A2 compliant VS. Restricted on A2 Motorcycle Licence?

One question I get asked a lot is "Should I go for an A2 compliant motorcycle or a motorcycle that has been restricted for the A2 motorcycle license. Clearly, most of this is a personal choice and needs however there are a few things to be said.
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#Motorcycles #Restricted #A2bikelicence

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

If you stare too long at your restrictor, eventually the restrictor stares back...

[@ghost.97]

Sometimes it even disappears for a day or two 🤯

[@brutusthebuttress1476]

😂😂😂😂

[@Jay0B938]

@@ghost.97 and never returns

[@vloat8017]

@@Jay0B938 😂😂🤣🤣

[@cadmcspeed1418]

Back in the day I passed on a 125 when I was 18. The test was super easy( just a bloke with a clip board who observed me for about 3 circuits of a 4 right hand turns) already had my vmax in the garage. Increased my bhp by about 140 overnight. I respected the bike and took my time getting used to it. You have the perfect restricter at all times in your right hand. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Never had a crash in 40 years.(touch wood)

[@natkobratko3198]

Never crashed in 40years?? Wow i mean u might be going to slow

[@corbkuroski1558]

Turtle and snail race more like Jokes aside nice road safety

[@TRTJoshua]

I've recently been through this myself. I passed my A2 in 2017 and I purchased a 1991 Honda VFR400 I used that bike for 3 years and had a blast. Then at the start of lockdown I purchased a 2017 Yamaha XSR700 and had it restricted via throttle plate. This was great as the CP2 engine in the XSR and MT07 makes most of its grunt at 5k which you can easily get too fast with a throttle plate installed. But the main reason for purchasing this bike was so that when I passed my full license I could take the plate out and experience full power. Because of COVID etc. I couldn't find a riding school that had time and was the right price so... I just booked the tests myself. Whacked some L plates on my own bike and when I arrived at the test centre I removed the restrictor held in with two TR7 bolts. Easy once you've done it before. Which brings us to now... I have passed my tests and have a full A license. the plan was to remove the restrictor and keep riding it.... But one thing lead to another and I have part chopped it for another bike with slightly more power. My main point in writing this is the restricted bike ended up being a super great A2 bike but also allowed me to take my tests on the bike. This saved me a lot of money and time as I booked both my tests within the week and it cost less than £100 all in. A riding school would have wanted much more as they have overheads etc. So like Spicy has said here... If you're planning to upgrade as soon as you can and you're confident in doing the tests without any training. Then its definitely worth looking into restricting a bigger bike. Sorry its a bit long winded but wanted to share my experience... Hope it helps other young riders :)

[@125ZJK]

right , the XADV 750 it shall be. Thanks for the info :)

[@aarontaylor2815]

Spicy your a living legend my friend. Not long now before you get that 100,000 play button 😁

[@kaiyao2766]

I heard shipping can take ages, haha! But spicy will get one soon enough, I am confident.

[@sredding0]

All the videos were a huge help to me. Passed my MOD2 on Tuesday and your videos helped me understand what all the test were about. Thanks for your help 👍 collected my bike a Thursday night just need some decent weather!

[@josbikelife_5643]

Personally I went down the restricted route. The way I saw it was like getting 2 bikes in 1, and if you think about it that makes sense.!

[@rifle]

Can I ask what you went for? I'm thinking of the same route when I get my licence, so when I hit 24 I'm not buying a whole new bike for more power

[@josbikelife_5643]

Went for the Honda CBR 650R. My favourite bike so far! Can't go wrong with one of those.

[@rifle]

@@josbikelife_5643 Nice choice! What type of restriction did you go for? As I understand there are a few ways of going about it?

[@josbikelife_5643]

Mine was restricted at the dealer. As far as I know it was and ECU restriction + inlet trumpets (I still have the A2 inlets, somewhere in the garage)

[@AhmedKhan-iy6ud]

@@josbikelife_5643 how do you derestrict it, how much would it cost?

[@Lcatton06]

Your timing with these videos is amazing

[@jamesthenakedsnake7480]

My addition to this is that if your that undecided on essentially BHP, then you may as well forget if it's naturally A2, or can be restricted to A2 and look at more useful things such as a bikes features, style, insurance groups, cost, fuel economy, servicing costs/ease, comfort. Realistically unless your on track it doesn't really matter if you've got 33BHP or 73BHP so look at your goal in the next few years and what other things you want from a bike more than BHP. Besides that torque is more fun.

[@HaloXIIII]

Its an interesting topic because I was looking at an mt03 when I got my a2 bike but I stuck with a 125 for a year then I actually got an sv650 with a restrictor kit and honestly its been the best decision I've made even though its restricted its a brilliant bike with a fantastic engine! I take it to north wales and back to the south coast for uni and it copes with the motor ways beautifully and its also fun in the twisties it almost the perfect bike for me despite the restrictor which will hopefully be off soon!

[@stupewpew8295]

Your vid’s are so good, I’m older at 44 but watching your vids convinced me to get my CBT and a Lexmoto LXS on order (it’s no Yamaha I know) but you got me out on 2 wheels!! 🏍. So thank you

[@ozzyprogdomino8815]

Back when I did my test, if you passed on a 125 you were restricted to a 33BHP bike for two years, then without doing another test after two years you got a full A license. I did this and bought for my first big bike a Kawasaki zxr400 it had to be restricted to 33BHP as it's natural power was 62BHP, After two year I was able to remove the restriction,. what was great with doing that was I got a much more powerful bike which I knew all about and was comfortable with. I loved that bike and had no desire to change it and kept it until I found out I was pregnant with my daughter. That was the end of my motorcycling adventure for 20 years. Just getting back to it riding again and just purchased a new Kawasaki Z400 A2 compatable bike, really looking forwarrd to getting it. It is not as powerful as the ZXR400 but I think it will be more than enough for this born again biker

[@bob-ds5eb]

Very useful. Passed my A2 in December 22 at the age of 59. Currently have an A2 CB300F which I love but get battered on motorways. Have been considering a CB650F with an A2 restriction to make motorways a little more forgiving. I think you’ve answered my question.

[@quetzalcoa]

Why didn't you just do the full A license?

[@mikewynne6549]

A lot of fun can be on lower powered bikes, as there a lot more forgiving if you mess up, especially getting a track bike. 300-500 cc allows you to learn more about riding and control.

[@gerardmontgomery280]

One thing I've noticed is that 2nd hand A2 specific bikes like the CBR500 and Duke 390 seem to really hold their resale value if they haven't been hooned or modified. A 2nd hand CBR600/650 will probably be cheaper if you're on a budget, and it can be derestricted some time down the line.

[@chubz01]

Wait,so I can still buy a CBR 600RR with 120hp and make it A2 compliant?? Legally? I couldnt find it anywhere saying that was legal.

[@TepXSW]

​@@chubz01you can restrict it only if it has less than 90hp above 90hp you can't

[@marcusvalentin5485]

mt07

[@steersy3420]

Spot on advice spicy 😁 loads of younger riders asking about what bike ect on fb right now, gonna share the shit outta this.

[@woodywood3388]

Assuming budget is an issue for most people, the smart move is to buy a restricted bike that you can open up once you pass your test. Buying a compliant bike will inevitably lead to power envy, and an unhealthy compulsion to flip bikes once you‘ve passed your test. Triumph sell restrictable, bike, as do Yamaha, Honda, and many more.

[@AmamMcMam]

I had my XJ6n restricted which was basically a plate that prevented the throttle cable from being fully activated (basically half throttle). I remember everyone said to just take it off because the police wouldn't know but my self conscious told me not too haha. When I passed my full licence my first order of business was removing the restrictor and I don't mean to emphasise but it was a rocket ship! I still have it, plenty of power throughout the rev range and has never let me down!

[@alswh33ls56]

Thank you for another informative video spicy please keep them coming take care look forward to the next one.. and good luck on the 💯 k

[@weatheredmess7300]

Really needed this video, as someone who has had a hiatus from motorcycle fandom I have now reached a point where I'm thinking about it again. I'm currently 21 and looking to do my car license first so I can get into the police, then I'm thinking to either: Wait till I'm 24 do my full license and buy an 'a2 bike' for a little while to get my no claims so I dont pay £10k a year insurance for my dream bike (BMW RnineT). Or Do my A2 before being 24 and see where that takes me. I'd love to see what everyone thinks of this and id like to see their insight.

[@jshadie]

For people asking why you'd ride an A2 compliant bike after sitting a full A license... The tests are the same, the difference is in the power of the bike on which you sit the test. If you can take the bigger test, it's an advantage as you won't then have to retake it later, when you move up in engine size. You also get the freedom of choice, I'm currently waiting on a test which I'm sitting on an MT-07. I could sit the test on a 500cc Honda, as I intend on getting a 471cc Rebel when I pass my test, but having the option to get an MT-07, a Rebel 1100, a Harley Davidson or anything else larger is the same price right now for my test, and saves me paying again later for a larger engine test when I decide I'm ready for a bigger bike.

[@banzabreizdude]

Very good video, my thought is that when you buy a bike restricted with a2, you need to carry the weight, the consumption, and the size of a non-a2 bike, without full potential. I personnaly prefer to get a bike that is specifficaly engenered FOR a2 and then i use it 100% for 2y minimum and pass full a whenever i want and then buy another bike, get you more different experience in the end :)

[@Markycarandbikestuff]

Cool 57 Chevy at 4:19 : ), when i did my DAS i asked for an A2 as mistakenly i thought it would be cheaper and easier than the A license, thought an A2 was all i'd need, was amazed to find they are the exact same tests, so you are not really being trained to ride a more powerful machine, it's just a rip off. That said our system is still better than America, their MSF (which is not even compulsory) is little more than our CBT.

[@maskedavenger2578]

In my day you either had a full motorcycle licence or you had a provisional & could ride a 250 cc capable of any speed .A 500cc would be classed as a top end of the mid range & certainly not a learner bike ,anything like a 650 - 900 cc would be classed as a large or super bike .These days it seems to be assumed if your not riding a large capacity cc bike your only an A2 licence holder .The way I see it you ride the bike that meets your needs .I ride 125 s or large capacity bikes depending on use .My younger sister passed her full motorcycle test in her mid 30’s ,she said I have got to get a 1200 I said why you don’t need it ,the 600 version has more power than needed on U.K. roads .She says oh but it’s a must when you have passed your test .I find this is the mentality these days in motorcycling .You don’t see car drivers saying you have to buy a powerful sports car to justify passing their test .No wonder governments see motorcycling as a past time hobby & not as transport & insurance company’s hike up the motorcycle insurance fees .Let’s face it the Honda twin 500cc has more than enough power for uK roads & to get you out of trouble on motorways no one really needs bigger than a 600 unless they are a big pie eater hauling around loads of gear or traveling two up touring the continent .The best way to get a good grounding in motorcycling is to start on a small bike & gradually work up to a larger one in stages ,they make the best all round riders .

[@CallumDR14]

Passed my A2 this year and the bike I have is at the very top of the of the power that I am allowed and you honestly don’t need anymore than that for the road. Still annoyed I have to do another test in two years if I want to progress to bigger…

[@Handleyocandleghee]

Nice one bro the uk bike laws are nuts

[@RevBombUK]

Good points buddy, Not long till the big 100k you bloody deserve it I still remember taking my test back at 17 in the old days and going straight to a zx9r then a z1300 thank god cbt came in cos most 17-18 year olds were killing themselves jumping straight to a big bike with unlimited hp Will come down and visit when all the lockdown is over

[@SweeneyTTodd]

After many years of riding and many bikes , i'm missing the lower powered bikes , thinking of adding one to my garage they are so much fun .

[@tomlucas4866]

Restricted is the way forward, you get a way better equipped bike eg, abs, twin disk etc for less money than the newer A2 compliant, the unlocking of nearly 50% of the bike capacity when you get your A and a banging commuter bike when you get a 1000cc after the A

[@Aaron70235]

Less money? You can get any of the 2014+ Honda 500 twins for about £3500. If you want something of similar age with more power you're going to be paying a lot more than that.

[@tomlucas4866]

@@Aaron70235 I got my 13 plate XJ6 for 2k which unrestricted has nearly double the power of those twins

[@A_S_100]

When I got my A2 licence I rode a 1990 Honda BROS 400 PGM. It had only 33bhp but it was fast enough for round the town, could do 50mph all day and could somehow do 140km/h (87mph) without too much difficulty on the motorway. I've got a CBF600 now to upgrade my licence on but to be honest I wouldn't need much more in terms of power.

[@Rok1_2003]

Thanks mate usefull information

[@Tylerjrb]

Depends on what you want really. I’d say A2 compliant bike just because they are generally newer and lighter and will have more features. Plus there’s always that niggling in the back of everyone’s head to take the restrictor off which is what I did on my 600. On the full A now though luckily ;).

[@wiktormajta6974]

got a A2 restricted R6 in Germany, full German TUV paperwork stating 35kw, now registered it in Poland as 35kw ready to ride in the summer

[@eclipsegfxable]

BS

[@AlexDjalo]

I'm on a A2 rn I had a sv650 until I got into a accident in January. I rode it a few times without the ecu restrictor and the only thing I noticed was that it accelerated slower other then that top speed was some what the same. Considering getting another sv or the xsr700 but personally I'd get a restricted bike because then you have a somewhat of a new feeling bike

[@keyganversfeld6124]

For anyone who might be getting a suzuki a2 restricted bike, currently I have been waiting over 4 weeks to recieve my v-strom 650 xt. This is because of the new E5 standards which means the old way of restricting the bike has gone out the window, where its a whole new system in place. The dealership has told me multiple times that they are the first suzuki dealership in England to try this out and have let me down 4 times about when the bike will be ready. I hope this might help anyone who might be purchasing a suzuki that needs restricting, that you will have to wait at this moment of time (24/07/21).

[@spicy110]

This seems to be happening a lot atm Honda have had problems getting bikes to people leaving many waiting months after the date they should have got the bike.

[@keyganversfeld6124]

@@spicy110 I really hope that this can be resolved soon. 4 weeks has felt like forever for me, but to the ppl who have waited for way longer I respect. If the dealership give me another false finish time I might just have to let it go. I'm glad I went with PX than to sell it myself, because I would have been without transport.

[@3GingerCats]

In New Zealand, we have rules that state 660cc or less, restricted to 47hp... for learners, once you have your full licence. what you decide to get is up to you. Would I buy an SV650 with a restricted engine, and then pay to get the full power unlocked later? I thought about it, I thought really hard about it. The bike itself feels great, it looks great, and it's a bike worth keeping! however, It is more expensive than say a Gixxer250, and in either form, they are the best value bikes available. the price of a chinese bike doesn't match the reliability or resale value of the Gixxer, so that means the Chinese things are not on the cards at all, for me anyway! The Gixxers on the other hand are physically too small and difficult to ride because they are so tiny, and then there's the shoe always touching the muffler because again the bike is so small. Suzuki just doesn't have an in between bike, the only one that is big enough without going over 250cc and having to pay more for registration and insurance is the V-Strom, and that's an acceptable price tag as well, it puts it ahead of the SV650 because of the registration, insurance, running and Maintenance costs. but I wouldn't want to be the guy who gets the bigger bike that costs more to own and run, and then have the weight overpower me at low speeds and drop it on my leg. I'd save that for when the lighter bike feels completely weightless. the way the bikes hold their value just makes this approach make even more economical sense. So I guess if you are Male and think along the lines of what is most logical, get the bike that fits the rules, and trade up when the time comes. If you want to take the risk that you may do serious damage to the expensive bike and yourself in the process, then go for the restricted bike, and then go and upgrade it later anyway, as either way you are going to want to upgrade after you get the next part of your licence!

[@maycrotch8576]

Great points we'll made as always spicy 👌

[@nathangreen6286]

A2 compliant for sure. I have the 19' CBR500R and I like it for sure but after 2 years when I can do my full license I'll deffo be getting a different bike so I don't see the point in restricting a bike that I'll get bored of in 2 years anyway.

[@CZ350tuner]

So with the power to weight ratio equation, nearly all the 1970's and 1980's classic 2 stroke bikes above 250cc are out of bounds for A2 licence holders.

[@A_S_100]

Well mainly Kawasaki triples more than 250cc and Suzuki GT750's. You would be allowed to restrict a Suzuki GT550 as it only has a power to weight ratio of 0.17. On an A2 licence You could also ride almost any Jawa CZs as a lot of them have less than 20bhp. Especially 50s,60s and 70s Jawa 354s, 353's,559's and 360s. Even the later 350 twins only have a max of 34bhp .

[@jordan18216]

Great video. Im 22, weighing up weather to do an A2 or wait 2 years and get an A. So annoying as want to get a license now but then don’t want to have to end up doing it twice, and paying out twice considering how expensive it all is.

[@unclebumble8971]

I'd wait. You'll be paying twice for the same training. Put the money saved towards a nice bike

[@jordan18216]

@@unclebumble8971 yeah exactly. Just so frustrating having to wait!

[@jour785]

im 20 and in the process of doing my a2 rn, im lowkey starting to feel like I fucked up, I really want to get a sv650 and just ride it unrestricted though

[@jordan18216]

@@jour785 I did the A2 at 22, been riding 2 years on a 500. Ridiculous that if i want above 47 bhp I have to redo the same exact test. Getting a bigger bike soon and “restricting” it ;). If you get pulled over the police don’t even have the equipment roadside to test if it’s restricted or not. So they can’t tell, most people I know on an A2 ride around unrestricted no problems for years.

[@jour785]

@@jordan18216 I would love to get a f4i since I 100% won't ride restricted but that might be a bit too sketch since the bike just looks and sounds way more mean than a sv 650 and is over the 95 hp limit

[@HippoDrones]

I'd 100% agree that for the majority of people, then getting a bike that was intended to be A2 is a better bet than one restricted to be compliant. Restricted bikes don't ride as nicely and are often a lot heavier. I'd far rather ride a KTM 390 Duke for a couple of years than a strangled Divvy for example. After 2 years of ownership and then passing your A licence, you will more than likely be bored of your current bike, however good it is, so trading it in or selling it privately and getting a full power bike would be a far bigger thing and offers much more choice of bikes than you can get restricted down to the A2 compliance! :-)

[@johndiehardmclean23]

@ 40+ years young, all my experienced biker mates told me not to even bother buying a 125cc anything...So now have 2 Yamaha's, both 125's & living the dream!!! 😂😎👍 I'll definitely have a Honda like Reeno's at 1 point I reckon, but I'm in no rush, not that you can really on a 125!!! 😬🤣👍

[@jonano12]

A friend of minei is giving me his old Kawasaki ER 5 and I looking forward to it. The problem is that it's KW power is 35.8 and I have a A2 licence so I'm going to have to get it restricted . I'm going to have to pay a fair bit of money to get .8 kw taken out of it , which is a pain in the ass . At least I'll be able to use most of the power so that's something.

[@spicy110]

I would get it checked first I bet it's not putting that out.

[@jonano12]

@@spicy110 yeah I doubt it is actually putting that out as well, it's a bit beaten up but mechanically sound. I just don't know how I would be able to prove it's not putting out that much kw. The website says that a ER 5 has to be restricted to meet the A2 requirements.

[@nightterror5131]

I ride a tracer 700 restricted and the only difference is that with the restricter out it goes 20 mph faster. A restricted bike has way more torque. a Yamaha MT07 restricted will out pace any A2 compliant bike

[@dylankebinger2632]

I'm currently riding a 125 on a CBT (aged 17) but don't see the point of doing an A1 as for me having a pillion and going on the motorway aren't really anything I want to do on a 125 so I'm just going to wait until I'm 19 and do my A2. I've been given my dad's 99 Yamaha FZS 600 (which is only just A2 compliant due to its horsepower) which I think is almost perfect for me as it's a solid bike unrestricted, I've been given it for free by my dad (as if needs a little work doing to it which he can't do and I'm doing mechanics at college). Even doing the work to it it's still considerably cheaper than buying an A2 compliant bike. If anyone can help with what time of restriction would be best for my bike (it's carbed if that helps) please let me know thanks.

[@PNinjaa]

What does it mean when motorcycles like Honda cbr640r says it A2 on the website but it doesn't meet the kw or bhp requirements? Are they compliant or do they need to be restricted?

[@Neva56]

Restricted bikes have a lot more torque compared to a2 bikes due to their larger displacement as restriction does only reduce the power and not the torque, for example compare the cb500 with the restricted cb650 which has 20% more grunt this makes the bike a lot more fun even though they both have the same max power output.

[@spicy110]

In a twin yes, with a inline 4 not so much as they need to rev out and throttle stops that.

[@Neva56]

@@spicy110 thanks for the reply, yeap make sense for the inline 4 if the restriction is made by throttle. The twins and the triple e.g. the trident 660 restricted and non restricted have almost the same healthy 60Nm of torque from the low-mid range which is awesome. Not a quite right comparison but the cb500 which is naturally an a2 compliant gives only 40ish Nm of torque which is substantially lower than Trident due to its lower displacement, so my point was better to settle for a higher displacement in general, btw throttle restriction seems to be a very primitive approach 😬

[@ExploringAdventuress]

If I have a Full A license and brought a bike that was 600/700cc could I get the bike restricted so I can learn to ride it without the max power out put? I’m looking at buying my first bike after my test but don’t want to waste money buying bikes then selling them. I’m just wondering if I can buy just the one bike then just have it restricted and then later on have it removed?

[@spicy110]

If you have a full A licence you can do what you want to it, you just have to report the modification with your insurance. But if you ride well enough to get your full A you will be more than capable of riding it unrestricted. So I really do not know why you would want to.

[@lewist947]

hey man I'm looking into getting motorcycle, I'm 20 and haven't rode before but want to complete the best test as soon as possible so I can use on dual carriageways, motorways etc, what advice would you recommend ?

[@patwilliam543]

i'm a touring bike guy, my 125 was an old yammy sr125. There isn't many A2 tourers so i'm looking at restricting an electra glide (74bhp as standard), is this a good idea, if not what would be your alternative? I will be travelling 300 odd miles fairly often so don't really want to compromise on comfort/luggage capacity etc etc.

[@SummitSelfieSeeker]

I’m 27 and my plan is to re do my cbt next year and then go in for my a2 I don’t want or need any bigger can’t wait

[@spicy110]

if you are over 24 do the full A not the A2, you don't need to get a bigger bike after but it is the same test and will not only allow you to ride anything, insurance should be cheaper.

[@SummitSelfieSeeker]

@@spicy110 as silly as it sounds I was only considering my a2 license as in February next year I believe the weight ratio on what size bike you can actually do your a2 on changes. I struggle with the weight of some bikes so thought the a2 would be perfect

[@Sevvenpm]

What do you think about the Yamaha R7 2023 restricted to a2 licence?

[@martinpip8212]

After riding on a CBT for 2 years you should be allowed to ride up to a 250 on a CBT.

[@stevenyates6732]

I'm considering hornet 500 or A2 750 hornet the bikes very similar but friend wants me go touring I think 750 more suitable. I'm mature driver really don't care if bike can go 100mph or 135mph, what happens if EU restricks new bikes to 70mph? With limiters where will we be then? with A and A2 licences

[@ScottGoesFishing]

Hi do you know what models of the Honda hornet 600 can be restricted ??? The power of the bike seems to vary from 90hp to 95hp depending on the year.

[@vapiddragon6789]

Having this between a honda cbx 500 and a kawasaki versys 650 atm obvs have to restrict the versys idk

[@ALL-gr4gu]

Ir kawasaki comes up with the Versys 400cc or 450cc I'd be so happy...

[@lluukkeeeekkuull]

Spicy how do you get directions whenever you need to ride to a new place? I've been using earphones connected to my phone to get audio directions, but dont have a phone holder to see the screen. It's beginning to drive me crazy and I'd buy a phone holder in a flash, but they're so damn expensive!!

[@spicy110]

Sena headset and google maps audio directions or as I recently reviewed the Beeline moto GPS.

[@benl7070]

Couple of things 1 - someone really doesn't like you, whenever you put a new video up it immediately gets a dislike. If you don't like it don't watch it, simple. 2 - I think the licensing laws are nonsense and can't be bothered to go in to it, (no matter how many license grades there are the fact is, is that people aren't being taught and the tests don't require any sort of observation, awareness, self preservation etc etc, you can have all the tests you like it still doesn't help safety). And finally, I got my A2 a little while ago now and I've currently got a ybr250 it's a nice little bike, cruise at 55-60 all day, it's light and economical and reasonably comfy too, I'm currently saving up for a cb500f I feel it has those similar qualities, but might be a tad more pokey on long journeys, I find 7000 rpm to do 65 a bit tiering on long distances. As well, most of my trips involve commuting, country lanes and coast roads.

[@Fordahord1]

all the 125s cruise at 60 all day long…

[@benl7070]

@@Fordahord1 yes but you'll be doing higher revs, and from experience I can say it isn't comfortable hanging onto a wide open throttle, my 250 your at just over half throttle doing 55-60, much more comfortable, it's just personal preference I suppose.

[@bikewheel5835]

I have a harley sporster 48 but I'm 17, it's a 1200cc but only has 66hp, so could I restrict it to use it at 18?

[@spicy110]

Yes if it only has 66bhp you can restrict it for A2 but you need to be 19 not 18 to take the A2.

[@alexanderthegreat9663]

I’ll be taking my A2 test next year. I’m looking at a 350 scooter or even a 750 scooter. Can I have my test on a automatic or does it have to be a gear bike

[@omidheydari633]

If you do automatic then you can only ride automatic

[@dill_jle]

Does anyone know if an a2 restricted bike would get cheaper insurance than if the same bike was unrestricted?

[@spicy110]

I think you will find that aspect will make little difference in the grand scheme of it all. If it does become cheaper it's likely more to do with the fact you have a full licence.

[@dill_jle]

@@spicy110 ok thank you for the reply mate

[@jonno94]

Spicy or anyone in the know, can you answer this query for me please, i have a full bike license and a work buddy of mine, who is a scooter guy, has been riding 125cc on a CBT for years now. He asked me, if he wanted to own and ride a scooter (twist & go) above 125cc, would he have to do a bike test on a manual bike or can he do it on a twist & go? He has no intention of ever riding a manual bike, so cant see the point in having to learn to ride one and you can learn and pass a test in an automatic car here in the uk and now we are starting to see the introduction of auto bikes, both petrol and electric. Does the bike testing in the uk accommodate both types of bikes?

[@jonno94]

Ps, sorry if you have already covered this in the past.

[@spicy110]

You can take an A2, maybe a full A licence on a auto yes, however it will take some ringing around schools to find someone who has a larger cc auto for him to train and pass tests on. Also this will mean he can only ride auto bikes but from what you say that is not an issue.

[@jonno94]

Ahh that is good to know, i will pass that on to him, cheers for the reply matey. 👍

[@StrawDragon]

How I love the USA, no bike restrictions even on a permit. You can go right to a 200+ hp bike with zero riding experience.

[@Aaron70235]

But as a result your road safety is absolutely terrible compared to the UK.

[@StrawDragon]

@@Aaron70235 That applies everywhere even in the UK where it is restricted.

[@irockz9723]

Yeah cool,but 17 year olds buy 1000cc and kill them selves. And they can’t corner got nothin

[@ANDY1985UK2011]

@@Aaron70235 far too easy to get a car licence too over there

[@ozzyprogdomino8815]

It is because in the UK we have social medicine and care that is free at the point of use. It cost the country to fix us if we crash. In the US you or your insurance have to pay for your recovery. it is not that UK cares more about our safety, it is simple economics.

[@hamzihh]

is it possible to restrict a 300cc to 11 kW so it runs like a 125c, which will then make it A1 compliant? Like a 700cc restricted so its A2 compliant?

[@spicy110]

No you can not, the last line in the rules on the A1 says it is must be 125cc, it isn't just a power limit. Unlike the A2 that only has a power limit not cc. Hope that helps.

[@TheKnightsShield]

What if you wanted to go full electric and you had your 125 limited licence and you wanted something along the lines of a Ninja 250 converted to electric? Any idea as to what the process is? Is it simply just make the bike conform to the restrictions and ride happy, or is there more to it?

[@spicy110]

Electric conversion is something I would love to see but I have never seen done. It would be insainly expensive and you would really need to know a lot about EV's

[@hazzalandy]

It would be so much easier starting with a 125. Legally then all you'd have to do is change the fuel type on the V5 (free) and inform insurance. Just converted my MG Midget to electric, it's brilliant

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

@@hazzalandy I reckon the 1st gen Yamaha R125 could take well to electric conversion. Essentially an R6 frame, built like a tank, extra roomy fairings and a plastic fuel tank so you dont have to get rid of a metal tank. The question is: would anyone want to get rid of an engine that does 99mpg but still gets 15bhp? Its alot of work to end up at the point where you would have been better off with a Zero.

[@TheKnightsShield]

@Harry Smith Good choice of car, love those things. 👍

[@TheKnightsShield]

@spicy110 Or just find someone to do the conversion. 😉

[@user-se7vt5ow4e]

Can a Ducati 797 be made A2 compliant.

[@spicy110]

Did a google, The Ducati Monster 797 is a 803cc A2-friendly standard bike. It has a power output of 54 kW (74 bhp), which exceeds the 35 kW (47 bhp) limit needed for an A2 licence. The bike has to be restricted by at least 35.1% to become A2 licence compliant.

[@Dan-56]

A perspective from an old fart living in a country without tiered licenses; My nearly 100hp “Adventure” bike is used for longer, faster, and two up rides. But when I just want to go for a 30 mile back road ride for my own enjoyment, you guessed it, I jump on my DR-Z400SM 🤪👍. For me, horse power has its place, but it doesn’t dictate the level of fun I can have.🏍😃

[@ronnie2465]

So can you restrict a CBR650R to be compliant to an A2 license

[@spicy110]

Yes I believe that is one of the bikes that can be restricted for A2.

[@zeddi1488]

Can I do the same for an a1 license? So restrict a 300cc to comply with that?

[@spicy110]

No, A1 is a 125cc license only.

[@zeddi1488]

That’s disappointing

[@spicy110]

@@zeddi1488 Asuming you are 17 as you are asking about the A1, you only have 2 years before you can take the A2. It is not a bad idea to get a CBT and a 125cc to learn to ride. As they say, walk before you can run.

[@zeddi1488]

@@spicy110 yh I understand, thanks for getting back to me so fast, appreciate the help

[@spicy110]

No problem, best of luck on your way to 2 wheels! 👍

[@Bigalref1]

I have just gone from a 600 to a 250

[@yu7mages]

Can i restrict yamaha R7 for A2?

[@spicy110]

Yes you can.

[@yu7mages]

@@spicy110 Thank you so much!

[@jackbryden]

Can i buy an r6 and restrict it down to be A2 compliant?

[@spicy110]

no, the bike can not have more than 95bhp before it is restricted.

[@jackbryden]

@@spicy110 damn, r3 it is then for me lol

[@WingsOfNovaaris]

So I can’t buy a Ninja H2 at 19 and slap a plate on the throttle then… damn and blast

[@WisePaul1337]

DAS (Direct Access) FTW

[@Mrflash222006]

So Spicy............. what bike should i buy 😉 Also would you like a toasted teacake?

[@diamondbbt6905]

So to say if im 24 and if i do my cbt how long do i have to wait to ride a 600cc bike or can i just take a test for the A license or even A2 License dont know if you will respond just i have no idea how it works

[@spicy110]

If you are 24 now you can take the theory, cbt, mod 1 and 2 and revive a full A.

[@FrostyBanter]

HAYLING ISLAND :o

[@Ravan_Caw]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@mrkiwijimmymrkiwijimmy2530]

.

[@terryl9643]

An A2 bike is fast enough for any biker i would say, it's an oxymoron to say i want a more powerful bike with that logic even a drag bike would not be fast enough

[@Iunreelz]

Someone help me pls. I plan on doing my A2 sometime next year and I'm stuck between the Ktm 450/500 exc and the husqvarna 701/Ktm 690 These bikes especially the exc which is probably what I'll go for are just barely over the limit of what I'll be allowed. I'd like to just get a cheap throttle restriction to get insured and take that bad boy straight off. Does anyone have any links to a compatible restricter? As I cant find anything online about this

[@maycrotch8576]

QUESO PALMITO!!!!!!!!