A Game Changer or Too Predictable? Ciri is the Witcher!

[@morganlefaye6445]

"There aare no gods, only monsters" true in so many ways. I loved the trailer and I'm fine with Ciri as the protagonist and I can't wait to be back in the world of monsters.

[@ImpGoose]

Yaaaay! There are so many things we can hype about 🥳 Firstly, the devs said in one of the interviews that "few years passed" not a decade or more. It means that almost everyone is alive including mere humans like Dandelion 🔥🤟🏻

[@9.oIN0]

I think Ciri's a really organic choice for a protagonist and I'm honestly digging it. Really curious about how they'll incorporate her elder blood and the whole trial of the grasses situation into the plot :D

[@ImpGoose]

This is really interesting! She'll have a unique storyline considering her baggage haha. Also, I'm so happy that they are introducing new monsters from Slavic folklore

[@9.oIN0]

​@@ImpGooseTrue! I couldn't be happier as a Pole who's into folklore and mythology

[@ImpGoose]

@@9.oIN0 can't wait to discuss the future folklore with you then!!! It will be awesome!

[@ZrodyApo]

Since we already guess she used the school of the cat version of the trial as women were known to be able to be witchers through it (and most likely why the witchers from that school are so unstable 🤔), she dealt with them in the past and carried a cat medallion for years. Also, the school of the cat fighting style suits her a lot and she can adapt and/or use some school of the wolf tricks that Geralt have taught her. My main question is why did she undergo the trial of grass in the first place? Maybe it was to temper her elder blood powers that we know may go out of control. And Yennefer & Phillipa also made sure that she knows about magic & spells. Honestly there are so many interesting elements to have Ciri as the protag, I'm hoping everything is thouroughly explained 😺

[@tj3603]

I am moderately hyped, because when it comes to story CDPR never disappointed me, but expect this game maybe in 5-6 years. Long time to wait.

[@ImpGoose]

True 😅 Still, there's hope that it will be less than 5. Maybe 2 because almost everyone is working on it now

[@tj3603]

@@ImpGoose I'll be happy to be proven wrong and get it sooner. But with scale and attention to details they usually put into their games I wouldn't expect it in near future. It's very hard and time consuming process. Considering their less than pleasant experience with launch of CP2077 which cost them shit ton of money when stock price plummeted to abyss and required several years of reputation laundering, I think with next title they will be very careful, testing and polishing it to death, and it will take a while.

[@chocolate3407]

I love the idea of playing as Ciri, and the vibe is so much like Claymore! Love it!

[@ImpGoose]

Ciri will be an interesting protagonist to play!

[@ignorethisnameplease2566]

I enjoyed playing as Ciri in Witcher 3, but I would have wanted something entirely new. My other main gripe is that the VA seems to have changed and is no longer Jo Wyatt, my favorite VA of all time Q.Q

[@minerva7726]

Hello, my old friend. I’m so glad to see you featuring more diverse games in the content you’re creating. The trailer truly got me excited, so I immediately checked out your channel. How wonderful to see you’ve already shared a video on this topic. Once again, it’s a great review

[@ImpGoose]

Hello, my dear! It's been a while 🔥🤟🏼 Thanks for stopping by. The channel is on the bumpy road as KZbin keeps pushing DAV videos even though I posted content about other games, so it's like turbulence but we will be okay. It's amazing that you are excited! The trailer was fantastic 🥳 Can't wait to learn more about Ciri and her journey or new monsters.

[@jamescolver4674]

I liked playing as Ciri. Adds a different dimension to the Witcher 3. Right now , I can't remember if she lost her powers when the game ended. In my 2 playthroughs, Ciri became a Witcher.

[@ImpGoose]

My dear friend, there's so much to explore and talk about that it makes me dance a little haha. Playing as Ciri was a bit awkward at first but she had her fun moments that made it enjoyable. I think we will not have teleporting ability just because she can do something much more extraordinary now OR she will have a combo...something like a silver chain grapple with a quick teleportation back and forth to tie up the monster. This lady will surprise us, no doubt.

[@harveysidhu7030]

Actually, I wasn't expecting them to do Ciri due to the nature of her endings but then at the same time expecting them to do it. I hope they will be able to reconcile them in a satisfying way. What I was thinking is that you choose which ending is canon and then the prologue is different depending on which ending you choose and then there is a common juncture which then starts the game's story, so kinda similar to Cyberpunk. My ideal choice however would've been 2 protagonists a witcher and a sorceress and she flings spells at a distance while he pummels the monsters. Then for conversations she can be the seductive one charming people with spells/her personality and he can be the more direct/blunt one who can intimidate. They could be a complementary pair. I will remain cautious and skeptical until we see more though. Honk!

[@stefankatsarov5806]

Well they didnt reconsile anything from witcher 2 to witcher 3. What ever you do Radovid still goes and hunts all mages, Sascia vanishes and Nilfguard takes over most of the north.

[@ImpGoose]

Honestly, I think that there might be a prologue with such an outcome. It would be great if they chose to do it but we shall see how it turns out eventually. Considering Ciri's psychological and behavioral patterns, her becoming a Witcher is the only outcome that has something close to a happy ending. It fits her character arc even if a player chose her becoming an empress. She would probably escape after a while and disappear into the woods haha

[@Ponder557]

I wish the villager could have been saved. I always liked the scene in the first Witcher game where you can protect the witch if you want. This trailer gives me those vibes, just so much darker. Did Ciri lose her Rift power?

[@ImpGoose]

They said in one of their interviews that this is a part of a quest and we will meet these NPCs. So, the scene is playable and you can save the girl. When it comes to Ciri's powers, I guess they might have removed it from the combat sequence. She will be able to do more cool stuff by combining the witcher technique with her magic!

[@jessethegamerharris3454]

First time announcement in 2022 I already knew ciri be protagonist in the witcher 4

[@Turin_Inquisitor]

rolling our own witcher character and going through the training and Trials at a School is still my dream. also Ciri is not even nearly a half-elf. she carries the important Lara Dorren genes but otherwise her elfness is so diluted that Auberon Muircetach couldn't even get it up for her. and as it turned out Avallac'h found her ugly too by aen elle standards.

[@ImpGoose]

What's your point? That the protagonist is ugly because Avallach thought she wasn't elfy enough? And it makes you...feel something? Walk me through your decision making process please

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

This is like saying having Geralt in The Witcher 3 was too predictable. Ciri in The Witcher 4 is perfection and what it should be. Who else if not her or Geralt. No one. That’s Witcher for me. These two. Stories around them is what it’s all about and exciting for me. Together with the rest of the great supporting cast.

[@davidradach9311]

Probably a long-winded text, fair warning. I have strongly mixed feelings about our friend Ciri here. On one hand, I absolutely love Ciri. I played The Witcher III before I read the books, in fact that game prompted me to read them all, from The Last Wish to Season of Storms. But. By the end of the game, different players had different things happen to her. For example, in my brother’s playthrough she became Empress of Nilfgaard, and in mine she became a Witcher. The trailer makes sense for people like me, but for people like my brother? If Ciri’s the protagonist, this needs to be taken into account. I’m also wondering about the gameplay balance. Witchers are badass on their own, but Ciri’s also a Source. Would this make her omnipotent? And finally, real world drama. There are two “consultant” groups involved in gaming to our detriment, The Powell Group and Sweet Baby, Inc. They basically amount to a blackmailing campaign: pay them a ridiculous amount of money to come in and make the game as ‘inclusive’ and ‘inoffensive’ as they can, or they’ll review bomb you. SBI tried getting their meat hooks into Black Myth Wukong. My ultimate point with this is that these guys have been slinking around CD Projekt Red and this game. I’m beyond sick and tired of politics, all of it. I’m just looking for some honest to God escapism, dammit! 😂 All jokes aside, I’ll absolutely keep an open mind. But I don’t want to play another Veilguard. I’m going to be extremely skeptical going into this game.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

I am sharing your opinion. There have been rumours that the incompetent "woke" people have taken over CDPR from some time now. I hope it isnt true but we shall see especially whit a woman main character. ( They love them and yet they cant make them good ). Ciri cant become omnipotent since that means you know everything all the time, thats literally reserved for gods ( very few in fact ).

[@ImpGoose]

I understand the concerns. However many of these things are spoken only from one perspective. Alan Wake and God of War Ragnarok had Baby inc. involvement. These games are good. So, the blame is on management that makes a decision to twist the franchise. As many of us think, CDPR games have always been great no matter the bumps on the road. If I'm mistaken with this one, well, there'll be a huge analytical review once again haha. No matter the ending, Ciri becoming a Witcher is a lore accurate outcome due to her character arc and to her behavioral patterns. As one of the people here said, having a different prologue would work brilliantly in this case. We shall see how the devs will resolve this issue. Still, if you remember the books (the saga and not the short stories), Ciri has always been the central figure. Her pov has more pages than Geralt's. She has been on the run for all her life. Empress or not, she would eventually strive for a life on the road because of the traumas of her childhood... unless Nilfgaard had a shrink who fixed her well to be a ruler till her death bed haha

[@davidradach9311]

@ Alan Wake had SBI involvement? I didn’t know that! That’s a valid point on Ciri as well! As much as I like Geralt, much of the events of the books are directly or indirectly related to her. Certainly the most interesting parts (‘Get away from me, you corpses!’ ‘Yes, we are corpses. But you are death.’). And, CDPR has been improving Cyberpunk 2077 far beyond my expectations. I may not have it in me to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I’m certainly willing to give them a chance. I certainly can’t speak for anyone else, but I’ll definitely admit to being a little burned thanks to Veilguard, but that does go to your point regarding poor management. They had 10 years, even with development hell. And DA/BioWare fans really vocal about what they like to see. And they made wrong decisions at every turn, probably to just finish the game to move on to Mass Effect. At this point I’m perfectly happy with doing a little retro gaming (I cut my teeth on Zelda and the Castlevania series, and they’re still fun to play all these years later!). But one day, I’ll be back to looking for new experiences. The Witcher 4 is definitely a game I’m looking at right now.

[@TyrbeTrost]

I'm glad the dark tone remains intact in this game, or at least judging from this trailer. I am hoping and expecting to see Geralt again and maybe even play as him like we played as Ciri for a little while in Witcher 3. I mean, playing as Ciri in Witcher 4 was as expected and I think Witcher 3 did a good job of setting her up as the next protagonist. CDPR is sending out some weird signals the last few years however, and I'm a bit worried what happens to Geralt. He is their poster child so I don't really think they're going to do anything as stupid as TLOU2 did with Joel, but I would not be surprised if they did either.

[@Unworshipediety]

I kind of preferred her from the start, but that's just me, I usually create a female protagonist if given a choice. But I've always wanted to create my own character for those games. What kept me away from them for so long is I just didn't want to be Geralt! He's a cool guy, but I just didn't like being locked in. I think I finally gave Witcher a try once I saw a couple of episodes of the show. Then that's when it started to play and actually enjoyed myself quite a bit. I usually stay away from games where you have to be a named protagonist, obviously, there are some exceptions, Kratos & Lara Croft to name a few but overall for games, I find I have the most fun if the illusion of choice is there and somewhat convincing.

[@valp3466]

I think those who aren't happy about Ciri is just because they don't feel like playing as a woman... which is very predictable in a still very mysoginist world...

[@stefankatsarov5806]

More than 90% of male gamers play as females in games if given the choice.

[@mduckernz]

@@stefankatsarov5806Huh? That can’t possibly be accurate based off purely the Mass Effect stats alone. FemShep is for sure popular, but MaleSheo is still more popular, and more men than women played Mass Effect. Soooo? (however, I personally do play as female characters more often if I have the choice. It’s more interesting to me, since I spend all day being male otherwise, and I like novelty)

[@amitansurkar1769]

People. Kinda already knew, ciri would ne the next protagonist, but it wasn't too predictable tho

[@ZaricheYruga]

Told u

[@ImpGoose]

Alright, alright haha

[@ZaricheYruga]

@@ImpGoose they gave many interviews story takes place few years after TW3 so she is a bit older and far more powerful than Geralt was expected to expand the story after TW3 like this cannot wait even if might be 2026-2027

[@shellsmith831]

I never enjoyed playing as her during the other game. I'd rather play as my own character.

[@joewatts9132]

same here.

[@hugofourie1193]

Agreed. Huge missed opportunity

[@hern7213]

Exactly this!

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

Play Cyberpunk and all the other games no one remembers the protagonists of.

[@SgtHodl]

W4 protagonist should've been Eskel he's alive in all W3 endings also Geralt & Yen would NEVER let Ciri do the trial or fight monsters without OP elder blood powers. The Ciri "Witcher" ending ONLY is logical bc Ciri had mastered space time pwrs she's WAY more powerful than Geralt & freaking defeated the White Frost 😳 that's the ONLY way you let ur daughter hunt monsters & even then its a pretty illogical ending for Geralt & Yen.

[@serrasedai]

A big part of Ciri's journey in W3 is to be her own person; if you don't support her independence, you get the tragic ending. So it fits that if she wanted to undergo trials and changes to be a Witcher, it wouldn't be up to Yen or Geralt. Ciri would choose it for herself as an adult and make it happen.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

​@@serrasedai Well Ciri has aways just been herself, no mather what you say.

[@serrasedai]

@@stefankatsarov5806 What do you mean? I agree she is herself

[@spellandshield]

What is the point of mutating her though? Just so they can shoehorn in a female witcher and come up with some retcon in order to justify it? It really smacks of lack of imagination and probably is ideologically driven.

[@jaffacake1881]

How is it a shoehorn if the fan favorite ending of the last game was setting her up to be a Witcher? But go on, cry about how much you despise it for being ideologically driven... while literally being so ideologically driven you can't cope with a female protagonist.

[@spellandshield]

@@jaffacake1881 I literally play female protagonists most of the time. What are you on about? Can you explain how she survived the Trial of the Grasses a process that had been lost to time? Geralt would have never approved of her undergoing a ritual that would kill her for basically nothing, neither would Yennifer. This is pure retcon. I know some people don't care about lore but some of us actually do and want the fictional settings people create to make sense and he coherent but hey I guess there were always female witchers and we just never heard about them...

[@stefankatsarov5806]

​@@jaffacake1881over 90% of male gamers play whit female protagonists if given the choice. So dont put that bs here. It is stated in the lore that you have to be male and a young one in fact ( under 10 ) to be able to do the trial.

[@floortank349]

​​​@@jaffacake1881 i always thought that Ciri becoming a witcher was more about the training, knowlegde and wisdom she gained when growing up. Not just becoming like another "normal" witcher similar to Geralt and all the other. The fact that Ciri didn't want or can't become like Geralt made things interesting and challenged what being a witcher truly was. But if she's like a "normal" witcher now, it was kinda pointless. We got back to square one.

[@justaquietpeacfuldance]

CDPR KNOWS deep down, along with the fans that it's not about any lore breaking or anything like that... That can be "explained" at least well enough that most gamers will swallow the pill. The reason why Ciri will suck as a Witcher is that you cannot tell a story about masculinity, being isolated, shunned by society and stoicism with a pretty looking female as a lead in this setting. Those are overarching topics of the books AND games and you as a fan think that's all by accident? That they just forgot to mention the fact that women can become witchers too? That it just slipped the author's mind throughout all the books and hundereds of hours of play and now you can now exploit that mistake? It's so obviously fake that CDPR even tries to convince us, that because they perhaps are fighting some norms, standards. When in reality they just want an easy brand recognition and a protag with cooch and _white hair_ on the cover. And who's sexist now?