ATS Miracle Gas Treatment - Real World TEST

ATS Chemical 505CRF Fuel System Treatment Test. Will this treatment result in improved gas mileage for a high mileage, 11-year-old vehicle that is running well? Surprise Results.
This is an OFF-LABEL use of the product. ATS does not advertise or make claims that this will help a well running vehicle ... Should they start?

[@barrettabney]

I always test on a full tank to an empty tank. Put the additive into a 1/4 tank of gas and run it through. Then fill it up and run the test on another full tank to empty. Gives a much better view of accuracy and your fuel pump shutoff accuracy has less of an impact.

[@mts7274]

This dude would spend 3 hours making a breakfast, and then four hours eating it.

[@dauseanadoingme3824]

Foreal, I thought I was the only one thinking the same thing

[@joebly5641]

🤣 I felt a hair turn gray watching it

[@garykeenan3724]

And 7 hours defficating it lol😂

[@mts7274]

@@joebly5641 Same here except mine was a pubic hair, which typically only happens to the elderly, lol.

[@chosensmusic]

😂

[@Bangkok-ik1fp]

Maintaining correct tire air pressure, clean air filter and clean oil will go a long way to better gas mileage.

[@goinpostal51]

Love the AMX in the background.

[@IsItTrueThat]

Thanks, you've got some muscle car knowledge, I see.

[@goinpostal51]

@@IsItTrueThat Yes sir. My first car was a 69 Javelin. A few years later I bought a 1970 AMX 390. Loved that car.

[@josephmccausland7175]

I had a 2012 kia rio that i bought brand new. When it was new I would get 30-35 mpg without trying. So over time my mpg gradually dropped over the 10 years that I've owned it and around 100k miles I was getting 27-28 mpg. Never ran fuel cleaner through it. I ran 1 bottle, $27, of BG 44K Platinum through it. The next tank on the same exact commute, I got 37 mpg. So when I watched this video and heard 'my car runs with no issues' I was not surprised at the results. My car was way down on mpg so I probably had clogged fuel injectors. If you don't have clogged fuel injectors, nothing is going to change. I now run a bottle once a year for maintenance.

[@kingposeidon9362]

I think you need to run through the full tank of gas to which you added the ATS treatment to get the full effect and you might need more than one treatment. I used the Royal Purple max-clean product and it took 3 successive treatments (i.e., w/3 full tanks) before I suddenly got a significant improvement in mileage (2003 Honda Odyssey) (went from ~18-20 mpg to ~24 mpg). When the vehicle was brand new, the stated mileage was 25 mpg highway, so I was clearly dealing with some issues that had reduced the mileage so much to that point. But the Royal Purple did the job to bring the mileage back up, although it took multiple treatments. But then Royal Purple is a third to half the price of ATS.

[@victorrivera4808]

Not if you have to buy 3 treatments!

[@kingposeidon9362]

@@victorrivera4808 ATS didn't work with one treatment. Even if he only needed a second ATS treatment, that still would have been more expensive than the 3 RP treatments I used.

[@scottdean27]

Thanks for doing this test and doing it all as well as any normal viewer should expect. I enjoyed the video. I’m wondering if you could do the test again and see if another try would result in just about the same results again or not. Have you tried a second bottle of ATS since this video?

[@IsItTrueThat]

Thanks! I haven't tried another bottle. I'd like to attempt another drive on the course to see if my gas mileage has recovered. It feels like it has, if in fact, it truly ever was lowered. I can't bring myself to spend the money and time for another drive for that little lingering question though. Glad you appreciated the experiment.

[@ronb9901]

Humidity, temperature, headwind, tailwind, idle time, tire pressure. All variables that could account for such a small difference. That being said, if your truck is/was running perfectly before the treatment, after the treatment it’s likely to do little.

[@IsItTrueThat]

Agree with everything you said. I picked a day that duplicated the previous run pretty closely. I did not record humidity though and there wasn't supposed to be any idle time, although in watching the video there was right at the end of the second run. Your last sentence is likely the whole issue. The truck off the show room floor likely was giving this same gas mileage. No additive is going to improve beyond that as someone else stated. Appreciate your comments.

[@ronb9901]

@@IsItTrueThat on the other hand you can consider it a cheap insurance policy for a clean fuel system. I have seen Scotty Kilmer recommend this stuff….

[@dbfcrell8300]

I only have this to say.... Berryman's B-12 Chemtool seems to be the best bang for the buck in fuel system cleaners at $4-$5 a can. It shows the best results in multiple testing from multiple testers in multiple vehicles over long periods of time. Unlike most gas additives, B-12 burns when ignited with a flame. Most gas additives don't burn when ignited, so at the absolute very least, if Berryman's doesn't clean your engine well, it is at least working to run your engine. Also, gasoline itself is an excellent cleaner, so using a cleaner to give you better gas mileage (regardless what the bottle says) is not what it is for. It is to help clean carbon build up which MAY also improve mpg. It's for helping to clean the piston tops, upper cylinder, intake valves (possibly exhaust valves to a much lesser degree), injectors and maybe even the fuel pump where the gasoline's formulated additive package alone isn't capable of being any more effective. In fact, using cheap gas with Berryman's makes a lot of sense b/c Berryman's is a better cleaner than most name brand gasoline's additive package. If you can get Berryman's at a low enough price, you'll probably be ahead or break even money-wise over using Shell with Nitrogen (which is questionable if Shell 87 oct even has the same nitrogen package that their 91 oct has- they tell you nothing!). At least you know Berryman's is in your tank cause you put it there! This is just my opinion and I know and respect other opinions, except sponsored ones.

[@try4gain-xb7yv]

Thanks for the testing & upload. This stuff is a lot of work.

[@willobrien353]

Is it possible that your car's fuel injectors were already clean and did not need the CRF 505 treatment? That plus that there is no way that you can accurately gauge the gallons used with any real precision, so it looks to me like there was virtually no change in the MPG which brings me back to my original question. If the car did not need cleaning then I would not expect a change in MPG.

[@IsItTrueThat]

I agree with your main point, the truck's injectors were working fine and cleaning a perfectly fine working fuel system, is not going to improve gas mileage. I am not so certain that one cannot accurately measure gas used. The bigger issue I believe is that the miles traveled were so small that even a tiny difference in fuel measured translates to a large MPG change. As a side note, the truck gets the same gas mileage it always did. There was no long lasting "drop" in mileage. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@DAVID-gf1es]

You can't expect the fuel nozzle to click off at the same fill level every time. I bet you can get a couple quarts differrance just with nozzle clicks. A real test would be on a dyno with a certain measured amount of fuel. Or maybe a scan tool can tell you actual consumption based off fuel pump flow idk if that's possible or not. Scott Kilmer figures that if your fuel trim was high before you used the cleaner and then that trim decreases on average after using the cleaner then your saving fuel at any driving condition. It makes sense but still requires more samples to prove.

[@CentralCanada]

When I top up finally, I tend to clik it further slowly by hand to top up carefully a couple more times, to a point' where gas shows itself beyond the flipper closure . Relatively close scenarios, for mpg calc' comparisons.

[@tc96z1]

The biggest flaw I see 😢 issetting the expectati(ons that the initial voyage (with treatment) would qualify as peak output. You might get a whole different set of possibilities after running the treatment through several tanks and only then fill on empty with straight gas and run the test apples to apples. The treatment presumably is doing its job to ‘clean’ the engine components. The product is supposedly a cleaning treatment agent not an octane or fuel booster.

[@IsItTrueThat]

Sorry, it may not have been clear because i chopped the video to make it shorter. I took gas mileage initially then drove until I got down to just over a quarter tank then added the fuel treatment. I drove that until I was nearly on fumes then refilled. The next day I topped off the tank to start the second test. There may have been some remnants of the cleaner still in the system but by that point they should have been highly diluted. You are right that measuring mileage during the cleaning process would not have been a fair comparison.

[@biggrizz4447]

Did you also figure in the speed that you were driving for each test. Because the speed you were driving makes a major difference in the miles per gallon of usage which you didn't show us on your test

[@IsItTrueThat]

Good question. I agree that is very important. Yes, I intentionally went the posted speed limit throughout instead of just traveling with traffic. While not exact, it was pretty darn close to the same speed traveled both times.

[@LennyDream]

Great video! What camera are you using?

[@IsItTrueThat]

Thank you. iPhone 12 mini on a tripod.

[@joseantoniocastrellonjr2568]

You didn't record the ambient temperature. That can make a difference. I've been a drag race and noticed the cats get faster as the ambient temperature drops. I've also had to clean my spark plugs after doing a fuel injector & throttle body cleaning service. The stuff that comes off the valves ends up on the spark plugs. So either clean them and reuse them or change them.

[@IsItTrueThat]

Interesting comment about the residue getting on plugs. I'd have to test it to believe it but if true, it could be a factor. My recollection was that the first drive was 15 degrees hotter than the second drive but I may be wrong. All in all, I think the test was reasonably fair and proved that in my case, on a car with no drivability issues, using the cleaner did not improve gas mileage.

[@stevegarcia1796]

Thank you sir very informative 🇺🇲 👀👍

[@IsItTrueThat]

You are welcome. Thanks for watching and glad there was something informative in there.

[@jessjoshwyatt3571]

Well i just ordered some because my car smokes lightly out the exhaust and doesn't always respond the same so I'm assuming injectors.

[@FLSTN1]

How it work for you

[@philipdru9290]

Yeah, 3 months after purchase, still no product. I asked for a refund today. Lucas Oil has never failed me.

[@TXTundra-ex8bw]

thank you for doing this 505 crf is freaking expensive is it worth it compared to cheaper brands? you earned a sub

[@IsItTrueThat]

In my three tests of ATS products none of the tests made a positive detectable difference for me BUT my tests were for specific situations. The oil treatment which is supposed to clean carbon deposits really seemed to deliver a good cleaning. My longer video on the subject shows how dirty the clean oil became after 15 minutes of cleaning. My method of testing the fuel treatment did not let me see the physical results. I do not know how well other brands work so can't give an opinion. Also, other commenters on this page say it is difficult to actually get delivery of the ATS product (at least six months ago it seemed to be). So, to answer your question, I don't know but if I had an issue that I really wanted to address by using a good fuel system cleaner, I'd go with the ATS.

[@Mr257weatherby]

What is the elevation going to and back? i could see where that would make a difference. or did you do the test in one direction, returned and did it again? Air temp, humidity all make differences on mileage. I'm skeptical of most "Fuel Treatments anyway. If I use one it is Red Line S1.

[@IsItTrueThat]

The route was from East to West and then the reverse to complete the round trip. 45 miles one way and 45 miles back making the trip approx 90 miles. The elevation increase is 450 feet from East to West. Both test trips were as identical as I could reasonably achieve. Weather conditions and time of day were also close. I share your skepticism of additives.

[@garykeenan3724]

Like that amx coulda bought red 390 four speed for 650 back in 1979 a nice one too

[@IsItTrueThat]

Thanks, good eye and car identification. You might have been able to buy some Microsoft stock for $650 back then too. If only we could Time Travel, we'd be rich. :)

[@davidwelday3276]

I can tell you the engine cleaner works really good, you can hear a difference. By the way, speak up please.

[@IsItTrueThat]

Sorry, some of that audio was terrible and I know what I was saying.

[@aljanecko]

Describe the trips, was there more stop and go involved?

[@IsItTrueThat]

The gas station was moments from the freeway and I just drove about 45 miles west at freeway speeds to another city, got off, swung under the freeway and retraced my path. This was about as pure freeway driving as could be. Fortunately no traffic congestions either time.

[@aljanecko]

They say that that has to work it’s way through a full tank of gas, have you tried it since and recorded your milage?

[@CentralCanada]

ATS application instructions; into 5-20gallons, then out for a run . I took my '96 Sierra for a run (w/ 505CRF) to almost empty then topped up fuel tank as usual (for mpg calc.) will go for same run again asap. $$$ expenditure on (treatment/test runs) gas @ $1.40/ltr. ($6.36/cdn gal.) up here. LoL

[@bobsaab1992]

Wait… don’t you have your trips backwards? Your vehicle had less miles on it for second trip than the first. I think the additive did work. Totally something I would do too lol

[@IsItTrueThat]

The second trip did have fewer miles. Maybe that is the magic, it shortens the trips! I missed that feature.

[@bobsaab1992]

@@IsItTrueThat I could be totally wrong, but the table looks like your odometer readouts are higher under the first trip category than they are in the second trip category.

[@IsItTrueThat]

The first trip was in the 150 thousands and the Second trip was in the 151 thousands. Check one more time.

[@bangbang9ergang524]

You should've weighed yourself both trips.. if you ate moms shepherds pie the second trip..you could've weighed 3lbs more making the truck load heavier.. thus poor gas mileage 😅🤣...hopefully it cleaned out your injectors..thanks for this info

[@brucealsaker5504]

You can pre-order this stuff but never get it. Email sent to sales never gets answered either. Maybe this company has gone defunct?

[@IsItTrueThat]

The company replied to another comment in here that they were having problems with the supply chain to get ingredients they needed. That's not really an adequate excuse for not responding to an email inquiry though.

[@weatherwatcher39]

This stuff is out of stock with no availability date.

[@Ryan-cq5zq]

should have done the mileage test with untreated gas after using up all the treated gas. Its not going to instantly clean the fuel system and im sure the cleaners got less energy per gallon than gas

[@IsItTrueThat]

That was the procedure used. No cleaner in the system when the "after" test was run.

[@Jaydizzle870]

Next time try Berryman B-12 Chemtool!

[@marknoviskie2178]

The slower you drive the higher the MPG

[@IsItTrueThat]

Agreed which makes this more puzzling. I averaged 68.4 mph in second trip compared to 68.7 in first trip. So I went a bit slower in the second trip after the treatment and still got poorer gas mileage.

[@marknoviskie2178]

@@IsItTrueThat 👍

[@GrievenceCapitolist]

The pump will give you a bad reading . 1/4 to 1/2 a gallon will throw off your mileage .

[@IsItTrueThat]

That's not a bad thought. Just a 1/4 of a gallon in this case makes 1 mpg difference. Since pumps are checked by the state and I used the same pump, I don't think it occurred here. Still, you are right about the difficulty in measuring fuel and that when only driving 90 miles, a very small difference can have large consequences.

[@NWCYCLE]

not to add in the extra cost of the potion :)

[@sdcoinshooter]

Tell me Jeff, what is the secret to get them to actually ship you the order? I made mine months ago, no product, no response to emails or calls. I paid $60 for nothing. This company steals your money.

[@Schnellanie]

You might've ordered from the wrong company. Try to look up and contact ATS as they seem to be aware that there's a scam with a similarly named company going on, good luck! 🙂

[@mb1636]

The cost of additive is the added mpg. ☹️

[@mikeprice8307]

SHO RITE!! 👏

[@cornfusedatbest3980]

Don't fix it ifn it ain't broke. 🤕😎

[@beachbum6741]

for the price ill pass

[@kennynickell9883]

One reason you only have 64 subs is because no one can hear you..

[@IsItTrueThat]

Kenny, I am shocked to HAVE 64 subs, not disappointed. You're so right on the sound level on this one. That's on me, I had a mic and didn't use it.

[@ronsilva516]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jm2815]

So Scotty Kilmer is FOS. I already knew that but there's a sucker born every second.

[@jimdunn4053]

watched this same product used on an engine that was running bad and it worked great. Milage wasn't even mentioned, maybe its better at cleaning out your injectors than milage. If your milage check was only I mile per gallon I don't think you can blame this product. Especially if the engine was running good, to many other factors involved.