9 Players Who FORCED Rule Changes In The NHL

I today's video we go over 9 cases where a player forced the NHL to create entirely different rules, or modify existing rules to cover an outrageous situation.
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[@RobTalksHockey]

What rule should be changed today?! On a side note. The 210% stat was meant to be the difference, not a decrease.

[@connorwallace5274]

Hand passes should be reviewable, just like an offside review. And yes, I am a salty vegas fan.

[@jackb9830]

The offside review should be scraped!!

[@nyfo29]

the lacross style goal needs to be banned. carolina player smacks flames goalie in the face as hes putting the puck in the net. some goalie is gonna have his eye taken out

[@CobraNahk]

@@nyfo29 the goalie said he was fine with the play, pure skill. He doesn't think it should be taken out of the league

[@jamendailey7372]

The refs should be banned lol

[@golfgrabu]

Marchand licking the other guy got me laughing for 10 minutes.

[@OldHickory7]

They said that was gross misconduct. Are they being literal with the word gross?

[@johnbrowne3950]

Marchand can do WHATEVER HE WANTS!

[@stevebabiak6997]

I can just picture an incident where a player who had the corona virus and recovered using the threat of licking the opponent to get some space ...

[@Gl-my8fw]

Just as bad as spitting or worse but he got no punishment l.

[@shawnegan4621]

Hell ya Dominque

[@flowmastaflam]

The Sean Avery incident is probably my favorite. Nobody had thought to do that before, it was so odd and almost everyone was just staring at what was happening. I couldn't stop laughing at how weird it all was.

[@1075austin]

if i remember correctly that was the first time a player had ever faced a goalie while screening which im pretty sure is still legal

[@flowmastaflam]

and Jamie Benn just lifted the net to poke check! Hahaha things are still goofy as ever

[@stevebabiak6997]

If you think about it and stretch interpretations a bit, the stick waving could have been flagged as unsportsmanlike conduct. Standing there being OK, but the deliberate distraction not so much. I guess that even depends on how the rule book defines what constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct too.

[@stevenmartin3741]

My head is still spinning from this 210% decrease in fighting...

[@RobX_SWE]

The point is that a 210% decrease would lead to a negative number fights. :-)

[@Drew2ub]

People were getting ran and no player safety, they had to police the league themselves.

[@dickwells7172]

@ASHVINAN SIVASAMBU Yes! What would a 100% decrease look like?

[@heww3960]

I also notice that. But he has clarified what he meant with it.

[@kipblass2131]

@ASHVINAN SIVASAMBU If it was down 100% there would have been 0 fights. So being down 210% means the NHL had an amazing -811 fights!

[@BrycePearce]

Rob: "Next we have the Brad Marchand incident," Me (whispering to myself): "Which one?" Rob: "and I know what you're thinking... 'Which One?'."

[@christiandavidson1425]

What about The Martin Broduer Rule that created the trapizods a no-go for the goalies to play the puck?

[@factbeaglesarebest]

There were other goalies far better at puck handling...

[@ReiverGames]

Thats why the rule is nicknamed the "Other-goalies-that-were-far-better-at-puck-handling rule". Or maybe Broduer just abused the lack of rule better?

[@david4925]

Fact: Beagles Are Best - Its literally known as the Brodeur Rule.

[@TheNightmareFish]

Hey Yeah... What about The Martin Broduer Rule that created the trapizods a no-go for the goalies to play the puck?

[@vomkghost2253]

@@factbeaglesarebest are you on crack lol better puck handeler then brodeur hahaha

[@dryicex4083]

The Wayne Gretzky rule.. from the 80's, to create offseting penalties. where the oilers would create penalties to open ice for gretzky with 4 on 4 hockey.

[@miguelohara9534]

What? Never knew that

[@nightwalker4769]

I'm pretty sure Gretzky is also the reason fighting was no longer penalized by 4 on 4 hockey, for exactly this reason. Now the players who fought sat out for however long, yes, but play resumed as normal with 5 on 5. Actually, now that I think about it, this may be the rule that created this scenario xD

[@roofpizza1250]

good one.

[@teg2007]

@@nightwalker4769 I’m pretty sure fights have been 5 on 5 since the original 6

[@alexleskaj3612]

On behalf of the Sharks and Golden Knights, the call of 5 minutes was most utterly necessary, he was slammed to the ground which, if angled badly, could seriously injure and with the force applied that was a major and possibly more. Glad the sharks took that one.

[@dw1784]

You obviously didn't watch the replay. It was a collision not a body check. There was no intent to even hit him. Accidents in that case aren't even penalties. It was an atrocious call that deflated Vegas and then everything fell apart. San Jose had no business being given the opportunity to score all those goals.

[@kaszael]

No mention of how they actually prevented the goaltenders from handling the puck in the corners behind the net because of Brodeur? (The trapezoid rule) Or what about ending a minor penalty after being scored on because of the 1955-56 Canadiens? (See Jean Beliveau's hat-trick vs Boston on the same 5-3 powerplay on 11/05/1955) Those were major changes to how the game was played, but yes, it's true you can't lick your opponents or waive your stick in their faces now. EDIT: Also, I always thought it was Kovalchuk's contract that forced the rules change on contracts term limits (his 15yr/100M$ contract with the Devils in 2010)

[@Kwert]

Another really massive one would be the change that offsetting minors still result in 5-on-5, which is entirely due to Gretz and the 1980s Oilers.

[@FBCGodfather]

Kovi was just the first to have his new deal rejected under the change.

[@fishrocker95]

i thought dipietro had a contract even longer that forced the league to change the rules on how long contracts can be?

[@nathandelong7069]

I remember like yesterday when Kovalchuk bailed on that huge contract. A lot of fans still think he’s a jerk for it.

[@thomaspella5776]

The parise and suter contracts also did that

[@JaredtheRabbit]

The reason the Calder Memorial Trophy is the way it is can be traced to one guy: Sergei Makarov, who won the trophy at 31. The NHL changed the rules regarding the trophy so that something like that would never happen again.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Very interesting👍🏻 I have actually never heard that one.

[@JaredtheRabbit]

@@RobTalksHockey I see.

[@Defy5]

Makarov was my faourite player growing up, the best winger in the 80s outside Canada for sure. I understand they changed the rule cause it's a bit of a stretch to call a 31-year guy with tons of experience a rookie, albeit he had never played in the NHL.

[@thebatman8895]

Yes, they added an age limit to qualify. I think the player has to be 26 or younger to still qualify as a rookie.

[@nathandelong7069]

Didn’t Artemi Panarin win it a few years ago although he had already been playing in a pro league for a few years before he joined the NHL?

[@jererauhala7647]

What about Joni Pitkänen Hybrid icing rule change?

[@mikephalen3162]

What about the Rob Ray Rule?

[@cookieomnomnom1]

I mean fighting will come back when teams start protecting stars and rely on the fighters instead of focusing just on skill. There’s dips in fighting throughout all of hockey history, maybe not to this extent, but it still happens. Look at Pitt. They used to be really fast, but then decided they needed to protect Crosby and gained grit instead of speed and skill. It’ll change again in another 10 years as teams refocus on other parts of the game

[@asteroidbuckle]

As a new hockey fan, this video had a lot of interesting information and overall I enjoyed it. The drastic decrease in the number of fights over the years is not something I have noticed since I just started following hockey in the last couple years, so I wasn't watching in the days of fights every other game. That being said, I enjoy the speed and skill of the game and don't really see how prolific fights enhance the viewing experience. I understand that fighting can be a strategic move and am not against it; I just don't understand the laments I read in the comment sections of other hockey vids about how hockey just isn't hockey anymore because players aren't pummeling each other all the time. I suppose it just depends on how long one has been a fan: traditional vs. modern hockey? That being said, I think this channel should be renamed "Rob Talks Really Super Fast and with Terrible Sound Quality about Hockey." Otherwise, thanks for the information!

[@filelps1178]

I'm in the same boat as you. a good fight is a good fight! Buuuut i also like the speed of the game right now. Idk how i'd feel if there were ALWAYS interruptions

[@OneTeeGlory]

Fun fact, the Flyers road uniforms are technically illegal. The rulebook states that the Captain letters on jerseys must be of contrasting color to the jersey. As you may know, the Flyers’ C’s and A’s on their road jerseys are white, just like the jersey. The boarder is black, yes, but the actual letter is not a contrasting color to the jersey. Idk how they get away with it but they do lol.

[@mendelsonja]

I suppose it depends how you define the letter. Is the border the letter or is it the interior font color. I'm guessing that's how they got away with it.

[@OneTeeGlory]

jon mendelson The way it’s written suggests the letter as a whole

[@DeanerHD]

Great Video Rob! Keep the grind up! Never stops

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks my guy!

[@bm10626]

Here's one for you. Goalie Clint Benedict back in the 20s. Goalies werent allowed to drop to the ice to make a save. He would still do it but claimed he'd slip on the ice and fall, which negated the penalty. It happened so much and other goalies tried it out so the league allowed goalies to drop down to make a save And here's a franchise causing a rule change In the 50s the Montreal powerplay was so good they would quite often score multiple goals on one powerplay. Back then the penalized player had to be in the box for the full time of the penalty. I believe the breaking point was when J Beliveau got a hat trick on one powerplay the league then changed it. But yeah Beliveau, Harvey, Moore, and H & M Richard on one powerplay unit, yikes thats tough

[@kortenfree9960]

When I was like seven I always wondered why the goalies didn't push the net off on a break away 😂😂

[@enflaskpost]

I just watched another video of you after seeing it randomly in my recommended, and I have to say I really like the content so far, keep it up man, subscribed! :)

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude! Appreciate it👍🏻

[@ryukiT3]

What about Jean Beliveau?? I think that one is huge! Powerplay team can only score one goal.

[@bobber1165]

Great video, but I think you forgot one of the most important rule change, the Brodeur one that limited the goalie zone to play with the puck. I also think of the Alexandre Daigle one with the rookie contract

[@josephking4416]

I was at a Canucks game at the Pacific Coliseum in the early 90's and we were playing against Keenan's loaded line up backed by Eddie Balfour. Anyways during the game a player by the name of Trent Yawney got hammered and caused him to choke on his false teeth. While he laid there choking the entire arena was dead quiet and full to capacity you could even hear anyone clearing their throat it was that quiet. Yawney did survive the ordeal but forced the NHL to introduce a no bridges or false teeth rule because of it. All pictures you see of players with missing teeth was because of what happened right here in Vancouver.

[@brucevrodoor4781]

Interesting vid, good job, though things can only decrease by up to 100% but the point still stands that the 08/09 season had 210% more fighting than 18/19 season.

[@stevesuddeth5183]

That makes more sense now

[@dodee9952]

The biggest rule change for me personally being a goalie is allowing goalies to go down to block shots instead of having to stand up

[@fishrocker95]

that was never a rule it was limited to the equipment they had at the time. the goalies of yore had much different padding than they do today. dropping to butterfly in regular shoulder pads wasn’t practical

[@dink306]

Good old praying Benny rule- yes at one time it was illegal for a goalie to drop to his knees to stop a puck.

[@fourdoorsmoresmores]

9:59 That man's point totals are going to go through the roof for the end of the season just watch. He has a new linemate from the import draft that is amazing that just committed to the team in late december

[@Nebocsid]

This is the first I heard of Leggio, and I laughed so hard. Also look at Kovalchuk's New Jersey contract. Wasn't that double digit years as well?

[@blueredlover1060]

Kovalchuk was originally to be signed to a 16 year, $102 million ($6 m per year) contract. It was eventually changed to 15 years, $100 million ($6.666666m per year), because Devils. Either way, the NHL took offense to that. Many players were getting similarly long and unplayable deals, such as Zach Parise who was signed to a 13 year deal by the Wild.

[@kromagva9653]

If I’m not mistaken John Scott was traded and sent down to the AHL by the league in general to prevent Scott from playing as they saw it as embarrassing. The rule change came to prevent people from actually picking a “fan favorite” in the future. I may be wrong but I remember reading something like that

[@jimmybtw9615]

hey rob i love your content keep it up!

[@puckstopper25]

Avery could and definitely should have been called for unsportsmanlike conduct, it was just so unexpected and unique that how do you call it? No contact, no words, just a subjectively unsportsmanlike thing to do. Which was really Avery's whole career.

[@claytonthomas9262]

Not necessarily a rule change but after Crosby severed Methot's finger with a slash, the slash is called way more often now.

[@DownsyMB]

great vid. The John Scott situation was proven to be put on by the league. League representatives had called him to ask him to step out of the all star game and when he said no the trade was made to bury him.

[@flowmastaflam]

Did anyone just see Jamie Benn life the net to poke check? HAHAHA, I love all the goofy stuff that happens in weird situations.

[@DeviousOne0]

My guy Marchand trolling people since day 1 :)

[@chrisslater3590]

Rob you should do your top 10 rivalries current or all time videos. I’m curious what’s yours

[@yeetsmith1105]

oh man im watching this 9 months later and feeling grateful for the increased audio quality since this video lmao. still, good content

[@matthewmacpherson4963]

Awesome video. New sub

[@allieryan3271]

3:05 pleky and his turtle neck 🤣

[@CB-lh4ph]

I like the coaches challenges. in fact I think until more things are automatic, such as detecting when a puck hits the mesh, more things should be challengable. It would also be nice if there were some way to change penalty calls because there really are some bad ones that cant be changed, but I know that would cause a whole metric crap ton of headache and controversy

[@kolodge1994]

Good work!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thank you!

[@ZaneZephyr]

The one thing people always leave out about the Avery rule is that you’re also not allowed to even turn around and face the goalie if you’re standing in front of them. I remember watching hornqvist get called for that before

[@HearKittyTor]

Of course. You already got my Sean Avery rule suggestion. :D

[@gillianm4815]

Luango single handedly took them to the play offs!?! As a Canuck fan I have always hated when people say this. He did not do anything single handedly. He had a whole team of amazing players who helped get the Canucks to the play offs. Such as the Sedins. Who were two of the greatest, if not the greatest, hockey players of all time.

[@kanegarvey3188]

I agree with everything except calling the Sedins the greatest hockey players of all time is fucking crazy.

[@zeked4200]

The Sedins aren't even close to being in the top players in NHL history. Calm down there ya crazy Canucks fan LOL. They might be top 10 of their era...but even that's debatable. Both are great players, and both are borderline HOFers...but they were never the best players in the league.

[@alecmorariu6291]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@mephenstessina6081]

What u said about the sedin twins is really really really really incorrect

[@conservativecatholic9030]

No mention of Hull’s foot in the crease?

[@MinnesotaArcticBlast]

I feel for the offside rules is a few things , one make the Bluelines An inch thinner or just remove them like they did the red line, BRET Hull in the crease goal .

[@honesttruth986]

7:24 I'm not a rules expert but based off what you said in your vid didn't the Wild signing Parise and Suter to identical dual $98 Million, 13 year contracts (AAV 7.5 Million a piece) in 2012 (after the Luongo rule was supposedly made) break this rule?

[@RobTalksHockey]

The new salary rules were not implemented by then. There was actually a series of events, Luongo, Kolvalchuk, Parise & Suter. And Luongo’s has just been known as the the one that started it, and we are seeing the most repercussions today

[@95VideoMan]

coolest video so far!

[@patrickracer43]

Man was like "nah, they ain't scoring"

[@963hz]

Omg the goalie net thing is freaking hysterical. And he made the penalty shot save!

[@stormcloudfilms]

Love these vids

[@stormcloudfilms]

It’s so good rewatching them never gets boring

[@goff38]

what about timo meier with the reviewable hand pass rule

[@FizzyFanta]

3:16 or micrometers and semantics if you’re gabe landeskog getting off the ice

[@angrytwxgaming8423]

That call was bullshit to the max

[@toddcribbs12]

I know about that rule with Roberto Luongo after that the Tampa Bay Lightning had Vincent lecavalier signed to a long-term contract like that because he was the star of the franchise but they had to trade him

[@christiandavidson1425]

If you are worried that one single play can affect your playoff standing, what about the other games during the season that matter just as much. Bounces and calls go both ways. I think that if it is a blatant offside (and missed) like the Matt Duchene one, the coaches challenge makes sense. A skate that is 1 mm offside is getting too far into the weeds, IMO.

[@carsonwilliams2689]

I’ve met John Scott and he let me put on his jersey the man is 6’8 he’s really nice

[@christosbaloukas6567]

Good video👍

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@tj_6]

I totally agree w you on the concussion not related to fights but we still have our tough guys they’re just more skilled n realize time n place for fights. Every 8 games I can deal w you don’t want to waste cap space or roster spot on someone who’s just there to fight. Look at Reves for example. Tough guy, hard on the forecheck, always in front of the net and can make plays. Same goes for Wilson. I want fighting to stay in the game but the fighters have to be able to do other little stuff to stay in the game.

[@jewels3846]

Yeah. And even if not concussed, a player punches wrong or takes a hit wrong can hinder their ability to play. I do believe a part of avoiding fights is trying to not be put into an early retirement or medically benched situation. Hard to shoot a puck with a sprained wrist or you twist something in the middle of a fight. If i had the skill and the balls to play in the NHL i would avoid fights just to make sure I can stay on the ice.

[@martinavig4915]

Good video!

[@ChloePrice4Ever]

Parise and Suter are actually the reasons why the contract rule was changed, since the 2 most recent players to the CBA deal to sign long term were Parise and Suter

[@mississaugaicedogs]

The Luongo rule was a further tweak of the 'Kovalchuk' rule

[@SappyCrapFor100]

The goalie trapezoid rule, not by a single player but was made because of two goalies, marty turco and martin brodeur. They were so prolific at playing the puck the rule had to be added cause teams werent actually able to dump and chase against the dallas stars and new jersey devils. Those two were looked at as having a third defense man when dumping the puck. Plus a 10 rules just sounds better than 9.

[@jlo2o199]

you had me at "licking" !

[@salvat0re12]

Isn't the "missed" Duchene call okay because the Predators were the last ones to have possession when the puck was sent back into their Defensive Zone? Duchene was not the one to move the puck over the blue line, therefore he is not offside.

[@drgnslayers]

no, Duchene did receive a pass from a teammate (#13). therefore, it was offside. here's a video of said play: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGjTf2hsi7-CnK8

[@FBCGodfather]

"Luongo signs a 12 year $65 million contract" *As the graphic is up saying $64 million.* Little mistake but glaring

[@jackr3630]

What about with Tyler bozak? I remember when he was in Toronto and would use his hand to win faceoffs in his zone. Now that rule isn’t allowed, and an Ottawa player got called on it the other night.

[@TheBlazersfan22]

Wasnt there one for being in the goalie crease . it was like hasek rule change or turco . where the guys foot was in the paint and they allowed the goal which caused the team to lose the stanley cup

[@alecedgeworth2814]

The Canucks are also fighting against that recapture penalty currently since Lou is working for the panthers now

[@AustinPadalec2002]

10:15 wouldnt this be just a delay of game?

[@drgnslayers]

What about Roger Neilson asking his players to get a penalty for too many men on the ice every 10 seconds just to relieve pressure on the defencemen? He was also the genius who saw that there was no rule prohibiting replacing the goalie for a defenceman to face a penalty shot or for a goalie to leave its stick in the crease when returning to the bench to be replaced by a player. He's even the first coach to pull out its goalie to replace him by another player. Waving towels is also his idea, which he did during 3rd period of Game 2 of the 1982 Clarence Campbell finals playoff

[@ryantjanzen]

"every single second game" ..........

[@afhostie]

50% of the time, it works every time

[@isaacwest276]

David Leggio becomr one of my favourite goalies ever when I first saw that video

[@amccfischer]

I think a larger contributor to the contract changes was probably Ilya Kovalchuk/NJ Devils contract of 17 years, where for the last 5 years of the contract Kovalchuk would get 550,000 per year. That contract was denied by the NHL. BUT Kovalchuk still signed a 15 year contract, and he left only a few years into that contract. Big fail.

[@jtotheroc]

The legend Wes "I lost my mic" McCauley.

[@emt5330]

Oh, there it is..

[@dholowaty19]

Do one on Roger Nielson coaching back in the day lol NHL hated him haha

[@Hells10Bells]

So sad fight is part of the game and its entertaining

[@samuaghahag]

3:07 whatcha looking at, Byron/Plekanec im not sure

[@lbeast2855]

Isn’t that plekanec? Byron is #41

[@samuaghahag]

@@lbeast2855 Might be im not sure.

[@samuaghahag]

@@lbeast2855 but he is the alternate captain

[@lbeast2855]

HerraTomaatti plekanec was alternate captain in 2014-15

[@samuaghahag]

@@lbeast2855 oh. I didnt know that.

[@wt8213]

Coming from an Oilers fan Its pretty mind blowing how many first round picks the Oilers have had and there still god awful. The only really amazing first round pick was Mcdavid which by some miracle they got.

[@mendelsonja]

Um, I strongly disagree with that unless you mean the only really amazing first overall pick. Draisaitl was picked in the first round and he's been a very good pick, I'm sure there are others but I don't have a deep knowledge of the Oilers' picks off the top of my head.

[@Xomissvinny]

In the games I’ve gone to I haven’t seen any fights 😭

[@pickleme]

John Scott played very well in the All-Star game

[@joeyfreitas1942]

Giroux was offside by a mile a year earlier in the 2012 playoffs as well and scored.

[@bootlegga69]

How could you miss the Gretzky rule, that eliminated four on four hockey during the 1980s?

[@tmacthewinner99]

That Marchand licking incident wasn't even the first one of those playoffs. He licked Komarov in the first round. It wasn't until he did it a second time that the league told him to stop, and the Bruins organization said they would handle it internally (lot of good that does)

[@mikequeeno9103]

How was the Rob Ray rule left out

[@PatrickBulger23]

Coaches challenge happens way too much now a days

[@007Hutchings]

The licking one is just a bit messed up lol

[@jcklevods1362]

for the Leggio one, does he mean the COACH gets to pick whoever to take the penalty shot or is it actually the captain? Cuz that seems odd?

[@wschmrdr]

The captain is who reports to the referee. Coach could tell the captain who to pick, but it is up to the captain to deliver the news.

[@jcklevods1362]

@@wschmrdr yes

[@edcaskinett8541]

I would like an explanation as to why the Rob Ray rule was not included

[@gabrielapastori3098]

goalie leaves the net for the 6th man and leaves his stick in front of the net.. and the rob ray jersey tie down.. my 2 favorites.

[@Ruthless88]

i used to go to fights and a hockey game would break out

[@ShinFTW33]

Really surprised I didn’t see the trapezoid and Brodeur. He was literally to good at playing the puck, you couldn’t dump it in. Hextall and Price are other examples.

[@117shortstuffs]

The Rob Ray rule regarding jerseys not being allowed to be removed during fights, hence the tie downs

[@L1V2P9]

Tell me Rob, why don't we just take the puck away and let them club each other with sticks? That would make your day.

[@manjitparmar1402]

At 0:32 the sharks player was wearing different shorts

[@spartan2693]

Rob you said the lottery change was introduced in 2016, the article shown on screen said 2014...

[@davidfrischknecht8261]

I was expecting to see the Brodeur rule in this video.

[@jewellmontana7711]

I think the decrease in fighting is kind of a bummer. The game more than just fighting, but it’s apart of the code. Don’t mess with the top boys, unless you want to get rocked. I see a decent amount of fights in my time rooting for the Avalanche, but it’s nothing like it once was. I totally understand the game is more about the talent of these guys, and the skills they have, but fighting is apart of a deep history, and I don’t understand why people want to remove it from the game entirely. It gets the crowd back in the game and changes the energy when your team is down, and there’s a good match up on the ice. That’s just my two cents. ☺️

[@SombraPiloto]

I'd hazard to say that it was actually the linesman on the Duchesne play that forced the change...

[@a.nonnymouse7655]

0:01 why does the dude on dallas look like kixstar

[@andrewwoehl7222]

Vegas got what they deserved. They actually got off lucky that Statsny didn't get ejected. There is a huge difference between a bump and throwing an off balanced player, face first, into the ice. I like the rule change, but in reality, VGK should've gotten a 2 minute penalty for Eakin's cross check and a 5 minute major for Statsny targeting an injured area, when the two double teamed on Joe.

[@isaacwest276]

Peter Chiarrelli is such a good GM he forced the league to greatly changed the draft lottery odds

[@forgottenfamily]

While Roberto Luongo was definitely one of the contracts, it would be incorrect to say he was the only contract that triggered the rule change. The first big one they objected to was Ilya Kovalchuk though also on the list were players like Mikka Kipprusoff, Chris Pronger and Sidney Crosby. Luongo's, however, had the most obvious implications due to the fun trade times.

[@thebatman8895]

Sidney Crosby did not have one of the "illegal" style contracts. Perhaps you are thinking of Marian Hossa, who signed with the Blackhawks immediately after his season with the Penguins and he signed to one of the back-diving contracts.

[@forgottenfamily]

@@thebatman8895 Sidney Crosby's third contract, signed just before the 2012 lockout and activating 2013-2014: 12/12/12/10.9/10.9/10/9/9.6/9/3/3/3 - 12 years,, AAV 8.7, finishes when he's 38. It's not as extreme as some other examples but it's long and back diving.