Alan Wilder on Depeche Mode auction in Manchester

[@RyanCoomer]

The guy is a mastermind and no one can compare to him. NO ONE. Ever.

[@jackal242]

It took Alan Wilder leaving Depeche Mode for people to realize Alan was the true architect of the sound of Depeche Mode. Without Alan Wilder, there is no Depeche Mode.

[@plutostube]

You heard about the idea of a composition right? The idea about chord progressions that set the mood of a track, about the lyrics and voice lines melodies, about counterpoint synth and guitar lines? Who made these ones? Without these things I am sure you were not here commenting anything about DM...

[@DxModel219]

@@plutostube what you described can be boring, mechanical, rigid songs and thats where Alan came in and gave it a soul.

[@plutostube]

@@DxModel219 sorry but you are missing the simple points of this discussion, if what I described above makes a track boring then you should study before any other comment. Anyway, my last comment, if you strip down and play Martin’s songs on a piano you’ll get what is all about, without that Alan made Recoil and is boring as hell, tracks you remember just half an hour, here is the difference I am talking about. Alan gave the songs more value and made them epic nothing to say about that but he had the perfect base to work with from Martin.

[@DxModel219]

@@plutostube i mean if you strip down anything you’ll get the basics that’s already known… so you’re point is my point, it’s just the basics. Your other point is if there’s no Martin there is no DM. No one is arguing otherwise but Martin with Alan and the rest of the band is something to be reckon with. And I think we are beyond the basics

[@jamesjennings3726]

Given they are touring again next year and have released several albums since his exit, I'd say there is a Depeche Mode. Yes he did shape their sound but he didn't write everything.

[@JacquelineRodriguez-oy1lw]

Handsome, inspirational, kind and talented as always. I hope Alan knows how much his fans including myself appreciated his musical contribution and genius.

[@vanillacaffelatte]

I hope so too.

[@dancing_on_the_valentine_83]

This video brings tears to my eyes... I won't hide Alan is my bestie since I was 13, but life goes on.. I just hope he is happy now. Thank you Alan for everything you've done to DM and us. And I understand why you left. Right is on your side. I love DM even without Alan, but that was definitely Dave's, Martin's and Andy's fault. They didn't care much about Alan in 1993-1995. I think he made the best decision for himself, not for us, but eventually, nobody using him to do everything in the band while the rest are partying..

[@EM.1.]

Not sure why they couldn't have a contract with him signed by a lawyer for fair entitlements.

[@cpt.raziel6981]

Wasn't Dave the closest one to Alan? And as far as I remember, Dave was struggling with other things at the time Alan left the band.

[@ef4331]

Is so hard not to like this man.. never forget your Great perfomance at Rose Bowl Pasadena.....respect.👍

[@jkjojk]

Great video. Alan playing "Black Celebration" sounds, exactly like in "101" film in 1988. What an emotion... - Alan Wilder - my favorite member of DM's history !

[@juandeluna2652]

The best D.M times were with this gentleman...

[@Alexander_Sinkler]

Согласен! 😎👍

[@aracelypadilla4658]

Yesss. He added SO MUCH and never received enough adulation!

[@37jessejames]

alan wilder is so a kind person and down to earth miss him in depeche mode..he is the true star...

[@juancarloscontrerasdeleon3540]

Alan, the man, the mind, the myth, the master...talks like a Phd scientist, It's so sad he left DM so soon, but in reality he was bigger and better than the other 3 and deserved to be his own boss and producer.

[@LABACKmusic]

Alan Wilder : my music teacher from the 90' thanks a lot for what you've done to learn me the music ;) sorry for my english, i'm just a french

[@JavierDM]

God exists and played keyboards on Depeche Mode until 1995.

[@squiremuldoon5462]

Listen to Martins Demos to understand how important Alan was to Depeche Mode, especially the Enjoy the Silence Demo.

[@grimlund]

Yeah. The album version of ETS is allmost like a complete different song compare to the demo. Makes you really wonder who really is the song writer there.

[@departmentofdate2263]

grimlund There is a huge difference between a producer and a songwriter. Alan was a great producer, but he wrote very few songs himself.

[@grimlund]

@@departmentofdate2263 Have you heard the ETS demo?

[@rbrtck]

@@grimlund Martin is the songwriter of the songs credited to him because he wrote the lyrics, lead vocal melody, main backing instrumental melodies, and the chord progression. Sometimes the latter two were greatly changed or even replaced during production, but usually not, and either way Martin remains the sole writer of the original song. Yes, sometimes people question this, but officially there is no question.

[@rbrtck]

@@departmentofdate2263 Most producers don't have the depth of musical knowledge and talent that Alan have, and arrangements and orchestrations are major parts of music. It's not that I disagree with what you said. I'm just saying that a major part of what people perceive as music is often created by producers/musicians like Alan rather than the songwriter/composer, and that Alan is a real standout who happened to be a particularly good match for Martin's generally rather basic songs, as well. After Alan left, any producer who worked for Depeche Mode has had to do a ton of hard work to make them sound anything like what fans and others expect. The definitive DM sound was originally created by Alan, along with Daniel Miller and Gareth Jones. Without him, DM can hardly do squat to imitate their own sound, and at least two of their producers have sworn that they'd never work with DM again because they had to do way too much work without any help from the band. When Alan was still a member, he usually likewise didn't get any help from the other members. Just telling it like it was and is, to the best of my knowledge.

[@Chevytravelleruk]

For your information, Alan had the blessing of the band for these samples appearing in the public domain. The only banks released were "Alan's" live banks and were the sounds compiled from the MFTM and SOFAD tours

[@annick7194]

DM is a band/team. A team is more than the sum of the team members. Both Alan and the rest of the band should realise that. I can’t say I’m a fan of recoil and DM lost me as a fan with their music after 1995. So, guys (Al, Dave, Mart) chew on this one. Mart, the songwriter, Al the Architect and Dave the voice. That was a magical combination with probably clashing strong personalities. R.I.P. Andy, you were perhaps just a musician, but also the Business Manager behind the scenes. What can I say? I was 12 or 13 when I heard their first songs and evolved together with their music until my uni days. Their music, together with a very few other bands, survived in time and will so for some decades. (I’m not sure even U2 can match over time with you guys). I miss you guys as a band/team with your the talents combined.

[@plonkgenius72]

wotever reasons alan had,depeche created their best work in the years he was in the band.FACT!

[@salozmen29]

Their music hasn't been the same since he left. What a shame.

[@brunodelacruz06]

I don't think so. They are still good because they haven´t betrayed their ideals even without the magnificient arrangements made by Alan.

[@montseojosdebruja1610]

El mejor componente que ha tenido Depeche mode. Alan y Martin desde que se fue nada es igual ojala volviera al grupo es un genio

[@VB-3]

Alan Wilder is Depeche Mode without the rest. The rest will never be Depeche Mode without Alan.

[@livingwonderlands8171]

Miss Alan Wilder... DM needs him!!

[@faithanddevotion]

Alan was able to help get the best out of Martin's songs and words. Alan matched the right melody, music, sounds and atmospheres to extract and elevate the emotions of Marts words. His musical sensibility and ingenuity with Gore's words were like chocolate and peanut butter, too grate tastes that go great together.

[@toniamark]

I'm dying here! I would just buy everything. EVERYTHING.

[@aabbcc3804]

alan wilder com certeza uma peça fundamental no depeche, tomara que volte um dia para a banda!

[@romeonarcizo]

The best DM albums was when ALAN was in the group.When he leaves the group make more alternative music.

[@luvacav]

MegaMikss You think you are so self righteous. Instead you come across as rude, cruel snob. Your opinion is a worthless diatribe. 👎

[@markusdaxamouli5196]

Masses and Violator are hard era and albums to beat.

[@sabrinadesiero]

Their greatest loss!!

[@MohamedAmineMeftahi-p7f]

Alan wilder groupe depeche mode my favorit..... 2023-lundi 17 juillet depeche mode forever❤❤❤.. From algeria: oran 🇩🇿🇬🇧

[@sacrebleu1697]

DM died in 1995 when he left the band. This band Is just a cash machine now, no more creative fire. I love them so much since i was 12 in 1985! I still listen them but only the LP ‘s with the great Alan wilder.

[@DxModel219]

Alan pushed DM to its limits… the band couldn’t take the fame and stress. Now they just make music for fun which is Zzzzzzz. And yes I believe alot of their popularity is from Alan era and thats what most fans come to see them play when they tour. I mean come on do you think most of the fans know the words to John the Revelator or Enjoy the Silence or even Somebody. lol

[@KuroMicra]

Totally agree. SOFAD all but killed DM. Alan’s departure has shown just how much his contribution to DM is missed and, having bought tickets for their forthcoming MM show in Glasgow next year, can agree that, he’s, they have become a cash cow and the ticket prices are nothing short of obscene.

[@schalana101]

Alan has an interesting talent within him... very avant garde.

[@mightymightyironhead]

I kind of get the fealing that Wilder cares more about Depeche Mode than the rest of the group.

[@thelordfosk]

So agreed. He took the peices, what Martin had in the way of odd yet extraordinary levels of lyrical creativity and Dave's wonderfully inflexible depths of baritone, and created something so immeasurably beautiful and timeless. He came in and father Depeche Mode. He set the vision, he was the master architect. This man had passion but he was undervalued. When you know your worth you know when it's time to go.

[@tmf1977]

I've been watching the remaster DVD's which were released with the re-mastered classics (CTA, SGR, BC, MFTM), and both Martin and Fletch commented how important Alan was in the band. Sad the kudos were a little late, but at least Alan reunited with DM at Royal Albert Hall. I still love DM, but my heart always sinks a bit when a new record is released, and Alan is still not part of it.

[@s.t.8898]

ALAN =DEPECHE MODE SOUND.DANKE...FRIEDEN und FREIHEIT...

[@ohoganroad]

I live in manchester and would have loved to attend the auction but was stuck in work all day. Got to say what a really nice down to earth person Alan comes across as.

[@davekha9206]

This really breaks the heart.

[@rob5hh]

"Dave is the Singer, Martin is the Song writer, Alan is the GREAT MUSICIAN, and I just bum around" - Andy Fletcher, DM 101 film. Yes, that was a direct quote from Andy himself. I can't believe anyone would give Andy any credit. Some might say he's already ousted from the band considering Peter Gordeno and Christian Eigner get more exposure from bandmates, Dave and Martin. Eigner actually helps Dave write songs and has become his own 1 man show on live performances.

[@koukimonzta]

He is the clapper

[@BBnose]

seems selling some parts of my childhood memories.

[@null11amorph]

what a funny moment. alan in the same position, attitude, willingness, enthusiasm as he was in 101 while explaining how keyboards work to pennebaker. not to mention the black celebration sounds! also, I love the interviewer's voice.

[@rcaive0875]

Those keyboards were already incredibly expensive to begin with. Now that Alan's fingers have tickled the keys & controls, I can't even imagine the value.

[@rbrtck]

Well, for what it's worth, in late 2018 the actual Roland Jupiter 8 (or JP-8) that Alan used in the studio and on stage in DM's earlier years was sold for only $12000, which is at the low end of what a Jupiter 8 in similar condition goes for on eBay. It even came with a certificate of authenticity signed by Alan, but I've seen others with no notable provenance go for more. That's kind of sad.

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

@@rbrtck I guess vintage synths don't currently have the same collectability as say vintage guitars, especially as electronic groups like Depeche probably used so many of them just to make one recording after their early years

[@Abruzzo333]

@@rbrtck Jupiter 8's do not normally go for 12 grand. More like 8....and they can be found cheaper.

[@rbrtck]

@@Abruzzo333 All I did was a quick search on past sales on eBay, and that was the result I got at the time. Maybe they're generally cheaper now for whatever reasons. I also looked more closely at a couple of the past listings, and didn't see anyone famous associated with those synths. Besides, even if there were added value by association, I personally would expect it to be a lot more than a 50-100% markup, at least among fans. I just thought it was kind of sad. Don't get me wrong, as I love Alan (in a strictly platonic manner based on his art), and think that DM has been greatly diminished musically without him. I just expected a lot more from collectors. I wonder whether he did, too.

[@juangonzalez6155]

My last DM concert was "Songs of Faith and Devotion", after that, I just quit paying attention to DM work as with no doubt the spirit in the band was gone. Long life Allan Wilder!!

[@lolam.9291]

I agree!

[@thelordfosk]

He knew his value and therefore he had to leave. Alan you are a God to us. We love you.

[@gleikasantos8919]

i am utterly devastated to know that there is someone on this earth that owns that wardrobe of clothes and it's not me

[@matteach2]

You can hear a tinge of disappointment in the interviewer's voice about not getting back on stage with other members of DM.

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

1:28 That's what touched by the hand of god looks like.

[@deloreanized]

WALKING IN MY SHOES in the background... AWESOME. It's funny, keeping in mind Alan admitted it's one of DM's 2 biggest achievements... being IN YOUR ROOM the other one. Personally, I have to agree.

[@tmf1977]

I think the auction had more or less to do with Alan's divorce from his second wife, and his g/f expecting Alan's third child at the time. I don't think it had anything to do with DM. Shame that he had to sell some things while the music industry is loaded with so many no talents.

[@GloriaMoncada]

Alan Wilder was my favorite Depeche Modian because of his demeanor & other reasons. In this video he looks like an artist I dated some years back so, whatever on the negatives anyone says about him appearance-wise. He looks even more interesting with age & could pass for a french painter in this one. Really glad he's doing his thing cuz I had no idea what he had been up to & am now catching up! Always admired that he was a great musician along as well a great photographer back in the day.

[@tangfors]

He is absolutely missed in DM, however Recoil deserves mutch more recognition. It takes more listings and are probably closer to Massive Attack then DM, but dame it is masterful. Allan doesn't really have too be in DM, but i am Surprised that they don't try too get him back as a producer.

[@Rascallucci]

Basically, in a nutshell, Alan Wilder got fxxked over by Depeche Mode. He is just too nice a guy and the rest of them just ripped him off.

[@myparadiseing]

Alan is comparable to a Formula 1 driver of a Ferrari race car: the car would be only appreciated in the hands of a professional driver, and so goes for Alan being the hands behind Depeche Mode's music.

[@陳刀仔-k6d]

DM owe u a lot! u deserve a position in DM! The best songs of DM were once when u Alan were in DM!

[@teamklaytron6194]

Omg I was just listening to Walking In My Shoes right before I started this video

[@vitavomloehberg]

You'll stumble in his footsteps ! Take care

[@LMB222]

Its a pure irony rhat he, fhe ultimate nobody, stayed in Depeche Mode, while Fletcher, who was the band, was forced to leave.

[@spacyfreak]

Its the TEAMWORK that made it successfull, and of cause its also helpfull to have some "talent". Gore is an excellent songwriter - and songs are written on guitars so you find out fastly if the SONG is good or not. Wilder was an excellent arranger and producer. Fletcher maybe is a good organizer, gahan is a charismatic frontman. The puzzles make the picture. I am sorry that alan left - anyway, thanks to him and BEST WISHES... best wishes... from GERMANY

[@antoniocarter9913]

Fletcher is useless and a bum

[@yuria_nihilisten]

Miss him these days!!

[@Beletrange]

I WANT THAT JACKET! BLACK LEATHER FOREVER

[@jesshris3333]

DM need's you Alan :(

[@aisei9452]

I doubt Martin and Dave think so.

[@SOLOLULA2]

ALAN WILDER 💯💯💯🎶🎵🎶❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🎵🎶🎵💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯❤️❤️

[@wattage2007]

No he is NOT! Fletch hasn't been "responsible for bass" since 1980. His vocal mic doesn't even go through the front of house mix, only in his own mix - he is musically talentless. He's just Martin's oldest pal, and that's why he's in the band.

[@rob5hh]

Learn to read! YOURE the one who has it twisted. I never said Alan wrote songs, I said he wrote the MUSIC! That's two different things. Musical notes, chords, beats etc. You may've noticed Dave Gahan has written a few songs on DMs last couple albums, but you will also notice he gives copyright credit to drummer Christian Eigner for helping him write the MUSIC that compliments his songwriting. Martin Gore NEVER gave Alan any copyright credit for all the classic MUSIC he composed. Shame on him.

[@simonapopescu3171]

YOU WILL BE AGAIN IN DM.IS A PROMISE.:)GOD BLESS YOU MR WILDER.YOU ARE UNIK.

[@DxModel219]

I’m Still waiting... for the night to fall... when everything is unbearable...

[@carlobotti1462]

Majestic and great Alan! Let me show you the tears in my eyes...I miss Alan a lot. Depeche is not Depeche anymore without Alan! I'll never forgive Dave and Martin, who are continuing to reject and rule out any reunion with Alan, above all now that Fletch's died and to be all 3 together (Dave, Martin and Alan) could be a special opportunity to commemorate him and to go back to the roots.

[@traciepearce1888]

Love the moustache Alan and you look good with age.👍

[@SyntheticFilms]

Future guest producer on the next DM album??? Please consider it....

[@GoldenBuddhaJoe]

Yes, you're 100% right... Alan really was a driving force in DM and their sound. I always said it and it's good to know that others know the truth! ALAN! WE MISS YOU!

[@bluberrychamp3801]

GoldenBuddhaJoe ?

[@nicknasty14]

Alan Wilder was the driving force behind DM! When he left, they went way downhill. Put on live in hamburg 1984 and just watch Alan. He is a machine! Guy is doing most of it and Gore doing some good shit too. Fletcher back there pretending to do more than just waving a stick around. Yea, Alan is DM!!!

[@abbyboyone]

nicknasty14 for the record, fletch claps really well

[@rikimarudonchelie1229]

Their new release sound sterile to my taste. Alan was the genius behind the keys to their sound after he took Vince Clarke job.

[@maltygoodness2]

Actually he's still spunky for someone who's past half a century. Considering their former wild and excessive lifestyles, DM members look remarkably unravaged by time, save for a few wrinkles here and there and a few members' middle age spread. For such mega stars, they seem to be amazingly personable and have no airs about them to point of being self-effacing. No wonder they've got such a loyal global following.

[@MultiBiski]

Im so respect Mr. Alan Wilder. I really hope you come back to Depeche one day

[@summerthyme71]

God I love him.

[@IvanaGaiden]

Oh Alan come Back it’s been tooo long

[@claudiaflores2663]

Mi amor alan eres el mejor 😍😍😍😍💋💋💋💋❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@mutantbaby1672]

Without Alan Wilder, dm is now just a pale shadow of its former glorious self.

[@pocojoyo]

Mutant Baby and without Depeche Mode Alan WIlder is broke as fuck LOL

[@pocojoyo]

***** oh youre butt hurt cause Alan Wildr is broke :(

[@mullershein8077]

They´re still there!

[@katarzynawygleda1091]

W dupie byłeś, gówno widziałeś

[@DieMenschMaschine85]

He seems like a pleasant chap.

[@claudiaflores2663]

Es mi amor me encanta cuando nos regala un pedacito de black celebration 😍😍😍😍😍💋💋💋❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@mot00rzysta]

I'm hoping DM finally invite him to produce/participate anyhow in this next album they're about to write/they're writing....fingers crossed

[@quasar297]

No 😭

[@gustavoyanez7818]

Genio y maestro alan wilder

[@RTK171]

I Agree he is a genuis and I think DPM was not the same after his departure 😣 Martin was the ideas man Alan was the man that put the ideas into to awesome music and yes he seems like a really nice guy too ! He did write 1 song I think and he sang it too ?? Or parts of it I think it was lie to me???

[@bjarneniesen6424]

1 song ^^ i belive that Two minute warning , the landscape is changing, if you want and in your memory is written by Alan . they went from being a popular industrial synth band to be a popular medium messed up band without control . Dm replaced Alan with two medium skilled players and their sound quality live is so poor in form of the small details and mono instead of stereo delay when needed isnt there anymore Alan Wilder was Depeche Mode inform of the sound Depeche modes current success is because of sellouts and the mass media manipulation / no real hit since Alan left the band . i just left their last concert in copenhagen after 2 songs the bar was amazing ;) Alan is a genius

[@patrikeriksson1884]

Bjarne - don't forget Fools, which he also wrote. And he co-wrote The great outdoors and Christmas Island with Gore.

[@stratuspei9405]

There is still time to patch things up. Hope the remaining DM members (Alan, Dave and Martin) re-unite. It will be so awesome **fingers and toes crossed**

[@EM.1.]

This musician made Depeche Mode Depeche Mode. Dave messed up the band with his drugs. What a baby.

[@LemzisMilpis]

I miss Alan as well and I largely agree with you. BUT he did not write the music. The precise term is he ARRANGED the music - those are two different things.. Gore came up with actually complete songs /music and Alan gave them his own treatment. In Dave's case he has really co-written songs from the start. Alan himself has never claimed co-ownership of any Martin's songs, He was just pissed(and rightly so) about the fact that Fletch earned as much as he did without any real musical contribution.

[@abbyboyone]

Rihards Mucins yeah

[@NOWtheband]

Blimey, he must be properly sick of people asking him if he's going to be doing anything more with Depeche Mode. Bless him and his evident patience and (pushing-it's-limits) tolerance, ha ha! ;-)

[@eastlake93]

I wondered about their set-up, I knew Dave did just voice, and Gore did most writing, but I wondered about how they interacted as a unit. Where can get more info. I am huge fan, and have been emersed in their songs and melodies that seem to speak to me directly.

[@LordIzonubware1111]

I wouldn't take your things but if your up for auction all I can do is give you my heart I can love you I just need someone to demonstrate love to me my realationships were abusive and cold but I still have love in my heart ❤

[@gustavo2100]

VOLVÉ ALAN... VOLVE!!!!!! COME BACK!!!!! MONTHS TURN INTO YEARS...

[@noircluck]

@sugarbabylobve I agree, to me the sound of classic Depeche mode, never as good after he left.

[@Aldebaran69]

How much is the price to buy Him in the auction?

[@summerthyme71]

IKR?!

[@unviajeaitaca]

Oh my God! The 1:23 reminds me of this other video when he was really young. Same song, same expression. This was so sweet! Look at this minute and then this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGm3iZ2ejKiEhqc

[@p0531d0n]

@jkjojk That is no coincidence :) DM at that time designed sounds by recording samples in the EMU-s, tweaking them, playing the sounds through guitar amps and other "modifiers", then re-recording the tweaked sound and putting it back in the keyboard again to play with. So the "atmosphere" of the sounds he played on the EMAX, is actually "in the sound". This is why you actually have the same "feel" to it :) I admire this guy, such a brilliantly clever sound designer :D

[@beenthere6769]

depeche mode is martin and dave

[@Kppot]

"as Fletch is just dancing" - lol so true

[@dddux]

Yeah, my impression is that DM nowadays is just dragging on the old fame. Even though, I just can't stop loving Martin Gore's lyrics. A song or two definitely comes up every now and then that I really like. But I used to like the every song on the album at the time.

[@abbyboyone]

dddux this

[@pangrac1]

Nice person.

[@smooth111012]

A master at work

[@sandyvera4220]

puffff ... el gran Alan Wilder .... ! ! ! :3

[@rob5hh]

For your information, Alan Wilder has been busy producing for other bands, and made up his own in the process. He doesn't care to be HUGE, he's just doing something he LOVES to do! And contrary to what you think, he didn't leave to "test the waters" as a solo artist, he left because he wasn't appreciated!

[@stanislav182000]

as far as I know "If You want to be with me" belongs to A.Wilder. Maybe I am wrong.

[@boris_ev]

It's called "If You Want", and it does, along with "Two Minute Warning", "The Landscape Is Changing" and some B-sides: "Fools" and "In Your Memory".

[@markusdaxamouli5196]

If I were to gave two wishes...Id love that dual keyboard and Alan HAPPILY still in Depeche Mode. Course if he was stillnin band he may need his Keyboard and Id happily forgoe that wish.

[@martielondon]

He looks so different now 😊

[@sylwiazablockatatara1237]

He is order now.😉👍

[@tds6599]

AW is a fucking musical genius.

[@The.Last.Guitar.Hero.]

wow I'd have loved to go along to this

[@cfcreative1]

Good job man move on. You have the talent and that is what matters.

[@emaxsp]

Alan is one of the best, and I hope he come back to DM in a future, but what do you think about a meeting with Wilder, Gaham, Fletch, Gore, and ...... Vince Clarke .

[@CW2SCOGG]

Hey man, its called being 'over 40', we all get there sometime...you will too