9NEWS interviews John and Patsy Ramsey

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[@rochellehibler1044]

Jon benet would be 33 years old today. Rest in eternal peace.

[@JCX-9]

She is exactly my sons age. Beautiful child came to this world to be abused by these monsters 😢.

[@nevadatan7323]

At least Patsy and JonBenet are reunited now. A bittersweet but, in.a way, comforting thought ❤

[@Moluccan56]

@@nevadatan7323not really. To be reunited with your killer?

[@vicksta8875]

​@@Moluccan56 I don't think Patsy was having sexual relations with Jonbenet, before she was murdered, do you??? JB's Vagina was "Twice the size" of a normal 6yr old little girls... Her Hymen was ERODED( Meaning, broken and healed, with vaginal congestion= on going penetration). So, was Patsy a dude?? Strapped on a dildo??? Just curious what youre thinking?🤷‍♀️

[@franceskajacobs2766]

The grand jury voted to indict the Ramsay's. Get it correct Alex hunter didn't sign the true bill he's horrific

[@colorado.alleyoop]

The dry eyes, no mourning emotions whatsoever and slight smiles during questioning..... defensive answers and remarks. I think they both had something to do with her murder. To me even the detective Linda Arndt sounded suspicious during her interview. I question how much money was paid to keep mouths shut so no one would find out who unalived that little girl.

[@idkbro_tf]

This case never made sense to me. Why would an "intruder" write such a long ass note about kidnapping their daughter but then just leaving her dead in the house for them to find?

[@bethryan9077]

There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for quick Available cash & with others, that plan turned into a crime about revenge against John. This highly insidious set up was to implicate all Ramseys plus others around them, for good measure. The research began quite some before & that included - the Ramsey’s whole family, friends, associates & neighbours of course & then the study about well known violent movies about kidnapping plots & so the 5 movie quotes within the note. They were also in tune with previous famous kidnapping cases & famous sadistic murders. This Plan, JB was Never going to be taken from the basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called. They sure didn’t go to soo much trouble & take such high risks for nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. From footage of the front of the house, it looks like a double storey Tudor style home. From the Ramsey’s extensive renovations, that was a Huge 3 storey mansion - plus the basement that had multiple rooms & heating, many big cupboards, water, a bathroom, a phone & 2 separate window exit points if needed. The butler’s kitchen was another level again, stairs either end to go down there but ground level, with the glass exit door. This section was situated along the side part of the house that was isolated & ran down the side of the garage. Unlike the other 3 sections that were basically all windows & glass doors, all 3 storeys. The cement rendered room where JB was found, used to be a coal bin as the house before renovations down the years, was from the 1920s. Basically that ‘cellar’ room was under the sunroom, front left corner if standing looking at the front of the house. That cellar was used for storage & along with some other things, the Xmas trees were kept in there. That was the only room in that whole house that Didn’t have a Window. Due to changes over the years & then the Ramsey’s renovations, as there was no window, that room wasn’t visible from the outside. To get to that room, one went down the basement to the bottom of the stairs & straight down the hall where the door to that room was Clearly visible, as seen in the cops’ walk-thru videos. The stories about that as a hidden room are Not true. The stories about that room being known only to the family are Not true. Soo much BS still going around about this case, for 26 years & counting. Being from back in the day, the light switch for that room was situated at an odd place, one had to step inside, take x many steps to the left & the light switch fixture was hanging from a cord on the other side of the beam, about halfway into the room. There was a doorknob on that door but no lock. To Pull the door open, one had to firstly reach up to the top & flip the wooden latch up then pull on the doorknob. The basement was painted about 1 year prior. The palm print on the inside of that cellar door was never identified. There were many items of evidence in that room besides the Hi-Tec Shoeprint, that was Not a boot. There was also another different partial shoeprint on the other side. The perps were listening to Patsy call 911 on another phone. The laundry room was situated at the stair end of the basement, with the big washing machine plus the big clothes dryer. A black phone was on the end of the bench near the doorway opposite the washing machine. The perps put that black & white photo of when Patsy won Miss West Virginia, stuck to the wall above that phone. A second washer & dryer were upstairs near JB’s room then an ironing/work room with a sink. The boiler room in the basement had the window with the bars on it, front of the house. The rest of the wall to the right, most of the cellar was on the other side. There was a pipe vent that went out the top of the boiler room window. The short shrill scream from JB was heard by a neighbour at about 1.30 a.m., because she lived directly across the road & had her bedroom window open a bit. The scream was from JB when first taken to the boiler room, as the cord was quickly released from her neck. A test was carried out & it was proven that no scream could be heard upstairs from the basement. The perps went out of the house for a while because of that scream then went back in. From the very top of the steep hill at the end of the street, one could see the whole area. These 2 vicious perps had 2 cohorts as look-outs. The parent’s bedroom suite was the whole of the top storey. Burke’s room was at the front & basically under their bed. JB’s bedroom was 70 metres down from Burkes, through the playroom first & a couple of turns. The spiral staircase was across from but just near JB’s bedroom. That back spiral staircase went down to the main living areas & the quickest route to the kitchen. The basement door was on that level & the entry to get there was near that staircase but up a hall that was separate to those living areas. The main staircase was near the front door. The slot for the mail was to the side of that door with a box to catch it underneath. The Ramseys would enter & exit the house through the garage & the mudroom was near that internal door. Visitors would use the front door or the back patio door that Patsy called the kitchen door. That door was 2 glass doors actually, as seen in photos, the door near that grate. The window for the alcove was next to that door, the alcove where the wall phone was situated that Patsy used to call 911. That wall phone had a good length cord & the cradle for the handset was metal. The note was moved to & spread out on the floor just by that alcove doorway, John was on his knees by the door reading it over & over. When the operator asked Patsy who sent it (lol), Patsy leant out the doorway a bit & could See the Big writing at the bottom of the 3rd page. Because it was Last as a signage, the S.B.T.C caught her attention First, then she saw the word Victory. They were up so early that morning when still Dark, because they were to go to their holiday house in Charlevoix, on their private plane & so, the pilot had that plane ready. JB was found after 1 p.m. & John was told they had to leave as the house was then a Crime Scene. In Front of a cop, John called his pilot wanting to get to some sort of Safety & to Family in Atlanta, two perfectly Normal things to want to do. That cop relayed what he heard to the PD & John was told they couldn’t leave so they stayed with friends in Boulder with police around them 24/7. Those various police officers were around the family & visitors for a week & officially stated that the Ramseys were deeply grieving parents & there was nothing adverse to report.

[@micenabled9418]

It doesn’t make sense because it’s lies

[@KingUsyk]

​​@@jenn3589bethryan is a bot account, don't even bother engaging it

[@fayejordan175]

@idkbro_tf Do you really think all murderers are smart?

[@anjpoteat]

To stall for time

[@mandy7131]

After all this time That baby girl needs justice

[@debraharrison-hl9cz]

mandy JonBenet will get justice. With DNA technology advancing all the time it is only a matter of time before this murderer will face justice.

[@rigelb9025]

@@debraharrison-hl9cz It's only a matter of A LOT of time, apparently. And maybe also a matter of the media being truthful in their inquiries.

[@melissalee2166]

The fact that they ignored the ransom note instructions is a huge red flag.

[@fayejordan175]

It’s my understanding that they got the money to get ready for it.

[@hallsjuju2400]

Maybe it was Clint Eastwood, Danny Divito and Mel Gibson. Since they mentioned the movies.

[@bethryan9077]

Patsy only read to about - 'we have your daughter' & raced upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone & he told her to call the police. She was on the wall phone near the kitchen & the bottom of the spiral stairs & John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then.

[@berniekoblinsky103]

Beth Ryan knows nothing but what Lou Smit thinks. He’s not much of a detective Phatsy’s guilty as hell.

[@fayejordan175]

@@berniekoblinsky103 All the Ramseys were cleared by officials who knew the facts of the case. Patsy Ramsey had nothing to do with this murder.

[@merylstewart5418]

The Grand Jury voted to indict the Ramsays … the DA shut that down!

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. *Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.* The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. *NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. **The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@EllieLenn-dh6el]

@@bethryan9077take a break Beth

[@bethryan9077]

@@EllieLenn-dh6el Take a hike Ellie

[@bethryan9077]

The whole World knows that the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago but the full of the same old False information shitshows keep coming like from the beginning, for the Entertainment of all you Highly ignorant Ramsey bashers, to get off on. Hatred makes Money, that's why the tabloid magazines still proliferate in your country, a nation of Haters. The ever deceitful keystone cops fed the grand jury members the same false information that they had been 'leaking' to the media & deliberately Hid the evidence of intruders. One needs to remember/Know that Steve Thomas had already illegally taken evidence material from the office for his book of BS so he alone did Not want anything True known to the public when there was Money to be made from the very high profile crime. The BPD from back then plus others in positions of power from that time are still dining out on their pay packets & retirement packages. I will wager that the information that the also media soaked grand jury members were given will Never be released. *Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All. Those ‘members’ of the public sat down 2 days a week for over 12 months at a great cost to the tax payer, they had to come up with ‘something’. Yawn. BTW - all those Idiots watched, read & listened to the Exact same False & very Salacious information via the Media, for a Very long time Prior, that all You dolts have been brainwashed with back then &/or Since. FYI - the special prosecutor by the name of Michael Kane who led them down that yellow brick road each & every day, came to his Senses & did Eventually state Publicly, that there was No evidence to charge the Ramseys with a damn thing.* And FYI deary, the Ramseys were Prevented from testifying before the grand jury & were so upset about that, a letter was sent off to the Governor, who didn't even bother to reply. The highly Incompetent Boulder cops couldn't have Anyone telling the truth about their Failings that morning & since. John & Patsy were Very well educated & very confident people who grew indignant very quickly & they would have had no problems setting the record Straight about a whole lot of the Cop's issues & then, it was Their House that the intruders broke into but hey, keep drinking the Kool Aid. It is always very Telling about how Cunning you Ramsey bashers truly Are, because whenever you state Anything about the grand jury, you All fail to mention that the vote was Not for murder. Yawn. BTW - do you actually know what Year it is today? LMAO. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or a myriad of other expert homicide investigators OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. FYI - all Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago & finally Officially exonerated in 2008 due to all the evidence known at that time, over 200 pieces of, that Showed someone Was in that house. Plus the DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. And FYI - the investigation continued with Seasoned actual homicide investigators who had full Integrity & who worked tirelessly Unpaid, because Their sole purpose was to find a highly sadistic child killer. None wrote a book trying to line their own pockets. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have the same Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day. Listen up with Both ears, the Ramseys were Never indicted.

[@bethryan9077]

The ever deceitful keystone cops fed the grand jury members the same false information that they had been 'leaking' to the media & deliberately Hid the evidence of intruders. One needs to remember that Steve Thomas had already illegally taken evidence material from the office for his book of BS so he alone did Not want anything True known to the public when there was Money to be made from the very high profile crime. The BPD from back then plus others in positions of power from that time are still dining out on their pay packets & retirement packages. I will wager that the information that the also media soaked grand jury members were given will Never be released. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All. Those ‘members’ of the public sat down 2 days a week for over 12 months at a great cost to the tax payer, they had to come up with ‘something’. Yawn. BTW - all those Idiots watched, read & listened to the Exact same False & very Salacious information via the Media, for a Very long time Prior, that all You dolts have been brainwashed with back then &/or Since. FYI - the special prosecutor by the name of Michael Kane who led them down that yellow brick road each & every day, came to his Senses & did Eventually state Publicly, that there was No evidence to charge the Ramseys with a damn thing. And FYI deary, the Ramseys were Prevented from testifying before the grand jury & were so upset about that, a letter was sent off to the Governor, who didn't even bother to reply. The highly Incompetent Boulder cops couldn't have Anyone telling the truth about their Failings that morning & since. John & Patsy were Very well educated & very confident people who grew indignant very quickly & they would have had no problems setting the record Straight about a whole lot of the Cop's issues & then, it was Their House that the intruders broke into but hey, keep drinking the Kool Aid. It is always very Telling about how Cunning you Ramsey bashers truly Are, because whenever you state Anything about the grand jury, you All fail to mention that the vote was Not for murder. Yawn. BTW - do you actually know what Year it is today? LMAO. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or a myriad of other expert homicide investigators OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. FYI - all Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago & finally Officially exonerated in 2008 due to all the evidence known at that time, over 200 pieces of, that Showed someone Was in that house. And the investigation continued with Seasoned actual homicide investigators who had full Integrity & who worked tirelessly Unpaid, because Their sole purpose was to find a highly sadistic child killer. None wrote a book trying to line their own pockets & the general public are unaware of the actual Case Evidence. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have the same Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

The moment I knew the parents were involved was when they took off the next day to Atlanta and refused to cooperate with the Boulder police right from the initial on-set..Once in Atlanta they immediately got a defense attorney.. If a child is murdered you want to be up and around 24/7 and frantically updated every passing second.. *The wicked flee when no one is pursuing*

[@bethryan9077]

They did Not flee to Atlanta the next day. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still.

[@antonchigurh7227]

even Oj Simpson is saying 'Come on now' check out how John Ramsey handles the Ransome money.. And how the sentence structure and grammar in the hand written Ransome note was identical to how Patsey articulated herself in previous letters she wrote back then

[@antonchigurh7227]

@@bethryan9077 And by the way those samples from Patsy and the 73 others were not identified with the person who wrote them so they wouldn't bias the hand writing experts who did visual forensics on them .. Everyone who looked at them picked out the same letter and copy without even knowing who wrote them. The odds of that happening are astronomical.

[@antonchigurh7227]

@@bethryan9077 give it up dude they are as guilty as sin , when FBI hand writing analysis (F.B.I. VETERAN GREGG MCCRARY.) said of the 74 people who gave samples and said Patsy’s handwriting was the only one that set off alarm bells,” that's when i knew they were guilty as sin "Quote" ' “There are strong indications that the author of the ransom note is Patricia Ramsey. Hand writing is similar to DNA samples ~ everyone has distinctive features and characteristics.The odds of that happening and coincidence are 1 in 5 million.And the odds of someone knowing exactly what John Ramsey's Christmas bonus was in in the 10 of millions.

[@bethryan9077]

@@antonchigurh7227 The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. You're just Another who spouts BS put out by Loads of those who said Whatever to seek their version of fame & make Money from this high profile crime & it continues because this case hasn't been to trial yet & You, like thousands of others, know Nothing of the Actual evidence that had them all Proven Innocent such a long time ago. That evidence included DNA from unknown male. That DNA has been in the FBI's database since 2003. That DNA not only Cleared all Ramseys but lots of others including known pedos. That DNA continues to clear lots of people to this day. Who would write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did that. FYI - that was John's bonus for '95 & paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The 2 who got in their house the evening of the 25th, had broken in before & that's why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. Glenn Meyer took the notepad at their Xmas party on the 23rd, simple as that. Meyer had many cards, letters & notes that Patsy had given the Barnhills for many years. He only had to copy Some letters like Patsys into the note. The Real experts looked at Many aspects within that note Besides the writing.

[@raulalvarado5873]

And who writes a 3 page note at your house during a kidnapping using your own note pad??

[@teddyjam8134]

No one that I know of. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[@ImAGoldenGod-yx6by]

Wasn't it 6 pages (i may be wrong though)

[@raulalvarado5873]

I just looked online. Says 2.5 half, but I felt like it was longer too.

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

I'll answer that - No one (especially on Christmas Eve/Morning) where the kids may get up early all excited and possibly waiting for Santa Claus to spy on. And even criminals don't work on Christmas Eve. And the killer was have said to enter the basement window - the same window that had a large unbroken spider web across it. Guess what no spider can web a web in 4 hours considering spiders are dormant near cold places in a winter climate. Those ramsy's are as guilty as sin

[@teddyjam8134]

@@AlwaysHalloween000 It wasn't Christmas morning that this happened. It was early morning on the day after Christmas, but I agree that no intruder would stay in a house and write a ransom note using the Ramsey's notepad. Most people who use logic and common sense know the Ramsey's were responsible for what happened to Jonbenet.

[@brianlion1957]

How did the intruder go unnoticed sitting in his car waiting for the Ramseys to leave? How did he know they would leave that day? How did he go unnoticed walking to the house? How did the intruder know the mansion security system would not be on? How did the intruder not leave footprints, or debris, or any signs of entry? Why did the intruder feed her pineapple before he brutalized her? Why did the intruder forget to bring the ransom note, pen, and garrotte? Why would the intruder place her in her favorite blanket after brutally killing her? How did the intruder know the layout of the house? Why would the intruder use a suitcase to go out the window, when there is clearly a red, sturdy chair right there? How did the intruder not remove the leaves and debris from the corner of the basement window? How could a neighbor hear a loud terrible scream at the house, and noone else heard it? Why did the intruder write a ransom note and not take the kidnap victim? How did the intruder escape unnoticed after the deed?

[@dannabyrd2384]

Very good questions.

[@katieejeann2139]

Exactly!!!

[@kahla8596]

Why was Patsy wearing the exact same clothes she wore to a party the night before? Makeup on, hair still done. Why did they not even notice when the 8-10am time frame for contact from the kidnapper came and went with no call?

[@amandanegrete1306]

The housekeeper and whoever she told would be able to answer the majority of those questions. The housekeeper is every bit as suspect as you find Patsy. You never know who she gave information to. She may have thought it was going to be a robbery and over time it evolved into something out of her control. IDK who killed JonBenet but I’m TRYING to give the parents the benefit of the doubt. I don’t know what their motive could have possibly been for a vicious, brutal sexual attack on their child. I know violent child predators do those heinous things, but neither John or Patsy is/was not a violent child predator. What could their MOTIVE have been? If they were “covering” for one of the three family members WHY brutally sexually torture her?

[@user-xz1ro5up2s]

Yeppers, pineapple that has been a point, killer knew she like that rummage house to know what amount to put in the Ransom letter, then a nieghbor said she heard a scream at a curtain time but they did not hear it so many factors. Poor baby justice for her? The truth will be a cold case.😢

[@nunu1diva]

Im telling you the most deadliest killers are their kind. Cold blooded cold hearted always laughing & smiling in real hard situations.

[@TheCoolOwen]

Patsy Ramsey looks and acts just like Hilary Clinton.

[@nunu1diva]

@@TheCoolOwen yes plenty of similarities.

[@malittlekitteh]

Oh? How do you know that? What did they have to gain by killing their daughter? Sure, it's possible they had a little girl and then decided to murder her just for kicks but keep her older brother for some reason. I doubt it, though. Doesn't make much sense. Makes a lot more sense that their son killed JonBenet and they decided to cover it up and stage it as an abduction. It makes sense that Burke might have been envious and resentful of JonBenet and all the attention she received. He could have killed his sister without even fully understanding what he'd done, as he was merely a little boy himself. If the parents found that Burk had killed his sister, it would make sense that they would protect him out of love and not wanting to lose both children, and/or to avoid public scrutiny and judgement as parents of a child who had killed his own sister. For me, that makes more sense than any other theory.

[@StephanieCarter-kx1zk]

Seriously you really believe burke did it? Why won't you consider human trafficking!?

[@sarah.j.777]

*Your* kind of family DomRep is always full of child predators.

[@joycekennedy5252]

They dont look sad....they look like their covering their tracks...

[@joycekennedy5252]

The father did it..the mother took it to her grave..

[@bethryan9077]

Obviously you have a Biased attitude about a case that you know Nothing about, for the Intelligent people within our societies, it is Obvious that they are Genuine.

[@KingUsyk]

​@@bethryan9077😂

[@michaelaandrews9767]

I do not see that at all. If they were covering their tracks, they wouldn't agree to be interviewed

[@bethryan9077]

@@michaelaandrews9767 Exactly, thank goodness for your voice of reason.

[@reallifelebowski4732]

My dad (R.I.P) was a retired Chicago Police Detective at the time this went down ~ 35 years on the job and 27 as a homicide detective and as a hobby meticulously and painstakingly followed every miniscule moment of this case. He to an unmitigated undisputed 100% certainty said the family was involved .And my dad wasn't dumb,he turned down a full scholarship at M.I.T when he was young and had an IQ of 149 because he wanted to follow his dad in becoming a Chicago Cop. My dad would always laugh and say on the premise of the perpetrator actually sitting in the the kitchen a floor below where the Ramseys slept and writing a detailed ransom note and knowing about John Ramseys bonus also the notion is beyond preposterous . That and about 1000 other things the Ramseys did is the playbook for being guilty.

[@bethryan9077]

In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of plus the DNA that had already Cleared them All & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all said 4 No Ramsey wrote the note. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search, all is known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. It is Way over time to leave the Proven Innocent family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

Your father saw No evidence & like soo many others, was obviously brainwashed with the BS. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? One with way less IQ should be able to understand That Didn't Happen. There Wasn't '1000 other things' so his 'playbook about the Ramsey's guilt' is Not True.

[@reallifelebowski4732]

@@bethryan9077 You lost Champ .. On the body language alone in the interview and the fact she sounded exactly like the ransom note when she talked that was an automatic giveaway. Then the 47 samples of the hand writing analysis conducted by the Colorado bureau of the FBI and Patsey's showed extremely strong similarities to a 77% certainty When none of the other samples showed not even 1% .. Hey dim wit not only did my father turn down a M.I.T scholarship to become a cop (finest engineering school in the World) he was a 25 year veteran detective in the most crime ridden city in the U.S .. And you are correct - there wasn't 1000 indicators of The Ramsey's guilt - more like 2000 .. The most hilarious part is how the fake perpetrator knew exactly how much John's bonus was right down to the last cent. And to think a lifetime moron like you thinks it was some ultra sophisticated hobo who walked into the house and escaped through a 3 by 6 window with absolutely no evidence to indicate anyone was ever outside that window to begin with..And all of the sudden the fake perpetrator is a pedophile on top of that.. Does it remotely resonate with you how mentally challenged you are? *You lose*

[@fayejordan175]

There’s no reason it couldn’t have been an intruder. The Ramseys had zero motive to kill their daughter. Their home was huge and unsecured. They were naive about crime thinking they lived in a safe area. The note does not seem to me to be something the Ramseys would write. They wouldn’t have written something so long. This was done by a deranged intruder.

[@antonchigurh7227]

@@fayejordan175 Actually there is an iron clad motive (unintended consequences) which is the theory most law enforcement agencies agree with (Including the FBI behaviour science experts) Patsey lived vicariously through her daughter and demanded perfection yet her daughter still continued to have a bed wetting problem. The fatal skull injury she died from was caused by a blow from Patsey and the strangulation came shortly after to cover for the fatal knock to the head.. The vagina injury's occurred when Patsey grabbed her daughter in frustration in the genitals as has been the case in many similar cases before that. There was never no sexual motive ..

[@jocelynmelchorb2553]

It’s painful to watch people lying with a straight face

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah John & Patsy come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty.

[@debraharrison-hl9cz]

Jocelyn Melchor B They are not lying darl so it shouldn't be at all painful to watch.

[@blackrainbow192]

They are not lying.

[@divinejudgement7855]

@@blackrainbow192 But they do! You just don't listen carefully.

[@divinejudgement7855]

@@debraharrison-hl9cz So, John says here that they were looking for glass because the window wasn't just open, but it was broken. And then, on the other occasion he admits that it's him who broke the window earlier because he locked himself out. He also claims that he was alone, but Burke says that he was with dad. Well, now I'm convinced.

[@rigelb9025]

@ 2:38 : ''She... uuuhhh... kept the place rockin'. It's.. it's a.. a huge vacuum in our family''. Is he talking about his daughter, or about his electric home appliance??

[@illusionisms]

If you listen to him speak on this he talks about his daughter as the death of the little girl. Neither one of them show any real affection for their baby girl. It was difficult to even tell that they were speaking about a child they loved and lost. They never refer to her with her name only the child or other references this is so hard to watch. These two are guilty to the bone. Shame on them. Surely they will face their judgement one day. And surely they shall face their truth. These are monsters under the guise of parent hood.

[@RG-si1qz]

Nonsense. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These people didn’t kill their child.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is Evidenced & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. ** BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, these never-ending ‘shows’ will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

💯 correct

[@michaelaandrews9767]

I totally disagree with this opinion. People made the same judgments about the McCanns. We don't see these people in private, and I believe Patsy when she says she's often in bed crying every day. Their focus is finding the killer of their daughter; they say it over and over. They are not indulging their own emotions in this interview, but that doesn't mean they don't have emotions. Also, shock manifests for different people in very different ways. There have been parents who have lied about killing their child who manage to sob all the way through an interview - means nothing

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, of Course. None of you have read ANY Case Evidence, you watch TV & pick out the bits that Suit Your Character. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for 26 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who suffered in silence & even More So due to the high number of Monstrous people in the public domain. What part of Exonerated do you Not understand? You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. Shame on You. It would be Very interesting to conduct a survey in the U.S., to find out the percentage of the Ramsey bashers who Do NOT Have - a Four storey 7,000 square foot Mansion - nor 2 private planes, a designer built yacht, a centrefold holiday house & money to Burn. Envy is a Sin you know.

[@microangels]

Just imagining myself if my daughter had been murdered and sexually assaulted…nothing the Ramseys say sounds like someone who just lost a child this way. I would be absolutely terrified, angry and distraught that a child killer is still out there. John seems remarkably placid and forgiving and Patsy is just defensive and hostile to anyone who questions her.

[@captainpandabear1422]

People react to grief differently. I keep seeing this "it's not how I'd have acted" shit and it really disappoints me. You don't know how you'd react under severe stress.

[@samanthaaa581]

@@captainpandabear1422 I’m sorry but I’ve lost loved ones and I was wayyyyyy more upset than this and they weren’t my children….. if it were my children, I downright wouldn’t be able to form sentences and they sure as hell wouldn’t be like the Ramsys, they would be slurred, due to actual trauma. Brain trauma is real and they do not seem to be under any sort of stress besides trying to get the stress off of themselves which is a red flag, again. Period. Trauma is trauma. It doesn’t go away quickly.

[@trickortrump3292]

@@captainpandabear1422While I agree with you 💯 that you don’t know how you’d react, it’s definitely possible to know how you wouldn’t react. People get more emotional over their dead cat, than these two are over their murdered daughter. So yes, people are able to gauge how unhinged they’d be if their 6 year old was sexually assaulted and murdered while they slept in another room, by comparing it to how they cried their brains out over granny’s death.

[@Harry351ify]

Depends on how long ago the incident happened. The parents would not be in this state of mind if it was immediately after the crime.

[@xymotic]

defensive and hostile

[@teiece7890]

It’s alarming how much they sound like politicians. They should have been.

[@briancantale2674]

Later on he tried to

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah, very well educated, very well put together, very well spoken, aren't afraid to speak up, obviously very intelligent & they happened to be very wealthy. Jealous Much?

[@susanlett9632]

​@@bethryan9077 most people aren't jealous of people who murder their own children at least im not.

[@petetownshend5297]

@@bethryan9077no, I think it’s cause they murdered their little girl. We don’t know them enough to be jealous lol

[@bethryan9077]

@@petetownshend5297 FYI - all Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago & finally Officially exonerated in 2008 due to all the evidence known at that time, over 200 pieces of, that Showed someone Was in that house. And the investigation continued with Seasoned actual homicide investigators who had full Integrity & who worked tirelessly Unpaid, because Their sole purpose was to find a highly sadistic child killer. None wrote a book trying to line their own pockets & the general public are unaware of the actual Case Evidence. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have the same Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.

[@chrisscott1731]

John went straight to the body after being cleary told to (start) on the opposite end of the house on the total opposite floor he was told to .

[@freddie3206]

CHRIS SCOTT, YES! HE WAS TOLD TO START FROM THE TOP OF THE HOUSE AND NOT TO TOUCH ANYTHING. HE BI-LINED RIGHT TO THE BASEMENT WHERE SHE WAS.

[@chrisscott1731]

Trunk Blue wreck tangle Blood stain cat face

[@chrisscott1731]

If the detective wouldn't have told him to do so this would never get solved.. That was his biggest mistake. The detective should be praised for hanging in there so long by herself in a situation like that.

[@DanielaSantos-bx9ew]

And she was covered with white blanket. What kidnapper does that to the victim? Maybe it was not the Ramsay's, but was a person very close to the Ramseys then. It just doesn't make any sense to me this is a cold case

[@chrisscott1731]

@@DanielaSantos-bx9ew Donald John TRUMP and Mike Tyson both are involved in her case . Fact

[@profesoralourdes7985]

Duper,s delight ! Mom and Dad!

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think You Know about this crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for the general public - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. At the very beginning, the media put out that JB was strangled to death & that was the Medical Examiner’s Report which was Correct. The blows to this child’s head were just After that. Who did the old switcheroo & for what reason? You have No idea what was going on behind the scenes with those lousy & ever deceitful Cops. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were In That House. One half of the public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The other half watched that Bogus CBS TV Show & believed it all & now it’s the Kid brother Burke who bonked his little sister on the head over a piece of pineapple. LOL. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts had their Own Ideas for Money. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that Bogus CBS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too. Soo many so-called ‘experts’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from - all those who are ignorant, hateful, gullible & then there’s all those who are not very bright.

[@bennytrots]

22:17 the Grand Jury DID in fact INDICT YOU, the DA refused to sign off on it, and then misled the public with a press conference about not enough evidence, just think, if this case did go to court, just think of how maybe some answers could of filtered out, pressure busts pipes, if the Ramsey's were going to get squeezed, there's a much better chance of them cracking under the scrutiny and pressure of the justice system than the alternative [them never having to answer for this in a court of law] and think about this, that wasn't made clear to the public for 15 years! It took a lawsuit to extract those Grand Jury indictments, and even then, the judge only released a portion of them!! So all of the details, and possible names mentioned are still concealed.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. *Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.* The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. *NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. **The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@michaelaandrews9767]

They indicted tham for possibly basing a child's life in danger; NOT for committing the crime itself. That is a very different thing.

[@bethryan9077]

A journo should be getting his ass into court so that all the BS that the ever deceitful cops put forth for that Farce was brought to the light. Then you would all know that the cops Hid the evidence of the intruders. BTW lovey, the Ramseys were never sent a subpoena so were Prevented from testifying. Funny that. They sent an email to the Governor to express that Injustice so he would Do something about it. He never even bothered to reply because, he too had already made a donkey of himself as did All those in authority around the Boulder municipality.

[@bennytrots]

@@michaelaandrews9767 i know that lol, the parents subjected her to the killer[s] and for 27 years have been protecting and concealing that killer[s] and going on tv shows and attending conventions acting as if they want to find the real killer, do you realize how disgraceful that is to their daughters legacy? it's pitiful, the mom passed away in 06, but the dad is now 80 still lying and covering for the man or men who did the crime

[@bethryan9077]

@@bennytrots I don’t see Anyone railing against all those who Make Up from their sick Heads, all the despicable garbage, which is them Accusing JonBenet Herself, of all the Vile incest & paedophile acts that they conjure up with Glee & post proudly. Of the Hundreds of such comments & Stories that I’ve read from such abhorrent so-called human beings, Nobody says a friggin Thing to them. What a National Disgrace. Hang on that’s right, Lots of Other so-called human beings Do say certain things to them, they Agree with them. And because they’re of the exact Same ILK, they’re Bolstered to post Their sick thought processes about the same Vile acts, incest & paedophilia, all about this Child, including 9 year old Burke sometimes & no-one rebukes them in Any way. There was never one Skerrick of evidence that JB was previously sexually abused Nor one Skerrick of evidence about Burke either. Yet the Ramseys & their Kids are very cruelly subjected to a round-robin of particularly grotesque accusations that include - child sacrifice, satanic worship scenarios, pedos at the garden parties, selling their child, their friends being Allowed to abuse their child, society members being Allowed to abuse their child including Of Course, Epstein & so on & so on - on it goes, Incessantly. According to the same so-called human beings, because the Ramseys were wealthy for a while, all of the above is what they did with their spare time. Nobody Ever mentions that the Ramseys had deep faith in God & were avid church goers. One can pop over to the many videos about the Chris Watt’s murder case for example. Let me know when you find Anyone who has posted Any comment about Him sexually abusing his little girls Or any other comment about a gang of his friends who did the same & worse. Of all the Hundreds of videos about same subject & victimology, Nobody talks about Any of Those kids as soo many do about This, highly intelligent 6 year old murdered little girl. Shame on you.

[@dirkk1974]

John admitted to reading the Ransom note in its entirety while sitting on his knees before the police arrived. The Ransom Note said that John should not even talk to a stray dog or his daughter would die. Shortly thereafter, John opened the front door to his friends and the minister, who had been called by Patsy, and invited them into the house. At no point did John ask: "Why are all these people in our house ? Our daughter's life is in danger because of them." John was not concerned about all the people in his house who should never have been there.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for the general public - you don't know about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - there is No 'intruder theory', It Is A Proven Fact. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down these threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too

[@bethryan9077]

Patsy only read to about - 'we have your daughter' & raced upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone & he told her to call the police. She was on the wall phone near the spiral staircase & the kitchen & John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy phoned the Whites & the Fernies - for Help. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a Long wait, the note said Tomorrow. BTW - the Cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. Officer French was the First person to arrive & he had John & Patsy sit in the sunroom while he did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived. Like soo many others, You know Nothing about this case. Best that you stick to your one hour made-up TV shows, that tell you the ending.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@berniekoblinsky103]

Once again Beth missed the point.

[@Oran_Lee]

@@berniekoblinsky103 completely.

[@if6turnedouttobe9]

The "intruder" will never be arrested...because there wasn't one...

[@rigelb9025]

It seems like it.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rigelb9025 Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. Of course you will have No Idea why I specifically stated ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, of Course. None of you have read ANY Case Evidence, you watch TV & pick out the bits that Suit Your Character. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for 26 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who suffered in silence & even More So due to the false information campaign from the Boulder PD & the high number of mouthing off Monsters within the public domain. What part of Exonerated do you Not understand? You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. . If the public knew Everything that the intruders, being the Vilest of sociopaths, Really did to this little 6 year old Child & just so you Know, all that they did to her went on for Hours, along with everything that they did in that house whilst her family were sleeping upstairs, You the public would - Freak the hell out. The Ramseys were finally officially Exonerated in 2008 & that Means that Law Enforcement proved that nobody from that household did a damn thing but you victim bashers get off on hating on them soo very much that the fooltube shows like the tabloid magazines from way back then, keep the false information shitshows coming because envy & hatred for your betters makes Money off, simpletons & peasants.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rigelb9025 Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before, Ever & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. And it’s Not the victim’s fault that y’all believe the Fake writing ‘samples’ as If Patsy did that & as If from the police files. Even Steve Thomas wasn’t Game to include that shit Or, didn’t think of doing that at the time. LOL. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/Is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You’re a Nobody, get that STRAIGHT. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah, for all you Victim abusers John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. * Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rigelb9025 From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case. The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key. The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic. The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online. What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen. This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement. The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours. There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all. The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour. And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues. And it's clear that You've got it.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rigelb9025 Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before, Ever & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. And it’s Not the victim’s fault that y’all believe the Fake writing ‘samples’ as If Patsy did that & as If from the police files. Even Steve Thomas wasn’t Game to include that shit Or, didn’t think of doing that at the time. LOL. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/Is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You’re a Nobody, get that STRAIGHT. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah, for all you Victim abusers John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. * Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.

[@rebeccawhaley2982]

Question: Why did you called your pilot for flight by Atlanta? . John stated we had nowhere to go. Atlanta is our home. To me that is BS. He has millions of dollars. He could have stayed in a hote to stay close by. A HUGE RED FLAG!

[@bethryan9077]

They were up so early that morning because they were to head to their holiday house in Charlevoix for a 2nd Xmas gift giving, picking up John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend on the way at the Minneapolis airport. So, their pilot already had their plane prepared. After JB was found, John was told they had to leave the house as it was a crime scene & in Front of a Cop, he called his pilot wanting to get to some sort of Safety & to Family in Atlanta, 2 perfectly Normal things to want to do. The cop relayed what he heard then John was told they couldn't go there so they stayed with friends in Boulder with police protection 24/7. The HUGE RED FLAG is about You, who doesn't even have the Brain Cells to realise that they had a Ransom Note for one child, who was then found Murdered in their Home in Boulder but, You think they should have just popped down to the local motel to twiddle their fn thumbs after All of That! Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 perps, has been in CODIS since 2003. One of them is hispanic, as of the results in 2016. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@Counthemoney777]

Why wouldn’t the foreign entity be able to to just go straight to your other home and continue the confusion!! How do you know if they are not there too.. they never mentioned a foreign faction ever again. Or how she was k illed.

[@MarieDeWitt-e8c]

Crime scene muddied by inviting tons of friends in to the home

[@bethryan9077]

After JB was found, John was told they had to leave as the house was then a crime scene. In front of a cop, he called his pilot, wanting to get to some sort of Safety & to family in Atlanta. Two perfectly Normal things to want to do. The cop relayed what he heard & John was told they couldn't go there so they stayed with friends in Boulder, with police protection 24/7. When highly Ignorant people like yourself have totally Biased attitudes along with a head full of False information, everything they said & did is a 'red flag' to you. Yawn.

[@emilydixon7534]

I've always heard it's because he had a meeting. They did it

[@SusieQ1971]

What makes it so easy to believe these people is how they look, how they behave, their intelligence, how well spoken they are, their wealth, and on and on. They can peddle the intruder theory and its extremely difficult for anyone to believe they are either capable of committing this crime let alone covering it up and keeping up with this charade for years and years. But unless you know all the facts of the case from start to finish you wouldn't catch all the subtle lies they are telling just in this interview alone. They are conveniently leaving out the countless examiners who believe Patsy wrote the note. John lied when he said they dont watch much movies. They had movie posters hung up in the house. The basement window entrance was ruled out due to the old cobwebs that weren't disturbed, etc. The things their friends and housekeeper testified to. And the grand jury heard both sides and still chose to indict based on thousands of pieces of evidence. The evidence pointed to them. You have to dismiss a lot of evidence and facts to believe the intruder theory. Boulder PD did do a thorough investigation and investigated countless leads and suspects but John Ramsey constantly lies about this and says they only focused on investigating him and his family. The ransom letter was proven over and over, especially by Cina Wong with her charts that Patsy wrote the R.N. Linguistic experts believe she wrote it as well as handwriting experts. If they had been separated the first day and interrogated, they would not have had time to rehearse their stories and get legal advice on what to say in interviews. Ask yourself if this was a lower class, less wealthy, less well spoken couple, would everyone be suspending their disbelief and disregarding all the evidence that the mother wrote the letter? I don’t think this was an intentional homicide, it was an accident. But these folks had the money to keep themselves out of prison.

[@trickortrump3292]

Excellent post. I agree with you on all points. I remember when I first really looked at the case, past just reading headlines, they’d already done a few interviews and it was watching the various interviews in one sitting that had me absolutely convinced Patsy was guilty and I was up in the air with John. If you just watch an interview here or there in isolation, you’re going to miss so many of the signs. I go down the rabbit hole every few years and here I am now! I’ve always been undecided on John but I’m seeing things this time that I haven’t noticed before and now I’m leaning more towards him being involved in the cover up. They can say over and over in their interviews that they’re not trying to convince anybody of their innocence, they’re just trying to find their daughter’s killer. But they are SO coached in the interviews. “We’ve been told….we’ve been told…..we’ve been told….it’s my understanding that…..experts have told us….” Or how about “I’ve not heard the 911 call but…” and “we’ve not read the autopsy report but….” but then they whip out a piece of paper and list off how many hours they spoke to police for each day? Priorities! I don’t trust any of the claims they make about their bought and paid for “experts” and how tf do we know if the experts even said the things the Ramseys say they said? How do we know that anyone ever told Patsy her handwriting was a 4.5? And on Larry King, John looks like he’s lying big time when Larry asks him if the guy he hired to do their polygraphs was going to release the results pass or fail. John says that was the agreement but it’s one of those moments where his demeanour dramatically changes. When you watch the various interviews they gave, it’s much easier to pick up on stuff like that. And when John says he wants the death penalty for the killer, it’s the only time you see Patsy having a sudden wave of emotion wash over her that she cannot contain. She tries to suck back the tears but it doesn’t work. It’s literally the only time she loses control of her emotions in all the interviews they did. Why would that trigger her so badly, other than the obvious? If she didn’t kill Jonbenet, why would John saying he wanted the death penalty for the killer, hit her so hard? I feel like she felt so guilty for hurting him so bad that he would say he wanted someone to die. He even says “I’m sorry” to her when she starts breaking down. It’s just such a bizarre moment. Anyways, I’ll stfu now lol. I could keep typing for days probably but I’ve made you suffer enough! What is your theory? Who did what? Who knew what and when did they know it?

[@Southern-Sleuth]

WELL SAID both of you. Yes they are believable if you don't know all the facts. They also had a drop down screen in their bedroom they would watch movies 🎥 on. John is lying saying the grand jury refused to indict them. It was the DA who refused Alex Hunt. The grand jury met for 13 months, saw all of the evidence including Lou Smit's intruder theory and the grand jury returned a true bill with 2 indictments each for Patsy and John. Accessory to murder covering up for a third person and child abuse resulting in death by knowingly putting a child in a harmful situation which caused death (forget the exact wording). They have changed their stories so many times! It's infuriating! I think Burke hit JonBenét with the flashlight. Maybe Burke went to the kitchen to get a snack (pineapple, milk in a bowl) and JonBenét took a bite and it made Burke angry. Or they were fighting over a new Christmas toy. He was aggressive to her we know from him hitting her with a golf club, spreading his feces on her chocolate candy and in her bed. Maybe he was jealous of JonBenét and autism spectrum made him act out aggressively because he wasn't capable of controlling his behavior or emotions. JonBenét was at the pediatrician 33 times in 3 years (JonBenét had vaginitis a lot) and Patsy called the pediatrician 3 times on Dec 17th. My guess is either John or Burke was digitally penetrating her to cause the vaginitis. So maybe Burke or John inserted the stick in her that night and did the garrote? I don't know who did what but we know Patsy wrote the ransom note. Patsy maybe did the duct tape because the the had her red jacket fibers on them. It's ridiculous how Patsy says the experts say the ransom note was written beforehand while the perpetrator was in the house waiting for hours but then the perpetrator can't get of the house with JonBenét by taking her through the window? It doesn't make logical sense. Why would an intruder do all this pre planning but can't get her out the window they came in...because there was no intruder!!

[@deeannhale5327]

Burke did it! They are covering it up!

[@raymorrow1491]

Awesome post from both of you..I agree the parents are 100% involved. I lean on two theories... I believe John was into some dark fantasies ..I believe both jonbenet and burke were being abused...possibly at the same time that night...(which would later explain Burke's odd and evasive behavior during the interview with the child psychologist) ....it went too far with a lack of oxygen...jonbenet passes out... John tries to resuscitate her by shocking her....she doesn't wake up... And I believe they panicked and staged the rest including the strike to the head.. ransom note, etc.. they couldn't call the police cuz it would just look too suspicious and point back to them.. plus there's too much physical evidence of sexual abuse to her body... I personally believe he threatened patsy... My second theory is that John was pimping his daughter out. I don't buy for one second that he feel uncomfortable about her going to the child pageants.. if he did he would not have allowed it.. I'm sure there was other wealthy elite pedophiles that were swapping kids with others that would attend these pageants. This was Christmas night? What better way to learn them downstairs then to dress up as Santa.. I think the stun gun was used to incapacitate her.. this was their sick way of justifying the abuse.. "if she's asleep, then she won't remember anything"... As the perpetrator/friend of john's was performing his sick deeds, I think it's possible JonBenet started to come to and fight back.. and then this is where the scream took place that the neighbors heard... The perpetrator panics and hits her over the head. I lean more towards John being guilty.. I mean we know that JonBenet was redressed after her death and wiped down... Why would anyone think to do that if it's just an intruder? I guess it's also possible that John was fully responsible but convinced Patsy that he found her like that... And then said to cover our butts we better make this look like a kidnapping gone wrong.. Lastly, one thing I don't hear anyone bring up.. if you think about it.. what if detective Linda Arndt never told John to go search the house again? What do you think John's game plan would have been? I don't think he was planning on revealing her body.. I personally believe they were going to wait until everyone left the house and then they would take her body and dispose of it. But I think when detective Arndt suggested they search again.. he had a moment of panic and realize they were going to find jonbenet eventually... Odd thing that he went straight for the wine cellar. And if I recall, the door was locked when a previous police officer try to open it. Why would John go straight there and unlock it? He just magically had the key in his pocket that whole time? Lastly the fact that he's calling his pilot to get the plane ready.. oh my goodness, think about it your child has just been kidnapped allegedly.. presumably is being kept in the area and you're looking to fly across the country and get out of Dodge... Yeah the parents are involved.

[@SusieQ1971]

​@@trickortrump3292 Just saw your response to my post. Thank you for the support. Can you tell me which interview you're referring to where John says he wants the death penalty? In any interview I saw he says he forgives the killer. That he used to feel like "let me alone in a room with the killer and we won't need a trial" (the typical macho thing any man would say if his loved one was murdered) but then he said he realized he can't dwell in anger and hate. I go back to their first couple of media interviews when their priority was to defend themselves over wanting justice for their daughter. As far as who did this? I go back and forth and can make a case for each of them Patsy, John, or Burke could have. Burke was extremely jealous of all the attention she got, was completely emotionally detached, and has never shown an ounce of sadness over his sister being dead. The psychologist said she'd never seen a child who's sibling had died not draw the sibling in the family drawing. He was almost 10. And one or both parents had to cover it up and stage it to seem like an intruder. But the father could've been sexually abusing his daughter and had to silence her. There are a lot of different possible explanations. Patsy could have lost her temper and thrown JB against a wall or tub, we see her act out in one of her interrogations with the cops. I remember as a 5 year old my dad losing his temper and throwing me onto my bed. He felt really bad afterwards and was thankful I didn't get hurt. Even the most loving parent can have a fed up moment and lose it on a child. Sad but it happens all the time. I think Steve Thomas's theory was pretty good. He was involved from day one and knows more than we do. Linda Arndt was sure John did it but I think she assumed he did it because he found her body and brought it to her. I don't know that she considered he just knew what happened and could've helped cover it up. So many things don't make sense. I've seen multiple psychics do readings and they all have different stories. Or they will cop out and say JonBenet won't tell them who killed her. I really don't know. There's a guy on here who is a handwriting analysis expert and a behavioral expert, his name is Marcel Elfers or something, can't remember. But he sets up an en entire case, motive, and cover up basically saying Patsy witnessed John molesting JB so she gets a bat or flashlight and swings to hit him with it but he ducks and she ends up accidentally cracking her daughter's head open and hence the cover up and Patsy writing the letter. I really don't know. The fact that John was missing for an hour that day and when Linda saw him again his behavior had drastically changed made me think Steve Thomas may be right, that he knew nothing about her being in the basement but found her on his own and knew he had to make a choice. There are too many possibilities that's why nobody really knows.

[@pamelasmith6221]

The pineapple and cream was an exact dish that was talked about in the book The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. It was a favorite of Patsy’s and there are many similarities in that to what went on in this crime. These two are not telling the truth. The way they are so defensive shows that. They are very angry. It’s only fair for people to question everything. How do the parents explain all the abuse JBR had to her body?

[@bethryan9077]

Right, so according to Your brain cells, in no way could any vile sadistic mongrels have caused abuse on this child's body, only parents do that. Hmm.

[@freddie3206]

PAMELA SMITH, EXACTLY! PATSY CLAIMS SHE HAD NO IDEA HOW THE BOWL OF PINEAPPLE AND MILK GOT ON THE DINING ROOM TABLE BUT YET HER FINGER PRINTS AND BURKE'S ARE BOTH ON THE BOWL. THE AUTOPSY SHOWS JONBENET HAD PINEAPPLE IN HER STOMACH BEFORE HER DEATH. COME ON PATSY, WE ARE NOT THAT STUPID. YOU WROTE THAT LONG FOOLISH RN. NOBODY IN HISTORY HAS EVER WRITTEN SUCH A LONG AND FOOLISH RN. TO BOOT THEY ONLY ASK FOR CIGARETTE CHANGE FOR RANSOM MONEY. I THINK NOT. THEN THEY LEAVE THE DEAD BODY IN THE BASEMENT ONLY TO BE FOUND AND NEVER GET THEIR CIGARETTE MONEY. HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE PATSY. BUT I WILL GIVE CREDIT TO YOU AND YOUR SHADY HUSBAND. YOU BOTH PULLED IT OFF!!!!!

[@jw8708]

An old pageant secret that worked as a cleanse for bloat!

[@franceskajacobs2766]

​@@jw8708 what r u talking about please

[@Kiapurple8]

​@@franceskajacobs2766pineapple and cream

[@kathreilly7050]

Mr Ramsey is a very cold and calculating man very intelligent I know what the first police officer at the house meant when they found the body

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. *Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.* The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. *NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. **The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@juliad368]

I don’t find him to be cold

[@Swe3t_suga]

@@bethryan9077Damn, is this John?? 😅😅 that was a novel in itself

[@DanAxl-x9d]

The non verbal communication when they looked at each other. No comment ...

[@bethryan9077]

@@DanAxl-x9d One of them farted. And?

[@micheleaherne2729]

This smacks of the Madeline McCann case. Her parents were involved but had a great deal of powerful people behind them to cover it up too.

[@crazydolphin33]

Yep.

[@latchmandrepaul9108]

Exactly the same. Died in the property and mccanns happy for a rapist, not child murderer take the rap .

[@bethryan9077]

The only similarity deary is that both sets of parents were very good looking, very well spoken, very well educated, very well put together & Not afraid to speak up to the Media. Oh & they were wealthy. Aww. BTW - there is Nothing to say that Maddie is even deceased so all that you Ignorant people spout about her poor parents also, is Moot. BTW - who are all these 'powerful people behind them'? Name them, back your mouth. I'll wait.

[@bethryan9077]

@@latchmandrepaul9108 And your Evidence that Maddie 'died in the property' Is? 'Exactly the same' you say. LMAO. How old are you?

[@KingUsyk]

​​@@bethryan9077Beth 'paid by the word' Ryan, the Ramsey bot account that haunts these comment sections like a bad smell 😂

[@Kiapurple8]

John Ramsay said "he unlatched the door" you then hear patsy cleared her throat. JRamsey continues to say he then finds his daughter on the floor. And then patsy clears their throat again, to make the first throat clearing not suspicious. patsy cleared her throat because john screwed up. When saying he unlatched the door. Why would the killer latch the door especially a latch that was up high. Also, if it was latched (locked)wouldn't that suggest she's not in there? fleet white said john had said "i found her" before turning on the lights. He found that suspicious and now they dont speak to each other. Its obvious their son killed the daughter and the parents covered it up to spare their only child.

[@bethryan9077]

To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.

[@michaelaandrews9767]

Maybe she cleared her throat because she is literally chocking up over the memory

[@Kiapurple8]

@@michaelaandrews9767 Exactly...the memory of what they did to their daughter and how they can't slip up. That's why she's clearing her throat.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Kiapurple8 All of you Highly ignorant Ramsey bashers Really need to stick to your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the beginning, the middle & the end. It is soo clear that True crime & Real life is Way over your numpty hate-filled heads. As it was for the keystone cops & so, their books of BS. Approximately 99% of the True details surrounding this case, this crime, this family & what the Plan was to do in their house, you, the general public, know Nothing about. The staging of items in Every room for a start, was the perpetrators idea of Fun. The Ramsey family were victims of one of The most sadistic revenge crimes in world history & they could Never have known that the Boulder PD would have 7-8 investigators supposedly detecting who had Never worked a homicide case Before & so, had never Solved one. More than one thought they could be movie stars & sought a myriad of ways to make Money from this little girl’s death, this Unsolved murder case. It’s way over time to leave the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys in Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Kiapurple8 Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before, Ever & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. And it’s Not the victim’s fault that y’all believe the Fake writing ‘samples’ as If Patsy did that & as If from the police files. Even Steve Thomas wasn’t Game to include that shit Or, didn’t think of doing that at the time. LOL. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/Is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You’re a Nobody, get that STRAIGHT. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah, for all you Victim abusers John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. * Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.

[@allthingsfairy]

When a child is accidentally hurt, a normal family calls 911. When the child is accidentally hurt due to negligence or if the child will show signs of previous abuse, the child’s body is a crime scene. Some very well known cases have this in common, where the parent stages a kidnapping and/or tries to pin the murder on an intruder or stranger. The whole ransom note is the author trying to convince the reader that they really are an intruder and kidnappers. It’s so over the top in attempts to sound dangerous, that it points directly at the family. JonBenet was going to be left, somewhere off the side of a road, with the “adequate sized atache” to explain in case someone saw them. The brown paper bag, was also part of the alibi building. Rest in peace, that sweet baby was abused and betrayed.

[@kingpriapatius5832]

"as a woman" is N O T an argument.

[@briannotafan3368]

evey one can tell patsy wrote the note

[@bethryan9077]

You see Fake writing on pages put on a screen. Derr. BTW - not 'everyone' sits on the daftass side of the train pal, speak for Yourself.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad to do that & then, would tell the cops, detectives, expert homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the note on the rung of the back staircase! Nor would Anyone have put the notepad on the back hall table or would have just plopped the marker used in the pen cup. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Unfortunately for this case, Ron Walker & more than one BPD cop had something called Moron syndrome. And soo many within the public domain, have that in their brain cells also. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or a myriad of other expert homicide investigators OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. Now go play.

[@nataliana7057]

Конечно она💯

[@briannotafan3368]

when 10 o'clock deadline came & went you didnt even look at the phone cause you knew she was dead in the bacement

[@bethryan9077]

The note said Tomorrow. Doh

[@berniekoblinsky103]

Doesn’t matter what day. Phatsy killed her and knew that phone was never going to ring. Phatsy’s is guilty. She’s as phony as a three dollar bill. Clumsy about it as well.

[@dishdog215]

@@bethryan9077 Brian ain,t smart enough to figure that out.... Typical dimwit KZbin comment

[@Scrappicat]

@@bethryan9077 If they (the intruder) wrote the note on Christmas then tomorrow would be the 26th at 10 am. Patsy didn't really think that through when she was concocting the note, huh?

[@bethryan9077]

@@Scrappicat omg, to say that the note meant the 26th, just shows the level of Your intellect. It is You who doesn't think anything through. Get over yourself deary, you can't Fathom anything that happened because this crime hasn't been a script for your one hour made up TV shows. FYI - All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Evidence & by Actual experts, who included Forensic Scientists. You don't know a damn thing & you're a Nobody.

[@juliaalexandra5031]

These people are uneffingbelievable. I just can't with how much they lie and blame everyone else when they are the direct issue.

[@vicksta8875]

DISGUSTING ISNT IT?? ISNT LYING A DAM CRIME?? NOT TO MENTION, THE LIES ARE ON TAPE AND VIDEO,how they literally changed their statements! Over and Over!!!

[@landonadams5461]

You’re ignorant and are so gullible to the media

[@rigelb9025]

Yes.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rigelb9025 Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. Of course you will have No Idea why I specifically stated ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, of Course. None of you have read ANY Case Evidence, you watch TV & pick out the bits that Suit Your Character. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for 26 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who suffered in silence & even More So due to the false information campaign from the Boulder PD & the high number of mouthing off Monsters within the public domain. What part of Exonerated do you Not understand? You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is.

[@bethryan9077]

@@rigelb9025 From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case. The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key. The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic. The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online. What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen. This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement. The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours. There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all. The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour. And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues. Clearly you've got it. I pity you pal, it must be terrible to be so dense.

[@styleofthecitytv8576]

The ransom note made no sense and was intended not to, there was no kidnapping, RIP Jonbenet

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@fatnipples2.044]

Wow....such sadness they are expressing with a smile.

[@bethryan9077]

Obviously you're not even smart enough to know that producers Edit to suit their agendas & then the promoters of shows on Utube do the Same Thing.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself- you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down these threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@alexandergreenfield91]

@@bethryan9077 he's probably referring to their grin while responding directly to questions regarding their recently murdered daughter......

[@bethryan9077]

@@alexandergreenfield91 Those with a Biased attitude, have a Very biased Perception. Then there's all those who aren't very bright to start with. You people don't even know how long after the murder this interview occurred & you have No Idea about the Context of Any parts of the conversation either. You all need to watch Other interviews with family members of murdered people instead of hating on These parents for no sound reason, about a crime that You Know Nothing About.

[@alexandergreenfield91]

@@bethryan9077 having watched all the parents interviews and listened to the specialists, I'm now leaning towards their son probably did it. And quite possibly without any real intent to kill. And in an emotional irrational state they decided to stage a cover up. There was a great piece done on the 20th anniversary using the best experts available.

[@psmith9789]

She actually promoted their book!

[@bethryan9077]

She has the Right to promote their book which was/is Their story & True Facts. This case was still under investigation & so, like all other open cases, the Ramseys couldn't disclose a whole lot of the factual information to the public at that time.

[@NathanielStanley-r8s]

What book was she talking about when she was saying read the chapter of who we think the killer was

[@AApr1374Jo1881]

Patsy wrote the ransom essay 100%

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is Evidenced & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. ** BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, these never-ending ‘shows’ will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. *Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, the Case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this 6 year old Child. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@captainpandabear1422]

That was not the conclusion of handwriting experts (an iffy science to begin with). She was just the only one they couldn't fully exclude, it wasn't a 'match'

[@trixiec4880]

Patsey's note pads, pens, tape and nylon cord from the Ramsey's home was found at their housekeeper's house. That housekeeper's husband was a criminal pedophile and their own child was found on porn sights. The housekeeper Linda Hoffman Huge was well known to have great anger at the Ramsey's for declining her loans she asked for. Why this was never followed up on by the police is a mystery other then they just decided right away child dead in home, parents involved as in says in the book. Case closed. I tend to think there's a possibility this was a plotted by the housekeeper and her criminal pedo husband to frame Patsey with that ridiculous note. I don't believe Patsey had memorized lines from every action movie of the time to quicky jot down in a panic.

[@AApr1374Jo1881]

@@captainpandabear1422 the grand jury evidence did prove Patsy was the author of the ransom essay.

[@Savingdea]

She can’t even bring herself to look at her own letter it’s so disturbing to her.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@ralsharp6013]

Did anybody else know that there was a 14-year-old babysitter? First time I've heard about this person and I want to know more. Just after the 47 minute mark...

[@stephentresca3536]

I didn’t know that also. Why wasn’t he or she questioned? The person who killed her knew the layout of the house.

[@joycedoyle8251]

never knew that either

[@ralsharp6013]

1 year later and the evidence surrounding that guy Gary Oliva is compelling! 😮 The interview with Garys schoolmate gave me chills.. My goodness, his handwriting looks like Patsy's and the randsome note! 😮 I could never get my head around, how much the ransom note looks like Patsy's 😢handwriting. Now I can't get my head around, how much Gary's handwriting looks like the ransom note &,patsys handwriting! !

[@sacredlovetarot1971]

The neighbor heard a scream about the time she was being kidnapped but no one in the house heard anything? really..

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

Of course they heard it....there was just no kidnapping

[@rajkoelguapo12]

The house is massive, with 4 floors. The vent from the room close to where they found the body (where the scream came from) is on the completely opposite side of the house. They were on the 4th floor....the scream came from the basement of a mansion -- a test was run and it checked out.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Kevin-tz2lv The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@helenclark2104]

Why are they smiling my god their daughter has been murder

[@bethryan9077]

If they sat there years later for this interview, bawling & rolling around on the floor, you ignorant nobodies would be spouting the exact same Crap about them.

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

She wrote the letter

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@dayra6425]

💯

[@bethryan9077]

@@dayra6425 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@Ada..D]

24:23 John and Patsy stated that it's strange how the ransom note doesn't mention Jonbenéts name anywhere. Oddly enough Patsy didn't mention Jonbenéts name at all when she made the 9/11 call to the police. She also identifies herself to the police operator by saying ' Im the mother ' It's almost as if she's describing actors cast in a play. ' I'm the mother ' And another thing. Who the hell calls 9/11 to report a child as being kidnapped but doesn't give the child's name to the police during the call and then hangs up on the operator ?

[@freddie3206]

ADA, GREAT OBSERVATIONS! SHE TELLS THE 911 OPERATOR SHE'S BLONDE. SHE'S 6

[@bethryan9077]

@@freddie3206 Umm, people who find a Ransom Note presume the child could still be in a Car, heading Wherever & so, Patsy started to Describe her child. You should just go back to sleep, like soo many others, your highly Ignorant comments show that you need to stick to the Cartoons.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is Evidenced & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. ** BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, these never-ending ‘shows’ will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@bethryan9077]

It was 1996, do You get pamphlets in the mail Today, telling you what to do when calling 911? No you don't. It is very evident that Patsy became frustrated with the very calm operator when all Patsy wanted to hear was - the cops were on their way, but she didn't Hear that. She hung up because she was desperate for Immediate help & so, called friends who lived close by. It doesn't matter what she said or didn't say at Any stage, you hateful victim bashers would deride her anyway. Umm, the operator was asking Questions, she did Not ask for the child's Name. Patsy had started to Describe her child & was cut off from doing that, when one would Presume the cops would start looking for Cars heading wherever with a small child.

[@freddie3206]

@ADA...D, GOOD POINT ADA.

[@InesSebelić]

This woman was never cry, my mom died 30 years ago, steel when I talking about her death I can stop to cry

[@michaelaandrews9767]

But you are not HER. Why does the whole world have to behave the way you do? Also, this is a reaction to profound shock, and the death of a young child. I am assuming the death of your mother was very sad for you, but not shocking in this way

[@nataliana7057]

Да она никогда не плакала

[@InesSebelić]

@@michaelaandrews9767 Her behavior was not normal!!!!!!! Dad Is bilioner👹 and we know that they must secrefise somebody to be that rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bethryan9077]

@@InesSebelić Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. Of course you will have No Idea why I specifically stated ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, of Course. None of you have read ANY Case Evidence, you watch TV & pick out the bits that Suit Your Character. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for 26 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who suffered in silence & even More So due to the false information campaign from the Boulder PD & the high number of mouthing off Monsters within the public domain. What part of Exonerated do you Not understand? You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. . If the public knew Everything that the intruders, being the Vilest of sociopaths, Really did to this little 6 year old Child & just so you Know, all that they did to her went on for Hours, along with everything that they did in that house whilst her family were sleeping upstairs, You the public would - Freak the hell out. The Ramseys were finally officially Exonerated in 2008 & that Means that Law Enforcement proved that nobody from that household did a damn thing but you victim bashers get off on hating on them soo very much that the fooltube shows like the tabloid magazines from way back then, keep the false information shitshows coming because envy & hatred for your betters makes Money off, simpletons & peasants. People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around. It would be Very interesting to conduct a survey in the U.S., to find out the percentage of the Ramsey bashers who Do NOT Have - a Four storey 7,000 square foot Mansion - nor 2 private planes, a designer built yacht, a centrefold holiday house & money to Burn. Envy is a Sin you know.

[@caoimhemoran5646]

Rest In Peace ✝️🕊️

[@jadetaylor2443]

Gaslighting by psychopaths.

[@bethryan9077]

Ignorant TV consumptives, grow up.

[@bethryan9077]

Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. And it’s Not the victim’s fault that y’all believe the Fake writing ‘samples’ as If Patsy did that & as If from the police files. Even Steve Thomas wasn’t Game to include that shit Or, didn’t think of doing that at the time. LOL. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah, for all you Victim abusers John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. * Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.

[@janesantoni9773]

John acts like the broken basement window just happened when Burke says in a interview Dad broke the window when we were locked out one day...

[@bethryan9077]

John has Never said that the broken window had just happened. He stated that he did that in the summer at about 11 p.m., the kids & Patsy were in Charlevoix, when he locked himself out of the house as he had done more than once. That window couldn't be seen from the outside & it was the cheapest to fix. It's a Fact that the housekeeper vacuumed the glass 2 times, the last time John did that. Burke was with John the time Before.

[@emilydixon7534]

John has always said he broke that window to get in, in the summer

[@jesssay5552]

We loved our daughter and we didn’t kill her . Licks his lips to remove the lie he just told !!!!

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@StarlightPrincess70]

Constant lick lipping, throat clearing and hard swallows...... all signs of lying.

[@daniellakarenina8634]

Yes john is a liar. He also lied about that his kids did not need any spanking or correction because they were good kids. Did John not know that Burke p00ppped in JonBenet's bed many times and hit her with a stick in her face and smeared his feces on her toys on christmas. John is a liar. And Patsy is a double faced liar too! Her picture PERFECT children and household that she bragged about in her stupid Christmas letters to friends and family did NOT EXIST!! Her house was a terrible messed up pig stall! A complete dirty chaos! Just like her disordered mind. Parading around with a gigantic cross necklace on her chest while selling out your little daughter's soul to pageants. Fake religious. A manipulative deceiving borderliner that is what Patsy is! You can see it in her eyes.

[@bethryan9077]

Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn.

[@baumer2504]

Hold on. He said his child was in Heaven and then when it comes to digging her body back up to retrieve more evidence that could help catch the killer he says I didn't want to disturb her peace when her body was at rest. Like her daughter wouldn't want her own murder solved?

[@jamesradskijr.9745]

The family has been hiding behind their religion from day one.

[@vicksta8875]

@@jamesradskijr.9745 Got that right!! Its literally the only defense they have!! God loving, bible thumping jerks that got away with everything!! Shame on them. Thier daughter was supposed to be protected by her parents.. Windows and doors left unlocked.. Alarm system off. Numerous people with house keys, etc.. They sound like a bunch of IDIOTS, holding a Bible! 😈🤦‍♀️

[@bethryan9077]

@@jamesradskijr.9745 All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago. You Ignorant people need to just Shut It.

[@bethryan9077]

He said that because some idiot challenged the Experts about a stun gun being used or not & the suggestion was to bring up the body to have another look at the areas of contact. That would Not identify the murderer & so, John said No.

[@Scorpio-unicorn14]

​@@bethryan9077 the stun gun theory is probably one of the most ridiculous theories of all. A stun gun is loud and when someone is stung with one,they let out a gut wrenching loud scream.And yes I know this for a fact.

[@mamarealtalk5850]

Patsy, "We've been investigated more than anyone in the history of this country." Really? Really Patsy?

[@lilcajunqueen888]

Her need to be the most, the best, and perfect is why we are here decades later. Her arrogance and condescending nature reveal her true nature. She is fake, and God forbid the world know her life and kids were not perfect.

[@bethryan9077]

All of you Highly ignorant Ramsey bashers Really need to stick to your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the beginning, the middle & the end. It is soo clear that True crime & Real life is Way over your numpty hate-filled heads. As it was for the keystone cops & so, their books of BS. Approximately 99% of the True details surrounding this case, this crime, this family & what the Plan was to do in their house, you, the general public, know Nothing about. The staging of items in Every room for a start, was the perpetrators idea of Fun. The Ramsey family were victims of one of The most sadistic revenge crimes in world history & they could Never have known that the Boulder PD would have 7-8 investigators supposedly detecting who had Never worked a homicide case Before & so, had never Solved one. More than one thought they could be movie stars & sought a myriad of ways to make Money from this little girl’s death, this Unsolved murder case. It’s way over time to leave the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys in Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. And it’s Not the victim’s fault that y’all believe the Fake writing ‘samples’ as If Patsy did that & as If from the police files. Even Steve Thomas wasn’t Game to include that shit Or, didn’t think of doing that at the time. LOL. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah, for all you Victim abusers John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. * Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.

[@Moluccan56]

@@mamarealtalk5850 She was an evil entity. I hated seeing her speak.

[@annechris2677]

The son raped Jon

[@marleenverbauwhede906]

Another episode of “How to get away with murder”!

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@bethryan9077]

Another page full of people who should Not be allowed to Vote.

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, of Course. None of you have read ANY Case Evidence, you watch TV & pick out the bits that Suit Your Character. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for 26 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who suffered in silence & even More So due to the high number of Monstrous people in the public domain. What part of Exonerated do you Not understand? You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is.

[@durgaekm5204]

Just have money, power and influence. It's that easy!

[@bethryan9077]

@@durgaekm5204 You kids should realise that as this case has never been to trial, you know absolutely Nothing about it except the tabloid fodder never ending BS that makes Money from the naive, the hateful & the stupid. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a whole bunch of Actual experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who included the Seasoned expert investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You are nothing but another daft Nobody who watched a few biased TV shows full of False information that you believed because you Chose to do that as you’re not very Bright. Doh. At least you’re not the only one with that affliction. You are wrong, you will Always be wrong & you need to deal with that Fact! All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re & on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. Now, go play.

[@ceopresident496]

If anyone said I killed my child in this manner I would have gotten so angry I would have snapped because I am not an advocate of child abuse or an offender. People who get away with murder can smile. People who don't know who killed their child would never be able to get over it. They would mourn for the rest of their lives.

[@bethryan9077]

Those with a Biased attitude, have a Very biased Perception. Go watch more shows about the same subject. Loads of the loved ones Smile when talking about the family member who was murdered & the Same in relation to death of a loved one under usual circumstances. Then there's all those who were brought up to act with Dignity, no matter the stress & grief they feel. If Patsy Had snapped, all those like yourself would deride her, Exactly the Same.

[@ceopresident496]

@@bethryan9077 go find someone else to troll.

[@bethryan9077]

@@ceopresident496 Oh, so it's perfectly OK for You to post your highly Ignorant atrocious accusations against this Proven Innocent family, but someone who tells you some Home Truths, is a troll. LMAO. Go have a good look in the mirror ya Thing.

[@ceopresident496]

@@bethryan9077 yeah that's basically what I meant. Go away and find something else to do with your time.

[@bethryan9077]

@@ceopresident496 I tell the True Facts & I defend this Innocent family. It's You & your like who need to STFU.

[@CowSaysMooMoo]

guy's name is "John Bennett Ramsey" Name their daughter "JonBenet" Much ego there???

[@Romulan2469]

That's a very interesting observation. You make a great point about his egotism and narcissism. Looking at this body language here I'm seeing what may be dupers delight, a constant smile on his face as he tries to fool us all about what happened and how he has managed to get away with it.

[@wbl5649]

oh please, how juvenile, how many sons are name Jr. after their fathers, i.e Robert Jr....are they all egomaniac too..or name the daughter Roberta.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Romulan2469 This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. At the very beginning, the media put out that JB was strangled to death & that was the Medical Examiner’s Report which was Correct. The blows to this child’s head were just After that. Who did the old switcheroo & for what reason? You have No idea what was going on behind the scenes with those lousy & ever deceitful Cops. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were In That House. One half of the public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The other half watched that Bogus CBS TV Show & believed it all & now so many say that it’s the Kid brother who bonked his little sister on the head over a piece of pineapple. LOL. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder via Any of the Ramseys. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st of 9 pages has the emblem for Boulder County. That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the bona fide experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved - She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he conned himself inside to their kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts had their Own Ideas for Money. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risks for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that Bogus CBS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from - all those who are ignorant, hateful, gullible & then there’s all those who are not very bright.

[@rigelb9025]

@@wbl5649Of course it's juvenile, considering the topic at hand in this particular thread is the naming of children.

[@INFJ2]

Let me tell you "JON BENNET PATRICIA RAMSEY" NO NAME OF HER OWN

[@annamariehewitt3173]

The Truth is like Water....It always finds a way.......

[@INFJ2]

Never will be solved. Never. But we all know it points right back to them...

[@bethryan9077]

The problem for Soo many like Yourself, you don't know a damn thing about the crime, the case Or what Actually happened to JB yet mouth off about the parents anyway. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago. These sites only exist for the all the brainwashed zombies to hate some more on a family who they know Nothing about.

[@dishdog215]

Only dimwits think like you

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah John & Patsy come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty.

[@bethryan9077]

Nothing points backs to them deary, that's Why they were Never arrested. Doh.

[@Yuming38843]

He seemed happy and satisfied talking about his daughter’s murder. So strange.

[@hellsbells991]

What I don't understand is, if someone scoped the house beforehand, why take her to the basement which is going to be difficult to get her out of rather than walking out of the front/back door or using a ground floor window?

[@bethryan9077]

There are many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime. One needs to take the time to think about why. This was a very Very well Planned crime for money & revenge, JB was Never to be taken from the basement.

[@maxalberts2003]

@@bethryan9077 "Revenge" is right. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and that about sums up Patsy Ramsey.

[@MahlonEdwards]

I believe but you Do understand...Because there was...no one...

[@bethryan9077]

@@maxalberts2003 The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

@@MahlonEdwards This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from - all those who are ignorant, hateful, gullible & then there’s all those who are not very bright.

[@najsavrsenijaprincezaikada]

the body language of these two and burke was always sick to me...

[@bethryan9077]

All those with a Biased attitude have a Very biased Perception.

[@michaelaandrews9767]

To you, and thank God you don't have any power to make decisions in this case

[@La_Pascualita]

​@@michaelaandrews9767Michaela andrews .. John andrews.. hmm..

[@antonchigurh7227]

Even OJ Simpson is going "come on now" 😂

[@bethryan9077]

You're just Another who knows nothing about this crime & even Less about the case. You don't even Know what actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago.

[@reallifelebowski4732]

@@bethryan9077 They were never proven innocent you lame liar. That's the biggest urban legend and myth that the Ramsey legal team tried to spin.. They were exonerated by the people they hired (that's about it) 110% guilty

[@markymark1769]

@@bethryan9077 and you don't know either 🤷‍♂️

[@bethryan9077]

@@markymark1769 Yes I sure do. It's not my fault that you & so many others,, know Nothing.

[@markymark1769]

@@bethryan9077 incorrect

[@LinTrueCrimeProject]

These two are guilty as the day is long and they got their son off the hook for murder. It's great being rich.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@marierees8890]

Patsy calling her friends right after 911 makes zero sense. And if you thought your child was kidnapped, you would immediately grab your other child and have them right by your side. No doubt the police screwed up by not securing the crime scene and letting John disappear for 90 minutes in the house. And LE should have had the Ramsey's down at the police station for interrogation the day she was found. They had time to get their story straight.

[@peaceangel-rl2hf]

Patsy did this To intentionally contaminate the crime scene. She wrote the ransom note., they did not cooperatewith police but spoke to media...she's directly involved

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@bethryan9077]

Firstly, it not the norm for kidnappers to hang around til the parents get out of bed so they can then kidnap the other child. Doh. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - for Help. And, they lived close by. Being in great shock & fear & not being accustomed to knowing Exactly what to do in the event of a Ransom Note, they raced to call the Cops, the child could still be in a Car heading Wherever. John was then running around trying to find where someone got in & Patsy had just got off the phone when officer French arrived within 6 minutes of the Start of that call. Patsy was near hysterical & all but in a state of collapse, French had them sit in the sunroom & he did a cursory look around. People take Instructions from cops, presuming they know what they're doing. John did Not disappear for 90 minutes At All, it was John Fernie who left the house for a while because he was arranging a 2nd lot of the cash from His banker. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. He asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were out. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them has written a Book. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still.

[@michaelaandrews9767]

No one knows how they'd behave in such circumstances.

[@oiooi6460]

The mum wrote the note obviously.

[@voteyourconscience5080]

Well i think the secret died with the mother. She probably knew who did it

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@vlbraydenlv1223]

@bethryan9077 Okay, John! We know it’s you and your burner.

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

Her rebuttal and the distinct way she talks and the language phonics she uses sounds exactly like the ransom note.. Look at her defensive body language.. Concerned 100% about herself without a thought of her daughter *As guilty as guilty gets*

[@quincywho]

"Don't try to grow a brain John" "You're not the only fat cat around" Like come on. That is TOTALLY her.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - there is No 'intruder theory', It Is A Proven Fact. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down these threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go get your mommy to Read that to you slowly

[@bethryan9077]

Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? Only morons believe Patsy Did That! N.B. I have already Outed You, as someone who posts under at least Two other profiles - Anton Chigurh & Real Life Lebowski. Having fun yet? LMAO.

[@bethryan9077]

The Present officers had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine & Linda Arndt wrote a favourable report about the Ramseys to the BPD & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch. She arrived at 8.10 a.m. with detective Patterson. It was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. Eight cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning. It was the Cops who should have found JB early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Many today believe Arndt was the only officer at the house all day when That is not true either. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. She tried to sue the BPD for Money, but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer. Lying loon Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing To Hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. You people know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most of you don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace.. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies & Mrs Stine - For Help. Mrs Stine couldn’t come. Mr Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 8 cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all cops were gone by 10.30 a.m. John did Not go straight to the cellar. He & Fleet White were checking out the broken window, looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. The cellar was the next room at that end of the basement. John had Presumed the cops down the basement that morning had checked out that broken window early that morning. He was to find out later that the cops hadn't gone through the train room door & so to those windows. The cops didn't know about that broken window til they went back that evening. That's Why the 'famous' photo of the opened window was taken in the Night. The cops have always kept That info from the public. The same cops, also failed to flip the latch down on the top of door jamb of the cellar door & pull that door open, they just walked away. Officer Veitch went around the exterior when still dark that morning with his flashlight, he failed to those same windows under the grate. Reichenbach went around the exterior later when light, he too failed to see those windows. That broken window is Not where the perps got into the house, but That is Not the point. Steve Thomas continually said that John had lied about getting in that window when he locked himself out of the house, even though the housekeeper had vacuumed up the broken glass there 2 times. Thomas nor any other cop Ever tried to climb in there. Months later, it took Lou Smit to Demonstrate, that was True

[@vicksta8875]

BUT THIER TRUTH DID CHANGE! They Changed stories... They lied! 1st lie... Carried JB up to bed... (Burke said 'JB walked slowly up the stairs behind mom, then me then dad") JR said, "I carried JB up stairs, put her too bed, asleep." 2nd lie: We put JB too bed in her clothes.. Yet JB was wiped down and changed. (They changed her) 3: 3cops took JR's statement that he "Read to JB" before she slept.. (Then he changed his story) 4: Urban myth? There was SNOW at the time of the supposed Intruder. (Around the Grate to the window intruder) No Foot prints!) The walkway to the house, had melted... Not the area of window.. 4: They DID have a PR Firm, it was within thier law firm.. 5: Thier Interviews were TIMED and only allowed certain questions! 6: Jon bonet was "previously" chronic, sexual abuse (lied and denied the abuse) 7: Burke knew nothing?. The 911 enhanced tape, you CAN hear a little boys voice..( he was awake!) 8: The Ramseys Sued Every Interviewer for Not going along with thier Narrative ( intruder) There is a list out there.. 9: John Andrews suitcase was Put beneath the window. His Semen encrusted, child's blanket and Dr Suess book in it. They "denied" knowing where this case came from?!! What? JA semen?! 10: The Flashlight.. They had No Idea whos it was it first.. Then Pasty says, "it looks like the one JA gave John as a gift". ( so it does look familiar ) 11: 5Male and 1Female DNA Profiles where found on JB! This is the imperative dna that the DA wouldn't allow to be tested!! Why? Well, the Ramseys paid off the higher ups( went broke doing this with many) 12: A Plea-deal was made a year after JB's murder( records sealed) The deal was truth for No prosecution. Thier "Story" JB fell down the stairs, they panicked with her death, staged the entire kidnapping and scene... (Daaa) THESE People got away with murder... CASE CLOSED DECADES AGO!! We've been Strung Along for YEARS, trying to get to the bottom of this.. When it read the paper work regarding the PLEA-DEAL, I Beside myself... John Ramsey has been making money with books and More Interviews.. He KNOWS this case is closed! And he knows EXACTLY what Happened!! YOU DONT PLEA IF YOURE INNOCENT!!! 😈💩

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all the loons- you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - there is No 'intruder theory', It Is A Proven Fact. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down these threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

Nothing that you Ranted about is true. You're raving capital letters & your stupid emojis sure do show what is True about you.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that & see if your mommy will Read it to you aloud.

[@bethryan9077]

The Present officers had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine & Linda Arndt wrote a favourable report about the Ramseys to the BPD & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch. She arrived at 8.10 a.m. with detective Patterson. It was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. Eight cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning. It was the Cops who should have found JB early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Many today believe Arndt was the only officer at the house all day when That is not true either. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. She tried to sue the BPD for Money, but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer. Lying loon Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing To Hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. You people know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most of you don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace.. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies & Mrs Stine - For Help. Mrs Stine couldn’t come. Mr Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 8 cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all cops were gone by 10.30 a.m. John did Not go straight to the cellar. He & Fleet White were checking out the broken window, looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. The cellar was the next room at that end of the basement. John had Presumed the cops down the basement that morning had checked out that broken window early that morning. He was to find out later that the cops hadn't gone through the train room door & so to those windows. The cops didn't know about that broken window til they went back that evening. That's Why the 'famous' photo of the opened window was taken in the Night. The cops have always kept That info from the public. The same cops, also failed to flip the latch down on the top of door jamb of the cellar door & pull that door open, they just walked away. Officer Veitch went around the exterior when still dark that morning with his flashlight, he failed to those same windows under the grate. Reichenbach went around the exterior later when light, he too failed to see those windows. That broken window is Not where the perps got into the house, but That is Not the point. Steve Thomas continually said that John had lied about getting in that window when he locked himself out of the house, even though the housekeeper had vacuumed up the broken glass there 2 times. Thomas nor any other cop Ever tried to climb in there. Months later, it took Lou Smit to Demonstrate, that was True.

[@vicksta8875]

@@bethryan9077 So, what about your "True Facts" YOU RANT ABOUT? THEY HAVE NO SOLID GROUND OF TRUTH?? JUST WORDS SPOKEN FROM A BUNCH OF LIARS! BETH... WE KNOW YOUR CHEESE SLIPPED OFF YOUR CRACKER... ITS OKAY. YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WILL, AND I WILL DO THE SAME... 🖕😅🤣

[@Savingdea]

He puts the glasses on to look more convincing but it looks way more deceptive, like if he hadn’t read that one million times in real grief.

[@Savingdea]

And called his own son sub-human. The real thoughts portrayed on his surviving child for ending the life of his toy. As awful as it sounds.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Savingdea This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid & those like Yourself who are a national Disgrace. Stop spreading you sick pedo fantasies about this Child, that you Made Up in your Head.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Savingdea I don’t see Anyone railing against all those who Make Up from their sick Heads, all the despicable garbage, which is them Accusing JonBenet Herself, of all the Vile incest & paedophile acts that they conjure up with Glee & post proudly. Of the Hundreds of such comments & Stories that I’ve read from these abhorrent so-called human beings, Nobody says a friggin Thing to them. What a National Disgrace. Hang on that’s right, Lots of Other so-called human beings Do say certain things to them, they Agree with them. And because they’re of the Same Ilk, they’re Bolstered to post Their sick thought processes about the same Vile acts, incest & paedophilia, all about this Child, including 9 year old Burke sometimes & no-one rebukes them in Any way. There was never one Skerrick of evidence that JB was previously sexually molested Nor one Skerrick of evidence that JB was previously sexually abused. Not one Skerrick about Burke either. Yet the Ramseys & their Kids are very cruelly subjected to a round-robin of particularly grotesque accusations that include - child sacrifice, satanic worship scenarios, pedos at the garden parties, selling their child, their friends being Allowed to abuse their child, society members being Allowed to abuse their child including Of Course, Epstein & so on & so on - on it goes, Incessantly. According to the same so-called human beings, because the Ramseys were wealthy at the time, all of the above is what they did with their spare time. Nobody Ever mentions that the Ramseys had deep faith in God & were avid church goers. One can pop over to the many videos about the Chris Watt’s murder case. Let me know when you find Anyone who has posted Any comment about Him sexually abusing his little girls Or any other comment about a gang of his friends who did the same & worse. Of all the Hundreds of videos about same subject & victimology, Nobody talks about Any of Those kids as soo many do about This, highly intelligent 6 year old murdered little girl. Shame on you

[@bethryan9077]

The whole world can see who the 'sub-human' is deary. Go have a really good look in the Mirror.

[@amyvial588]

​@@Savingdea I have to throw in my 2 cents, I agree that John is absolutely depraved/immoral. I think he not only was sexually abusing JB, but he more then likely let his rich, powerful friends take a crack at it for the right price. Patsy wrote that note and her husband finished what their weirdo son started. The damage purposefully inflicted to her vaginal walls was to cover up prior sexual abuse. Human trafficking and child sexual assault happens every day, I can't believe people think the parents were not into some shady crap. Sorry, I hate these two😂 I hope John finds a place in Hell next to his trophy wife/stage mother/narcissistic scumbag partner!

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Something about this case doesn't add up.

[@dishdog215]

It is TOTAL clarity for me...the killer was a 15 year old kid from the neighborhood. I used to creep out after midnight and roam my neighborhood at 13 years old... The ransom note SCREAMS "I am an immature teen"!!! and we ALL know 15 year olds KILL... Heck, just 2 years later, and 30 minutes by car, two 17(?) year old teens shot up COLOMBINE

[@mondoenterprises6710]

@@dishdog215 No proof, but total clarity? You might want to check how your mind works. You could have just said, It might a teen from the hood. And you would therefore not destroy your own credibility. But I agree with you about teens creeping.

[@bethryan9077]

Very Few know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. And, Wong had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst in the first place. Her vids show Fake writing on a whiteboard as If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & as If from police files, all Fake. Thomas never worked a murder case before & only cared how his hair looked for the cameras. He constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He was sued for that book of Lies but many in the public domain don’t know about That & still see him as some sort of hero & Repeat his BS. Many unscrupulous so-called ‘authors’ followed his lead & put out Their versions of BS. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. Of course, that was Before Steve Thomas set his sites on his delusions of grandeur & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. He was sued for all his lies & lost every cent. In his desperation for fame & $$, he hadn’t found out/been Told about the 2nd severe fraction to JB’s skull, being a Hole. Besides many of the other gross injuries & sadistic acts to her person, in one word - Torture, that he Dismissed. I suppose he looked good for TV though. Alex Hunter was one of the few who had full Integrity, Lou Smit was another. These men Saw all the evidence known about in those early stages, the public & the grand jury Did Not. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like yourself - you don't know anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@tengallonhat2741]

Beth's workin' this thread like a real job, day after day!

[@tula1433]

😂

[@fab8506]

I noticed that too

[@bethryan9077]

It must be soo terrible for people like You, to Read that some people Know the Truth about this crime And, the Truth about the Case & the Truth about what Actually happened to JB & post those True Facts. As Opposed to all the hate-filled & idiotic garbage that 1000's of people post on all sites. The Same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. These Same people call names At the Ramseys & accuse them of disgraceful & vile acts against Both Kids, Including this sadistic Murder of their 6 year old Child. Then those who are even Worse & do Same to the 9 year old Kid. You all post your Garbage about this fine upstanding family who were All Proven Innocent a Long time ago. BTW - All have the Right to Defend Them. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? Only morons believe Patsy Did That! Not everyone are guilty of being an absolute imbecile deary. Loads of you make up stupid Shite & post about your Baseless ‘observations’ due to your Ignorance, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to something called Evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does Not Mean that it doesn't exist. The Exoneration was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important, yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial, so the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like Yourself. Doh. Like soo many others, You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If fact. At The Same Time, you all Make Up a whole lot of Other Shite & post that As If factual too. Yawn. I do something called Research lovey, isn’t that friggin shocking. LOL. You & your like watch TV & read books of BS & then repeat it all like a pack of Parrots at the Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003. Which Means, NO Ramsey at all. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to all the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had Already Cleared them All & Loads of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. These 2 broke into the house, these 2 sadistically tortured then murdered JB, they left town within the week, one was Seen crossing the Ramsey's backyard after they left for the Whites. This was reported & newsworthy at the time then swept under the rug due to all the BS stories that Continue to be passed around. When the one who was 17 back then is found, there will be an announcement. . ** BTW - the BPD issued a statement to the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

@@TreesRgreen123 FYI - the Authorities proved that unknown males tortured & murdered this little girl. The DNA from one of them has been in CODIS since 2003. Just because you're a part of the brainwashed zombie Cult, does Not mean that everyone is. I tell the True Facts about this case, it's Not my fault that you Don't Know ANY. Doh. I am very well aware that loads of people post their theories. If I wanted to post my 'opinion', I would say imo or I think or maybe. So, according to Your thought processes, an independent person has to be at all crime scenes to witness everything, otherwise Nobody knows what happened. LMAO. Just go back to Sleep.

[@MahlonEdwards]

LoL and smh. Happy to know others have taken note. Seems whacked. She's attacked others in an attempted patronizing way as if she knows all, while simultaneously telling others,well at least me, "you know nothing about this case" which in itself is a purely ignorant, stupid and moronic statement. Dark Horse idiot, included

[@terridrake9555]

Why does patsy keep clearing her throat when they asked her if she left the house that morning

[@candirenner3453]

She has a sore throat! Quit being so dramatic.

[@robertsmith3672]

Who would believe either of them had ever shed a tear .

[@caoimhemoran5646]

Rest In Peace ✝️🕊️

[@tracylawrence5258]

Some people have discernment. Some people can read body language. Some people can feel energy from others. Empathy.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

The ramsey's capitalized on Jon bennett murder horrific

[@bethryan9077]

@@franceskajacobs2766 No deary, You & all those like you, capitalize on this child's horrific murder by spreading the Lies & making up More lies for y'all to get off on.

[@baumer2504]

Patsy is so defensive and nervous during this entire interview.

[@cattycorner8]

I would be too. The loss of JonBenet and the horrible accusations literally killed her.

[@vicksta8875]

@@cattycorner8 then she shouldve told the truth..

[@davidfigueroa6351]

Because she was a piece of sh*t liar.

[@bethryan9077]

@@vicksta8875 Patsy Did tell the truth. Just because You're a hate-filled brainwashed zombie, doesn't mean everyone is. You know Nothing about the crime, the case Or what Actually happened to JB so you have No Right to reply to others as if you do. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago. You people should be leaving this family In Peace.

[@jacobking5924]

She was thrown onto a world stage overnight......who wouldn't be nervous.....

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

She has the same phonics and expressions as the ransom note..

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.

[@martusia4594]

​@@bethryan9077oh shut it... they were paid

[@bethryan9077]

@@martusia4594 So, according to Your 3 brain cells - John paid off about 20 police & also many homicide detectives, 3 DAs & assistant DAs from more than one jurisdiction & then the new DA Michael Dougherty, multiple seasoned investigators, The best homicide profiler in the country, one of The best homicide investigators in the country, at least one Federal Court Judge, many top forensic & DNA scientists from several labs over a span of 27 years, many expert crime scene techs, top forensic pathologists, now CeCe Moore, JB's paediatrician, FBI agents including those in charge of CODIS, Paula Woodward plus many other investigative journalists, lots of friends & acquaintances including neighbours, work colleagues, at least 2 Secret Service agents, 4 renowned private writing analysts, 3 of The best lie detector experts in the country, both of their pilots, plus the innumerable high cost attorneys in charge of multiple litigation cases as well as the first high cost attorneys who took charge of the representations for himself & Patsy & many of the family in relation to a number of reasons & that's just off the top of my head. REALLY? Just go back to Sleep. BTW - what part of Exonerated do you Not understand? Now, just go back to sleep!

[@bethryan9077]

@@martusia4594 Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt made up a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth. You TV consumptive morons believe All of their 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic while you each accuse a Different family member yet you know Zero about the Crime. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago & finally officially Exonerated in 2008. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. All the videos full of the same old same old False information shitshows keep coming for the Entertainment of all you Highly ignorant Ramsey bashers to get off on, obviously. Like the tabloid magazines & all manner of media entities that make Money from people’s abject hatred of others, 99% of these endless abysmal Fooltube shows, one big fat tabloid magazine. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. You people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace & it's You who needs to SHUT IT.

[@shaunpeters]

The fact that they did a book deal in the midst of supposedly grieving is telling

[@SimpleLifeAlways81]

She lies so much, it’s hard to watch

[@bethryan9077]

@@SimpleLifeAlways81 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@debraharrison-hl9cz]

Shaun peters Writing a book would be therapeutic.

[@marissamattingly1734]

2:50 "you survive first because you have other children." There you go. Right there.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@paolobogli458]

You are very smart.

[@Randy_Marsh123]

The police couldn't clear them that is why they couldn't move past them. They kept saying the police should look at other people but wouldn't fully cooperate with police. Telling.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@mariedewitt5033]

How does a person gaining entry through the window move a suitcase underneath? No need to exit the house this way,just go out a door

[@jocelynmelchorb2553]

I think the suitcase is meant to hide the body but then search inside the house is been decided . Then mr Ramsay quickly ran downstairs and found the body. They covered their son because he accidentally hit the sister with flashlight

[@bethryan9077]

@@jocelynmelchorb2553 The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@cafezo87934]

Apparently getting in is easy getting out is hard they needed the suitcase for a boost to get out

[@bethryan9077]

@@cafezo87934 The perps did not enter Or exit through that window. I wish people would stop bangin' on about that friggin window, Lou Smit filmed himself being Able to Fit through there because the less-than-useless cops had never even Tried to, instead, they just said John lied when he told them he'd done that when he locked himself out of the house. The media attention seeking keystone cops just espoused that No adult male could get through that very small window. And even Lou was also a big man. John had done that before when with Burke, but it didn't matter what Any of Ramseys said, the cops ignored them. People should pay attention to other that Lou said, even though he was disclosing a tiny part of what he knew about & that was way back at the time. Much more came to light later & down the years.

[@bethryan9077]

The intruders got in through the kitchen door & exited through the butler's kitchen door. You people should pay close Attention to what else Lou Smit had to say.

[@jeffreycompton7041]

They would have immediately searched the entire house, inside and out!!

[@bethryan9077]

What part of Ransom note do you Not understand?

[@tatiasresindesigns]

She died in that house, she was abused in that house. All the evidence points to them, their stories are faulty. They did it.

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Do you people Know that Colorado has the Death Penalty? Doh. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@tgWNN984]

You never check your home from top to bottom. In the files, it says no footprints in snow?

[@mandiemyers4423]

The fact that they have sit there and lied over and over and knows what happened to her is on another level of twisted and I don't think I could have been able to keep the charade going and how could you look at the person that kills your daughter and just let it go I hope she gets justice and peace

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. ** BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@steve5976]

Innocent , they wouldn’t be able to do these interviews

[@freddie3206]

@@steve5976 I THINK NOT. INNOCENT MY ASS.

[@debraharrison-hl9cz]

Mandie Myers So they lied over and over?. Why?. Because you say so?. The Ramseys spent a fortune on private investigators and others to search for JonBenet's killer. He still continues to this day to search for her killer. He currently has a petition with 25,000 signatures. He is trying to get the Boulder Police Department to release the DNA so it can be tested again.

[@SimpleLifeAlways81]

She takes pills to keep cool

[@KingBritish]

15:11 was looking there for glass because the window was broken? Yet its documented that he said he'd broken it himself months prior when he was locked out

[@sKid-zy1ss]

💯

[@sKid-zy1ss]

Yep he’s talking about that glass like he didn’t break it but like you said he said before he broke it. Nice catch

[@StardustSymphony4607]

Great catch!

[@KingBritish]

@@StardustSymphony4607 Thanks 👍🏻

[@bethryan9077]

John knew someone could get in that window as he had done in the summer. He saw the suitcase earlier that morning & was bothered by it being in that room plus it was under the window that appeared to not have been fixed. John knew a cop had been down there before him that morning & presumed the cop had checked out the window. He was to find out later that no cop had gone through the train room door & so to those windows. John had taken the suitcase down the basement weeks before but didn't put it in that room. He took Fleet White to show him the window & he told him how he had broken it in the summer when he locked himself out. They were both on the floor looking for any glass at all. They had checked out the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. Like many people do when relating events, one presumes the listener knows the back story.

[@irynasukhanova7439]

If Patsy would be alive, I would ask her just 2 simple questions. First - did she read ransom note? If yes, why did she call to police and to all friends, if in this ransom note was clear 100% - if they will call to police daughter will be killed. If you want to safe your child life - you will follow instructions, if you not follow instructions- or you want your be killed, or you want to cover crime what already happened.

[@bethryan9077]

Would You stand there & read all 3 pages? Or would You get to the part at near the beginning of the 1st page where it said -"we have your daughter" & race back upstairs Immediately to see if she was in her bed or not?

[@katieejeann2139]

Patsy said the truth is not frightening. Wouldn’t you be frightened if a stranger came into your home and brutally killed your precious daughter?

[@richteralyssa1]

What month and year did the Ramseys do this interview?

[@micenabled9418]

Lol the investigation grew tired of looking for a intruder that didn’t exist

[@bethryan9077]

Including those in charge, the 'investigators' were 7-8 cops who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. If the same thing happened to any relative of yours, how would You like them apples?

[@mmesser1733]

“We’ve been told” and the constant lip-licking 🤮

[@fayejordan175]

So what!!! That means nothing! John did not have anything to do with his child being murdered. People are so ridiculous in their reasoning!

[@nyasiia433]

@@fayejordan175 shut your bitch ass up you don’t even know if they did or not

[@berniekoblinsky103]

@@fayejordan175 agree. Phatsy killed her

[@fayejordan175]

@@berniekoblinsky103 Newsflash, she was not the one who murdered JonBenet. All the Ramseys were cleared by officials who knew facts of this case.

[@berniekoblinsky103]

@@fayejordan175 read up a little on this case. After the Governor interceded and pressured the DA’s office a Grand Jury was formed and they concluded the Ramseys should stand trial but the DA (Hunter) refused to bring them to trial. The Grand Jury conclusions were sealed for 15 years and only partially released even then. Just shows what money and privilege will get you into days society. Educate yourself. The case remains open.

[@sbcc3415]

When patsy was asked about her picture being on the cover of the book that her and John wrote and why she chose not to put her daughters her reaction was very interesting...she paused and looked a bit ruffled and said "this is OUR story i think this was the 10th book written we are the only ones that know what has happened to us since Jonbenet's death this is a story only we can tell" keyword to me "STORY". My question is so you make the murder of your daughter about YOU? It doesnt answer the main question. She completely deflected and didnt explain why she didnt put Jonbenet's picture on the cover instead. Jonbenet's the true victim here!!

[@bethryan9077]

And if Patsy did put her picture on the front, you ignorant banshees would be spouting the exact same crap.

[@PatriciaNIzzo]

Maybe they are covering for their son? I don't know.

[@Guerrero-f4b]

They do not show any concerns about their daughter , their appearance does not show that they are parents with pain .

[@briannotafan3368]

he describes basement window scene good cause of his poor attempt of arranging a crime scene he created

[@bethryan9077]

The perps Staged everything in that house, basement & some things outside. Do some actual Research, you just might find some True Facts

[@dishdog215]

Poor attempt...( You say)... Yet all these years later and he has never been caught... Shows what you know

[@bethryan9077]

John broke that window in the summer when he locked himself out of the house Brian. The housekeeper vacuumed up the glass Two Times. There was No Glass There on the morning of the 26th Brian. How did John 'arrange the crime scene there' when there was No Glass There Brian? Doh.

[@Scrappicat]

@@bethryan9077 Then why did he say he found the window broken and was looking for glass with his friend? He implies that the intruder broke it. Why would he change his story?

[@bethryan9077]

@@Scrappicat John didn't know that the window hadn't been fixed. How was he to know that an intruder hadn't broken it that morning? He & Fleet were on the floor looking for any glass at all. He did Not change his story at all.

[@janpalmer3025]

It was the nurse's husband who lived across the road, this makes sense to, the killers who lives across the road, watched John, drive his family out the driveway, then broke into the house, wrote the note after finding out information of his bonus, and planned on taking her, then realised it was too risky, so decided to not kill her but subdue her, keep her tied up in the basement, but Jon Benet injured the nurses husbands eyes, he lost control, and killed her, or she saw his face and recognised he was the Hispanic guy across the road, so the killer made sure she was dead, then still left the note, just Incase the ransom note worked, and they got away with it, until .. now.

[@newguest3588]

I always thought it was someone living close to the Ramsey's!

[@rodzwart6360]

Sorry John, but the GJ DID indict you. For covering up Burkes killing of JonBenet.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@Cupcakeprosup]

How can she casually talk about her daughter being murdered or him I’d be crying or hyperventilating

[@berniekoblinsky103]

Because she caused her death

[@bethryan9077]

@@berniekoblinsky103 This is the problem for soo many like Yourself - you don't know a damn thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - there is No 'intruder theory', It Is A Proven Fact. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down these threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

@@berniekoblinsky103 The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

a) obviously you have no idea how long after the murder when they did this interview b) obviously you have no idea how many times they had to Repeat what they wanted to say c) many people are brought up to behave with Dignity no matter the circumstances d) if they Had sat there crying & hyperventilating, you would spout the exact same Shite about them e) go watch some other true crime shows, Lots of people can talk about their loved ones without carrying on how You want them to. Doh.

[@berniekoblinsky103]

Phatsy killed her daughter. John is complicit. Beth Ryan is a lunatic.

[@JM-uu6ch]

So strange to me that Patsy in the first interview hasn't seen the autopsy report yet she knows that the police report said "footprints in the snow" and not just footprints...also how have you "not" seen the autopsy report of your deceased daughter?? Was she not interested in finding out how she died? Or did she not bother to see it because she already knew? Very peculiar. These two make my blood BOIL if you listen to what they say carefully and knowing what we know today it just angers me the way John challenges the police and blaming them for everything. The police are by law supposed to eliminate all suspects and if the parents were suspects it's their JOB to!! But rather then be eliminated so that they can move on john and patsy lawyer up and don't comply??? What is that!! Someone said he went out to get post the first thing he defends when asked this question is that there isn't a postbox outside but a slot in the door, like wtf why does it matter where you got the post, fact is you read post and someone found it strange given the circumstances. Linda was 1 woman alone with all your little party buddies (9 of them) trying to control what happens in each separate room of the home, how can she be given such grieve over this shit. How must she be in 3 places at once to control what everyone is doing in defferent areas of the home. It's absolutely pathetic man, she had no chance from the get go. Unless john is part of it I don't understand to this day how he can still be so blind to patsy. Go and look up the dirt on that woman, she put up this happy american family front but behind closed doors it seems it was everything but. She was obviously obsessed with the movie "The prime of miss brodie"(something like that) and she played it out in her own lifestyle. There is even a pic of her with glasses biting a cross/rosery suggesting she is sexualising the cross. I don't think she was ALL THERE if you get my point. If she was suffering from psychosis she obviously won't remember how she committed the crime hence all the changing stories etc. Back in those days mental illness wasn't a big deal like it is today, it wouldn't surprise me if she didn't even know she had it. I mean with all the evedince out there, fingerprints, dna, even the body itself and no has has solved it, we've ling passed old technology regarding dns, we're in 2022 and yet nothing. To me that suggests that the murderer is not even on earth anymore and whomever else knows what happened is taking it to the grave too. The injustices for this poor child is beyond me. It saddens me deeply that the only voice Jonbenet now has are those of the KZbin community who tries ,to this day, to find the answers her parents never even tought of

[@bethryan9077]

You're just another Ramsey hater who knows Nothing about the crime & even Less about the case. You don't even know what Actually happened to JB & get off on spreading more Lies about this Proven Innocent family.

[@bethryan9077]

omg, the Media Printed about - 'no footprints in the snow'. The Cops were made to Publicly Apologise for Telling the media that, but the damage was done. In fact - it didn't even snow that night & that was old snow at the front Only. There was frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up. Darl, you like soo many others, don't know anything 'today', nothings changed - too many hateful & gullible people posting so much Shite because you Choose to believe Whatever, as long as it's Against the Ramseys. They were Proven Innocent a Long time ago.

[@JM-uu6ch]

@@bethryan9077 yeah to each his own. Move tf on✌

[@bethryan9077]

@@JM-uu6ch Why don't You sftu with all your Ignorant Rubbish BTW - John said what he did about the post because he was Accused of leaving the house to go get the mail. It was John Fernie who left for a while in relation to a second lot of the cash. It was the Cops who should have thought about a contact through the Mail but Useless Arndt brought up about John reading his mail in that BS interview she did for TV. John has the Right to defend himself. FYI - there were only Five friends at the house, the Whites & the Fernies & it was John Fernie who called their pastor. The Cops called 2 victims advocates to come. All sat in the sunroom & the den. Linda was only alone for less than 2 & a half hours In Fact. She & the cops are more than happy for the public to Believe she was on her own, poor Linda. She didn't even get there til 8.10 a.m. & she arrived with detective Patterson. To say that Patsy was sexualising the cross just says a whole lot about You. Patsy didn't do a damn thing & they did Not change their stories. It was the keystone cops who couldn't write down correct info in their reports that they did Later. They couldn't even write the Correct colour shirt JB was found in. The case Has been solved deary, it's because of all those like Yourself as to why nothing has been announced yet til the arrest of the one who was 17 at the time. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. Linda Arndt wrote a favourable report about the Ramseys to the BPD & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch & it was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. It was the Cops, at the house early that morning who should have found JB, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD were ducking & weaving to save their Own asses. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. She tried to sue the BPD for Money , but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. She knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer of their precious child. None of you Daft 'Utubers' were Present in the Ramseys lives at Any stage & you sure sure Weren't at the house At Any time. Get this Very clear - You people Do Not Know Better than some of the best investigators in the country or the expert crime scene techs or the top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge Or the Boulder PD, who have Stated for Many Years that the Ramseys Are Innocent

[@sfletch3042]

I'm not saying they're innocent bc I don't know what happened. However it is not difficult to understand why a parent wouldn't want to read a damn autopsy report. Smh. And you can be told key pieces of info and know cause of death etc without actually reading all the horrific details yourself.

[@AvnueC]

31:40 OOPS! Freudian Slip…. It was written to disguise OOPS attempt to disguise the handwriting. And “emotional climax”…. What an interesting choice of words to use. I saw some duper’s delight as well.

[@Goldi3loxrox]

This small foreign faction did not last for long I have never heard of any other criminal faction signing off SBTC before or since. Any Ex members must know something Maybe the FBI could put out a reward for ex members of this faction for information. Is it because they never existed perhaps ?

[@bethryan9077]

This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead, due to the fact that you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & post that as if facts. The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement did deal with Case Evidence, which Included the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, witness statements, the full video & transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole house, being all 4 storeys & so on. All is In Evidence & online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case - Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. Reddit & the videos are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, the Same false & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for nearly 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they keep at it because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. The other part, then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid.

[@rileycoyote8275]

​@@bethryan9077 Shut up Beth

[@bethryan9077]

So, BTK signed off with BTK, when did the cops find out what that Meant?

[@shrutit.a1034]

He said, they looked for glass, coz the window was broken... But in many other times, we heard, john only broken that was window few months back...!! Then y he saying , he n his friend searching for glass....!!?? Its such a important point...!!!

[@bethryan9077]

Yeah, the window hadn't been fixed & it was obvious that the glass from Before had been picked up, vacuumed up actually & 2 times by the housekeeper back then, so, the perps could have got in there, he was checking for glass on the floor. And?

[@Goldi3loxrox]

If the kidnapper was intending to put JB in the suite case to get her out through the window They couldn't have again used it to help climb out themselves It dosnt work. So How then were they going to get JB out through the window ?

[@Teenagebeluga]

These are actually good questions the press is asking

[@systemspm8055]

Ok guys - the ransom note was written with pen and paper found AT the Ramsey house. The killer knew they would find pen and paper at the victims house? They came up with the idea there?? Then they write up a 3 page hand written ransom letter FROM INSIDE THE VICTIMS HOUSE?? Absolutely insane! THEN Jonbenets dead body is just found that same day inside the residence The killer made their way through an unfamiliar house at night and managed to incapacitate and abduct and carry a child to a basement with the parents in the house So much more to say about this case and so many questions

[@amandanegrete1306]

There is no way to know where the note was written. There were MANY people who had full access to the Ramsey’s house over the Christmas holiday. There were people who worked for the Ramsey’s in their home like the housekeeper and her boyfriend. I am not saying the housekeeper is responsible just using her as an example. The housekeeper could have easily taken the notepad and the sharpie from the Ramsey home. She may have had a boyfriend or lover that was a predator. Maybe the housekeeper thought she was taking part in a crime for financial profit. Her intent may have been to assist in getting ransom money and the person/people she was involved with murdered JonBenet. The housekeeper wasn’t the only person with that kind of access to the Ramsey’s. That leaves a lot of room for reasonable doubt in my opinion.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@systemspm8055]

@@amandanegrete1306 fair enough. Some reasonable ideas there. A really crazy and intriguing case indeed

[@alikarol3]

​@@amandanegrete1306 actually there is. The notepad that was found at the Ramseys had drafts of the ransom note written inside of it. I suggest you research more about the case before you make your opinions. The ransom note was 100% written in the house with the notepad and exact pen found. The "intruder" even wrote drafts of the note before perfecting it.