@Kevin122331]

I definitely agree. I currently own a G80 and have to get it serviced at a Hyundai dealership. Don't get me wrong, I love Hyundais. But it's just straight up weird when my loaner vehicle is an Elantra or Accent.

[@tundrav8georgia]

Agree it’s not up to Lexus levels

[@AmericanBusinessman422]

I couldn't give a fuck about where the 1st guy buys the car...

[@mackfar27]

@@Kevin122331 Facts!

[@ImGigantor]

21:21 - I bought my 2015 5.0L in part due to your review on the car a few years ago. It really bummed me out as you described how close you got to buying one. It has become the very best vehicle I have ever owned, so I hope you give them another shot some day. Cheers!

[@quaarjet]

I bought a 2015 3.8L. Nice car but the temperature control regulation of the car left a lot to be desired as it blew cold air once the cabin heated up. Traded it in for a Truck.

[@Jacobk66]

This is why I watch you. People don’t realize the dealer experience and depreciation is a big turn off. I see everyone in comments going on about the G70 and how it’s a better bet than a 3 Series or C Class but many haven’t actually bought or leased new ones. I have and seriously looked at a G70 and G80. Dealing with a Hyundai dealership can be excruciatingly aggravating. I hope and pray it gets better but between that and the depreciation it’s a solid no for me still.

[@DaddyBear1971]

A+ on the cinematography, music, editing and overall content (of course). You always have superb videos... but this one is among the best of 2020. The music gave it a Hitchcock feel. I liked the “night time” shot that shows the interior lighting. I would like to see that in all of your reviews. Good work!

[@jlolment]

When you say the architecture is exclusive to Genesis and Kia can't share, does that also include the K900?

[@JDubbs07]

The current K900 is actually derived from the Stinger's platform, which itself is a derivation of the DH Genesis platform. We'll have to see if Kia is actually excluded - I'm sure they'd like to use the new platform for a Mohave replacement.

[@2004cyrus]

Absolutely

[@LezOLee]

Driving dynamics aside, 2.5 G80 or an ultra luxury ES350? They price similar to each other, and both are nice on the interior. Which would you own?

[@udontknowmeg7254]

Lexus

[@AI-qd4vb]

The G80 stomps the Lexus... The ES is filled with hard plastics, its infotainment is crap as usual, it seems its quite heavy, and built on McPherson strut FWD platform... The least noble of configurations for a premium sedan. The G80 on the other hand ticks all the boxes. The interior is lauded. Some even saying is on par with Porsches on fit and finish. Nicely padded materials all over the place. RWD and fully independent suspension, so, better driving dynamics than the ES at least. Longer warranty and quite a decent track reliability wise. And its quite a lot more exclusive right now since its not selling as much as the competition. The G80 just stomps the ES. The ES probably has very little aspects in favour. The hybrid is quite efficient and refined. But you can get that from a Camry too. And being a simpler car will probably make it a more reliable and economic car to own. One of those double wishbone arms in the G80 probably cost more than the entire front suspension on the Lex.

[@lewishamilton9251]

lesxus gs

[@aircanuck]

We went from last gen G80 to Volvo XC90. Absolutely love the XC90, would be an easy re-lease, however, I do miss the quietness of the 80, so we may get lured back in the next two years, maybe to the SUV or even back into the G80. For us, it was the level of luxury, refinement for the dollar and lack of brand recognition/public perception. I place a high value on Genesis' ability to provide higher levels of luxury while laying low. The Bowers system in the XC90 is incredible, but the Lexicon is no slouch either and the isolated interior certainly helps. Amazing review as always.

[@savagegeese]

Yeah, I wound up with an XC90 as well for many of the same reasons. Ill talk more about that in GV80 video

[@limpunsing224]

The channel has big steps forward, it's better than ever

[@Mr4Seven]

Okay now genesis has my attention. My S-class might have a new competitor. 🧐

[@syedalam6363]

I agree with everything you said except for the identity. I think finally Genesis has found their identity. GV70 G70 GV80 G80 they now look like a part of the family. 2 lines will be what describes Genesis in the future.

[@PlusBones]

the tac going counter clockwise is freaking me out.

[@stimpy1414]

That drove me crazy when I saw it.

[@machtschnell7452]

So Aston.

[@ekscalybur]

@@machtschnell7452 It should stay with Aston.

[@Avalk9724]

Who cares? You don't even need a tach in an automatic luxury car. RR don't have a tach in their cars

[@stimpy1414]

@@Avalk9724 but this has a tach and it goes the wrong way.

[@brocky]

This is a super quality review. Especially when you cover what it looks like below and an overview of the suspensions. Impressive. With that said I wish Genesis went with hybrid lineup instead of turbo.

[@BrianBuehler]

Couch on wheels is the vehicle my wife really wants so it seems like one of these used in a few years would be perfect (she prefers used cars).

[@mattscullin5844]

I was thinking the same, especially if the warranty is transferrable. I like comfortable cruisers.

[@Wasabi9111]

I looked at the 2017/2018 used prices and they’re not as cheap as everyone thought. The rate of depreciation is really not any greater than comparable bmws. But I’m sure they’re much more reliable than a comparable bmw.

[@mattscullin5844]

I like the Kia Cadenza too. Used 2017s are even cheaper. While not quite in the same league as the Genesis, I think of them as sort of a Korean Buick.

[@billybob1511]

@@Wasabi9111 Yep, BMW's hold their value really well...!

[@benhaze1010]

Let's appreciate a major design factor for the North East and Canada. Extensive aluminum suspension components extends the longevity of the vehicles in addition of the weight and design advantages. Lexus/Acura/Mazda are not doing it so let give credit to where it is earned (German vehicles and perhaps Genesis from now on).

[@layers442]

Another great review indeed. Good job guys!

[@ChrisWalksFast]

Jack was much more sombre in this episode after that previous Acura TLX review haha. Loved that episode, keep up the good work gentlemen!

[@CH-qt4hr]

“Say ‘four popper’ one more time! I dare you!”

[@explodeder]

I grew up in farm country Illinois but havent lived there in about 20 years. These videos always make me feel nostalgic for the area I grew up in.

[@obturate3965]

I live in farm country Illinois and can tell you to be thankful you escaped this wretched state.

[@explodeder]

@@obturate3965 I moved to the west coast and only miss it when I watch these videos and when looking at home prices. Everything else is so much better here.

[@obturate3965]

@@explodeder Not sure you should miss the home prices in Illinois. Property taxes are among the highest in the nation, and home ownership may not be a wise financial move. I expect to eventually sell my home at a loss after over 20 years of blood, sweat and tears improving it. At least on the west coast your home may increase in value. Nope, there is nothing to like about Illinois.

[@explodeder]

@@obturate3965 You’re probably right. And realistically I’m never going to move back. That being said, I could buy a decent home in Central Illinois outright with the profit I’d make off of the house we bought in 2016.

[@obturate3965]

@@explodeder The state of Illinois could be great with its fertile soil and hard working people (at least downstate), but I am afraid the politicians have damaged it beyond recovery.

[@baronvonjo1929]

I really love Genesis design language.

[@philhenderson3516]

This new G80, despite the added power of the 3.5T and reduction in weight, is slower to 60mph and the 1/4 mile when compared to the 2018-2020 G80 Sport with the 3.3T. That car weighed 300lbs more than this new one. Not sure if the new transmission tuning has something to do with it, or if this new engine's combustion is being restricted for emission purposes. Could also explain why Hyundai/Kia opted not to feature this engine in the G70 and Stinger. Perhaps it needs extra tuning and is not yet ready for prime time performance like the 3.3T. Any thoughts on this, Savagegeese?

[@spoonkies]

People always praise genesis on these vids and car journals, but you never see them on the road

[@jjjiljjjj]

Because the majority of "car enthusiasts" on the internet are teenage boys.

[@spoonkies]

@@jjjiljjjj Thats what I’m saying. I work a corporate job, and the people that these car companies are targeting are high income professionals. Most of the time they’ll just go with an established brand because they don’t delve too much into the details and “value” isn’t what drives their decision (if value really mattered, you could get a tricked out Toyota Avalon with every creature comfort)

[@hissingoose]

because when people spend that kind of money for that kind of car and want it to last a long time they end up with an acura or a lexus. if they're looking for a short term image car, smart people, like my dentist, will typically lease an Audi/BMW/Mercedes for 24-36 months, rinse, repeat.

[@roach265]

@@hissingoose yes because having a car note for the rest of your life is so smart!

[@artix640]

I totally agree with Mark at the end in regards to the dealer network. I walk into KIA with a check and they’re treating me like some punk wasting time and being oddly rude. Lexus experience across the street in comparison were so friendly and inviting. This stuff matters, especially if Hyundai is serious about competing with the established brands.

[@diamondd2778]

Can every commentator not go! its not a sports car!? Not everyone wants a sports car!!!!!!! Some peeps want a luxury cruiser which is reliable!

[@OTBkid]

This. Hoovie changed my mind on these luxury turned sports car. So I went for an older Volvo. Cushy leather seats AWD and a float feel suspension. The seats dont have to pinch you, it's nice to sprawl and cruise.

[@filippkhan3935]

Yep. In my opinion, something like the Lincoln Town Car never got replaced in the market.

[@jesserhodes7430]

i looked at the Genesis platform. talked to someone in the dealership who was there for a service. his big complaint was that the Genesis platform needs its own dedicated dealerships. he was frustrated with getting service at hyundai dealerships and mentioned getting repairs can be a pain.

[@edweagle]

It is a shame you have such a dealership issue down there, in Canada it seems completely different

[@adamlamberti1805]

This is simply the best auto review channel on KZbin.

[@JPInniss]

I love my Genesis but I agree with the dealer experience, coming from BMW. Hyundai has A LOT to learn. I hate bringing my car in for service, but I love my car and I almost hate it that this new Genesis looks this good.

[@kekistanifreedomfighter014]

What the heck the last two months i havent seen SG videos on my subscribed list. Now i got a ton to watch.

[@krissz22]

Did he just say you will lease it because of the "depreciation".... Okay after selling cars for a while i realized Americans have a hard time understanding how this wokrs.... a Lease is a rental agreement in which you agree to pay the Depreciation of the vehicle and some build in interest while the vehicle is in your hands. There for if a car depreciates faster then other cars you are by NO MEANS ESCAPING THAT, YOU ARE THE ONE PAYING IT. Also because it's a new vehicle in depreciates most under the lease.....

[@krissz22]

@Maciej Badower that's pretty much correct I like cars that are say 3-4year old with 20-40k miles I know I'll get another 70k out no problem for me that's 5-6years

[@9546aw]

Question unanswered: Do you get a spare tire or a can of shaving cream? Nothing like being stuck in the middle of nowhere and there is nothing you can do because you don't have a spare.

[@Maelstrom8]

Crazy that they wont let you pay cash. I love what Genesis is doing with their lineup but forcing customers into financing contracts is ridiculous. They need to scrap that policy ASAP.

[@avikhalder1185]

In Canada, dealership experience is great because they don't have any. Here, Genesis and Tesla, the buying/leasing experience is the same. Test drive it at your home and lease it using the online tool.

[@Hotsaucedeluxe]

5:05 LOL fuck me I wasn't expecting that

[@tim850csi]

I nearly purchased a G70 two weeks ago. The dealership experience was horrid. They weren't selling a 45k G70. They acted like they were selling a elantra. It was horrible.

[@Syncopia]

Jack just vibin' in the back. Gangnam style is a very appropriate track for such a nice Hyundai, I mean, genesis.

[@QuickQuips]

The G90 is the best car to do that in. Especially the version where you can push the passenger seat forward.

[@pazpark]

Am I missing something? Isn't the more likely cross-shoppers of the G80 are Lexus, Acura or more specifically replace the market share where Infiniti use to hold? Its odd that Mark and Jack would mostly focus on the comparisons with German brands. To me, G80 is trying to compete with the Japanese car makers, by infusing in the more traditional comfort-oriented luxury car (e.g. Lexus ES) with a flavor of german-feel (rear-wheel biased drive).

[@tonysterbenc]

If they're trying to combine Japanese and German attributes, why is reasonable to think they're competing with the Japanese but unreasonable to think they're competing with the Germans?

[@johnridesadv2512]

Read a rumor over on Parlor that Jack and Turbowski have been scheming behind your back and are planning their own auto review channel titled Furious Ducks.

[@oldsnwbrdr]

“You’re probably going to lease this”...... no, it’s because of depreciation that these lease poorly. Hopefully this and the other new Geneses will improve market perception and resale values.