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[@salemsaleh9577]

Paul Saladino is a great example of how easily a good public speaker can convince people of whatever quackery.

[@69camaro19]

Oh so true..

[@kamo7293]

just going to say that many notorius dictators were also incredible orators

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

the vegans have this down to a science.

[@viktorgoa]

@@salemsaleh9577 so is Lame Norton, the internet "doctor"😂

[@KenWang2]

By the time this video came out he’s already Pescatarian.

[@jonahrichardson582]

3 years from now he is going to start adding some veggies and just eating a normal balanced diet of whole foods

[@annebayliss9886]

Omg that’s so funny 😂😂

[@Gift-Lord]

Grains are really bad for you. Rice, pasta, and bread are literally cancerous.

[@channers625]

I am doing carnivore diet and even I think he will. He will just become an everything in moderation diet advocate

[@seamussullivan2218]

Circle of Life ... lol

[@kamo7293]

he'll finally live up to his name, salad ino

[@chrisbell8418]

Paul told Mark and I that fruit was pornography and we were on the JV team of carnivore because we were open to eating fruit and some leafy greens. Mark was actually the one who convinced him to eat some carbs, but I’ve never heard him credit Mark. 🤔 Great video Layne.

[@Ash-os7fc]

No offence but you and your brother are literally the worst offenders for peddling pseudoscience

[@adim00lah]

People like Paul are so convinced they have all the answers, a lot of doctors I hate to say in my experience are like that, it's a God complex thing imo, they think their logic is infallible. Plus I saw him just recently adding a bunch of rosemary to his burgers, which are leaves, he said he doesn't eat leaves due to defense chemicals. And rosemary is full of defense chemicals, that's why it's useful as a pesticide. Making these hard lines in the sand just doesn't make sense to me, but to each their own.

[@ashdgee]

Great to hear you say your input Chris Bell

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

@@chrisbell8418 and what did you tell Bart K ?? Or more important, what did he tell you back ???

[@Bullseye_Strength]

No way, *THE* Chris Bell?! How are you keeping brother?

[@johnnytran5576]

Thank you for saving me from these diet cults. I was deep into this stuff, but you have shown me the light. Dieting has been way simpler and I’ve never felt better

[@martinsvensson6884]

Exactly. Carnivoe is not a diet. Its the food we evolved to eat.

[@LastOne-t3o]

Exactly.​@@martinsvensson6884

[@RaveyDavey]

@@martinsvensson6884it’s a mostly right wing cult at this point. It ignores the best data we have in preference for narratives like the one you’re parroting right there: the “evolved to eat” schtick. Were evolved omnivores.

[@MattBorchert]

While I haven't read the book he was pushing for the carnivore diet, it would have been vastly more interesting to me if it covered the downfall from eating that diet. Treat it like a proper experiment, showcase the good, the bad, and the ugly. Give people real information to make informed choices instead of pushing a narrative which may be harmful to many. It's so easy to get information out at scale today, I wish more people cared about how what they say impacts those who listen.

[@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans]

I met someone who did buy his book and showed me some pictures he took for reference and it's framed a lot less extremist compared to how he comes across. There's plants he deems that are lower risk as far as oxalate content and whatever and fish regarding mercury, etc. It did kind of change my mind on him a little bit, and then i watched his interview with Lillie Kane and he seems a lot more reasonable than in most of the shorts he does. It still bothers the hell out of me that his references are in vitro and animal models, though, and there are still a few holes in his logic sometimes.

[@gmw3083]

​@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyan Was Lily formerly overweight? Seems that's the case for most people that carnivore is beneficial to for a longer duration.

[@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans]

@@gmw3083 Not overweight per se but she wasn't as lean as she is now. But from what I've seen most carnivores do come from being very overweight or obese and then focus on the weight loss and the subsequent effects from it.

[@gmw3083]

@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans I wonder when Shawn Baker and Anthony Chaffee will have to make modifications. Or if they're not really doing what they claim...

[@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans]

@@gmw3083 There's a pic of chaffee from six or so years ago with a coconut and a beer, which doesn't align with his timeline he claims for being carnivore.

[@KenWang2]

By the time this video came out he’s already Pescatarian.

[@joshua9719]

@@KenWang2 he quit carnivore 3 years ago and he still isn’t pescatarian. Layne is completely obsessed with Paul it’s outrageous

[@Gromobran]

⁠​⁠@@joshua9719yeah… as he should be. Paul is orthorexic and sending dangerous msgs to people all the time.

[@AJ-vy4yu]

Carnivore works for many because plant defense chemicals do cause problems and so do carbs. Some seem to need (quality) carbs, others do better without them. We know that those who have problems with weight usually manage to loose weight with lowering their carbs. We also know that those with Alzheimer, epilepsy and autism do good with keto diet. There is no evidence that replacing meat with vegetables is good for you. In fact the best scientific studies, observations and other evidence tells it's the opposite. "The association between a plant-based diet (vegetarianism) and extended life span is increasingly criticised since it may be based on the lack of representative data and insufficient removal of confounders such as lifestyles." "Worldwide, bivariate correlation analyses revealed that meat intake is positively correlated with life expectancies. This relationship remained significant when influences of caloric intake, urbanization, obesity, education and carbohydrate crops were statistically controlled. Stepwise linear regression selected meat intake, not carbohydrate crops, as one of the significant predictors of life expectancy. In contrast, carbohydrate crops showed weak and negative correlation with life expectancy." -Total Meat Intake is Associated with Life Expectancy: A Cross-Sectional Data Analysis of 175 Contemporary Populations

[@YousufS16]

ur such a clown... he literally quit the carnivore diet like 3 years ago and from them he barely changed his diet

[@frankwilliamsjr.5250]

@@joshua9719Paul’s a flip flop and clearly the joke went over your head. There isn’t a diet fad he hasn’t done and his advice is contradictory at best.

[@jumproper8990]

I love you man, your daughter painted your nails and you don't care what people will think watching this video. Respect!

[@seanwroblewski4423]

I'd love to see Derek and Dr. Norton do a podcast

[@zach81210]

This is the collab that we all need

[@davesprivatelounge]

Seconded

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

Derek would get destroyed.

[@jamescox2634]

​@@Jojo-o6o6wWhat a weird comment.

[@truthbetold8233]

Derek seems like a nice guy but he's so naive and sympathetic to quacks

[@vikingdaytrip4447]

Layne why don’t you just agree to have him on you podcast and confront and debate him in person. We’d all love to see that!

[@ashdgee]

He did mention that he would love to debate with him on a neutral platform. I guess Paul is yet to respond 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@star-warsien]

Yeah... Paul destroyed him in a debate when he was carnivore. I imagine it'd be more of the same even now.

[@ForgetJay100]

He said he would do it on a neutral platform because he doesn’t want to be talked over

[@RaveyDavey]

@@star-warsienlol oh really? and when was that? Saladino never destroyed anyone other than in the eyes of the carnivore cultists.

[@warrenhenning8064]

The bronze era guys like George Hackenschmidt advised eating widely and sensibly. Extremes of any kind usually have negative outcomes. But that don't sell no books or get no listeners/viewers that can be monetized into sponsorships and ads.

[@anonemoose102]

From what I've seen being plant based is not very extreme, what's your take?

[@PFirefly06]

He hasn't been carnivore for like a couple years so I'm curious why the wait for this video?

[@TheFsissala]

For ages!! I’m surprised by this video too. Like you said it’s been years!!

[@KenWang2]

Same why they keep making videos about it

[@controversialspeculation]

Because he’s a hater people just can’t accept that Paul was able to change his mind about his diet & actually succeed 😂😂😂

[@joshua9719]

the difference between Paul and so many other doctors is he has an open mind and is willing to change things even if he believes in them heavily. These vegans are somehow able to turn that against him. Paul is a great man and if you watch his content he goes way more into why he has certain opinions, and always provides studies to prove it

[@thenomadicchef1844]

I have done a lot of research and I have concluded that having a cancerous tumor contributes to weight loss and as everyone knows weight loss is a good thing. I am now researching the best way to develop a cancerous tumor. As with anything worth doing you must work hard for a desired result and I am convinced by all the data that my weight reduction will permit me to live my best life.

[@ThatGirlK24]

😂😂

[@ishheredia9626]

So paul has added fruit into his diet ...wonder how long it'll take for him to add vegetables

[@ths3477]

Are tomatoes fruits or vegetables?

[@FlatEarthScholar]

They are nightshades​@@ths3477

[@kirkchurchil8216]

@@ths3477 “ Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad” Miles Kington

[@ArixSage]

i doubt he's ever going to add those back in his diet

[@PSA78]

​@@ths3477Fruit, and I recall one keto nutcase who said he only eats vegetables and no fruit, and he went on to say: "like tomatoes". 😂

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

he was never quiet about it.. he likes to experiment and one of his experiments was to introduce fruit and honey.. and he felt better so he kept doing it and was totally upfront about it.

[@Lieutenant-Dan]

At the same time as releasing a carnivore book 🤔

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

@@Lieutenant-Dan thats not what happened, you dont know what youre talking about. He released that book when he first started carnivore. it was literally years later during his experimentation with adding fruit to his diet that he figured it it made him feel better.. again, he was open and honest about all of it the whole time. Im not really sure why people like you act like its some 'own' thats happened to him lol

[@TheFsissala]

@@Jojo-o6o6wwhen people are set on what they want to have happened they don’t bother checking what’s true.

[@Lieutenant-Dan]

@@Jojo-o6o6w did you even watch the video? Layne gave a timeline for the book along with some other things wrong with what Paul says. People like me? I'm not acting like anything. I just pointed out what Layne also pointed out in the video, and shows that Paul is heavily biased and somewhat disingenuous. Your comment implied like oh he's just a guy who likes to experiment. It's a bit worse than that. Watch the video.

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

@@Lieutenant-Dan then derek is misrepresenting , that simple. dont be a gullible sheep and stop slurping on Derek's D

[@tjblackmore7863]

What's interesting is how many people have copied Saladino. A whole army of bros are on instagram, with unseasoned ground beef and bananas on a cutting board, exclaiming "this is the most optimal diet for humans!" We should call it "The Saladino Effect"

[@dealwolfstriked272]

Snake diet guy said to eat spam and pickles and the posts where of people miraculously dropping bodyfat like crazy. Nowadays he pushes a high sugar diet and the posts read....I am ripped I cant believe I finally got skinny thanks Snake man! :) Its crazy and enough to make everyone around crazy also!

[@tjblackmore7863]

@@dealwolfstriked272 Maybe one day he’ll figure out calories in/calories out.

[@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441]

Hes impressionable/likeable and speaks confidently... so it attracts people through enthusiasm. I have a similar ability at parties, its an adhd hyper focus. Just need to make sure its consistent longterm when your influential.

[@Macgee826]

​@@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441even if you do say so yourself 😂

[@star-warsien]

Not exactly. A carnivore lifestyle has some very great healthy effects, its an amazing reset diet. Paul has given great evidence to suggest how people could benefit from it and its true, they absolutely can. Now long term though, we see Paul change his mind. Its fantastic to see. He offers all of his reasoning with scientific resources/references and above all people try the diet. If it works for them they stick with it, if not then they go somewhere else.

[@allisonfalin8854]

Wait so his eczema got worse when he was under stress in medical school and residency. Last I checked that is a trigger to, yet he seems unaware of this fun fact.

[@ve_rb]

Must have been the broccoli

[@aa.4639]

1000% Bingo. My First thought. As somebody that has adrenal PCOS with high cortisol ...All I can hear IS somebody that suffered with high cortisol due to stress.

[@star-warsien]

No, since he's tried foods recently sense then that he used to trigger against and had the same result...

[@torstrasburg8289]

Hypocracy, dogmatism, pseudoscience, hubris, profiteering on false claims, prey of the sunk-cost fallacy-a non-practicing psychiatrist pretending to be an expert in nutrition while cherry-picking any shred of so-called evidence to support his food ideology/dictum, and grand-practitioner of N=1 and anecdote-medicine. The Paul Saladino we all love, admire, and respect.

[@_negentropy_]

👏👏🙌🙌

[@tsebosei1285]

Huhh using extreme English for me there, a balanced one please 😂 then I can understand

[@MT-sq3jo]

Your words are too eloquently stated and I’m afraid that most followers of Paul don’t have the intelligence to understand 😂

[@Defox721]

dogmatism? where? He constantly says that if you feel good on whatever diet you're on you shouldn't change anything.

[@MT-sq3jo]

@@Defox721 For those who feel good doing crack or smoking weeds, they should not change anything.

[@Bonedust66]

No one has all the answers. We should all experiment ourselves and be teachable instead of criticize others who are trying to help themselves and others, if possible. I think those that are in this space just want to feel their best and eat what works for us individually. Saladino seems to be open and teachable, while not getting all worked up if others choose to eat contrary to him.

[@nancywhitmore3497]

Very well said. And kind. Thank you!

[@stevenbyrnedk1]

He’s in great shape for 50 years old.

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

Beautiful nail work, Layne💅

[@anasalami1561]

@ConnieWobbles His daughter likes to paint his nails, it's adorable.

[@Nostrada-mus]

it explains his childish behavior

[@truthbetold8233]

​@@Nostrada-mus that makes no sense

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

@@anasalami1561 I'm aware of the tradition, I'm just messing with him 😝

[@Defox721]

I followed Pauls advice of eating animal products, fruit, honey and experimented with foods and kept those in my diet that didn't upset my stomach. Feel great now. He's totally upfront about everything he does, always says that his supplements are convenient but not necessary, and he always says if you feel great eating veggies and what not then keep doing that. In a world where we have microplastic in human testicles I don't think the guy advocating for meat, milk, eggs, fruit and honey is the crazy one.

[@russianpaul77]

from what i can gather, people hate that he had one opinion, evolved and updated it after finding out it wasn't working for him, being upfront about it the whole time. so yea i don't get it, people are supposed to grow and evolve to find what works best

[@RaveyDavey]

@@russianpaul77 No they hate that he monetised the whole thing and consequently gave out advice and influenced peoiple to a diet that didn't even work anyway and he could have known that it's stupid if he;d actually read the science rather than abusing the science to backup his pet theories. That and being in business with a total fake scammy shyster like Liver King.

[@robhodgman1360]

It's basically what Layne has always said. Any extreme in any directions is bad. Correlation does not equal causation. You're not going to cheat the LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS!

Is it extreme to cut out all meat?

[@Freefall347]

I would say it is extreme to cut out all animal products. Cutting out just meat is still pretty restrictive, but allows stuff like dairy and honey (maybe eggs, depending on how you define meat). Don’t get me wrong, I have a normal omnivore diet, I’m basically just saying vegans are waaay more annoying than vegetarians (some of whom even eat fish)

[@viktorgoa]

You're wrong on so many ways, just like Lame Norton. Human diet is NOT balanced, it's supposed to be the food that we can digest without any issues, i.e. muscle meat. Any plant based is not accessible and you're adding toxins. What about fruit? the issue is sugar, which is the next thing humans should not consume, we have a well working glucose production. Lame doesn't know what he's talking about, he's an influencer, not a scientist. And most nutrition based science papers are useless as there are too many factors and they quickly come to associations, which is NOT causality.

[@viktorgoa]

One more thing the first law of thermodynamics is valid for a CLOSED system, which the human body is NOT. It's not calorie in and out, it's mass in and out, calories are heat units, and a Snickers bar burnt under electric current is not what your body is doing, it is veeeery different

[@bobbybrown1258]

@viktorgoa the first law of thermodynamics is true for all systems. Don't lecture people and get basic stuff wrong. I'm an engineering graduate. In fact the first law specifically talks about doing work upon a system from outside You talk about Layne not being a scientist, but literally every large scale study. Either longitudinal, population, controlled etc shows that people who eat a wide variety of vegetables have lower incidence of cancer, better health span and lifespan, lower CVD etc etc etc. Your proof is, someone told me that humans can't digest plants so plants are bad. I suggest you look into the gut microbiome. The study of it is emerging rapidly and it helps us digest plants. Also humans have cooked for milkions of years which helps us break down plants. You are so clueless it's shameful

[@dani_abel_fit]

Imagine that, bringing carbs back in, made you feel better! Dear gawd.

[@ch.k4580]

Great Video Dr. Norton! Love how you covered it and also giving Paul a little bit of credit for changing his mind. I hope it changes to the better :-) Great work as always!

[@adribones]

Paul jumped from extreme diet to extreme diet and had deficiency issues. Wow, what a shock. Oh, and he got sick on a strict carnie diet, but is still selling The Carnivore Code on amazon. Really tells you all you need to know.

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

YES, please give him credit for admitting to his errors. Many are still in the closet about their bias regarding diet

[@Nostrada-mus]

Layne is one of them.

[@tinyjungle_]

Grifters shouldn't get credit for grifting. He knows better. He's lost the benefit of the doubt. I'd be happy to be wrong though.

[@blarghmcblarghson1903]

Why? Paul literally just admitted he was writing his "Carnivore Code" while he was suffering the negative effects of that idiotic diet, the reason he's "admitting to his errors" years after publishing the book is probably because it's not make money anymore.

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

@@blarghmcblarghson1903 thats not true.. he said he was carnivore for years, when he wrote the book, then thru his experimentation with other foods (he constantly experiments) he felt that with some fruit he felt better, so he simply changed his mind. thats what science and experimentation is for. you discover something works better, so you change your thoughts on something.

[@pamelaj76]

I agree with you. Many people are very narrow-minded and dogmatic with diet whether it's carnivore, keto, high carb, low carb, gluten free, no vegetables, etc etc. I love when they realize they are wrong, openly admit it and talk about the experience.

[@enamuossuo]

I love how it takes his anecdotes to justify his choices then when he changes his stance he still does it but also generalized to "most people"

[@Freefall347]

Yeah, Paul really comes across as assuming he is the representation of human normalcy, except normal people don’t freak out about getting pepper on their steak in the first place.

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

@@Freefall347 actually salidino has said countless times "if its working for you, stick with it" in reference to people who eat lots of plants.

[@jolewisskates4173]

Didn't you hear? If you're not hungry, world hunger doesn't exist! Also, anecdotal evidence is the most important way to perform science :) /s

[@doctormarazanvose4373]

@@jolewisskates4173 You shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard without supervision.

[@jolewisskates4173]

@doctormarazanvose4373 you clearly don't see the "/s" which means sarcasm.

[@alexhansen2102]

Wow, it's almost like we evolved to eat a bit of EVERYTHING.

[@PFirefly06]

We evolved to be ABLE to. Still doesn't mean we should eat everything, or even need to.

[@kylemckinney_22]

​@@PFirefly06who/what determines should and need

[@PFirefly06]

@@kylemckinney_22 Evolution and biology. There are tons of dietary findings in anthropology. Before the rise of agriculture, which is only 20k years old, and not enough time has passed for us to have really adapted to a mainly processed grain diet, we ate meat, fruit, roots, nuts, berries, and some grains/cereals. When you also look at availability of edible food stuffs, and the natural abundance of them, we clearly ate mostly meat mixed with whatever fruit and plant stuff (roots, seeds, nuts) was seasonally available. I am grossly oversimplifying, but in the main, I stay away from anything that hasn't existed for more than the last hundred or so years, or at least keep theh to a minimum. Surprisingly most of the veggies in the produce aisles are modern inventions. They used to be much less diverse and only used as garnish/flavor/sides. Seed oils were not mass produced. HF corn syrup wasn't added to everything, etc, etc. I admit that my approach may be completely wrong from an optimization standpoint, but I doubt it. It worked for millions of years, and our closest relatives (chimps and bonobos) also eat this way. I feel about our modern diets the way people who understand pandas look at their diet of bamboo.

[@Radjehuty]

@@PFirefly06 That's not entirely true. 20k years is actually quite a long time. It only takes a matter of a few thousand years to develop enzymes in a population as an adaptation to consume things other related animals may not. A great example is Lactose tolerance and our ability to metabolize theobromine. Both only took 3 to 5 thousand years to develop the adaptation necessary to allow us to metabolize these chemicals. Humans are incredibly successful creatures for a variety of reasons, one of them being our ability to consume quite an extreme variety of foods even by mammals' standards. 20k years is more than enough time to consider any food a healthy food group and the proof of that is the fact that the only people that were capable of thriving off those diets are the ones that lead to our existence today.

[@PFirefly06]

@@Radjehuty I wouldn't consider diabetes, endocrine disorders, crohn's disease, or diverticulitis, "thriving."

[@athiker111]

I like many people arrived at carnivore to fix many health problems that could have been prevented by avoiding a highly processed standard American diet. This has worked to reverse type 2 diabetes and a few other issues.

[@user-wl2md5kz7k]

Sugar from Fruit and processed sugar are two completely different things which means they don’t break down the same way

[@tradingmetamorphosis7197]

He is one of those guys who thinks he knows everything but changes him mind every other day

[@oliviah.44]

As always, love your work, Layne

[@Tcgrande77]

Love you Layne. Thank you for your great content and fyi, I love your nails. Your daughter did a great job 👏👏💕

[@ivanorozco4274]

Layne and Saladino represent the "Honest vs Dishonest" influencer model in the health-trends media

[@blaisecruise5037]

Paul admitted he was wrong.

[@teamrgvbodybuilding1772]

​@blaisecruise5037 after the book was released, and not just that but if you look at the timeline of his content and when he was actually getting negative effects and changing what he was doing etc (which has actually been outlined online for people to go read themselves), he was saying Carnivore was the best diet for optimal health at the same time that it eas messing him up and when he started changing what he did. Then significantly later he started changing what he said. In an interview he also basically said he didn't know any better, but the issue is that the state of science on the topic already said he was wrong at the time when he was promoting Carnivore. All the signs of a dishonest conman.

[@blaisecruise5037]

Fair enough, thanks@@teamrgvbodybuilding1772

[@blaisecruise5037]

​@@teamrgvbodybuilding1772Fair enough, thanks

[@MDL.720]

You really think reality is that black and white?

[@kathleen8092]

Shawn Baker holding on for dear life. Not many left.

[@IROK660]

Baker making big bucks claiming to be carnivore. He’s gonna ride that train as long as he can.

[@espenstoro]

They all come around eventually. It's just a matter of time.

[@randydueck6870]

Ken Berry seems pretty unwavering. But he seems a bit more "here's what I preach, it has helped a ton of people, take it or leave it". Even after seeing him as the gerd Messiah, trying carnie for a month, not working too well, then going back to a loose keto and realizing it is all kind of biased, I am STILL thinking I should go full carnivore for 90 days to see if that will actually cure my chronic gerd like he says.

[@KenWang2]

@@randydueck6870 Carnivore only works for a little bit because it relieves the Randle Cycle and that makes them feel better but then it stops working.

[@randydueck6870]

@@KenWang2 I'm not familiar with the Randall cycle. Are you specifically referring to GERD? And what are you basing that statement on? There isn't any decent study on the carnivore diet as far as I'm aware. Is that based on a theoretical mechanism or on actual empirical data?

[@gavinbrinck]

Thanks Layne ! Did you ever get back to Simon Hill on ‘your bias’ of the comprehensive protein studies ? Thanks for your work :)

[@AndresVieyraOficial]

Great video as always Dr. Layne!

[@april9337]

This video is so great. I love the america nails your daughter did so good🇺🇲👏 I continue to learn so much about logic and reason from you. I've never heard the term "asymmetric application of logic" and I'm glad you described it so well

[@jumproper8990]

I honestly don't care if he operates with malicious intent, or is just biased. We should judge people by their actions and not their intentions, and some of his rhetoric confuse people, scare people, and provoke eating disorders. I have zero respect for that man.

[@jwisor93]

You want to judge everyone solely by their actions without any regard for intent? That's a recipe for a miserable life.

[@RaveyDavey]

So HE had to feel acutely ill for him to come to the conclusion that constant, long-term ketosis probably isn't a good idea for most people?

[@adim00lah]

He eats leaves now too, I saw him putting a shit ton of rosemary in his beef patties to reduce heterocyclic amines.

[@Rpere387]

I read Layne’s book fat loss forever and something about the writing didn’t sit right with me. The way he writes just seems antagonistic and emotional, which sounds ironic considering the fact that he strongly pushes for evidence-based science in the book. But coming on the YT channel I definitely like the content a lot more 👍

[@leigh9797]

Dave Macleod (a nutritionist and successful climber) has a very long scientific video on carnivore diets that dismantles a lot of the arguments against them (including fiber). Would love to hear your thoughts on it as you two seem very similar (science first, skeptical, balanced) yet have come to different conclusions

[@Lovelyone1]

My dietician says that ketosis has its place to correct certain things but then you have to get off of it for longterm health.

[@RevolutionNTty]

Give him the credit, the guy is ok changing his mind and thats a good thing. You are the one overreacting and being very dramatical while saying data over feeling...

[@MoSec9]

He did give him credit for changing his mind. He also said that he doesn’t think Paul is malicious, but biased and too invested in the carnivore diet to be 100% straight and speak about the important side effects he had but never mentioned in the book. He’s also making a video and videos without a little attempt at being funny or silly or dramatic as you claim it to be would not be a watchable video- especially if he just comes on the give Saladino credit without adding anything. People don’t watch his videos to listen to him applauding others. You would suck at being a KZbinr guy. So, I’m not sure who’s overreacting here, him or you.

[@RaveyDavey]

If he were just some dude changing his mind, then sure. But he's not. He's a massive influencer who has a lot of people taking his advice and he's making huge profits from it. At best he's stupid and irresponsible and has no business influencing anyone. At worst he's a dishonest grifter.

[@RevolutionNTty]

@@MoSec9 wow, you took It too personal. Yeah, sure i AM the one overreacting right. Dude, he mentioned the side effects in THIS VIDEO LOL. Go seek help Bro.😂

[@JIMALAKA]

@@RevolutionNTty Nah I agree with @MoSec9 it sounds like you're the one overreacting and being very dramatical!!! 😂

[@ottovangierke1463]

​@@JIMALAKAWhat ARE you talking about? Saladino lives rent free on this guys Head for a long time while Saladino never mentioned him in his life. Thats why he so b**thurt.

[@weich1q2w]

This is easily Paul’s best take/rant he has had. He nailed it all

[@lindsaytoussaint]

If this was simply a personal journey I’d applaud him. Truly. But he pushed it out there and benefited off people believing in this carnivore thing and bolstered a whole community. Now years later “meh it’s not that serious and I don’t recommend it”. Bruh.

[@softenerguy]

I was carnivore for 2.5 years after eating a S.A.D. for a lifetime. Before that though I first got rid of processed foods, breads and most snacks and lost 30 pounds in 3 months. Then I discovered carnivore and jumped right in. At first it was pretty cool as it reduced some of my IBS symptoms, dandruff and some skin issues. I also loved the simplicity of eating carnivore. However I didn't lose any more weight, energy was low and constipation was an ongoing battle. After 2.5 years of that I started incorporating vegetables and some fruits and within just a few days felt noticeably better and movements were regular. I appreciate your video but you can't say carnivore is for everyone, and you sound like the biased one.

[@kingstund101]

What he said about fruits and the self defense chemicals makes sense though.

[@brianbadonde8700]

they're plant hermetic compounds, and many have health benefits, they're slightly toxic which triggers a beneficial effect in the body. Caffeine is poisonous to insects so they don't eat the plant yet we enjoy it in coffee tea and cocoa. it's the dose that makes the poison, and it depends on the species consuming it, cocoa has health benefits for humans, it's toxic and can kill dogs and birds, Paul is partially right but he takes it to far

[@RobCGilliam]

@@brianbadonde8700 and fruits are not generally cooked. Cooking changes the chemical makeup of foods we all know like beans and greens. On your wise point. Mushrooms have compounds that trigger immune response and in turn strengthens the immune system.

[@xxxxxx....]

It's doesn't have to make sense, it has to be true.

[@фанатКуплинова-ь1е]

@@xxxxxx.... Are you saying it isn't?

[@xxxxxx....]

@user-nz4un6se7y I agree with Layne. My point is that just because something has sense that doesn't make it true, and just because something is strange that doesn't make it wrong. Think about general relativity and quantum mechanics: do they make sense? NO (unless you have a phd). They are true? SURE (as far as we know)

[@EbonyMtofmuscle]

Layne- you've been around for A LOOOOONG time (I remember you from Muscle Mayhem) Why you don't have a million+ subscribers is nuts- Love the channel

[@gregjennings5332]

Good Video thank you Layne

[@karwask1]

Really love the new t-shirt! And, also very much appreciate your generous handling of the Paul Saladino thing. It's nice to be able to step back a little from our respective tribes and just look at what the evidence shows. Also, as always, good to know that people can change their views, and you certainly have done that in the past. With that said, I'll continue to be very annoying, by asking when you plan to address the Simon hill, proof podcast, review of your review of the new study regarding protein consumption and longevity? As I said before, even if you don't want to speak to what Simon has pointed out, at least address the challenging views of multiple followers of yours right there in the comments below the video. Thanks, as always for all you do.

[@Solidfreeman01]

2:55 "you have some muscle glycogen now..." Has Volek not shown, that muscle glycogen is the same and repleats on a keto diet in comparison to high carb?

[@snakeace0]

Yes. And in case you havent notice, Layne publicly showed that he doesnt know how the Lipid energy model works. He literally couldnt comprehend how a lean mass hyper responder can reduce LDL when eating oreos. People who think that Layne is on the forefront of nutrition, truly have no idea.

[@Solidfreeman01]

@@snakeace0 Most certainly this is not the case. Since i can clearly remember Layne talking about the Professor reducing his LDL and improving his health by reducing calories on a twinkie diet. This does not fit into the picture you paint at all. But yes. He is very biased towards carbs. Liked to neglect the effects of long term adaptation to ketosis. Was basically throwing around Burkes study as if it was the word of god. Cuz... you know... DATA. Otherwise its feefis. Who the heck would care about countless athletes and people in general clearly describing, that their wellbeing needed months to normalize while training when in ketosis, right? And now this stuff with muscle glycogen, which does not make sense. And so on. But, yeah. He still knows his stuff.

[@Az_Eaz]

Been a fan of the channel for a long time but, as an audio engineer, the audio quality shits me to no end. 😆 (I've mentioned it a few times)

[@nl3712]

i am 50% deaf and the audio made me wish i'd lose the remaining half too...

[@KenWang2]

Paul hasn’t been Carnivore for at least 3 years already. Why they keep making videos about it

[@boyunderbridge]

Always remember Paul put out a video claiming he had no idea LK was on gear... Then deleted it.

[@RaveyDavey]

Oh come on! It would have been almost impossible to tell! 🤣

[@mspatricia3151]

Debate Bart Kay

[@888jucu]

Bart is an even bigger clown being pedantic on semantics most of the time

[@TheRainmanisback]

I've been eating mostly meat and fruits for years before it was a thing... I havde tried other diet approach, but this is the one that keeps me strong, lean, and most important healthy with almost no inflammation. Grains are a no fly zone for me 99% of the time

[@odeonhealingfrequencies2743]

So basically he did all this to sell books. Scammer

[@miamidolphinsfan]

you got it

[@marcdaniels9079]

One among MANY 😮

[@star-warsien]

No, otherwise he'd still be peddling the same message... What you are saying doesn't make sense.

[@odeonhealingfrequencies2743]

@@star-warsien he purposefully waited until his book was published, sold copies then changed his tune. He knew what he was doing

[@rachaelalbanese1851]

Hi Layne! I appreciate ALL the science you bring to the masses in terms of health, wellness, fitness, etc. I am learning so much from you. I do believe Paul is genuine and believes what he preaches. He admits and definitely walks back things he has said and practiced in the past. He is learning, just like the rest of us- something we all should humbly admit, in my opinion. Science, opinions and the way in which we live our lives is always changing. Evolving is a part of the human existence. Humans are complex. At the end of the day, what works for some may not work for others- dietary, lifestyle, workout styles, etc. What are your individual goals? I believe many (or few) make such choices based on science AND what intuitively makes sense. Listening to what our bodies (symptoms) are trying to communicate with us is just as valid (in my opinion) as what the science of the times is telling us. Thank you again for all of your content. Appreciate you!

[@MT-sq3jo]

@@rachaelalbanese1851 If Paul is genuinely admitting his past mistakes, then he should halt the sales of his Carnivores book and offer refunds.

[@rachaelalbanese1851]

@@MT-sq3jo good point

[@what.the.bleep.do.i.eat.]

@@MT-sq3jo Exactly. I don't care if someone changes their mind about their diet or lifestyle. I do care when that person has put out a bunch of paid content (whether that's videos or books) claiming to have found "THE answer" but then changes their mind later after they've suckered a bunch of people and made a lot of money. Paul was only fully carnivore for a couple of years, which means he wrote "The Carnivore Code" very early in that dietary journey yet had the audacity to not only claim it was the perfect diet, but hasn't updated the book or pulled it from publication now that he's no longer eating that way.

[@noedgetoadream]

He adopted a more Ray Peat approach well over two years ago. You're a little late bro. But hey, anything to get likes. Saladino=Ratings. And hey, why don't you look as good as he does? You look kinda soft Layne.

[@DarkoFitCoach]

I love how saladino is now arguining perfectly against his own position that he held for a decade 😂

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

he was never quiet about it.. he likes to experiment and one of his experiments was to introduce fruit and honey.. and he felt better so he kept doing it and was totally upfront about it.

[@DarkoFitCoach]

@@Jojo-o6o6w so his whole gaffe of sugars are bad and ketosis for life and its the BEST thing to do....he all changed it now 😆

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

@@DarkoFitCoach no, he experimented with fruit after being 100% carnivore and he felt better so he kept eating fruit. he continues to experiment with foods actually. He's never hid any of it and makes videos about what hes doing all the time. i dont understand why everyone is acting like he was "caught" not being carnivore like its some big deal

[@DarkoFitCoach]

@@Jojo-o6o6w well its a pretty big change since he was making super super strong penultimate claims about carnivore and now he is doing what he said it was absolutely NOT done. So thats why

[@Ash-os7fc]

@@Jojo-o6o6whow does it taste?

[@lordcoe1]

It’s interesting how Lane does not criticize Huberman!!!

[@eversor10]

The grifter is switiching directions, what?

[@eversor10]

@wrestlingjudoms1302 you actually defending a confirmed grifter lmao

[@JGComments]

Imagine trying ANYTHING for 2 years and then asserting that based on your personal experience, you had discovered that it was optimal for all humans at all times. Lol.

[@hiker-uy1bi]

Paul strikes me as a guy who’s successfully monetized his dietary idiosyncrasies. Just because Paul gets eczema from broccoli doesn’t mean it’s an unhealthy food.

[@hiker-uy1bi]

@@paulc5389 Paul’s problem is he thinks everyone is like him.

[@Defox721]

​@@hiker-uy1bi Nonsense, he says all the time eat whatever makes you feel good

[@hiker-uy1bi]

@@Defox721 I’ve watched him for years. He wrote a book about how plants are bad and has a series of videos describing a variety of healthy foods as “BS”.

[@hiker-uy1bi]

@@Defox721 Nope. He wrote a book about how plants are bad. He ignores human research and focuses on rat studies and other inferior lines of evidence to make his points. Has a series of shorts describing various healthy foods as bad.

[@Defox721]

@@hiker-uy1bi Oh because you can't have opinions unless you fit them into every video and short on KZbin. I consumed maybe 5% of his content and heard him say 'if you thrive on veggies, good, but if you have problems give my diet a shot' about 100 times

[@jonathantrevino9928]

I naturally gravitate towards eating beef, lots of fruits, some milk and yogurt, and honey. I’ve never enjoyed many vegetables other than bell peppers and broccoli. Occasionally I’ll have rice and beans as well. I just eat what I feel like when I feel like it and I’ve maintained my weight for a few years now.

[@danielswart5168]

500 years ago the earth was flat, 200 years ago the sun revolved around the earth, two years ago people should only eat meat, imagine what we will learn in another two years.

[@Jordy-927]

Buddy, ask some people, and all those things are still correct. 😂😂😂

[@ashbery76]

Ancient Greek's would disagree.

[@RsFunAndGuides]

Love you and your content!!!!

[@jamescox2634]

To be fair, (to be faaaaaaiiiiir IYKYK) Saladino isn't as disingenuous as Layne thinks. He started having issues with carnivore and reintroduced fruits and honey years after the book. I think he misspoke when describing the timeline of when he started having issues with it.

[@star-warsien]

exactly, its disingenuous. Also Layne isn't some saint and gets things wrong too.

[@888y8z]

Maybe a guy named SALADi"no" is just destined oppose veggies. But hey, keep experimenting and evolving, Paul. And thanks Layne for all your insights!

[@zachdavis4138]

How dare someone evolve and change their view points over time.

[@DTV_Matt_M_w_M]

I love these ones where he rips Salidino.. that dude is the worst.. absolutely love it 🤣

[@christophermckellar]

Paul's passion is learning, growing, and telling others about it. Layne's passion is his ego and protecting it.

[@ve_rb]

Paul’s passion is grifting

[@christophermckellar]

@@ve_rb Clearly you don't listen to his content. "If you are thriving, don't change anything!" "Fresh organs are preferred, but if you can't get them or prefer not to then you can try Heart & Soil". He has to support the content somehow and I have never seen anything out of line in terms of your accusation. Further, he's humble and highly respectful of his critics. Maybe you disagree with Paul's perspective, but he's a good human. Layne is constantly verbally attacking many people with differing opinions, continually brags about his academic and lifting accomplishments. Arrogance!

[@ve_rb]

@@christophermckellar Saladino ducks anyone that properly challenges his positions, and cherry-picks data with intentional disregard for the evidence hierarchy so he can appeal to small minds of the gullible masses. I don’t care about Layne.

[@RaveyDavey]

@@christophermckellar "He has to support the content somehow" LOL, the guy as gotten rich off this nonsense.

[@christophermckellar]

Your synopsis confirms my point that you don't listen to his content, only parrot what Layne says about him. It's all good, you don't have to like everyone!

[@TomIsTrying]

How can you trust someone who says THIS IS THE ONLY WAY - but then changes THE ONLY WAY every few years?

[@TomIsTrying]

1:33 💥

[@pegatrisedmice]

Paul in 10 years will be like: "So anyway i realised i had some nutrient and fiber deficiencies so I added some whole grain, pulses and veggies into my diet, and I reduced my fatty meat intake to reduce my LDL..." and when he reaches Mediterranean diet he'll call it the plant based carnivore diet or something lol

[@doctormarazanvose4373]

At least he is trying to solve the riddle of nutrition. What are you doing about it? Probably stuffing your face full of Doritos.

[@pegatrisedmice]

​@@doctormarazanvose4373this is the dumbest comment I've ever seen on KZbin

[@JGComments]

How all keto/carnivores sound to me: I don’t technically need to earn money to survive today, so therefore I do not want have ANY money, thank you.

[@BlackJesusChrist666]

🤣 just like Thomas Delauer with his keto/fasting grift

[@Fresh_N_Fit]

He stopped eating strict carnivore YEARS ago. Where have you been? Old information.

[@andream9977]

Human randomized control trials!!

[@johnjaguar89]

How is Paul alive after all of the EMF exposure from that studio equipment!?

[@cheliospanama9786]

Great Video! Thank you 🔥👏💪🫶

[@CLPRPSD]

Why would you write a book on something when you haven’t even experienced the process yet? This smacks of extremism as well as making a quick buck off of a trend. I appreciate that he is now providing his experience, sharing the negative aspects, but how many people may have been misled in the process?

[@crys_tlyaw]

Layne…. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put an end to the whole cyanocobalamin (synthetic B12 found in Celsius and most other energy drinks) is made from cyanide/sludge/human waste. Is it or is it not??? Everyone please like this comment so he sees it!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@crys_tlyaw]

Gary Brecka and Dr Eric Berg have both done videos saying this👆🏻

[@derekn3336]

I have not looked into this, so I’m asking a sincere question: Has Layne torn into Shawn Baker the way he gets into Paul…?

[@happynessadict]

lesson here don't do what these influencers tell you its all just a money maker

[@viclarson2442]

Love your content and shirts. Your daughter did a fabulous job!

[@user-nl2kt9jc9p]

2:37 that’s really a bad argument and surely someone like you would know that saying “oh yeah but there are people who do this and are fine” is not a valid counter argument…

[@rachel-mob87]

It’s become very culty but the carnivore diet is good to “reset” and to see what foods you’re sensitive too when you start reincorporating foods back in. Especially when you have auto immune diseases. But not everyone has to go on or will feel well on a 80-100%meat based diet.

[@usandmexico]

I tend to ignore fitness influencers, but was this Saladino guy associated with that weird Liver King?

[@ColbyNye]

Great stuff as always!

[@drewmccu258]

Pure reason. Love this channel. Sadly, crazies get invited on far more podcasts it seems.

[@wolfenhauz]

Loved the point about your daughter and if they don't like it, "come lift more than you" as a strong af girl dad I really enjoyed that lmfao

[@SKINNY_BRUH]

I eat a balanced diet with veggies,fruits,eggs, chicken,oats, coconut oil,honey, artificial sweeteners,milk products,nuts and seeds. I avoid soy products as I'm allergic to soy. Food selection is important in designing a good diet ✔️

[@look-into]

I am unsurprised by Paul's progress towards discovering that he is probably only intolerant of a few plant foods, maybe just one. The usual suspects are gluten, avenin (oat) and nightshades. Muscle glycogen seems to be important for electrolyte balance and hydration, as it is 3/4 water. When these carnivore dieters deplete their glycogen, they start craving salt to make up the difference. As you say, glycogen is good for energy as well.

[@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441]

Great video. Im actually fully planted based (11yrs now) but felt welcome to chime in 😊. Paul has certainly been through some changes (as all passionate people tend to do) . That being said if you loom back through Ray Peats work on metabolism and higher protein its very similar to what Paul has coined Animal Based (or Joe Rogan coined it that). Ray Peat spoke of high Metabolism through sufficient carbohydrates and limiting fat to around 30-35% of total calories as a maximum (which would be more balanced macro). I think his message was shooting more for 20-25% so lower fat- but not super lowfat. Including plenty of protein and carbs kept Thyroid and Electrolytes high and the T3 levels from what ive read was all Ray Peats Influence. Ray Peat used to speak of the Randle Cycle well before many others popularised it. Cheers 😊.

[@JOHNNY34A]

This is nothing more than a new way to sell more books and supplements.

[@portalhaus7510]

Paul found Ray Peat's work...

[@boxshreeg1079]

Layne did you get bullied when you were a kid?

[@sgullion7753]

And he added back fruit juice to his diet? Surely I misheard.