5 Racing Teams Who Were Caught Cheating

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@malcolmmackenzie9202
@malcolmmackenzie9202 Ай бұрын
3:30 the boost tank wasn't technically illegal as the air had already passed through the restrctor plate so didn't need to go through it again.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Yep, I think it was a clever engineering idea! But it didn’t really seem to make a huge difference anyways
@LuTheMartian
@LuTheMartian Ай бұрын
I haven't heard much cheats in motorsport but the Toyota "turbo gate" was a wild one, especially when you see the cross profile of the turbo and see how a small opening can create so much performance. Great video mate.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Thank you, I was shocked myself when doing research 😂 the lengths teams are willing to go to for the win are wild, should do another video on this topic hehe
@LuTheMartian
@LuTheMartian Ай бұрын
@@only_revved_up Make a standalone on this one, there's got a ton on it.
@andrewb8548
@andrewb8548 Ай бұрын
And the 5 gallon fuel line wasn't hidden, it was right where it was supposed to be. It was 3 inches in diameter. The rules said nothing about size.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Yep, exactly ☝️
@RightLadd
@RightLadd Ай бұрын
There is also the story where Lancia with their 037 in the Monte Carlo rally, knew they would lose to the Audi Quattro on the snow and ice, so they petitioned the Monte Carlo council to salt the roads prior to the rally on safety grounds. Knowing this they put slicks on their car while the other teams including Audi ran snow tyres, and gained a massive advantage over the other teams. Motorsport Story had it in his video. It's incredible the lengths teams will go to! It's a shame how modern WRC has fallen.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
That’s an awesome story, I haven’t heard this one yet! Thanks for sharing, I’m googling this rn
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 Ай бұрын
IMHO, can’t like the modern WRC cars anymore, they look like overpriced imitations of cars you get at a chav infested car park at McDonald’s
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info Ай бұрын
@@only_revved_up Yes, I have heard of this. Lancia was full of elegant tricks. I remember two occasions of really long stages when Lancia worked out how long a tyre and brake pad change would take and how much time could be gained with fresh tyres. Where everybody had to household with tyres and brakes, Lancia ended up doing a mid stage "pit stop" and be faster than the opposition!
@EvLSpectre
@EvLSpectre Ай бұрын
I love the OH NO my belts have suddenly came undone. Oh my helmet to!! All to let the dust settle more in-between starts
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info Ай бұрын
@@EvLSpectre I love those too! One memory Rally Australia 2000 first on the road debate 1st stage Sunday and at the TC Richard Burns suddenly had a puncture and was allowed to change it. I will never forget his rogue grin when he said to Robert in front of TV cameras "what bad luck"
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info Ай бұрын
Hi, Several replies of mine below hopefully show you I really like your video and the idea behind it. So please don’t feel bad if I have a number of things to correct here. 1) The Peugeot thing in 1986 is really complicated, I can’t write this in short words. I hope people don’t stop reading here, but I try to stay in order of the video: It is wrong to say the side skirts helped especially on rough terrain. There is no ground effect on gravel, they helped only on tarmac. This bit is important! Because on the Peugeots it was not added side skirts, it was part of the underbody protection, which was homologated aka approved by the FISA. Peugeot used this on all events including rough gravel, where there is no ground effect. Further remember the FISA did big favours to Lancia (out of all of them) and Mazda in early 1987. But most of all, I believe the FISA had very little interesst to support Peugeot in any way right at that point: - Peugeot had already confirmed they are leaving the WRC - Peugeot had a big court case against the FISA because of the way the groupB/S bans came and won! - The last thing the FIA needed in the turmoil of 1986 was having yet another event cancelled completely, especially in a way that the event was cancelled from the calendar AFTER it happened, which is unique in over 50years of WRC history. - And note, you say Peugeot was kicked out of only one event. Nope, everybody was kicked out on that event, including Lancia, as the event was annulled after it finished, quite a scandal, that as I said the FISA certainly did not at all need at that point. SO, WHAT HAPPENED? Well, I somehow compare it to the Mini disqualification in Monte 1966, which I commented somewhere below. San Remo was the Italian round of the WRC and the Italians wanted to see an Italian car to win the rally and title. But Peugeot dominated the event. So like the Minis in Monte 66, the Italian rally organisers tried to find whatever they could to kick Peugeot out. Now comes the really tragic bit: FISA/FIA/WRC law since ever is if a team is punished, they have the right to appeal and until that appeal is decided they can carry on and results stay provisional. So the Italians disqualified Peugeot, Peugeot did appeal that decission, but totally against the common sense procedures the Italians refused to let Peugeot carry on. So once the court of appeal confirmed the Peugeot underbody protection was perfectly as homologated and legal, normal procedure would have been to re-instate the old result. But there was no old result, because the Italian’s did not let Peugeot continue under appeal, and in doing so it was the Italian organisers that were completely in breach of FISA rules. Since the “old” result could not be re-instated the FIA had no other option but to kick the entire rally out of the WRC that year, and that was surely the last fiasco the FIA needed at that point! Sorry this was long. But there clearly is more than one side of the story and the Italin organisers did a massive, WRC-law breaching mistake. 2) Ford titanium boost tank. I understand it was not illegal at the time. It was a new idea that the FIA then looked into and changed the rules to outlaw it, which Ford/M-Sport then did accordingly. Clever idea, but I also remember in the end it wasn’t as efficient as M-Sport/Ford hoped. And indeed, there is a false information at 4:29 no, Ford and their drivers were never disqualified from any event for this. In fact in all of 2003 their lead driver Markko Märtin was only disqualified once, Australia, and that was because of a safety issue. 3) Audi swapping cars Here at 5:40 “Nothing was ever proven and Mouton went to finish the rally”. No, she didn’t! Yes, the cars disappeared and journalists and photographers came out and spotted that windscreen securing brackets and jack holes in the sills seemed to have changed position, which is not done easily and would make no sense in changing. In the last service Audi withdrew Mouton. And that meant since Mouton had no result anyway, there was no reason to follow this up further. Quite likely cars were swapped, and the fact that Audi eventually withdrew Mouton when her car seemed to run alright, may actually be seen as Audi admitting it. But since no result was to be contested was exactly why it was never proven. 4) Toyota’s turbo cheat. Well, as simple as that: Yes, that was a massive cheat, and a clever one. But it was clearly cheating and they got the penalty for it. - I have never heard of Smokey Yunick, I am not into American racing, but an interesting one indeed. So let me finish on a funny note, as the underlying title is how far motorsport teams are going. Maybe my example best fits the Ford titanium tank story: One year (I can’t remember now which) the FIA wanted to cut cost in rallying and banned hydraulic sequential gear changes. Come Monte in the new season and everybody was on H-pattern gearboxes as expected, but Citroen still had sequential. This of course was challenged, to which Citroen replied: “Hydraulic sequential gearboxes are banned, ours is pneumatic!” Poah, who didn’t read the rule books now? This was soon corrected, but until the FIA sorted out their bureaucracy Citroen enjoyed their advantage and nobody could do anything about it! Just because of one word too many in the complicated rules, haha!
@ErikvsLenny
@ErikvsLenny Ай бұрын
Damn. Production level is crazy. Im sure if you hustle - youll get there
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Cheers mate, thank you! Will keep at it!
@andreasbenning
@andreasbenning Ай бұрын
Let's just tell people that aren't aware that the segment about Smokey Yunick was cut shoooooort! He had lots of tricks up his sleeve! However, not to be a grumpy-pant, but does he really belong in this line-up? He, didn't cheat, he just did what what the rulebook didn't forbid. Thanks for uploading! Greetings from Sweden
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Wow, I got people watching all the way from Sweden! Cheers mate! He really doesn’t belong here, but he’s just an icon of these kind of tricks hehe. Wouldn’t be complete without him 😁
@andreasbenning
@andreasbenning Ай бұрын
@@only_revved_up I think it's the first of your videos I've seen. I liked that you're narrating it yourself instead of using a stupid AI voice. 😁 Yeah, I guess he belongs there anyway. He had a unique perception of what rules is. 😄
@philiprowney
@philiprowney Ай бұрын
Hey Mr 90 subs. I loved your thumbnail. [ had an ST162 myself, always fancied an ST182 or even ST185 ] _Smokey's_ 'bag' was stolen by Robert Duvall in Days of Thunder ;-) [ great intro ]
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
99 already, we growing 🙈 ST162 is a solid car still, you modified it at all?
@philiprowney
@philiprowney Ай бұрын
@@only_revved_up I had 3 in a row and the 150k mile engine went onto street racing in the Cam Fens ;-) This was 25 years ago. My projects currently are an '02 Focus 2.0 Ghia and a 96 Volvo 850 T5 Wagon. I have an Aygo just to rep Toyota still ;-)
@schanche1965
@schanche1965 Ай бұрын
What about the Subaru with a jet engine within the exhaust to produce boost even when the engine was at idle?
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Looking into it, thanks for bringing this up! Got to do a part 2 I guess hehe
@mikulasbradacek9766
@mikulasbradacek9766 Ай бұрын
Hi! Great video! I am glad that youtube algorythm worked for once! Keep it going! (just a little suggestion tho, try to center yourself for the camera- and i know you didn’t do it on purpose) just a thought
@daveabbott
@daveabbott Ай бұрын
Of course, you haven't mention the other 18 teams that WEREN'T caught!
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Next video incoming
@godwindracing6056
@godwindracing6056 Ай бұрын
In the UK, the Toyota cheating scandal wasn’t a big deal as the title was eventually given to Colin McRae and Subaru/Prodrive
@highspeedhawk
@highspeedhawk Ай бұрын
Mini were disqualified from the 1966 monte Carlo Rallye handing the win to French Citroens. According to Paddy Hopkirk the French officials did everything to find fault with the Mini including removing and weighing the individual wheels of the British cars. Eventually, Mini lost first, second and third place due to running with dipped headlights. It has been highly speculated that the officials were deliberately favouring Citroen with their famous DS. There is a news reel with more on this called we was robbed.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Awesome story, thanks for sharing. With my love for the Mini I should just make another video entirely focused on them 😂
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info Ай бұрын
@@only_revved_up Yes, this was one massive farce by the organisers. I think in the end it was the light bulbs that got Mini disqualified. The surprising and lesser known bit is that this awarded win did more damage than gain for Citroen. Pauli Toivonen had so many successes over many years with Citroen, but being awarded this win meant Pauli left the team on the spot in disgust. Citroen themselves were not happy either, they received a lot of bad press and left the ERC (the top series back then) and concentrated on marathons as London-Sydney, Liége-Sophia-Liége, Morocco and the likes instead. If you want to make a video on the Minis in Monte, I remember what must have been one of the most hysterical stories in rally history. That said, what I don’t remember is who the driver was, either Aaltonen or Hopkirk, if interested I try to check. In those years the big battle of Monte Carlo was Mini vs Mercedes. On the fast sections the powerful Mercedes was unbeatable, but come hairpins, especially downhill, the light and nimble Minis could fight back. One year when Mini was testing before the event, they were on top of a mountain pass at night and saw lights further down and said driver was convinced “This is Mercedes testing. Come on we are going to annoy them”, got team boss Stuart Turner into the codrivers seat and stormed off down the mountain. While doing so the driver got more and more concerned: “Stuart, we are not catching them, we don’t come any closer, and that in downhill serpentines.” He went on and on: “Honestly, boss, if Mercedes is that fast on downhill hairpins, we can go home now, we will never win that rally against them”…. At the bottom of the hill they had eventually caught up. It wasn’t Mercedes testing, it was two nuns in a Citroen 2CV!
@olivialambert4124
@olivialambert4124 Ай бұрын
Most of these examples were never illegal. If it doesn't break the rules it's not illegal. I can understand why they might be included, they're similar enough, but specifically describing them as illegal, rule breaking, etc isn't right.
@skylineXpert
@skylineXpert Ай бұрын
From what i remember Lancia had two NOS bottles hidden In the delta in the way early 90s...
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
lol, I will look into that!
@andrewb8548
@andrewb8548 Ай бұрын
Smokey put a basketball in the fuel tank that was deflated after tech inspection.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
🏀🏀🏀
@Rose_Butterfly98
@Rose_Butterfly98 Ай бұрын
Toyota is like the good kid in class who's like a teacher's pet but they're so nice to everyone that nobody minds. Until you get to know them and they're deranged to the maximum. Like the time they want to lemans and the restructions said they needed to be able to fit a suitcase. So they said that their fuel tank was large enough to fit one and therefore it was good enough.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
I’ve never heard this story, am already googling this lol
@LeafFerret
@LeafFerret Ай бұрын
Didn't Ford use last year's car in the first 3 rallies of 2003?
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info
@chrisbiewer-rallye-info Ай бұрын
Indeed they did. Focus RS '03 debuted in NZ, rd4 2003
@SamsWeirdAntics
@SamsWeirdAntics Ай бұрын
The thumbnail points out the back tire…?
@BackBoneRock
@BackBoneRock Ай бұрын
"T-yota"... -.-
@mikelakowski8120
@mikelakowski8120 Ай бұрын
The best cheats are the ones that arent in this video
@samghost13
@samghost13 Ай бұрын
Still Lancia was the coolest Team!
@EditsYoutube.
@EditsYoutube. Ай бұрын
You deserve so many more subs
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
We’ve got 100 subs already, more to come 😄 Thank you for the comment, much appreciate it!
@AstroGamer_da_real
@AstroGamer_da_real Ай бұрын
i bet the script is ai generated
@Herrie199
@Herrie199 Ай бұрын
One can only imagine what cheats went unnoticed 😂
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Absolutely 😂
@JurekBogdanowicz
@JurekBogdanowicz Ай бұрын
Nice bullshit, ford never got a dsq for the 2003 boost. Actually ford is always in points since monte 2002 (common erc knowledge). Make a video after serious research, not after 2 wiki articles an watching half hearted other yt vids. Stopped watching after i heard that ford-dsq...😂
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Wasn’t Markko Märtin disqualified in Austria driving for Ford that year? I will double check the info once again, thank you for pointing this out for me, will do better 🫡
@JurekBogdanowicz
@JurekBogdanowicz Ай бұрын
@@only_revved_up austria? Didnt know central europen rally happened already in 2003 but Ok...🤣🤣🤣 i live in vienna so i shoulf have kangooros at home but somehow they not here still. he was dsq for using a stone to stabilize spare wheel or similar. Ford used a grey zone with that, that grey zone was late covered by rules and all was good. Please, dont make more videos like this, you just missinform people. Check at least ewrc results before you say shit...
@fontheking5
@fontheking5 Ай бұрын
Australia 2003, for replacing a broken spare wheel mount with a rock.
@patrikpolda
@patrikpolda Ай бұрын
Ford technically wasn't cheating. It just wasn't in the rules. So they couldn't be disqualified for this.
@only_revved_up
@only_revved_up Ай бұрын
Agreed, i will look into it more to make sure 🤔
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