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[@JCman8787]

I think we have to remember that Disney+ has increased their prices and have cracked down on password sharing. This has to have had an effect on viewership.

[@edselgreaves6503]

For existing users, yes. But they're also running promos for people to get DisneyPlus at a dollar and ninety nine cents at the same time.

[@xRachaelzx]

So many people were saying "who wants this show" before Agatha releases so these numbers aren't a terrible start. It has 9 episodes to build up viewership and the word of mouth has been positive unlike other shows on that list.

[@shauncorr7205]

Good point. Well made but i still think without Wanda it's in trouble

[@Leoatotis-il9pq]

Yeah I haven't watched a MCU show since she-hulk and this is the first one that I am remotely interested in catching up on once it wraps

[@itzante2148]

I’m also not concerned given that Disney Plus has had a string of disappointments so people are turned off. But Agatha is getting great word of mouth so I can see more people getting onboard as it goes along, similar to your Agatha videos that you mentioned.

[@ms.carriage6867]

Ok I'm gonna say it. I don't think the viewership for Agatha is bad. She's a D level character and the viewership is perfectly acceptable and respectable. The discourse around the show has been ok compared to things like the Marvels so it's fixing that gap slightly too. It's doing what it needs to atm. If the show stays in this just ok lane then it will be fine but if it goes off the rails like a lot of star wars things have then it will be bad

[@dutch3533]

It all depends on the cost of production if that is low enough then these are acceptable (not great) viewing figures. But all depends on the ratings improving .Marvel needs hits because the shareholders are complaining.

[@bryanbarajas5499]

Yea, I don't think disney will care that they are d list

[@crapreact5989]

​@@dutch3533who cares the show is a mini series if the small fan base is enjoying them who cares it's not like Disney is going Brake

[@bryanbarajas5499]

They need to see money to continue this series and make others like it.

[@AdamantGremlin]

I agree. And I think it's okay to have smaller shows - just as long as they stick to a budget - a known marvel weakness. I had tons of genre shows to watch growing up, and they still made good stuff with small budgets.

[@Animaxx010]

I haven’t enjoy a marvel project as much as Agatha in a long while! So good

[@hakevin2236]

I think Agatha and this corner of the MCU will be fine. It's safe to say that most of us who are watching are really enjoying it and those who were doubtful are enjoying it more and more as the show progresses.

[@sm-rune]

I think Agatha can be a soft streamer so long as it launches Wiccan successfully. He doesn’t have a huge fan base because he’s not been introduced to mainstream audiences yet. If they take good care of our boy, he’ll provide the merch and viewers over the next 10 to 20 years. I think you’re being a little too doom and gloom about these numbers. The point of Agatha isn’t to break the internet; it’s to make to a new Hocus Pocus. Agatha is a playing the long game.

[@Its_Enri]

Agatha is like a super conservative show from a budget standpoint. The last episode took place entirely in a house with *one* CGI shot the entire episode. The word of mouth is good, the RT score is increasing everyday. Acolyte debuted high and fell off a cliff because it was bad which hurt it because it was insanely expensive. I can’t imagine Marvel/Disney are hurt by these numbers.

[@larkin2662]

I agree with you on Variety's reporting. I know the reporter Marc Malkin is gay and is excited for the show (and rightly so) but to consistently ask the actors and creators the same question at the premiere, "is Agatha, Marvel's gayest show?" and write about it, did the show no favors. It was embarrassing. I watch Agatha and I'm loving it. But I don't see it as a 'gay show'. I see gay representation among the characters, but the mysteries are geared for everyone to enjoy. I can see Variety's overzealous reporting as a detriment, not a positive to reach a maximum audience. Hopefully, the mysteries (some ruined already) will allow folks to invest in the journey as the show progresses. Because there are so many narrative directions it can go to get to the end.

[@gijoefreak]

I've been enjoying every episode of the Agatha show!

[@JesusMM07]

I was gifted a membership, towards the end of the stream but I couldn't see who it was from 😢 I still want to say a HUGE THANK YOU to whoever got me the gift sub! ❤❤❤ I've been a follower for a long time, but I've never had money to be a subscriber. So this is a big gift for me 😊❤ I enjoy Grace's stream so much. I watch every live stream and it's so much fun being there. This month is gonna be more fun thanks to the sub! 😊😊😊

[@felipeibarburu8089]

There’s an important mistake here, Disney + numbers are worldwide, Max’s numbers are domestic

[@tashaallen4421]

I'm going to binge watch Agatha.... So maybe a lot of others will too. I'm excited for the show

[@llllila]

I think regarding Agatha it must be considered that the show is not allowed in many countries (in the whole middle east Disney Agatha is not streamed, but the Acolyte it). There is also the fact that it is much cheaper than other Marvel shows.

[@crapreact5989]

Really I didn't know that

[@ethanskinner6146]

I'm going to mention this. I'm from South Africa, and every episode releases 3AM. Nobody is going to stay up that late. Plus, everybody was hating on Agatha before realizing it's pretty good. It's going to take some time before its fully realized

[@CJM2702]

I had 7 days to watch Agatha to get those viewership numbers up so the drop time doesn’t mean anything. It also had 7 days of good work of mouth so again people still chose to still not watch it

[@DavidM_10]

I predicted a couple of weeks ago that Agatha's viewership would be even less than The Acolyte's, and I was right. It was very apparent to me from the trailers that the show wouldn't appeal strongly to Marvel's male audience. And let me add that the problem is not the absence of Wanda or the show being about witches. It's simply the execution. Agatha looks like it's written *for* women; it looks like The Real Housewives of Salem's Lot. And I'm not saying the show is bad. I respect that a lot of you like it. But within the Marvel fandom, it has niche appeal. (There's also the fact that MCU fans don't have much faith in Marvel shows, period, these days. So very few people are willing to give a show the benefit of the doubt unless it looks amazing or gets great word-of-mouth. Maybe Agatha will have good word-of-mouth by the end of its run, but right now it's not drawing people in on face value.)

[@owenharrison761]

I don't agree so much, for the show to be a disappointment, first it should have had high expectations, And that's not something that I think fans and the studio had for a show with an small audience and with a supporting character as the protagonist. You tend to look for every disney ip to be at the top or to have an enormous box office, you did it with romulus, but in this post-pandemic context i think it is not necessary.

[@DineshPradeep]

Omg.. Received a gifted membership.. am not sure who the gift was from.. Thanks a lot to whoever gift😊 and tomorrow is my birthday .. best Birthday gift.. ❤️Happy to be part of this family

[@Vllad94]

So, what's the point of comparing Agatha with Acolyte, Percy or Ahsoka if only 1 episode was measured for Agatha and the others had 2 episode measured at the begining?

[@deeonbrown]

Agatha is deep cut for most of the fandom launched from another Disney Plus show. I would be interested on how it compares other Disney Plus Shows for the same/similar duration.

[@sharpfantasy9572]

Maybe Wanda is better as a supporting character but it is unfair to say this based on a show that has no Wanda in it lol

[@deeonbrown]

A fandom that includes so many “don’t watch this” and “irredeemable qualities” ppl before the actual release of a show or movie shouldn’t be considered fans. Folks are breaking down shows without ever watching them and proud of it. That’s not good faith. A fandom of non fans.

[@joejoewalters]

Gotta say I’ve loved Agatha so far, is giving me Labyrinth / Time Bandits / Cartoon Dungeons and Dragons vibes

[@PlatinumState]

How is 9.3 million disappointing for Agatha? Youre not making sense at all Grace

[@david88464]

As much as I started liking the show, the MCU brand is damaged after low-lows such as Secret Invasion and Quantumania, and let's not forget this is a pseudo-aftermath to Multiverse of Madness, which sunk the franchise like Batman v Superman did for the DCEU. Maybe this will get word of mouth (if they keep the quality bar stable) going into Thundebolts or the next TV project, Daredevil or whatever.

[@david88464]

Regarding female viewership, I think they'd have to look first into the source material. Comics certainly aren't attracting readers beyond the usuals, unlike manga and anime. Reading the reactions and comments to this week's Jujutsu Kaisen paints a completely opposite picture of demographics opposed to current MCU.

[@MarkieMark-lh2ri]

Sorry, but I have a hard time being sympathetic to the big umbrella argument when there hasn't been the same concern for the male centered content.

[@adamagreen]

Um grace 9 Million in 7 days is more impressive then 5 million in 5. 🤣 girl do the math

[@neonpenguin95]

Agatha is the only Marvel show that my female roommate has ever wanted to watch, and she’s loving it.

[@literateant]

You also got to take acount that it's a "witch"show no broad appeal but it's doing number

[@tmarie69]

As an Ohio native, I’m super happy to see Mike Faist getting some love!

[@aidedbuffalo3257]

FIRST 😂😂😂😂😂❤

[@simiokelana974]

I think Agatha’s viewership reflects the fact that Marvel has spent a lot of their goodwill with fans when it comes to tv shows and people are proceeding cautiously aka waiting for good WOM after serious duds like Echo and Secret Invasion. As for the Acolytes shocking 11.1 M I’m making a reachy assumption that hate watchers boosted that…

[@nailinthefashion]

Or it’s just not as bad as a bunch of people who expect x are making it out to be. It’s one of my fave SW stories so far so I wish people could get over the nitpicking and allow writers to make things they actually believe in instead of cloning the first few films ad infinitum

[@jessevjames]

I love the mini reviews! I hope you have a great weekend Grace

[@EvanSol919]

A new report came out saying that The Acolyte's budget was really $230 million.

[@dutch3533]

The show cost 179 million British pounds so 230 million dollars is correct.

[@tammy7465]

I love this show and I think what’s sad is that it’s Feige’s fault for letting all the crap shows continue for so long that people are literally so apprehensive because they’ve been burned by 💩 content for years now and they don’t have faith anymore… I have a friend who felt this way and I had to BEG her to watch AGatha which she did and her exact words were “Now, where the $&@? has this quality been?” We watched episode three together 😅❤

[@JuniorYTrinidad]

I enjoyed Agatha. But I enjoyed it in a watch when you can kind of way. It's just not appointment television. The Penguin has lower numbers but after I watched episode one (also on my own time) I felt like I wanted to watch episode 2 right away. It's appointment television even if at a smaller number.

[@gqd1975]

They need to give a show time to grow a large audience. Multiple seasons. Everyone expects huge numbers for Agatha (a very obscure character) just because its Marvel. Is that really fair?

[@Uldrod]

You know, if I could watch all the episodes of The Penguin, I would definitely have watched it already. But no, I have to wait until November to watch the entire series? I'm telling you, this weekly format is not made for streaming.

[@adonismimon9124]

Who would’ve thought that marvel shows that tie to the MCU will hurt marvel. Back in the day we were upset that the marvel Netflix characters lived in their own space and never showed up in the movies… today we are overwhelmed by all the tv characters and it seems like separating the movies from the tv shows, was actually the right call

[@nicolascardillo7615]

I know a lot people waiting for the end of Agatha to binge-watching it. They prefer getting word of mouth that the shows is good all the way to the end, n binge watch it making it easier to digest most of the show while feeling u getting all the good parts fast n nonstop, while just cruising to the slugs that u would not feel as much.

[@LEOIAMLEOONYOUTUBE]

I like that shirt! It's giving Sonic 3 vibes. 🦔🦔🦔

[@david88464]

Shadow shirt 😎👍I hope Grace wears it for her Sonic & Shadow review.

[@jolibaybay]

I don’t care about the rating.. the show is really strong in my opinion and I’m loving it

[@KimoPollock]

I would like a comparison between Agatha and Secret Invasion.

[@Sanj1n]

Loved the livestream as always. I really loved your blouse. I am so happy that I was able to be on the 3 livestreams these week.

[@juliansmoma]

I'm a 60 yr old black woman & I'm loving Agatha! 😁

[@jaime1200]

Agatha as a C or D character. I think the numbers are great.

[@bbmoon5222]

Hopefully the positive word of mouth helps Agatha. I am interested to see how the show is doing compared specifically to other MCU shows though. Like I am sure the show is doing much better than Secret Invasion, Echo, and What If. I agree the performance is not great but I don't feel quite as bleak about things yet.

[@darylmodjeski698]

I been watching the show. Besides really the first episode, I don't see the LGBT reference like variety was saying. The show is good.

[@mandy79319]

i dont understand why percy jackson is considered bad

[@mandy79319]

like i get it its not the last of us or shogun or even house of the dragon, but why is this content considered bad by any means?

[@mandy79319]

and percy jackson also has a lot of representation (gay people, bi people, pocs)

[@lars7282]

The viewership for these shows are basically irrelevant: Those shows don’t want to be renewed - so they don’t need to be mega hits. The discussion is not needed imo

[@Ray03595]

If thats true for optic reasons you advertise this as a limited series then. The way it seems to be going is they are throwing a bunch of shows and whatever sticks gets another season.

[@armanimartinez8105]

Doctor strange was the main reason people watched doctor strange 2 ??? Who would have thought hahahah

[@crapreact5989]

😂 sure bud no one cares about Dr strange the first movie was not good ppl only the 2nd one because it sold itself as a multiverse movie and Wanda thx to Wandavision

[@TheMusicalLawyer]

I think that Agatha should be releasing two episodes a week. This isn’t much watch TV-it’s just fun TV. And 30 minutes of fun once a week isn’t enough to build hype. Also, I have to say, Rings of Power is surprisingly compelling this second season. I do feel more compelled to watch it when it drops then Agatha All Along.

[@cosmicdropout8187]

22:21 this is a Good point and It's worrisome that channels like this give as much credit, or all the credit, of the Multiverse Of Madness box office to Wanda. She was extremely important in the movie, but Strange is a character of her level or higher. With an extremely important participation in Infinity War and Endgame, besides it was a Sam Reimi movie, that is, Wanda was crucial in the success of the movie, but a hypothetical film of hers would be her, along with a cast similar to Wandavision (and Agatha's unfortunately), without Sam Reimi and with a cameo, at most, of Dr Strange. It seems dangerous to me to expect a billion dollars from that movie B.s: maybe with Magneto, Polaris or some

[@baxtermox6418]

Why are you acting like Disney is going to be dissuaded from projects that feature LGBT or black females? So the numbers are low.. ok, they'll try again, and again, and again. It's Disney lololol

[@TechRyze]

The mini reviews are a great idea, Grace. You could even cut them out and release them as clips if they're suitable. KZbin loves those clips - lots of exposure for the channel. edit: the classic movie chit-chat is also fantastic - do this regularly - I LOVE THIS x

[@cosmicdropout8187]

21:46 Agatha almost do not exist in the comics continuity and Weccan is more of the same. Weccan is part of the cosmic side of Marvel becouse he is married with Hulkling, and if Hulkling don't shows up, Weccan do not exist...there is no fanbase there

[@martinwinter615]

the Infinity saga of the MCU was so successful was also so successful because it was simple - 1 Bad guy wanting to get the stones to do something bad - this over the whole sage now oh we have different dimensions, we have timelines we have extreme powerfull that created earth? - Do Marvel and Disney really think any average moviegoer can follow this.

[@juliansmoma]

I never saw the 1955 East of Eden film, but I did watch the 1981 tv miniseries version and loved it. I was in highschool @ the time & read the novel as well.

[@luma4902]

I love Wanda but i'm not super hyped for a possible Wanda movie after Multiverse of madness they wasted her big moment there and i fear it would be like the black window movie situation all over again a solo movie that is so late to the party that is not even about her anymore. Btw marvel says a lot about making strong female characters but they failed both black window and scarlet witch 2 of their main female characters and some of the most popular ones

[@kombardo-dli]

Dear Grace. The numbers are very confusing, because some of numbers are domestic and some of them seems to be domestic + international numbers. It really dosn´t matter how good numbers you have for the first episodes, let us see after 5-6 episodes, but right now i think that penguin will overtake Agatha before long.

[@rena7123]

I think europe will mostly watch Agatha the following Fr-Su because of the release slot And honestly the "average guy" wants to see Aubrey. At least so I heard. Let's see how skeleton crew with Jude Law and younger boys does

[@jfb3361]

I was bored by WandaVision, and the ad campaign for Agatha did not interest me. However, I enjoyed Wanda in the Madness movie, and would watch a movie with her.

[@rocco3605]

I don’t think I’d ever heard of East of Eden before now but I always thought Yeast of Eden from Inside Out must be a reference to something. xD

[@ssalv319]

I would love a live stream about classic movies. There are so many wonderful films that so many people haven’t seen. Younger people don’t want to watch older or black and white movies. We need to educate.

[@lordfuture1]

I think there's not quote unquote toxicity discussion around this show because people have settled into apathy for Marvel.

[@blvck.pixels]

if people like you are saying that the ratings are bad blah blah blah, then i think bring back the glory days of good times for people in the australian timezones. we care and talk about these shows so much, and nobody i talk to seems to care about american drop times. the rest of the world can watch when they feel like it, if they even care. we can wait for your breakdown the next day! you even show on mondays how the world outside of america is holding up fandoms! so maybe the way forward for hollywood is to not cater for america only anymore.

[@lisal7434]

East of Eden was done as a mini series in the 70s with Jane Seymour as the Mom in focus. A real crazy character. A must see with Florence in the roll!!

[@hailhydra2296]

Agatha should have been a hour and a half Halloween movie on D+. Kathryn Hahn also said on the red carpet that Agatha was only a one season show. Maybe that hurt it as well.

[@cristian52793]

Grace should watch The First Omen which was released earlier this year. It received rave reviews and it was a pretty worth prequel to the original omen.

[@nothisispatrick5123]

Apartment 7A feel so late to the game at this point, immaculate and especially the first omen are worthy modern successor of what the rosemary baby did .

[@jabezcreed]

I'm enjoying Industry, and I'm binging Mayor of Kingstown for the first time.

[@classicmovielover4056]

Rosemary's Baby is one of my favorite films of all time. So I might watch Apartment 7a.

[@Ninasanz83]

I swear to fukn god if yall don’t stop sleeping on Agatha im coming for you!!! 🔪🔪🔪

[@andreacamp936]

Grace, just to clarify about East of Eden (English major here), Christopher Abbot will play Florence Pugh's husband (Aaron and Cal's father) and Mike Faist will play her brother-in-law. He will not be playing the James Dean role!

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

All the trades are reporting Faist in in the James Dean role, but perhaps they're incorrect.

[@edgar214ER]

To be honest I don’t think Disney is going have a big hit show until daredevil

[@love22merritt]

Sounds like another Classic movie recommendation needs to be done🎉

[@jaime1200]

I keep forgetting that it comes out on Wednesday.

[@justinrussell9391]

The only one that shares the blame is the showrunner-she made these decisions

[@Molaleni]

Grace, I know that the words "toxicity" and "representation" are important to you, but I want to let you know that they can turn some people off. When you call people "toxic," it can be deceptive and may not bring them to the table. I suggest using a different word. Your impact on how people interact in this space is significant, so please use these words with more awareness.

[@nailinthefashion]

It’s deterring the right people. Good riddance lol

[@jillg9108]

Rosemary's Baby is such a good movie.

[@purplealien9048]

I didn’t watch the new episode until last night

[@jillg9108]

Lovely blouse, Grace

[@TheDeckOfficer]

Your fashion this week has been incredible. A very early James Dean TV show appearance that’s great, is in a show called “Tales of Tomorrow” aired in 1951. It’s a Twlight Zoney kind of show, that also co stars Rod Steiger.

[@Lormenkal64]

I watched comic book movies and shows for 15 years, thats one and a half decades dominating media. At this point I am just over it. I am ready for video game movies and shows.

[@lordtyrion1051]

RIP MAGGIE

[@jeffreyrivera292]

Hi

[@thedollaisle]

Personally I think it’s incredible that this show is even competing as well as it is with these other shows! This is a character that almost NO ONE knew before WandaVision! A character with none of her own comics! I’m still in the “this is good” camp!

[@thedollaisle]

I wonder if Wiccan’s casting could be a factor as well

[@dragonwatter]

first i do think agatha will be juged differently than the acolyte. the acolyte flipped some fans of Disney star wars and it had a redicoulaa budget. can't find numbers on what they spent on agatha. the fact is the marketing pushed this show in to a larger neich than it already had. frankly marvel has given the middle finger to their actually fanbase one to many time and joe lock and the rest of the casts comments about how gay this show is haven't helped. i'm gay and that crap put a bad taste in my mouth. add in that it is a show about witches, that have now powers, and one has already been a villain. they built themselves a small audiences trying to appeal to the modern audience that never manifests. as much as i enjoy it. theirs nothing in this show for the majority of marvels fans who lets face it are straight and male. It's time for marvel to pivit back to the audience that actually exists and goes to see their movies and watch their shows. it's simple business.

[@nailinthefashion]

I’m bi and it put a good taste in my mouth lol, thank god we finally have projects that are unapologetic about the representation. It will deter the right people

[@zaymm10]

I honestly wish more people were as honest as you are because everything you said is literally why the straight male audience is NOT showing up.

[@CJM2702]

@@nailinthefashiondeter the ones who actually watch the shows and u get flop after flop, so congrats another gay show has flopped and representation is once again damaged

[@PathOfRage]

Disney/Marvel has to realize something...young adult males are your CORE fanbase...young adult and below, young at heart above that 🙂. Is it right? Should it be more diversified, maybe...but this is what it IS. You're not bringing them in with "The View" with witches 🙂...I'm just being real 😂! I think Wonderman is safe...

[@zaymm10]

Wonderman isn't safe. I dont think folks will show up to watch that either.

[@nailinthefashion]

Ohhhhh so representation does matter and they’re making smart choices by broadening who logs into D+….

[@sandiamountains123]

As a gay man I gave up on this show it’s no good while I like Agatha I don’t care about a gay character I want a hot superhero

[@RaedViera]

Wandavision feels like Wonderwoman, while Agatha All Along feels like Wonderwoman 1984. It's too niche and campy for a MAIN audience.

[@-AtomsPhere-]

Should have just been WandaVision season 2. I would have been more interested in that, personally. Im not watching Agatha.

[@simplyrecommended]

Not really shocked about the viewership of Agatha But the lack of fan theories for me gave me insight about the hype of the show Look at Wandavision, who at the theories, mephisto, magneto, Xavier, blue marvel Not much with Agatha, maybe lesson learned, expectations lowered

[@sandal_thong8631]

Since I got Disney+ a couple months ago, I only watched the first episode of _Ahsoka_ and skipped _The Acolyte,_ though I got caught-up on _The Mandalorian._ I did watch the first three episodes of _Agatha All Along_ even though she's a villain like Loki and not a superhero.

[@captinzoom]

I think they created this project for Hawn with very little thought. It's unfortunate for the people who like it. I don't think there is any fixing it to make it. It is what it is. I don't think any of these characters will be seen again. I hope for Grace's sake they change teen to Aretha son and not make it wiken

[@anerrantknight8077]

I cannot stress this enough, there is really ONE group of people who give a fuck about representation in media. That is why hyping up representation, hoping for representation, or encouraging people to watch because of representation have more strikeouts then hits. If a show or movie is good, the average person does not give a fuck about its representation. I think about all the media I have consumed since the early 80s, and I never once watched, did not watch, or hate-watch something due to representation. I am no one special, so I highly doubt I am the only person who feels this way.

[@Lululululee]

It should have been a binge show. Execs again chasing for the engagement money but the show is not made for that. And the practical effects are not that impressive tbh. The witch road is not bad but not really scary. So much opportunities that are not being taken and the third chapter is just not it. That beach house scene was quite something to spend time and money on.

[@mr.j8568]

I was asking just yesterday how the ratings for Agatha were. I don't know who green lit this show but you should always consider: ""Is there an audience for this, who are they and how many of them are there," and if you can't identify them then your passion project may just be something that you want to see but few others do.

[@ericp1139]

MCU really made a series based on a musical jingle.

[@bruh_hahaha]

The activist MCU and Star Wars grifters at Disney have rummaged and milked these franchises dried. Now that they have all made their millions, bought their Malibu mansions and Mercedes convertibles. They’ve essentially burnt down the great houses that took SINCERE FANS decades and decades to build. Maybe they will now move on and give the us fans back our properties and characters. 🙏