Bombshell Filing Implicates Odin Followers in Delphi Murders | Richard Allen Case Analysis & Update

This video answers the question: Can I offer an update to the “Delphi Murders” case including the Odin conspiracy theory?
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[@lizzeltired2155]

The fact that the police did not collect the sticks or the part of the tree with the blood as evidence is a huge problem

[@nielgregory108]

They also worship Odin.

[@headishome8452]

​@@nielgregory108it doesn't matter who/what you worship....it is your actions in your life. There are so called Christians I wouldn't ever be alone with!

[@meowmirrr]

Yeah. I don't think they would be THAT incompetent... it seems like there's CLEAR, INTENTIONAL botching of this case by police.

[@eadweard.]

What makes you think they didn't collect it?

[@ceilconstante640]

@@headishome8452 unfortunately there's a LOT of people who call themselves Christians that are Narscissts. Narscissts is a modern word that describes the traits of Evildoers. People think they're safe because they met someone in Church when nothing could be farther from the truth!

[@hp2474]

My biggest problem with the Odin theory is the probability. The probability of being sacrificed by Odinities is extremely low, but what is the probability a teen girl is sacrificed by some random cult the same day she was communicating with an online predator?

[@hearme119]

The American Guard do participate in criminal activities! I consider them an extremist group, not a religion!

[@ThepupsnameisBrian]

ZERO. THAT's the probability. Do I believe the Klines and/or other child predators were involved? Oh, HELL yeah. I never thought RA acted alone. Do I believe in this dumb fairy tale cooked up by the defense? Abso-freakin-lutely not.

[@lostandfound5145]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@SatumainenOlento]

Ah, that is... *that makes so much sense!* I did not know the latest information. That sounds much more logical. This was made by somebody who is experienced in this type of thing. He knew what he was doing. No DNA left on the scene.

[@johnpatzold8675]

True, but then there's the Lori Vallow Daybell case. Although I think the religion stuff was less the motivator than pure narcissism and greed, but who knows. Crazy beliefs make people do crazy things

[@tmajcan94]

My daughter is roughly the same age as Liberty and Abigail and what happened is a parent's worst nightmare. May they forever rest in peace and get the justice they deserve. Thanks for the update Dr. Grande.

[@markmike7933]

they are dead. There's no "rest". They no longer exist except in minds...so there is no "peace" or "non peace". They will never know if justice was served or not. What's important is that someone capable of killing needs to be taken off the streets. Whoever it is

[@esteemedmortal5917]

I think you can control two people fairly easily if you have a gun or other deadly weapon; if the two people are close, threatening to kill one if the other tries to run is usually incentive to comply.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

A grown man can definitely control two preteen girls especially with a weapon.

[@ericmartindale4333]

Agreed. Especially two 13 year old girls.

[@wildmountainthyme4123]

I agree. I believe that either Richard Allen committed the murders, or he led them down the hill to someone else who killed them. Justice for Abby and Libby, and I hope it comes soon.

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

they were killed with a sharp object like a knife. and not shot which would have made it possible .

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

@@wildmountainthyme4123 listen to the Doc. nothing connects RA to the crime of murder. nothing

[@rullvox5912]

The inept Delphi Police Department was never equipped to solve this, nor did it have experienced homicide detectives to handle this case. They should have secured the crime scene and asked the FBI to help them on the very day the girls bodies were found. Now I'm worried that the case has been irreparably botched and Libby and Abbie will never get any justice....😡

[@markmike7933]

it's a shame because a lot of small town depts DO call the FBI or neighboring larger city detectives. This needs to be done ANY time the situation is overwhelming to a local dept

[@anotherfishinthesea8660]

The FBI was there when the girls were found.

[@reefshadow1]

What? That's not what happened though. The FBI WAS involved and was most likely at least partially responsible for the errors that led to the misclassification of the first Allen interview. He CALLED the tip line saying he was in the area and was assigned to be interviewed by someone who was not even a detective. The whole reason this happened is there were too many cooks in the kitchen too early, doing too many different things.

[@rullvox5912]

@@reefshadow1⟸🢢 Troll.

[@ThepupsnameisBrian]

Although I DO believe RA is involved-somehow, some way- I absolutely agree with you. HOWEVER, you have to understand Delphi is a very tiny town in a rural state. How much experience do you think they had dealing with a case of this magnitude? No, I'm not simping for the police-I agree, they should have let the "big guns" in from the beginning. That doesn't mean, however, that the IN state police is run amok with Odinists, either.

[@lga5746]

What a mess… Such distress for family members. 😢

[@78twood]

One thing I do know. The prosecution has evidence we don’t have knowledge of yet. Sounds like the defense is throwing out everything they can hoping to create reasonable doubt away from Richard

[@lizzeltired2155]

How do you know?

[@jeanniesmith3356]

Perhaps the prosecution should have said we have dna and other evidence it was R.A besides just bringing up an unspent bullet.

[@TheMattTrakker]

Sure they do.

[@uffda3937]

@@jeanniesmith3356 why? Just to appease the public? They have no reason to release that information until the trial.

[@JosephSastreShowsYou]

@@uffda3937 the prosecution is legally obligated to divulge that information, should it exist, to the defense. If they had more evidence the defense team should have it by now. This suggests that none exists. The prosecution will now have to divulge any evidence they are hidden and explain why they are withholding it because it is presumptively illegal for them to do so. Google "criminal discovery laws" and "Brady violations." We do not have trial by surprise in the American justice system.

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

The hysteria over this alleged "Odinism" is incredibly irritating. I've read the document composed by the defense, it's absurd. The "connections" between these Odinists and the case are profoundly flimsy. It's laughable, in my opinion. What bothers me the most is- this ridiculous conspiracy is a result of the defense trying to get attention drawn away from their client. _It's not the result_ of objective investigators trying to solve the case regardless where it leads. The defense has one single job: to get their client off. Hence, "Odinism". Way too many media entities are treating this conspiracy as if it was a result of legitimate investigation. It wasn't. It's barely relevant nonsense strung together by defense attorneys bending over backwards to get the heat off their client. In so many words, it's stupid.

[@KoolT]

I believe he did it

[@truckinfam2207]

He did it. Look at his dieting

[@TheMattTrakker]

The police believed it was Odinism until some professor they now can't find/remember said nahh. Sounds like some pretty objective investigators to me.

[@moomyung9231]

I actually know Norse mythology well. It's disgusting to try to claim there is any relation. It's closer to a Greek or Roman ritual, they can claim that next.

[@parakeetn]

The prosecutions case against Richard Allen is flimsy and laughable

[@Emm-wi2lu]

Great video! I like how the atmosphere on camera is not loud and flashy like many other crime channels are, but instead quiet and informative

[@purplerain2314]

That's the only way I like it as well. I also like how he doesn't play segments of 911 calls or parts of interrogations. Just quiet and straightforward.

[@tomjacobson7623]

The man caught on video on the bridge by the girls is almost certainly the killer. Something I find troubling about this case is that, as far as I know, nobody interviewed publicly on the news that actually knew Richard Allen has come out and identified him as the man in the video. Family members, neighbors, friends, and coworkers should all be able to look at that video and say "gee, I can't believe it, but that's definitely Richard. He has that same coat, hat, even the little belt bag is his." I haven't seen one person who actually knew him come out and say something like this.

[@black.cake1]

Crazy right? This investigation was a complete mess feom the beginning. I hope they have dna tying him to the scene. Otherwise he might walk away a free man.

[@nicolesweere4182]

That's such an interesting point, I've wondered where the character witnesses are? To say he's a good guy, bad guy, or neutral? Did he really just wake up one morning and decide to slaughter two girls?

[@danielahoti4109]

Excellent assessment, I was wondering, too. Nobody "recognised" him and his very specific unusual gait and voice! Very suspect in my eyes. I so hope the justice for this horrible murder will be served. ❤ from Germany

[@TWH442]

Didnt he tell some sort of officer the day after the murders that he was on the bridge and dressed like bridge guy. He was never caught because they lost his file or something as I remember

[@terrybahnsen1187]

@@TWH442 bingo. He told a DNR officer.

[@sydebby1271]

Amazing how you managed to make sense of that hundred page memo.

[@evonne315]

Seriously I read it too its a piece of garbage. So unprofessional and an embarrassment for whomever wrote it.

[@daynasafranek7807]

Why did nobody know who he was? He admitted he was there after the crime. He was in the video. It’s a SMALL town. They were looking for this mysterious “bridge guy”… they knew all along.

[@rebeccamassal5646]

@@daynasafranek7807Apparently it’s a cult.

[@tessaducek5601]

​@@daynasafranek7807I lived in a town of three thousand. Over weight bearded hillbillies look pretty much a like! Being there does not mean guilt. If police zero in on one person they are criticized for having tunnel vision. If they take their time they are criticized for being lazy! Can't win in the eyes of the public.

[@Libbathegreat]

@@tessaducek5601 Yep, admitting to being there definitely doesn't mean admitting guilt, especially since the police had plenty of (wildly conflicting) witness statements. Park seems to have been busy as hell that day.

[@loiskondo8349]

These cases are always so tragic. It is made worse for the families by not having closure! Thank you Dr. Grande for your careful look into this horrific case!

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

I can't imagine the animosity and frustration the families must have. The police bungled this investigation. I think that some jurisdictions get so focused on capturing ANY killer, even if it is the wrong one, that once they latch on to a decent suspect, that they will just run for it rather than keeping options open that they could be more or a different killer. The elected officials want to come off being heroes to 'get this killer off the streets and protect our good citizens' that they really don't care if justice is served. Just review the Gainesville College Murders and you'll see that they brought in two other mentally disturbed men saying they did the slayings because it was a college and they didn't want students (money) fleeing out the door thinking there is a killer running around.

[@nmartin5551]

And I would add there is no such thing as closure when a loved one is lost. All you get is more information. The hole in one’s heart and mind is never closed.

[@christyb2912]

The girls were cross-dressed and posed etc and no DNA found? Maybe I'm watching too many crime dramas, but it seems odd.

[@gorelash9056]

It's extremely odd. Nowadays we have touch DNA. It should barely even be possible to commit a crime of any kind without leaving some DNA anymore, let alone a crime like this.

[@poindextertunes]

its a coverup for sure

[@Sebastian-km9qx]

What I think might have happened was the killer(s) had a bucket or something like that & drenched the bodies with the river water.. so they ABSOLUTLY knew they left no DNA behind. That would been the smart move. It’s very difficult not to leave ANY DNA especially after killing two girls viciously. Maybe he/they wore clothes but still even one hair could have fallen out off the killers hair. I really don’t know. Unless they had a vacuum there😂 & just sucked all the evidence up with it

[@icebergs411]

Yeah, it's funny how they also didn't photograph the unspent bullet at the crime scene, and then had the lie and lie and lie to get a search warrant to go get the gun, you see where I'm going here, and it's all b******* they set up, Richard, they set him up. Big time, the cops are full of s***There wasn't a bullet there. They did a bunch of stuff, and they lied to him and told him they're gonna put him in the electric chair and stuff, and then. And they they have the guards who are with the odin Colt gun, and you better confess to it, or we're gonna kill you in here, so everybody wants to come trying to kill Richard, right? Everybody's trying to kill Richard, and what's richard supposed to do, hes told like well, if I confess maybe I can live or something like that you know, so when he talks to his wife on the phone from prison, oh, guess you stand and right there. Oh, the guards, the odin Colt guards. Yeah, we can see where this is going. Is all f****** b*******This guy has been framed. It just so happens that the guys from Rushville look exactly like the guys in the sketches, a big fat guy with a big fat guy, you know, a beard g. He sounds exactly like him, too, whenever they caught up to him and had him say the same words sounded exactly like the guy on the bridge, it's kind of weird, didn't it? Yeah, I guess what's what kind of car are those people associated with an old 65 looking Comet 63 or 62 or who knows what year, but they are there are suspects and they aint Richard Allen. And besides all that, why aren't they looking for a guy in a tan jacket? Who was muddy who was seen whose car was described as the comment wh? Aren't they just looking for that guy? Why don't we just stop and go right to that? Why isnt that guy being brought in? Oh, wait, he kind of was he kind of did confess to some stuff? Oh gee but they discarded him as a suspect OKey dokey I can see where we're going here.... railroad the patsy.

[@icebergs411]

​@@Sebastian-km9qxKilled elsewhere and dragged through river unclothed perhaps, then after odin ritual a hasty attempt to re-cloth them fails as swapped clothing didnt fit one, etc.

[@Sunshine-un5ww]

I was living a few miles away when these poor kids were murdered. I really despise that people criticized the parents. They were very responsible parents the town is very safe and the trail they were on is very safe.

[@PatriotsOfWash]

Sounds like it

[@adrienne4091]

If you're white

[@joeyshabbadoo]

@@adrienne4091 found the splc bot

[@luciddreamwalking4203]

That bridge 🌉 though! It gives me instant anxiety! 😮 I would be besides myself if I as a parent knew that they were intending on walking across it. I'm sure it may have been a common occurrence, but I would forbid it! That would have been my first fear when receiving the news that the girls were missing... Unfortunately in this case it would be far worse. 😢

[@sophialapalme4945]

Nowhere is truly safe. Parents could be criticized for sending kids to school. But it’s the killers we should criticize. The parents couldn’t possibly know. Living without their babies is a lifetime of pain, and assigning blame to them is even worse.

[@Mindy-r2s]

We have to wait and see what they found at Richard's home raid. Plus, he certainly could overtake 2 young girls with a gun and intimidation by himself.

[@mariedouce7636]

Well, apparently they didn’t find any DNA or electronic evidence linking him to the crime. It appears that what they found is gun that they matched to an unspent bullet from the crime scene by comparison of “chamber markings” - or in other words, diddly squat.

[@headcreeps5738]

It would be extremely difficult for one man to control both girls at the same time. He essentially only had one arm to do it with…his other arm was (allegedly) holding the pistol.

[@headcreeps5738]

No human being is gonna wait around to be next in line to get their throat slit. As soon as the first girl was being killed the other girl would’ve bolted for her life…in my opinion.

[@KoolT]

They found evidence under his BURN barrel in his yard

[@Kim-cj5cz]

They found the outfit the bridge guy was wearing in his closet along with the jacket knives and a gun this has this has already been knowledge so interesting to me that the outfit he was wearing was in his closet

[@jadebinkshaw]

Feels weird to be this early to a Dr. Grande video 🥴

[@katie3657]

I know, same here

[@egomod]

it feels OG

[@TheJhndarwin]

First show I look for every morning. Also his soothing voice helps me fall asleep

[@pointlesspapi6526]

Why is every top comment on Todd’s videos just kissing his ass. Talk about the substance instead of “look at me I watch dr grande!! Notice me Dr!!”

[@jadebinkshaw]

@@pointlesspapi6526 tbf I didn’t think this would get many likes, I’m just normally not early to his uploads 😬 it’s not that deep

[@manewland1]

I've been following this case almost entirely through your videos and appreciate this latest update; the story is getting stranger and stranger. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.

[@LionessHeart578]

From the beginning, investigators made crucial errors especially the puzzling two different male composites. Now, there is this. Whether, this guy is guilty or not is certainly now more. questionable. Completely agree with your assessment Dr Grande.

[@davidschaadt3460]

The Police really botched everything from the start. And I think they were/are just LAZY and don't want to be bothered investigating this case and just want it to go away. Public pressure matters

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

@@davidschaadt3460I think they where just in over there heads.

[@lindagroot8556]

Allen was framed. He is innocent

[@MegaTinni]

​@@lindagroot8556Linda, eat dirt

[@sandispady9058]

Too very different sketches is a huge red flag. Obviously different age brackets as well.

[@debbiebowles7001]

Thank you for the professional, respectful way you presented this particular case that remains so heinous and disturbing to all of us these many years. You're appreciated very much.

[@Brandibb]

When the case goes to trial I hope we see that they did a better job investigating this than what we are currently seeing......

[@anotherfishinthesea8660]

So you have seen the investigation files?

[@SCSJiuJitsu260]

@@anotherfishinthesea8660perhaps you’ve forgotten why we are discussing the Richard Allen trial in 2023 instead of 2017………

[@Libbathegreat]

I'm not hopeful. That casing having "cycled through" his gun is weak sauce. I spoke to a forensic ballistics expert about this when the PC affidavit came out last year and his summation was "I hope they have something more compelling than that". The fact the casing was apparently under some leaves and they had to dig it out of the ground also doesn't sound like it was dropped the day of the killings. If Richard Allen was there and knew he'd dropped it, he'd have to be the dumbest criminal in the world to bury it at the scene instead of taking it away with him.

[@RainyDay6913]

@@Libbathegreatexactly! I call BS!

[@mobiusbelts3607]

@@LibbathegreatWhy are you assuming he knew he dropped the casing?

[@bobx6565]

There is one guy in the picture on the bridge. They have the guy's voice. Can they do a voice analysis? The police botched this BIG TIME. It is difficult to know what information reported is legitimate. There seems to be a lot we don't know.

[@SHEEVENTINDY]

I bet this will come out in court.

[@RainyDay6913]

Crooked corrupt evil ppl ! I hope they all go down!

[@Sebastian-km9qx]

If RA is really involved his lawyers won’t let that happen.. & if the prosecutors know he’s really not the guy then they won’t even bring that up to the judge. Even if they could I donno how it would work. I’ve never seen someone in the court room do something like that

[@debbiehoyt9018]

Botched on purpose

[@pamcornelius9122]

His defense team is doing their job by trying to create reasonable doubt. This theory reeks of desperation.

[@mariedouce7636]

Does it? Holder’s son was dating Abby Williams. He has a verifiable interest in Odinism - his daily posts about runes from around the time of the murders are *still* up on his Facebook page. Law enforcement apparently made the connection to Odinism themselves but then dropped it upon the advice of a professor (whose name they can’t remember).

[@NoNameNo.5]

@@mariedouce7636 Whos holder? I was really into this case, until they arrested Allen.....but I knew from when I was paying attention, that this investigation was HORRIBLE! they did not follow up on leads, they didn't do a good job sealing off the scene, and their management of the public with the 2 different sketches they released was a mess.

[@parisite99]

@@mariedouce7636😂🤦🏼‍♂️

[@PandaCoasters]

Wow, a defense team is trying to defend their client. What a crazy concept.

[@theresaromeo5484]

Honestly if they gut didn't do it he is very desperate. Same if he did do it . He doesn't want to face the consequences either way.

[@GatheringBitByBit]

The details now now made known to the public are quite gruesome.

[@_heycupcake]

Yes this is the first time that I’m hearing details. Previously all of those details were not known. I remember in multiple interviews, the investigators saying that they were not going to share any of the crime scene information.

[@saspredydious9295]

In 1983 a close relative was in the kitchen of her flat when she heard scratching sounds at her back door. Thinking it was her cat, she opened the door to find a man with a slit pillow case over his head - one eye showing through the slit - using a knife to unscrew the screen door. He jumped forward and held the knife at her throat. Her flat mate, hearing her scream, ran from her bedroom. The man made the second girl strip, while holding the knife at my relatives throat. Then alternated, holding the knife at the flatmates throat and making my relative strip. The threat was clear! He said he would slit their throats if the other girl didn’t do what he wanted. I won’t go into what happened . I’m sure you can guess! My point here is that this bas*ard easily controlled these two young women. Each tried to protect the other. I don’t think that Richard did it either BUT not because he could not have controlled the two girls!

[@susane1577]

Was the perpetrator caught in your relative's case?

[@agostinodublino1387]

a lot of couples (male- female) were assaulted and even killed by a single criminal.. so it's totally possible. (and I think Allen did it)

[@KoolT]

Exactly and HE WAS THERE 2 HOURS

[@BurroGirl]

Agree!

[@BurroGirl]

@saspredydious9295 agree 100%. Very very sorry for your relative going through that.

[@ericswires8534]

Dr grande. I have always wondered how Van Gogh would be diagnosed if he were alive today. He was clearly suffering from psychological disorders. It would be so wonderful if you could do a video giving your opinion about what you think he may have suffered from.

[@shawnaciancio7442]

I wonder the same thing about Freud!!! I never thought about asking anyone to analyze him today. What a great idea!!

[@rosekeyes3189]

It was theorized that Vincent Van Gohn actually was in a fight with his friend, and his friend cut off his ear. He protected him by saying he did this to himself. A book was released on his letters to his brother Theo, and Van Gohn speaks clearly, though often in depression.

[@ericswires8534]

@@rosekeyes3189 he did indeed get into a argument with Gauguin the same evening however that wouldn’t explain why he would take part of the ear and present it to the prostitute , Rachel. Vincent was known to self harm by beating himself or even consuming his own paints. I have heard the theory that the shooting that killed him could have been an accident by some kids playing with a gun and he decided to cover for them. Yes , the many letters he sent to his brother are great insights into his psyche

[@AMartian_from_Marz]

Good idea!!!!

[@purplerain2314]

I'd be happy to listen to that. It would be a nice change from crime analyses.

[@fuyuseetaa]

Thank you for this recap! I found your channel only recently but I've come to really enjoy your way of laying out the information simply and concisely. You're very articulate with no sensationalism at all, which is refreshing. Edit: In this paragraph I originally requested for you to talk about Kyron Horman but I see now you already have! I've given it a watch! :) Looking forward to future videos either way!

[@jeanholmes7976]

Thank you Dr. Grande!! Your anaysis of this case is very thoughtful and careful. Too bad the investigators weren’t as careful. You are appreciated! 😇💕from Jean.

[@themonstersmummy]

I truly appreciate that you have the openness to change your views on a person/case. It is scary as hell how easily RA or any of us, could be a fall guy.

[@robynperdieu3434]

Just like Lee Harvey Oswald, and they have a pristine bullet placed at the scene, too. We need this trial for no other reason to bring out evidence. The public never got the truth about JFK because Oswald was shot, end of story. No trial. Public never got to hear the evidence and therefore, never got the truth.

[@brianbauer2595]

He confessed and looks like the physical description that was aired on the news. That's hard to ignore.

[@eadweard.]

What form did this confession take?

[@TheMattTrakker]

It's grainy cell phone video and false confessions are incredibly common. So yeah, don't ignore it, but take it for what it is.

[@brianbauer2595]

Over the phone in jail 5 different times speaking with his family. @@eadweard.

[@eadweard.]

@@brianbauer2595 Yes but _what did he say_ during these confessions?

[@stephanie90734]

​@@eadweard. Why don't you ask him? That's evidence for trial.

[@nobody8328]

I remember the satanic panic in the 80s, and this smells suspiciously similar

[@eadweard.]

You'd need to be more specific really.

[@SongsAboutHappiness]

You mean the 'satanic panic " that the FBI confirmed was a response to CIA operations involving children and daycares? This what I hate. Snobby little secular nerds that don't know all the pieces but dismiss anything that they themselves don't know.

[@E.C.Animation]

Not when one knows about the satanic panic... 🙄

[@eadweard.]

@@ThepupsnameisBrian Cannot tell what you are trying to say.

[@TheAtl198]

​@@ThepupsnameisBrianYou are incredibly rude in all of your comments. Why?

[@TracvM320]

Thank you for this easy to understand,total breakdown of this case. Very interesting and it would not be the first time innocent people confessed to crimes they did not commit. In today’s day and age, no DNA and no digital data are very important. We all know how far they can go to obtain texts, emails, web searches etc. it definitely leads to reasonable doubt. Love your honest assessments and your channel.

[@brihaver1951]

I’m currently binging on your Podcast. What a great group of smart, informed and hilariously funny guys! It’s been fun to get to know you better and to see you in a more relaxed setting. Keep up the good work ❤

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about why some cacti are on fire but some are not.

[@justacutepieceofshit]

Lmao

[@MEL2theJ]

I'm back to watch Dr. Grande's analysis of this case as the trial moves forward

[@daynasafranek7807]

There is a lot that confuses me about this case. I lived in a very small town for a while and you just “know” people. Even if I didn’t know someone personally, I knew someone that knew them or could recognize them. It was easy to spot people who were not from the area. I’m just confused how people could not know who “bridge guy” was the whole time 🤷‍♀️ … they had him admitting he was there. So what was the hunt for him all about on the news? Make that make sense.

[@ElleSmith2023]

everyone thought it was a youth pastor that lived in the area at that time. he has since lost weight and moved away from the area.

[@rebeccamassal5646]

Well apparently there is a cult there. This all reads of one cult member trying to throw others under the bus.

[@tessaducek5601]

I just wrote this. But I lived in a town of three thousand and one bearded overweight redneck looks pretty much like the next. Being there is not guilt of a crime. That seems fair to you? Three thousand is still a lot of people. And the snippet of video could fit many people. He was interviewed but apparently nothing stood out for police. If police zero in on one person and convict the wrong man . Everyone would complaine about tunnel vision and making an arrest. They take their time and everyone complaines it took too long. Regardless of time. He has not been proven guilty and arrest does not mean he is. He deserves a fair defense.

[@headishome8452]

​@@tessaducek5601Everyone deserves to have an attorney. There is something wrong with this case.

[@r.shanethompson7933]

I couldn't agree more. Some of the statements made and some actions taken by law enforcement in this case are like nothing I've ever seen or heard and I spent 15 years On The Job. There is something Very "Wrong" about this case and has been since beginning. Though I will state that I doubt Very Special Superintendent Littlest Dougie Carter is an Odinite. I am 100% certain he is an IDIOT, but an Odinite , seems unlikely.

[@SebastianSkadisson]

What a disgrace, i hope the two girls found peace where ever they may be now.

[@davidschaadt3460]

I hope the real truth comes out.⚖️

[@robynperdieu3434]

No, they are not at peace. I have had dreams of what really happened and Libby is a strong spirit whom wants the truth to come out!

[@RuffianLivesOn]

​@@robynperdieu3434Go take your meds.

[@huffysheraton]

I work in the criminal records. The unrefined language used by the attorneys is pretty standard in motions of this sort. This sounds terrible, but Rick Allen does not strike me as smart and cunning enough to commit this crime and get away with it for five years. If he was smart enough to pull that off, no way would he have been dumb enough to talk to the police.

[@poindextertunes]

he’s most likely a patsy

[@jessiestoss2687]

Richard Allen walked around free and unassuming for nearly six years because the police and public developed tunnel vision on Ron Logan, the elderly property owner. Richard Allen may not be a sophisticated criminal, but it is entirely possible that he studied how to not leave behind DNA evidence. Dressed in layers, wore gloves, maybe had a kill kit stashed nearby... I don't buy this Odinism crap, and I don't believe that Richard Allen is a patsy. If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and it confesses to the wife and mother no less than five times... You already know.

[@southbug27]

He said he was at he bridge, he looks like the bridge guy, owns the exact cost as the bridge guy, etc. With all this, the police didn’t even bother to even look at him for years. The issue here is the stupidity of the police investigating the case more than the intelligence of Richard Allen.

[@Gypsygirl9]

I think RA has to be involved in some way but I think there was one or two others as well. Why would he admit to being on the bridge and say what he was wearing?

[@bobs5596]

@@Gypsygirl9 because if you know you didn't do it, why try to cover up what you didn't do?

[@augustbernard3396]

I can’t imagine there’s any gang with affiliates in the prison system that assaults and kills children and still has a modicum of respect. Whoever killed these girls is and will be the lowest of the low in prison.

[@johnpatzold8675]

Not anymore. Any recent study of prisoners will tell you since the online porn revolution took over all these young people's minds, the prisons are full of these kinds of sycophants. He'll have plenty of company that share his fantasies. This isn't 1980. This is the ever increasing rotten world of present times.

[@lindagroot8556]

Richard Allen is innocent! Fucking Cults

[@AnimosityIncarnate]

They generally speaking only care about rape 😂 even then they'll end up taping the dude, so these dudes change values and morals on a dime

[@nemonucliosis]

Only there are hundreds of gangs who profit from sex trade and human trafficing of minors but whatever.

[@kdizzle901]

Agreed

[@katrinashostakovich3607]

Hi Dr. Grande! Thanks for the upload. My question for today is if you can analyze the case of the Springfield Three- it is a case in which three women disappeared and have never been heard fron again. I've never been able to even speculate as to what may have caused their disappearances so I'd love your take on it!

[@evonne315]

Why would Odinites leave evidence that it was them? Or leave bodies to be found at all if they were going to do the deer antler thing and carve symbols on stuff. I mean there are not too many around doesn't make sense. Seems more an idea to throw off detectives, to pretend it was a ritual killing. What a mess.

[@daynasafranek7807]

It’s very sloppy work for an organization….

[@joannsissy4768]

Because there a cult what cults do HELLO

[@markmike7933]

it's the SILLIEST NONSENSE Ive ever heard :)

[@tanikokishimoto1604]

​@@joannsissy4768Riiiight. Doubt it here.

[@themonstersmummy]

Cult be doing what cults do

[@russellb5573]

Odinites! Who would have Thort it! I do hope they can clear this case up at some point, soon. It's extremely sad and you wonder what those poor girls must have gone through on that day I do hope the girls relatives are coming to terms with all this. I wish them well

[@saltinawenchito898]

Thort! 😂 well done, sir

[@russellb5573]

​​@@saltinawenchito898 Thanks! Yes. I thought, I would keep my comment clever and on point, yet subtle and Loki 😂

[@TheAtl198]

​@@russellb5573😂

[@hamdog5441]

Yeah, I can tell how "extremely sad" you think it is by the way you make bad puns about the case of double child homicide.

[@russellb5573]

@@hamdog5441 Hey! I hope you are well, wherever you are. Thanks for your comment but can I ask, why you are watching Dr Grande videos, if you are offended by a bit of mirth mixed in with the most utterly tragic and barbaric actions and mayhem carried out and caused by humankind in the real world? Personally, I have to try and have a find a little lightness in the darkness of these abhorrent crimes (sometimes) especially considering the tragedy that has been my own everyday personal life for the last twelve years. You have a good day and stay safe from all the insanity on the planet

[@MrBertWayne]

*@Dr. Todd Grande , I have seen the image representing the ALLEGED "Letter F" on the tree... It is NOT an actual "Letter F" nor does it APPEAR to be an attempt at writing the "Letter F" onto the tree. IN FACT, it is "Blood spatter" on the tree. Blood spatter in which you can ONLY see a "Letter F" if you're LOOKING for a "Letter F".. It's PAREIDOLIA, in the most EXTREME stretch of the definition, as the spatter does not, even remotely, resemble an ACTUAL "Letter F".*

[@justacutepieceofshit]

THANK YOU! Why is no one else noticing this?

[@kimlersue]

Letter F as left on the tree...more like a hand and thumb print.

[@consuelofranco3418]

Thank you Dr. Grande. I am sorry tabout what happened to the children and thier families. I appreciate what you do!

[@z4c4p4]

I have been following this case for years; this recent stuff is insane...... Thanks for your perspective, Dr. G.!!

[@aly5664]

Thank God we are getting your take on this ! To say it was overwhelming when we hard this an understatement.

[@superjaded1738]

The victims clothes were removed. There’s only one reason clothes are removed in a crime, Cult or No cult. The murderer was out there for almost 2 hrs with the victims. Cctv picked up the coming & going of traffic

[@BurroGirl]

Thanks so much for this analysis Dr. Grande! I agree that there is definitely reasonable doubt.

[@mahadidoggett2431]

There was a show on HBO called "True Detective" that aired the first season in 2014. That show was all about this Odin type of organization and might have been the inspiration for the group to actually carrie the killings out in real life. The time line should not be difficult to add.

[@hallowmoss1511]

'True Detective' has absolutely nothing to do with Odinism.

[@griffinsalmon5798]

odinism? true detective season one is molloch/vril adjecent paganism with some voodoo imagery.

[@mahadidoggett2431]

You@@hallowmoss1511 are a Odinism denier . My question is why?

[@InAHandBasket]

@@hallowmoss1511 The only comparison I see is that they had the woman's body with the tree branches looking like antlers. Very creepy stuff in that first season.

[@steelcurtain187]

You did a great job covering this one. I’m right there with you about the reasonable doubt so far. Just when you think this case can’t get any more creepy and mysterious.

[@darnellwilliams9917]

I believe because of the circumstances surrounding this case, this case needs to go to the US Supreme Court the is definitely FED worthy.

[@debpalm8667]

The BAU of the FBI reported Nordic influence at the crime scene and estimated bridge guy being 5'8"-5'10". Greg Ferency,an agent investigating the Odinists,was killed by a former correctional officer.

[@katcihealer]

I don't believe he falsely confessed.

[@dawnmarie1433]

Really, I do.

[@ThepupsnameisBrian]

@@dawnmarie1433 well, you're wrong.

[@WestCoastJazzForever]

​@@ThepupsnameisBrianNo, she's right. Richard is being railroaded. He was forced to confess by the horrid Odinite prison guards. Let's see, Zero DNA evidence & zero electronic device evidence of Richard at the crime scene. Good lord, they're holding an innocent man.

[@doctorajaguar]

And to his wife, freely.

[@clootscalhoun9481]

You believe he legitimately confessed? Or not at all?

[@LemonCrush1078]

If one man was able to get the girls to ‘go down the hill’ then he certainly could take them to a desolate area and kill them. He had a gun to scare them down the hill and they remained afraid and did as they were told. How doesn’t this make sense??!!

[@Emeraldcity70]

Yes. The 9/11 hijackers who took over the cockpits were half the size of the pilots (and some of those pilots were ex military). Bad guys have the element of surprise.

[@katheryn8272]

Because logic never makes sense to some. I don’t get it either.

[@danieldougan269]

After he killed one, wouldn't the other one run away regardless of the gun? That is, unless he shot them both in rapid succession.

[@katheryn8272]

@@danieldougan269 it could be she hoped the person may spare her life if she didn’t run away. Maybe just to scared to try anything. I can’t imagine what that must have been thinking.

[@lindacosma2064]

Dr Grande, I agree with you absolutely. I never thought Allen did this. The police enjoyed the attention. Thank you for covering this case

[@karis7649]

Most people (and I’d argue almost all young teen girls) would be pretty easily controlled by a much larger adult man with a gun. I’d also argue this case will be decided by the girls heroic video - they’re pretty clearly filming one guy with one gun. the one guy they filmed, looks an awful lot like the guy they arrested and he’s very familiar with the area. I think the investigation was an awful small town failure tho, so who the hell knows what they missed, what they lied about, and what they rushed or mishandled. They might very well have f’ed it up, enough fir a food defense to be adequate for an acquittal - but it doesn’t mean he’s the wrong guy.

[@TheMattTrakker]

Wait, how can they just not find this professor? Or are they implying he's made up

[@ThepupsnameisBrian]

Yes, they're IMPLYING he's made up. That's not to say he WAS, simply that the defense's job is to create reasonable doubt, and I gotta hand it to them, they sure did- especially judging by the comments section.

[@WangMingGe]

I think that a large part of the public WANTS to believe in Satanic cults around every corner, Triad gangs with opium dens in Chinatown, serial killers who are actually royalty (rather than simply psychopathic individuals from, usually, emotionally messed-up families), that every tourist who goes missing or is killed was trafficked by an international sex tourism gang (that, of course, prefers mildly attractive middle-class white women from rich western countries with well-funded police forces and powerful governments that will create a tremendous amount of problems for them) and is living a secret life years later, signaling their secret identity to some other tourist who saw them on the beach in a totally different part of the world....yeah you know what I'm talking about. People want to believe in such things, so, the mere fact the defense attorney said it is treated like evidence. @@ThepupsnameisBrian

[@Libbathegreat]

What the defense is stating is that the police have never produced in discovery (as would be required by law) any evidence that any police conversation ever took place with any professor at Purdue about these murders. That alone is a big problem. Whether the professor ever existed or not is anyone's guess.

[@jamescrane7034]

They found the professor and what he said was that it could very well be a cult action, but Jerry Holmans said just the opposite that he said it did not look like a cult act. No wonder why they lost him

[@azulgaia7782]

Oh, thank you Dr. Grande, for the update on this startling filing! Now I can learn what's rational after hearing such bizarre claims, because I certainly started to feel RA has nowhere to hide, even if let out of jail.

[@Jenny-cj3we]

Thank you for evaluating both sides without any hint of bias. People pick apart discussions and are quick to take a side based on how passionate the persons ‘debating’ the facts are. Great job

[@9sheri9]

Agreed, the evidence we currently have does not lead me to believe he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@thefinalboss2403]

Yea must have been a secret cult lmao!

[@joemoody2626]

Doesn't matter either way what the prosecution wants it gets

[@debbiehoyt9018]

@@thefinalboss2403 conspiracy theories have a way of becoming fact. Also the courts have stuff we don't and cults are a real thing

[@chrismathis4162]

Really, he admits to being on the bridge near the time of the murder, he admits to wearing the same type clothes, and he is the same body type as the guy on the bridge. Bullet casings at the crime scene have the same markings his gun could produce. So either this is a conspiracy by the STATE or he is the most unlucky man on the planet.

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

Must have been aliens ...

[@domoetker3967]

1.The fact that the police did not collect the sticks or the part of the tree with the blood as evidence is a huge problem

[@sammyday3341]

Maybe they did.

[@domoetker3967]

@@sammyday3341 maybe you're right, maybe you are wrong, maybe

[@horrortackleharry]

The worst outcome would be that he was involved (maybe not alone) but gets found Not Guilty because of a half-baked prosecution. Hopefully the judge will dismiss and make a new set of cops re-investigate.

[@lizzeltired2155]

The worst thing would be for him to get found guilty when he was not involved at all and the real killers get away with it. I’m not saying he is definitely innocent and am waiting to hear more evidence

[@jeanniesmith3356]

Law enforcement has had over 8 months to find the others involved. What is taking them so long? Prosecution cant link R.A. to the crime that's why. No dna or electronic evidence? If R.A. was involved with someone else, surely there would be evidence of that.

[@poindextertunes]

@@jeanniesmith3356bcuz the cops are in on it

[@davidgray1515]

LE in IN is ranked 45/50. Changing to different inept corrupt cops isnt going to help.

[@Scipio_Americanus]

What organization did the ranking?

[@edgarsnake2857]

Is it possible in this day and age that there is even one police officer who doesn't know the basics of securing a crime scene and collecting evidence? It's in every TV detective show I've watched for the last 50 years. What do they teach at the academy? They must mention it. Right? I know it's a tough job but it always sounds shady when LE lets crime scenes get contaminated.

[@Marlene_CC]

And you would think that one of the first things a small town detective would do is to make sure the FBI received the report and interview of every single person that was on the trail that day.

[@catwrangla9027]

Remember BTK and how he single-handedly controlled and killed a family of 4? Zodiac Killer killed several couples, all adults. Todd Kohlhepp killed the male in the couples he targeted and kept the woman alive for a period of time. Joseph Edward Duncan, who killed the parents and older brother of Shasta and Dylan Groene, later killing Dylan. Even though children were victims in some of the cases, they all involved adults and one perpetrator.

[@katetucker1452]

Yes. Exactly.

[@paulaunger3061]

I wonder if any justice is possible in this case. The police seem to have done such an exceptionally bad investigation, how will anyone's guilt or innocence be satisfactorily established? Those poor little girls :(

[@Cec9e13]

Not often that you see a video title like that from Dr. Grande and then come away thinking that it's not actually necessarily as crazy as it sounds.

[@averagejoe1773]

I'm 46 years old. When I was almost 40 I was at a rest stop up by Canada about 3:00 in the morning no one around.. walked out of the bathroom there was a guy standing in the corner with a knife, didn't say a word, dress clean as could be.. follow me back to my truck. I've never been as scared in my life. I was literally froze like you see in a movie... Looking at someone who looks like they have no soul knowing there's no one around and it's a random act of violence thats probably gonna go unsolved is frightening in debilitating.. so I totally believe an older man with a gun could get these girls to do whatever he wants

[@440SPN]

Glad u got away....thats terrible.

[@brendagardner1332]

I want to hear the whole story! I had a similar experience.

[@kellyg2426]

So glad you are still here to tell this story! How terrifying!

[@carolroberts8930]

I wonder if the truth will ever come to light in this case.

[@barrythomas2357]

Thank you Dr Grande for explaining a rather complicated and confusing set of events in your usual charming manner.

[@Swanky95472]

I appreciate YOU every day, DR. Grande ! ! ! THANKS FOR MAKING AWESOME VIDEOS!!

[@rush437]

i live in Rushville and that's the first I've heard of two men from here helping with the murders. I think Richard did the murders but i dont think it was random. This whole case has been so confusing and frustrating with all the circles it has gone in.

[@ThepupsnameisBrian]

It is the craziest case I've ever come across, and I've been studying true crime for four decades now. That being said, even if others were involved (and I actually believe there were), it doesn't mean the creepy little twerp wasn't part of it.

[@nemonucliosis]

Its confusing because too keyboard warriors are vomiting their theories on what happened and making shit up as they go.

[@carolcarol3938]

What is the population of Rushville and is this case widely known about in the community please?

[@TheLurker1647]

I think this is a phenomenally bad take. The idea that "mental stressors" are going to make an innocent man admit to murder beggars belief. Lock me up for a murder a didn't commit, and I'll tell you one thing: "wasn't me".

[@thefinalboss2403]

Thank you! This is what I'm saying! "Gee I'm having a bad day I think I'll confess to murders I didn't do. That will help me feel better!"

[@PerlaOC]

It’s happened before, a dad confessing to killing his daughter and her friend, when he hadn’t done it. Years later truth came out, and he was released from jail after 10 years, if I’m not mistaken on the time he was behind bars.

[@aisoconcranberriesu2as]

There were also suggestions that he was being threatened by the so called Odinist correctional officers to admit to it.

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Thank you after Grande. This is a fascinating update. I had seen something about a ritualistic crime scene but your analysis explains that. Please keep us informed as this case progresses.

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Autocorrect!!!

[@conorfitzmaurice8959]

I hope that justice is served , those poor girls what they had to endure. Rest in peace.

[@vitaminj664]

You took your time with the document. Appreciate your analysis

[@Drainhair]

I watch all of your videos when they come out. Commenting for the algorythm bc I cannot financially support on patreon right now.

[@hopeseekr]

It's just $5/month.

[@Drainhair]

@@hopeseekr I live paycheck to paycheck right now I'm trying to get control of cc debt. It all adds up. That's why I don't pay for streaming services either. :/

[@powlperc]

$5.00 is significant to some people. Inflation has been brutal.

[@sharondowling8896]

What a mess of an investigation! And such a tragic story that might never have justice in the end. My heart goes out to the family and friends of those 2 innocents.

[@zovalentine7305]

Rest in peace 🙏 Liberty German 27 December 2002 ~ 13 February 2017⚘ Abigail Williams 23 June 2003 ~ 13 February 2017⚘

[@kenya1067]

Wow I didn't realize how long ago that happened. May they rest in peace.

[@hannahmitchell87]

Lupercalia was a pagan festival held around Feb 14th. Hadn't made the connection til I saw the date you typed. Could be nothng though. Either way, poor girls

[@Scipio_Americanus]

Lupercalia was Roman not Norse.

[@elco2737]

Excellent assessment, and I agree with your analysis and conclusion. In order for the victims and their families to truly have justice it's imperative that all possible leads and angles be investigated thoroughly, not just the most convenient ones.

[@AMartian_from_Marz]

Dr. Grande, thanks alot for this video. Very informative with alot of info on the case in general that I didnt know and it has me thinking. Best wishes to you, I look forward to the next one.

[@haroldcampos9661]

What makes me mad about this case is that amongst all the evidence we discovered that kegan was extracting a lot of things from these girls (potentially CSAM and CP) and maybe sharing them and stalking people, including agreeing to meet them at the bridge as anthony shots. Which already implicates him for the murder as well. He talked a whole lot after that. But it all makes me furious.

[@CB-kj8ed]

One of the men (the father of a boy that had interactions w. one of the girls) referred to in this video had posted some disturbing videos online that I’ve seen on another channel. He was mocking an element of this case and it definitely was disturbing. He seemed unhinged…

[@snarky2u]

I’m not sold on Odinites. People can create something that seems ritualistic based off of what they’ve seen in popular culture. For example, the branches being positioned as antlers reminds me of the show True Detective, where a victim was found wearing antlers. Movies like Blair Witch use sticks to make symbols. But even then, it doesn’t explain why.

[@Libbathegreat]

"People can create something that seems ritualistic based off of what they’ve seen in popular culture." That's pretty much exactly what these numbskull white supremacists do. They like to link themselves to something ancient (and white) to give themselves a counterfeit sense of identity.

[@jeremyhall7495]

Excellent video Dr. Grande, some very good points raised here, thanks!

[@ryanfreeborn4252]

They didn't wait 6 yrs to arrest someone else on a hunch. They have the right guy. The guy has no defense. He admitted to the crime. His bullet was at the crime scene.

[@eadweard.]

They waited 6 years to arrest him, therefore he's guilty. That's interesting logic.

[@varrick1226]

How could RA possibly do a crime like this without leaving his DNA? Impossible.

[@ryanfreeborn4252]

@eadweard. Guess you only read the first sentences of paragraphs. Interesting logic.

[@eadweard.]

@@ryanfreeborn4252 You'd need to be more specific really.

[@-SarahElizabeth-]

Everyone seems to forget that the prosecutors haven’t told their side yet. Jumping to conclusions based off of this seems premature. We’ll know everything when it actually goes to court.

[@nemonucliosis]

+1 for logic.. Thank you.

[@margiewinslow872]

Unfortunately, the state will bring forth what proves their case and the defense will use what is most compelling to get to get their client reasonable doubt. The whole story and all the details usually never come out unless some really thorough, objective journalist or other uninvolved party gets hold of all of the info.

[@-SarahElizabeth-]

@@margiewinslow872 I guess that is what I meant? I know we won’t know everything probably ever. But the prosecution has yet to make their case.

[@-SarahElizabeth-]

@@margiewinslow872 unfortunately? What?

[@Ann-sj4pt]

This has nothing to do with real Odinism.The girls may sadly still be part of a ritualistic murd ering rite,but i’m not buying it.

[@wolfe6220]

Agree, no Odinist would do that. I think their claim that it's *any* cult murder/sacrifice is total BS. Reminds me of the Satanic Panic from my teen years...

[@nitaphillips2752]

The scene described does appear ritualistic. And the symbolism may be used in various pagan rites. That doesn't mean a core tradition has somehow encouraged a crime such as this BUT it does suggest whoever is responsible is somehow knowledgeable of certain symbolism and practices which can narrow down a suspect list. Ppl familiar with the symbolism can be a big help and service by sharing their knowledge of the practices the perpetrator may have distorted to fit their criminal behavior.

[@nadiacusan3799]

you have to remember this is the defense speaking

[@golfinspired2058]

Excellent job Dr. Class job. I find it interesting that the lawyers were dismissed by the judge even though only one had the crime scene photos released. What has the prosecution but release without proof all these allegations against RA before trial and allowing the information to get out to potential jurors and anyone who thinks this does not work , just read the comments and see how quickly people are ready to hang RA without a trial. You made some great points in this video. I just listened to another video where they claimed someone identified a person with bloody clothes wearing the same color as what RA was wearing and of course you just debunked that. There is something rotten in Delphi .

[@golfinspired2058]

correction Why has the prosecution released without proof

[@Cinder_311]

"Bill" had an alibi and I have combed through "Bill's " facebook and there is not symbols on there like they are saying. His entire fb is still up. Also he had all the odistic symbols because he's apparently into odinism and does appear to have white supremacist views which is bad, but why would a group of white supremacists kill two white girls? If "Bill's" friends had something to do with it idk but he seems to have an alibi and is definitely not bridge guy due to his appearance. I'm still looking at RA as Bg. I think that his defense is trying to put doubt in everyone's minds but it is very far fetched. The "F" was not painted. It looks to be blood spatter or cast off.

[@MilaB1111]

He confessed to his wife more than one time ….

[@chumchum4393]

Yes!

[@nemonucliosis]

Defense will claim it was under duress which can then be thrown out during trial.

[@SCSJiuJitsu260]

Which is something the perpetrator of this crime likely would not do.

[@nemonucliosis]

@@SCSJiuJitsu260 lots of people confess murdering people. There are plenty of videos on youtube showing this

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

@@SCSJiuJitsu260 Richard might have confessed to get it over with. If it does go to trial his family will find out about everything that went down. He's a coward

[@rusty9008]

This reminds me a lot of the first season of the show True Detective in regards to the murders and the pagan symbolism behind it.

[@jeanniesmith3356]

I agree, how did he pull it off without leaving evidence behind except for an unspent bullet which has no chain of custody.

[@zulu32656]

You’d be surprised what you can do with a gun and 2 young scared kids.

[@jeanniesmith3356]

@@zulu32656 Without leaving dna behind? They were not shot.

[@m.f.richardson1602]

I see two new candle cacti in the back ground. Always interesting Thank you Peace

[@chawkinz]

He has an unhealthy obsession with cacti.

[@Ann-sj4pt]

The cacti cult lol

[@m.f.richardson1602]

@@chawkinz Yeah, that's why I love this guy.

[@katrinashostakovich3607]

​@@chawkinzi think his wife is the decorator 🌵🤍

[@zovalentine7305]

So much time, so many loopholes, so sad that justice turned out to be just ice 😢.

[@eadweard.]

Cannot tell what you are trying to say.

[@TheAtl198]

​@eadweard. I can't either. How did that word salad get 33 likes?

[@TheThora17]

I think it curious the rate at which Allen’s health has physically and mentally declined. Out of all the true crime I’ve been exposed to, I’ve never seen such rapid downwards change of a guilty suspect in custody; is this a hint of Allen actually being innocent? 🤷‍♀️

[@thefinalboss2403]

No

[@YourGoodKarma]

I’m really having a problem with the motive in this case. Some random guy sees random teens and decides to do all of this randomly???????? In broad daylight? I’m just not buying it. Something is not right.

[@ember1794]

As I wrote underneath an other video: Whenever they suspect unusual and horrific, outlandish things like ritualistic murders or sex trafficking in these high profile cases, it usually never seems to have been the case. The reality of these cases often seems to be much more mundane

[@StigmataMarty]

If he said he didn't do it in a jailhouse conversation does that mean he is innocent?

[@GhastlyCretin]

There'd be a good reason for him denying doing it. Why would he admit to it?

[@pricklypear7516]

@@GhastlyCretin If you had been unfairly incarcerated by a system that -- BOOM! -- had somehow, suddenly, gained total control over you and your life, and members of that system are telling you, "Confess, and your daughter WON'T be brutally assaulted," "Confess and your mother WON'T have acid thrown in her face," "Confess and your wife WON'T be torched while she sleeps" . . . are you going to at least consider it? Especially as they've had months to make you feel like a cockroach and you know that any hope of a future or personal control over your life or even basic safety is lost forever . . . are you going to at least be tempted if they promise that the psychological torture will stop?

[@eadweard.]

​@@GhastlyCretinThank you. It's amazing how many people think denials and confessions have equal weight.

[@pricklypear7516]

I'm going to go a little further here and ask you to consider the disadvantage you'd feel KNOWING you are innocent. If you're guilty, deep inside you can admit to the fairness of your treatment and you can put up some defenses. If you're innocent, all you can feel is betrayed by a system you trusted, in full view of a public you always assumed had your back. There's no feeling worse than that of helpless victimhood.

[@jeanniesmith3356]

Well, someone else admitted it to his sister. Does that mean he is guilty?

[@Codehead3]

1) Odinite is a mineral. The people are called Odinists. 2) The smudge on the tree doesn’t look like an F. It looks like a smudge.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

Have you seen a picture of the blood?

[@Codehead3]

⁠@@mysteryjunkie9808I’ve seen a depiction of what the smudge looks like. Court TV showed the depiction on their coverage of this incident and later so did Grizzly True Crime.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Thank you so much for the update on this case, Dr. Grande.❤