Being A Real Phony-Baloney

[@kellyannr4171]

Plaintiff’s beauty is matched only by her intellect. She’s so poised and well spoken. We need more of her!

[@mysticalmuse333]

What a beautiful comment ❤

[@RandyRandolph-p4m]

Beautiful and intelligent isn't something I'm seeing

[@kellyannr4171]

@@RandyRandolph-p4m that’s perfectly fine. You don’t need to. It neither adds nor subtracts from my opinion or this beautiful woman’s attributes.

[@JamieBihhhh]

​@@kellyannr4171girl don't mind them there trollin

[@laquasiacherry-mack2542]

The plaintiff needs to see the strength in herself that the judge sees and the defendant tried to take credit for😂 she is a force to be reckoned with. I wish her much success!

[@annabanana730]

She looks fabulous but what she says makes no damn sense. Actually, none of them sound very smart. As a marketing student, listening to them talk was so cringy.

[@annabanana730]

That said, the white folks come off as overly confident and arrogant. I wouldn't hire them for shit. At least the plaintiff has class.

[@bankait_rex1860]

BS, as a business person myself, you have to learn to pay for services that ask for, and if you want something to be done in specific way them put a plan in place, ones someone's does a job you pay them not try to get the job for free like she is doing, she will learn that the hard way in business ones you burns a few bridges.

[@catalinalongoria2514]

She's after the free government grant money....that's it!!! A fast talker, wheeler dealer....nothing new here folks.

[@jsims1617]

Plaintiffs instructions: "I want stats and stuff". Yeah,ok.

[@britta3]

I love that the plaintiff was humble enough to admit the man was good at what he did and that he was “a pro”, I like her

[@augustmoon9973]

I work for a bariatric surgeon and I feel the plaintiff's services would be super beneficial for women during the weight loss surgery process, and it likely would have been beneficial to her overall success had she paid the defendants for marketing research, similar to online surveys for people in the market for bariatric surgery, to join weight loss centers, or even gyms. In this case they just didn't seem to be on the same page.

[@meekthegreek1623]

I was thinking she'd also be good for those who go through cancer treatment. Who I was and who I am now is quite different, lost 30 lbs, hair curly and gray, instead of long and brunette with highlights, had a mascetomy as well. Could use help in getting back to feeling more normal, if that's possible.

[@BlessedToBeSaved333]

@@meekthegreek1623 ❤️

[@humaneleaguelancPA]

@@meekthegreek1623 God Bless you!

[@augustmoon9973]

@@meekthegreek1623 Absolutely, Great point! Everyone that has been through what you have deserves a person to advocate for them! 💜

[@Classyslimes]

Lmao 😂

[@boriqua1222]

Great case! The plaintiff was able to recover some of her funds because she was well prepared and clear in conveying her message. The moral of the story here is, specificity is key!

[@NastyNate707]

I do appreciate that they both left with a compliment or acknowledgment of the others skill/professionalism.

[@PrettiiKymmii]

Yes! Finally the world gets to see how vague marketing can be. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jeremycrandall2899]

Yeah, this was definitely a pretty unusual case for “The People’s Court” or “Judge Judy”. Probably more like something you might see in actual small claims court, I’m guessing.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Perhaps more "nuanced"

[@twiix29]

lmaooooo trueeeee when i was studying marketing for undergrad the language is very vague but the person who speaks understands 😭

[@lmfaoidgaflife]

I love the mutual respect that the plaintiff & the defendant had at the end. Business is business not personal.

[@jenniferbayarea5748]

Yessss we need more business people like this

[@alexyapropes2436]

Not with them looking like she was the Mrs during the case

[@antoniamarie6930]

It’s pretty clear to me that the plaintiff’s purpose in hiring the defendant was to break out of the “plus size only” market and also assist with who are going through a weight loss transition feel more comfortable and confident about themselves. I do not believe her idea was articulated and documented in its entirety.

[@psichliebemilch]

Everyone in the case is very well spoken. It is a nice change of pace

[@KhrysPKreme]

Judgment was solely because she provided market research they failed to do. Judge scratching her head in frustration and saying “so you can do it yourself “is also interesting. Love when evidence shuts the judge down.

[@NubianP6]

@Marilyn Willett I didn’t see her question the judge’s level of education, nor her intelligence. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@tracybest5790]

Classy case with 2 PROFESSIONALs. well done.

[@MsSparklesNGlitter]

The more she talked the less I understood what her whole business and plan was about. In business the more simple the better. That way people know exactly, very quickly what you're about.

[@Maqqin]

Then you’re just as slow as the defendants because I knew exactly what she meant.

[@capri468]

That’s just how corporate America talks

[@leir2005]

@@Maqqin Looks like you’re in the minority ma’am, not to mention wrong for questioning someone’s mental capacity. Majority of us didn’t get exactly what it was she wanted him to do

[@kimberlyadorno280]

What I think I understood from what she said is she's an image consultant? Or trying to get into that field, with an emphasis on plus size women going through weight loss surgery?

[@michaelbrandon1222]

Exactly. She just used a bunch of filler words to make it sound more important than it actually is. It's all hot air and fluff.

[@justletitbe2580]

I think the judge was very confused for a moment there , BUT ! Landed a good ruling.

[@mac-10londonderry59]

She is a prime example of Black Excellence!!

[@LLStark]

👍🏽

[@jenniferbayarea5748]

Yes !!! Ooof I could listen to her speak

[@BrooksDunn]

And then there is this…. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d32nd5WAbLikqtU

[@CandidLy1]

She’s female excellence for any race, she’s amazing! Would love to see this lady in action 👍

[@CassandraReneeXOXO]

Indeed she is….I love it!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@moebetta414]

Yes sis!! She represented us well!! GirlGang

[@3LWSTAN]

Everybody outside was out of line 😆😆😆

[@Lacashab]

I feel cross eyed listening to this lol. I really don’t understand what she is talking about.. I hear a whole lot of talking.. I think she is just mad she thought it was going to be more than what it was

[@payableondeath9091]

I have worked with people like this and if your objectives aren't clear and direct what you end up with is a clusterF💥Ck

[@syrsknight]

Yeah, its too vague. However, they are respecting wishes and could be vague because of that. I think she wanted a report on a more specific thing, but only got a vague one. As they both understood differently on what was wanted.

[@BobBlumenfeld]

The high point of this case was when the plaintiff said she gets stage fright in front of a camera and the judge couldn't believe it.

[@Nevaeh1]

SWOT analysis is a commonly used business term, especially in strategic planning.

[@Vanessa_Martinez]

Right I can’t believe she didn’t know that.

[@payableondeath9091]

basically data mining

[@barbarapaton4005]

Even the defendant called the plaintiff a pro… she came across as a well -educated and intelligent woman. Wish her well.

[@Lanie-sl9ne]

She's an intelligent woman but she's talking in circles not making any sense to anyone but herself.

[@waynedexter]

Yeah, it’s like she’s trying to prove how intelligent she is. She probably would’ve came across even more intelligent if she used half the amount of verbiage and less circular logic

[@Maqqin]

Y’all are just slow. I followed & understood everything she said & meant.

[@waynedexter]

…and you’re just uncouth 🤨

[@Maqqin]

@@waynedexter You’re slow & I’m uncouth. The end.

[@superduperkid3143]

@@Maqqin who are you trying to convince ? How many comments do you need to tell people they're slow and you understood? You really really need that validation on youtube huh?

[@stephenbanks5952]

This one went completely over my head. I could not understand what she expected so I cannot comment on whether they delivered or not. It did sound like they were just regurgitating information in different formats but I cannot be sure. The original draft was 3 pages. That sounds poor for the results of a 3 month contract. But I really should not be judging as I didn't understand the requirements.

[@David-cc8xe]

But still, you commented

[@shalleemornes-joanah5297]

@Stephen Banks. Exactly what I was thinking. Thank you for your comment.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

I'll tell you exactly whats going on. She wanted some of her free money from the govt back from the people she hired when they turned in a report that said there wasn't an upside to her "business model". She needs justifications to keep getting money from the govt.

[@daniellesimone7939]

​@@michaelbrandon1222 what makes you think her grant was from the government? You can get grants from anyone tf

[@michaelbrandon1222]

​@@daniellesimone7939 because only the govt will give someone a grant based on their skin color and not track record, skill or ideas which this chick clearly doesn't have tf 😂

[@projectionv.accountability1010]

She sounds like someone who has meetings to plan meetings, and emails to follow up on the meetings.

[@Kat-bu3bn]

🤣

[@payableondeath9091]

OMG TOTALLY 💀🤣

[@katrinawhite5574]

Lmfao 😂🤣

[@riicababy]

🤣🤣🤣

[@moniqueengleman873]

She sounds very intelligent. I understand what she wanted, but did not get.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

Keyword "sounds" intelligent. She's not actually intelligent. The skill to convey your thoughts with simplicity and brevity is the sign of intelligence, not with convoluted long windedness.

[@moniqueengleman873]

@@michaelbrandon1222 We humans have a tendency to convolute some things in our lives. I like to call it Pretzel Logic

[@lisettegilliam]

Sis was on point! Intelligent , beautiful, and knew her sh...t! I need to get her business info...

[@David-cc8xe]

What for? What are you going to do with that?

[@lisettegilliam]

@@David-cc8xe I would like to find out how her business serves Plus Size Women, begore and after bariatric surgery? Is that ok with you?

[@David-cc8xe]

Sure but in what purpose? What do you do that you need that for your business?

[@lisettegilliam]

@@David-cc8xe I am a plus size woman who is in the process of having bariatric surgery, would like to know what her business does for women who have this surgery? Does she offer after care programs or information on bariatric?

[@David-cc8xe]

Just one question, are you really going to follow through with getting her info? And you know that this case is really old? Her business may not even exist anymore

[@bubblezrus6680]

“Is bring called plus size a complement?” Me being big: No it’s okay. Proceeds to ask skinny people:.....

[@graduatge105]

😂😂 exactly.

[@mamathemeat]

I’m sorry is he supposed to say “hey your fat, what do you like to be called?” Lol yeah cuz that would go smoothly

[@bubblezrus6680]

@@mamathemeat Why do people think being fat is a characteristic? Lool

[@cherryloid1062]

Plaintiff: I have stage fright Judge: You do naaaaaht That was a cute exchange

[@michaelbrandon1222]

She definitely has a business degree, saying a whole bunch of words without saying anything 🤣

[@Cherrihndrxx]

Lol fr. I still don’t know what she do😩

[@Golddust_Goddess]

@@Cherrihndrxx girl, 🤣🤣🤣🤣same

[@vacheriedevacherie1959]

$5000 for a marketing research and plan is cheap, I’ve never seen one below 30k. You pay for what you get. They are not going to put 200 man hours for $5k.

[@merc80ss]

I understood her completely from beginning to end. This was not gibberish or talking in circles. It was a business agreement that did not have the key components listed. Too broad of a scope so that now when the judge is trying to provide her ruling, she can’t clearly state what was needed. I deal with business proposals and project timelines on the daily. It is very important to detail the business plan with milestones met and consistently keep the client involved and make adjustments as needed. I feel the defendant’s team were not experienced enough for the task at hand and should have not taken the job. Glad the plaintiff got some money back.

[@legatoblues13]

I agree. It was a very linear delivery. She knew what they wanted, and they couldn't deliver. She told them in the second email it wasn't progressing.

[@Maqqin]

Exactly! All the people on this thread who’s saying she’s not making sense are just as slow as the defendants.

[@jehrardmartin4340]

The reason they both were complimenting each other at the end should not go unnoticed. The plaintiff kept the scope board on purpose. Leaving that open ended level of deliverables allowed her to use the market research and not pay for it. The defendant recognized game and said, "damn good job". Smooth talker.

[@a.konadu4010]

Very articulate lady.

[@feralproud472]

As an applied researcher, I personally would not be able to sign her contract because it does not make any sense 😅🤦🏽‍♀️

[@flo-dd5sw]

Maybe, you are inferior to her intellectual expectation...

[@rebeccagray986]

Extremely well spoken and apparently intelligent.

[@robertsabella7298]

The plaintiff doesn't need speaking lessons. She has the ability to speak coherently and she has a powerful voice. The defendant didn't put her there.

[@caramama1731]

At least they were still giving respect even after the case. It's sad families and friends just tarnish any relationship afterward

[@jenniehughes6927]

She should create clothes that you can adjust as you lose weight and they still look good and fit well. Like wraparound style .

[@Kat-bu3bn]

Omg I love a good wrap around dress. I think those look great on pretty much any figure and are very flattering.

[@keeshabrown7353]

Yes! I don't consider myself a shopper at all (I see it as a tedious job), yet I love the idea of a great wrap-around dress. Super easy, adjustable, flowy and seems to last forever.

[@regisfilia]

Interesting case. The plaintiff is beautiful, intelligent and professional but is a bit on the vanguard of something, really creating a niche that doesn't currently exist. Most people aren't going to understand her vision for it as much as she does herself!

[@cherryloid1062]

I feel like she has high standards that they just didn't meet, doesn't mean they didn't do their job, it just wasn't to her standards. He said "I didn't feel I got to express my case" and from what was shown I somewhat agree (though TV shows do cut parts out so maybe they only showed a majority if the plaintiffs side but did also speak properly with the defendant, it just wasn't shown.) I really didn't like that he stated at the end that she is where she is (regarding her public speaking) because of him. I like that he said he was proud of her but I felt she held herself well and he shouldn't be trying to take credit for her strength and confidence in the court room, sure maybe his course helped her but at the end of the day she did it because she worked to have that knowledge and confidence in order to present a rational, factual case. He shouldn't be patting himself on the back for that, when it's not anything to do with him

[@terrim.9002]

Lmao i thought he called him “Lou Da Pitbull”

[@Laura-tp8wz]

The plaintiff is beautiful and classy. 👗

[@alvarussell2728]

This was good and judge the lady is a great speaker

[@Stevechodhu]

The plaintiff is certainly not beautiful and from what she said I can definitely determine she is also a hustler who didn’t want to pay for anything at all! These kind of women think the world revolves around them and so they feel entitled to free services! What a joke

[@karajohnson2184]

She's beautiful and she knows how to dress for her size

[@Kat-bu3bn]

And did you see her legs? Long and gorgeous. Very pretty lady.

[@payableondeath9091]

indeed very classy & I like how she covers up

[@lionelluva]

Agree, she's very pretty

[@prairierider7569]

This is business case study, I loved it in college business!

[@peekaboots01]

Very good defendant. Some people always want their money back.

[@Ailenna]

I understand the plaintiff and know what she is trying to accomplish. That being said image consulting sold to new customers in transition stages in not easy at all. Remember most people buy things they need. Everything that is not a necessity becomes a luxury. I can her succeeding in other markets, outside of healthcare.

[@shanimorrison8730]

When they were saying that plus size is mean and stuff ....I mean the people outside... I am a bigger girl and I'd rather be called plus size than anything else plus size is a respectable name for it.. the plaintiff is so well spoken and respects herself.. shes amazing

[@Vanessa_Martinez]

What made her win the case. Was his doing he klled it when he said, “ ppl who are looking to loosing weight and ppl who are going into Bariatric surgery isn’t looking for plus size clothing”…. See that was the nail in his coffin. if he would’ve simply told that message/Analyzation to her she wouldn’t won.

[@tamarafindlay6296]

When the judge makes the pun at 11:46. Or maybe it's just me😂🤷‍♀️🙋‍♀️

[@FatimahD444]

She's too smart for her own damn good even Judge M. Didn't know wtf she was talking about lol pretty though

[@ct6410]

This is not smart. You can tell because she doesn’t understand the value of qualitative study vs. quantitative study and she just prints out a ream of studies on obesity, which are not at all targeted to what she was looking for. This is, “I googled something and I’m trying to describe this thing I don’t actually understand, which is why I’m talking in circles without even realizing it.” It’s what most of y’all sound like to those of us who actually attended law school.

[@ChroniclesofaRunawayBride]

Hearing not plus-sized women saying being called plus-sized is degrading and offensive only confirms everything I believed about our society and how it views women's bodies. But tbf, this was probably filmed 4-5 years ago, and the conversation has evolved quite a bit since then.

[@bongoikno4994]

Plus size isn't something that has to even exist very very few people have thyroid or any other health issues its just bad eating habits whether it to much meat or to much starch or to much junk snacks or to many late nights meals..etc but basically peoples bodies are based on their own lifestyle its not caused at birth so its no reason to be sensitive about women's body cuz a fat guy is a fat guy so women get no special treatment they can fix their body if they feel away about it ...

[@questioneverything8572]

SJW fat activism is cringe

[@magicworld3242]

I can't believe the defendant, would take credit for how well the plaintiff spoke. Wht people love taking credit, for something they had nothing to do with.

[@Love_1562]

That's the Truth!!!

[@cookieee143]

That part .

[@kiddozoo]

She is not a clear communicator and did not express finite expectations. He should have spotted this a mile away and brought measurable specifics to the contract.

[@konige-tochteru.9295]

This case is so vague.. i don't think she needed them at all

[@David-R.]

I respect her a lot for still admitting he's a pro. She's a fair person.

[@HighMaintenanceMinimalist]

It's really bothering me that thin people think calling a plus sized person "plus size" is offensive or mean when it's literally what they call themselves. Most plus sized people just want to be acknowledged and included.

[@lescobrandon9693]

Fat.

[@jasminemorales5964]

I think she wasn’t satisfied bc there wasn’t really a job to do…. Like what were they hired to do? She should have just put out surveys on social media or something to see peoples responses.

[@ct6410]

No, there was actually a job there. She just doesn’t have the background in empirical study to understand qualitative vs. quantitative.

[@mzdeelife5429]

P

[@TopherGrant]

Market research is a billion dollar industry. Nearly every company large or small work with analysts to gain insight on your target demographic, local economy, projections on traffic flow, growth potential, etc.

[@jasminemorales5964]

@@TopherGrant no I get that but she specifically sounds a bit unsure of what she’s looking for or what her desired out come really was, because they did give her feedback but it just wasn’t what she wanted

[@TopherGrant]

@@jasminemorales5964 ohhhhh. Ok. You're right!

[@alij6940]

Working in an office of bariatrics. Her buisness will not flourish there. We have a very very built support system for these individuals. Before surgery even happens. I think she was just annoyed that there was no buisness for her there and ahe got mad.

[@DancewithAbena]

I enjoy such cases very interestingand informative. Rather than " Your dog bite my dog"

[@firstladypie760]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣I see you

[@Brittanysian]

I love her natural hair

[@josephwolosz2522]

"Things are growing here." Well...yeah,it's the plus size business.

[@debrahill2272]

I was totally confused as to what should have been done .😮😗🤔This was way over my scope of comprehension.

[@righttoouropinionthanks4710]

lol!!!!! Oh my!! Love the way these two ladies really trying to show the audience how “smart” they both are when JM didn’t even know the term “strategic development”!!! lol!! (But loved the way she takes off her glasses only to put them back on a second later (guess she thought she looked smarter with them on??) lol!!! Sorry, I know she’s a judge, but some of the questions she asks people makes me wonder how she made it to “Judge”??

[@laquasiacherry-mack2542]

Her business provides a very necessary service but the judge is right, the contract was waaaay too broad. The defendants didn’t really do the work she wanted but they did abide by the contract.

[@iratepeople455]

What was the service her business provides?

[@prairierider7569]

What an excellent and well spoken young lady

[@nicolewashington3011]

She did too much. If you’re having a gastric bypass or sleeve your not trying to buy a plus dress. Just say I do research. Keep simple 🤦🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️.

[@Reallychris_]

You must did not hear the case in its entirety. She said she caters to sizes 6-26 at 8:19. I understand why she specifically wanted to cater to that market. She could offer her services from the beginning of a patient/client surgery/weight loss journey to the end. If anything, she should not have conveyed to the defendant a “plus size” market, but a “weight loss” market instead.

[@Joeh1154]

the Judge said as per the research, "...The plus size market is a growing market." Uh, yea...Then she says, "The service would be a little beefier." I'm dying.

[@krystalhenry5140]

how do you ask skinny women and men do plus size women have a problem w/ being called plus size smh

[@G-PAT]

Well done young lady,well done🤗🌹🌞🦋

[@manthony777]

" The plus size market is a growing market."

[@AreYouHookd]

Plaintiff came with that 🔥🔥🔥. Organized, well spoken and intelligent.

[@allthingssonic]

She deserved better market research than what they ga:e her .But specifics in the contract would not have helped

[@probochronicles3991]

These guys at the end really stoke the fires in their post-judgement interviews, even when the parties are complacent with the outcome....

[@dfa3366]

In a real court case the plaintiff would not have a case. There is no "ruff justice" or partial refund. It is one way or another in small claims.

[@damiencrews7603]

Her whole business model sound like a scam to me

[@michellejessey8654]

She got grant money

[@damiencrews7603]

​@@michellejessey8654 ok?

[@rn6710]

This is one case in which I thought the judge needed to allow the defendants more room to present their case.

[@alinaluna8615]

This case had me bambooozled

[@alex-sv8to]

Should have been dismissed. The contract was vague and the time was spent.

[@redgurl60]

I love her, and wish her great success.

[@ELENAOFFICIAL]

What the plaintiff was really looking for is a public relations campaign plan and not a marketing plan. Marketing plan does the research and studies the market but a PR plan would give a detailed plan on how to execute it

[@miriamkivlehan3498]

I had my own business consultancy for years and undertook many Strategic Plans for small businesses. What the defendant produced does not come remotely close to a three year strategic marketing plan to direct the plaintiff's business. There is an international template for a strategic plan which does not need to be specified in a contract. Quite frankly I think the plaintiff should have been refunded $3,000 as $1,500 would have been more than generous for the defendant's sub standard offering. She should also file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau as this guy is the equivalent of an ambulance chaser cold calling business grant beneficiaries.

[@islandyyt]

This black woman is all that. Smart, beautiful, articulate and elegant.

[@chunkchips4554]

She talks very well in front of a camera she just can't articulate what the heck she's talking about lolol 😂

[@vinceviga]

SWOT Analysis! Did so many of those in college.

[@Damnsaburna]

Obese people wear plus sizes and have bariatric surgery. Why would that be such a stretch lol

[@LLStark]

Doesn't seem like she has stage fright, considering what she just did in front of millions!

[@nativeroscoe64]

I get it. She wanted a full rounded marketing agreement with women of all sizes. Not just Plus-Size women the marketers created.

[@__khadijahhhh]

It’s strange how far we go to normalize obesity. Her business plan was confusing, she should have don’t it herself. The plaintiff has a very specific niche. She is well spoken though

[@__khadijahhhh]

@@cai1593 it doesn’t. But ironically, it seems like my comment affected you much…why is that?

[@__khadijahhhh]

@@cai1593 good! Learn to ask questions for clarity instead of asking questions cus you’re triggered. Good day

[@nikam4167]

The plaintiff is very intelligent and beautiful to say the least.

[@veenalorraine5916]

I’d love to support her company, she ABSOLUTELY overly intelligent

[@francevenezia]

Weight loss is such a BROAD subject.

[@rckkeller9437]

I would buy anything from the plaintiff. She is so articulate and knowledgeable. Love her.

[@Newzladee]

What a well spoken and intelligent black woman, no credit to him! Go lady❤️

[@Lilyrose23]

The judge was fair once again, she is vague in her language and should've hired a lawyer to make sure the contract was as specific as possible so that it had the 5Ws of what she wanted. She wanted them to focus on 1 niche and figure out if she should pursue her business, but they researched broad markets and didn't even include the most important findings. As a communication major, and future lawyer, I like watching court cases and analyzing where the communication went wrong, and it's often because people assume that the other person knows what they mean with X when the other person heard Y.

[@dllms]

i think she is great , she just want someone to lift her up a few levels however she hired someone who is at a lower level

[@rosemarieskellington]

As a plus size lady myself, I don't let that bother me unless I don't know the person

[@72RiviRyda]

When will people learn to stop paying in full up front????

[@justvincenturb]

My head hurts.

[@bobbaloobop]

I loved her response to the smartass, at the conclusion of the case… he asked where would she be if it weren’t for him… she said “Where I am today, without him”. She stands on her own ; educated, beautiful and doubted by ignorant people who she is far ahead of. Go Queen.