Are You Depressed or Is Your Life a Mess?

Dr. Peterson and Dr. Chris Palmer discuss the importance of considering both biological and conceptual factors in understanding and treating depression.
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[@NicholasPR]

This was me. I was depressed when my life was a mess and didn't know how to clean it up. I was put on antidepressants and they robbed me of my life for nearly a decade. They took away my ability to feel despair, but also to feel joy. It took years before I could get off of them because the side effects were so bad. After I finally got off them in 2020, my life exploded in the best possible way and it keeps getting better. Clinicians need to consider that sometimes people just have terrible lives and feel powerless to fix them, and that makes them depressed. That's a sign of health, not sickness. I still struggle with despair sometimes mourning those lost years - my 20s. I'm 36 now and got off antidepressants at 32. I can't get those years back. Be careful of the choices you make.

[@privatebenfallsprivat8428]

But what did you change though? Getting off antibdepressants just brings you to the point you were at before taking those. There mist be something else you did to make your life better in the meanwhile

[@Kingzt369]

@@privatebenfallsprivat8428 i just got off them, 3 months in at 31. Serotonin makes you happy with what you have ( in my experience) and that has made me ok with having a messed up life for 13 years. If you don't hate your situation you wont change it. That has to be the worst side effect of anti depressants.

[@schmingusss]

Your best years are between 30 and 40. Everyone should be medicated in their 20's :)

[@michellecheng8992]

I’m turning 35 and missed my 20s exactly like this. I grieve the time lost and all I could experience in my 20s decade. but joyful I got my life back.

[@janethollinhead1874]

Nickolas God says in his Word he will return unto us the years that locust and cankerworm have eaten there is much more learned in the valleys than the mountain tops take heart my friend you will be fine I also was diagnosed with clinical depression tried many medications all had pretty impactful side affects my anxiety thus my depression was caused by my inability to control the situations I found myself in God reminded me I was never in control but He is Praise God for his mercy and much needed grace He absolutely delivered me from this earthly he’ll take my friend

[@mrhalos6770]

I think it’s both. Can’t barely feed the kids, have to pick and choose the bills we pay each month. The feeling of dread for the next day to come. I’m 41, never had a feeling like this before. I’m ready to throw the towel in. The world is just insane.

Stay strong.

[@eddiedevereoxford4995]

Like a knock-on effect, now they're suffering too and their whole lives will be defined by it.

[@jeffreyfernandez2037]

Ur gae

[@jeffreyfernandez2037]

I can't stand moaners

[@Svijetjeloptasarena]

Thats how I felt and then discovered magic 🍄. They were a game changer for ME. Wish you find something that will work for you, especially because you have children. Good luck 🤗

[@TheJacali]

Man I’ve been going to church this past year. Raised as an atheist. I remember just the other day being amazed at all the gathered families. I literally said to people that when I was growing up it felt like every family went and hid in their box. And it was tripping me out. The people have been so kind it’s been a great experience. My life is the opposite of together. I have health problems and no car and the church just moved location. It was right around the corner. A ton of people have offered me rides. I took a guy up on it and he’s like “I’m happy to serve!” And I thought that was so cool and such a good attitude.

[@lucya8916]

Sometimes I think that stupid or callous people don't tend to get depressed.

[@PoussinNoNeko]

Maybe, but there is also a personality disposition, people who are optimistic and don't dwell onto their past will less likely become depressed. I talk from experience. I don't get easily depressed, or it doesn't last.

[@motorhead4446]

Agreed

[@ResonantNewt]

Well , I'm almost retarded but I'm depressed since I was 13, now 26

[@jenniroman9574]

well you know what they say, ignorance is bliss.

[@Bocman1]

I'd also think that way, if I didn't know my brother

[@MrX_117]

I’m definitely in the group that wants more out of life. It wasn’t until I became aware that I wanted more and that what I currently had wasn’t enough that I started to become, overwhelmed by all the things I had to do in order to achieve what I wanted. What caused my anxiety and depression was that I wanted all the new things right now this instant. What helped me get through it was understanding that I wasn’t going to get it right away, but it was going to be a journey that would take some years to achieve. That to me helped alleviate the anxiety and the depression the idea that there is a road to get ahead and that I will have what I want one day.

[@IndianaJones-r5j]

Stay strong my friend. There are few things as valuable as trust in the road

[@Huckleberry04]

Dr Peterson, every post you make is like 1000 dollars worth of therapy. Your wisdom and my steps to recovery have been pushing me forward in such profound ways. I never progressed in counseling until you and my former Psychologist who has been helping me become a better more productive person. My faith has been the motivator to improve myself and be as Good of a person as possible and the wisdom you have to put it all together and tell me the whys I have always needed to know has me on the cusp of total healing. I can see the other side for the first time in my life. I am working on my fears and and learning to manage my emotions because I was told there is no cure, you can only learn to manage them. I have a feeling of hope every now and then that life could be worth it. 50 years of nihilism has robbed me of life. Depression and anxiety stole everything. At least what I have left wont be spent in complete misery because of you and the support of the few who saw beyond the emotions and cared enough to stick with me to help. I am so ever grateful God made you for this time.

[@richard84738]

Love the thinking that depression = "failure to integrate" that is such a profound yet simple definition of it. It's so true. I feel like my life is generally good yet I feel like I cannot integrate into extended family life, among coworkers, have only superficial friendships, etc. I want to be integrated into the wider community but somehow I can't, my brain doesn't let me or doesn't know how or deep down doesn't want to. How to overcome that is a question I can't seem to solve.

[@karenk2409]

I was horribly depressed when my life was a mess. I was in an abusive and violent relationship, and finally after years of trying to cope with it, finally fled for my life. Went through hell and back to get it un-messed. It was miserable, but over a pretty short period of time (2-3 years), with support of friends and counselor and lawyer and absolute determination to be better than I was, got undepressed. Anti-depressants were helpful in the beginning, but not necessary now. I replaced the life I was living with a healthy, purposeful life now. Amazing how that works.

[@mamabear090]

Same here! Three years after getting away from DA, I started experiencing this odd bubbly feeling. It was happiness!

[@RareAirTwo4]

You would be surprised how exercise, financial stability and a loving relationship fixes most depressed people.

[@Livingsamsara]

I've thought along the same lines before; namely that we need to take care of the External Mess and THEN if the Internal Mess is still present, take care of THAT. I was a daily drinker. I began to take care of everything else [externally] BUT the drinking & was still miserable. I finally committed to quit drinking (w/ the help of a 12 step program) and life turned excellently for me. It took time, but I had hope for the first time in years. That was 2003. I want to reiterate that stopping drinking may be the first step for some people & THEN get additional assistance if necessary.

[@chxseventura]

I was born in 2003, and just got sober. Daily drinker as soon as I started, wouldn’t wish it on anyone but it’s been a blessing. Hope you are doing well

[@Livingsamsara]

Thanks @@chxseventura & all the congratulations on getting sober. Staying sober (particularly through that first solar revolution was the rough!) may be hard in the beginning; but it gets worth it. I walked barefoot at night, through a sketch neighborhood to get away from my ex to get to a sober friend's house, point being; it can be challenging to maintain sobriety in the beginning. So again, many congratulations!

[@jjw9641]

Honestly, I find JBP is at his best when he is speaking about his clinical work. He's so obviously well informed and apolitical in the field of his clinical practice.

[@michaelw.8260]

I can totally relate to the first example they gave. I have been a high functioning depressed person most my life. I'm 53, I have a great family, job, money, etc. Some days I have a hard time continuing the life I have. I've had a high rate of suicide in my extended family. I'm glad I don't feel like taking my life. There have been times I thought about it, but have to keep myself on track to not go there. My daughter keeps me alive.

[@Sidowse]

My life is a mess because of depression, anxiety and insomnia. I am also really stupid and went from everything to nothing pretty fast.

[@DBELLTREE]

This short video discussion is so important. The content is remarkable digestible and to the point. So good.

[@davefisch-y1t]

Depression is both neurological and physical. But sometimes what’s not talked about in depression is the environment which you are in which amplified depressive symptoms.

[@Razear]

Diet and exercise are perhaps the most undervalued contributors of depression that the medical community conveniently chooses to suppress in favor of prescription drugs. We know that inflammatory foods like processed carbs and living a sedentary lifestyle are major factors that induce depression-related symptoms. These are the two big changes that people should make before seeking any sort of external intervention.

[@Gordonjosh1212]

MUCH RESPECT JORDAN PETERSON

[@Cymricus]

I’m so tired of hearing about brain pathways and disorders and all this, which is mostly just medication marketing talking points except in specifically egregious cases of severe mental illness. Much of what we call depression is burnout, exhaustion from life and being overworked, physiological responses to substance addiction, and not eating and exercising like we should.

[@nataliebutler]

My life is a mess but I've been depressed most of my life, which is part of the reason why. Vicious cycle.

[@InvestBetter.]

Are You Depressed or Is Your Life a Mess? Absolutely!

[@Unexpectedperspectivesnow]

Both.

[@KennethSee]

I’m always fascinated when two true experts in their field discuss that field. There’s no handholding. No dumbing down. They use terms I have to look up. It’s so refreshing!

[@grunklebob9009]

I KNOW depression, been treated twice. The trauma I have now is NOT causing depression. I just have to pick up EVERY piece of my life and start over. It is OVERWHELMING, but surprisingly not depressing. Dr Peterson AND Dr Palmer helped LOTS with that :) Brain Energy is a VERY Powerful book...

[@jbird2698]

Or C) their life plan is still missing a critical element of genuine satisfaction, and their current condition only provides superficial wholism, hence leaving them unfulfilled

[@Jt-Jt]

Thank you for this. But I feel that perhaps some of the people in the first scenario were convinced by society that they wanted that “perfect” life. Now that they have it, I wonder if they are realizing that it was not necessarily what they really wanted deep down. Now they feel stuck because they have all of these people depending on them. By all accounts everything is going well, but you are still stuck.

[@dropYourVideo]

I think in many cases the fundamental problem is that someone is living a life that he/she thinks others think that is how you should live your life or how you should be as a human. So in short. I believe the fundamental cause of depression is lack of connection which is fundamentally caused by not being your true self.

[@understandingyourself]

Important true point

[@heikodatchi3715]

Great clip. A must watch for everyone depressed or not

[@jesserhodes7430]

Dig into your responsibilities to others, thats where you'll find meaning and the strength to keep moving. The other option is to quit and admit defeat. I tell my kids, "ive seen people with less accomplish more," how bad do you want it.

[@spark556]

Yes

[@mrs.wallin4264]

Lack of purpose can be found in both.

[@cold_static]

"Are You Depressed or Is Your Life a Mess?" Yes

[@TravisHall-q1y]

Man im 30. Ive been working since 13. I deal with childhood trauma, losses of family and friends to suicide and drug usage. Former addict myself. Im in a spot where im making more money than i thought i would. Yet its not enough. Inflation is running high, its hard to find a significant other due to being out of touch social media wise. Im just not into it. Life is slowly passing by in front of me. I can see myself working till i die alone. Shit is depressing i dont care how you slice it

[@bigchief2331]

Yep feel the same way and im 31. I only work casually with my dad in a small family business and still feel absolutely miserable and like I have no time or ability to make friends, find a partner, buy some land etc. Time is absolutely flying these days and I can see that I am going to die alone.

[@MLopez836]

One thing to keep in mind it’s that they could also not see how bad their family life is and that could be because that’s how they grew up. My parents didn’t fight but they barely talked to each other and I didn’t see it as bad. The same thing was happening in my marriage and I didn’t know how bad that was. I was miserable and now I know why. I know everyone says having good communication is the best thing for marriage but I didn’t know how that looked. Now that I know about good communication. I know it means talking about everything to that person you love and that person showing that they are listening and caring about what you have to say even if they don’t necessarily like the subject . Also you have to be friends with them meaning actually having things you both like and want do and talk about.

[@levity90]

The day Jordan allows someone else to fully flesh out a thought without interrupting with his own thoughts/opinions is the day hell freezes over. 10x better as a lecturer when he is the only one speaking.

[@jakubzneba1965]

i despise people who have all and they try to be victim of feelings

[@wexwuthor1776]

Your brain making you depressed in order to get you to get a life seems counter-productive. Being depressed makes everything more difficult.

[@justmadeit2]

Agree especially when it’s severe depression

[@ResonantNewt]

My life is a tragic failure so I'm depressed

[@Mike-ig4kj]

Plus everyone measures happiness differently.

[@pennyd3194]

Thanks Richard

[@gonkmaster717]

Both. Both is good.

[@melissalovelady5459]

I'm 52 yo and was diagnosed with depression in 2007 and was given an antidepressant which helped at the time, although not completely resolved. The past 5-7 years it's like the depression is stronger than the medication and overcomes me and I am just SO TIRED. It is a marrow deep exhaustion that incapacitates me. Each episode brings me closer to giving up. I wonder if I'd had the good fortune of having Jordan Peterson as my doctor if I'd be healthy now instead of deteriorating?

[@quees1521]

Look up carnivore. It helped me in many ways. Also, Dr. Georgia Ede

[@cav6929]

Hurts to hear and realise that my young adulthood have been spent in near total misery because I don’t have a life as I’ve had no friends, no close/intimate relationships with people except a couple of family members and no job where I have purpose and years wasted trying to get a good job and even get a life with no improvement and nothing to show. Isn’t your youth meant to be the happiest days of your life? Guess you can’t have any happy days with no life.

[@PoussinNoNeko]

May we know if there were any particular reasons why you didn't have a life?

[@Verbux]

@@PoussinNoNeko All you need is parents to support you or unemployment benefits to have no life. If you were always on the outskirts of social groups, it is very easy to fall out of society by pursuing short term gratification. Getting your life together is a miracle, and I thank god for any progress I make.

[@mikebrisebois]

I believe in order to function properly there’s three dimensions to people. There’s the body, there’s the mind, and there’s the spirit. If you solve all the problems of the body..(diet, exercise) Then you solve all the problems of the mind (educating yourself.) But you don’t focus at all on your spirit or eternal life. I don’t think you can be happy. I think your spiritual life is primary And your temporary physical life and your mind has to be secondary. Maybe first things first and the others fall into place.

[@kobold7763]

Yea, when they mention being successful in a career, making money, having support and love from a spouse and or your children, they also have to factor in the fulfillment of the soul or spirit and their view of a higher power, which all of man deems more important than anything even if they don’t know it and this can trigger undying depression due to a lack of purpose, even if the lack of purpose is in the unconscious more or less. Everyone has this spiritual need and emptyness pop up at some point or another when it’s not fulfilled, but it’s often harder and harder to recognize and take action about it when one moves further up the ladder in terms of wealth and then uses that wealth to excess and hedonistic lifestyles/distractions etc.

[@nicko9046]

At least someone here gets it!

[@deusexaethera]

It's not really "or". You're depressed _because_ your life is a mess. Long-term stress will prevent your brain from cycling through its normal levels of alertness during the day, over the long term resulting in synaptic desensitization to a flood of neurotransmitters and also a depletion of the nutrients required to make those neurotransmitters. Eventually your brain won't be able to function "normally" except when it's on high-alert, which is a biologically unsustainable condition to be in, and the symptoms progress from neurological to psychological as your malfunctioning brain becomes incapable of processing your internal and external experiences properly. At that point the only cure is medication to reduce the symptoms and a LONG period of reduced stress, usually years long, to allow your neurology to readjust its operation back to somewhere close to baseline. (source: I lived through it, studied it, and learned from several professionals what was happening.)

[@melissalovelady5459]

I would really appreciate more information from you. This resonates for me.

[@flobba123]

Ive been having a hard time with deppression and chronic pain, finally i might get my first job when im 33 so I can get a life.

[@brunamazzurega7845]

The link for the full video is directing for a another video and not the one with Dr. Palmer.

[@gallevran]

I think both groups suffer from lack of meaning. I also know from a sample of one (me...haha, plus maybe a dozen ppl I know. Im the only one I know that healed from severe depression of 3 decades, although I was fully functioning, family, kids, etc, and recovered only after finding meaning) that the functioning group's condition, if they're not encouraged and actively guided to find meaning, will soon enough decline, and very badly. I honestly believe, will all due respect (really, no sarcasm) that Dr. Palmer's statements are misleading and potentially harmful 🙏🏼 Love you Dr. Peterson. You're the man!!

[@quibblegaze]

0:00: 💡 Understanding depression as a mental health condition characterized by excess pain, decreased positive emotion, and overwhelming negative emotion. 2:38: 💊 Distinguishing between biological and psychological factors in treating depression. 5:30: ⚖️ Distinguishing between normal pain and pain disorders in the context of depression. 8:56: 💡 The importance of social integration for mental and physical well-being. 11:23: 💡 Factors contributing to mental illness can be physiological, requiring thorough diagnosis before psychological intervention. Timestamps by Tammy AI

[@StevenHennessey-ks4mz]

I have been on antidepressants for years that have not worked or made my problems worse I have a medical problem primary hypogonadism and when I was put on the testosterone after a few weeks I noticed a improvement in my mood I went from a introvert to a extrovert I have just been put back on it I'm hoping my mood will improve soon and other symptoms connected with the problem

[@steveascension9626]

Something to really ponder!

[@Sam-cv8fkGreatlandnews]

When i went off prozac it was the best time of my life 10 years ago then i became a monster and im unbreakable now

[@BS-jv5ib]

What is about the past or specially the childhood? Sometimes there are unconscious triggers to bad happenings in the childhood. Maybe there was a very early loss of a beloved person in the age of 4/5. And years later after repressing every topic about „death“ a person becomes depressed. Maybe this person repressed / depressed this bad topic for a reason. Maybe that person was/ is too afraid about his/ her own death. And by the way… Who decides what a „good life“ really is? You have a good life , so you cannot be depressed in a psychological matter? You have to have a brain problem? Why is that so? I am a German psychologist and I believe that there are mainly three reasons for depression: 1. repressing aggression (always be a people pleaser) 2. you haven’t dealt with death at all or with someone’s death in the past 3. you have no meaning in live - maybe that’s why there is so much suicid, because live doesn’t make any sense - so death is a „good solution“ And of course all of that could also cause brain problems with less serotonin and co.So my point is that depression is always much more than “only” a brain problem. And of course thank you for this video. I like this content very much

[@mark_tile-man]

Which one is more likely to actually ask or seek help? Group A or B?

[@alex-vs4hh]

I'm depressed because my life is a mess

[@undertalepapyrus2615]

yes

[@AnnemarieMytka]

Yes now, I have not walked for months, from totally walking every day, to not, now walking at all, my muscles neck are stiff painful 😣 thank you?

[@hannekezijlmans6578]

Common sense. The times I have experienced depression, there always was a very clear cause. It took me decades to understand why I always thought antidepressants (which were offered to me) wouldn't work. I'm happy I never took them. It gave me the opportunity to work on myself and change my life. Other people will have different experiences, which are also valid.

[@The_real_Toddington]

They don't work. Lorazapam does. Good rest and exercise

[@carliebeau5329]

Yup my life is an absolute mess. I welcome an alcoholic into my life. It's getting super messy as he will not leave my house. It's gonna get worst before it gets better. Not sure how strong I am

[@bacjac8072]

Many folks may be like me: outwardly to others my life looks perfect. But, I know I am stuck with an inexorably worsening terminal illness - even worse, it is my own fault I have this illness. And too cowardly to put myself out of this minute by minute hell...😢

[@RobertLeighJames92]

Great clip

[@caseyweatherwax7765]

I fully understand everything that was discussed here, though realize that some abuse was started by a sicologist / or councilor & after will ultimately end up messing up the whole mentality of opening up with how they go about their actions & etc.

[@Infinityisone]

it is wholly meaningless. I started to think about ‘Death’ and ‘After-life’. The whole world’s people are insane. Nobody understands me well.

[@Infinityisone]

this video is also meaningless to watch now. I already know what is depressions. Who made my life a mess? You all. Just whole world made me a zoo monkey and discussed who am I.

[@eugenepat61]

Is it possible that the people who have a good life, without depression, are the ones who arc actually disordered or at least "not-all-there?" The so-called normal people who are socialised in a certain way. What if they are really smart and see through things a little bit more than the average? What if they have a little bit more of a conscience and the well paid job is with a firm that is exploiting their customers for profit or mere survival? What if they "have it all" only to find that something's still missing? Just a thought, that's all taking into consideration a quote attributed to Krishnamurti that "it is not a measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

[@jordanthedoge535]

my life is a mess

[@almaosmeni-olaveson1444]

I know people that on paper they have a great life and they get anti-depressants. However, they had family members growing up that in very subtle ways eroded their relationship with themselves as kids, and then they went and married a cover dark empath and narcissist but if you see them they fit the bill of the great family. So i think we need to look at this so “good relationships with a fine comb” especially when it comes to very hidden ways of abuse especially verbal, energetic, psychological abuse in the home.

[@__Talia__]

Both, I’m a diagnosed bipolar mess sorting through the messes in my so called life

[@urhumbleservant]

2:30 bookmark

[@flamingburritto]

Both

[@Mike_Lennox]

In the video "How to handle a rebellious child" (kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZupdo2Yi9B0gs0si=t9QkT0NsZ31f-KT1) Jordan describes forcing his children to be depressed and unintegrated. In the lecture, Jordan describes leading Julian's communication and emotions into a failure to communicate and an emotional incompletion. An emotional incompletion is a dark disturbing unconscious emotional world in which the mind is trapped in vicious circles of conflations and false dichotomies. A conflation is the unconscious mind attaching two unrelated things together as if they have to go together. For example, Julian learned from Jordan that consciously translating and managing his internal feedback is synonymous with Jordan's disapproval. If Julian were to consciously distinguish the reasons and decisions that Jordan became (as a trapped and traumatized child) Julian would free up his internal feedback to experience himself as separate and distinct from Jordan's survival strategies and pretenses.

[@MrSilver2nd]

The first category may be something covertly associated with a sense of feeling of being undeserving or something akin to imposter syndrome. Also a subconscious or deeply compartmentalized view that all these "good" things are of no real value to the individual and that they may be living someone else's life. This is not to say that they are correct but rather that the world view and the value system that was developed prior to attaining these "good" things (that is not aligned with the current state) has not completely dissolved or reframed itself. I find that there needs to be a conscious attempt made on a regular basis of acknowledging both in private and amongst others (friends, family), that these good things are in fact good. A genuine and sincere or vulnerable conversation with a support group or close friends helps to realign the subtle world view with the reality of one's life. This is a practice that was engrained in the Christian life at one point of humbling one's self. Growing up in the Western world constantly being bombarded with these fantastic notions of what life should be like in every sphere (social, sexual, professional, etc.) did/does not help. Now think this through all the temperaments that Jordan refers to often... Yes maybe most are neurotic or low in disagreeable ness but I think that would probably apply more to the second group. I would hazard a guess and say the first group is probably high in disagreeable ness or somewhere in between. I may be also as bold as to say that these people do not reside statically within these temperaments but fluctuate through them, in no particular order, at a rapid rate. But WTF do I know!?

[@aldreiong7679]

I'm a bit torn on immediate recommendation of using anti-depressants. Just as Mikhaila promotes, lifestyle factors should be considered first, and that includes diet. Seeing her transformation by going on the carnivore diet is amazing, and that just proves how underscored the importance of diet is in everyday life. Every person's biology is different, and people should really be given more support in figuring out whether they need actual medications or if they just need to cut foods out of their diet.

[@jamesbizs]

You’ve clearly never faced depression. You have no idea how hard it is to fix your life, while living with depression, when you don’t even want to wake up in the morning, let alone change your entire life style.

[@jamesbizs]

And her case was literally dying from medical problems. And she was a child, with parents to help. Changing her diet literally saved her life, and saved her from debilitating pain and surgery. Doing this as an adult, for depression, is extremely difficult while depressed

[@aldreiong7679]

@@jamesbizs You must be facing a difficult time in your life, and I empathize with you, but I am speaking from my own experience. I myself have tried using medications as an immediate solution to my own depression before, and while it provided a temporary solution, lifestyle changes and broadening my own life perspectives (some routines, new philosophies, and getting to know my place in the world) are what ultimately allowed me to stand up against harder and harder adversities. If you feel that medications are necessary for your current condition, then by all means, try it as long as it gives you some hope. But I want to encourage you to take small and incremental steps in terms of lifestyle changes such as diet. Like what Dr. JP always promotes, small incremental improvements give massive effects. Cut the dragon down as small as possible until you can handle it, we believe in you.

[@xavierharding8938]

No, I'm doing great thanks. True happiness comes from within. It's easy to say but hard to achieve. But with the right mindset anyone can do it. I've been living this since my late teens and I love life.

[@alyssaganz6658]

What if you're in between those two realms?

[@kal2487]

"Your brain is trying to tell you to get a life." -- Touche. 😅

[@yehuda.b.kaufmankaufman]

Where is the full episode ?

[@iamgodphotography]

I don’t know what’s wrong with me. I just have extreme boredom monotony of each day being the same as the one before and I can’t feel anything that makes me happy at all. I also don’t have any interest in anything. I stay in bed, except for when I walk my dog and I hope I didn’t do any brain damage when I used crack cocaine to escape a few times.

[@JeffCaplan313]

Why can't it be both?

[@Runnifier]

The fact that they are pulling Jordan’s certification is just shameful. He’s clearly good at what he does.

[@theguyonyoutube4826]

Both?

[@CHIEFTATELLI]

The link to what you say is THE FULL VIDEO takes you to another video not this discussion.

[@rudyponzio5871]

🙏🏻I rarely get sick in the sea. In a way. We're in the sea of humanity. The sickness of sameness's sanity? Once you take a bite you've bitten.

[@jamesharris184]

Stay off of social media, for the most part, read books absolutely key.

[@Aykayt278]

I'm depressed because I'm depressed/meta-depression

[@dcktater7847]

I dont have grief shame and guilt i just hate being in this inept monkey suit

[@nwsanagnwsths]

"Get a life, Looser" How silly saying..my friend! You know if I could..., I would... Easy to say...

[@Theoriginalanimalcracker]

I mean if my life is a mess then I’m still getting really good grades and my room is clean so idk what to do 🤷‍♂️

[@danieljoesphlivelife6884]

No one wants to be my friend I mean no one ...I only have my gf and some family members...Iv been pushed so hard but it's getting hard iv definitely done some dumb shit I'm not proud of but who hasn't I'm over it I feel people are jealous and useless and trying to take me down because I'm better then them

[@Maryambest1]

But whoever turns away from My Reminder will certainly have a miserable life,1 then We will raise them up blind on the Day of Judgment.”

[@williammentink]

The comment section on this video are a very curious mix to me.

[@Sam_T2000]

both 🤙

[@Godisreal.]

Neither I've become a misanthrope given there's 1 degree of separation for me. There really aren't any people at my level, and I don't have peers.

[@neonninja5049]

Many factors can influence depression being unable to function as well maybe you have been injured 🤕 but you need to work or you fall in life that could be homelessness an relationships, financially,sleeping I think even being around negative people life is difficult I don’t find it funny a hole lack of care and love your past could change your perspective class systems you could be treated differently to others being less like you. Some are picked on bullying from gangs or people with mental illnesses or people with a lack of empathy.

[@TheGreatRedBeard]

I was trying to pick up my life. I admit a little slowly, but I was working towards becoming a machinist. And then bam, I got really bad eplisy. Now, I have apparently 5 minute long seizures quite often. It is now to the point where it is really affecting my memory and my mood. How am I supposed to have relationships when I have laughing fits for no reason. However, the only reply I will actually receive is something like I hope Jesus heals you, which is dumb to say because eplisy is not a cure able disease

[@DBELLTREE]

What if society is completely garbage?

[@stevenkelby2169]

Personally, I stepped outside of the dominance hierarchy and descended into chaos. Does that answer the question?

[@dardar267]

Forgot one cause of depression and that is post partum, which I understand is somehow linked to bipolar in the newer literature

[@AL-ri6bk]

Interesting stuffs

[@gytispranskunas4984]

Am I depressed ? To answer this try living alone for 15 years with "incurable" auto imune diseases. Bleeding skin, broken joints, isolated from everyone. So... You get your answer.

[@The_real_Toddington]

I think anxiety meds help people slp at night and they wake up in a better optimistic state of mind since anxiety and depression are linked. Anti depressants are not always the answer. All the money in the world dont mean nothing if that lingering anxiety is still current. Just an opinion. It becomes to difficult to measure serotonin levels just from someone demonstrates depression

[@thejsix]

Yes (maybe I haven't seen the whole video yet)

[@LAIDBACKMANNER]

TRD is bad, but it's the GAD & SAD on top of it (pulse no health insurance and no way to get help of ay kind besides talking to a counselor that can't really help me in any real way besides "chit-chatting" about how I feel and suggesting that I listen to "pink noise" and try meditating... Which is not helping me in the slightest. Who-dah thought). I want to get help but, I have no money. Besides, even if I did, I need to take care of my dog and the cats. I can't go somewhere. who would take care of them? Before that it was taking care of my mother with cancer for several years. As soon the cats and my dog naturally pass-away, and there is nothing needing my help or literally depending on me to live, I'm pretty sure I'm going to quit... I'm so tired of feeling this way, so tired of sleeping 12-14 hours a day only to get up and worry, constantly about death and how terrified I am of it but wan it so much... crying for help, but... whatever.

[@chuckliquor3663]

In the words of Grandpa Simpson: A little from collumn A, a little from collumn B.