Full Restoration - Victor Victrola Record Player from 1917

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@pierreelliott2379
@pierreelliott2379 8 ай бұрын
The designs were so simplistic back then. Great restoration 👌
@MartinSBrown-tp9ji
@MartinSBrown-tp9ji 6 ай бұрын
I have this same unit and it still works fine. You did a great job restoring your phonograph, looks just like mine now.
@hyacinthlynch843
@hyacinthlynch843 2 ай бұрын
I think I like this model better than the one with the large horn. Great work!
@EngineVids
@EngineVids 8 ай бұрын
I noticed you didnt fit the reproducer soundbox gaskets correctly, they need to be a excess tight fit before installing otherwise it will leak air and you get the bad rattley sound as heard here. Its usually a specialist job, it took me ages to get correctly myself. It would be good if you could revisit this and try new tighter fitting seals as you will be impressed with the sound quality😎.
@Duckcalculator
@Duckcalculator 8 ай бұрын
I rebuilt a Victrola No.2 reproducer first try, but those ain’t nothing compared to the Exhibition.
@solinus7131
@solinus7131 Ай бұрын
I also noticed that they used a record from the 1930s-40s, which are louder than 1910s records that the meachine was intended to play
@SannaKore
@SannaKore 9 ай бұрын
You got this Victrola looking beautiful! I always love learning about retro tech and how they work through restoration videos. Thank you for sharing this! ^_^
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 8 ай бұрын
The "Chrome" plating is NOT Chrome. - Chrome plating was not invented till the 1920's or 30's. That is NICKEL Plated. In truth - "Chrome" plating is actually nickel plated FIRST, then the chrome is applied OVER the nickel to protect the nickel. Personally, I think the bare Nickel has a beautiful warmth that chrome takes away. Any good chrome shop can do it. Nice restoration - glad you didn't overdo it like so many do!
@achut1967
@achut1967 8 ай бұрын
Amazing restoration and dedication. Keep it up. Bravo!
@jbaptisteboulas7640
@jbaptisteboulas7640 6 ай бұрын
Très belle restauration de cet ancien phonographe, le rendu final est parfait et il pourra durer encore longtemps la bonne qualité de ces appareils le permet.
@stevenbest6408
@stevenbest6408 5 ай бұрын
Nice work! Hope you have a good supply of old records. Cheers from Texas.
@shishirkumarverma5717
@shishirkumarverma5717 8 ай бұрын
Excellent work. Thanks ⚘️
@williamkuhns2387
@williamkuhns2387 7 ай бұрын
A large prickly pear cactus spine makes the best needle. It's softer than the 78 rpm records strong but flexible. On these phonographs the steel needles need to be replaced ideally every 1 to 3 plays. The 78s were made from shellac and clay and are harder than the steel needles so the needle tip grinds down and can damage the record grooves. Inside the case would be a little metal cup to store the extra needles.
@AlexK-nu9qj
@AlexK-nu9qj 5 ай бұрын
Голки були сталевими, сталевими з корундовою вставкою, скляні та бамбукові з обпаленими кінчиками. Чим товща голка, тим гучніше тон звука. З опунції буде камерне звучання. З повагою! А з шеллака та наповнювача типа сажі робили платівки, а не голки...
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 9 ай бұрын
It looks great and you did a wonderful job restoring it as well!!!! I enjoyed your video so I gave it a Thumbs Up
@jeffersongabler5998
@jeffersongabler5998 8 ай бұрын
I glad for how you keep all the original parts and als osafes the marks from the old workers.
@pedanticsmith5613
@pedanticsmith5613 8 ай бұрын
Put a sock in it! (Stuff one in the horn) - What the grown ups used to tell the kids when they were playing it too loud. Still in common parlance today in Britain.
@ГретыйТумблерг
@ГретыйТумблерг 8 ай бұрын
Цвет морилки (вещество для обработки деревянных поверхностей) - фантастический !!! Я восхищён !!!
@robettarmstrong6108
@robettarmstrong6108 9 ай бұрын
Fascinating video, thankyou.
@pierrelecaillou6966
@pierrelecaillou6966 8 ай бұрын
most delightful. Thanks mate!
@markosterman419
@markosterman419 8 ай бұрын
Just want to point out that when that was made a dark paste filler was rubbed into the open grain and lightly sanded off to produce a flat surface and enhance the grain before an actual oil varnish was used. No filler and poly is the standard of modern crappy finishes on antiques made of oak.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 8 ай бұрын
It so upsets me when I see people using spray "varnish" on new veneer when they have restored an item - and it looks like a dried orange skin finish
@Sknives
@Sknives 7 ай бұрын
Parabéns, foi bom assistir o seu trabalho. Parabéns também pelo Tango no final do vídeo.
@Phil197
@Phil197 9 ай бұрын
Truly enjoyed this restoration and learned some things about early victrolas, Thanks
@chrismayer3919
@chrismayer3919 4 ай бұрын
I think it would be neat to have little ceramic band figurines in front of the reproducer horn so it looks like THEY are playing the music! 😋
@madmanmapper
@madmanmapper 9 ай бұрын
Nice job. When I polished my reproducer, I found out that the nickel plating was extremely thin, and it basically just came off by polishing. Dunno how you got away with it. I replated mine, looks fantastic. One thing I was surprised by, as I had never operated a Victrola before, was just how loud they play. With medium volume needles, I would still keep one door closed for comfortable volume level.
@Duckcalculator
@Duckcalculator 8 ай бұрын
You figure that if you can’t increase the volume, but you can decrease it, you’d want it to play as loud as possible
@Diecast_Roof
@Diecast_Roof 7 ай бұрын
Good job man
@curiosidadesdopassado6673
@curiosidadesdopassado6673 9 ай бұрын
Qual o tipo de borracha que foi usado para segurar a mica ?
@fredivalle-js4gv
@fredivalle-js4gv 3 ай бұрын
The technology must be changing?...but you are an artist forever...tank you for you work
@theoutdooradventureschanne8893
@theoutdooradventureschanne8893 7 ай бұрын
Alot of the times that it is hard to wind or the return speed is slow is the old oil used to coat the gears and spring its an old whale oil based lubricant and prone to degradation and becoming sticky over time a good alcohol scrub and a new machine oil will solve most simple lubricant based issues on old machines like these or sewing machines
@ГретыйТумблерг
@ГретыйТумблерг 8 ай бұрын
СПАСИБО В разобранном виде данное устройство увидеть где-либо практически невозможно. Посмотрел с удовольствием.
@RobertGott-c3f
@RobertGott-c3f 9 ай бұрын
My dad threw one in a skip while I was at work On is way back to the car another man saved it At least he had vision😂😂😂😊wonder if it’s still around Great video thanks😊😊😊
@TheSchmed
@TheSchmed 6 ай бұрын
I have a Standard Model A Phonograph an Edison Cylinder player, both portable and in working condition, love them. Just need an original horn for the Edison. The reproducers are very hard to come by. I guess they used Bakelite back then, that tends to crack over t8me.
@jmrclockdoc
@jmrclockdoc 9 ай бұрын
So how did you clean and regrease the mainspring?
@DilmarMaestro-i6s
@DilmarMaestro-i6s 8 ай бұрын
Poderia mandar o nome desse tango que toca no final. (Agradeço Muito)
@_moderntalking_
@_moderntalking_ 8 ай бұрын
Makinenin sistemi çok tuhaf, plağın üstündeki iğne plağı çiziyor gibi geliyor bana
@valdocesarsiqueira8716
@valdocesarsiqueira8716 7 ай бұрын
Rio de janeiro - Brasil 😍🥰 Amei a restauração. Quero pra mim
@LFKGooner
@LFKGooner 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful, excellent job.
@ArgentumEssence
@ArgentumEssence 8 ай бұрын
Forgotten Hi-End technology. All natural. Perfect sound.
@christo930
@christo930 7 ай бұрын
Nah. There is pure nostalgia. Early phonographs were severely limited in frequency response. They sounded roughly similar, maybe slightly worse than AM radio. The frequency response was less than 5khz. The real breakthrough came in 1927 or 28 with the invention of electric recording and then a couple years later with the Orthophonic mechanical reproducer which had a frequency response up to 10khz. Then right around the same time came electric reproducers.
@solinus7131
@solinus7131 Ай бұрын
​@@christo930The video also stated that the phonograph was the CHEAPEST offered by Victor. So not hi end at ALL
@rogerpessoa
@rogerpessoa 7 ай бұрын
Hi excelente, está muy bien. Thanks
@dwightl5863
@dwightl5863 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate the workmanship and the mechanics of these old players. But that is where it ends. Playing a record on them is very close to nails on a blackboard for me. Piece looks good.
@BOMReviews
@BOMReviews 9 ай бұрын
I actually agree - playing the 60-odd records that came with it, some were surprisingly clean sounding, but still I instinctively wanted to adjust the sound and apply a filter to "de-noise" them.
@paveloleynikov4715
@paveloleynikov4715 9 ай бұрын
Techmoan did an excellent video about shellac records degradation and 78's sound quality... And given than nobody press shellac records anymore (in any meaningful capacity, at least) chances to hear their true sound are very slim.
@EngineVids
@EngineVids 8 ай бұрын
They sound amazing when the soundbox seals are perfect, ive put a seperate comment on why this sounds rattley and loud like you say.
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
You must use a new, never-used steel needle for each record side played. You must rebuild the soundbox with new supple gaskets to replace the original rock-hard ones. You must play recordings from the same era as the phonograph, because later ones overload the system and will not play without distortion.
@STC614
@STC614 9 ай бұрын
I LOVE Victrolas would rather listen to them rather than anything…they , like early silent films are such a major piece of history
@alexandrepereira1307
@alexandrepereira1307 3 ай бұрын
Parabéns! Ótimo trabalho.
@valdir_cobra_maringa
@valdir_cobra_maringa 6 ай бұрын
bravo, bravo, parabens pela dedicaçao, lindo filme. forte abraço.
@AcousticallyYours
@AcousticallyYours 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure you’ve seen comments already that you shouldn’t use polyurethane on these machines, rather, you should use a shellac. Yes, bees wax is the correct material to seal the gasket. There are also rebuild kits available for these reproducers too. Be careful with the bearings that are in the tips of the governor as they are easy to lose, and hard to replace if lost!
@Tatal.b
@Tatal.b 9 ай бұрын
Excelente restauro, muito bom e bonito, parabéns 👏👏👏👏👏
@neilhaas
@neilhaas 9 ай бұрын
The First World War Battle of Vimy Ridge. Nice restoration. 🤝🤗🤩😁😀😊😎🤓🌟🌟
@Lordoug973
@Lordoug973 8 ай бұрын
What type of rubber was used for the micam gasket?
@AlexK-nu9qj
@AlexK-nu9qj 5 ай бұрын
Заводну пружину не витягали, не мили та не змащували. Це незручно, але необхідно. Впливає на передачу момента ча час роботи механізма при відтворенні запису. З повагою!
@EstefaneAo.Maldonato
@EstefaneAo.Maldonato 7 ай бұрын
Hello good afternoon Love Brazil ❤❣️❤️👏👏👏
@hobbitreet
@hobbitreet 5 ай бұрын
I have one of these I found in a cleanout I was doing. I hate to toss it out and would rather send it to someone that could use the parts; it is mostly disassembled.
@plasmaxer
@plasmaxer 8 ай бұрын
Is that a desktop Black and Decker workbench?
@juanpindonga405
@juanpindonga405 8 ай бұрын
and plays music too
@GizmoBeach
@GizmoBeach 3 ай бұрын
I remember the very first record. Alexander Graham Bell’s “Mr. Watson, Come Here (I want my MTv)” which was a #2 hit. 😛 $15 in 1927 $365 nearly a century later.
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
Can’t tell whether you’re serious about “the very first record” but hope you are not.
@jandec6800
@jandec6800 8 ай бұрын
słuchałem płyt z muzyką z takiego patefonu to były czasy WSZYSTKO było takie proste naturalne a obecnie szkoda pisać 🙈
@marekmatys4104
@marekmatys4104 5 ай бұрын
Wow what you used to restauration
@marekmatys4104
@marekmatys4104 5 ай бұрын
I meand things
@luizpinto4926
@luizpinto4926 5 ай бұрын
Essa corda dava para ouvir uma música inteira?
@domenicriccitelli498
@domenicriccitelli498 6 ай бұрын
Well done Sir, Thank you
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
Nice effort, but you should have found out how to do things properly instead of just winging it like this. And now you’ve shown others how to mutilate their own machine by publishing this video. A Victrola VV-IV (which is absolutely NOT the entirely different Victor IV or “Victor the Fourth”) is an extremely common and low value machine, so nothing was really lost by destroying this one. But viewers should be cautious about using anything they see in this video.
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 8 ай бұрын
*ITS IMPORTANT TO KNOW* if you listen to a new old stock record on a restored gramophone - they dont sound like this. THIS is a 10-year-old worn-out scratched record....!!! They sound AMAZINGLY good
@JjWeiss-ox9mz
@JjWeiss-ox9mz 8 ай бұрын
Sorry for the audio spikes.
@bennischwarzfisch1828
@bennischwarzfisch1828 8 ай бұрын
War keine gute Idee, den Filz mit Sprühkleber auf dem Plattenteller zu leimen. In dem Sprühkleber sind Stoffe drin, die nicht gut für die Schellackplatten sind. Ansonsten Respekt vor der Arbeit und viel Spaß beim Hören der alten Schätze.
@claudiosoto2447
@claudiosoto2447 9 ай бұрын
Tengo el orgullo de decir que fui uno de los disyokey de esos tiempos aún lo recuerdo ya habían otros antes que yo ja ja ja . Y algunos eran encargados y tenían buenas disciplinas ja ja ja
@РасулМагомедов-ш3ф
@РасулМагомедов-ш3ф 9 ай бұрын
Very good 👏👏👏👏👏
@juniorarauz358
@juniorarauz358 7 ай бұрын
Simplemente, genial 👍👌👍
@Singlepole
@Singlepole 8 ай бұрын
J’ai été vraiment surpris que la banane ait duré le plus longtemps.
@hirofumimomose5014
@hirofumimomose5014 7 ай бұрын
This machine will last for next 100 years.
@stevengeier7566
@stevengeier7566 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, that's NOT a full resto on one of these.He never even rebuilt the motor! Spring barrel should have come apart.Regrease the spring.Rebuilt many of these...and this not close to a full rest...🤔
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
And with that additional guidance, the poor folks that are prone to getting guidance from this video will get to add the lacerations (or worse) they get from the spring as it escapes from its container. Wheeee!
@sethyo66
@sethyo66 19 күн бұрын
It's ok.. it will be fine... No one was harmed in the making of this video....
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 19 күн бұрын
Correct. Only the phonograph was destroyed.
@aldovassalli
@aldovassalli 8 ай бұрын
Complimenti per il restauro io ne ho un pierrot inglese ciao
@Алик-Звездунов
@Алик-Звездунов 7 ай бұрын
Nice👍🏻😊
@nisonpapern2446
@nisonpapern2446 6 ай бұрын
Are you willing to fix it? I saw you being really upset.
@jake-qk4jt
@jake-qk4jt 7 ай бұрын
Cool style record player
@MegaDivertisment
@MegaDivertisment 8 ай бұрын
somewhat careless manufacturing, does not impress in terms of technique and craftsmanship! Such a device must be worked with care!
@andrejwagner8114
@andrejwagner8114 4 ай бұрын
Das ist voll cool 😊
@ильяПетров-ю2и
@ильяПетров-ю2и 9 ай бұрын
Интересная подача материала. Ничего не говорить, но при этом сопеть носом😂.
@jtmac9084
@jtmac9084 Ай бұрын
Great job...now I'm gonna try it on my own gramphone. Wish me luck.😃😃😃
@STC614
@STC614 9 ай бұрын
I have to ask, why use a synthetic sealer instead of shellac? Bees wax would help as well…😢
@DarthDJJD
@DarthDJJD 9 ай бұрын
Compared to other restoration channels, this was subpar. No disassembling of the motor and cleaning each part, the wood was not fully sanded, the brass was not fully polished, and the felt turntable was off center. Need to be more professional.
@ivanrubenlopeznunez3947
@ivanrubenlopeznunez3947 9 ай бұрын
Restoring doesn't imply full dissasembly and make things look like new. It's about bringing old stuff back to life in reasonable good conditions. The risk of ruining the whole thing if you disassemble the spring motor is very high I presume. This object is more than 100 years! Over-restoration would be a mistake that Mr. BOM Review avoided wisely.
@BOMReviews
@BOMReviews 9 ай бұрын
@@ivanrubenlopeznunez3947 Thank you for your comment. "Bringing old stuff back to life in reasonably good condition" might be the new tagline for my channel!
@fee_enelya4435
@fee_enelya4435 8 ай бұрын
Fake sound at the end, you can't play a 33rpm vinyl on a 78rpm gramophon. Speeds are different and grooves are not the same.
@k.m.alaminbaqee
@k.m.alaminbaqee 7 ай бұрын
This type of long Player can run 78-56-33 rpm cause it has governor drive speed control system. I have a peace in my home, I am got it’s from my father. He like it’s too much.
@GeorgeTheGentleman
@GeorgeTheGentleman 7 ай бұрын
@@k.m.alaminbaqeeno, it can’t. This type of player is meant to play strictly 78 Rpm records, the sound coming out of that machine is real, but the record is now torn completely.
@TefnutIVNastula
@TefnutIVNastula Ай бұрын
willkommen zu brechstangen restaurierung ... junge wen du kein freigefühl hast dann solltest du das restauieren denen überlassen die das haben...
@vvishnitsky100
@vvishnitsky100 9 ай бұрын
should use lacquer, not Poly
@EliasFazInvencao
@EliasFazInvencao 6 ай бұрын
Uma dica substitua a manivela por um motor de máquina de lavar 😅😅😅
@chrismayer3919
@chrismayer3919 4 ай бұрын
I think gramophones had cylinder ‘records’ didn’t they?
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
There were disc players and cylinder players. Gramophone is the British term for a disc phonograph.
@خالدالبيومي-ظ1ز
@خالدالبيومي-ظ1ز 9 ай бұрын
Perfect❤
@dr.skipkazarian5556
@dr.skipkazarian5556 9 ай бұрын
Nice work, but have you figured out why there are Chinese characters on the label?
@BOMReviews
@BOMReviews 9 ай бұрын
The Chinese symbols mean "Registered Trademark". I don't know how widely they were sold there, but it is a little surprising that they were at all in 1917.
@Floyd-o2f
@Floyd-o2f 4 ай бұрын
I have one like it.😊
@nisonpapern2446
@nisonpapern2446 5 ай бұрын
Looking at the actions, there is no craftsmanship at all.
@ronniewahab8749
@ronniewahab8749 4 ай бұрын
@davesmith2262
@davesmith2262 Ай бұрын
I think the bbc are still using them 😊
@dmp7712
@dmp7712 8 ай бұрын
No he podido quitar el plato del mío
@DilmarMaestro-i6s
@DilmarMaestro-i6s 8 ай бұрын
Gostei muito do tango no fim
@mohansundarpandian7200
@mohansundarpandian7200 7 ай бұрын
This is not a record Player. This is a Gramaphone. It works by winding a wide spring placed in side a round box. I had two long time ago but gave it a before a few years.
@TheDapperLynx
@TheDapperLynx Ай бұрын
This is a record player (referred to at the time as a "phonograph", though these two terms mean the same thing). Gramophone is a British colloquial term for record player.
@christo930
@christo930 7 ай бұрын
That 15 Dollar price is officially 401 Dollars today. But there is whole lot of BS in the long term inflation numbers. Using Gold as the benchmark, it's more like 1500 using today's money.
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps a better benchmark is to recognize that Henry Ford began paying his autoworkers a $5/day wage not too long before this machine was marketed. So ponder the relationship between this machine and 3 days’ wages.
@christo930
@christo930 2 ай бұрын
@@busterdoggboye4059 Ford was paying a lot more money than everyone else. Five Dollars a day was not even close to the standard of 1917 for entry level work.
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it’s still a useful comparison because it’s a job category that still exists today. Not a perfect benchmark by any means, but certainly a good calibration point if one considers the perceived value of a dollar today might be comparable to the perceived value of a penny (or less) then.
@christo930
@christo930 2 ай бұрын
@@busterdoggboye4059 OK, take gold, a long time monetary metal. Price for an ounce of gold was 20 Dollars in 1917. Today it is at like 2500 Dollars an ounce, more than 100 times the price in 1917. A brand new model T was 360 Dollars unchanged from 1916, but down from 850 Dollars in 1908. Really, inflation adjustment is very difficult because to begin with, so little is made here today while the US was more like China today in 1917. With all of the productivity improvements, things should be dramatically cheaper than they were. Inflation is a tax on all of society. This is why we saw dramatic inflation in the first 1/2 of the 40s with WW2 and again in the early 50s with Korea. It reared its ugly head again in the 60s with Vietnam, the space program and all the new welfare programs (called guns and butter then).
@rogerpatrongonzalez5800
@rogerpatrongonzalez5800 9 ай бұрын
🥃👍👏🥃👍👏🥃👍👏🥃👍👏🥃👍👏🥃👍👏
@RonaldoSilva-tn8in
@RonaldoSilva-tn8in 9 ай бұрын
Restaurada vitrola toca discos 💿📀😉
@manuelk4511
@manuelk4511 9 ай бұрын
👌wow
@ПетрЯковлев-к5м
@ПетрЯковлев-к5м 8 ай бұрын
😃👏👍
@felixandrade9317
@felixandrade9317 3 ай бұрын
Isso não é um toca disco e um gramofone
@RRCfortuna
@RRCfortuna 8 ай бұрын
Видео интересное,но ....прости мужик- Реставрация это не твоё.Я бы такому "мастеру" после этого просмотра видео никогда бы не отдал бы на восстановление.
@2바이오
@2바이오 4 ай бұрын
댓글
@CoreyDukes
@CoreyDukes 9 ай бұрын
That blue background behind the workbench is distracting.
@BOMReviews
@BOMReviews 9 ай бұрын
Tried something new - thanks for the feedback.
@KojiWada060724
@KojiWada060724 7 ай бұрын
登 録 商 標
@wiwingmargahayu6831
@wiwingmargahayu6831 9 ай бұрын
Zamzam water
@NandakumarJNair32
@NandakumarJNair32 5 ай бұрын
Not record player, Gramaphone.
@chrismayer3919
@chrismayer3919 4 ай бұрын
It’s called a gramophone because only my grama had one. 😆
@KinG_KJ
@KinG_KJ 4 ай бұрын
It was also called a record player in those days.
@busterdoggboye4059
@busterdoggboye4059 2 ай бұрын
No, none of this is true. It was called a “talking machine” by its manufacturer, and a “phonograph” colloquially. “Record player” was common usage from the 30’s onward, generally used in reference to the electrically powered and amplified units that became available at that time. “Gramophone” is the colloquial term in Great Britain and the commonwealth, and not applicable to an American machine such as this.
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