5,000 Miles in The 2022 Honda Civic Si - Long Term Ownership Update (POV Binaural Audio)

How is the 2022 Honda Civic Si after 5,600 miles? Let's take a drive and discuss what I like and dislike about the car.
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[@alihasanabdullah7586]

The reliability is a heavily understated trait of these cars. Not having to constantly worry about (and often pay for) repairs is a godsend.

[@ronjohnson8119]

It’s a luxury.

[@worldofz00]

Funny when we were all kids, I was gravitating towards more expensive vehicles. Now when we work like 50+ hours, I’m like no. There’s other priorities than just besides cars lol.

[@Perry....]

@@worldofz00 It's miserable that we can't enjoy basic hobbies now a days.. God bless America! 🤪

[@geerstyresoil3136]

I think the engines are pretty stout but as a complete car I think Toyota is still superior, the fit and finish on Hondas are always a bit sketchy, especially on the lower end models as he pointed out with panel gaps and rattles.

[@nikolagregic7709]

Its most important thing when im looking to buy a car.

[@disco.lemonade]

Great review. Sick and tired of the so called reviewers doing a 0 - 60 and basically calling it a wrap. Except for savagegeese, of course

[@Tatus_legarius]

Of course!

[@battosaijenkins946]

@TedWard, bro ur spazzing out over fuel economy? Wait until you drive something called a Tesla model S. BOOM mind blown~ Seeya

[@battosaijenkins946]

@@fulloddskurt5600 Your loss buddy... TRUST me~ 🤣🤣

[@professionalbeats.6382]

@@fulloddskurt5600 epitome of a telsa owner. They really dont understand that they dont take em seriously. Frail white dudes be driving around inna plaid (wich i hope he means the plaid not the basic model s cuz ima be dying) and race dailys in the street and thi k theyre cool. Teslas are cool or whatever but in the end. Gas powered engine are easier to revive. Electric are not the future.

[@Matthew-rc1xt]

@@battosaijenkins946teslas are cute toys i guess

[@verdict1163]

The front door to fender overlap is intentional, it is so that the air doesn't catch on the door edge and cause more drag/wind noise.

[@shawn595]

Thanks for sharing this. As a 9th Gen Si owner, I found this extremely informative.

[@Ricksnet2008]

I am looking at this for my next car early 2023. Upgrading from my Mazda 3 hatch. I do wish the SI came in a hatch but the sedan looks awesome. Seems to be a great upgrade. I also do wish fog lights and heated seats came with it. But such is life. After market fogs are a thing though and many look pretty sweet. Thanks for the review!

[@Sathea]

Lol my 2017 SI had 155k miles. Took her everywhere.

[@stms4411]

Some random reactions. My boxster has the same problem with the passenger seatbelt (rattling), so I belt it when there’s no passenger with me. Don’t hear anything from my 3 months / 3,600 miles in my si. I find it plenty quick for real world street driving. Agree with the plaudits for this car. For those who love manuals, this one is terrific (in some ways better than my Porsche) Had a focus RS and agree with the cockpit observations by tedward. The interior on the ford was awful compared to the Si. The seat pan angle was not adjustable and uncomfortable. Ride quality was horrible. Was heroically fast, but you only had fun when demolishing the speed limit. You can enjoy this Si without having to hoon. Oh yeah, it also had an ad hoc problem where it was beyond rev hang (sometimes elevated as much as 1,000 rpms upon upshift…..ford called it normal so I sold it. Reliability is relative….I’ll bet on the Si vs other options. Having said that - I may go back to a brz in a couple years. Would likely not do a CTR……that’s likely $50k and I don’t see the value there.

[@JasonPrice1]

We (My son and I) are over the 10,000 KM mark in our 2022 Touring sedan and man, the only complaint I have is on rear seat headroom for 6 footers, but I don't HAVE to sit back there :) I think it is truly a travesty that Honda didn't put the Si Canada trim as the same for the US. The NVH in the touring sedan is just truly awesome for "just a Civic". If the US Si had some of those up trim NVH considerations, I am sure it would make your ride that much more rattle free. Personally, I would love to row gears in an Si but the total trim package and comfort in our Touring just makes it too hard to part with. I am still not a massive fan of the overall look of the car on the outside (I really like the whacko look of the GenX as we had one of those too), but the interior in this thing is just awesome and especially for the money. As for panel gaps, that is to bad you have those on your car. Ours is "perfect" other than what looks like an ever so slight misalignment of one of the doors as far as how tight it closes compared to the other door but not enough to make me want to frig with it and introduce new issues. Our GenX definitely had alignment issues.

[@UnknownYTx]

Just hit 2200 miles on my Civic Sport and only fill up once a week with a 50 mile round trip each day (at least) It would probably go slightly longer but I don't let it go below a half tank.

[@alexp6409]

Do you ever calculate the MPG manually? My 2018 Accord overstates MPG by 3-4mpg compared to what I calculate by hand - regardless, this Si still gets pretty amazing mileage. My 2009 Civic Si sedan normally got 29-31mpg (it was rated at 29mpg).

[@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]

I always calculate it manually. It'd report 35 mpg where in reality I was getting 30-32

[@riseabove3082]

I always manually calculate my mpg on every car. The computer is always off by 2 mpg.

[@busterscrugs]

My buddy's 2018 Accord suffers from similar rattles in the door panels. Recently the headliner developed a rattle as well. Dealership fixed it but then it came back shortly after. Also had a check engine light, O2 sensor went out right after the warranty expired.

[@Michael-li3id]

i have a 19 si and average 36mpg with mostly city driving. i have averaged low 40's on long road trips. Downside is that it requires premium which cost 15% more than 87 So cost per mile is the same as a car that averages 31mpg vs my 36 on premium

[@gambj]

There was a time, i owned a more modern tiny engine turbo sedan, 2021 even. Got 45mpg without ever trying, on regular gas at that. But the actual driving experiences were so terrible...crippling in fact. That i was completely willing to sell it within a year. Back to another sports car, that runs premium and gets 25mpg. And here i am with absolutely no regrets even today.. the driving experience is first and foremost for me. No rev hang. No hill assist. No electronic e brake. No traffic assist. And i wouldn't have it any other way.

[@ageagile1047]

It’s 3.7 quarts* btw - Honda tech Looking at getting a 22 Si myself but gotta wait 3 more months for delivery to our dealership so rn I have time to ponder on it

[@retrograde11]

Well said! Great review. Seams like a fun daily driver.

[@avery4528]

You know you can make your own 91 right? It's literally just a 2:1 blend of 93 and 87. I put eight gallons of 93 and 4 gallons of 87 in my car.

[@Oplix]

I really wish the SI offered standard black interior. The red accents just don't work with certain paint colors. Especially the fact that some points are bright red while others are dark it looks quite tacky.

[@S_G_B]

Damn, You're lucky in the states, we pay $7.65usd per gallon for Diesel 😱

[@ruhaan6216]

Speaking of reliability, you think you could drive a 2017 V6 Accord?

[@jv6miata]

Coupe 6-6 more specifically!

[@defaultname19315]

V6 accord coupe owner here! I’m in love with this car. It’s so practical when it needs to be yet so much fun when I want that too

[@ruhaan6216]

@@defaultname19315 I'm 18 right now and would love to own one of these as my first car in the future! I can only imagine how smooth that V6 is

[@Crosbie85]

@@jv6miata I agree with you

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

I used to own a 14 V6 Coupe. I loved that car, the biggest problem I had was the interior squeaked and rattled like crazy. Also it was an automatic which was a terrible transmission. It was really slow to shift and it would constantly up shift to highest gear possible even if you were trying to use the paddle shifters in a back road. It wouldn’t let you hold a gear you selected. If you can find one in manual, it is much better.

[@sleep399]

Great video as always, I feel bad because I always ask "when are we seeing ____ Review" but Im just curious if you might ever be able to get your hands on a GTI or Golf R for review, Id imagine there would be a LENGTHY discussion about the interior controls but It would just be interesting in seeing you drive them. If not then all good, Ill basically watch anything you put out with my morning coffee!

[@ogbenzel]

Hello Ted my mother in law got a new pilot and had a similar issue as you with body panels not being aligned as well as the door being too close to the quarter panel when opening so it was literally taking the paint right off the door. She brought it back to selling DLR voiced her complaint and they actually repaired al that shit. So maybe worth a try if it really bothers you

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

I think you’re just unlucky with cars lol. I got my Si in April and I don’t have any misaligned body panels. I only have 1500 miles on mine so you’re probably correct in saying you had some bad gas which caused a malfunction in the motor. Haven’t had any issues like that and hopefully I don’t. I do have a weird “metal on metal” scraping sound when I just let the car coast in gear. In the FB group, there are a lot of people complaining about the same thing and nobody seems to know what it is.

[@gns942]

4:00 North American assembly quality at its finest.

[@exile9237]

I kinda wish the si carried black leather seats instead of those racer boy seats.

[@zmagnft]

I just bought a 2020 Si coupe (10th gen) and I was considering buying a 2022 Si but there were a couple of things I liked more about the 10th gen that you mentioned in this video. Heated seats is a plus but nowhere near _the_ reason I liked the 10th gen over the 11th gen (winters in Mass. are brutally cold and this is the first car I owned that has heated seats.) Also you touched on the downgraded speedometer - I just liked the look of the 10th gen's interior overall more than the 11th gen. I hated the placement of the Infotainment screen, the way it's sticking up over the dashboard like that - just not a fan. And the exterior of the 11th gen looks too much like every other newer sedan on the road to me. Especially the rear end, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference of a 2022 Civic and 2022 Accord when I'm driving because they look so similar. Even the interiors look the same... Also, my coupe has the camera on the passenger mirror which I thought was a novelty until I realized it's value on the highway switching lanes at speed. I've owned a 1998 Civic EX coupe (SOHC V-Tech) and loved it. I remember drag racing an Integra as a kid and smoking him. I also owned a 2003 Civic LX sedan and it was a downgrade, nowhere near as fun. For some reason the road noises from the interior in the 2003 sedan I remember were just like you're experiencing - they happen when they want to, and when they do they are very noticeable. The 98 coupe felt solid, no interior noise even when I had 17" rims on it. The road noise from the stock 18" rims is loud, compared to like 15" or 16" rims on my parents 2019 Elantra - but it's not a deal breaker. The gas mileage is great on the 10th gen as well, I get around 35+ mpg with almost all back-road driving. I also liked the coupe because it's original and they stopped making them... (I guess Honda didn't see a reason to continue the coupes because of their sales, which is a shame...) The only thing I wish I knew before buying the coupe was the lack of third-party development on the exterior, but the engine is what I care about most now... and thankfully there is enough stuff available to keep me happy. I see a lot of sedans on the road (10th gen & now 11th gen) both Si and a even a few Type R's... but not a lot of coupes. And when I do, it's usually a Sport or Sport Touring, not an Si. I wanted to stand out a little bit by owning something different, and I'm glad I did. Plus it's just a fun daily driver like you said. I'm not looking for a track car/race car, I just wanted something that was fun as a daily driver and just fast enough to keep me entertained. Oh, and buying a car right now I learned one thing: MSRP? LOL. Only thing that eases the pain is the MPG these 1.5L turbos produce. I can still do a lot of "spirited" driving and get great MPG. Thanks if you read my post to the end, just wanted to get some stuff off my chest I guess - and keep up the great content Tedward!

[@haydenarter7505]

The kid; there goes the guy that talks in his car again.

[@K24-x4t]

Recession is here, the days of living lavish has come to a halt, economy cars are making a comeback

[@StormerG]

I am looking into getting a 2023 model. Assuming there have been no changes at all from 2022 to 2023, I've gathered that the American model of the Civic Si does not have the following features. Am I correct for all of these? - remote start - wireless charger - heated seats - fog lights - blinker mirror lights

[@TedwardDrives]

Correct!

[@StormerG]

@@TedwardDrives Thanks for the quick feedback! It also seems like if I want to get a 6-speed manual transmission Civic as a Sedan, I need to get the Si. Coming from a VW bug, I definitely need more space than the hatchback. Too bad there isn't a U.S. Si model with a lot of the Sport-Touring features in it.

[@julieb669]

Why does it need an oil change at 5000 miles vs. the Civic LX and Sport at 7000 miles for the 2021?

[@albertcervantes3953]

I know you been to Angeles crest highway so do you think this would be a good car to take to Angeles crest on the weekends?

[@Riley1524]

Any particular reason why you didn't sell the M3 to a private buyer? I bet you lost a ton on trade in

[@matthewgonano636]

Meh would rather have a 2016 gen Mazda 3 hatch. Naturally aspirated cheaper on gas more reliable. Def more fun to drive

[@ProfessionalDumbass420]

About the rear armrest, my parents have a *2021* Volkswagen Atlas, yet it doesn't have a freaking armrest. A 3 row SUV without a rear armrest. I get it's a base model but it sucks not having that on a 10 hour drive down to the Carolinas :/

[@TedwardDrives]

Yeah that’s unforgivable!

[@ProfessionalDumbass420]

@@TedwardDrives At least we had a cooler full of snacks in the middle I could rest my arm on 🤣

[@kcav1255]

Every KZbinr that buys a Civic Si: “I love this car, it’s amazing. It’s just right. It’s the perfect balance of fun and practicality and price!” Also every KZbinr 6 months after they’ve bought the car: “Let me tell you about my plans to buy a Type-R.”

[@rev6925]

To be fair, that's just natural progression anyway. These cars are nice and slow unlike the type R which is a little quicker than this. Lol. But nothing will ever justify 60k for a fwd honda. I do believe that in my case, it will make a great DD but I know it's gonna be slow as well

[@ryox82]

@@rev6925 It's 100hp more in the Type R for double the money of a new Si IF you find one on the used market. I personally can't justify it.

[@RadKitflix]

The people who buy Si are the same people who buy Type Rs. Si is just 15k cheaper.

[@kevinnorris6558]

I was on a highway in Upstate NY once and managed to get 44.2 MPG on my WRX (according to the computer). I didn't really think it was possible given that my car is rated 21/27 highway. Also, I myself would rather have an Si for daily use as the Type R's 20 inch wheels will get destroyed by the potholes in my area.

[@TedwardDrives]

Those skinnnnny tires are definitely a strike against the type R as a daily. So far I haven't destroyed any wheels or tires on this car but I did purchase the insurance so I don't have to worry if I bash into a pot hole this winter.

[@sleep399]

im on long island and I dream about your roads upstate every day lol, whenever we do a big cruise day we always go up to Poughkeepsie but yea the potholes any where in NY are absolute monsters, me and my Abarth are rattling 24/7 haha

[@papa_pt]

the only way I see that being possible is if you stayed at 50-55mph

[@tyhyhh]

ive got a few buddies with va WRXs and best ive seen them get is about 32-33

[@Waffles11399]

yeah the best I've gotten was 33

[@RyanRoadReaper]

Wow, this is the first time I've ever been first on a video/KZbin comment section. Feels awfully empty in here 🤣

[@RDG_0001]

Congratulations!

[@TedwardDrives]

like skiing on fresh powder

[@Kevaairbag]

I ate a Taco

[@paulbrown3302]

Shows the little amount of bots are here on car review channels lol finally

[@Milkinporsche]

You are a very genuine car reviewer when it comes to cars that's for normal people. I think your pov perspective really makes the review more immersive, coupled with your honest opinions, i feel like i am owning the car with you for about half hour. Good video as always.

[@beardannon]

im nearing 10k miles on my 22 si. love it completely and it gets over 40mpg premium on the highway. i cruise at 75 for about 60 miles. it is my first manual and is very easy to learn on.

[@user-fd8vu2yl1f]

Thats amazing

[@isaiahmerced8111]

This’ll be my first manual too. I’ll be learning on it as well! I just gotta find somewhere that isn’t going past 5K over MSRP.

[@knighttimeanimation]

just signed for mine and I will also be learning on it!

[@jbm0866]

For those of you getting a manual for the first time...dont take it in for an oil change/state inspection/maintenance/repair until you confirm the only people who will drive your car are experienced with manuals. I have a buddy who tried to teach his girlfriend to drive manual on his less than 2 year old GTI and she trashed the clutch in less than an hour, doh!🙈 However don't let this scare you away from getting a manual, you should pick it up quite easily just driving it after watching an online tutorial. (I taught myself to drive manual by buying a 78 Datsun 280Z and having no way to get it home but drive. After about 2 stalls at stoplights I was good to go.😁

[@knighttimeanimation]

I at least have a basic understanding of shifting because of riding a motorcycle for years and my dad being a mechanic for 40+ years will be teaching me. He's the only one that will be driving it other than myself. Haha It's great advice so I appreciate it. I'm a little nervous but way more excited! It's gonna be a fun journey.

[@quincailleriearcotec773]

People don't mention enough that the CIVIC SI, is probably one of the most reliable car ever made. Yes there are flaws just like on any other vehicule, but it's definetly a car where you'll most likely never have to worry about repairing it. It's -cheap, -effective and -reliable. It's suuuuper inexpensive. Love the video!!

[@fhowland]

I’m still daily driving My 2008 Si.. not a single thing has broken

[@TheVteX]

I think hybrid car is the best option, here the anual circulation for those cars are more cheaper ( even brand new) than a normal petrol car, main problem is Honda civic ( this SI doesnt exist in europe) is very expensive 42k euros in portugal.

[@LIssandraSimp]

I'm ready to buy a Civic SI but I'm not paying anything above MSRP 😤 and everywhere I look they are tacking on 12% markup its annoying as fuck

[@jewishmomo]

several PA dealerships are at 5k markup

[@Mike696956]

Ya same 28k msrp is already pushing it for a civic anything over that is crazy. I paid 35k for my f150 new no way I'm justifying close to that for a civic

[@YasssStitch]

8:20 - what did you expect from a BMW, a BMW SUV driver at that...to park in a designated spot? Come on man, it's his God given right to park on that crosswalk, dagnabbit! :)

[@ARentz07]

Rattles are so hard to chase down. Some days, cars are noisy, but when you NEED them to make the noises, they stop. This leads to the dealership saying "UNABLE TO REPLICATE CONCERN". It's a judgment call of whether or not continuing to troubleshoot it is warranted.

[@manbeartr0ll325]

I also have over 5,000 miles on my Si. It's a lot of fun to drive. I've been driving a rental suv on vacation and I really made me realize how good my SI is. Anyways pros, shifter is wonderful, I got a low profile shift knob and it is the most chunky shifter I have felt (I've driven a Focus RS, and 2011 wrx with a short throw shifter) and the SI is the best I've felt. Handling is great, even on all season tires I was surprised how well it hooks up and grips in the rain. I also really like the interior and sound system. Front end looks great in my opinion. Plenty of aftermarket parts, and the platform seems good enough for me to add tasteful mods(right now i have a prl stage one intake, resonater delete, and shift knob, and I plan to add a conservative tune and some cosmetic stuff).Cons, the screen sometimes is terrible, it's slow and Android auto sometimes breaks. Clutch is hard to tell when it's disengaging, it seems like it's inconsistent. It is very light which is nice. Back end spoiler isn't my favorite. Rev hang is a little annoying especially when full throttle.

[@cliff8669]

How is the road/wind noise when driving on city streets and on the highway?

[@manbeartr0ll325]

@@cliff8669 Coming from a 2011 wrx its nothing. But wheels are noisy for sure. Wind noise isn't too bad in my opinion.

[@cliff8669]

@@manbeartr0ll325 Thank you for taking the time to reply. I've heard that changing out the all season tires for summer tires helps on the road noise. I have a 2020 Jetta SEL and I'm used to a quite ride.

[@manbeartr0ll325]

@@fulloddskurt5600 I personally don't have a tune, but from what I have heard a tune would remove revhang. Specifically Ktuner. Hondata doesn't remove rev hang from what I understand.

[@manbeartr0ll325]

@@fulloddskurt5600 Mine is sonic grey pearl. I would have liked black/white more though.

[@Drive_On]

It's been really cool watching your journey - thanks for sharing. I got my black Si the week the first wave hit dealerships here in Ohio.. It's been a real treat ever since with zero issues - 4800 miles in so far. I work from home so no commute - mostly use it as a family hauler (family of 4) and grocery getter. It makes normal mundane driving very fun - drivin' around town, weavin around cars. It's a super reasonable fun car. Thanks again!

[@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]

Civics should *NOT* have misaligned panels. I've owned a 6th gen and 8th gen and none of them had that issue.

[@sadiecase4014]

As someone using the new Si as a platform to learn manual on, your series of videos from your point of view help immensely in working out the smaller details of the manual mentaility. Thanks for the great stuff you've been doing so far, I look forward to your thoughts on the vehicle even further into it's lifespan.

[@Zycx2]

"A shame the doors in the back aren't red trim." Tedward: Get out of the vehicle mom.

[@TedwardDrives]

😂

[@kikomanster8188]

Looks like a perfect fun daily driver that is a gas saver! Production shortages and inflated car market with all the adjusted markups, this make it hard to get one. I live in WA state and they have if fully loaded with HPD that is priced right there with the new Acura Integra. For sure, I can’t imagine how much price markups the Type R will get once it comes out

[@stms4411]

I had to pay a 3,500 markup…..but I probably got 5-6k more than I should have for a 2017 brz. Net-net this is affordable and good. I fully expect mark ups for the integra…..you’ll end up paying 6-8k more for some creature comforts and a hatchback. Not a good use of $ for me.

[@ivanvillarreal8804]

dealers around my area (SoCal )want 5/7/10 gs more so i put a deposit down on an Integra with no markup, i feel like honda forced me into an acura.

[@stms4411]

@@ivanvillarreal8804 it will be interesting to see if the Acura dealer honors that. Hopefully, for your sake they will. The Honda dealers are marking the cars up because demand outpaces supply…..it’s hard to imagine that the majority of civic si enthusiasts won’t also know that the integra is essentially the same car (and drive up the price), but perhaps you’re gonna get quite lucky.

[@ChrisKim-eo9ku]

I feel like you learn a lot about a car as you drive it more (all the little things count!). My family has had a 2008 honda civic since I was young, and I never really knew the spec sheet properly (just the base model). Yesterday I found out that it had an open diff by sorta tripoding onto a friends steep driveway and just hearing wheelspin Even though it's a base model, it's a hella lot of fun to drive, reasonably weighted steering, weighs just over 1100kg and has enough torque. Enjoy what you drive people!

[@RCXDerp]

My sister had a 2008 civic. It's the reason I got a 2020 Si.

[@Affalterbach1967]

1:55 Channel trivia: Acura hat debuted at Florida Daytona oval track NSX Type S event ?

[@TedwardDrives]

Very Impressive! Yes that was a gift from Acura at Daytona and I've kept it with me ever since.

[@RyanRoadReaper]

I wonder if Tom still has that Ford Police Interceptor hat?

[@MoneyShift]

What an awesome machine Honda put together

[@johnnybravo5044]

Honda is cheap by not putting red colored inserts in the rear door panels and rear seats. It looks unfinished.

[@edwardinvegas]

Out here in CA it's gouge city the 2022 Civic Si is over $40K with "mark-up and accessories" I have looked around the country and they also are marking up anywhere from $3K to $10K over MSRP. If I am paying over $40K for a Civic Si... I am re-thinking this and considering a 2023 Type-R instead... YOLO

[@TedwardDrives]

I'm afraid what the Type R mark ups are going to look like

[@edwardinvegas]

@@TedwardDrives Right I thought that too... :-(

[@jameswillard1]

@@TedwardDrives exactly ☝️. That’s the issue with the playing the “for that price I’d buy this instead”. @Aaron Bell if you think Honda dealers won’t add even bigger premiums to the 23’ Type R I think you’re going to be disappointed. When I was shopping 22’ Civic Si’s back in January and was getting quoted $5k over I thought for that much I’ll just wait and get the new Integra …..fast forward to when the Integra hit the ground and all 3 of my local Acura dealers have market adjustment on those as well bring them to damn near $40k or above 😡🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Dachapon1122]

Or you could buy the new Acura Integra

[@edwardinvegas]

@@Dachapon1122 Why same deal mark-ups with the same engine and EVEN more.. ;-)

[@ericiidx]

I'm not sure if it was wholly intentional or just a hilarious coincidence, but I was served a 30-second ad between 1st and 2nd gear shifts.

[@diallo1347]

I really appreciate this long-term review/updates. It is very useful and realistic.

[@TedwardDrives]

12k mile update incoming

[@diallo1347]

@Tedward I can't wait! I was shopping between Si, Gti, and Wrx but you certainly convinced me on the Si.

[@Nnexxxx]

Do yourself a favor and have a friend drive while you sit in the back. You'll find every single source of trim jiggles from there

[@TomZonk]

Sure, just a civic. But if Honda can't get body panels right, stop making cars.

[@williamlong2682]

Into the 40’s MPG is damn good. I’ve seen like 37-38 at the most in my 6-speed Mazda3. Averaging like 33 overall.

[@jamesledermann5601]

Been waiting for the next SI vid. Him and topher are the best. My lease is up on my accord sport and thinking of getting this because of mpg and cheaper. Do you think it’s too much of a down grade

[@andrewb325]

I have about the same number of miles on mine. I feel like this is the right car for this moment if you still want to have fun and have reasonable running costs. Gas prices are getting crazy and electric isn’t quite there and still commands a premium price for a good one.

[@davidmasterinjo]

Honestly i would of gotten a BMW 2 series. More fun, pretty much the same mpg and rwd but hey, your choice

[@vinny2474]

As a daily driver, you want something with good gas mileage if you are driving a lot. I drive a 2021 kia forte gt. Its 201 HP and I have gotten 43mpg. I love it! Its fast enough for me. great MPG. cheap to maintain. These types of cars are the best cars to daily drive.

[@Supreme896]

My 2020 si to me for what u pay is the best car in the market i cant get out of it i find myself just sitting in my car

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

Don't buy the typeR, not recommended. it overheats, it's over weight and over priced from all the luxury it doesn't really need. And it overlapses most of the things you already have -minus how happy you feel about the purchase. Si is the sweet spot of honda's current lineup.

[@TedwardDrives]

The car hasn't been released, so none of that is known yet.

[@AnonAnon-qi4ts]

The track model Type R has fog lamps. That pretty much is a symptom of the disease with the stuff they chose to put on that car. For me though, the lack of the ability to divorce steering weight from drive mode is a no-go. Also my fat rear doesn't fit in the blood red seats. Talking about last gen.

[@shibaspeed]

The panel gaps would annoy me. I get that it isn’t a Porsche, but doesn’t Toyota do a better job compared to Honda?

[@DominikDoesGaming]

Absolutely love these types of videos ^_^

[@buoyant69]

It doesn’t bother you whatsoever that the front half of the car has a completely different interior than the back half because you don’t sit back there then immediately go on to comment about the immense importance of having a rear seat center armrest. Call me flummoxed.

[@chrispurcell3671]

I just hit 1700 miles on my si. Best car I've ever gotten to daily

[@webwebwebby0]

I went from a Volvo S60R daily driver to a 9th gen Civic. Your experience is identical to my experience, the difference was night and day between the two cars. Fit and finish on the Civic wasn't as good, agreed, but owning a Civic was life changing. I'll never own another European car again! I did miss the higher quality fit and finish, but if a car doesn't WORK AS A CAR and you're in a constant state of anxiety of what will break next, it's of no use to me AS A CAR to do car things.

[@jg54sayaka11]

volvo's are usually also known for their reliability though, at least the old ones

[@webwebwebby0]

​@@jg54sayaka11 Volvo reliability is all hot air. I've owned a bunch of them (redblock and whiteblock) and while they are safe and the rustproofing is the best in the business, the reliability is total crap. 164s had PCV issues, the early 240s wiring harnesses disintegrated, the PRV motors are known crap, 16 valve Redblock heads would warp, and don't even get me started on the S60R's $4500 dollar suspension jobs and the SPA/Geely stuff. Great...if your goal is to be broke.

[@v60polestar88]

You may be eating those words later because these honda 1.5L suffer from misfires, fuel injectors issues, and head gasket problems. Do your research before calling Volvo unreliable. Honda isn't the company it once was. You think the misfire he talked about was just some freak thing. OH it will be back

[@webwebwebby0]

@@v60polestar88 Bruh this is the hardest triggering I’ve ever seen in my entire life! 😂😂😂😂 Best of luck with the Stockholm Syndrome and reading lessons.

[@riseabove3082]

@@webwebwebby0 Honda's aren't that reliable either. It's a myth. I've owned several Accords in my days and NONE were reliable. Had an 03 Accord that needed a new tranny. An 06 Accord that needed a new radiator. An 05 Accord that needed $4K in suspension and another $3500 fixing an oil leak not to mention $400 spent on a different oil leak. It was constant repair-repair. Got rid of it for a 13 Accord 4cyl this time and it has that weird annoying loud sound when you start it which is another $1500 to fix. Nah, Honda and reliability is mythical garbage talk.

[@sdalexander8505]

Why are manufacturers struggling to make body panels line up correctly.? That’s bullshit to me.

[@AnonAnon-qi4ts]

They probably loosened the acceptable spec for the panel fitting production stage to meet costs. The Si and sedans come out of Canada as they have for a long time. The R will be built in Indiana with other hatchbacks. If you look qt cars like the Mustang, it is even worse many times. Maybe it's the stamping?

[@sdalexander8505]

@@AnonAnon-qi4ts Honda may not be producing the type R in Greensburg. Would be great if they did, but I don’t blame them for not trusting American quality control. I live about 50 miles from the Greensburg, IN plant. Looks like a nice place from the highway.

[@Newyen6MT]

I’m running Nokian Z/Line AS tires on my 13 Accord Coupe 6MT and they are an amazing performance AS tire coming in at less than $150 per tire. I’ll of course be getting some winter tires as well when time is closer. I recently bought the car and it’s been amazing to drive besides the slight rev hang the car has as well. I can get 28 mpg in the city and 36 mpg on the hwy with the AC on! Can’t beat that for a 2.4 NA engine. How has the cruise control been without the ACC slowing you down?

[@tvm2209]

30yr/m cross shopping between the new: - GR86/BRZ - MX5 Miata - Civic Si or Integra but Int doesn't seem worth the additional price - Old Lexus 560 or even 570 - Old Lexus 430 or even 400. This will be my only vehicle living in upstate NY so I do get hot summers and cold, snow covered winters. No family or kids just me and soon a dog (Cane Corso breed). Also considering the option of purchasing one of these cars and then add an old/cheaper 4x4 vehicle for winter. Someone decide for me

[@Blox282]

No kids & cold winters would push me to the BRZ for something fun year round in the snow. If you got a 4x4, the Miata is an easy choice.

[@Mark-rt6fy]

Can't suggest between sports cars vs suvs. Between gr86, mx5 and civic, rawness it's mx5 = gr86 > civic, creature comfort civic > gr86 > mx5.

[@matthewgonano636]

Mjata is always the answer

[@adrianstephan4011]

I wanna know, this or the corolla hatch...? I prefer this cuz of the stick shift (idk if the corolla has manual) but which yall think is better?

[@93455Driver]

Si vs Integra should not be a thing....but it is. ELS stereo, heated seats, adaptive dampers, and more cargo are nice to have, but not sure they are $6k+ nice to have. Then the Elantra N exists at $33k and seems bargain when u consider warranty, maintenance, and performance out the gate.

[@SIIKAP1]

I wish I had empty road drives like everyone getting 40+ MPG. My commute has a lot of traffic and stop lights, and the best I can get, with extreme babying it, is 32.5 MPG.

[@darrenmathias9384]

Maybe if you drive like a granny and slipstream trucks in traffic dense areas you'll get closer to 40mpg. I was able to do that the other day in my 2013 5 speed Lancer (dense but not stop and go traffic). Traffic is boring so might as well make an mpg game out of it lol

[@SIIKAP1]

@@darrenmathias9384 the only way I can get to work on time is to accelerate slightly quicker than the rest of traffic, or at least on par. On the commute there’s Probably over 20 lights, which means a lot of stopping and a lot of traffic. On a nice highway commute I can get over 38, but unfortunately my route is full of lights. AND somehow I hit almost every single one of them.

[@998Squid]

The rattles in the doors are likely from behind the door. On my accord the issue was the handle rattling against the metal. I used some Tessa tape to stop the noise. I also tightened down the parts of the door panel - you may try that.

[@PandaHero360]

Thanks for the review man! I’m looking at getting one and it’s really helpful having an in-depth consumer oriented review like this (compared to the reviewers with like 100 miles on it) to help me decide

[@mike80449]

I got 40 mpg in 6th gear on a 50 mph backroad this things a jack of all trades, fast “enough”, handles amazing, rockets out of corners, and if you are a new driver it will treat you great, if you are experienced it will be a delight!!

[@christophersmith8850]

Thumbs up man I agree with a lot you stated here. Hoping to pick a’23 up soon. I’m sold on it.

[@RichKnifes]

How does adaptive cruise control work in the Si if it’s a manual?

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

All the little problems it has, they go away on their own. And never really bother you consistently enough that you'll want to see a mechanic. The car fixes them.

[@b_nast19]

I love this car but can't seem to want to upgrade from my 2014 si coupe. The fog lights, the 2 doors, the engine (though obviously a bit less fuel efficient). Plus there's something that pisses me off about them not matching the back seats. My 2014 has a complete red seat interior, front and back. That's lazy to me. But I like this a lot better than the 10th gen. If there's one thing I have learned being a Honda guy, it's waiting for the refreshed model to come out. In the case of most Hondas it's usually a superior vehicle. So I'll wait the 2 years and see what they deal me. Edit: punctuation

[@ItsMe-tu4lc]

How did you manage to get this car at MSRP? Negotiating is almost non existent in regards to these cars and the type R is 15 to 25k over unless you know someone.

[@jessemarsh9386]

Love these videos, keep 'em coming! I have a reservation for an Integra 6MT, and I am eager to hear your thoughts, given your Si ownership will surely inform your opinion. The heated seats, sweet stereo, and other features are important to me, and although the price gap between the two is significant hefty at MSRP, the Integra feels more tempting and feels like a better deal when it's hard to find an Si without a hefty markup. My question is this: what have you done, if anything, to treat or prevent against rust? I know you're a fellow Southern New England driver, so seeing someone who deals with the same roads, salt, and weather conditions is pretty cool! (And while plenty of southern Civic Si drivers probably do not care much about heated seats, a lot of us up here certainly do!)

[@stms4411]

If you don’t pay a markup for the integra, that’s great…..but do you know what you’ll have to pay (out the door)? Is it MSRP or higher?

[@jessemarsh9386]

@@stms4411 There will certainly be tax/title/registration fees on my end, plus whatever extras for dealer accessories, certainly. And there are some dealerships that are absolutely marking up the Integra. That said, for me personally, I did pre-order/reserve the Integra and put down a deposit, and I have at least verbal confirmation from the dealership that they will sell the car at MSRP. Fingers crossed that there won't be any unexpected hijinks when the car comes in, but I will remain optimistic! :)

[@stms4411]

@@jessemarsh9386 good luck! If it’s MSRP you’ll have done very well….even if there’s a few hundred bucks of hard to justify fees

[@weaselman50]

I recently got a 6 speed integra. Has the drive ability of the si and the great features of the touring hatchback plus more!

[@stms4411]

@@weaselman50 - did you have to pay any markup?

[@clubracer6]

Ive been interested in this Si due to a possible move to Cali to be house poor, but life rich. 😎 Sold my 911 and Spec Miata, leaving me with my e90 2011 335i msport 6 speed. Figured I would sell it when it came time to move. A few days ago it spun a rod bearing and I’m not going to fix it. Could not find a dealer that had a Si in stock who would sell it for less than $5k over sticker. Some are asking 10! So I found a dealer selling an Integra A-spec at MSRP plus $600 worth of stuff for $2000. I test drove it and have to say I was disappointed, especially after positive reviews from you, Savage Geese, Every Day Driver and just about everyone else. For me me the clutch pedal had less feel then my sim rig and the engine was such an appliance. Which you kind of hinted at here. I went there in a borrowed F10 M5, so that probably did not help. With no immediate date for the move, I’m going to spend 7k more for a 16 F80 M3 6 speed. I don’t think you have ever reviewed one. I think if I did go this route, I will go with the Acura. HATCHBACK! Plus some really nice amenities. D

[@iana36s]

Lol I hear ya with the fuel economy. I also had a M3 and gotta say I love driving the Si. It’s a fun economical vehicle. Instead of Governments pushing EV’s They should be encouraging people to purchase small sedans like the Si for commuting.

[@imwithname843]

Honda should have made McLaren V10 in 1993.

[@sammilburn445]

its a shame you guys didnt get the mk8 fiest and them mk4 foucs out in america. yes they're 3 cylinders but they good little cars. my fiesta st line is great, only 100bhp (going to map it to 165bhp soon) but it sounds great, is decent on petrol too and they are a really nice cabin to be in. a mk4 foucs st could have been a perfect daily driver for you

[@breakthesteak7357]

I have to say this as a fact not an opinion : Honda has one of the best interiors for usual cars.

[@wackit6756]

Congrats on the new car. I have a '19' SI Coupe, and I bought it mainly because of the mechanical limited slip, the bolstered heated seats, and the adjustable suspension. Most people don’t understand the joy of a LSD on a curvy freeway on-ramp, but it makes me smile every time. Driven at 7 or 8 10ths, the 1.5 feels so quick, and I get an honest 40 mpg on the freeway. Wish I had your tech though!

[@bongchichi2155]

Got a 17 myself, and I agree about the lsd

[@buzztrucker]

Interesting how when a car is due for a synthetic oil change it's termed "long term ownership". Try more like past 60k at least.

[@OnlyToaey]

I just got mine 2 days ago. I love it! I just put 100 miles on my first day of owning it.

[@ak2112]

I NEVER cared about MPG and I don't even drive very much (about 9k/year) but the economy and low running costs of the SI is actually really appealing and might be enough to make me pick it over a WRX.

[@Ponsi37]

You would also be getting terrible gas mileage in the BRZ when compared to the Si.

[@TedwardDrives]

The brz is surprisingly thirsty!! Like 25mpg. Wild

[@OddlyJ]

I want one so bad its my goal to get one as a daily drive I have a first gen manual Xterra and the MPG is so bad I just can't wait to have a fuel efficient manual car again!

[@bigneiltoo]

I just bought this car. It's nice and all but is it just me or is that a pretty ugly engine? Looks like the M3 without the engine cover. The coil packs are just right there. I honestly thought something was missing.

[@keithjackson4985]

I'm glad you like it. I've owned three. I'm done with it, until it gets a power boost and a different look. Never been into sedans. I know it will last but, right now I'm at a place where I would deal with lower quality, for a wilder Si.

[@Riley8425]

I had a weird experience a couple times back when I had my '03 Acura Cl Type S. Every once in awhile if I spun the tires in the wet I would get a flashing check engine light (meaning a misfire) that I could not replicate any other way including spinning the tires while it was dry out. It happened a couple times but always the same way and I wonder if it is somehow similar to your misfire since they are both honda products despite being separated by 20 years.

[@uzah88]

Man I’m overseas right now but this seems like the best compromise for a guy wanting to start a family

[@JayTheBiggestBird]

I'm getting into cars & I found ur channel & watched over 10 of ur videos in the last few days & ima watch way more I'm loving the videos & very informative for a beginner