BMW M140i vs Porsche Cayman 987 on track at Bedford Autodrome

[@njcdevelopments3765]

Great video. I’m taking my 2.7 to Bedford in October so this has been a useful watch to see what the gearing and layout is like in advance. Just going to enjoy and explore the balance of the car.

[@myogg]

Even though the 140 looks capable of a faster lap time, it looks heavy and cumbersome. The Porsche is the one to be driving

[@one40i19]

Loads of understeer from the 140i? Cold tyres? Or natural balance of Goodyear’s?

[@roadreg1820]

It’s an M140i.. it’s not a propper M car. It was me driving, and you do get a bit of understeer, sadly.

[@AntoineFRS]

@@roadreg1820 That's why if I sell my Focus RS Mk3, I would like an M2. By the way very nice power slide at 3:55

[@roadreg1820]

@@AntoineFRS thanks!! Yeah you can really see the limits of the 140’s chassis here. Can’t really compare it to a purpose built, light-weight mid engined sports car, especially with a Mark behind the wheel. Nevertheless, still managed to put a decent gap between us. Had there of been less traffic, I wouldn’t have been visible on camera anymore. The M2 is the one you want for track work, but gotta give the M140i some credit for value for money and how fun it is to drive :)

[@one40i19]

@@roadreg1820 I have one and don’t get that much understeer. Leads me to think it’s the Goodyear’s building in safety understeer

[@roadreg1820]

@@one40i19 it’s possible, but I cannot corner as fast as the Cayman. It’s just basic physics. I’m on B8’s and Eibach’s but it still rolls allot as you can see, and I don’t have LCA’s to increase camber.

[@sdgsdgsdg54]

does the temp gauge arrow move to the right half of the scale sometimes?

[@colinw1591]

Looks to be a great balanced chassis. Only thing I notice is large gap between 2nd and 3rd gear... don't know if you feel that on track....

[@MarkCup70]

Oh I do, I do, I do, I do! There's a right hander after the hairpin left at the end of the long two part straight (at 2:30) where 3rd's too long so it doesn't pull enough, and 2nd is way too short hence going into it in 2nd and shifting up to 3rd mid corner. That one exposes the gearing compromise.

[@jwb4bb]

Any chance of doing a video on your camera/audio setup. I’d love to make videos like these, but it seems like a steep learning curve.

[@monkeymagic4555]

At least your friend can drive........

[@dylyo1]

Imagine those Cayman are akin to a well-balanced chef's blade. Was impressed the 140 could get moving but seems like it takes extra abuse that eventually turns into more $$$$.

[@nascher2306]

M140i is a sleeper :-)

[@xZiMinDaveyy]

The 140i needs swaybars badly... and a coilover set!

[@bigsluggy]

Is Lewis whom is usually in your videos as a passenger??

[@craiga3277]

You should upgrade to a M140i 👀😂

[@MarkCup70]

🤣

[@craiga3277]

@@MarkCup70 only kidding, it’s not always about lap times.

[@jayrave4]

He definitely shouldn’t have downgraded to an old, entry level Porsche.

[@blademanx]

Get the 987.2 S fully loaded

[@traditionalwadoryukarate8571]

No one wants to embarrass themselves with a BMW badge on their car 🤣🤣🤣

[@akent46]

Shame the manuals ratios are so long

[@mcgherkinstudios]

These dry sessions have been great to watch, it shows just how well poised for track use the Cayman is compared to the Beemer, and it really does compliment the smoothness of your driving style. Really enjoyable to watch that. That's on PS2s as well! Imagine what pace it would have on PS4s or even something like an R888R. I know why you're running the PS2s, and outright pace isn't the point, but nobody seems to have told you that!

[@roadreg1820]

The Cayman is litrally flat though the corners, the M140i rolls and has a slight tendency to wash out. My old 330ci track car would have been a better match in the corners.

[@mcgherkinstudios]

@@roadreg1820 Yeah, I've always put the M140i down as a great road car over a track car, the softness and travel in the suspension is useful and good on the road where there's lots of undulation and inconsistency, but on track it's just not suited. Looks like you were having a lot of fun too though!

[@roadreg1820]

@@mcgherkinstudios I certainly was having a lot of fun.. 😀

[@imprezaworks]

Should have kept your bm mark 🙈

[@MarkCup70]

Why?

[@blademanx]

987.2 3.4 is the only Cayman id get. Especially coming from a 370Z

[@TheIneption]

10.3 mpg 😭, I know I know mpg on track does not matter. M140 is just so special in its own right

[@Lou-f]

Today’s lesson, match your break pads to the colour of your car. Got it 👍

[@ianparker6182]

Or learn how to spell Brakes 😁

[@ddbuilds3038]

Nice

[@neil5242]

Who is driving that 140? Would destroy a Cayman 2.7.

[@roadreg1820]

Me. Was backing off when I was behind as I don’t like getting too close to the car in front. When I was In front I kept getting stuck behind traffic, which is why he cought up.

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@roadreg1820 I thought I recognised the car, great driving Reg to keep up with the Porker (car not Marks physique), and indeed pass him.

[@prometheustv2084]

@@DjNikGnashers I got m140i 4 days ago blue one auto box with 34k miles shadow edition with pro nav screen 2017 for 21 grand

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@prometheustv2084 Awesome matey ! Same colour as mine then, except mine has the standard nav (to save weight obviously) ;-))

[@prometheustv2084]

@@DjNikGnashers gonna buy some cosmetic bits for it, rear deffuser, lip spoiler front splitter side skirts got the black 140i badge today through the post, that blue is the best colour I reckon, the car is a weapon, I bricked it driving it back to london from Devon put it comfort mode for most of the journey

[@DJAMAJD]

If you put a B58 in that Porsche it would fly 😂 😎

[@alexandre_w4135]

La M140i plus performante grâce à un bien meilleur moteur, moins chère et beaucoup plus polyvalente que la Porsche Cayman 2,7 !

[@MarkCup70]

d'accord, le m140i est beaucoup plus performant en tant que polyvalent, cependant, pour moi, il manquait la sensation que je voulais, d'où le changement pour le Cayman ... qui était en fait 1000 £ moins cher 😁👍

[@alexandre_w4135]

@@MarkCup70 Thank you for your answer !

[@MarkCup70]

tu es plus que le bienvenu Alexandre, merci d'être passé

[@alexandre_w4135]

@@MarkCup70 I bought my M140i xDrive in 2017 and love it very much, so I'm not entirely objective in my reviews ! 😊

[@BEN-bw8cf]

140i go faster only on straigh, for fun on corners it's better cayman 2.7 with no doubt. With 3.4 you can beating him without problems, and with cayman s 987.2 it's even better

[@jameswrightson744]

Not quite... the car can handle corners very well if driven correctly, around 500nm of torque helps keep the car line aligned fairly well... A better driver on the Porsche would/should had won as that beemer driver was quality.

[@blademanx]

the 3.4 320 hp at 1375kg vs stock 140i. Caymans lighter by 200kg and more useful in the corners. Handling not the best on the bm either.

[@tracktimevideos5164]

This is definitely a car that needs more engine.....even the 3.4 feels like it needs more.

[@MarkCup70]

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. To think that is to miss the point of this car entirely. I honestly don't care how quick it is.