2025 LDV D90 - Why Does it Cost MORE?

[@spyrop.8428]

My job is crunching numbers and here's my conclusion, just strictly based on numbers: The cheapest way to own a car is not to buy a car, just keep whatever you have for as long as you can, the longer the better. The second cheapest way is to buy used, and buy with cash, if you don't have the cash wait until you do, the more you wait the better. And here's my counterintuitive and controversial advice for Australia specifically: target used European cars. European cars have a bad reputation for unreliability and high cost of servicing, which is usually true, and Australians certainly know it, and that's why they have this fixation with Toyotas and they avoid used Euros like the plague. But here's the catch: sometimes they take it too far. Example: the Alfa Romeo Giulia, which has proven to be a fairly reliable car by any metric, however in Oz people act like it will blow up as soon you turn the key just because it's an Alfa, and that is reflected in the prices in the used market. That's an opportunity. There are a few cars like that, study the price drop curve by year and you will find plenty more in every segment. Pay a couple hundred for a proper used car inspection by a reputable mechanic before you buy anything. Also, unless you live the in bush and your life depends on absolute reliability, stay away from used Toyotas, in Australia they're overpiced (because there are actually a lot of people whose life depends on absolute reliability, Aussie countryside is harsh and remote. But that's unlikely to be you.)

[@T0nyGTSt]

i'm thinking the OLD d90 was underpriced... because they werent selling as well as they wanted... so the new one, they're going to aim high.. and THEN discount if needed... economics marketing 101... but this is pretty clear in the spec sheet... RWD model is 2,160kg - 2,235kg for 4wd... motor is 184kW and 410Nm... its going to be slow as the old one... to contrast the Tiggo 8 is 180kW 375Nm on 1,75 ton... big difference but if you need body on frame...get the diesel d90 if you truly want one

[@legogummybear5]

It's interesting. So many Chinese vehicles are currently being discounted by thousands of dollars, this seems like an anomaly. Also 7 years capped kilometer warranty??? Having said that, 7 years at 28,000 KM, the majority of Australians don't drive that far each year. Hopefully the ACC doesn't have the dangerous curve/bend assist which, like the Haval, is next level dangerous. Also hopefully one day we can de-activate this and get back to normal CC as well as full time deactivation of the ELKA. Thanks Dimitri

[@morenamothai9616]

Definitely drive the car and let us know if the drive quality has improved.

[@bobbywilson5664]

Is amazing how chinese car manufacturer have improved over the 10 years. From the first Cherry ute to now with LDV, SAIC Motors, MG etc have leap forward with the tech and safety inclusions as a package. overall they are getting better but they are not there yet for quality build and driving experience which bring the price increase to be very hard to justify. What scares me the most is the depreciation in 2 years or even 5 years and how Australian perception of chinese cars to be cheap and cheerful. Which most of the time we can excused their faults and quirks as they have extended warranty and cheap to run and maintain. If the price does go up but the quality and drivability stays the same to moderate then we would look at other cars as is no longer in their own market share. I think if you are buying a chinese car for personal use you better be ready to keep it for 5 year’s minimum before considering upgrading to potentially get the most of your investment.

[@reallydeeppockets]

The spec sheet on the new model has 184kw and 410nm. The old model has 165 and 350nm. That could be a possible difference and a positive change based on your experience. I'd be interested in your review.

[@ValueCarsAU]

Good to know, thanks for checking. Yeah I'll likely be taking the new model for a test drive to follow up with a hands-on review...

[@muhammadalisharif7824]

Hi, Thanks for the review. I am more concerned about the gearbox. Some people said it's like an elastic, at start it has no acceleration and then suddenly a good amount of acceleration. How did you feel from stop start?

[@paulsaifeeahsan7240]

Hi Mate, thanks for the video-I always value your opinion. I test-drove the new D90 yesterday and quite liked it. It’s excellent value, even with the price increase. However, I’m still deciding whether to buy it, so I’d love to hear your thoughts once you’ve taken it for a test drive. In my opinion, the car’s exterior design has improved significantly. It has a more rugged overall look, and the design feels cohesive from front to back-something that’s sometimes lacking in Chinese cars. Regarding the engine, the new model has been upgraded to 184kW and 410Nm (compared to 165kW and 350Nm in the old model). However, I still noticed a slight lag (1-2 seconds) in power delivery after pressing the accelerator, and it felt a bit underpowered. Was this the case with the old model? I’d really appreciate your detailed thoughts on the power improvement when you test-drive the car, as that could be a key factor in my decision. One minor issue I noticed was with the infotainment system-there’s no volume control on the display or center console. The only volume control is on the steering wheel, which might be inconvenient for some. When are you planning to test drive it?

[@markrauter1965]

It would be interesting to know how much your 2022 model is worth as a trade.

[@dlpereira]

I'm sure the warranty has increased from 5 to 7 years?

[@ValueCarsAU]

Australian consumer guarantee of reasonably durable goods implies that a car should live for about 10 years at least. I mean, who would fight them in court, but this increase is just a publicity stunt.

[@neilstone3961]

i have a 2022 d90 been happy but the service costs are a rip off but been happy with car

[@ernishant13]

With LDV any engine issues or major issues when you had it ?

[@ValueCarsAU]

I had it from brand new for a very short period of time - like 6 months, if I remember correctly - so no, nothing major could have ever happened in that time unless the car is a total lemon.

[@richardjohnson7641]

Engine has increased

[@ValueCarsAU]

2L turbo petrol? Seems the same as 2022 model to me.

[@richardjohnson7641]

@@ValueCarsAU The 2025 LDV D90 swaps its previous diesel option for a boosted 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine. Now producing 184kW and 410Nm - up from the previous 160kW/350Nm

[@richardjohnson7641]

Warranty has increased

[@ValueCarsAU]

Already replied with my thoughts to a similar comment. Hardly an investment on their part but a publicity stunt. Australian consumer guarantees would have forced LDV to honor customer claims on vehicles under ~10 years of age.

[@richardjohnson7641]

@@ValueCarsAU I agree - however many manufacturers do not do this unfortunately.

[@drewiliffe4855]

Why are you so negative on just about everything? At some point Chinese cars will increase in price as customer confidence grows and the sales continue year after year. A big difference with the 2025 D90 is that the petrol model can now tow 3000kg unlike the previous petrol could tow just 2000kg. So new infotainment, new screen for the dash speedo etc and some engineering on increasing the tow limit. Sounds like more money seems reasonable to me. I am unsure if the motor is new so you should probably do some research at the dealer before you post here. Not sure why the diesel engine is missing from the range when the T60 has one.

[@ValueCarsAU]

Probably for the same reason you seem to mistake my curiosity and consumer benefit-orientated viewpoint for negativity? 🤷‍♂️

[@richardjohnson7641]

I do agree it is probable overpriced - a brand new Pajero Sport 4x4 is only a little more expensive than this new D90

[@drewiliffe4855]

@@ValueCarsAU I checked and the motor is a new model, the gearbox is 8 speed instead of six and the 4WD system is next generation. Much better value for money in the 2025 model.