Batman Forever Podcast Commentary

[@multiplemiggs1075]

Look it up. Batman WAS in the courtroom when Dent became Two-Face in the comic .

[@hkr0065]

Sure but it doesnt make it any less sillier. 😂

[@AngusStewart01]

This and Batman begins were my favorite batman films i love the performance of Jim carry as the riddler and id love for him to play it again.I usally watch this film for Jim carry's scenes when i do watch this film.

[@MysticalGreenBeanie]

i still do think that this is the best of the original 4

[@COMICFILMEXPERT]

Elizabeth Sanders (Bob Kane's wife) IS in "Batman Returns." The bit scene with the Gothamites reading the newspapers just before we get Pfieffer's debut as Catwoman saving Joan. Sanders is the one that says "He's like a frog that became a prince."

[@Smee319]

There were rumors that the special edition DVD would feature a director's cut, and Shumacher has expressed his interest, but alas it hasn't happened.

[@TheMegaDudeBroski]

I started watching this podcast but never saw the movie. I ordered it a few days ago on Amazon and was waiting on it to get here. I pause this to check the mail and sure enough it's out there.

[@fanofmusicals]

I just got done listening to this, and I found it really enlightening! I enjoyed it very much, and you both brought up a lot of interesting points! Although I like the film very much (it's my personal favorite of the Batman films), you brought up things I never even thought about. For me, personally, although I appreciated that you tried to put things into context for those who don't want to watch the movie along with you, I find that your thoughts made much more sense when watching the film.

[@AlexThomasReviews]

I Watch This Every Time I Watch Batman Forever & Batman And Robin!!!

[@gothamingbatman5620]

Same:)

[@thedeadpoolchannel1]

Batman forever is a good movie

[@COMICFILMEXPERT]

And I always interpreted seeing Batman walking away as a combination of Cap's belief that he's not receiving any necessary information by that point...and it's attempt to show him as a figure of efficiency...a blunt instrument. Instead of negotiating or coming up with an elaborate scheme of infiltration, he takes the direct approach into the bank because, well, he's Batman.

[@deckthelols4813]

The scene in the circus where Dick is trying to get rid of the bomb always reminds me of 1966 Batman movie! "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb" hahahaha!

[@comicbookfan2297]

Also this soundtrack was great as well I agree with you. I loved Seal's song on it. This still is my favorite batman film of the originals and I always watched it as a kid more then the others. And I also found it weird that Batman walked away from Chase at the beginning lol. And Bruce's flashbacks were creepy. Very well done. I just wished they wouldn't have cut those out.

[@hiran558]

my vocabulary expands when i listen to your videos. thanks

[@666deadman1988]

I consider Batman Forever a good movie, and it was also the first Batman movie I ever saw in the theatre, so it holds a special place in my heart.

[@Geekvolution]

I'm not sure who I'll do that movie with yet. I kinda want to find a Superman buff like I've done with Spider-Man. -CL

[@bj1761]

@geekvolution. Hey guys, I know that Nolan did not want the Riddler in his Batman movies due to him not being an imposing force. However, I believe a movie with the Riddler should channel certain movie plots such as Die Hard 3 and Speed to make a movie with the Riddler interesting. How do you feel about this?

[@LeighMet]

Bassinger character was suppose to be a composite of vale and St. Cloud.

[@Vader47000]

I love the character parallels in this film. Batman/Bruce Wayne in the center, and you have Riddler who wants to be Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson who wants to be Batman. And you have Two-Face, who embodies the duality of it all. Two-Face hates Batman and Riddler hates Bruce Wayne, not knowing the same guy is their main enemy until the end. (this aspect could have been played up better). Bruce has his own dual identity struggle, between being Batman for Dick or being Bruce for Chase.

[@christianknight3014]

Another good commetary Cap and Manos,you have not done a bad commentary so far.

[@bluedragonfive]

Ed Beagle Jr in addition to voicing charlie collins(jokers favor) and germs(feat of clay) he voiced the prostetics doctor in batman beyond in the episode april moon(the one with the 4 thugs with the robotic implants) I think in the burton shumacher films he could have made a good jim gordon.

[@wwb16]

i would love to see a director's cut of this movie someday. with the two-face/arkham opening sequence

[@maverickhunterdelta]

That. and They finally got Robin realized on the big screen. I still get goosebumps on seeing him appear for the first time. (and NOT wearing short shorts costume version >

[@RedRobin696]

Cap I commend you and manos for putting your patience to the test next week with Batman and Robin, It takes true courage to sit through That thing

[@TheMclovin5150]

Bob Kane's wife is in Batman Returns for a brief second in the begining of the film.

[@RadioActiveRyan62]

I cannot wait for this to get the Rewind Project Treatment!

[@JohnAvengerJR1985]

While I do enjoy both of these films,Batman Forever does have a more nostalgic feel to it because of when it was made.I was a kid in 1995 and I saw it more than Spiderman the movie back in 2002.

[@PaladinHero]

Could you guys do one of these for Wrath of Khan, Ghostbusters, Aliens, Independence Day, or something a little more obscure like UHF, What About Bob?, or The Fall?

[@Farmeryeti]

This is actually my favourite Batman movie. I even like it more than the Nolan films.

[@johnnyraven7980]

And that's fine. I don't like Dark Knight Rises. I like Dark Knight. Batman and Robin to me isn't as bad as people make out to be.

[@Geekvolution]

That one should be coming up this week! -CL

[@astrostar49]

TheRealManos was talking about R.Kelly on one of the songs for the soundtrack to Batman and Robin. Shocking to hear him say he was a terrible artist, as he has won numerous accolades throughout his career for his R&B music.

[@gamestation2690]

When are you doing the Spider-Man 3 commentary? I'm already excited for that one.

[@krisj827]

One of the most honest comments ever on KZbin. Totally agree.

[@veggiekid23]

great, i had it all synced up, i was halfway through the movie, and my flash crashes. now i have to restart the movie because i can't resync it.

[@bluedragonfive]

thought this would be realevent given riddler being the featured villian,was watching gremlins 2 the new batch and john glover is great in it.

[@BrowncoatAllywang]

Hey would you guys ever consider a commentary of Fight Club?

[@COMICFILMEXPERT]

Great minds must think alike because Manos' comment about Kilmer being the George Lazenby of Batman actors was ripped right out of the agony booth review for the film.

[@Geekvolution]

Well, I did 1989 with Vince, so he and I will probably tackle Returns too. We just haven't gotten to it. -CL

[@TheAaronChand]

Jim Carey Age was 29 in 1991

[@moviereviews4life]

Any chance I could join in one of these podcast

[@Smashy-rw8kr]

The only part I liked in this movie was Chase's accidental shot of her stockings in the Riddler's final riddle scene.

[@DeepEye1994]

Captain Logan, have you ever seen "Batman: the Brave and the Bold"?

[@stevenmarkoll552]

I've said for a long time, that if Tommy Lee Jones played that role serious and quiet, his chemistry would work so well with Jim Carrey bc his character would have been annoyed and angry at Riddler all the time and considered killing him most of the time. I'm glad that these guys mentioned that as well.....Batman Forever really is not a bad film, btw. It gets bad heat because its lighter than Burton films, but its a solid action adventure version of Batman, I enjoyed and still enjoy it to this day. In fact, I like it more than Dark Knight Rises which has 20 minutes of Batman and is boring. The Robin in this version is much better than the Robin in Dark Knight Rises.

[@desotowright]

I've always thought the same. Like maybe Two-Face just puts up with him and can be in the background just rolling his eyes and fiddling with the coin. It would have been funnier too.

[@Reborn8303]

I know sometimes you do research on the writers. Do you know who Lee Batchler and Janet Scott Batchler are ??? and how they were picked to write the screen play with Akiva Goldsman ?

[@robobrando]

can you do returns with eric?

[@DeepEye1994]

Oh god. "Why does he laugh all the time? Does being evil make you feel drunk?" That killed me XDDD

[@tommyrichman7220]

if i had a way to communicate to you, i'd volunteer for the Superman commentary.

[@johnnyfive222]

Thought you were going to do batman and robin this week?

[@JJSREVIEW]

Did you ever do Batman Returns

[@iamsuperbatman1993]

To be fair, the "camp" in both "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" were not Schumachers fault. They were parents/studios fault who told him to make it lighter and more child friendly, if you seen films like "The Lost Boys" and "Phone Booth" which are dark and convinces me that Schumacher could actually direct a good Batman movie (he even wanted to make a film based on Batman Year One for god sake) and in my opinion better than most of Tim Burtons film (minus Ed Wood)

[@PaladinHero]

OMG. I just checked out his IMDb page and you're right. Wow, that's kind of impressive in a way.

[@johnnyfive222]

You guys were wrong about Jim Carrey. He was popular before this because of Ace Ventura came out in 1993. That's how he got popular and why he was casted for forever because his popularity grew after Ace Ventura not the Mask. Plus he was already popular for living color.

[@ShadesAtKnight]

This was a lot of fun.

[@Geekvolution]

Wow, thanks! -CL

[@shoshawty2]

Cap, when are you going to do a commentary on the original Superman film? I'm kind of surprised you haven't done it yet, considering you've done commentaries for two Spider-Man movies and three Bat-flicks...

[@PaladinHero]

Around the 37:00 mark there was a really good opportunity for a "Robin of the Hood" joke. ;)

[@gnil2000]

when you said tommey did not have good direction i heared it was kinda the oppised joel wanted him to be seririous and sollen but he wouled not conply on set and keeped the silley perfermace he keep up

[@Smee319]

One little disappointment I have: I was hoping you guys would discuss whether Keaton's Batman would've fit this movie since he was originally attached. I find it hard to picture, but Keaton said he ultimately walked because he and Joel Shumacher didn't see eye-to-eye. Recently, Shumacher, Keaton and even Kilmer have pointed to Batman Begins and said that was the movie they wanted Batman Forever to be. Also, any thoughts on whether Robin Williams would have been better than Jim Carrey?

[@nicholastosoni707]

What's going on with Two-Face: The Box is making *him* as doolally as Riddler.

[@johnnyfive222]

Nice commentary although I think Returns was a bit better but to each there own. Are you going to do any horror movie podcasts since Halloween is coming up? A pod cast of Halloween would be awesome or scream.

[@BobTheHun64]

I heard the reason Tommy Lee Jones was over the top was so not to be upstaged by Jim Carrey. They wanted to play him straight to contrast Riddler's goofiness, but he went against what Joel Schumacer wanted, frequently disobeying him because he was afraid of Jim Carrey outshining him.

[@mew10521]

really?

[@jugulator95]

How come you skipped batman returns

[@MultiSuperreviews]

Wow guys nice commentary! I totally agree, Val kilmer is the best Batman. Just very underrated.

[@tjtoonz]

out of the original 4 this one is my fav

[@SavageBroadcast]

Really? Try a guy getting his back broken, a guy getting his neck broken, a stadium with players getting blown up, a dirty underground prison, police walking across thin ice, Bane, a haunting chant and even the 'ghost' of a previous villain. I don't know how little Tommy would react to that....

[@NerdManReturns]

1:55 It's the final murder, until Batman Begins when Bruce kills Ra's al Ghul.

[@TheHawkdaddy]

To be honest, Forever is the only one of the original Batman films I like.

[@rocketdave719]

I might be the only one, but I'd listen to a Roman Holiday commentary.

[@comicbookfan2297]

first time listening to this commentary I have to say I agree with you guys on several things. I also liked Val Kilmer as Batman. He was great and very underrated. And I am glad that you guys stood up for Maggie in the Dark Knight. People calling her ugly was just mean just because she is not as hot as Nicole Kidman. I also thought she was attractive. My only complain is Manos ripping Joseph Gordon in Dark Knight rises. He just comes off as a raging Dick Grayson Fan boy. But the rest was great.

[@Mantwig]

Do more! :D

[@Sungetsu15]

Was she Mrs. Cobblepot? I totally forgot. ^_^;

[@sfrazeur]

I still like Batman Forever. I enjoy the art style of the film as well. I would rank this as my 4th prefered live action Batman Film. The Dark Knight Batman Begins The Dark Knight Rises Batman Forever Batman 1966 Batman 1989 Batman Returns Batman & Robin

[@JoeChillton]

Cap, you gonna do one for Batman and Robin as well?? Granted you'd probubly get some booze for that too. lol

[@ItsThatRetro]

"The best Joel Schumacher movie" Falling Down?

[@funkymonk255]

Raymond Gallant lost boys

[@WEAVERBRAND91]

Yeah, I'm watched Batman Returns multiple times and could never get into it. Tim Burton was given complete control and made a Tim Burton film that just so happened to have Batman in it.

[@conwayandwhitmanman]

I agree with you. As much crap as Schumacher got (deservedly so) for being "camp", Returns also had as much if not more camp piled into that piece of garbage. People have selective memory because Burton used such a bleak color palette but look at the performances outside of Keaton and Gough, who were the only actors treating this film like a Batman film, and you'll see over the top acting all around.

[@wwb16]

i somewhat agree

[@nowknowthis]

woahwoahwaohwaohwaoh Did Captain Logan just say Badass??????

[@johnnyfive222]

Guys one mistake Jim Carrey was already big before this with Ace Ventura and living color in the eighties and early 90's

[@ItsThatRetro]

+Halo Maker 30 Yeah, this was right in the middle of Carrey's hot streak.

[@BobTheHun64]

I liked this movie, its very underrated.

[@moviereviews4life]

well commentaries I mean

[@gamestation2690]

I still don't see it.

[@casmith1998]

I honestly liked this movie.

[@LooneyTunesFanatic27]

BTW this is way better than Rifftrax

[@Adomination08]

Yeeeahhh mannnoooooooooooooos

[@johnnyfive222]

Yes the original evil dead would be great :)

[@comicbookfan2297]

One more thing i disagree with is ur opinion that spider-man is a better movie then this. I have to disagree with this. I enjoyed this movie more then spider-man and will watch batman forever over spider-man any day. Part of it is because of child hood love for this film.

[@Jcool0]

It is a known fact Joel Schumacher hasn't made a good movie since 1996.

[@chumpey]

Love your videos guys, but Manos: PLEASE try and stop going "AUUUUMM" every other sentence!!

[@VHunterBillyBob]

Lucy, Bruce Wayne is coming!!

[@LooneyTunesFanatic27]

Show how to punch a guy! lol

[@iamsuperbatman1993]

Still I think Batman Forever is a superior to Batman Returns, which is a truly overrated.

[@TheDarkkirb]

Joel Schumacher is a lazy director

[@MysticalGreenBeanie]

what other movies of his have you seen?

[@riderfan215]

You idiots and your prequel bashing. I know you have nostalgia goggles dragging you into loserville, but the Original trilogy has horrible cheesy dialogue too. The Original trilogy has just as many things that make it ridiculous but NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER THAT. Also, I want you to remember that although the prequels might not fit "Your Vision" STAR WARS is GEORGE LUCAS' CREATION. Therefore HE HAD FINAL SAY IN THE MAKING OF THE PREQUELS. It is HIS STORY and HE DID IT HOW HE WANTED.

[@batfan5172]

and so die shomaker with batman and robin.and the winner of the cop out of the decade award goes riderfan215.give the man a coconut.

[@MichaelMcCallister097]

I watched empire like, last week. Still think it's 10x better written than the prequels. RotS is still enjoyable for me, but I still think it has awful dialogue.