5 REASONS WHY ENGINEER MISSES HIS LEXUS IS 500 - REGRETS SELLING?

Automotive Engineer David Chao used to own the Lexus IS 500 - a sports sedan that's hiding a glorious 5.0L V-8 engine in its bay. But as his needs changed, he traded it for the Lexus GX 460 which also has a wonderful V-8 engine. Still, David misses driving the IS 500 and talks about his experience in this video.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, engineering, and strategy. With over 35 years of engineering experience, David is able to review vehicles from unique perspectives utilizing technical and specialized methods. David is a board member and a director at AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada).
David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean/Agile Thinking, and travels all around the world to review vehicles and teach latest engineering methods. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston.

[@tarkovtxusa6626]

25,000 miles now on my 2022 IS500. Still love the car immensely.

[@HybridMoosa]

How is it in the snow. Have you ever driven it in bad conditions?

[@tarkovtxusa6626]

@@HybridMoosa I'm in the Dallas area and haven't had snow. We had one ice storm and driving was impossible, even with "Snow" mode. Hopefully we'll get a little snow this winter and I'll report back.

[@HybridMoosa]

@@tarkovtxusa6626 got you. Yea I was thinking about getting one but I’m in jersey and it’s mostly cold here so not sure if getting rwd would be the best idea. So I’m steering towards the is 350 with awd. But the v8 is beautiful. Wish I lived somewhere hot 😂

[@tarkovtxusa6626]

@@HybridMoosa I'm originally from NJ, near Toms River and then lived in NYC for 5 years before relocating to Texas in 1998. The IS500 would be fine for NJ weather, just keep good tires like a Michelin Pilot All Season on it. I had a 350 F-Sport as a bridge car while waiting for the 500. The AWD has the 6-and saps performance a bit but then again, the 8 speed is often searching for the right gear. I like the platform and I'm older so I'm not a bench racer, but the main appeal of the IS is that it's a car that's "fast enough" and will be a more durable alternative to the Euro and US alternatives and probably the Acura or Infiniti too. AWD is definitely nice in the northeast and if you don't mind the different drive dynamics of the 6 speed it's a good option. But I'd probably buy the 500 and just deal with a few "snow days" and stay home.

[@allenevangelista1275]

Hi how much your full tank in your is500? Since you’re in texas

[@blu_is500]

Mine will not be a collectible, because I drive the living hell out of mine! 😂 I have a 2022 IS500 in March 2022 and I’m just shy of 23k miles. This. Car. Is. Awesome!! Thanks for posting.

[@timw2083]

Yes sirrrr.... I bought mine to drive. T. That whole "collector" thing would fall in my son's lap. 😂😂😂 I guess my IS300 wagon is more of a collectible car but I drive the mess out of it too.

[@blu_is500]

@@timw2083 LOL! Right! The SPM (Smiles Per Miles) is no joke.

[@ARentz07]

I will never understand the trolls who go from video to video hating on this car. If they can't understand why someone would want a V-8, RWD, compact sport sedan from a reliable platform, I'm not sure what to tell them. 🤔

[@JustAnotherRandomNPC]

Loving my new IS500, but if it came in a manual it would be absolutely PERFECT. I would have bought 2 of them the same day. I prefer the "outdated" interior. Functionally perfect, quality materials and has a classic feel that mature car enthusiasts prefer. One of those 'if you know you know' type of cars that only a certain group of people can truly appreciate. The only thing I wish was improved is the resolution of the screen and 360 birds eyeview cameras. The auto transmission behavior doesnt deserve as much criticism as it gets if you want a dual personality car.

[@ARentz07]

Agree, the transmission is absolutely fine. Sure, it lacks the wow-factor of a BMW's ZF, but it is smoother a lot of the time.

[@gxplore]

If they offer a manual trans tomorrow, I'd add another one to the household ✅️

[@allenzillmer1917]

Agree about the interior. It will age better than these fancy 'LED's everywhere' interiors.

[@allenzillmer1917]

Excellent video David. I wanted an IS500 during the chip shortage (and therefore could not get one new spec'd out) so I opted for a slightly pre-owned (6K miles) 2020 RCF which has the same 2UR-GSE engine.. No regrets!

[@allenzillmer1917]

At the end of the day I am happy to have upgraded and do not regret it. Just wish I had a GSF as well for hauling more stuff :) @@2ZZGE100

[@arthurl.9985]

Rcf is a better looking and better performing car.

[@allenzillmer1917]

Agreed!@@arthurl.9985

[@user-vn4sv2pw5z]

Congratulations on the great find. I might have considered the very same thing, but I was lucky to get the IS500 spec'd exactly the way I wanted it. Now I have a bit left over for a Husky FE501s

[@allenzillmer1917]

Congrats! Glad it worked out for you. @@user-vn4sv2pw5z

[@rocknrolldog5116]

Finally, a reviewer with knowledge and credentials instead of an amateur with an iPhone.

[@commbubba1990]

Love my 23 IS500. Perfect all around package.

[@CJ-rk5eg]

Love my GSF

[@LONGWALDO]

@@CJ-rk5eggreat car, slightly slower with outdated infotainment, but superb.

[@CJ-rk5eg]

@@LONGWALDO outdated infotainment for sure. But 0-60 is 4.7 seconds…quick enough to enjoy 😉

[@gxplore]

Agreed! ❤

[@85CEKR]

I absolutely love my 23, I can't imagine selling it at this point. I put a non resonated midpipe on it and the sound is twice as good.

[@user-vn4sv2pw5z]

Where did you find this and who did the installation. Can the dealer do the install ?

[@i.d.6492]

@@user-vn4sv2pw5z obviously not. Got to exhaust shops and get it installed. Idk why yall noobs always go for everything to dealerships, most of them have no clue about cars they selling.

[@elizabethwhite4606]

David, I definitely agree with you, all of the manufacturers that have changed their engines from a V-8 to V-6 have definitely downgraded. Awesome four pipe exhaust.

[@michaeljackson1072]

I appreciate the fact that someone with an engineering background and knowledge of automotive technology, did a personal evaluation on the Lexus IS 500. I come from a technical background myself and I can see the superior engineering and built quality of this vehicle. Thank you for your review.

[@michaelclarke7413]

Could not agree more, so well built, especially the engine & drive train. A stronger diff was installed in later models. A great "reliable" performance sedan.

[@user-vn4sv2pw5z]

Based your initial review and after being offered a test drive, I ended purchasing one of these a few months ago. Not sure it is safe for me to watch any more of your videos, as I will burn through my savings if I am not careful ! But it is a great versatile and fun car that makes a comfortable road car as well as fun to drive on winding mountain roads. I knocked out almost 28 mpg on the freeway on a 100 mile run at 72mph on cruise control

[@gxplore]

I believe the mpg! I got 23mpg to Chicago and back home in Los Angeles

[@400wayz]

I love the Lexus F cars. I own a 2018 GS F and really love driving it. I get compliments all of the time when I’m out and about. The only complaint I had was the infotainment system but I recently upgraded it to have Apple Car Play and it made a great difference. I plan to have this car for a long time!

[@user-vn4sv2pw5z]

Those GSF's are a special car.

[@pmiahky]

Great review and detail! Just picked mine up last week after it was on a train from Portland for about 10 days. Came from a 2021 TLX ASpec SHAWD. BIG difference. Obviously power and sound but the fit and finish, craftsmanship, etc. It’s a real joy so far. I wanted blue with the red interior but had to settle with cloudburst grey with the red inside. The body lines and styling still shows off well. It’s way more planted than I expected as well. Barely any body roll. Just a fantastic vehicle! The TLX is such a big and heavy car as well. I’ll miss the ambient lighting but that’s about it. Cheers!

[@markf8256]

My sister-in-law has one. Driven it. It’s very nice. Would love to buy one but at 6’ 223, it’s I bit too snug for me.

[@bobl1769]

Try the the 5.0 Mustang. You’ll be impressed. No fake noise needed.

[@junzhang2087]

I have both LS430 and LX470. Both are very smooth and powerful V8 engine

[@stillinsocal42]

Love my 2022, keep on rolling. Nice Video David. 🚗

[@bigdlife86]

Love my 2023. Traded a 2019 LC500 that was more a show piece than usable, and literally love that this car isn’t a “full F”. Buttery, meaty V8 roar but in a plush, smooth, quiet and super useful package.

[@arthurl.9985]

I would rather have the Lc500.

[@bigdlife86]

@@arthurl.9985 Art show piece. But not a great daily driver. More a weekend “look at me” big heavy coupe. Varies in what you need.

[@arthurl.9985]

@bigdlife86 I get it. Thats exactly what any sporty coupe is.I have an Rc350 black edition that is on the lines of what you said a fair weather only weekend fun car. I have a second car "corolla" for commuting,shopping, driving other people around,etc.

[@ARentz07]

I drove an LC 500 (well, technically, a couple different LC 500s) once, and I loved it. It would be a toss-up whether to keep the IS 500 or go LC 500 some day. Life is short, probably would be best to experience another car rather than just keep the same one forever. But, the IS 500 makes a lot more sense as a daily driver due to its practicality. Plus, in theory, it should handle better due to being several hundred pounds lighter than the LC.

[@user-vn4sv2pw5z]

And its one big advantage is that it is much cheaper allowing one to have another vehicle as well.@@ARentz07

[@omarelsayed7997]

Currently have an 2021 IS350, but I can’t wait to own one of these in the near future! Will for sure add an exhaust to this to head that roar V8 moar.

[@gxplore]

Go test drive one... you'll trade in the 350

[@KtothG]

great tip about the ASC there. I had no idea it could be disabled. that makes a big difference

[@V8Brah]

Excellent video. You can still get one in 2024!

[@user-yo3zh7wb9g]

Brilliant car. Excellent review. Comments are really good also.

[@turnerdrywallrestoration8077]

Great review. This is definitely my next car if I can get my hands on one.

[@ronaldhorton5541]

I’m thinking about buying a new IS 500 but am un decided about the color, but seeing this red I’m leaning towards it with the 10 spoke wheels, thank you for showing this one and I’m sorry you don’t have yours anymore

[@romeropostali520]

Train Engineer!! Wow. I had no idea that’s what you did before this. Very cool.

[@bryanf853]

I feel like you should have kept your IS500, or maybe consider buying one again!

[@nashbridges120]

Another great video. I enjoy every one and look for them. Just watched your LC500 review, too. So which to buy in the spring: a lightly used LC500, or this IS500? I’m genuinely torn.

[@yay842]

Good God, I envy you that you have a choice. I'm biased, but I would take the LC500

[@nashbridges120]

@@yay842 I appreciate. I think you’re prob right. Only drawback is finding the right car out there in used car land. Can be a bear.

[@gxplore]

I have a family... two teens... got the is500 but will add a lc500 in the near future

[@hypeboi676]

I wish Lexus would bring back the IS in station wagon form, imagine an is500 wagon that would be so epic

[@MrBazsi888]

That would be the ultimate dad car ever made.

[@p7272]

I love the wheels!!! Let me go look for a comparison between this and the GS-F. 🤔

[@threeam____]

9:29 Its so nice to find someone with the same taste in cars. I love a good mix of Luxury & Sporty ! 🖤

[@RyanLarivee]

I just bought a 21 nx300 it is the quietest and smoothest vehicle I have ever owned. Traded in an 18 Pro Tacoma on it and not 1 regret

[@floggyWM1]

cool story, but nx300 is in completely different category than is500

[@jimn.9990]

Some of the comments entered here from IS500 owners say they love everything about the IS500, whereas other IS500 owners say although the engine is phenomenal, the transmission, braking, steering and handling are subpar.

[@LONGWALDO]

I love everything about mine. Prefer it to the 2019 Mustang GT premium pp1 I had before.

[@blu_is500]

If the folks actually drove their cars, they wouldn't use 'subpar' as a descriptor anywhere on the 500. Upgrade the tires to PS4S, drop in a sport air filter, and drive the car in Manual & Sport S+ and it's badass. Went on a mountain run last weekend with Bimmers, Porsches, and Vettes...and had no problems hanging with them at all. After 3+ hours of hard driving, I wasn't beaten up at all. Popped that badboy into custom mode and cruised the 2 hours back to the city. If you know when to apply the right driving modes/techniques, this car is the perfect Jekyll & Hyde setup. Unlike the forced induction cars, Lexus makes you work for the fun factor. 😀

[@MaddNomad1015]

Same 2 guys commenting on everything. lol.

[@ARentz07]

I can acknowledge the transmission isn't perfect, but it is objectively very fast-shifting and is super smooth in daily driving. Also, while the suspension is soft, it means the car is very comfy to ride around in. Impacts are no harsher than they are in your average family sedan. Honestly I think the dual-purpose nature of this car, while compromising both sides, makes it something you can drive in pretty much any situation and be happy with.

[@blu_is500]

@@MaddNomad1015 I'm a unashamed troll when it comes to IS500 vids...you better believe it! 😁 I must be right, because the reviews of the IS500 today are different from the 2021/2022 submissions. I guess a few years of touchscreen madness makes one appreciate the IS500's analog/throwback to honest to God muscle car-ism. It's the same story between Lexus and the Automotive Media, trash the car when its released then after a couple years, proclaim it's actually amazing in its own right. Lexus owners accept and embrace it, it's all good! 😀

[@cruisertechgt]

Paint job is also weak with a very soft clear coat compared to other manufacturers. I recommend ceramic coating immediately if you are picky about this. Luckily its just clear coat which scratches easily, and that can be buffed out by hand and scratchx etc.

[@Mckaluge]

Is500 and LC 500 got timeless design

[@flyroninfishing6894]

does this mean I should hang in to my IS F? Similar engine and sound but has other performance goodies such as big brakes and LSD. It’s 14 years old but drives smoother than when it was new.

[@timw2083]

You summed it up well David, particularly about the owners. I didn't buy my IS500 to be a race car but i appreciate the performance and sounds when the conditions are presented. 🎉 The V8 was my main reason for buying it. Do you know why Toyota went from the inline-6 to the V6?

[@bigjdm5460]

Packaging probably and how cost effective it’s been. That 3.5L v6 is everything from Toyota and Lexus , sedans , coupes, crossovers , SUV’s , and pickup trucks.

[@bobwells1517]

150-175 microns is around 6-7 mils, which is indeed very thick. I measured as much as 8 mils on my 23 Incognito Gray IS350, which is crazy for a modern, assembly-built $55k car.

[@AndrewJacobson-cq2om]

I still luv sedans and this would be my pick the 1UR V8 I had In the LS was a great engine!!!

[@mikeflores2000]

I noticed track pad to control screen. New LC 500 deleted this annoyance. Also HD screen resolution for LC 500. Same for IS 500?

[@esteve72]

David, you should've kept the IS500 and got the GX460 too!

[@See6H12O6]

Great car, as much as you miss the IS 500, I miss my 2016 Honda Accord Touring V6 with LaneWatch white/beige, lease buyout was $18K. I really regret not buying it. I got rid of it due to the VCM / long term reliability, if I would've known about the S-VCM, I would've bought it (disables the VCM), now, like you, I have an SUV due to practical needs, a 2022 Pilot Touring with S-VCM installed at 500 miles. They got rid of LaneWatch :( They also got rid of the power/heated mirrors in the Touring and pushed that to the Elite version.

[@jamesbaine580]

What are your thoughts on the 2020 GS350 f sport

[@Philmoscowitz]

I test drove this car. It's set a good price point, it's a Lexus, so you know it's reliable and bullet proof, and it's got a sweet sounding naturally aspirated V8. On the down side, the cabin is cramped, especially the footwell, the brakes are mushy, and the throttle is not very responsive. If Lexus could fix those three things, it would be an awesome car!

[@lrod312]

6 months into owning this baby and Im still blown away. The honeymoon period still hasn’t worn off lol.

[@bobwells1517]

Practicality aside, this would have been my choice over my IS350, but the 350 better serves my purposes for now. Zero regrets here, still blown away by the incredible quality of these cars.

[@clays1507]

Feel the same. Need AWD in Massachusetts. But I really really want the 500

[@floggyWM1]

@@clays1507 No you dont, put a good set of winter tires on RWD, and it will drive fine in snow.

[@jsfbay1]

Hi David, thanks for talking about this car again. Does this V8 have dual injection? I may have to buy one, I just wish it had the 3.0 version of safety equipment 😞My other question is, what is the lowest speed you can engage the cruise control? Our 2017 Corolla won't engage until 28 mph, which works out to 45 kmh. I am hoping that the U.S. version can now work across all speeds, whatever Toyota/Lexus calls that? In other words, it could bring the car to a stop, then it could start up again (e.g., in bumper-to-bumper traffic)? Thanks very much David.

[@LONGWALDO]

Yea it can do all that and do lane changes.

[@blu_is500]

Yup...Port and Direct injection.

[@philhenderson3516]

Yes, but keep in mind this revised 5.0 (2020) has the direct injection operating at higher pressure vs the 2015-2019 version. This higher pressure has presented issues with the high pressure fuel pump seen with the LC500 and the IS500. All they do is replace the fuel pump with a new one.

[@ARentz07]

@@philhenderson3516 I'm on the IS500 forums on Club Lexus, and I think we've seen a total of two owners with issues. One of those was because he had under-glow. So, one.

[@beri232]

If this was AWD, I would buy it! It would cure my craving for a sports car plus give me my “everyday-year-round-driver” that I need for commuting

[@garyclark6747]

We can only hope they continue to see the benefit of their design and continue to produce them. 13:34

[@KtothG]

how's the tire wear on these? I've heard absolute nightmare stories about the IS350s

[@geefim2144]

Picked mine up 2 months ago. Love it . Stylish,comfort and they V8. Did I buy it to race, no. A Lexus when you want it to be and a mustang when you put it in sport + and rev it out. Best of both worlds

[@floggyWM1]

the last thing i want my car to be is a mustang LOL

[@laynemcdonald149]

How does the engineering specs compare to the Lexus IS 350 Sport? I want to buy a IS 350 if the engineering specs compare to the IS 500. I love the IS 500 but not sure I can justify the extra cost to purchase the V-8.

[@sourcefor]

Want it

[@ZAEGAINS]

Go get it 😎

[@bc8580]

I seem to recall you saying that the steering feel was not quite what a sports sedan should be when you sold the car. Would love to hear your thoughts on how the IS500 compares to the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio as a sports sedan.

[@LONGWALDO]

@@layne4376a beautiful car but nobody in their right mind would buy that Fiat…

[@blu_is500]

@@LONGWALDO That part. 👏

[@2k_eddie]

Add aftermarket bushings and a strut bar and steering won’t be a problem

[@ARentz07]

@@layne4376 is here with the consumer advice! He knows what everyone should and shouldn't buy. Subscribe!

[@gxplore]

Lol ​@@LONGWALDO

[@wayneh1562]

such a good looking car

[@JonathanLittle001]

Im still sad sales #s killed off the GS before their current design language could be applied to it.... the LC500 IS500 RCF all we got left (the LS is no longer offering a V8) little known fact, when allowed to breeth the 1uz and 3uz sound remarkable as well, not too dissimilar from the 5.0, you can hear the toyota dna, they sing.

[@CobraShuttle]

Is it confirmed to be engine sound put through the speakers? I thought it was an actual pipe that goes from the engine into the cabin that can be open or closed, so the sound is real.

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

I sold my sports car so I couldn't really justify getting another sports car.I really wanted one of these as I've owned an IS and ES and they were some of the best cars I've had, obviously the ES being FWD is not my favorite feature but it was more for the wife to drive so I didn't care that much😝 I'm a Jeep guy now and I really like that.

[@mikeflores2000]

The Lexus LC500 and IS 500 equipped with a 5.0-liter V8 engine that is part of the Yamaha-developed family. It's known for its performance and is designated as the 2UR-GSE engine.

[@mikeflores2000]

2UR-GSE engine has dual port injection so no carbon buildup in the intake valves.

[@markcoopers1930]

The battery replacement thing is definitely a car by car basis. You can get battery replacements for vehicles like the last gen Prius for $1500, or spend about $4,000 and get a battery with greater capacity than it did when it came out.

[@federal6616]

Huh? No battery power here.

[@markcoopers1930]

​@@federal6616Yeah, TBH I'm not sure either. My best guess is that I was watching and typing out a comment on another video and the comment didn't post until autoplay moved over to this one. Happens sometimes when an ad plays.

[@federal6616]

@@markcoopers1930 Lol...ok bro. I've done it before half asleep. 😆 🤣 😂. I said wtf is he talking about a Prius for? It's cool

[@cruisertechgt]

with regards to the alignment, the tail light beam is mis-aligned on many new lexus IS. The middle beam LED has an offset. I was not impressed with this for a lexus. My Is500 as well as other Lexus IS have the same issue and body shop says its within spec. It should have been 1 continous line but misalignment is noticable. Also the steering wheel has some tolerance issues with some panels on the steering. Even some interior panel near the infotainment. Good to know the doors have a tight tolerance because this is what i expected from a lexus.

[@ARentz07]

My 2021 IS350 had that problem, but my 2023 IS500 does not. It lines up nicely.

[@kamikazikaizer]

Their last run of 1s500 should be manual

[@rsKayiira]

The current Lexus IS is imho the best exterior designed compact sedan of the past decade.

[@dorron2595]

Toyota simply the best,king of auto in every way.👑❤️🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💯

[@CJ-rk5eg]

What are the differences between the V-8’s in the IS 500, the GSF, the RC, and the LC 500?

[@is4life862]

No difference in the engine at all.

[@CJ-rk5eg]

@@is4life862 David - what do you say about this question? Do all of those V8’s have the same internal designations / code names?

[@is4life862]

@@CJ-rk5eg yes

[@timw2083]

​@@CJ-rk5eg the engines and tuning are the same for the 2UR-GSE. The ISF and GSF have different performance enhancements like brakes and oil/transmission coolers. The exhaust and transmission are different in the LC500. I have an IS500 and LC500

[@ARentz07]

I think the LC 500 has a sound tube and dual intakes whereas the RC F, GS F, and IS 500 lack the sound tube and have a single throttle body/intake.

[@conroexlexx8267]

I want to get an IS500 in the incognito grey one day

[@seikocitizenwatches]

IS500 is absolutely a stunning automobile regardless. Unfortunately, not many can afford one during this bad period of America due to high inflation, anti fossil fuels, poor economic conditions and high interest rates era.

[@randyr4193]

I wish Lexus would put this motor in the LS. I think it would be perfection!

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

like it and the LC 500 coupe

[@theofficialpeterkim]

Supra and IS500 are priced similar. Which one would you choose?

[@LONGWALDO]

Is500 for the v8 every time, if that doesn’t bother you, get the supra.

[@arthurl.9985]

Supra is faster the Lexus is nicer looking and has a better interior. Also built better than that Bmw/toyota hybrid😂 choose what works for you.

[@beri232]

I want fast but also want comfort for long road trips. A V8 and better build quality…. IS500 all the way for this guy!

[@ARentz07]

I actually have thought about dropping my IS 500 for a Supra, but I have a feeling I'll miss the engine sound and character too much. lol

[@John-yg2jw]

David, do you think the is 500 models will become future collectibles? Is it still worth buying in 2024?

[@commbubba1990]

I do. Last V8 sedan. Once Lexus ends production I can see them becoming desired 5 years or so later if that.

[@moonman_8935]

Low mileage ISF's especially 2012-2014 go for top $$ on the used car market.

[@LONGWALDO]

@@layne4376same transmission, the is500 actually tracked faster when tested by Car and Driver.

[@blu_is500]

@@LONGWALDO I think it's so funny how many people miss that fact. The IS500 has the exact same transmission found in the RCF. We do not have the extra cooling, super tight suspension, or the brake kit...and they're only relevant for track work. And 98% of the time you'll be on the street, not the track. 🙂

[@ARentz07]

@@layne4376 Are you sure you two are looking at the same Lightning Lap? 😂 The IS 500 beat every single IS F LL time. 2022 Lexus IS500 F Sport, 3:04.9 2011 Lexus IS F, 3:05.4 FWIW, it also beat out the 2015 RC F.

[@JorgeDiaz-wc6yu]

I have question is last v8 Lexus 2024 or

[@CheaperEngineer]

ISF owner here, and I enjoy the engine sound too. :-) Curious if the ASC mimics the secondary airbox flapper valve opening @ ~3700rpm? Or is it just applying synthetic V8 sounds at lower load and rpm?

[@allenzillmer1917]

I was not knowledgeable about Lexus "F" products when I got my IS350. Recall one day when I was going down the road with my 2014 IS350 V6 and this slightly older IS "X" pulled along side me and gunned it. At that moment I learned that the ISF was a thing. :) Congrats man.... the other dream car for me.

[@ARentz07]

The airbox still opens in the IS 500. So, it'll sound basically the same as an IS F if you turn ASC off.

[@cruisertechgt]

IS500 is an engineers dream car. Maybe i would say a GSF actually!

[@paulbugoni2846]

Amazing how both the M2 and this car have been criticized for the lack of steering feel.

[@richardlanier2113]

I want the is500 and gx460.

[@ARentz07]

"Why not both?" is a valid question for David.

[@artjomslivenskis429]

1 think is missing on IS - wagon body.

[@edwardeidinger8235]

I think the lc500 sounds a little better it has more aggressive sound

[@burningknuckle26]

Love this car

[@drjqool]

TESLA take note on panel gap. I think they left the planet and went to Mars with Elon. LMAO

[@pinkipipe]

Why is that big gab 0-60 mph between Is500 VS Lexus LC 500 ?

[@jonathanratliff4780]

LC is a considerably heavier GT car

[@arthurl.9985]

They both are around 4.5sec. The Rcf is quicker at 4.2 or 3.9 for the track or fuji editions.

[@erickgomez1798]

Transmission is different, not the same in those both car, if I’m not wrong the LC500 comes with a 10 speed tranny and the IS500 comes with the 6 speed tranny.

[@tubedude92]

@@erickgomez1798IS500 comes with 8 speed not 6 speed

[@trueblueamerican9]

I sold mine roughly a month after I bought it. It is a great looking car and the V8 has tons of character but that’s about it. Steering had a dead center, transmission was clunky and slow, and it just didn’t feel like a 60k car. There’s just so many better vehicles at that price point that I was let down for what I got.

[@arthurl.9985]

I don't know about the dead spot in the steering but I have the 8 spd trans in my Rc350. I never felt it being slow or clunky.

[@trueblueamerican9]

Well the dead spot was there. An absolute disconnect from any steering feel. Don’t know how much this is influenced by Lexus Driving Signature or just the way an IS feels but it was there. I also believe the tune was to blame not so much the transmission itself. But it is absolutely slow compared to say a ZF. The transmission would “clunk” on downshift gear skips. It would only seem to function well going balls to the wall or completely babying it. Not what should be acceptable at that price point and as something Lexus is advertising as a F Sport Performance model.

[@arthurl.9985]

@@trueblueamerican9 Sorry you had so much trouble with the car.

[@cloudypac]

@@trueblueamerican9I agree with the steering dead spot. I have 22 IS350

[@ARentz07]

@@trueblueamerican9lol you should drive a modern BMW. The Lexus may as well have zero dead zone on-center compared to those. My wife's X3 is hilarious. I can wiggle the steering wheel back and forth, and the car does not respond. In my IS the car darts back and forth when I do that.

[@SAMBODYfitness]

Is500 or RCF?

[@JorgeDiaz-wc6yu]

Is the last v8 Lexus 2024 or 2025

[@darrellallen4409]

Like it a lot!!!!

[@planbparadise2046]

So which is better: IS 500 or LC 500 ???

[@frankaustria4161]

The IS is around $68K, while the LC is around $130K. For the money, I would say the IS500, but that's just me. Additionally, there is a video floating around KZbin where the IS500 beat the LC500 in a drag race (2 out of 3 times).

[@edwardcarballo5843]

I bought my 2023 Is 500 because of the grill.

[@Arkeo36]

All I want to know is if a child safety seat can go in the center or behind the passenger seat with enough room for a short adult to sit in the passenger seat.

[@asifyork]

No. Not enough room for the adult

[@Arkeo36]

@@asifyork my wife is very short - 5 foot 1. Still not enough room?

[@ARentz07]

@@Arkeo36 Your wife will be fine. My mother-in-law is 5'11" and has been in the rear seat of my car several times.

[@edwardeidinger8235]

Great car I want one but it’s a little pricey dealers are marking them up $10,000.00

[@JustAnotherRandomNPC]

This is not true anymore..selling for less than MSRP now. If youre still coming across dealers like that...tell them to get rekt.

[@markspence3750]

Sports cars seem to be the only cars that increase in value.

[@cpcxgsr]

I never understood why car manufacturers pumps in fake engine noise into their cars...

[@tubedude92]

its not fake engine noise

[@redline3573]

I NEEEEEEEEED ITTTTTTTTTTT😭😭😭😭

[@KtothG]

can the electronic nannys be disabled enough to actually fish-tail one of these?

[@mnwolves180]

This engine is not track oriented like the F cars. It does not have the extra engine coolers like the F cars.

[@arthurlambert6418]

Bad gas mileage

[@jpdoc5722]

That should have been the “Supra” , sans rear doors

[@jpdoc5722]

and add twin turbochargers 👍

[@ARentz07]

Sounds like you are describing the Lexus RC F.

[@jpdoc5722]

SEMA iS-600 has those 2twin turbos

[@ARentz07]

@@jpdoc5722 Right, but it's a twin-turbo V-6, not a V-8 like in the 500.

[@ARentz07]

@@layne4376 You are putting words in his mouth, so to speak, but sure.

[@ryanb8736]

If only your knees were made by Lexus.

[@lexusrcf2441]

The took the more appealing previous generation IS and blew it up so it loses its edges and now look like a big bulky balloon. I don’t like it and I’m keeping my Lexus RCF

[@i.d.6492]

No reason to dwell in the pass. Get CT5V Black wing, you won't be selling that car, trust me

[@100M2B]

I'd LOVE TO buy the last V8 Lexus sedan. But, that grill design is just too ugly for my taste and it won't age well either.

[@beri232]

I bet it does age well. It looks better on this model then most of their other models. I also like it on the LC500 and the NX. I hate the spindle grill on every other Lexus model though…. however, I still bought a 2022 RX for my wife with zero regrets so far.