Alfa Brera 2.4 JTDM 200 HP | Review | 100-200 km/h Accereration & 239 km/h Top speed on Autobahn

[@serpentcrown]

"Heck ist gewöhnungsbedürftig, vor allem die 4 Auspuffrohre" das ist eines der Schönsten Autos die jemals gebaut worden sind! Du hast keine Ahnung! :)

[@DignitasCars]

Schönheit ist immer subjektiv 😉

[@dreammachine86]

The Brera is a lovely looking car. I have a real soft spot for Alfas, my first ever car was a 1.6 petrol 147. Not bought an Alfa since though, they always look beautiful but rarely have the performance to back it up. At least they put more than a 1.9/2 litre 4 cylinder as the top diesel model. 5 cylinder engines are just cool! According to Wikipedia the 2.4 JTDM got up to 214bhp in the Spider and 440Nm of torque in the Brera. Although BMW and VW have pushed their 2 litre diesels to similar levels using twin turbos and Alfa was also up against the 2.5/3 litre 6 cylinder diesels from their German competitors. What surprises me is that you don't actually get that much more performance going for the 3.2 V6. They really should have had a hotter petrol engine (forced induction v6 or an n/a v8) with the 4wd system mapped for a rear-drive bias as the flagship model. Also find it interesting that the Q4 4wd system was only available with the V6 petrol engine even though it would've been ideal for the JTDM too. I like the little turbo gauge in the instrument cluster! I suppose all the diesels and the later 1.75 TBi would've had that... If I can one day afford it I would love to get a 3.2 V6 Q4 Brera and have Autodelta supercharge it (along with all the other upgrades they have done on similar builds...I've read that they have supercharged both the Prodrive front-wheel drive models that were set up with sportier suspension and brakes, and also Q4 models too).

[@DignitasCars]

Yeah true, they look faster than they really are. 😅 Nevertheless 5 cylinder diesel engines are quite exotic, which makes sense to put in such a car 😃 A 300 hp+ engine would have been nice back then. How much costs such a supercharger upgrade for the 3.2 V6?

[@nvl2691]

@@DignitasCars The supercharger costs as much as the car (8k euro). Not worth it - you can get almost 300 hp by changing the entire exhaust system (including exhaust manifolds) and remapping it!

[@renetnk]

Jts engine Is no go, 2.4jtdm with remap Is quicker and definitely better handling car without that big and slow v6 infront. But if you want q4, you must go for 159. Sadly

[@michelangeloboldri9893]

The 4 cyl diesels were(JTDm) were used in Lancia and Saab, more importantly with 2 turbos and made 190 hp there. VAG was really behinf with implentation of CR and I wouldn't compare it - the 2.0 TDI that did have CR was way worse on reliability, power and smoothness than the 1.9s and 2.0s. I honestly suspect that the old stereotype made the decision - not to give 2 turbos and 190-200 hp from a 4 cyl. And the ignorant idiots will praise " the awesome Saab or Opel 2.0 diesel" which is literally just an Alfa engine - for its durability. Car world is full of idiots. The 159/Brera platform is just too heavy imho. The 147 you had has A LOT in common with the original Delta when it comes to suspension ( the setup is extremely close in the back and even better in the front, GT/147/156 have the same setup and it is derived from the Delta - created by the same people from Lancia-Abarth Rally Team, that were moved in 1993 to Alfa for DTM and then stayed for productions cars. As far as I am aware - and I could be mistaken/simply wrong - the 159/Brera platform was legally destined to come from GM and there was nothing that could be done. And so it has a COMPLETELY different, truly Alfa suspension setup - but the floor itself will have stayed. That of course explains why Vectra did so badly in the moose tests which the 159 and e90 won ( with Alfa in the 1st place) But it also explains the weight. I wish there was another way of noting handling on paper than just G numbers. Corners and speeds can be very different. If handling was noted, in another way, than lap times and Gs ( lap times are dictated by power also) more people would buy those cars.

[@dreammachine86]

@@michelangeloboldri9893 That's some really interesting information, thanks! I'm a bit disappointed with Alfa's current range as they only have the larger Giulia and the SUV models. I really prefer my smaller cars, hot hatches and coupes. So I'd be much more interested in the Giulietta and MiTo - especially if they had done an even hotter version of the MiTo. It seems like smaller powerful cars are on the way out, with smaller electric cars and sporty SUVs being where the interest is. I remember reading articles about Fiat/Stellantis' revival plans for Alfa a while back, that in addition to the on-trend SUVs they would also be looking at a rear-drive platform that could be used not just for a saloon but a Giulietta replacement plus, compact coupe and luxury coupe. Doesn't seem like that is where they will go now although I did read about their concept for an all electric Spider which would be cool. Probably my best bet if I want to get an Alfa again but have no interest in the saloon or bigger models would be a used Giulietta Quadrifoglio but then it never really set the car world on fire but it does look lovely for a hatchback. I test drove the 1.4 turbo petrol version once and didn't feel like it had much performance, probably down to the weight. But if I had the budget for a Quadrifoglio I could also look at the Audi S1, another discontinued small performance car that would almost certainly drive better and be more reliable.

[@endlandmusic]

Die Brera ist eines der überflüssigsten Autos, die je gebaut wurden... deswegen habe ich eine. Sie hat nur einen Zweck: sie ist einfach nur SCHÖN. Es ist eine Alfa Romeo und du solltest besser bei deinen Kriterien bei den Poser Audi BMW Benz bleiben... Meine JTDM geht deutlich schneller ohne Tuning und 13 Liter hat sie noch nie genommen... Kleine Anmerkung: Alfas sind weiblich 😀

[@DignitasCars]

Das Alfas weiblich sind wusste ich nicht. Danke für den Hinweis👍 Im Wikipedia-Artikel zum/zur Brera steht zumindest "er" drin, also so eindeutig ist das anscheinend gar nicht 😀 Dass der/die Brera ein wunderschönes Fahrzeug ist, gib ich dir vollkommen recht. Abgesehen vom Heck, das ist echt nicht so mein Fall. 😅 Nichts desto trotz ist Optik eine subjektives Kriterium. Zahlen hingegen sind mehr oder weniger objektiv und deswegen fällt bei mir Optik als Kriterium leider raus. Was braucht denn deine Alfa von 100-200? Hast du das mal gemessen?😀 Ein Vergleich an der Stelle wäre sehr spannend, da ich immer noch der Meinung bin, dass diese Alfa keine 200 PS hat.

[@rotorblade9508]

It sounds very nice although it’s a diesel

[@DignitasCars]

I think so too 😃 5 cylinder engines sound always beautiful😂

[@denizuysal9188]

Diesel is love 🖤Diesel sound always better for me

[@bubu5863]

@@DignitasCars ja wirklich, es hört sich so, als wenn der ein benziner wäre. Gefällt mir. 😍 Sonst ist das eigene Brera?

[@timj41]

I had opportunity to buy 6 speed manual 2.4 D , 07 model with around 140,000kms . I started it up and it was pretty tough to start (probably swirl flaps or egr) and the body was a bit rough . It was very cheap and the guy is an alfa mechanic so maybe I should ? He is pretty trustworthy and works on my son’s 147 TS, what he doesn’t know about them isn’t worth knowing

[@fabianmucllari5799]

Sound like my fiat punto 1.3 mjt🔫

[@nojustno7530]

I love how this car looks but damn it hurts to see it so slow.

[@DignitasCars]

Yes you are absolutely right. It looks so fast but is soo slow :(

[@rotorblade9508]

0-100 7.9s which is above average cars but there are more powerful options available or maybe a stroker kit and remap can make it much faster?! Most brands have smaller engine options

[@nojustno7530]

@@rotorblade9508 why bother ? For a bit more, you can get a 335i which easily gets to 500 bhp for less money. On top of it all, it has an adequate chassis unlike the heavy wobbly Brera. Every time I want ton get a car, the first option I check is Alfa, but 90 % of the time they fail to deliver. The only Alfa I regret not getting is the 156 gta wagon which costs a fortune now.

[@lebronnaumoskinn]

@@nojustno7530 try 159 SW 2.4 JTD in TI version

[@jorgkruger4791]

Also bei Vollgas 13. Liter ist wohl nicht viel. Mach das mal bei einem deutschen Auto. Glaubst du die brauchen nur 8 Liter? So ein Quatsch.

[@DignitasCars]

Was hat das mit deutschen Autos zu tun? Es wird demnächst ein Video kommen mit nem Diesel der deutlich mehr PS hat, welcher aber ziemlich sicher weniger brauchen wird. Nichts desto trotz muss ich dir Recht geben, dass es auch deutsche Autos gibt die bei ähnlicher Leistung einen ähnlichen Verbrauch haben. Siehe hier zum Beispiel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2K1dHSajM6bl6s

[@galahad8856]

Mein 90 PS Diesel A3 verbraucht auf der Autobahn bei 180-210 kmh 10 Liter...

[@jorgkruger4791]

​@@galahad8856sehr witzig. Der wiegt auch eine Tonne weniger und fährt niemals 230 Spitze 😂

[@marcog.345]

Non parli italiano ma ti regalo un ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@DignitasCars]

Thank you😊

[@canamsven671]

Du bist nur voll Gas gefahren ist doch klar das er da schluckt. Brauchst dich nicht beschweren. Mein Vw Passat mit 140 PS schluckt bei voll Gas genauso.

[@DignitasCars]

Damals hatte ich noch keinen Vergleich. Ein E250 CDI braucht bei selber Fahrweise das gleiche. Nen gechippter BMW 123D mit 250 Ps brauch knapp nen Liter weniger. Spitzenreiter bisher nen Mercedes C200 CDI mit unter 10L Verbrauch bei Dauervollgas. Kann sich jetzt jeder selbst ein Urteil bilden, ob der Verbrauch vom Alfa viel/angemesse/wenig ist 😀

[@canamsven671]

@@DignitasCars ich sag mal so ich hatte vor 4 Jahren einen 159 SW als 2,4 JTDM den habe ich bei 200 km/h mit 10 Liter gefahren . Ich muss aber sagen der war Gechipt. Meiner Meinung nach bei 230 km/h sind die 13 Liter ok.

[@MarkSC192]

I've got a 210bhp defapped and no Egr (no remap). It goes way way better. So, even if I never tried, I guess it should go over tachometer 240kph

[@DignitasCars]

If that would not be illegal in Germany, I woul d have removed the egr and DPF when I first got the Car 😅👍 Poor engine with all the bad restrictions😔

[@MarkSC192]

@@DignitasCars it's illegal in Italy too. Just... I don't care 😅

[@6six9nine74]

@@MarkSC192 That's the spirit! How much hp adds removing the egr?

[@MarkSC192]

@@6six9nine74 didn't test it on a dyno, sorry. For a benchmark, it should do 100-200 kph in less than 30 seconds for sure.

[@6six9nine74]

@@MarkSC192 Oh so it will surely make the car faster? That's good news. Because i don't really want to mess around with chip tuning on my 166

[@drincogni]

Drill the DPF the whole way with a masonry drill bit ,that will keep the DPF regens normal, no need to mod the ECU but allow the engine to breath, no back pressure, increase in horsepower and decrease in fuel consumption.

[@DignitasCars]

After the modification does the engine light turn on?

[@drincogni]

@@DignitasCars nope! No EML no check engine light drill in tge middle avoid all sensors.no smoke no issues when doing any test for car fitness, MOT etc

[@drincogni]

@@DignitasCarsthe car is at 123 000 km and my DPF was completely blocked unable to clean or regen or anything.either buy a new one or drill thru.i did the cheapest option and drilled.best decision i should have done that 7 years ago.instead of dealing with check engine light every month

[@drincogni]

@@DignitasCars the DPF goes to 100 % then does passive regen back to 0% again.i used 5w30 engine oil shell for DPF since 4 years and that took check engine light coming on from every week to every month instead.i even tried wynns dpf cleaner other the years.all that just delayed the inevitable!The DPF was so blocked water would not go thru it🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@drincogni]

@@DignitasCars my mechanic welded a thin metal rod/bar to the standard masonry drill bit and we attached the bar to my cordless drill and drilled.IF that had not worked i would have to sell the car and thats it especially with covid19 and lockdowns but now all goes perfect and even more the exhaust sound is better slightly more growlllllly.The hesitation of the engine is gone ,which i believe was due to backpressure also no more oil leaks at the turbo seals basicly no more backflow.

[@tkst0rm]

Great video and thanks for uploading. I have one myself. You should have pointed one camera to the fuel indicator because under hard acceleration those things are THIRSTY!

[@DignitasCars]

Yes, would have been really funny to watch how the fuel gauge decreases over 10 minutes fullthrottle😂 Are you happy with yours? Is it faster than this one here?😃

[@tkst0rm]

@@DignitasCars Yeah I am absolutely happy with it. I bought it from a private seller that didn't know a lot a about cars and didn't care much about them either, so much so that the timing belt was cracked all around. Apart from that no major issues just put diesel and go.

[@DignitasCars]

@@tkst0rm Wow cracked timing belt that sounds serious😯 Glad that you replaced it👍😅 So you have the same engine right?

[@tkst0rm]

@@DignitasCars Yes it's serious to the point of ruining an engine if it snaps due to fact that the 2.4JTDM is an interference engine. But luckily I had it checked before that very expensive noise that usually comes with a belt snap. Yes, I have the 2.4 oil burner ;) Regarding your question if it's faster, I wouldn't know how to answer since I have never clocked speeds or times with mine but it sure looks identical.

[@timj41]

Imagine 3.2 petrol for thirst 😱

[@mikemurdoch9882]

Epic for a diesel

[@DignitasCars]

This car is very emotional 😃 But there are faster diesel cars Out there 😅

[@BTJ76]

Slow Slow Slow. I love Alfa but this car is only beauty!!!

[@DignitasCars]

True😅. Its really slow, but looks amazing😊 What car do you drive?😄

[@coskunorsizmir]

because heavy. than because of General Motors platforms.

[@ottozimmermann9021]

Fahre seit 2a eine Brera 2.4 Diesel. Tolles Auto. Toller Sound. Leider in Realität nur ein 2+1 Sitzer. Durchschnittsverbrsuch 6,5l. Für die Leistung und das Gewicht... Respekt!!

[@Moister1990]

mega gutes video! gerne mehr davon 😃

[@DignitasCars]

Danke, Gib mir Mühe jedes Video besser zu werden.😅

[@DieZeugenCoronas]

hab nen brera mit 185ps ich dachte mein wagen hat irgend ein problem weil er so langsam auf 200 kommt. aber bei deinem is es ja auch so also scheinbar alles ok :D

[@DignitasCars]

Ja muss am schlechten CW Wert liegen 😅 Was geht deiner in der Endgeschwindigkeit?😃

[@DieZeugenCoronas]

mehr als 200 bin ich nie gefahren. hab ihn seit 3 wochen

[@DignitasCars]

Falls du es Mal testest würde ich mich freuen wenn du hier reinschreibst wie schnell er ging👍

[@demonicpowerz4782]

sind auch extrem schwer die böcke, also nicht wundern :)

[@eriktenhag2022]

No English subs? :(

[@DignitasCars]

Sorry😪

[@pijusprakapas9103]

that thing is so slow for 200hp😕

[@DignitasCars]

Yes I think this car has less than 200 HP 😔

[@giuistefanjr72]

@@DignitasCars the car has less than 200hp because it has engine problems. Dpf can be full and turbo stuck not delivering full power.

[@Dignitas1234]

@@giuistefanjr72 might be the turbo, No Error codes in the ECU

[@giuistefanjr72]

@@Dignitas1234 yes they are very nasty engines when comes to carbon build up. It throws errors when it's completely knackered like map sensor or egr ,turbo has sensor only on the commanded vacuum .

[@zetohd5625]

Feuerfeste Handschuhe- Du meinst es ernst!

[@DignitasCars]

Safety first 😂

[@hdgungor]

Have the 159 2.4 JTDm Sportwagon After a remap now at 300 HP 600 NM Amazing car and engine.

[@DignitasCars]

What did you do to achive 300 HP apart from a remap? 😊 DPF-off and EGR-off?

[@hdgungor]

@@DignitasCars yep and ad a downpipe. Only at 2 Bars now Next step is a bigger Turbo + better intercooler. We want to reach 400+HP and 750+NM 260 kmh is very easy to reach after the remap.

[@DignitasCars]

Did you measure 100-200? Would be very interesting how fast this car is with 300 HP 😁👍

[@hdgungor]

@@DignitasCars Dont have a autobahn here but ill try it soon

[@DignitasCars]

Please keep me updated👍

[@UnityDossK]

I got 159 1.9 jtdm 150ch dpf delete and it goes faster to 200

[@DignitasCars]

I guess the Brera has bad aerodynamics, and less than 200 HP 🙈

[@UnityDossK]

@@DignitasCars 2.4 is 210hp normally. But i think this one had some problem

[@DignitasCars]

In Germany Most of them have 200 HP. The 209 HP model is quite rare here😅

[@UnityDossK]

@@DignitasCars Oh, didn"t know that

[@giuistefanjr72]

@@UnityDossK exactly what i said before (turbo,swirl flaps ,intake full of carbon,dpf full)

[@ugurylmaz144]

Sounds like a low revving dodge viper :)

[@varticovidiu9894]

How many revs do you have in 6th gear at 120 Kms per hour?

[@DignitasCars]

A little bit over 2000 rpm

[@varticovidiu9894]

@@DignitasCars thanks for your swift reply. I had a lancia thesis 2.4 jtd and it had 2000 rpms at 120. Now I drive an Alfa Romeo 156 2.4 M-Jet and it has 2000 rpms at 110.

[@DignitasCars]

@@varticovidiu9894 I guess your Alfa 156 is then faster since the gear ratio is smaller than in the Brera/Lancia 👍

[@kristiyanivanov5055]

Interesting. My 159 1.9jtdm is getting 2000rpm when driving with 140km/h in 6th gear

[@varticovidiu9894]

@@DignitasCars yes It accelerates faster, but it has issues going more then 225 km per hour. It is hard for her to go faster after that speed.

[@ArgoPower]

❤

[@jorgkruger4791]

Wen interessiert der CW Wert. Das ist eines der schönsten Autos der Welt

[@snoopy8588]

Is this the stock car?

[@DignitasCars]

Completely stock, yes😃

[@snoopy8588]

@@DignitasCars Have you had much technical issues yet? And how much kilometers do you have? I was thinking about buying one (second hand), but the internet keeps telling me the car is unreliable...

[@DignitasCars]

@@snoopy8588 It has now done around 72.000 kms and sold it. It smelled like something was burning, when turning on the ventilation. So I was afraid of the car catching fire😅 It also did not ride that soomth, compared to other cars of that era (with identical kms and condition). It's true that it's not known for it's reliability. There are some things which tend to break, but they are not to expensive. E.g. the EGR-valve tends to break on this car. So I would suggest you to drive one and if you enjoy the ride, then there should be nothing wrong getting this car👍

[@snoopy8588]

@@DignitasCars thanks!

[@laturbine7793]

I have the first 156 2.4jtd 136 hp max speed 220 😂

[@DignitasCars]

Better than 239 kmh with 200 hp in the Bera 👍😂

[@rubenvalente]

1300kgs (Alfa 156) vs 1600kgs, that's the reason.

[@andreasniederalt1747]

Ist der boy richtig fly vor dem Video auf dem Schotterweg vor der Autobahn gepullupped und hat ein paar Bitches auf seiner Motorhaube gebangt. Sheesh richtiger Baller!

[@Машиныидругое-я3н]

Продаєш?

[@Alessandroleone86]

Хочеш купити?

[@blini1oo]

I would eat this with my 2.0 audi a3 170ps diesel

[@goncalomendes1512]

But who would see you eating the Brera if the people watching it would be focused looking at Brera`s design? eheh

[@arthousemkd]

Try to eat alfa romeo 147 ducati corse with that shitty vw audi🤣

[@mateuszkozik1166]

How the hell its slower than 1.9

[@DignitasCars]

A Alfa Brera was never built with the 1.9 engine. So if you compare it to other Alfa models you have to consider the very bad aerodynamics of the Brera.

[@mateuszkozik1166]

@@DignitasCars didnt know it havent same engines as 159, but its terribly slow thats a fact, maybe its too heavy?

[@sevenseems4917]

@@mateuszkozik1166 159 is heavier

[@giuistefanjr72]

@@DignitasCars aero is the same as 159 front end is the same,weight almost comparable. My 159 2.4 qtronic 1710 kg and runs faster than yours to 200. You have to delete the swirl flaps,clean the intake which restricts air, turbo is not delivering full power . I have also active dpf but i deleted the egr with a blank plate and there is a very large difference.

[@josefkocag3135]

Meiner fährst sich mit 320 ps deutlich besser

[@DignitasCars]

Was musstest du alles an deinem Alfa verändern, dass du auf 320 PS kommst?

[@josefkocag3135]

@@DignitasCars habe nur Ladeluftkühler und upgrade Turbo von jtd performance geholt Und eine offen ansaugung und Partikelfilter ersetzt gegen einen 200 zellen Sportkat ohne tüv.

[@DignitasCars]

Okay, da musste schon ordentlich an der Hardware geschraubt werden um die 320 PS zu erreichen 😅👍