Being a black kpop fan: Culture appropriation, “but namjoon”,SM doesnt pay black writers,etc

[@monie9463]

Hello guys after doing more research about the Seventeen situation they did not say the n word with the er it just sounded like that but they were singing a monsta x song. Around the time I filmed this video I saw that clip down my timeline and everyone was in a uproar about the situation. I’m genuinely sorry about the mistake.

[@sking6182]

Why say anything close to it in the first place stop making excuses for them. If black people can white accountable for small racial slip ups why not asians their actually taught to dislike blacks. Ask any asian person I though black people were stronger than this mess here. Wow

[@monie9463]

@@sking6182 Hello, I wasn’t making excuses for anyone... I literally said that I did more research and found out they didn’t say it. Also it’s ‘black people’ not blacks thank you.

[@ultymateslayong6758]

@yu _ youtuber "adeola ash" made a video on that topic if you're interested.

[@ultymateslayong6758]

@yu _ oh ok then

[@nydayo]

Hey this is a bit random but can I interview you for a teen mag catering to black teens? My @ is sincerelynyny if so

[@kenzouwu5832]

The people that says “I don’t care and I’m black” have hecka pick me energy

[@adrianaroblesgomez5377]

Not only black kpop fans it goes for Indians,Hispanics and native Americans

[@castrocarolina1068]

why hispanics?

[@Boonies]

@@castrocarolina1068 because they are poc

[@YE-dr3zk]

@@castrocarolina1068 Because some might actually be of indigenous American heritage

[@asmaislam7440]

Eventhough people of pakistan bangladesh r kinda like Indian still they r considered beautiful but not indians, why??

[@aathira741]

@@asmaislam7440 I- Who are they? I just wanna have some "talk"

[@Lavyeks]

Everything you’re saying is pure FACTS. Yes namjoon did mess up, he was uneducated and didn’t know it was wrong at the time. But when he realised what he did was wrong he fully educated himself and the other members so they wouldn’t make the same mistake. Stop bringing 18-19 year old Namjoon into scandals from your idols. RM is the definition of character development. Your favs continue to cultural appropriate, say the N word and make racist remarks. There’s a difference. One apologised, educated themselves and never did it again Others apologised, and continued some didn’t even apologise

[@laurenj6802]

The words "I'm sorry or I apologize" have never come from his mouth. How can I forgive someone who hasn't said sorry.

[@Lavyeks]

@@laurenj6802 he has apologised in articles and interviews and you can see how much he regrets what he did. He is so thoughtful and pays attentions to everything. He supports blm, and makes sure to fix/avoid any misunderstandings aka the korean word sound like the n word in fake love. He’s an educated man :)

[@Lavyeks]

@@bread3987 because of the many videos and interviews where he has said he has regretted having that hair or doing certain things :) everything i’m saying is out there you just gotta look

[@Spiderpunkrocks]

Gurl say it louder

[@Spiderpunkrocks]

@@bread3987 he's uneducated that's it period, its not that deep,. I'm pretty sure he never intend to offend anyone and the fact that he stopped doing it, and contributed to blm and apologises is enough said that he was just ignorant. Because damn even me at that time since I live in Asia as well has zero knowledge of racism, and I did have my moments which I'm not very proud of, but now that I know i try my best to understand equality and racism, to avoid offending anybody. Assuming that he is still racist because of that one time when especially he never did anything to offend other culture after that is kinda hmmm I can't find the words, but it ain't it

[@fridaabudu322]

Chan (from stray kids) apologized on vlive and hasnt done anything like than again

[@nighteyesiv]

That EXO clip haunts me. I legit do not understand how in 2020 they're acting like they've never heard of black face before and don't "realize" they're appropriating cultures they don't respect enough to research? There isn't a place on this earth that hasn't heard the N word is wrong. No one wants to listen to these "ignorance" excuses anymore. And these stylists need to be educated too because YG has a history of music videos appropriating cultures with Native American Headdresses, Black hairstyles, religious objects used inappropriately. The more kpop expands globally the more all eyes are on them expecting actual apologies and effort. Its exhausting trying to say I love kpop while also watching other white people defend this nonsense constantly

[@ayomideobolo6495]

okay i get what you mean, but am a black african in africa and i know the word but i never knew it was bad until two years ago when i moved to teh Uk

[@cariellison1769]

I grew up in America, the US, and didn’t hear it until a few years ago. I can imagine that there are many ppl in the world that haven’t heard it or don’t know about it’s origin. But I agree with everything else you said

[@swty.x_]

the exo clip is old though

[@SeaDemon25]

"There isn't a place on this earth that hasn't heard the N word is wrong" thats 100% not true, i am from portugal, in case u dont know where it is, its in West Europe, just like the UK, France, Spain, and i didnt know that the n word was wrong, and i said it lots of times with songs, i ear portuguese say it too, i asked my cousins and friend and half of them did not know what N word means, i had to say it outloud for them to know, and even then they didnt know we cant say it. So there are many many places in this world that dont know the n word is wrong. Dont asume just becouse u know and live in a coutry where thats commun information than its like that everywhere

[@katsu2014]

@@swty.x_ that don’t mean nothing. They haven’t even apologized.

[@taejinsguccipant9865]

Your feelings are valid. Thank you so much for speaking up bout this. This was a topic that needs to be talked bout by someone who has been directly affected by all this & is on the receiving end of the fandom's anger. As a poc I know what you feel & therefore I respect you more & more for this. Hope other black fans & poc fans can get the respect they rightfully deserve & have a safe place to give their opinion

[@monie9463]

Thank you so much

[@namjooningdc4530]

all the facts here!!! seriously, you've done a really good job summing things up and explaining the deeper implications that cultural appropriation has on the way people grow/the fan base/people affected by a given idol's actions. hats off to you, i really hope this video goes viral because so many people need to hear what you've said :D

[@monie9463]

Thank you so much this means so much to me seriously

[@wndrhanni]

5:37 as a black kpop stan, i totally agree with this, i would rather them grow from their mistakes and not do it again.

[@wndrhanni]

and I'm honestly surprised soyeon and gidle hasn't been dragged through the ground 😬✋

[@jaylalala]

I myself am not deeply into k-pop, I listen to a few groups here and there but after watching this VERY wonderful & informative video I will MOST definitely not be supporting just anyone now. Thank you so much!!! Also imuuuuu, I hope you're doing well and are safe

[@monie9463]

Im so glad you enjoyed!! Thank you smm!! Imu too!! I hope you and your family are safe during these times

[@makcsim]

It’s the way that only facts were spoken here...i hope that these companies and idols change cause it’s not gonna be cute if they keep up this same behavior; also for the kpop fans to educate themselves because really that’s all it takes to know why cultural appropriation is that deep. This is a great video as always!!

[@monie9463]

Makayla Campbell thank you sm!! And yess!! Like nobody wants to have to go through an apology for CA every month. Simply just educate yourself so we dont have to deal with it anymore.

[@monie9463]

Like I said in the video I am not attacking these idols I am hoping that they can grow and learn to become more open minded of their actions. They have a huge young following. They should understand that people look up to them and that they are teaching future generations that doing culture appropriation and saying the n word is ok even though it is not.

[@myiacook]

I just wanted to let you know that you look gorgeous girl 😍😍

[@monie9463]

Mya_Mya thank you so much ❤️

[@myiacook]

@@monie9463 you're welcome 😊

[@icysnow5410]

(This is long) Honestly I feel like it’s SM entertainment that’s not letting their artists apologize bc when it comes to things like irenes scandal or jaehyuns COVID scandal they release a statement soo quick bc Korean fans are mad. When it comes to their artists getting into trouble with some sort of cultural appropriation and international fans are mad they become quiet asf. I also feel like some fans take it too far bc when the apologizenct hashtag on Twitter became a thing and ppl were speaking out on there, Mark(nct) had this one Vlive and people were giving him death threats(he was reading comments and ppl were also saying apologizenct also so it’s obvious that he saw it). Like I get you want them to be aware but to push them to die that’s another level. I’m just waiting for when these artists leave Sm entertainment and they spill the tea bc ik SM is holding them back.

[@kpoopyhead]

on behalf of korean kpop fans and koreans in general, i am so sorry. i have studied for quite a while now about other cultures and their histories, and i understand how certain aspects of culture are incredibly important to certain ethnicities, regions, religions, etc. that’s why i am so careful in what i do and say when i do certain things pertaining to a certain culture. for example, when i learned english, i made sure i understood its origins and how it was able to spread the way it did. i wanted to understand it before i learned it. even though i learned the united kingdom’s version of english, i still went as far as to learn the history of america since i wanted to understand certain american terms/words. that’s when i learned english slurs and i have never felt worse about learning the origins of the n word. i remember feeling so disgusted when i learned its meaning, yet a lot of koreans still don’t know what it means because they never teach us in school about this sort of thing. we never learned about american culture or events that can be considered “insignificant” to our country. that’s why koreans may never truly understand other cultures of people we never really understand unless it’s implemented into our education system. that’s also probably why korean fans can get so defensive over their favourite groups: they don’t understand what the certain cultural aspects mean to certain people so, when people get upset, they take it as hatred when in reality, people just want an apology so they can forgive the celebrity and help them learn and grow. we’re ignorant in a lot of things, and, in korea, it so happen to be the place where we lack knowledge in is other cultures. i know how bad it can hurt when someone takes your culture and uses it as their own without even knowing where it came from. you don’t understand how many times i’ve cried seeing others appropriate our culture. that’s why i feel for you and other black kpop fans. i know what it feels like to have your culture ripped away from you and being used as mockery, fashion, etc. it hurts, especially when you look up to some of these idols. for the emotional pain some of my fellow koreans have caused you and others, i am sorry. i really want my country to learn why we shouldn’t do certain things or wear something that doesn’t belong to us without understanding it first. it’s going to take a long time before korean understands these things, but we just have to work on it together at an international level. we need to see eye to eye and try to understand each other before making any progress. i want my country to see how by doing certain things relating to culture can severely affect others. i just wanted to let you know that i really do hope you know that you’re loved. i know it hurts so much when people just take your culture and mock it or use it as their own, but you and others have got to stay strong and teach people why doing these things is wrong. if you get hate comments in this video, ignore them. don’t even reply. let them sit there and be lost in time. to anyone else who reads this: i dont care if you’re black, white, hispanic, or whatever you may be, you’re beautiful and no one has the right to mock your culture and make you feel awful. i am so sorry that my country does the things it does; we’re ignorant when it comes to others’ culture. i’ve been going on for a while so i will stop here. have a wonderful new year :)

[@dj2fluencer]

I wish more people would see this!!

[@jaylalala]

LMAOOOO "the math is truly not mathing for me"- simone, 2020

[@lovelyyolie2793]

👏🏾👏🏾We as black people are the blueprint of many things in different culture. 95% of Kpop is based on black music and culture but we're mocked and hated. The biggest problem is our culture and things that we cherish, they dont respect us but if a black artist rocked something of Korean culture and heritage it would be horrible (and wrong). For me, the labels behind them dont care how they disrespect black people and most of these "artist" have zero voice (which still has me confused on how so many follow their every word). Now some idols are trying to be better and appeal to all cultures respectfully and it shows, and then there is the ones who as you see will on peak in their own country.

[@kenzouwu5832]

That’s what I’m saying !!! When they favs get into it they don’t wanna cancel them and then bring other idols that we like into it and then say “why aren’t we canceling them .” Thank you for showing this honestly. Now I’m trying to figure out who to stan .

[@monie9463]

Kenzo Uwu thank you so much for seeing my point of view i truly appreciate it. That was one of my fears posting this video that people would misunderstand or say “why didn’t you mention this idol” like it’s not about how many idols did it or who did it. The moral of the story is they need to educate themselves about other cultures.

[@meena_deb3795]

As stay i am just here to say,Chan apologized for what he has done.. he apologized for both the incidents.. As we see they have changed .. people make mistakes..they did too then.. they apologized n understood..unlike other ppl who kept repeated doing the same stuff ..i m not defending..i m try to express they aren't ignorant anymore.. many black stays had Vc with Chan they communicated and sorted out.. AS A STAY i can assure that they have learned from their mistakes. SKZ +STAYS = FAM . No matter what country you are in, no what matter what you to choose to be..you deserve to be happy for this Christmas. . - Bang chan Dec 2020 I wish you all happy new year.. I wish kpop idols change for better..music suppose heal ,not to hurt or offend.

[@Angelina-pr5hl]

I'm not a black person but I just want to say: If you're black and you're not offended by any of this that's your personal opinion but stop telling other black people to not feel offended. Like... why do you sh*t on your own community I don't get it.

[@thiswillnotdo6027]

love this video! awesome to see a black person talk about this and how its affected your community. Im also as an indian quite used to kpop idols using my culture, even as a blink, im always a bit disappointed whenever I remember how blackpink have used hindu and indian aspects in their clothing (jennie wore a bindi in the ddu ddu video) AND then turn around and mock bharatnayam which is a hindu traditional dance?? like this is the thing, they use the cultures of BIPOC for their own benefit but mock the BIPOC for doing it themselves. I fucking hate that with a passion.

[@Erikafritz06]

That’s a big reason I hate sm they don’t let their idols apologize, chenle tried to apologize more than once but sm kept deleting his apology, taeyong apologized on live once and before uploading the replay they cut it out, and there have been many other sm artists that have had their apology deleted. The best they can do is delete the post if it was on their acc (like tiktok, insta, etc.) or wait till it blows over if it was in a comeback Though some of them don’t seem to learn from their mistakes if it was something they personally did and continue to do, that isn’t something I can really “defend”

[@ultymateslayong6758]

I don't understand that what's so wrong about apologizing? Like what's the worst that could happen?

[@Erikafritz06]

@@ultymateslayong6758 me neither, I don’t get why sm won’t let their idols apologize when it would save them a lot of trouble-

[@ultymateslayong6758]

@@Erikafritz06 exactly. At least it would clear things up and their intentions too. People wouldn't think so negatively about them the way they do because of these. They're not even allowed to speak up or show that they acknowledge it bruh 🙄 I got really pissed off when they cut out the part where Taeyong tried to acknowledge that he made a mistake. Like what the f*ck!!! But I didn't know that chenle did too, can you tell me where did he apologize?

[@Erikafritz06]

@@ultymateslayong6758 I heard about chenle apologizing but it getting deleted, I tried to find it but I couldn’t really but it kind of makes sense. Sm probably deleted it before anyone could really screen record it :/

[@ultymateslayong6758]

@@Erikafritz06 another person in the comments told me just now that it was on weibo. But SM deleted it 🙄

[@sharece1490]

did she lie tho, did she lie? You're 100% true it's sad how these fans will turn their back on their own community for some idol 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@yoongisballs234]

girl this vid needs to go viral because there r so many people that don’t understand thus

[@tiramiisu0]

girl you have no idea how quickly i hit the subscribe button, you did such an amazing job at explaining every 👏 topic 👏 you 👏 covered 👏. I’m not black, so it’s always refreshing to see the perspective of black creators and black k-pop fans who are rightfully able to speak up about the appropriation of their own culture. although i’ll never truly understand how you feel about these situations (especially since it’s not my culture being appropriated), i think it really helps me to develop a better understanding of this topic, and this understanding continues to grow every day. thank you, thank you, thank you 💜 (also, i couldn’t help but mention this, your hair is sooo beautiful 🥺)

[@monie9463]

Thank you soo much🥺💜Your kind words made my day. Thank you for taking time out of your day to learn about others.

[@tiramiisu0]

@@monie9463 no problem!

[@scarletjuju2233]

I don't get it why they don't inform themselves about other cultures. It's not hard to google it. It's honestly just lazy and the fans trying to make excuses like the idols didn't know it better etc. No they are not kids they can read! The problem is they don't care! That's all.

[@uuunnn8087]

Well said!! I knew most of these already but some of them like the artist getting paid a measly 60 was shocking. However with the locs situation I don’t think they have the power to choose whether or not they have to wear it, as their stylists make most of those choices. But yes if they could recognize the meaning and cultural appropriation that would speak volumes. Maybe the stylists should be held accountable as well or whoever makes that decision. SM needs to wake up fr. Same with Blackpink and any other time an idol wore locs. (For the most part) I don’t know if they have much of a choice as it’s more of the company’s power. Some investigations need to be made lolol.

[@samaralovegoodblack5775]

I'm not black, but when I discovered those things my heart was broken anyway. I know they're human as me, but what if people ask you "why do still like them?" I couldn't handle it...

[@monie9463]

I can understand this is a very tough conversation but please be respectful in my comments. It’s ok to not have the same thoughts but if you want to converse in my comments please have respect for me and others. Thank you all for the support.

[@Ash2theB]

I'm trying to find a video of Seventeen members allegedly saying the N-word. Apparently it missed heard lyrics from a Monsta X song so unless I hear the original or any receipts for that I'm going to have to disagree with that claim.

[@monie9463]

Thank you so much for informing me it was a genuine mistake. I saw the video down my timeline around the time I filmed this video and it sound like they said it but after doing more research I found out that they didn’t. I will pin a comment to inform people that they didn’t. Once again I’m genuinely sorry.

[@suki-ny5xt]

i used to defend hwasa for wearing her “sauna look” but looking back at her past actions i totally regret it lol. u spoke nothing but facts boo, period.

[@biclexual]

People said she wore a nigerian outfit to scare people eventhough it WAS a typical Korean fancy sauna look though.. Despite being given the n-word to sing back in 2015 by Melon and her reading the English lyrics in Hangul, doing blackface in 2017 and wearing a durag in 2019 advertised for all races by Rihanna, she hasn't had any "past actions". She has definitely done some problematic stuff, especially when the whole group did blackface, but the things I see made up about Hwasa is really insane. Deeefinitely call them out for what they did, but make sure your info is correct bc there's more lies than truth out there.

[@yesno8785]

Me too. I will defend her with the sauna look thing a bit, since it wasn't african clothing, but I used to also defend her for other things too. I won't anymore, as I now realized Korean idols aren't as ignorant and unaware of these things as they are made out to be.

[@Lai.dentistry]

Commenting for the algorithm hopefully this video pushes out to a lot of ppl ✊

[@agustv4968]

The “but namjoon” excuse is so annoying.

[@isuckbludd]

the things that they do literally make me sick to my stomach

[@jessicapage0203]

So non people can’t have no type of braids in their hair is that what you’re saying can you please educate me if I’m Wong?! And I do agree that Sm really need to start paying the songwriter more than $60 for the song or the song writer should take the song back.

[@monie9463]

Thank you for being open to learning about my culture!! So there are hairstyles called box braids and cornrows that are for black people. Non black people can braid their REAL hair!! But when it comes to adding in pieces and trying to re name our hairstyles that’s totally not ok!

[@jessicapage0203]

Monie you’re absolutely welcome thank you for educating me. And I agree these idols I feel like they are doing it on purpose to or they’re just not educating their self before they do something. Like you said it’s 2020 this stuff should not be happening and hopefully in the future it will not happen again for any idol or any group. And I know I really don’t have much to say as a white woman. I do agree with you and I feel like no matter what I feel like they should hold accountable for their actions if they haven’t apologize and change. I hope you have a great day or whatever time it is for you thank you for sharing this video with us and hopefully other people and other raise can see how bad culture appropriation truly is and how rude and disrespectful it truly is. Thank you again 😊

[@monie9463]

Thank you sm again!! I hope you have a wonderful day/night💗

[@frejapoulsen7846]

“Non people” lmao, love that

[@rayhana.b5140]

thank you you did a great job (I'm a black kpop fan too) Actually is there a group who did not do any CA or racists things? I'm truly tired of this....

[@aathira741]

I'm not sure... But I would say dreamcatcher

[@rayhana.b5140]

@@aathira741 I actually do stan them and seventeen too

[@spheksophobiaurinal]

blackpink is very non problematic, the only thing i know is that Lisa used box braid in a mv

[@spheksophobiaurinal]

gfriend too

[@aathira741]

@@spheksophobiaurinal I'm extremely sorry to say this... But they are not unproblematic. They appropriated Indian culture a lot of times. And yes I can talk about this because I am Indian

[@Taytaybugz]

$66? Oh hell no.

[@jessicafoley1435]

This deserves more attention

[@mikaylamarspark5680]

You're speaking nothing but FACTS!! This is exactly why I don't stan most groups from SM and I don't subscribe to them. However, I will say in A.C.E.'s defense of Kim Byeongkwan, his braids were because he was Harley Quinn and another member, WOW, was The Joker. He honestly wasn't trying to do cultural appropriation. If I'm wrong please correct me.

[@PalianaV]

Other than that love you hunny and hope this vid blows up 😁

[@monie9463]

Abrianna Virgo love you too!! And thank you sooo much!!

[@luv5776]

In the case of (G) I-DLE, a Korean fan (who is friends with Shuhua's sister, one of the group members); the family of the members found out about the incident, in fact they all did, and from that event all the members were better educated. Many people complained to them for not apologizing (and they are right), but the girl who spoke to Shuhua's sister said that they couldn't do anything; since CUBE ((G) I-DLE's company) prohibited them from saying anything about the matter and the company could even sue them if they said something, or even give them a kind of "punishment". After that incident, the members and especially Soyeon; They looked very sad and sorry in the programs that appeared, their only way of indirectly apologizing was saying; "Thank you for supporting us, I will work hard to be a better person", as they could not apologize because of their company. I'm not trying to excuse myself, but I just wanted you to know the truth about the other side of the coin. ♡♡♡

[@robertturnage8696]

It's time for black people all over the world to tighten up their culture

[@jannahkurd2443]

Can I ask politely why is it wrong to have braids like just why? Is that gonna heat your feeling and why I am not black but when I was like 10 yo my mom, a friend braided my hair and she is black and myy friend is black but I don't know why is that heart ur feeling can u explain to me guys?

[@drugchildsamuel]

there literally shouldn’t be a problem with braids

[@notbadbutnotgood8627]

Namjoon was young, young to barely know this staff, just like me, even if most of my family members and ppls around me are black, i used to be racist WITHOUT knowing.. I just loved how black ppl look how their hairstyle are pretty, i'm 18 y.o and i just knew that i was doing what racist ppl do...

[@someonecool110]

@ARMYs ARE THE BEST FAN-family-DOM IN THE WORLD Agree and thank you for sharing, but some still think RM is racist for not saying SORRY like he did it in a different way. It's not the same but he did with his honestly even apologies it in his vlive. But still many still think about his past too much. Really making me felt bad for RM even more. He did surffer alot even share it in his songs but hopefully life goes on like BTS said ✊️😢💜💜💜💜💜💜💜. Stay safe and healthy. I Purple You😌💜

[@JamesSmith-by3qy]

The Kpop have finally done it there this time! The Kpop finally got itself cancelled! Some South Koreans angered Filipinos with their racism and the Filipinos just decided to cancel Korea!

[@reallifewith_Ari]

I know how bts were before and to be honest I don’t blame them because at the time they weren’t taught about black culture and they always thought it was okay for some of them to do what they do... but I realized that they changed and don’t say those kind of racial things they used to...they respect black people like come on they are trying to prove that but people just bring up their past...bts is one KPOP group I genuinely love...plus just because some of the fans tend to degrade black fans, doesn’t mean it’s the artists’ fault 💁🏾‍♀️ so please I understand you’re trying to inform others but at the same time don’t bring up a group’s past... I’m saying this as a black person myself

[@monie9463]

I don’t want to come off like I was trying to bring these groups down. I was trying to bring awareness of this issue since most of these issues are recent.

[@reallifewith_Ari]

Yeah I understand it’s important to educate people... it’s just that lately lots of channels bash bts over their past to the point it really annoys me since they ain’t ignorant anymore plus they genuinely love black artists and their music... they even recommend some of their music to us that which we never knew were there...sorry also if I came off as being rude or attacking you 😊

[@monie9463]

@@reallifewith_Ari it’s ok!!

[@delisyus]

I understand that learning is a process and true change happens over time. However, Jhope’s cornrows controversy happened just last year. Obviously, whatever happened to Namjoon all those years ago still hasn’t taught them (the group) and their company the lesson. Meaning, BTS is still making mistakes. With the biggest fandom out there, of course they should be called out when they make those mistakes. ARMY shouldn’t get upset that they’re being called out especially when those people calling those Kpop celebs out aren’t invoking hate, just pointing out why such things are wrong and pleading for change (from both artists and their fandoms). I love BTS and truly believe they, for the most part, care about people. It’s just that, we all have to stop thinking something is cool or funny when it is actually hurtful and triggering. We all need to go past prejudice and stereotypes and double-standards. With idols having a lot of influence, we should expect more responsibility and accountability. That’s just that.

[@monie9463]

@@delisyus Jhope didn’t wear cornrows last year though?

[@tabassumkhan8693]

Everyone wants to be black until it actually comes to being black yk

[@siyanneabraham]

I was just getting into some Kpop groups and then this video and another similar popped up and *sigh* black people can’t get a break

[@an.6665]

Hi!!! I'm a latina army. I don't support anyother group but I want to know what do you think about the groups that for example don't have control on their looks.

[@nhhhjtlotvl]

but sometimes idols don't decide what they wear ;( Most of the time in the MV It is because of the stylists, I am not defending them, they should educate themselves

[@nohomo-pp5yd]

If someone can translate these types of videos into Korean, that would be great!

[@aboutshenother]

chenle did apologise but it got taken down multiple times ://

[@ultymateslayong6758]

May I know on which platform did he apologize?

[@aboutshenother]

@@ultymateslayong6758 weibo

[@ultymateslayong6758]

@@aboutshenother thnx

[@marionicolasmartin]

i understand where you’re coming from but in like lisa’s or hongjoong’s case i don’t think it’s them. they most likely didn’t choose to wear them, it’s probably someone in the styling team. i don’t see it as their fault for now as we don’t know who chose their hairstyle and as most companies don’t let idols dress themselves for the most part i think it’s most likely the stylist.

[@aathira741]

But I love how KQ has apologized really well for the CA and removed the CA part in MV.

[@victoriadavis8596]

something I find most crazy😮 about this video that they literally planned how they were going to culturally appropriate a group of people🙄 like what they just said oh my God yeah yeah let's do this!!🙄🙄🙄

[@an.6665]

Other point, there's many groups that wore braids but littles ones or in a very small quantity. What happens with them? Like in TikTok many people use this type of braids but I never see them with reclaims and then J-Hope in chicken noodle soup yes and idk

[@monie9463]

Jhope didn’t wear braids it was gel twist and most people didn’t find it offensive since it was just twist hair with gel and i dont think the size of the braids make a difference

[@an.6665]

@@monie9463 I'm from Argentina, but my father and his family is from Perú (Both countries are in Latinoamerica). There, my family taught me to use braids because of the Andino culture (You can search it) and all my life I used it. I don't know if this can offend black people because our braids are 2 larges and all this time I thought the size or quantity make a difference. The second point is about women who use it for their products (crafts) and sell it, in a historical way the colonizers braided the hair for many punishment so... What do you think about.

[@JamesSmith-by3qy]

Well Kpop has finally got itself cancelled this time! Some South Koreans angered Filipinos with their racism and the Filipinos just decided to cancel Korea!

[@jaylalala]

Periodt Simoneee

[@israalee8780]

Why do pple wanna be black like WTF .BTW who are BTS nd why r they trying to look black???My hairstyle is my ancestral heritage so if anyone put it nd try to rename it that's cultural appropriation.They r so lucky they r not in Africa.I mean it coz here in Africa there is museums that shows de long history of braids nd dreadlocks.Thank God I don't know who they r .BTW am from 🇰🇪#2020.Love ur confidence.Can I call u #CEO Of Truth

[@monie9463]

Israa Lee it’s not bts thats trying to look black and thank you soo much for your compliments!! And yes i think alot of people should definitely educate themselves on black culture

[@abdurrahman7458]

BTS isn't trying to look black..........

[@bezawitmamuye5210]

as a person living in Africa i have never heard of people being called out for cultural appropriation not even for saying the N word nobody really cares about that here but we have other racist words that could even land you in jail

[@katsu2014]

@@abdurrahman7458 BACK THEN THEY WERE TF. LOOK AT THE 2013 ERA IDIOT

[@abdurrahman7458]

@@katsu2014 Then stuck in the past,idiot !!

[@babydiamond9547]

So I have a question for you are you still a BLACKPINK fan and BTS fan or have you left the fandom

[@dasspaseka5440]

Okay but one thing I don't get is why people bashed Namjoon for having black hair like seriously I am black and I see nothing bad like many black people have white people hair but that is not racist seriously people need to chill 😒 Many black people have weave hairstyles but that is not racist seriously 😤

[@monie9463]

Straight hair is not tied to a culture.... Black hairstyles are so ofc it wouldnt be offensive for black people to wear “white” people hair. Also can you not invalidate other black people for being upset about idols doing Culture appropriation. It’s insensitive and tone deaf. Thanks.

[@theumlungu]

Before Africa was colonized, or even put on the map, Africans used their hair to show status and which tribe they were from by adding beads, and other artistic accessories. When they were sold as slaves, they had their heads shaved and stripped them of their identities, homes & families. Then further down the line in history (after slavery ended and white people didn't own black people anymore), black people were forced to have "white hair" bc natural hair was seen as "untidy" and "ugly" and they wouldn't be given any opportunities if they didn't conform to white standards (which they struggled to have at all). I don't think the actual act of doing braids and such is the harmful part. It's the monopolisation of black hairstyles and not knowing the struggles black people had to go through to be able to let their hair out naturally and to express themselves with their hair. I mean, the first black hair care product was only around in 1905 and even then it wasn't sold on shelves at stores. Besides, most black hairstyles damage non-black hair so why are they trying something that isn't made for them? We have been fortunate enough to have hairstyles for our hair throughout history.

[@roguewizard6257]

under rated video

[@hilaholo6822]

I'm sorry if I offend you or other black people. I was really confused because I uneducated with CA things... I know black face, mocking people accent and n-word was racist. But I'm a bit confused with CA, can you please explain it to me further? So, other races can't use black people hairstyle right? Please tell me if I'm wrong or not :( English is my 3rd language, so I'm so sorry if my english isn't that good :(

[@monie9463]

You don’t have to apologize but basically like I explained in the video black people were stripped of everything due to slavery including their real culture. We had to create a whole new culture and by wearing these hairstyles it is like stealing out culture and taking things from us again.

[@hilaholo6822]

@@monie9463 ahhhhh what if they wear it but credited it to black people? Like if someone using 'batik' who was originally from my country, we would be happy And thank you so much for replying to me in nice way, I'm so sorry if once again I was offend you :(

[@fellowjoemalian6905]

@@marieresendiz4739 braids from black people's culture & normal french braids kinda stuff is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy different. Absolutely different. Don't play dumb & acknowledge the truth.

[@fellowjoemalian6905]

@@hilaholo6822 that's not the point. The problem is they want to look black but not wanna BE black.

[@hilaholo6822]

@@fellowjoemalian6905 huh? What do you mean? We can't change our race tho?

[@asmaislam7440]

But your. not black your have tan skin tone

[@PalianaV]

Just curious, how does that make sense? She would have to be literally the color black to voice her opinion?

[@asmaislam7440]

@@PalianaV didn't mean it negatively ☺️

[@PalianaV]

@@asmaislam7440 sure, but im still unsure of what you meant with your comment...

[@Fatima-zz7qc]

w.....hat

[@ihatepancakes272]

Also how u get your hair like that 🥺🥺🥺🥺 what products did you use??

[@monie9463]

Thank you smm 🥺I use gliss shampoo and conditioner (ultra moisture) and cantu coconut curling cream after im done washing!

[@army4chair345]

@@monie9463 cantu is bae