Better than Adventure: Minecraft Beta Persisting

[@jonkadelic]

BTA lead dev here - thank you for the glowing review! This is a really well-thought-out and professional video that does a great job telling people about the spirit behind the project. It's great to see creators engaging with BTA and making videos about it, especially ones this good.

[@binguschondo]

thank you so much for your work! i appreciate the kind words about the video, and i can't wait to see where the project goes next :)

[@EvilParagon4]

Does it work with the original Aether 1 mod for back on 1.7.3? That would make this mod the absolute perfect beta experience for me.

[@Haune333]

@@EvilParagon4i believe there is a port of the aether for it

[@EvilParagon4]

@@Haune333 Sweet, sounds like good fun. Anything for Mo' Creatures? I assume not, since even though Mo' Creatures is open source now, it doesn't seem to really be cared about anymore. Though it's such an iconic mod it actually got its primary feature (horses) into the vanilla game eventually. Literally DrZhark made MC's horses.

[@pman56789]

​@@EvilParagon4 The comment that replied to you is wrong, there is currently no port of the Aether to work with BTA. In fact, as of update 1.7.6, BTA is not compatible with any other mods for Beta 1.7.3. However, BTA does have its own small modding community, and a few mods for vanilla b1.7.3 such as Tropicraft HAVE been ported. As I said before though, the Aether hasn't been ported yet, but there is a skylands dimension planned for later BTA versions.

[@cthuluroo]

It’s ok Bingus, you can be a Minecraft channel, we understand

[@binguschondo]

thank you :’)

[@MovedBoxMan]

I think the main problem with modern MC is they will reveal features and then said features end up being released and often don't have any real purpose.

[@bramblifr]

copper

[@user-fx4hp2em8s]

It lost its magic for me whenever they made all the colors dull. The game just doesn't feel as vibrant as it used to

[@biko8341]

​@@user-fx4hp2em8sThe Minecraft legacy version had faded colors but I think there is something wrong I don't think the colors are the main problem

[@DumbArse]

​@@bramblifrWhat do you mean? You can just craft copper golems that can help with automated farms! Oh wait.....

[@Zevox144]

@@bramblifr Depending on what further changes take place, it'll have a place in redstone.. I'm hoping it will, at least.

[@JothB]

Seeing a notification for this literally as I'm playing BTA was incredible. I'm so glad this mod is getting more and more coverage because it genuinely deserves it

[@woozie40]

just had the same happen to me

[@Letseatsomepizza]

5:30, funny thing, at 0:46 in the Minecraft Beta 1.8 Trailer, you can actually see the XP bar saying "Skill Points". They probably recorded the trailer near the end of development but cut the feature because they knew that would be way too strange for Minecraft.

[@evdestroy5304]

It's probably the same thing with a different name.

[@Pen_Slinger]

That's interesting, I wonder if the Enchantment Table was originally going to be skill tree table where we could enhance our stats with each upgrade counting as a level up?

[@DannYIIF]

The take that modern and old minecraft are different experiences is the right one. Modern versions are very 'stuffed' - lots of stuff to to, many adventures to be had, lots of things to run after, lots of big goals to reach. It’s full of extrinsic rewards. Riight up until it very suddenly isn’t. You build, explore, collect, then you kill the dragon, get the wings - and there’s no more rewards and bored out of your skull after you put mending on the wings. It is a _completable_ experience with the option to go endless. Many people, me not excluded, struggle with the 'optionality' of open ended play. I have learned a way to keep my worlds going for a very long time in modern versions - I progress as slowly as I can, and I roleplay as an explorer/builder without a set goal, I have a diary, make maps, I keep a billboard with projects I want to make. I've been on my current hardcore world for over a year now, and I have not been to the nether, I still wear iron armor, and I haven’t enchanted a single thing yet. Retro versions are the opposite - you get a handful of viable building/decoration blocks, capable but not busted toolsets, and zero objectives. You sort of just play. In that setting it feels easier to keep going, as well as it’s easier to restrain yourself from burning out. In the end of the day, I am enjoying both of the minecraft experiences, and I am very glad there’s an easy way to play either.

[@bepkoyt]

The fact that they've included the painted planks is also kinda funny as, if I remember correctly, Mojang wanted to implement them in release 1.7, but they decided to add Acacia and Dark Oak instead But overall interesting video! (And the whole channel also, I've never commented on one of your videos before, but you tell these Minecraft history stories in an interesting way, while I don't really watch other Minecraft content anymore)

[@viniciusgoulart5077]

Mojang had to choose between adding different wood types or adding colored planks. BTA chose both lol

[@ricedanan]

I think chose not to after realizing they would need to also add slabs and stairs for each colored planks which would rapidly fill up the limited Block and Item IDs. The Block and Item ID limit was rectified in 1.13's Flattening but in exchange the performance tanked into the depths of Hell.

[@SaishoVibes]

@@ricedanan 1.15 and 1.20 have been surprisingly good performance updates

[@SnrubSource]

Yeah, imo Mojang made a big mistake by tying wood color to wood types but it's super convenient for them since they can just effortlessly push a new wood type every update to keep people satisfied. In my opinion, wood types should have their own patterns instead of just recolored regular wood, and each wood type should be dyable. Kinda like how each door has a different texture.

[@ShiroCh_ID]

@@SnrubSource 1.20 goes almost in that direction if you looks at the new bamboo things and sakura(or cherry)

[@RyPieEye]

BTA is one of my favorite mods for any game ever. It's genuinely just well made and fun. I'd like to also see other old minecraft get covered because some of them also really strike a chord with me

[@jacobsworld3014]

Bot

[@BillTheHuman]

​@@jacobsworld3014nuh uh

[@QUBIQUBED]

*chord

[@ultragalacticgamer7195]

Whats funny about BTA is that this mod has its own mods, and texture packs made by the community and I think even its own custom mod loader “babric” might be wrong though. Mods called “Better Than Waila” straight up ports waila into BTA. I saw a tech and magic mod. And all sorts of other mods

[@colbyboucher6391]

That's the advantage of it being a fork. People can start taking advantage of things like the increased world height and new direction. I have a bit of a dream of making a Rebirth of the Night-like mod for it. Much more simple than RotN but the same goal of making building more purposeful by including a lot of "tower defense" focused blocks and making mobs very capable of reaching you anyways at specific intervals (right when seasons change, conveniently.)

[@Generic_Noob]

It’s similar to Create mod addons and to some extent, the unofficial GregTech versions

[@ShiroCh_ID]

yep BTA's own Fabric Modloader was Called Babric or BTA Babric since i think Babric was for Official Betas

[@mosshivenetwork117]

Alex's caves

[@SnoFitzroy]

>tech and magic "We removed potions and enchanting because they're too unlike Minecraft. Anyway, here's technology and literal spells."

[@afk3661]

artist for the mod here- i'm glad to see people covering the recent updates, and this video does an amazing job at it there's a few features i got to work on for this update such as mob texture variants, sign pictograms, and more, and while they aren't important (some are super obscure like customizable tooltips), i'm curious as to people's thoughts on them. if you ever make a part 2 (maybe when the next update, 7.1 releases), you should cover them

[@binguschondo]

thank you for your work!! every bit of it is important. i especially liked the sign customization features! adds a lot more use to them. i’ll be keeping up with each update! :)

[@Levi___Ramirez]

I personally think the best thing about this mod compared to modern Minecraft is that blocks, materials, etc. all have MULTIPLE USES. You brought up the problem of inventory management issues in this mod, which I agree with. But, there are things you can do with each material where there are fun and interesting ways to address it without just simply limiting the amount of blocks in the game. The one that comes to my head right off the bat is The Trommel block that converts dirt blocks and gravel you have lying around into clay balls, pebbles (which can be used to craft more cobblestone) and other light materials. Sure the pebbles and flint and etc. you get from the Trommel could also contribute to the inventory issue but most times I simply craft more cobble or add to my gunpowder reserve from blocks that would of have just sat in a chest in waiting until a big project or something. Modern Minecraft lacks this, and mostly encourages you to simply hoard blocks for no reason other than there isn't much to do outside of very specific interactions or recipes, and Mojang's solution isn't to add interactable blocks like the Trommel, but rather give you more means to store things (Double chests being able to be placed next to each other after the longest time, Shulker boxes, bundles whenever those get finished, etc.) But yeah, great video! Glad you covered this beautiful mod! Hopefully this gets more people involved and servers start up using it :-)

[@colbyboucher6391]

Glass trap doors are a great example of Minecraft's older "use your imagination, kiddo" philosophy.

[@medicindisquise4271]

Speaking of the Trommel, I quite like how it interacts with Soul Sand. For a block without a lot of use in vanilla, having a reason to get it (free gold ore, iron ore, quartz and glowstone out of trommel) is great.

[@recarsion]

I also love the trommel block, and another nice thing about it is it uses coal to run so while you can get a lot of great stuff from it it's always a trade off. I'm doing a build right now where I'm having to smelt tons of smooth stone (didn't realize gold tools had silk touch so far) so between that and trommeling a lot, I like how coal is more of a scarce resource that I'm still happy to find dozens of hours into the game as opposed to basically just junk that I don't even bother picking up after a while.

[@zombieranger3410]

I would suggest if you want to stay on topic, you should take a good look at Vintage Story, a game made by people who used to develop TerraFirmaCraft (a minecraft mod) who didn’t want to be restricted by modding. It has truly bloomed with its own vision and offers a completely different experience despite many mistaking it as a Minecraft texturepack + modpack. One playthrough tells you they are nowhere near the same games.

[@mosshivenetwork117]

The same developers from terrafirmacraft? I thought it looked familiar.

[@alyceblak1524]

@@mosshivenetwork117 it wasnt made by the terrafirmacraft devs, the devs were minecraft modders who were inspired by TFC to my understanding

[@mosshivenetwork117]

@@alyceblak1524 oh my baaad

[@CthulhuChris]

I love this video - I just was playing BTA today and I’m slowly playing that more than modern Minecraft currently. I can tell that BTA is a total labour of love and it caught my interest straight away when I saw it for the first time. Lately, I really needed a different Minecraft experience, as I could feel myself wanting to take a break from ‘Vanilla’, so I didn’t hesitate to start playing BTA to try it out and boy, did it not disappoint! BTA is quickly making me want to play it nearly everyday and I plan on continuing with it for as long as I can. I might even introduce it to some of my friends by showing them this video and hopefully setting up a BTA server with them to play on so I can share my experience with BTA and demonstrate how wonderful it is! Anyway, keep it up man and thank you very much for making this video!

[@oscarplant6371]

If you get that server running and are looking for some more players lemme know dude! :)

[@SnrubSource]

we should collectively start acting like BTA and the other alternate development path mods are vanilla and official Mojang updates are just an elaborate modpack

[@Apollointhehouse]

@@SnrubSource I already do that, I don't even know what is happening in modern mc

[@tissuepaper9962]

@@Apollointhehouse in the words of Yogurt the Wise, "Merchandising!"

[@shalltear159]

would absolutely love to see a "Better than Combat" mod come into existence, and I'm sure that I share that sentiment with many other people.

[@katfox_cal]

yes, absolutely. came down here to see if someone else feels like this

[@IAm-zo1bo]

So just different combat?

[@lilpisser124]

@@IAm-zo1bo i would imagine it to be a mod with went along the same path as earlier versions not just a difference in combat, but a path without the additions(mistakes) of modern versions.

[@tissuepaper9962]

@@IAm-zo1bo Not just "different", but a reversion of the combat mechanics to their pre-1.9 state, aka "The Combat Update". Shields and weapon cooldowns were *extremely* controversial additions to the game, so much so that many PvP servers still use the combat mechanics from 1.7, either using a Bukkit/Spigot plugin, or by simply requiring the client to use that older version.

[@hdns4]

@@tissuepaper9962 Sounds like it already exists then. Play on a server with one of those plugins. You could even run your own server with the plugin if you just want to play single player. No need to develop a whole mod for it.

[@Natillumi]

I just started playing BTA and im having really fun so far, so this was nice to see in my notifications :D. ALSO, don't stop making videos. Your videos are like 9/10 minimum.

[@denisdubovik228]

My gosh. Habit of minecraft community to say that a new feature is "not vanilla" was there from the very start

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

Ironic that a feature that “killed the game’s original identity” was created before beta 1.7.

[@thelittleleafeon7988]

​​@@flowerthencrranger3854 it's literally a classic drama, Minecraft always have this discussion, even before the classic

[@katfox_cal]

I wish people did this for other versions as well. My personal picks for version forks would be 1.7.10, 1.8.9 and 1.12.2, i feel like those are some of the most turning points and i would like to see them expanded in this way.

[@igorsiemann]

I remember Better Than Wolves being featured in a lot of minecraft talk and videos when I was only 12 years old in 2011, it's crazy to think that its been at least a decade since I've last heard anything about it and it's legacy lives to this day

[@lloydlejack-official]

Also, congrats on 9k. I really hope you get over 50k by the end of year, hopefully more.

[@keegan1863]

Love your videos. Its so refreshing to see high quality content covering older versions of this game and the mods for them. Please consider making a video on Not So Seecret Saturday sometime!

[@tennoki]

This resonates with me a lot. While I started playing in beta 1.8 and bulk of of my playing time was till release 1.6, I quite enjoyed just caving, collecting resources, planned + expanded my house and farmed. My play was a very crafting table + furnace only style. At some point updates felt more like chunks on top of something complete, in a "look at this new thing that spawns in a completely new biome" that has to be by design not be part of the core gameplay since not everyone spawns there.

[@stealthproductionz6648]

i've been starting to feel the want to go back to minecraft how it use to be but at the same time have more, this was perfect to gain knowledge on the mod. Keep doing great pal!

[@KristjanThomasHaaristo]

unironically got goosebumps at 11:59, the visuals of beta 1.7.3 are unmatched in its style and feels like it plays into its strength, modern MC is just too.. modern for no reason in particular

[@Kratos7560]

As far as armor went, I had a similar idea that gave armors different combat damage types similar to what you would see in D&D (Slashing, Piercing and Bludgeoning damage) to validate lower tier armors. Glad to see someone had a like-minded concept on armor revamps.

[@maplecatstars]

bingus i havent played minecraft in like 6 months, but your videos are always so entertaining and informative that it makes me want to stick around, keep it up & gl on the road to 10k 🎊

[@tissuepaper9962]

This is the first video of yours that I've watched and the intro really tripped me out. My Steam name has been "bingus" for years, and I've learned to respond to that name as if it were my real name through years of voice comms in CS:GO, so being addressed as "bingus" in the intro gave me a bit of a spook lol. This was a really good review, thorough without being exhaustive and dragging on, you laid out the motivation of the devs and their implementation in a concise narrative while also speaking directly to the frustrations I have had with the official versions of the game and how they've diverged from the atmosphere of the retro versions, which I can best describe as "pleasant loneliness".

[@karlkarl93]

Excellent coverage of this mod! Your editing/content quality is a pleasant surprise for the channel size. Cannot wait to see what you do in the future. You have definitely earned the subscriptions! :)

[@BonkSalsa]

Love your videos, they have such a chill vibe and are really easy to consume. The Minecraft content is great, but I would totally be there for any other games you cover in the future. Keep up the great work!

[@jakeplushpro]

Yes! A new video from my favorite mod! More people need to cover Better Than Adventure ASAP!

[@vinegar6676]

Bro, i absolutely adore your video and how older Minecraft versions gain popularity. I recently found out about better than adventure, and, consiquently, Better than wolves which you mentioned! I installed BTW 1.5.2 on my phone using pojav launcher (basically java on android) and i love it! Thank you for the content!

[@ichimiustin8390]

Can you tell me how did you install the mods on the pojavlauncher beta 1.7.3? All of the tutorials I've found are outdated. I stumbled upon your comment by pure luck, as I have been looking into this mod, and the android port of the java edition. I have a PC, I just wish to get it working on mobile too, as I could take it with me where I go. I've tried changing stuff in the Json, I installed the mod as you usually do on PC, but I still couldn't get it to work.

[@YourNeighborNat]

Interesting that at least a couple of the blocks suggested by FlowerChild were similar to/the same as those that did end up in Minecraft in some capacity

[@atomicjedi6230]

18:55 "They're not asking if the mod is better than the adventure update, theres no question mark in the title" - goes insanely hard and i love this line. Could not agree with you more

[@supergabriel2782]

*drops an an absolute BANGER* "i hope that was ok"

[@clobzz]

omfg it actually does look like the legacy console editions, no youre not crazy, as someone that grew up with xbox 360 minecraft from TU1, its my absolute favorite and most nostalgic version ever and i especially liked how it looked and felt in comparison to other versions

[@Kennephone]

I personally play 1.12.2, cause that's the last release version before the entire game was overhauled, and everything changed, it also has incredible mod support.

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

So, a worst version than modern minecraft? Apart from server and client performance, I can’t see a reason to why anyone would prefer the old ugly oceans and horrendous world gen.

[@frcl6]

@@flowerthencrranger3854shut

[@TheFastfoodcritic]

its so cool to see this stuff being covered that I got to see go down in real time years later

[@Loy_Otterton]

I've been hosting a small better than adventure server for a group of friends for about a week. It as been a very refreshing experience to relive the classic experience, but to also have the feeling mystery that comes with all the new additions! We explored one of the labyrinths and it was much better and engaging than any current structures, but it was also very simple at the same time.

[@Lambdatories]

3:39 I second this, it took me 2 months to discover how good bamboo wood is for early game building

[@JRHainsworth]

It’s also interesting to note that, aside from the 4 enemy mobs, and the hell dimension added by a Halloween update which had no purpose beside being a cool Easter egg, the game was going for pure realism, and 1.8 and beyond was when it moved away from that with potions, the end, enchanting etc.

[@lloydlejack-official]

Great service. Last night i asked for more videos and you delivered 🤣

[@misterk7_-]

Nice video ,subscribed! Really makes me want to try BTA now as a Retro Minecraft fan. Also I want to point out that the Bloom effect reminds me of the same effect some old Minecraft Machinimas would use. EDIT: I'M ALSO REALLY LOVING YOUR CONTENT SO FAR!

[@Zomboik]

One of the reasons why modern mc updates feel so unfulfilling compared to old ones is because Notch added things "randomly" many old items wouldn't exist in modern mc because they don't go by mojangs design "rules", creeper is example of that, notch made a mistake when he was making pig and instead created creeper with pig skin, which he then created a greenish monster skin and thus became creeper. You wouldn't see something like that in new updates. Another reason is that mojang because souless now and everything they add to mc is designed with kids in mind, updates will always be up, some with more content and some will not much content. "Better than adventure" devs don't have nowhere near as much man power as mojang and yet they poured their heart into this mod, are more connected with playerbase than mojang, who just does rebranding as it wishes and even breaks laws by changing EULA... Even if notch is a shitty person (see what I did there) he shouldn't have sold mc to microsoft. While I love modern minecraft and *most* of it's updates, there's no denying that Mojang has grew disconected from it's fans and became almost souless company that's now trying to actively control everything that has word minecraft in it. (examples new EULA, banning mc content on youtube if they don't like something, telling you how you must use word minecraft, banning mods/servers/plugins with guns, frogs and fireflies, chat monitoring etc.)

[@Mikulak25]

Flower child: imma fix wolves

[@NCPBails]

wow another video so soon! congrats on 9k

[@Raykkie]

13:30 The entire system presented ironically is wayy more RPG than the RPG stuff from 1.8-Onward

[@cassidycrawford6968]

I read the post at 2:41 and holy shit the guy legit just predicted Pistons, Sun/moonlight detectors, and redstone lamps. Like so casually too.

[@frizer1488]

Bro fym predicted. It often happens that mojang add things to the game from other player’s mods

[@sunlandia2497]

As a 1.5k hour tf2 player I didn't even need to see the reference clip to get the reference. just heard "crouching seems to make it better" and instantly knew where they got the idea.

[@ThePC007]

I do like the died wooden planks and different stone types since I’ve used a mod that added new plank variants back in 1.7.3 all those years ago (in fact, you used the newly added stone types to dye the planks). It’s almost kinda nostalgic for me. :P

[@kaylaa2204]

A few things I’ve seen in this mod do feel abit bloaty? Like a few features here and there that in my mind exhibit the same problem that produced things like the adventure update and especially modern updates to begin with Adding features that are so disconnected from the central mechanics as to bloat the game with unnecessary features. In BTA those are things like painted wood, there’s like a sieve thing and pebbles and all this stuff that isn’t really necessary However it does do a lot right as well. So I’m kind of on the fence with how I feel about the mod. If I ever took up such a project myself I’d do many things differently but probably also take much inspiration I like the concept of replacing enchantment with properties of materials. That’s a cool idea to me. In some ways magic doesn’t fit beta Minecraft, so making it a mundane thing that’s part of the preexisting system instead of creating a whole new non-thematic subsystem makes a lot of sense. I feel like the enchanting system in practice feels like a prerequisite before you can actually do what you want. You need an xp farm so you can get all the enchantments you want so you can go off and do your projects. But in beta people were used to “you can get started on your project as soon as you load in if you want” The constant adding of subsystems and pointless knobs to turn is anathema to the game in this way. I don’t want the way I play to be complicated more and more with each update. I don’t want the game to be telling me directly or indirectly “you have to do this thing” because again it misses the point And when I see BTA do some things that are straying into that territory I fear it becoming what Better than Wolves became over the years. Just as bloated as the modern game but in a different way.

[@6ypyNDyk]

The saddest part is that they don't like idea of releasing version that DOESN'T contain all those bload, pure QOL. But they *might* add option to generate full vanilla beta 1.7.3 worlds without generation of new blocks and bioms. If they add this feature, this will be my go-to way to play beta, but now I'll stick to B2B.

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Today I learned three things: 1. I am Bingus 2. You are Chondo 3. I really gotta play this mod

[@zoominmonkey278]

bro looks like he came straight out of the beegees

[@christianautilus374]

i really love your approach to the old minecraft topic and the way youre so passionate about making videos in this regard, please dont get corrupted be the youtube money-and-popularity rush, stay as you are man i subrcribed for the way you are right now and i hope you will keep on going by the character and ideals that youve set for yourself. grow big, dont change ♡

[@depressoforsale]

hey, bc! nor really related to the video itself, but I just wanted to say that your content brings an extreme amount of comfiness to my evenings and nights! I really like your approach to video essays and it is just very relaxing but at the same time engaging to listen to you talk about stuff you seem to deeply care about, or at least be very interested in :) your videos proof that modern youtube videos don't have to be extremely loud and fast, that just a dude rambling about stuff could also be enough to entertain. I very happily watch this channel steadily grow and can't wait for new videos! keep up the good work!

[@GotosFaus]

As someone who started Minecraft during the beta days but loves what Minecraft has become and enjoys heavily modded Minecraft as well, I can tell BTA would not be for me. But seeing a project like this gain traction has me excited for all you folks out there who *do* enjoy this kind of experience! This video was a very interesting watch, even though I probably won't play BTA myself :)

[@physical_insanity]

I didn't think Adventure was a bad idea, but it wasn't executed the best it could be. Minecraft always felt best when it felt like *your* toybox, when you were the only person in a hostile world that you could tame. Villages would have been cool as like a surface level dungeon and rather than being populated by Testificates, it had zombies in the buildings or something. If Better Than Adventure manages to find a way to incorporate the best elements of the Adventure update into Beta Minecraft, then it'll truly be a mod for the ages, because it's almost perfect right now.

[@kremsnita446]

binguschondo with another banger, how isnt this channel more well-known?

[@CreepyboomGamer]

Definitely going to check this out. It looks like a really interesting mod.

[@XaeDae]

not only are all these points amazing, theres also the point that this mod changed so much is spawned an entire community around modding for BTA

[@nifiga_prikolno]

Honestly, Minecraft updates for me became very overwhelming as a part-time player who plays the game just once in a uncertain time period. I started to play it at versions 1.4 and after 1.9 the feature set started to rise so rapidly that I don't know what I have to prioritize during normal survival gameplay after you have established with basic resources, yet after the endgame you're being given many overpowered items which may be unclear on how to obtain without scrolling through the guides or just time consuming and frankly doesn't make me feel rewarded after getting them, yet the QoL improvements of modern versions make me feel like older versions are "literally unplayable", or at least uncomfortable when doing regular stuff. Playing Beta and BTA reminded me of playing the Pocket edition 0.5.X back in the day which is the most enjoying experience of Minecraft I've ever had yet it's not limited to the world size and has some own additions to the game and I finally kinda enjoyed playing Minecraft after a long while

[@TwentySeventhLetter]

I think we're handily at the point that playing these different versions is a lot more like playing a game and its sequel than the same game. We can appreciate some choices, disagree with others, but ultimately be overjoyed that we get two fantastic games to play depending on the mood we're in. Everything I've heard about BTA has been pretty awesome, so I can't wait to give it a try myself.

[@austinrichard8046]

Ayyy found a bingus video again! Such good quality Great video dawg

[@Trainz2950]

This is what makes minecraft modding so powerful, especially total conversions, like terra firma craft and BTA/BTW

[@sulphurous2656]

Not going to lie, I'd still like to have Nether Fortresses and Villages.

[@Minirow]

Another banger from the big Chond. 🙏 I still can't believe how many of these views I align with, but could never quite out into words. I'll definitely be checking this mod out soon!

[@Minirow]

I meant say "put into words", but don't want to clear the heart. Thanks again though

[@ZetaPrime77]

As far as I'm concerned, BTA is the definitive version of Minecraft. I hope people make big servers with it someday

[@TheAlexinou8]

Important thing to say, this mod brings Java 17 to Beta 1.7.3, so that players don't have to download an old LTS version of Java to play it!

[@ikagura]

I love a "what if we got an alternate timeline" kind of mod.

[@schniemand]

This is te exact thing I've wanted to exist, but I didn't bother to look up whether it'd been done already because I didn't know how the heck I could have fed it to a search engine. Glad I found this now! Turns out it's real

[@SandmanSw]

I recently started playing vanilla beta 1.7.3 and I can honestly say that it’s very refreshing to go back and play and it’s just more exciting just the feeling of dying is scary again unlike in modern Minecraft it doesn’t feel like there’s any threat in the game like it does in beta

[@Majima_Nowhere]

As someone who believes Minecraft was at its peak during beta 1.7 (1.8 changed the world gen, killing old famous seeds and beginning the slow march towards boring "realistic" terrain), I'm glad to learn of this mod. I'll give it a shot.

[@gameo7]

The way the armor types and tool tiers are implemented are such unique and creative ways to make the game interesting and fun. It allows players to utilize almost all types of tools and armor and not just stick to the most durable like in vanilla minecraft. I also absolutely love how color grading and bloom are implemented!

[@ethandonovan8368]

I’m surprised they haven’t added more golems or tried to add more crop varieties into the game. Kinda feels like they’re adding in half baked mechanics and then moving onto the next half baked mechanic. I like modern Minecraft but modern Minecraft lacks a lot of fluidity compared to older versions.

[@NotKnafo]

why diamonds get fire protection? dont they know how to test if a diamond is fake?

[@koopdawhoop.]

this is like tf2 classic but for minecraft, forking an extremely old version of a highly updated game, make it run like butter in a pan, and add new content that reflects the philosophy of that version of the game

[@JohnDoe-uc5iu]

Better than wolves is my most favorite mod, it has really well paced progression and a steep challenge without feeling something cluged onto minecraft. I still remember the first time i played it when i was a kid.

[@ToufouMaster]

Thank you for this video, i rediscovered this mod recently, and now i'm modding this mod... we are a group of dedicated people who love beta minecraft and we love porting already known mods to BTA, exemples are RetroStorage (Ae2 but easier) FluidAPI for mods including fluids and (mine) BTWaila that port WAILA a modern mod. there is a lot of other mods already done, and hopefully one day we will be able to make modpacks out of it ;D Thank you for this video again, BTA has a Discord server you can join ;D Have fun

[@parallax256]

that's cool as hell man

[@kirabey8946]

I would love a video about "Better Than Wolves" and the newly created "BTW: Community Edition".

[@Dorvendor]

11:00 yes i see it too. As an og console player this is so great. BTA feels almost like an official fork of mc. And i love it more than mojang's current versions.

[@D17_9]

I just played BTA yesterday, I was inspired to do it because I had seen an update video as well as some of your other videos.

[@GEONEgaming]

This confuses me. They hated the new features like enchanting enough that they created their own fork of the game, only to end up adding... reflavored enchanting-like features? They hated how un-minecrafty the adventure update felt, but they went on to add things like handcannons and shaders? It feels like they became the very thing they sought to 'correct'. I have a feeling if any of the features they later added with this mod were originally added by the vanilla adventure update, they would be vehemently opposed to them.

[@sprousprou]

A lot of additions are similar to modern ones, but different in a lot of key ways. For example, with enchanting, they didn’t like how enchanting was handled, not that different tools could get different effects. They didn’t like the magic theming and how every tool could get every effect on it at once, not requiring you to use different tools for different situations as with BTA’s tools only having one effect specifically. There’s also a lot of ways that what “un-Minecrafty” means has changed over the years, like how the handcannons fit right in with BTA, but would be very out of place in modern Minecraft.

[@binguschondo]

i think that’s an interesting point! i suppose the answer would be in execution rather than idea. for me, i personally like how overlapped features are handled more in this mod. it feels, to me, that they fit the context of beta minecraft really well. which - obviously, is the goal lol. it’s definitely up to personal preference, though! when it comes to the enchantments specifically, i think it’s interesting that they manage to put in these mechanics without introducing many new systems. with the modern game, to have enchanting, you need experience and leveling, but here, it’s a more direct approach that plays off of what the game already has, rather than bringing in something new. for people who find the modern game too busy, introducing these concepts in a more immediate way is likely preferable.

[@Apollointhehouse]

@theoneloserguy7011 I think hand cannons fit pretty well and they give more uses for gunpowder

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

@@sprousprouexcept that can’t happen. You can’t have shit like fortune and silk touch on the same pickaxe and as such will need two of them to fit all your needs.

[@nathanfielding8587]

Seeing these carefully developed MC mods overhaul the game to legitimately feeling like MC through an alternative vision, almost like an alternate universe version as some would put it, is staggering. It's incredible.

[@JAKE-em5xr]

I always love finding these under 100k yt channels with original content that covers like niche things also you look exactly like my cousin without including the eye color bruh.

[@yarro1965]

If you really like this, I would genuinely suggest looking into Vintage Story. It was made by the terrafirmacraft devs and features a lot of things featured here (steel, colored wood planks, seasons). It's a lot more realistic, and a lot more difficult than Minecraft but It's a refreshing experience. Also, yes please on a Minecraft lets play????

[@electroflame6188]

You could say it's... _beta_ than adventure.

[@jamawama297]

I love the idea that armors are no longer in tiers but have their own respective uses and abilities something I wish mojang would do already.

[@ChewyMovesQuick]

most underrated minecraft channel ong. I don't really even play it anymore but I still love the nestalgia of it.

[@DatBisa]

I can't believe my favorite not-Minecraft-KZbinr just uploaded their third Minecraft video in a row the moment I got home, about a mod I myself have been playing a ton recently (the dream-like game video was a banger too, keep doing your stuff™!)

[@deetsteve00]

I've seen this mod being metioned on MinecraftForums and I didn't think anything of it. But seeing this review made me check it out with a different perspective

[@DarkThunderism]

Only shame about the Better than Wolves mod is that it's terrible now. It's like- spiritually, Create is now what BTW was. And BTW is a hyper-realistic slogfest that doesn't feel like Minecraft.

[@Gofaw]

BTW devolved from a primitive tech mod that fit into Minecraft's vibe to a "what if we make everything harder and more tedious just because" type of mod

[@DarkThunderism]

@@Gofaw Exactly. And for the most part, Create does the whole windmills, shafts and gearboxes thing that made me like BTW back in Beta 1.4

[@vier7178]

I had a feeling that the video will be about this mod! I have been playing it for some time and it was fun

[@DeltaSkylar201]

Y'know, as I was watching that section about Better than Wolves (the warning to Notch about including wolves in particular), something occurred to me. From what I understood, the issue that FlowerChild had was about pets, their inclusion and how difficult and time-consuming it would be to create proper AI for them so that they do not feel intrusive to the player but also simultaneously provide entertainment and interest with their behaviors. What jumped out at me was that these issues weren't about wolves specifically, which makes me wonder... why not make Better Wolves? As in, a kind of hostile mob that appears in packs and will attack the player if they approach, but could be bribed by tossing bones or food (specifically kinds of meat) to become neutral while they're occupied and perhaps for a little while thereafter (sort of a grace period so that players aren't getting swarmed every few minutes by the same pack of wolves that they just fed). That way, the wolves would act as a genuine obstacle to the player, either through being a dangerous hostile mob that appears in packs and can easily swarm an unprepared player OR through forcing players to give up valuable healing items or resources in order to avoid a confrontation. In other words, adding to the core gameplay experience of exploration, hence justifying their inclusion.

[@lunatybg]

i can tell that your channel will be huge in like a year and i fear it

[@peb2899]

I could've sworn you had a million subs with the quality of this vid!!

[@evdestroy5304]

Honestly I expected this mod to die shortly after creation, so I'm glad to see there is still a community for "classic" Minecraft.

[@jonkadelic]

We plan to keep working on BTA for as long as it's fun to do so.

[@sechmascm]

I kinda want a mod that emulates the game's updates as if we were back in 2010. Like you're playing alpha X.X.X and you get a notification that notch just released the next update and given the choice to update when you next boot up Minecraft. These updates would be at some pace based on your playthrough time or something. If you get too bored, a button that says "take a break until the next update" that would skip to the next update immediately. I want this because I want to play Minecraft as it was being made, building up the knowledge with every changelog. Also the skip button would let you skip the 1.9 gap

[@squibydoesalittletrolling]

the most surprising thing i discovered today is that someone thought WOLVES were a bad idea

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Eh I don't like them either.

[@SpunkMcKullins]

I've never been a fan of modern Minecraft. I tried getting back into it recently and was horrified to learn just how excited people were for 1.20. The biggest features were pink wood and a mob that does nothing. People waited a year for that and were excited for it. It's become obvious that Minecraft left people like me behind.

[@sammythygamer5622]

It even has a beta version of fabric now. Babric mod development support. And there are good mods being made for it

[@sammythygamer5622]

Currently developing mods for bta

[@_shadow_1]

I didn't like the direction that Minecraft originally went, but it was actually because I didn't think that they went hard enough on the RPG feel. Basically, they should have basically stayed away from RPG elements entirely or went all in early on more so than they ever did in the base game so it didn't feel out of place or half baked. I would have actually liked to see more true RPG elements. Here's a list of ideas I had for a path like this: A better less intrusive hunger implementation which still determines whether or not you can regenerate but is independent from how much health is actually regenerated (basically only time and action based). The total elimination of the cursed stack system entirely in favor of a capacity/weight based one because "inventory clutter" is annoying, but there still should be some limitations. Weapon and tool proficiencies by character instead of enchantments on tools allowing greater tool customization based on player preference or play style. Actual leveling with various stats and combat classes. More varied monster types and difficulties. Real weapon and armor customization with a skill based smithing system, again allowing more player freedom for their specific classes or needs. Seasons with dynamic temperature mechanics complete with unique items, events, and enemies. Making game progression boss based with the world dynamically responding to the defeating of those bosses by unlocking more challenging areas, dimensions, events, and even stronger bosses to try to defeat.

[@areakastudios6704]

This mod is extremely fun. I've been playing it and it makes for a really fun Alternate universe. I grew up with versions like 1.6 and 1.7 (my first was pocket edition lite) so I can't say I agree with some of the mentality people have surrounding the mod, but it's still really fun regardless.