3 True Scary Stories of Betrayal by Fake Friends

[@kaifreyleue5961]

Francis has all the attributes of a cult leader. It’s spooky how a single charismatic guy like that can exert his influence to control people’s behavior like that. He probably got even better at his craft after that whole incident. The “motivational speaker” business is perfect territory for a cult to form

[@Medic_naturalist]

Absolutely. He’s going to have an Andrew Tate type following soon enough

[@juniper9251]

​@@Medic_naturalist as a woman, the incel state of mind genuinely scares me. They used to just be sad, but now they've got... well. An army of assholes.

[@PODxDevi]

Exactly what I thought.

[@deacondawg1416]

​@@juniper9251 Err...he seems more like Jim Jones type.

[@plushcat716]

I thought the same, Francis is now likely leading an entire cult, very scary guy...

[@grumpyrhonda6709]

Bloody hell! That last story about Lucinda and Erik. Nightmare inducing.

[@Cybernaut76]

I think I had similar nightmare in one group. Glad I was able to get rid of them eventually.

[@Garfunkels_Funky_Uncle]

Damn, these were crazy. The second story, the dude was clearly a cult leader.

[@Cybernaut76]

Yeah. I first thought he may have had a bad trip with drugs or the same kind of neurological malfunction than the airline captain had mid-air some years ago but that would not be enough to explain the behavior of those other men who chose to be weirdos too.

[@52ponybike]

What famous or I should say, infamous lunatic does 'cult leader' fit perfectly? Well, everyone in the US knows exactly who but the cult members aren't talking, except to praise the narcissistic sociopathic conman.

[@hardhitter5099]

They were just snowflakes 🙄😂

[@PhatBoi011]

Lmao... She said "after marriage you gotta set some ground rules" 😅 lady, you should probably do that before you get married... Smh 🫣

[@ElaineFlores1982]

That’s exactly what I thought! I was listening and said “wait, they’re doing this just now? This is supposed to be a conversation when the couple starts getting serious! What’s the point of doing it after? Oh, this marriage is doomed!” When I still even heard all the story yet. And unfortunately, I was right.

[@Alan-me4yn]

You got that right! Amatures 😂

[@Alan-me4yn]

You got that right! Amatures 😂

[@christianmenard9033]

Yo! I thought that same thing! Wtf? That screams divorce soon

[@mutterbuffin6916]

Honestly the guy sounded incredibly narcissistic and controlling especially if had just admitted to wanting to trap her. It wouldn't have surprised me a bit if he had just lied to any rules they made previously

[@lauren3544]

If you wanted a housewife all along, then why not find a woman that wants to be that?? Instead you married someone who isn't like that, and tried to break her down. These people are crazy.

[@90000cg]

Good point and that is why more passport bros are going abroad to find traditional women. That is why most American women will become lonely cat ladies.

[@Enki1013]

@@90000cg Why do you assume they will be "lonely?" Also the "mail order bride" scenarios are rarely, if ever, the big dream they are cracked up to be. Usually the opposite, for both parties, for one reason or another. It also screams of being desperate.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

passport bro are not mailed ordered bride. lol. you're assuming wrong my dude. lol.

[@Enki1013]

@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 I got distracted when I posted so didn't get the whole thing in. In any case, they have to consider whether or not they are ready for that culture. It will be their tradition in their country, and they want what they consider traditional men. I will refer to American example, where my parents went to church. They would get young men seeking "traditional" woman (because "feminism has gone to far" or something), but they could not find the exit door fast enough when they learned what it meant there to be the "traditional" husband in that church. I still agree with OP, that if that is what they want, then find one. Don't try to break anyone after the marriage to force them to fit. In the story in question, it crossed the line into mental and psychological abuse. It was a matter of time before it got physical. Yeah she slapped first, but only after the lies, manipulation, and mental abuse, and she had the good sense to leave.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

@@Enki1013 she wants a business partner not a husband. good for her to eventually get a business partner.

[@kathleen7607]

The last story is SO insane.... I'm really glad she got out of that situation. His final words are very telling of his character. Spoken like a true abuser.

[@yozoplays0]

That intro of Saturns rings being skulls was pretty beautiful

[@ChristineMurray93]

Lucinda your days are numbered!!!

[@kjbutler213]

Joel may not be pregnant, BUT HE DELIVERED 🔥🔥

[@anb3rlyn]

😂That's Awesome!😆👍

[@scraidywolf7081]

😂😂

[@th-sd6ni]

Is it a boy or a girl??

[@SillyLittlePookie]

YES

[@souvang5767]

😂

[@t-jacked8166]

If I was the woman from the last story the second unannounced visit from the in-laws would have been more than enough for me to put my foot down and tell them to back off.

[@jennifer3551]

Ditto!!!

[@poggiiee]

Right in time for bedtime! Gnight everyone

[@JayR_Blaze]

Yup. I'm GN

[@nataliep501]

Good night from California!

[@poppybear888]

Goodnight from Louisiana!

[@TheMilkmaidFarm]

It almost feels like an insult to him sometimes. I don’t make it through them all before drifting off, but I’m grateful for it, nonetheless. Thanks, Joel. It helps so much. You have a lovely storytelling voice. It reminds me of when I was a kid and my dad would read me to sleep. It was the best sleep ever.

[@bigred8633]

Goodnight from Tennessee!

[@jbellbird9050]

That last story resonated with me. Now I never have to associate with my greedy, grasping former in-laws. What a feeling of bliss! Thanks for entertaining stories 😂😊

[@Canadakonnect]

Everyone has a right to live their lives as they see fit. She has a right to be a career lady and they have a right to seek a woman who wants to be a housewife. Expecting someone to be something they do not want to be is the main issue which is lack of communication.

[@iwanttobelieve9496]

"Friends" are just a knife that hasn't gone in your back yet.

[@chopsandtoots]

Story 1: girl you need a spiritual cleanse lol

[@extoyshred2957]

She a high ranking demon that won't do shiet

[@darkangelprincess101]

No, she needs to make up a better story if she's going to lie 😊

[@MrCjosue24]

Betrayal hurts

[@thegameplayer125]

as the old adage goes, who needs enemies when you have friends like these

[@kiofeila9546]

Francis gave serious "Lord of the Flies" vibes

[@Medic_naturalist]

That Francis story is wild!

[@Cybernaut76]

Sometimes things like that happen despite the fact nobody expects it.

[@th-sd6ni]

The Frances story sounds like a low-budget horror movie. In fact, i think I may have watched it somewhere on Amazon Prime...

[@lizhurgeton2637]

double feature: Carlene Russell & Frances go camping. Wait, Amazon Prime is the new Lifetime Movie! damn

[@BimmerBros]

Exactly my thoughts the most unbelievable part of that story was that they had a close friend group of girls and boys. Get out of here with that fiction 😂

[@dynamicdingus]

@BimmerBros And how the author was the only reasonable man among the other's that was protecting the female friends. Trying to paint himself as a hero. Classic

[@voidbreather7405]

For the first story... OP, if you see this: 1.) Whatever was happening with Stephanie, you need to let her go from your mind and heart, decade-long friendship or no; she was possessive and abusive towards you, and clearly wanted to keep you socially isolated from others. Hell, maybe she was even in love with you, and fled out of panic for revealing her feelings, or even to keep some measure of control by cutting you off before you potentially could to her. Please, consider speaking with a therapist if you can, it may help you more than you know. 2.) PLEASE go to a doctor and get your fingers checked out - Stephanie might have damaged your joints by pressing so hard onto them. If they cannot help you, well... Maybe try finding a witch via those forums that helped before? It's better than nothing, even if you're skeptical of it.

[@StephanieDineley]

The last story felt like I was the writer...my 1st marriage was creepily similar...and they too found a younger, more gulible/"trainable" doll. Sad....

[@Cybernaut76]

Fake friends??? FINALLY! I was wondering for many years why have I not seen KZbin stories of untrue friends until today. I mean I would probably have an erratic Siberian Tiger as a pet than a more terrifying monster called fake friend. Fake friends have made some of the worst horror stories of my life! Choose your friends wrong and pay a horrendous price!!!

[@professionalcommenter]

So I would have recorded the mother and played it back to the whole family to expose her. Then, I would have left and never looked back. So that would have created doubt in the other ladies.

[@low-keydrama1260]

Doubt it. The family knew Lucinda longer than OP. Who are you willing to believe? Someone you know for years or someone who’s just new to the family? Also who’s to say if the family didn’t also have the same values as Lucinda and Eric?

[@Ixc795]

2nd and 3rd are really scary. In the last, that grown ass man was so determined to be taken care of as a baby that he was plotting with his mother to ruin her life 😬

[@ohgluke]

You make the hospital bed much cozier thank you ❤

[@TH-hy9kr]

Wishing you a full recovery

[@deviantash]

Get well, homie!!

[@shawnsutherland2111]

Regarding Story #3 and @35:49 - What is a “Protestant-Catholic.”? In my experience, a person is either/or, e.g., the term “Protestant” came about because of Martin Luther protesting the Catholic Church. I promise I’m not trying to be divisive; I’m just not clear on how someone can be both Protestant and Catholic.

[@salemsrevenge]

thought the same thing ! perhaps one side of the family is catholic and the other side Protestant ?

[@m.l.e.3379]

You're definitely right, someone couldn't be both. I'm sure she meant to say "Protestant Christian", but probably not being religious either isn't aware of the difference, or just misspoke.

[@m.l.e.3379]

@salemsrevenge I suppose that is a possibility, I hadn't considered that.

[@l.alfonsoduluc6253]

Protestants are also called Lutherans. They started in the early 1500s. They are almost the same. Both are part of the Christian faith.

[@BroscoWankston]

I think some Anglicans think they're catholic

[@jessicatauro2105]

Bruh these stories each were crazy. The second one, omg I feel bad for the women and the man. But the third one had me fuming w rage at the MIL

[@pedrorodrigues-zm9hn]

A pior parte da traição é que nunca vem de um inimigo. Boa noite a todos e mais um ótimo trabalho Joel. ✌🏻

[@Black_Blow_Fly]

That 3rd story… classic battle axe.

[@adriii_c]

the last story is so sad🙁 i hope shes doing okay now

[@JohnJKelly-of4dc]

They're probably just made up...though stuff like this happens, I guess

[@TheSaulJohn]

I find it funny she became happy after doing what she refuse to do. “Lucinda” was out of line tho.

[@minnesota_fats7344]

I thought that lady was as crazy as the guy. Maybe I saw things different Maybe I'm older but I see two people who are young and they don't know exactly what they want yet. I've never believed in marriage so I've never done it but I've had a 11-year relationship and two others under 5 years one four and a half another one and a half that I've had a bunch of relationships short-term friends with benefits. Now that I'm in my mid 40s you start looking back but one thing that I've had great ex partners and most of them I'm not one to stay friends so I haven't really heard from him but no one's ever reached out to me no stories of trauma or anything because I try to do my part to be a decent person be there like she said what she was looking for a partner. That being said I don't think she quite knew what that meant at the time some people understand early on I was blessed in that sense not really religious but I like that term then what it represents and I had an idea what I was looking for in the partner I'd figured it out by the time I was 25. I started dating When I was older cuz I was sheltered and but I got out there had some awkward first dates learning how things work but once I lost my virginity at 22 I had some wild years there as I navigated the waters and met wonderful people some worked out some didn't but it gave me a chance to find out what I was looking for. When I was 25 though I had my first rear relationship It was that year and a half one well about a year and two months I think. Kind of knew what was going to end but it went on longer than I thought because we both loved each other. It was older she was 38 I was 25 but there was a real connection there and she was the first woman who treated me as an equal gave me such respect all the women before were childish like me You were grown-ups but childlike growing ups. I owe her so much for let me know how a real relationship works. That your partners that you respect each other that you don't tear each other down and fight over silly things. From then on I was always Frank with what I was looking for some girls really like that some girls thought I was being demanding but that's how I knew they weren't meant for me and that was okay We might like someone we think Lost after him but as you get to know him even just a little bit you realize this isn't a person for me We have different values in life that are going to come to a head.

[@Valadriel100]

Its more common than you think​@@JohnJKelly-of4dc

[@jenreii]

​@@minnesota_fats7344what are you trying to say with all of that?

[@peace-love-on-the-right]

The last story was straight up out of Stepford Wives. Awesome stories Love.

[@tonipurley6555]

Ooooh these stories were Good Ones!! Way better than the boring crap on TV these days for sure! Thanks Joel! And to the woman in the last story, I'm sorry you had to go through such a horrible experience but good for you for being strong, standing your ground & leaving that nighmare behind! How many times people end up staying in similar situations, trapping themselves bc they're scared to leave, feel like they have no options or choices & worse, end up adding children to an already toxic situation which never ends well for anyone. No one should ever have to endure that! You doged a bullet for sure & came out stronger for it ❤

[@mitchellwintrow4495]

Daaaaaang, that last story was nuts. I don't know why, but I found that one even more disturbing than Francis or the witch friend. Idk maybe it's because I'm newly engaged and it just sounds so believable 😅 (not that the other ones aren't, people are definitely crazy)

[@coffeebeanB]

My worst nightmare is marrying old (out of desperation probably bc i already am in my late 20s) and that i will find people like in the last story. It's insane that there are still such archaic and humiliating ways to see women and their "role" in this world, like, we are humans too and we're certainly not here just to be servants because of what we have underneath our underwear, such an ignorant and backwards way of thinking

[@skylinefootball]

With a chip on your shoulder that big, you should file for disability.

[@nataliep501]

​​With a hairline like that, you should be in line right behind her

[@solidsnake5782]

Big yikes.

[@tonij9089]

Well...... You may be in for some disappointment 😊😢

[@SupernovaV23]

I wouldn’t worry about...I feel like late 20s isn't old to marry. It really should be based on the person you're with and what that relationship is like.

[@redactedxx4219]

The last story got me physically angry. Having a bad mother in law is one thing but to have both actively work against you like that. Sorry. Glad you got away.

[@slimstockholmsyndrome119]

Same, it made me so angry

[@MaltheMisfit]

My best friend died in 2022. It still feels eerie. Appreciate your love ones and make sure they know

[@HEILIGERRomer]

That intro was cold 🥶

[@indivisible885]

Where are Francis' OTHER friends? Someone takes over your "friend group" and doesn't have any friends of his own? No red flags there

[@th-sd6ni]

you're overthinking a story that is clearly fictional....

[@indivisible885]

@@th-sd6ni that's what I do 👍

[@ChristaBlack-gn8ys]

19:01 That whistle cut my ear drum in half ☠️

[@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519]

That last one made me very grateful for my problems.

[@anjus6319]

Today's stories were exceptionally good!

[@TheLooterArmy]

"Not my circus, not my monkeys" is good to remember when trying to let go of toxic people.

[@GeorgeNeofotistos]

Logical payback? Never! a real MAN would NEVER EVER slap or strike a woman in any way

[@extoyshred2957]

Eh if I don't know about real man on this one cheif if some lays there hand on me unprovoked they better get ready to get it back a lesson my parents let me know about.

[@GeorgeNeofotistos]

@@extoyshred2957 sad for you

[@duetoronomy]

On the fence abt this one at bed time. This is exactly the kind of topic that riles me tf up.

[@vash121086]

I'm happy that op found someone even better in the last story, but that horrible man and his insane mother are terrible people. It's scary that a friend would do something so cruel and creepy in the first story. In the 2nd story op your response on the trip was good. It's unfortunate that happened though. It sounds like that so called friend is stating a cult.

[@AnnaContreras-p6t]

Story 1 was a trip! Wow!

[@oisinlynch8427]

It sounds fake like a creepy pasta or fanfiction

[@M3atHolst3r]

Hearing Joel on his lives vs the actual podcast are night and day but I love it so much 😂

[@staceysims7264]

Lol it really is I love that his personality is in the lives

[@j0s3phXO]

What is a protestant catholic?

[@june7343]

The last one gave me literal chills which is insane because the one before that was literally a cult leader's handbook

[@brianban110]

These could be untrue but life is stranger than fiction

[@maramaroney7057]

I’m so glad that my boyfriend doesn’t have a mom. Crass, but I swore I would never marry into the kind of family in story 3. Disgusting.

[@diegonatan6301]

I wish my mother in law was still alive though, I miss her so much and my bride would be so much more healthy with her alive...

[@ravenfox926]

S3: one of my scumabg exes actually said I'd 'never find another guy like him' and I said, 'THATS A F*CKING RELIEF!'

[@utsavdewan9835]

"He was telling me what I needed to make him for dinner. I knew those were red flags" 😅😂😂😂

[@jewelsdavis786]

OMG! The first story reminds me of a friend who stalked me after I ended our friendship. She could not accept the fact that I was straight and happily married. She went as far as to spike my drink at our college graduation party and then proceeded to try and kiss me. We were friends for two years, until she crossed a boundary with me. Thankfully she moved several states away and left me alone.

[@KH-bq2hl]

Story 3 she should've recorded that conversation, going in on her own, with someone that manipulative...and taken that to a lawyer.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

oh my god that mother in law, what an absolute nightmare

[@floppaeditz123]

"I would rather have a true enemy than a false friend."

[@patsywhitten4739]

I love that. Yes I have friends that feel like wonderful comfort food.

[@jasminejeffers8518]

Yo, these are all BANGERS 👌

[@crystalr.castillo2784]

omg! these stories were good. Lucinda and Francis lol

[@Georgino893]

Story 3 is 100% my fiancés mom currently. Our 5 year relationship is on the way towards ending bc of it. Every single detail including the entire family avoiding me and now hating me bc she told them all I’m a bad guy (I just think an adult relationship is only the intimate business of the two ppl in the relationship) and think we should be raising our son alone, without input. It sucks and I hate every moment of it

[@robcash7532]

Love your stories thanks for helping me sleep

[@ryleymcclure7515]

Francis definitely seems like a cult leader but they could’ve all been on bath salts or something too I feel like those are the only 2 options lol

[@BloodnGutz43]

l can relate to the last story am glad you found someone better, my partner cut his mother out of his life because of the way she treated me.

[@mariexoxo8292]

Omg yesssss!!! I was really looking forward to betrayal stories!! I hope to have a part 2 of the satisfying revenge stories that you did!! I hope you see this comment. Loveeeee ur vids!!❤❤

[@iheartshaneandjeffree]

That third story started out a little flat and by the end my jaw was on the floor. Wow!

[@Voila1999]

I thought acud trip for Francis and Co. At first but to be all in sync like that . Thats something else. Pretty spooky.

[@privatename2426]

That second story was wild

[@cynicalafflictional1725]

Not my circus, not my monkeys.

[@sheenascott5604]

I like the change in your voice in this video. 😊 it's more natural.

[@Crazybatladyx]

Bedtime stories by the most soothing voice

[@alicjakrajewska9457]

I love your voice. Can listen to it for hours.❤

[@jacksonis2rad196]

The stories in this one just kept getting crazier lol

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload!

[@KB-qk1ic]

Do not wait until you're married to talk about other life altering situations. Things change, life happens but you don't want find out after marriage that you have different expectations.

[@stuartfishman719]

Cool stories Joel...really enjoyed these...so much better than paranormal & bigfoots/bigfeet...i dont know what the plural of imaginary creatures is...lol

[@hangedups2608]

YEH BIG SIGN WHEN ITS A COLLECTION OF MADE UP FAIRY STORIES

[@SashaYerm]

Yay! New vid! Thanks.

[@bapplejacks]

The second story was wild, and somehow the third story topped it

[@GeorgeNeofotistos]

There is no good kind of which craft

[@hangedups2608]

THERE IS NO KIND OF WITCH CRAFT

[@robineppinette4056]

YOUR VIDEO'S ARE AWESOME..THANKS SO MUCH YOU MAKE MY DAY BETTER ❤❤❤❤❤

[@prem_singh424]

Thank you Joel for narrating my .story😊

[@Medic_naturalist]

Which one was that?

[@prem_singh424]

@@Medic_naturalist hiking story

[@prem_singh424]

@@Medic_naturalist hiking story

[@Medic_naturalist]

@@prem_singh424the Francis one?

[@SachinSingh024]

Great story bruh!

[@oliviaricci2918]

The fact that the men in the second story so willingly followed an "alpha male" type and attacked their female friends with just one simple command shows what kind of people they truly were. The comment made earlier by one of them "its nice to see a guy in our group actually protect the girls"(or something like that) immediately made me feel uncomfortable. That statement felt wrong, and with what happened at the waterfall its clear non of the men in the group actually cared about their female friends. Except OP of course.

[@90000cg]

Story 3: Mowing lawn was way harder than making lunch.

[@masterDarts4188]

@@adrianaheiler9794 Sorry but no, I've done both and mowing a lawn is significatly harder physically. Cooking doesn't require hard labor, it's planning and preparation yes, but that's just practice. You don't get exhausted making a meal unless you've been doing it for several hours on end with no rest. That doesn't compare to being outside in trying weather.

[@hangedups2608]

@@masterDarts4188STANDARD MAN ATTITUDE THAT PROPELS WHY THIS HAPPENS. THE WIFE TOOK ON ALL THE EMOTIONAL LABOUR.

[@masterDarts4188]

@@hangedups2608 Calm down safe space. And don't forget you're getting this story from the woman's perspective. Let's not pretend she didn't spin this to make herself look as good as possible. In a relationship it often takes two to tango.

[@kavericornett6748]

Great stories & narration

[@ShadyTalesyt]

yaaaasss lets read, let's sleep..

[@Hallucinogenic_reality]

That’s messed up. I have 2 older brothers. One about 23 years older than me. My parents had me in their mid 40’s and I came out “normal”

[@T.O.P.]

Thank you ✨

[@flobrez2470]

Second story down sounds like a guy who likes to be in control. I agree with everyone else he sounds like a cult leader what a crazy story. 3rd story: Lucinda is the nightmare mil. This guy will never find a wife with her lingering in the back ground.

[@mikaylajoelle4249]

I love the ideas you come up with for intros

[@buckeyegirl16]

What Francis did to the girls was inexcusable but the OP is not a likeable guy either.

[@90000cg]

Total beta that simps for girls attention.

[@alexandraknox-wrobel1693]

Yayyy!! Thank you Joel

[@BeastModeFit]

That last story though 😮

[@blairbug]

That last story was intense

[@teshawnachance4701]

Yes!! Make a next episode for betrayal…i enjoyed it…❤❤ i love listening to you

[@Redditaurus]

That last story sounds so much like what happened to my sister, except 1) she had 2 kids, and 2) the ex didn't message her university; he just put so much pressure on her to be a stay at home mom that she had to drop out, 3) he did the slandering rather than his mother, and 4) they were married for a few years... . Other than that she also found someone better.

[@plushcat716]

OMG, now that's a MIL from hell!

[@colleendesimone894]

Xcellent episode!! Loved it! Thk u, Joel!

[@tennesseegirl5539]

I'm hooked! I'm gonna send you some dough!

[@jenniferj5324]

I have backpacked, so people who think car camping & "glamping" is hard, make me laugh.

[@LifeofBennett]

35:51 “Protestant Catholics.” I’m sorry, what?

[@extoyshred2957]

Fake story protestant catholic is not a thing g as a matter of fact protestants and catholics are enemies in real lide.