My max weight Mako3 in Champion plastic might be the straightest disc I've ever thrown but my 169g. Halo Mako3 acts just like a Buzzz and gives me a deeper grip. Great content guys!
@jamesfarabaugh666910 ай бұрын
Absolutely love my Champion Mako3. I have a halo star factory 2nd on its way and I can’t wait to see how it flies.
@oddarntnes707910 ай бұрын
they are usually a lot less stable than a buzzz and also less torque resistant by a whoooole lot.
@TBHDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
Really thought that the HEX would be number 1. Very shocked
@jasonriordan380810 ай бұрын
Especially because it has the same flight numbers
@detectablethickness10 ай бұрын
@@jasonriordan3808 hex is listed as a 5-glide. but glide is the worst of the flight numbers so your point is still a fair one lol.
@jasonriordan380810 ай бұрын
@@detectablethicknessyeah it does have the 5 glide but so does the reactor which they had at #3. But they are all good discs I bag all 3.
@detectablethickness10 ай бұрын
@@jasonriordan3808 ordinarily i would be the type to bag only reactors at different stages of wear so one is more flippy than the other. but mvp plastic is so dang solid it takes forever to beat in so you can’t do that as easily lol. so a reactor, hex, and echo are just great compliments for each other.
@AndreyDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
I've read a lot that the mustang is exactly the pathfinder. Do you agree?
@stevend132510 ай бұрын
My three fav buzz like mids are the hex, claymore, and Texas ranger
@CarlosMartinez-vk9su10 ай бұрын
My favorite mid is a hex, possible my favorite disc over all
@SwankyDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
The Hex is so good!
@arrowpoint1110 ай бұрын
Love the Westside Warship and DD EMac Truth in that slot, never clicked with a Buzzz for some reason.
@stefandomagalski372210 ай бұрын
My top 5. Innova Jay, Discmania MD3, Prodigy M4, Finish Line Supra, Wild Discs Addax Reborn.
@mikeziter5018 ай бұрын
My first thoughts were of the Clash Berry and the Axiom Hex. I throw all three (Buzzz, Hex, Berry) and enjoy each of them. If I had to pick one though, I'd say the Axiom Hex in Neutron or Eclipse plastic. Tough choice though.
@BradyDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
Should have tried the LSD Texas Ranger...
@patpaintsminis10 ай бұрын
Thought the Berry would make the list, it made my bag 🙃
@AprilJeremyF10 ай бұрын
Lone Stars Texas Ranger is a great alternative to the buzz, personally I was never a buzz fan and call the Texas ranger a better buzz.
@big_z25010 ай бұрын
Bravo plastic feels great
@michaeutech920110 ай бұрын
i bag the pathfinder in 2 plastics
@jaredcantlo10 ай бұрын
The metal flake Discmania MD 1 and Origin are fantastic strait mids
@mikethomas545110 ай бұрын
They fly differently though.
@jordanlamarca770910 ай бұрын
I looked for a backup to my Buzzz for a really long time and then someone gave me the mustang and I agree it’s so similar. However I can never go without my Buzzz first favorite and still in the bag after 18 years.
@user-wg3pd9kb3b10 ай бұрын
I still bag a Buzzz Pro D. I just love how it handles.
@ks-pg5sh10 ай бұрын
The Fission Reactor is my favorite from the list, but I own all five of the molds and would throw any of them on a single disc round. I have the Buzzz in several plastics, but throw mainly the Big Z and ESP FLX versions. (The ESP and Titanium occasionally get some time in the bag, but that Crystal one has only been off the shelf a couple of times.)
@heathenbyheritage209510 ай бұрын
Have y’all tried the Lone Star Disc Texas Ranger? 5/5/-1/1
@DarkRoastDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
I couldn't get over the weird hand feel of that rim lol
@brianc165110 ай бұрын
I like it. I like the Pathfinder more, but definitely a good option.
@garnerthecube10 ай бұрын
Yes it’s amazing, I can throw it almost as far as some of my fairway drivers.
@TrashPanda06910 ай бұрын
Great video guys! I gave your recommendations a try and ended up bagging 3 Buzzzs thanks for your help!!! 😏😏
@TheTopheradams10 ай бұрын
I find myself in a tough position. I don’t disagree with most of your list, I really would like to know your thoughts on the Texas Ranger?
@JesseJ58810 ай бұрын
I'd also check out the Viking Discs Axe. It's kind of stuck between a putter and midrange but it's take every shot I'd use a Buzzz for.
@metalisit10 ай бұрын
I would have thought the Hex would be on the list.
@jamesfarabaugh666910 ай бұрын
Definitely the Mako3 for me. It’s my go-to utility disc that I can trust. I also bag a Torpedo (a.k.a. Pathfinder?) when I need more fade at the end.
@InbredJed8206010 ай бұрын
I love the reactor. I wanted a overstable hex. This is it
@brianc165110 ай бұрын
Here I thought that I was going to have to recommend the Pathfinder. Shocked it was #1. It kicked my EMac Truth right out of the bag. My Big Z Buzzz has never been good. I finally got ESP flx Buzzz. So far, I like that better. Hex was just okay. I also like the Texas Ranger. When the snow melts, I am going to have a straight mid throwing session to compete for my bag slot.
@garnerthecube10 ай бұрын
YES the Texas Ranger is the farthest flying mid I’ve thrown.
@jasonbarksdale830710 ай бұрын
I rock the Hex as my Buzzz. In neutron it flies so much like it but just didnt like hand feel of the Buzzz. I wanna try a TSA tho
@GoManGoDiscGolf-he5ho10 ай бұрын
Love my Buzzz. It’s usually my go to midrange. I do like the Westside Tursas but it is a little more unbeatable .
@lothar108010 ай бұрын
My wife/daughter got me a Buzz grip bag, then a Buzz cart years later. I guess I needed to try a Buzz and I've fallen in love.
@marceltress191110 ай бұрын
Yall should try a Yikun Zheng! Feels pretty similar to a Buzzz and flies great for me. I am curious to see how it flies for yall. Nature line plastic feels really good, similar to ESP and it looks really pretty.
@hendojr329610 ай бұрын
I'm shocked you didn't put the MD3 or Chariot on this list. Both are what I consider great alternatives and the Chariot comes in SO MANY plastic choices
@jii-ro708310 ай бұрын
md3 is more OS than buzzz but its also way better disc than a buzzz. Discraft plastic is kinda shit
@hiddenleaf41410 ай бұрын
I love the Chariot but the Anubis or MD1 would be a closer comparison to the Buzzz.
@hendojr329610 ай бұрын
every buzzz ive ever thrown have been on the more stable side. The Chariot has some plastics that are flippier than others just like the buzz does.@@hiddenleaf414
@MonkeyFreeZone10 ай бұрын
Wow - love my pathfinder, but didn't think it would make your list.
@ellisj9810 ай бұрын
c line md3, hex, c line md1
@youreatowel110310 ай бұрын
Love the pathfinder. Mine (blue ethereal plastic) is randomly stable and will never turn on me. The one my friend has (nebula aura) is quite flippy for both of us. I'm probably gonna grab another in nebula aura because I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't have a "flippy" pathfinder. Its definitely the most reliable and most used disc I bag though.
@austino671010 ай бұрын
In the process of trying to decide between plastics. Is the nebula aura slick compared to the ethereal? I really wanna get a mantra, pathfinder combo since my home course is very wooded.
@Mcshotty10 ай бұрын
Fun fact, the pathfinder and mustang are literally the exact same mold
@JustBBlunt10 ай бұрын
Love my Pathfinders.
@jeffperry696910 ай бұрын
I personally like the core latitude 64, not sure if they even make it anymore.
@McSlobo6 ай бұрын
Well well. I'm a Buzz thrower and to me the feel matters so these might not be the best alternatives, and they're more overstable, but DD EMac Truth would be my #1 replacement. Then maybe Compass and/or Trust. Haven't tried Neo Origin or MD1 but I suppose they'd be great. At least I like the feel of the Neo Method. I have 6 Buzzes (2 Z, 1 ESP, 2 ESP FLX) and 1 SS (Z) and have lost 2 during the last 15 years so don't think I'll be switching. :D SS Buzz doesn't have the embossed text inside rim so it works worse in rain. The text there is great, you can fight me.
@nathanielredd125210 ай бұрын
Y’all should try the LSD Ranger, it is incredible! It’ll fly dead straight, with amazing hand feel!
@Munchylego10 ай бұрын
Mustang is fabulous! I have many many too many of them!
@derekrochniak36310 ай бұрын
Streamline is the red headed stepchild in the MVP family but the Echo is probably the most underrated mid in the game. It’s a slightly farther flying Buzz ss
@InbredJed8206010 ай бұрын
Streamline is for poors
@detectablethickness10 ай бұрын
echo is the people’s hex
@mikethomas545110 ай бұрын
So many people did not listen to the point of this video. Many discs mentioned here fly nothing like or definitely different than a buzz. In particular the mako3 and md1. I’ve found the DD truth to be pretty close. Have not tried the ones you mentioned (because I like my buzzes). Thanks for the video.
@Rellik13710 ай бұрын
I recently got the mvp uplink and I love it, I can get it to go about the same distance as my 148 gr wraith 😂
@eoghana31510 ай бұрын
Mine would be in no particular order: 1. MVP Matrix 2. Millennium Aurora MS/Infinite Chariot (same disc) 3. DGA Rift 4. Discmania MD3 5. Latitude 64 Trust
@noahhood647410 ай бұрын
Mint recently changed the flight number for the Mustang to 5/5/0/1
@danshackelford10 ай бұрын
I like the Kastaplast Göte! 4/5/0/1, though.
@cameron650910 ай бұрын
Emac Truth. Easy f find and it is a great disc
@artotunkkari968410 ай бұрын
Fission reactor😍
@OGSook3 ай бұрын
I prefer my prodigy M4 (400 plastic) over my buzzz (z-line plastic) just feels so much better all around to me.
@BenPalm10 ай бұрын
The DGA Rift should have been number one on this list. Feels just like a Buzzz and flies just like it with a small bit of stability at the end of its flight.
@DiscGolfDemastus10 ай бұрын
Texas Ranger was a treacherous snub.
@GingaNinja8910 ай бұрын
Mint mustang all day!!! I bag 3 sublime, eternal, and base. So money.
@adielcerriteno199010 ай бұрын
Love the warship personally
@TheJoakimalden10 ай бұрын
I suppose you never tried the MD1 from discmania in S-line plastic!?😉
@archangel1910 ай бұрын
Can you guys do a series on journey to 400+ ft drive
@detectablethickness10 ай бұрын
i swear the streamline echo is the most slept on disc that’s come out in the last couple years. can’t believe y’all did 3 mvp-made discs (2 of them being the exact same) and didn’t even get the best mvp-made neutral mid in the bunch.
@BradyDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
Jumping on that MVP hype I guess
@detectablethickness10 ай бұрын
@@BradyDiscGolf it’s a very fair thing to do. honestly props to them for not going with the hex. woulda been too easy.
@BradyDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
I haven't thrown an echo, but they felt great in the hand!
@pascalblais830110 ай бұрын
I would suggest a mako3 but it flies more straight than a buzz.
@rockbrown8810 ай бұрын
The Pathfinder is fantastic but the Hex not being on this list blew my mind
@sc363910 ай бұрын
What would my alts be? M3 (prodigy) Hex (Axiom) Mako3 (innova) Emac truth base plastic (DD) MD3 (Discmania) Honorable mention the envy. Its a putter but I feel like it gets very much the same flight as a Buzzz. And wow. none of our picks are the same. interesting.
@bsmithhammer10 ай бұрын
No mention of the Hex? Whuh??!
@ToddsDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
Crazy Mako 3 didn’t make the list.
@mikethomas545110 ай бұрын
Because it flies differently.
@DarkRoastDiscGolf10 ай бұрын
#1 is the correct answer for sure.
@brianc165110 ай бұрын
Yes.
@benistoneman973710 ай бұрын
Bro. DGA rift is made by discraft and is way better and flies farther. Way closer to a buzz the the reactor. Elements are hella dope too.
@inimitableminimalist10 ай бұрын
it's crazy to me how far I can get the rift to go if I really rip on it, given the flight numbers. the only midrange I've gotten over 300 feet. and it handles heavy wind well too, despite not having a heavy fade. definitely would be my choice for a one disc round right now.
@benistoneman973710 ай бұрын
@@inimitableminimalist yes sir we have a little nine holes we’ll play mids and putters and my rift is like a cheater disc it goes as far as my fairways and you can really get on it.
@mikethomas545110 ай бұрын
The theme was that FLY the same, not better or farther.
@benistoneman973710 ай бұрын
@@mikethomas5451 fair enough. Got me on that one
@williamhubert629910 ай бұрын
Probably should have combined the pathfinder and mustang since it is the exact same mold and plastic just with different branding
@Iliyena8710 ай бұрын
You made it hard on yourself with the Claymore plastic xD It's not Royal Grand/Sense but normal Gold-line Orbit probably. ;) (Zero Soft/Medium/Hard, Retro, Opto, Gold, Opto-Ice, Opto-X, Orbit Opto-Ice Gold-X Chameleon... ok I get you :P But the 19 different plastics of Gateway is a bigger problem ;) )
@shawnhill477910 ай бұрын
Trash Panda Dune is a great straight flying mid-range (at least straight for my noodle arm).
@akkadian199510 ай бұрын
MD3, Hex, Truth, Jay, Warship
@Loudberg10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for including the Claymore! In my opinion it is one of the most underrated discs out there and it feels quite different to my hands than the Buzzz...
@jaredcantlo10 ай бұрын
The discmania Iron Samurai MD3
@felixflingsfrisbees10 ай бұрын
I will yell and scream every time I do not hear the EMac Truth mentioned in a midrange conversation. It can do it all and that is why I bag 3 of them.
@JohnnyFairway10 ай бұрын
The Fuse flies pretty straight with the old noodle arm
@mikethomas545110 ай бұрын
For my noodle arm the buzz flies straight with a good left finish, while the fuse is quite understable.
@KyleCain-j5h10 ай бұрын
Md3 easily
@Bowl84510 ай бұрын
I’m VERY surprised that the Hex wasn’t even on this list,… or 1st.
@uncleguppy407910 ай бұрын
Mint Discs Just changed the numbers of the Mustang to 5|5|0|1. Good move Mint Discs
@tommybarrilleaux519710 ай бұрын
MD3 all day!!!
@FrJacobRogers10 ай бұрын
So the Mustang and the Pathfinder are actually the same disc… same as the torpedo from remix on Amazon. All the same mould.
@FrJacobRogers10 ай бұрын
Also, the pathfinder in proton plastic is more stable than any buzzz.
@ForrestMillerMusic10 ай бұрын
Cool vid challenge: try not to use the word “literally”
@austinstreit136310 ай бұрын
Let me know when you grow up and decide to throw the roc
@tommyboy3117710 ай бұрын
No Berry?!?
@Dyring7510 ай бұрын
I missed the Clash discs Berry 5 5 - 1 1 Disc mania original 5 5-1 1
@michealcarter431110 ай бұрын
Discmania Origin? Clash Berry? Prodigy M4? Innova Jay? Infinite Chariot? So many options.
@Sparti300010 ай бұрын
Origin is way flippier than the numbers and the buzzz. MD3 is a better comp from discmania
@baronrichmond566710 ай бұрын
I hate the Buzzz. DGA Aftershock is one that has been in my bag ever since first holding one in my hand.
@christopheracuna9894 ай бұрын
the mustang and pathfinder are literally the same disc lol
@boblandry776010 ай бұрын
Any top 5 Mid list without the Hex is invalid.
@michaelmccourt499210 ай бұрын
Rift!
@Jay-i3x4 ай бұрын
Buzzz
@trev397110 ай бұрын
Ching Roc Ching Roc Ching Roc Mako3 Ching Roc
@jeffreyplord10 ай бұрын
Lame... 3 out of 5 molds made by mvp & 2 may be the same disc? Maybe you could check next time or just go with a different title like here are 3 mvp discs to replace your buzzz
@reidausband939210 ай бұрын
Guys...Cinnamon Toast Crunch IS, in fact, General Mills
@brirock77210 ай бұрын
😮😢😂
@wickedrs_71610 ай бұрын
Worst list ever
@tinymadness2210 ай бұрын
a new mindbender is better
@tonyevans25510 ай бұрын
Trash Panda Dune. Replaced my buzz.
@judasblewit10 ай бұрын
Discraft plastic sucks. This new jawbreaker z flx is the best ive felt from them and they wont produce a ton of molds in it.
@Lou-jl4ov10 ай бұрын
all those discs suck
@southtoe360710 ай бұрын
Buzzz is garbage Doesn't glide enough and is way more stable than it claims to be Innova Cobra is the disc.