Assassin - Red Perks - Modern Warfare 3 - #9

[@aaronmontero7759]

You forgot to mention it negates portable radars. that's about 30-50% of why I use assassin, your basically a fish out of water without assassin if you play above average players. Hardline is very powerful but it's a win harder perk. 2nd best red perk in my oppinion

[@YourLocalMcDubs]

The way you described putting the pro effects into other existing perks is probably the best thing I've ever heard. And awesome video overall. You've earned a like, my good sir :)

[@RagingAmish]

@xXShotgunKevXx New mic. The sound quality is actually higher. Instead of an echo, you're hearing a bit more of the bass in my voice.

[@Motorstormfanboy]

it would be really easy to fix, all they had to do was not allow to use a silencer with assassin on the class.

[@MrItalianmustard]

The other day I went into ground war (full teams) called in a UAV. I was excited for those two blips. WHOOPIE!

[@TheDieHard777]

I agree. I love hearing people rage when I take out their Reapers as soon as they get in the air.

[@UnawareBlaire]

I like going stealth mode in MW2 so it lets me control the situation. This is crucial in SnD. However in that game, Cold-Blooded had the ability to be immune to all these things I'm pretty sure, the reason it isn't a problem anymore is because of its competitor perk: Stopping Power. Now that Stopping Power has been removed, developers must make better choices in diversifying and balancing their red perks, heck, all the perks in general.

[@TheRightStuff789]

Wow. I've never heard of such a genius idea to balance the perk. Just throw in all the extra stuff with other perks. Blind Eye - immune to thermal DS Pro - Immune to HBS Sitrep Pro - Immune to Portable Radar Recon - Immune to CUAV and Advanced UAV

[@BornofIron]

I love your random funny clips!

[@DethklokFanVideo]

Amish, love your reviews. I just wish we could get them more often but then that would mean sacrificing content which i for one do not want.

[@Yasukeh]

@Dranious i meant not even as close to as many as there was in blops and even when people use it its most likely for rushing and ive never really seen anyone corner camping with it.statisticaly its op but it really doesnt have as much effect on the gameplay that ghost did

[@SupaDuperJosh]

I use both blind eye and assassin because of my playing style which I like to rush and run around and man it helps A LOT. Keeps me alive to a certain extent.

[@ehkoin]

Apperently, Ghost only hides you from the UAV and it only does that if you're moving. I don't know how they'll work out the kinks, but they'll find a way.

[@DAZTEC4273]

Wow, you have some really good ideas for balancing this perk!!! Someone let infinity ward know!!!!!

[@meeksandgeeks]

"a pointstreak will never suffice as a counter to a perk" I agree completely. That's what I said whenever someone said "herpderp Ghost isn't a problem. lrn2blackbird"

[@iefalco]

how the perk set up should go as in mw3, in my personal opinion. *no particular order* blue perks: scavenger, recon, quick draw, blast shield, and blind eye red perks : stopping power, juggernaut, assassin, over kill, and sonic boom *it returns* green/yellow perks: sit rep, dead silence, stalker, steady aim, and marathon. this set up seems like it would be very balanced, not sure bout the sonic boom one but i couldn't think of another proper red perk to place.

[@DeathMachineDAS]

"That concludes this review of my nightmare." LMAO.

[@Wesley_Nexgen]

Amen Amish, Amen... This video deserves an Emmy.

[@NailStrafer]

Cold Blooded wasn't considered overpowered in MW2 because it had to compete with Stopping Power. So if you wanted to be stealthy, it was a big sacrifice in offensive power. When Stopping Power vanished in BO, the stealth perk no longer had any serious drawbacks to using it. It counters UAVs, the most common killstreak in each game. Some red abilities ARE very useful (especially Blast Shield), but none are so thoroughly useful as Assassin. That really needs to change.

[@MastaKeefe]

THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE GOLDEN RULE!

[@Jetxel]

i have always been a player that enjoys stealth, but i really agree the assassin is just to strong, there not only problems with the perk with also with pointstreaks, we needed a perk that counters emp or counter uav or uav because these are suport streak,far more easy to get. it isnt need banning these abilities.what is needed is carefully planing of the perks, like there are players that like their game focusing on choking points, pressing on, suporting, and behind enemy lines.

[@robberonbrent]

I love when he says that all black op guns are the same, because they are. Funny video

[@Gogetankz]

@ubermikey15 When I look at Modern Warfare 2, I notice they took things from former perk "Ninja" and gave it to new perk Assassin, leaving Dead Silence with only the ability to silence footsteps and reloads. They seriously turned cold-blooded into a seriously all powerful Assassin perk. And he's right when he says that certain abilities in assassin belong to other perks. If we know, then the devs should know better. Thats the frustrating part.

[@ConsistentDiZzy]

that's a good idea to split the abilities as you described in assassin, and the ten classes availablity will be used

[@SkyWalker007z]

god damn get this guy a job at infinity ward/sledge hammer! ur a balancing genius!

[@Coolbill34]

I agree with having to earn it. On the one Specialist class I have, it's my 5 kill perk (I use Hardline Pro) and I don't always get to use it. But when I do earn it, it doesn't really affect my playing... Perhaps I should create a total stealth class and try it out, rather than having just used it til I unlocked Pro

[@BibleMan251]

@kingaj0321 The point isn't to counter stopping power, the point is to counter stealth because it's a huge advantage to be undetectable. And like I said until you can shoot around corners where an enemy might be hiding then recon pro isn't a complete counter. If a guy is in your spawn with a silencer, dead silence, and assassin, he can do some major damage to your team and there is no disadvantage to him. Stopping power makes the stealthy enemy not as strong thus it did not get over used.

[@mrbinks10]

Call of Duty: Hiding in a corner FAMAS+ghost, I mean Black Ops Call of Duty: Assassins Creed with guns, I mean MW3 I agree completely with you amish!

[@the1niddo]

Personally, the only thing I would have taken off of Assassin during development and given to another perk is Thermal Immunity to Blind Eye. After that, I would have taken off CUAV and EMP immunity, made it its own base perk (Clear Sight or something like that). Have the Pro version allow you to see the flight path of enemy KSs on the HUD, and throw it into the Green/Yellow Group. Marksmen should also counter the no Red Name thing, maybe cancel each other out and leave it at normal range?

[@obesedog23]

LOL love the Fairly Oddparents reference!!

[@ehkoin]

You can get more tac grenades from a resupply. But this means you'll have to use the assault package, cutting off access to the recon drone and the support package.

[@SLAYAXBOT]

I highly agree with you amish about the perk remake

[@Xrabe1]

Hey Amish, I totally share your opinion about how all of assassain's abilities should be split into other perks, it would be much better for the game. And I think you also were right when you said that the other red perks doesn't have anything to compare with. But: I think assassain pro counter the EMP because it is much easier to earn (or at least, it makes more sense to have it on) What do you think about it?

[@PortCottonWood]

Supposedly Assassin is a confirmed perk, but it didn't have a description for it. Hopefully it's just like Cold Blooded in MW2, and doesn't block EMP or Counter bullshit.

[@MarDaWarGod]

@jcheng28 the famas was never a noob gun, its just that everything else lacked variety in BO, when all the guns kill in the same amount of bullets, you would pick the faster fire rates= famas and aug reigned supreme, famas being unlocked early saw it more use however, but no1 complained about the aug when it was a near clone of the famas

[@Allistar123]

@realogre32 and camping is a dominate factor of war does that mean we should play like that?

[@arhidumistul]

I am glad.If all would use it like you the game would be a lot better

[@Boyo_the_Bear]

I believe a buff to blastshield would greatly help the balance. its just so weak that i don't see it saving me from any explosives like it should, I even get the "survive explosions" challenge when I DIE from them

[@destroctiveblade843]

here is the best way to balance assasin I know it's too late but I would still like to give my opinion on how they should have done it : first make it so that assasin doesn't protect from advanced UAV on the condition that it becaumes an 18 point streak , it should also protect you from HBS because the perk would still be popular and I don't want anyone to use that attachement , make dead silence protect you from thermal scopes and recon protect you from counter UAV and EMP and make so that the pro virsion takes out your red name

[@ramza89SH]

@jamiller83 Which is precisely what 90% of people who use it do. If they want to keep a UAV Jammer-type perk in the game, they NEED to have something that is equally useful. When Stopping Power was taken out of the game, suddenly, there was nothing that was remotely as useful as not being seen on radar, and MW3 added immunity to Counter UAV and EMP's as well.

[@Struggler9996]

I think in a game where absolutely anyone, regardless of skill level, can get UAVs, CUAVs, AUAVs, and EMPs, Assassin is a necessary evil of sorts. The time when a UAV isn't up in the air is short, if at all existent. There's an AUAV up every couple minutes, and CUAVs every now and then. EMPs are very popular now, too. I do think assassin could stand to get a bit of a nerf, though. It shouldn't protect people from AUAVs (which should be more like BO's blackbird, but visible), CUAVs, or EMPs.

[@ezioaltairac]

5:28 to 5:30 is the funniest response I've heard from you

[@123sniperzz]

@Blasted9001 No, it speeds up the pace because aggressive players know where to go to get the kills.

[@wwe884]

Ty for all these perk and gun reviews i made a few cool class

[@Herp123Derp456]

That was what I was thinking. And Assassin also counters portable radar and Ghost didn't counter Motion Sensor. That's why I think Assassin is OP. I disagree with most people that say Ghost is OP. I don't think it is because: -Black Bird can see it -Motion Sensor can see it

[@thejohnjovenmusic]

i think they should put back Stopping Power and put assassin or any other future steath perk on the same tier. Stopping Power was the reason why ppl didnt use or didnt complain about cold blooded back in MW2 or UAV jammer in COD4

[@RagingAmish]

@deprece2301 I'm not sure which is worse. Me forgetting portable radar or the perk having so many abilities that it's easy to forget one.

[@toadftw23]

As much as i hate to say it, the counter to stealth is aggression, power and defense In Call of Duty 4, people had to decide between UAV Jammer, Stopping Power and Juggernaut; and as much as it pains me to admit, this is the only way to even out stealth.

[@dmxhtp]

@xxRagingAmishxx would you have an issue with danger close in mw3?

[@WhiteSharkUK]

@ManOfDeath567 Lol exactly. HB sensor, Thermal Scope and Portable Radar are completely redundant in this because of the masses of Assassin users.

[@arhidumistul]

is stopping power really back? AWSOME !

[@anteater219]

lol the little random mini clips make me lul

[@stickmandudeman]

Split ghost into two perks? BRILLIANT!!!!

[@LeQuack147]

Ahh, it's you again... I have a similar class, but it's more for "**** it, my team's useless, I'm flying solo."

[@Gutierrez2895]

my loadout is mp7 silenced ext. mags sleight of hand , hardline , stalker specialist is: assassin , blind eye , scavenger it works:)

[@Caesarsinclairjr17]

hey amish, is it possible that the devs can patch a perk. not patch per se but like get rid of some abilities the perk can do

[@WhoPutsThisStuffHere]

@HoboHutGuy Your right, people know they aren't going to fix most of those things. Heck Black Ops was the first COD to have their weapons adjusted bit. (Exception: WaW on PC) However if you aren't vocal about the glaring problems with balance such as Assassin being and feeling just too good, then it will most likely reappear in future CODs. Of course, I don't mean raging and whining like most do as that falls on deaf ears.

[@Toxicboy24598]

Hey Amish way back when you did that video of Top 5 reasons why you love CoD, you said you would do a video on why CoD annoys you, when or if it is gonna be made?

[@parraboi1]

@xxRagingAmishxx The thing you fail to recognize is that nobody cares about the things added to the UAV protection in Assassin, Nobody picks assassin to be immune to HBS or thermal, They pick to be immune to UAV. UAV is overpowered in this game, There are way to many every game and you can actually get unlimited UAV's on MW3 by simply using UAV and counter UAV as your only point streaks (use with hardline and every time you get a UAV you will already have one).

[@Designation6]

@Allistar123 How about marksman only works if using a sniper rifle?

[@dueler1022]

I believe this is what should happen. First, Assassin should counter the UAV and thermal scope. Second, Assassin Pro should not show the red name when aimed at. Finally, Dead Silence should counter the heartbeat censor. Dark Helmet: "Everybody got that?"

[@crazyhand97]

@TheeArt0fWar what mode was that? I never played WaW

[@zaktiggy]

My "balanced" version: Assassin: Undetectable by air support (UAV, AC130, Pave low, Strafe run etc.) Pro: Undetectable by Advanced UAV & thermal scope + no red name/crosshairs when targeted Blind eye: Immune to CUAV, EMP, bouncing betty, IMS & portable radar. Pro: Stay off HB sensors, immune to sentries & recon + faster lock on air support.

[@mawoodtt]

Well said! Great review

[@Veers96]

Well it's a good thing I use it on my rushing classes. I agree with the advanced UAVs countering assassin. Like showing just their location but not direction. The three UAV equal advanced should also counter assassin.

[@MrWolframagnum]

recon perk can reveal you where you are once you get painted and you can also tag by a recon drone even if you have assassin pro

[@Allistar123]

@parraboi1 That is why it should only counter UAV and AUAV. that is a strong enough perk for the second tier. but uav is not really overpowered. it has a lot of counters. Stingers, Counter UAVs, EMPs, even UAVs themselves are counters since nobody has the advantage.

[@realogre32]

@Allistar123 steath is the dominate factor in war so why shouldn't it be the dominate play style in a game about war?

[@MxChloeB42]

I only like the Assassin for the Pro variations, I seriously couldn't care about getting off the radar or thermals. It's great for Sniping and Shotguns, plus the objective game modes

[@thecookiemeister5374]

I (almost) completely agree with u. Assasin does need balancing. But because the advanced UAV is a fairly hard kill streak to earn, assasin doesnt need to counter it. Or have u heard about the triple uav rule??? Mabe that could do it. For those of u who dont know,,

[@ThatGuyWhoSubscribes]

There's more you would've thought that they learned from blops *Cough-second chance-Cough*

[@oddf3ll0w]

Have I played to much Swtor or do the assassin perk look like a sith with two lightsabers?

[@NitromeSupporter]

the last time the devs patched a perk was hardline in blops. they didn't balence it, they made the pro almost useless

[@Fan101ish]

Could you do ocasional BF3 reviews if you find yourself with the spare time?

[@Deadlyaztec27]

I think that we could counter camping, and the stealth perks in one simple move... Remove all radar based killstreaks and show every body on the map. Boom balanced game

[@SuperSurajM]

dead silence should have been the counter to heartbeat sensors, like ninja was in mw2

[@MrMegaNightmare]

And sonic boom, double tap, and flak jacket. Make the Noobtube Take up double the points as a perk would and it would work pretty well.

[@brettski34]

As an assassin user, I would happily trade the secondary abilities to get my guile suit back

[@LittlePinkBowser]

Actually, I blame the quick turnover rate of the call of duty series as a whole. This can also be an explanation for the lack of gun variety.

[@Herp123Derp456]

Lots of people use Assassin. And another thing I think sucks is that 75% I see use stealth classes and silencers.

[@awentford]

I think if grenades were replenished by scavenger and blast shield was stronger then this will be used more and assassin used less. Give more options in the red tier

[@Alkokemisti]

Raging amish, i want you to join CoD development-team. Next CoD would be the best of all time!

[@Veers96]

I have a question. Is assassin looked down upon when people rush with the perk?

[@xXHanxseXx]

If your not moving (camping) then you should be visible to the UAV, balancing it because it's a great rushing perk.

[@Allistar123]

@realogre32 that is why i said people who are sorta campy not campers. once they have the confidence of knowing where the enemy position is they attack sort of how it in hardcore TDM. Everybody moves cautiously until they hear uav online and they begin to rush. but your comment has nothing to do with what i said. i am talking in the standpoint of the team you are in calling a uav and you are talking about how a team reacts when a uav is called on them.

[@thejohnjovenmusic]

but thats the whole point of stopping power! It will make people choose whether to go stealthy or go for bullet power. Putting UAV on a higher killstreak will make the game pace slower and people will still use assassin for the ability to be hidden from Heartbeat Sensor, Thermal, and Motion Sensor

[@BibleMan251]

@kingaj0321 Look at it this way. Assassin always works 100% of the time. Quickdraw still depends on reflexes and connection, you still die from explosions with blast shield, you may or may not get assists or kills with hardline depending on skill, 2 primaries is a good idea, but why not just pick up an enemies weapon and now you have two primaries. Stopping power or Jugg worked 100% of the time as well. And assassin pro has like 4 extra abilities!

[@pinoypois30n]

Well, Assassin slows everything down for me. COD is supposed to be fast-paced. I made an Anti-Assassin class. Got me 3 hate messages from a few games for basically neutralizing the perk's ability :3 PM-9 (Any secondary) C4 Flash Recon (Pro it up) Quickdraw Pro (Any Yellow Perk) Support S.P.: have a Recon Drone. What needs to be done, needs to be done. Spam the hell out of your Flashes. I spray with the PM-9; so even if I die, my teammates can clean up the mess.

[@Wgraham3809gmail]

WOW! I never knew the devs could kill the heartbeat sensor, thermal sight AND the advanced UAV with a single perk! o wait i played every COD since the original modern warfare.... nevermind

[@That0nePerson]

To respectfully disagree, assassin is fine the way it is. Looking at the features, yeah I will agree that it is a pretty stacked 2nd perk. It however, isn't nearly as bad as ghost. In this game, assassin is almost necessary with people using support. Support is a welfare streak that awards bad players with extremely powerful pointstreaks. This stops most people from wanting to actually move and play aggressively if all of a sudden they get emp'd from someone who is 5-18.

[@dreamslayer2082]

Assassin is far less of a problem in MW3. I usually only see 1 or 2 people using it on the enemy team. In Blops, sometimes I'd have NO red dots or just one or two. I feel like the second tier is stacked. Blast Shield is amazing for Drop Zone/Demo/Dom/Defender. Quickdraw is awesome for ARs/SMGs when someone gets the jump on you. Hardline is a must have for Specialist. Overkill...meh. I strongly believe there is NO OP perk in this game. Though I will admit, Assassin may do a bit too much.

[@Sundorwave]

I use it because how common emps are and I like having the radar when the enemy least expects it. Also I could care less about not being scene on the enemies' radars, as long as I see them on mine. + I only use it with recon pro and hacker or stalker so I can take out or at least mark campers also using assasin without being detected.

[@Kevin-rr6rm]

Is that the CoD 3 main theme in the background i hear?

[@Cryonic442]

One thing they could do is maybe bring back scrambler and make UAV immunity the pro effect or something like that. Off the top of my head.

[@BibleMan251]

@kingaj0321 You only get 2 special grenades and one grenade and you cant shoot around corners. thus recon pro is very limited. If you put stopping power in the same tier as ghost in black ops then yes it would balance it. Cold Blooded in MW2 was the same as Ghost, but everyone used stopping power and only switched to cold blooded to take out air support.

[@Yankee9771]

they have ghost, only if you stayed so long in an area you will be detected by the uav if you dont move

[@SkiDaBird]

the beep still happens, so you know their near, but not exactly where they are

[@robberonbrent]

It seriously is op. I find it unfair that every game the top player was using assassin. I think it would be balanced if every third sweep of any of those things should reveal the user. It would still maintain stealth, but balance it a little more so the user can't run around the map without being seen.

[@MonsterHunter971]

they should have put this perk in the blue tear because assassin compared to scavenger, blind eye, recon, and SoH would make it more balanced because choose immunity to assault killstreaks or support, faster reloads and ads would be hard to give up and giving up more ammo is also a loss

[@carljuvy]

Assassin is for stealthy players. QuickDraw is my 2nd fav red perk.