2024 Magic Keyboard iPad Review - I Can't Believe Apple Didn't Catch This

[@richieb74]

i can't beleive that dog just sits there and watches you. he's a good boy!

[@thomasmolina9935]

I thought it was a stuffed animal 😅

[@Treborray]

I can’t believe I didn’t even notice the dog! Omg

[@holdenzimmerle]

Monty is a legend!

[@devinevee8684]

I was thinking this dog must be highly trained lol

[@desmondflores4638]

I have yet to see anyone else mention this. Appreciate your honesty.

[@KeyboardG23]

I love my new set up I am not having any issues that I didn’t see with the last iteration. So far so good I like using it day to day.

[@galefraney]

I think he has a faulty keyboard because my new keyboard for the M4 13" iPad Pro is rigid and perfectly stable. My hinge fits flush on the desk, whereas in this video he says that his hinge doesn't sit flush, so I'm guessing that he either has a faulty keyboard or else his desk is not level.

[@KeyboardG23]

@@galefraney Truth be told I can see what he is talking about about my hinge isn’t completely flush it is a fraction of an inch higher than the bottom of the keyboard its barely noticeable but I can see it.

[@dandansfu]

Coz most tech KZbinr are either Afraid to piss off apple Or They love apple so much that they overlook a lot of things when reviewing new products Beside the bigger the KZbinr , they usually are more reserved and focus on playing a personalities with over stylized editing

[@galefraney]

@@dandansfu ... that's interesting. My hinge is perfectly flush with my desk and is definitely taking part of weight load, so mine is perfectly stable and doesn't wiggle at all when I use the touch screen. Mine is a 13" M4 iPad, with the new keyboard that fits the 13". Another person mentioned that the issue might be with the keyboard for the 11" M4 iPad Pro ... I'll have to go back and rewatch the video to see if his is an 11" or 13". My keyboard is as stable and sturdy as a tank, no movement at all.

[@denisforbes]

Can’t remember the last time I watched a 4 minute product review, bloody awesome, no guff no padding just the real deal from a down to earth guy. Bonus drinking game, each time he inadvertently flexes those beasts!

[@canontk]

I've been using one since release, it's a little easier to tip it over than the previous version but it's not as bad as he's making it out to be. The feel of the trackpad is lightyears better, it's worth the upgrade.

[@sly2792004]

Try it on your lap if you could other reviews I saw showed it to be less tippy when on your lap due to knew hinge design. Current one will fall backwards soon as you don’t have hand on the keyboard.

[@iron_recluse]

@@sly2792004exactly… you can’t use this on your lap at all

[@bad.chickie66]

@@sly2792004it’s worse on your lap or bed I’ve seen others review it.

[@dragoh7102]

It’s not worth the upgrade 😂

[@Harvey017]

Maybe it’s just me, but if you’re gonna spend over $300 for a keyboard, it better be perfect.

[@Bertya2178]

I have old one and new one side by side, using normal touch force, I don’t see this as a problem, unless you touching the very upper edge of the screen.

[@RameshKumar-ng3nf]

My friends who has purchased the new magic keyboard for new ipad pro , they too have the same thoughts saying they didn't like that. They liked the previous magic keyboard . Will wait for your take on it. Edited : Saw your full review just now and its great , nobody shared it till now . Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@plynx3765]

Mine is rock solid and stable, with the rear part perfectly flush. Not sure what’s going on with yours.

[@whitemailprivilege2830]

Are you using the 11” or the 13”?

[@plynx3765]

@@whitemailprivilege2830 13”

[@VoltX_1]

@@whitemailprivilege2830no answer is brutal

[@jaedevrick]

Are you sure you’re using the new one for the pro??? because they all definitely rock

[@plynx3765]

@@jaedevrick yes

[@fadedlogic1]

the rubber gasket is used a a standoff to prevent the keys from pressing/imprinting on the screen

[@LarryFasnacht]

I’ve examined the gap between the aluminum palm rest and the screen. I can’t see any light through it. I too am not happy about anodized metal touching the screen, so I’m using a very thin micro fiber cloth to cover that area when I close it. Not really a problem for me. I do the same thing on my MacBook.

[@Wiseguy1138]

@@LarryFasnachtor just get a screen protector. That’s what I’ve done for every iPad (currently rocking the M1 with the last gen Magic Keyboard…I know it’s not metal but I didn’t want finger oil smudges on my screen so I just got a tempered glass screen protector, easily cleanable & if it ever breaks from a drop or something, super cheap to replace.

[@chan13153]

@@Wiseguy1138 Yeah glass is glass. A screen protector is always something you should put on a device like this.

[@alau0115]

After going to an Apple Store nearby to compare the new keyboard and the last generation one, I know what he refers to. It is something to do with the extra tilt angle the new keyboard has provided. Strangely, if you just leave both keyboards sitting on the desk WITHOUT any iPad attached and you try to do the same among of poking or taping the top portion of either keyboards, both don’t move at all or I should say the base of both keyboards are heavy enough to stand still properly without any complaints or any usability issues. So it must be the extra tilt angle. Remedy just like people have commented is to add some weight to the bass of the new keyboard. For Apple, I think adding extra weight to the base is not something they want as it would affect the portability a bit. After all, when the new iPad Pro has been made much lighter, nobody wants to add extra weight because of the keyboard.

[@ThomasVanderWal]

I talked with a few friends who had just picked up the M4 iPad Pro 13 with the new Magic Keyboard and asked about this and they said it was rather solid. I didn't believe them after watching your video. I have now been to a couple Apple Stores and tried this and of the 15 or so new iPad Pro 13 with new Magic Keyboard and can't get them to move much at all. You may have received on that is defective and should be returned. I asked a couple Apple Geniuses about this who said they had seen your video and tested everything that was in their store and has cycled through display and training and couldn't replicate it. But, said if there is one with an issue to return it and they will replace it.

[@marg8315]

Interestingly I’ve not noticed this issue on my new iPad Pro 11 inch but I’m gonna test it now. Update: this issue doesn’t exist on the 11 inch model. I been using it since launch date and didnt notice this and just retested it after seeing this video, and believe it’s fine unless you “push” the iPad. Tapping/Apple Pencil works just fine on either a table or on my lap.

[@bradsobo]

What did you find with the 11 inch?

[@dinolarsson]

I've got the new 11 inch too and would sure like to know as well! Going caseless right now, deciding between keyboard and smart folio

[@marg8315]

@@bradsoboi got home and tested it just now. Not an issue on 11 inch.

[@marg8315]

@@dinolarssonjust tested it on the 11 inch model and im happy to report that this issue doesnt exist on the 11 inch model.

[@dinolarsson]

@@marg8315 Thankd 👍 I thought it wouldn't be a problem as the 11" is not as wide

[@KeyboardG23]

I like your video but can I be seriously honest. I have the 13 inch new set up (2024) both iPad Pro and the new keyboard and so far I love it!

[@valuemastery]

Thanks for pointing out that dealbreaker. I didn't notice it myself, having used the new Magic Keyboard with the iPad Pro 13 inch for a couple days now. The flipping over to the back never happened to me, so I didn't notice. After inspection, I found that I did not push hard enough on the iPad screen to have this problem. And I also made the mistake of having my palms on the keyboard most of the time; when touching the screen I only lifted one hand up, and the other stayed on the palmrest of the keyboard. After I corrected both of my mistakes (I now make sure I don't use the palmrests and push harder on the screen), it flips over for me too, and I can return it. Thanks.

[@maicholor2849]

The problem comes when you learn new habits that will make the rocking more pronounced and irritating, it's still an imperfection that Apple need to address before it becomes a bigger issue than it needs to be!

[@DickTurpin-tk6vd]

Loved this thanks for giving me a chuckle haha

[@dorseymcintosh9754]

I’ve not noticed any stablity problems with touching the iPad screen. Mine is very stable and does not ‘bounce.’ I’m not experiencing anything like you are presenting. Maybe the unit you picked up was looser? BTW, the Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard Case was available in my Apple Store the same day of 1st availability of the iPad Pro M4 (May 15) for $229.59, $70 less. I bought it and the Magic Keyboard and tested them at home, liking both. But, I went with the Magic Keyboard because I use a lapdesk sitting on the couch a lot with my iPad and the kickstand flap of the Logitech case would easily slide over the upper edge of my lapdesk, allowing it to fall off easily. The solid base of the Magick Keyboard did not and provided much better stablilty. So, I went with it! Thanks for the great review. I’m appreciating the 6 or 7 good differences you pointed out before you went to your rant.

[@OweEyeSea]

I've been using the new keyboard a few days and hadn't noticed the problem you described. So I did a little testing just now. I found I only have the rocking issue if a tilt the iPad all the way back, which I guess I don't do. It's much more stable when the screen isn't tilted all the way back.

[@iuruoy-shao]

according to some other comments, it only occurs on the 13" probably due to the weight. do you have the 11" or 13"?

[@eclipses3131]

Almost every problem he had with the keyboard was something I felt the new keyboard did right. Love the big trackpad, love the switch to metal since I HATED HATED the material of the previous version. You could clearly see all the marks on his old keyboard when he picked it up. Sadly the outside of the keyboard still has the same material. I do find it weird that the keyboard rocks back and forth but I hardly ever have a problem with it. When I touch my screen I always place my other hand behind the case / tablet. It’s a reflex I’ve always with touch screen computers which is what this iPad basically is.

[@jonmcdaniel]

I can appreciate your opinion, but I do not have the same issue. Mine behaves almost exactly as the older one did. If you press hard onto it, it can be unstable. I prefer the wider range of angle on the new, as well as the other improvements.

[@galefraney]

My new M4 iPad Pro keyboard for the M4 iPad Pro is perfectly stable and does not sway or rock the way yours appears to rock back and forth in your video. Mine is 100% stable and rigid with no problems at all. I use the touch screen as often as I use the keyboard, so it is super important that the screen remains stable and rigid on the new keyboard. So either your desk is not level, or else maybe your new keyboard is faulty. You show that your hinge does not sit flush on the desk, whereas my hinge sits perfectly flush on my desk. I love the new keyboard, it feels super comfortable and natural, wonderful trackpad and function keys, everything is completely intuitive.

[@robert-73]

I have to agree it either his table or keyboard. I have not notice that effect either. In fact I like the new setup way better than old. For starts the entire setup is light enough that I am leaving the iPad in keyboard. Something I did not do with the old setup. The weight was not worth the benefit.

[@Tempest261]

Same here. I tried to reproduce what he’s showing here and I just can’t. I mean if I really hit it hard with my finger it might move a little. But something isn’t right here.

[@djbakasan]

My M4 iPad pro w/ Magic Keyboard doesn’t sway as seen in the video but with some force can be rocked back a bit. On the whole the hinge seems much stiffer over the previous gen. My M1 iPad with its Magic Keyboard won’t fall completely over but exhibits quite a bit of bounce with use, similar to what’s seen here but without the need for much effort at all. It’s likely do to what to me, feels like a less stiff hinge. Mine also has the rubber coating on the palm rest areas peeling up quite significantly and from the corners. So in my experiences at least, hasn’t had the same durability as his. Willing to believe perhaps I’m an outlier. Very hopeful the new metal body of the new keyboard holds up better.

[@maciekb26]

Same. No problem on my 13 inch IPad and new Magic Keyboard…

[@danfoxchannel]

I just tested mine and it doesn’t wobble like this either. I’m thinking he got a defective one.

[@Aaron_Bleu]

I love the feel of the keyboard but the wobble makes it nearly unusable when on the lap. May not be an issue with the 11’ but with my 13’ it gets annoying and I ended up using an old iPad case under it. When using on a table it’s perfect though

[@JeffMyers409]

It’s great that you showed us this, but I don’t know about it being a fatal flaw. I hardly touch the screen when my keyboard is attached. Will be even less with a function row.

[@ajtrek3873]

I have the new iPad Pro 13 Keyboard case and I’ve found that the tipping only occurs at the very extreme angle of backward tilt for the iPad Pro 13 screen. That angle is quite honestly too far back for my viewing. The first level of backward tilt doesn’t have the tipping effect with normal contact with the screen (i.e. Apple Pencil or finger). I had to push with much more than normal force to get the keyboard to tip (at the angle I prefer) and get the reaction as described in the video. So in conclusion IMO it really depends on the degree of backward tilt that one uses with the Keyboard case.

[@MedievalRichard]

Recently purchased my first iPad being a iPad Air 11" M2 2024. However, I was not prepared to pay the arse price tag of £300 of the Apple Magic keyboard and after what you said on your review! So I got a 3rd party one for £75 and its great - Techgear.

[@LtDan-pz6yx]

The issue is also when you butterfly the keyboard open. Now it slides bc it’s metal hinge. The old one NEVER slid around just to open it. I’m putting a small form piece and it fixes the sliding and the rocking.

[@sidewinder3000]

The sliding! That seems like another design flaw. Of course you would want something that makes it grippy, so that it doesn’t slide. Great suggestion. It’s a bummer if Apple put aesthetics over function. Hopefully this is a manufacturing flaw, not a design flaw.

[@LtDan-pz6yx]

@@sidewinder3000 it seems it’s easier to butterfly it open from flat but I haven’t figured out the best place to grab the screen to flip up…

[@justinjones2973]

The wobble!!! A few people have mentioned it!! Glad I am still rocking with the OG keyboard, it hasn’t failed me yet

[@LarryFasnacht]

I never “almost never” use the iPad on a hard surface. You should try it on your lap. There is a similar but potentially worse problem. I’ve had it almost tip over onto the floor.

[@jpflo698]

The old Magic Keyboard is a fantastic design. Had mine for 4 years for both my original iPad Pro and the more recent m2 version. Has held up great. The only flaw was the lack of function keys…if Apple had just added that row of keys in the new design, it would have been perfect.

[@stevenherbst]

My man, you and Monty make the best videos! You put so much work into editing these super useful videos. My respect!

[@omarbarron1767]

I just purchased the Magic Keyboard that is stand alone with an apple mouse for my iPad Pro 12.9 and I like it feels fluid and the mouse is great! Typing feels good. and best of all half the price of a Magic Keyboard ….

[@JackieDElia]

I just bought the iPad Pro 6th GEN this week at BestBuy to replace my 3rd gen, specifically for the reasons you mentioned, and the fact that I would have to purchase a new pencil. I had no interest in purchasing the latest version from Apple.

[@PackFan2323]

Rubber edges protect screen or cause wear? No worry - add an $8 screen protector. No rocking, I don’t use an Apple Pencil and.. - it’s always on my lap. Haptic feedback touchpad is much better. Aluminum is a nice improvement. So overall a win for me. Oh and mine is the 11”. Maybe more issues with larger unit.

[@BUCKINUT]

I have the old magic keyboard and it has been great holding up exceptionally well. No complaints.

[@MaximusOD12]

I noticed the same problem with my 13 inch pro keyboard… I’m thinking about returning still

[@Ivorberry]

I had the old keyboard and I now have the new which is light years ahead in my opinion. The so called stability issue , is not an issues for me because if I use the keyboard I don’t keep touching the screen (is that not the basic reason for the keyboard?). I find it very stable for me . The big improvement for me is the backlit keys , the lack of which caused me to stop using the old keyboard. You did not mention my one and only gripe so far. The case gets so marked and it for some reason almost impossible to clean . why did apple not use the material peak design uses in their cases ? smudge free, better feel and last for years

[@MikeG1111_]

Do you have white or black? I liked the look of both, but heard the white one shows dirt more easily which makes sense.

[@sbrunner1234]

Not that you have a choice: you get a new M4 iPad, your choice is either to get the new MKB, or get none at all. The weight and balance of the iPad/MKB combination changed, and hence the old MKB no longer attaches to the new iPad Pros. The electrical connections are the same, and probably the digital protocol, but the positioning of the magnets changed. It is a bit wobblier, particularly if you have it on your lab. Otherwise, the new MKB is great. Although, I missed the ESC key a million times, not many apps support it. It is going to be nice for vi, though.

[@arugula]

Stability is a major issue with the new keyboard. I purchased it along with a new iPad Pro and had to return it bc it would fall over when I placed it on soft surfaces like my couch or bed. Instead, I bought the new iPad Air and the old keyboard, which doesn’t tip over when placed on soft surfaces.

[@javiernegrin8807]

You just earned my subscription. I haven’t seen anybody else spotting this flaw. Well done. Let’s see if Apple updates the older Magic Keyboard for the rest of the IPad Pro line up too. I am currently the owner of an IPad Pro 12.9 M1 and I would like to get the haptic trackpad and the extra row of function keys, even if they leave out the fancy aluminum stuff! Cheers everybody

[@wendio5437]

I have been shocked by how well my white Magic Keyboard has held up for the last 4 years. I don’t even have any marks that I couldn’t wipe off and I take my iPad everywhere. That rocking on the new one would be a deal breaker for sure!!

[@SlitheringDemon]

Based on user reports, the issue only exists on 1- 13 inch model and 2- when one taps hard and tilts it back too much.

[@shahidkamal]

I find that the rocking is an issue even when I’m typing. If I don’t have an absolutely level surface, the screen is bouncing all over the place, particularly when the iPad is tilted all the way back.

[@Lewis_Lou]

Monty just watching you speak and being so interested and engaged in what your doing is so sweet 🥺💕

[@listening-glistening]

I’m so glad I came across your review. I was planning on going to the Apple Store today, but, man, that IS a dealbreaker for me as well. Thanks for saving me the trouble, and from buyer’s remorse.

[@PNWresistance]

I haven’t had trouble with it rocking. When you’re typing you usually have your other wrist on the key board when you touch the screen….

[@GadgetB1]

The only time that is an issue is if you have the iPad tilted all the way back. I just tried it at my normal viewing angle and it’s rock solid. I could see this being an issue if someone is trying to draw on the iPad at that angle, otherwise most people will probably never experience it. I assume most people who draw on the iPad don’t do it docked to the keyboard.

[@suebeelee915]

Thank you so much - I was on the fence and now I am convinced to not waste my money. Your video is !00% on point.

[@mdribblecastle]

Interesting, that’s not a big problem on my 11” Magic Keyboard (M4). It might wobble just a slight bit on a hard surface but not like yours. The 11” is likely weighted differently or maybe you got a keyboard with fit/finish problems? Kinda would expect you to have already double checked that knowing your background in reviewing products. Here is one benefit you didn’t mentioned, at least on the 11”. You can open it from closed, on a hard surface without two hands. Similar to a MacBook. At least you can until you get ready to tilt the screen back where you need a bit of counterbalancing weight. Much nicer than the previous magic keyboard overall IMO. I just don’t love the white/silver look as much this year, but i still think that is the better color to avoid all the grease stained look that the black model ends up with.

[@inhaleexhale]

Wow, thank you for being HONEST! You just earned yourself a new subscriber! That is indeed a fatal flaw. I hate it when Apple puts flaws into brand new products because they may not get fixed for years.

[@Sojourner88]

I don’t think the rocking is an issue. When you use it as a keyboard you have the trackpad that you should be using like you would on a laptop. In most cases, using the trackpad is much faster than lifting your whole hand and arm to touch the screen. Use of the pencil in that position is also ergonomically terrible. In summary, what you’re experiencing is not a ‘design flaw’, but the result of ergonomic misuse of the device. I’ve also found on the rare instances where I do use the touch screen it does not wobble anywhere near as much as you demonstrate - I’m just touching the screen, not poking at it like I’m trying to poke someone hard in the eye.

[@JEQvideos]

I have never had a keyboard for my Ipad, which I use primarily for drawing. I'm thinking about getting one for the new ipad, so this morning I went to the Apple store to test it out. The model I was using was the 11" and it was on the new keyboard. I was drawing and tapping on the screen with the new pencil and didn't notice anything like this wobble. So either this is an issue for the larger size on the keyboard, he is reviewing a defective one (or something's wonky with his table), or the display at the Apple store is somehow doing a great job hiding this issue. I was drawing and tapping on the screen for about 15 minutes and never had any wobble or felt like it was going to fall over.

[@robert-73]

It not an issue with my 13 inch iPad Pro m4,. There several others that said something similar in another comment on this video so I say he got defective one or it an issue with his table

[@jrichardson6]

Hi Mobile Reviews! Great content and i have bought quite a few of the products you recommend !🎉 I have to totally disagree with this tippy thing though ! I have the 11 in version and it’s pretty solid. If I have to do a lot of drawing or poking with apple pencil or finger on the screen i usually just take the ipad out of the magic keyboard. But for typing on a flat surface it’s fine. The most annoying thing about this keyboard is the stupid sharp edge all the way around the perimeter outside edge on both halves of the magic keyboard . These sharp plasticky raised ridges are there I believe to protect the uncovered edge of the ipad to stop it getting dinged. It’s not such a problem with the screen half but the keyboard side cuts into your belly when you are lying on bed /sofa with the keyboard which is quite the case for a lot of users i’m sure 😂 My solution - I just got a very sharp kraft knife or scalpel and carefully cut the offending white ridge off all the way around the keyboard then sanded it smooth with 320 grit aluminium oxide sandpaper. It works a treat, so smooth and no more uncomfortable ridge cutting into hands or belly! As for protection the screen side is still intact so there’s that and if I go on holiday or to the office I always slip the ipad and magic keyboard into a soft envelope type case or into one of those padded jiffy bags you sometimes get from amazon. My instinct tells me the next iteration of this keyboard will have completely closed and therefore protected sides on the ipad (vertical) half and nice smooth tactile edges on the keyboard sides to aid user comfort .

[@KYYYYY817]

That’s really honest opinion, and the video is short and sweet, great content. thank you!!

[@Towerr72]

Just returned mine . Typing on it was fine but as soon as I used the pencil to try writing in it , it started rocking . Hopefully Apple will release a revision 2 in the near future

[@jeromescott2113]

I’ve been using the new Magic Keyboard with my iPad Pro and while it is a little less steady than the previous versions, this has yet to be an issue for me. If you’re touching it during regular use, it’s not that big of a deal. When using the Apple Pencil, I’m not using it attached to the keyboard anyway. Fair to point out, but the other improvements more than outweigh this minor issue to me. I’ve used the Logitech Combo Touch in the past, and it is way too bulky and not as premium as this. But it may work better for some people.

[@sidewinder3000]

After seeing this review, the question isn’t whether or not the new improvements are good, and worthwhile, but how the heck could a design flaw like this make it through design and testing? It sounds like all they have to do is make that back piece sit flush and it would solve the problem. It just seems like such an unnecessary thing .

[@td4611]

I have this keyboard and yes, it’s certainly a con but not a deal breaker. I’m waiting until they come out with the next generation and will buy it.

[@m.albusmait3386]

That rubber thingy on the keyboard is to let the ipad screen sit on it while its closed so it doesn’t gets scratched from the aluminum surface of the keyboard

[@bradarnold7834]

I have been using the new keyboard since release day and I haven’t noticed it being any tippier than the old one but the old one. That said, the old one was already pretty unbalanced. and the rubber on my old 2021 Magic Keyboard has been peeling and falling apart for the last year. This thing seems like an upgrade on all fronts in my book, even if it isn’t perfect.

[@airstreamers]

I’ve been using this all week and I this specific issue mentioned is way over-exaggerated. Unless you’re forcefully pushing at the very top of the iPad, there really is no issue at all. I had been using the prior Magic Trackpad for around 4 years. The trackpad upgrade is MASSIVE (It feels like going from the mechanical trackpad of the OLD Mac laptops to the new Force Touch pads) - Also, the function row is a necessary addition. Overall I’m SUPER satisfied!

[@IndominusDad]

Thank you for this! I was going crazy watching other videos; no one mentioned this design flaw. It is also worth pointing out that lapability is almost thrown out the window due to the rocking. It does not have the same balance as the previous generation and is nearly unusable in your lap. Thanks Apple!

[@_SurferGeek_]

Your negative point for the new keyboard is the same reason I never got onboard with the touch screen laptops. Touching the screen not only moves the laptop but for whatever reason, I'm fine with fingerprints on tablets/phones but can't stand them on a laptop screen. If you don't already have a keyboard, the overall positive points make getting the new one worthwhile.

[@dandansfu]

I respectfully disagree I don’t think ppl want touch screen so they can use it like iPad but more like an option Just like there are times Touch ID is better sometimes faceid is faster Or there are times your finger is better and faster than using Apple Pencil It’s about options and there are times , when I’m showing clients presentation or slides and there are times it’s just easier and quicker to have touch screen for that quick moment Just like ALways on display they should give us option if u don’t like it don’t do it If they can let you choose to pay for nano texture they can also let user choose if they want to pay extra

[@_SurferGeek_]

@@dandansfu There's a reason that touch screen laptops never really took off. Much like 3D televisions. You're talking about niche use cases. Laptops used to be relegated to corporate/business use with desktops being the much larger base of users. Now that's flipped and the average laptop user doesn't need or want touch screens.

[@dandansfu]

@@_SurferGeek_ what are you talking about never take off. almost all pc laptop have them, and the ones who dont are coz they are budget friendly. and constantly ppl are asking for it to a point that apple has to make statement over and over and over, they just recently did. it is fine if you dont think you need it, but please dont act like there is no demand for it.

[@BV35]

FANTASTIC VIDEO! I was unimpressed with this new keyboard but eyeing an M4 Pro - now will wait for the third party. Honestly I was open Apple would have come out with a keyboard folio for the Pro similar to Magic Keyboard Folio for iPad where the keyboard part can be removed. Going to wait for the 3rd parties to see. Thanks!

[@bobvee1694]

Important distinction here is the size of the iPad. The Magic Keyboard for the 11” IPad does not have this tipping problem and is miles better than the earlier version. Note that the 11” version does not include the function keys.

[@grumpychocobo]

Countdown until someone more willing than me makes and sells a strip of material with adhesive that will stick on the back of that hinge making it touch the table when open.

[@wings400]

Can the rocking be fixed by sticking a thin strip on the bottom of the hinge?

[@Aiii83]

Yeah, added some small rubber feet to each end of the hinge and that’s fixed it for me. Apple should’ve caught this, but it’s an easy enough cheap fix, luckily.

[@sidewinder3000]

It’s unflattering for Apple to need workarounds and jerry-rigging for a brand new product. Hope they can come up with a fix, either for the design or the production, whichever is the cause.

[@MikeG1111_]

@@sidewinder3000 Indeed. Especially considering Apple's price point.

[@MrKlawUK]

I forgive almost any small issues like that for the simple difference in quality and usability of the new trackpad. The old one was unusable in a quiet situaiton like you don’t want to disturb a partner - it was so loud. New one is almost silent, its a massive upgrade

[@The12th_]

Exactly the point I hated most about the old one! People in the reviews don’t mention it at all (besides the trackpad) or just say, ‘the keys feel the same.’ Well, to me, feeling and sound go hand in hand in this case, and since I finally got my hands on a new keyboard in a showroom, I like this keyboard a lot! It’s really close to the MacBook’s. On the other hand, the screen-touching issue mentioned in the video is a bummer. But with the old one, I was also displeased every time I had to touch the iPad. :-/

[@NYCarGuy]

I just tap the trackpad instead of clicking it. Same as on the MBP trackpad. Come to think of it, I never really clicked the trackpad on my magic keyboard at all.

[@JamesR624]

"I forgive almost any small issues like that " $300 keyboard for your tablet that makes the tablet experience suck despite it not having an actual desktop OS so you're EXPECTED to have ONLY the tablet experience..... Yeah, not sure why you're forgiving this or claiming it's a "small" issue.

[@Norp-i7m]

...until it tips over and falls to the floor.

[@MrKlawUK]

@@JamesR624 It was exaggeration obviously but its still a big and not really mentioned benefit of the new vs the old. For me at least its been a big improvement over all from the previous one. Click trackpad, nicer palmrest, nicer keys. Its a tiny bit wobblier but if you don’t punch the screen like in the video you should be fine, I’ve had no issues on a table or my lap and most probably won’t. I certainly wouldn’t just not buy it without at least checking it out vs other options. And yes it is stupidly expensive. But the regular magic keyboard and magic trackpad are almost as expensive. Doesn’t excuse it but I’ll get a good 3-4 years out of this like I did the previous one.

[@isaacpalmer3917]

I can't believe this isn't pointed out more. Nice work!

[@billkeyso9677]

The keyboard case was made for typing, and not writing or tapping on the iPad. So that rocking wouldn’t happen if you stick to main reason for keyboard, “typing”.

[@livendi3229]

Seriously, Val added such an incredible dynamic to the reviews . Truly never the same.

[@im4ch3t3dimachete5]

A tap is not a push so I really think it’s a non issue but my 11” should arrive Friday so I’ll test it

[@The_Calm_Chaos]

Very interesting. This is quite a deal breaker for some people. I wonder why no one else has picked up on this problem.

[@Stan_sprinkle]

I love the old version and I don’t really need function gees because I know my keyboard shortcuts really well. The biggest upgrade they could do is if they find a way to let you also put it in portrait mode as well. They would never do it because Apple would never make something that looks that in elegant where the top of the iPad is poking out over the top of the back of the keyboard. But It would be really nice if the magnets let you do that.

[@SaqibWaheed]

Is older iPad pro (12.9" 2020 4th Generation) Magic Keyboard compatible with the iPad air 11" (2024 6th Generation )with M2 chip ?

[@unmeitobaku4741]

Great video, funny title before it was edited. Also, this wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.. 😅

[@genehager8481]

I have been using the new iPad Pro with the new Magic Keyboard and have not experienced the rocking of the unit when using the touch screen. Maybe I just have a lighter tapping motion or a more grippy work surface as I have my work surface covered by an an old thin mousepad

[@mitchlewis535]

Wow! Great catch! Haven’t seen this mentioned on other KZbin reviews.

[@amyhampson931]

I agree so easy to tip it's been driving me crazy! Was literally feeling like I need a weight on the trackpad.

[@amyhampson931]

I have the new 13" Pro and was considering returning the Magic Keyboard.

[@greatkingrat]

I have the original keyboard from Apple. The seams around the sides are all failing and coming apart. I don’t think it’s holding together well. I have had it for about three years.

[@CallMeFil]

Straight to the point

[@BlueDroneBlues]

Poor Monty has to sit through these videos. LOL Love your dog! Question: Is the previous keyboard compatible with the newest iPad Pro? I keep wondering about that? My only frustration with this keyboard is my palms as I type would touch the touch pad and would cause it to do things I don’t want it to. Thank you for the video! ❤

[@Dhrazor]

You can probably double sided tape a 2mm thick foam/rubber strip to the back of the aluminum bar to eliminate some of the rocking(making it level with the bottom of the keyboard)... but that would be pretty jank... I don't really understand how they missed this...

[@krisersn3092]

What happened to Val?

[@KrAzY_K]

He couldn’t handle the positivity she brought probably and let her go

[@landshark1211]

Yes, I'm returning mine just because of the rocking

[@historical_lisa315]

Love your videos. And so happy you went back to the old format with just you and Monte.

[@svera6446]

Yes, the C saw action would drive me insane- i agree. An kudo’s on your vid’

[@picnicphoto]

Haven't noticed anyone mentioning use in lap---but I have the old one--for my M1 12.9 Pro but use in my lap 98% of the time. Not ready to upgrade (or downgrade to Air) but the keyboard will be considered.

[@sly2792004]

It’s interesting cause I’ve seen other reviews show that new one is less tippy when used on your lap then old one. I have old one and used anywhere other then table it likes to fall backwards due to weight if iPad. So new one not doing this is big plus for me. I’ve rarely ever used it on a flat surface.

[@BananaCakeGirl2023]

Unbelievable thank you for this video I’m not gonna get it for this reason. It’s absolutely ridiculous!

[@respect386]

It’s very notable that no other reviewer has mentioned this issue. Shows the extensiveness of your review process versus theirs.

[@uuee6666]

Or maybe shows that he’s trying to be contrarian to get more views? Lol

[@FORBIDCharlie1986]

Except its clockwork. People have been complaining about Apple being expensive since Apple existed.

[@respect386]

@@uuee6666 I mean it’s notable that literally none of the other reviews I watched mentioned this super obvious issue with a tablet keyboard. This isn’t a minor thing, you touch the iPad all the time in a keyboard case. If it was a minor issue sure, but this is pretty important.

[@respect386]

@@FORBIDCharlie1986not just that they’re expensive but that they miss obvious flaws sometimes at the expense of making things “thinner” and “lighter”.

[@Tony_A_441]

Facts and that’s why I continue to watch him.

[@ZensōMusic]

The tipping screen is a non-issue for me. I use the touch screen constantly both with fingertips and the Apple Pencil and the device has never tipped back once as shown in the review. If I purposely punch at the screen I can force it to tip, but it never does so in normal use.

[@joshthiel7187]

I was surprised that for this IPad release, when I decided it was finally time to replace my 2020 iPad Pro, I no longer had the desire to have the 13 inch version. Seemed redundant when I have a MacBook Air. Went with the 11in. M4 pro, and it does not share this flaw. I assume it is because it is a lighter weight device. But for anyone wondering, the 11in seems great for me so far.

[@Jbiglin]

Hey, first time on your channel. This was great! Clear to the point without a lot of unnecessary fluff. I learned what I needed in those four minutes and didn’t have to scroll through the video to find better information. Great job. Next step: time to check out your other videos and probably subscribe.

[@yanikem6655]

Great review - and as always, Monty is adorable! What is the third party keyboard you brought out, the one next to the Brydge with the hinges?

[@adolfoecs]

you save me big bucks!!! I was about to get it

[@marius_mac1093]

I have a question/request for you, can you test and or clarify if the new Magic Keyboard can close correctly if you add a glass screen protector? I haven’t been able to find an answer anywhere

[@sidewinder3000]

Wow, this seems like such an unnecessary misstep by Apple. Have you tested this out with other magic keyboards, to make sure it’s not a manufacturing flaw in yours? It’s just so hard to believe something like this could be released. If it is the case, I hope that your video sparks a bunch of people talking about this, and Apple Modifies the design. In the meantime, I imagine that maybe it would be possible to cut some thin strips of self adhesive vinyl to create an ad hoc “shim”. I was seriously considering updating my first generation iPad Pro and magic keyboard, and now I will have to press pause until I hear about a fix. Thanks for making this video.

[@2000mamamia]

Can’t agree more on this new MK hinge design fault. I got the 11” version iPad Pro m4 and it is a bit unstable on no flat surfaces such as on lap or bed. When I was tapping the screen on my lap, the iPad tipped over and hit the ground hard. The corner of MK got dented.

[@jackjmaheriii]

I’m watching his video because it has the answer in the thumbnail, and I stayed until the end because it’s all killer, no filler.

[@gabrielpeck7718]

What if you rest one hand on the keyboard while you touch the screen? Don't you think that would stop it from rocking? Just a question.

[@bort7258]

Hmmm, i went to an Apple store today to try to replicate this and i found the gen 1 had more wobble. Weird. Unless Apple has magnets on their demo tables, is it possible that maybe you got one that had something wrong with it? I was totally expecting a noticeable wobble. I mean if you push it hard enough it will but no more than the old one which was there with the new ipad air attached. Also, i only tried it on the 13’s, so not sure about the 11’s. 0:45

[@Barweezy]

The aluminum spine to the keyboard to me is a major flaw. It slips so easily when bringing the case up to open it. Nearly dropped the iPad a few times.

[@laurafowler2715]

I haven’t had a problem with a wobble. Also, I don’t tap at the very top of the screen that much.

[@bizybee8192]

Not really a deal breaker for me, if I used the keyboard ide just use the trackpad. I prefer the light weight assuming that's a big reason for this.

[@mikldude9376]

Good review mate , and Monte is the coolest pooch , on ya Monte !