Bringing WW1 Tactics to a WW2 Setting - Company of Heroes

[@Valefisk]

WE'RE BACK BABY also please watch blackadder it's the best bit of television ever made imo

[@sarkhan_guy]

Valefisk it is nearly. Monty Python’s Flying Circus is better imo.

[@Nimsy0001]

Finally more war crimes

[@NoFlu]

Building a Maginot around all of France sure was a cunning plan.

[@lukivanknobi5428]

Please don't say panther, it's pronounced Panter, I'm German so I know

[@NoFlu]

@@lukivanknobi5428 Almost like he's saying the name translated into english since he, you know, speaks english....

[@xcritic9671]

"How do you counter a sniper if you have no vehicles?" you know the British ran into this exact same problem in WW1, you just use your own snipers and you have a lot more of them.

[@mateuszmurak9965]

Yeah, and Valefisk's infantry squad had the sniper ability for 35ammo - just to counter these snipers

[@cornblaster7003]

no, what you do is you glass everything in the general direction of where the sniper is with artillery, that's how most snipers were dealt with

[@xcritic9671]

@@cornblaster7003 assuming that you know where they are that might work, otherwise you're hoping for the best at that point.

[@cornblaster7003]

@@xcritic9671 that's exactly how ww1 snipers were dealt with tho, they'd see someone get shot and order artillery to glass the entire area they think it was coming from, snipers were well known for not firing more than a few shots from their positions due to the enemy artillery immediately considering them a primary target and shelling it

[@xcritic9671]

@@cornblaster7003 again, that works if you know what you're shooting at, but as you said the sniper knows to move after shooting and to expect artillery. Countersnipers were probably more effective if an available option.

[@guleble6000]

Priest crew log 135: “The battle has been going on for 5 hours, the general continues ordering barrages, at this point we have used 10 times more ammunition than was in the vehicle in the first place, but it doesn’t run out, the Germans push and die, we push and die, please save us”

[@Cybermat47]

“Also this weird Japanese girl keeps fangirling over every tank we see, even the ones shooting at her.”

[@tisormorris5677]

"also the damn ailles are going insane with the tanks and the Germans won't stop freaking coming and this useless damn artillery gun on this "thing" won't do shit in close range war is hell"

[@bayurukmanajati1224]

@@Cybermat47 If only, Girls und Panzer have casualty. Real casualty. With no brutal animation so it would not get censored.

[@cloud-homestudio8128]

@@bayurukmanajati1224 creepy guro guy

[@bayurukmanajati1224]

@@AmyRovin-ie2jr Ah yes, I did known that too. That only brings GuP to war crime stories after all. It's not good then.

[@LagsterFragster]

"You can't get flanked if your whole country is a fort ya know" *Agrees in Swiss*

[@michaelmaloney2925]

Lagster Fragster I mean you're not wrong. Switzerland literally has anti-tank barns and machine gun equipped rocks.

[@raymartcarreon5150]

now thats why Germany and Italy doesnt invade Switzerland

[@peterongan9655]

@@raymartcarreon5150 Yep, it wasn't worth it for the German. Plus they got an amazing bank!

[@Youtubechannel-dq3zg]

There's no such thing as a Swiss language. They speak German or French.

[@andudud]

@@KZbinchannel-dq3zg i mean technically there is a swiss language

[@andy7bianca]

If "guns down a medic" isn't heard in the first 5minutes of the video then it's not a true Valefisk video

[@armorfrogentertainment]

*first minute

[@somethingsomethingcrotasen1643]

*First 30 seconds

[@MarcosAlexandre-no3qx]

if war crime isnt committed in five minutes, it isnt a true Valefisk video

[@kinagrill]

Except if it's incest-related.

[@slytherclaw9159]

@@kinagrill or it's genetic alteration related

[@hotdogfingerz9674]

Bringing WW1 tactics to Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga

[@mikeg2092]

7:02 "the AI has gone insane." Greyhound Scout Car proceeds to drive full speed torwards the front in reverse.

[@DuckSwagington]

tbf Haig was one of the first Generals to embrace combined arms warfare so maybe using the slowest and shittiest tank you can find might have been an idea

[@theduchyofmilanball3157]

So, a black prince then

[@TheBuster0926]

The Black Prince is dope...in Mowas2

[@purplefood1]

He also managed to use cavalry and bicycle mounted infantry.

[@Red19487]

5:09 Lieutenant: You are to assault the enemy while under the cover of artillery Valefisk: Assault the enemy (inner Commissar emerges) BUT DON'T STOP THE ARTILLERY!

[@inquisitorialllama638]

HAPPY KRIEG GASMASK NOISES !!!

[@Xenometer117]

We’re going back to vraks boys

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

“Don’t let them touch the Priests” - Valefisk 2019

[@averylividmoose3599]

Let the Priests touch them first

[@bayurukmanajati1224]

If coh have Bishop, The Brits will be sacred army.

[@pambansangbayaw4718]

Don't let priests touch the kids

[@johanness3850]

the turns have tabled

[@joshuadoll9000]

The priests are the only ones allowed to do the touching around here

[@tomlabbate6253]

"Dont worry the UN doesnt exist yet" Geneva conventions: *am i a joke to you?*

[@samuellund1377]

Germans after murdering "The Great Escape" people: "Yes"

[@houndoftexas5723]

Pretty damn big joke... the infantry refer to it as 'Geneva Suggestions'

[@tomlabbate6253]

@@houndoftexas5723 LOL 😂 you made my day

[@houndoftexas5723]

@@tomlabbate6253 my brother told me that one after his second deployment over seas, that and break it down barney style

[@Rojoyerf]

The League of Nations: I know I'm am a joke to you

[@mankomamada2545]

Maybe next time bring ww4 tactics into ww2? "Me throw rock now" "I throw stick too" Combined arms tactics.

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

age of empires tactics

[@dataexpunged3914]

This is a surprisingly big brain joke

[@vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489]

Ah yes, the infamous Einstein quote.

[@cr8867]

I haven't seen enough war crimes within the past few months, thanks Vale

[@kriegofficergary6921]

This aged like milk

[@bayeuxx]

@@kriegofficergary6921 fr, ❤️🇺🇦

[@MrTigracho]

I have seen quite a lot this last week.

[@TheTiberianWolf]

"How are you supposed to have a complicated defense with these new fangled tank things?" it's like they were designed for breakthroughs!

[@HexAyed]

Valefisk's troops upon finding out that they're under his command. "I made a note in my diary on my way here. It simply says, "Bugger""

[@LynxHylix]

2 minutes in and already a medic has been slaughtered, nice

[@NovelPond]

vale- "snipers are genuinely the worst thing in the game" me- just counter AWP them SMmyH

[@NovelPond]

samuel haines cz or go home tbh

[@NovelPond]

samuel haines you are right i don’t. I kill Them with my knife from spawn

[@vanobliosca4882]

if you can't kill a sniper then bring him the bren.

[@nickwang4551]

Greatest tactician this world has ever witnessed

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

Nick Wang would have been better if he actually built trenched, how can you do ww1 without trenches?

[@Model_Guy]

Britain invented the tank during WW1, so you could have technically used one

[@passonthestar3689]

Using armored cars would be more accurate because tanks werent much more than that at first

[@t.w3280]

The priest would be fine, Britain did invent spgs.

[@julesLF]

Mmh... french Renault f15

[@GamerGuy249]

@@t.w3280 Technically the Priest is U.S.

[@bennyjoe1990]

@@GamerGuy249 Counts as war aide then?

[@Freesorin837]

15:36 Don’t you see, Valefisk? Just like at Dunkirk, the Jerries ran out of fuel! They pushed too far too fast and now their tanks can go no further. Their logistics cannot keep up, so now is the time to evacuate all the Tommy boys across the channel and back to England and prepare for the invasion of the home islands! Also, if you want trench warfare in CoH, download the Great War mod for this game. It’s on the steam storefront (free) and it gives you a mode where you get 999 popcap, along with officers that can call down heavy artillery anywhere, landships, minenwerfers, stokes mortars, and a whole bunch of other WWI goodies.

[@SpectreofEurope21]

The "Jerries" didnt ran out of fuel they stopped because they needed to wait for the walking Infantry...

[@SpectreofEurope21]

@Peter Lustig jup

[@EntropicMalevolence]

They had stopped because the blitz had meant the infantry line troops were far behind the tanks, so it was ordered that they would not engage as to prevent the tanks being counter-encircled.

[@Freesorin837]

Okay, I get it, I don’t know anything about history. Cool your jets people.

[@PolishNomad95]

@@EntropicMalevolence that and coke-boy Göring wanted to wave the Luftwaffe's dick around in front of the rest of the German military.

[@einarorsteinson1890]

So vale have you heard of the eastern front mod for this game? It's great you can play as the soviet union and use conscript infantry which has guns as an optional upgrade.

[@Someone-lr6gu]

Jesus Christ, w h y.

[@Crankiebox99]

sugar daddy 69 communism.mp3

[@Screamingurchin]

sugar daddy 69 he has company of heroes 2, which is already a eastern front game.

[@einarorsteinson1890]

@@Screamingurchin yeah but you cant have teleporting partisans, drugged upp ss members and t34 with flamenwerfers in coh 2 can you, I mean c'mon you cant even give your soldiers methamphetamine as the germans for crying out loud

[@TheHughgee]

@@einarorsteinson1890 there is actually a general ability that lets you spawn partisans anywhere on the map, and you can get a kv1 with a flamethrower

[@1chaplain]

"They can't possibly shoot you down when there's a lot of you" - every commisar in 40k

[@tanith117]

"But if you don't charge, I will Personally shoot you" Also every Commissar in 40k

[@alanwestmoreland6152]

"I keep sending the same men over and over again to come back with less, so I replaced them and just have to get them sent out to get shot at again." Every battle the imperium has fought ever.

[@anubisd613]

War crimes? Did I hear war crimes? LET ME INNN

[@hannibalburgers477]

Who are you supposed to be, Rudolf Höss?

[@ulisesdemostenes7074]

"Company of War Crimes" "Tales of Civilian Genocides"

[@TightsGamingTTV]

"Gonna make the somme look like a joke" - Vale At this point, you really need to go to the Hague

[@sar_ptolemy]

First trench built 13:35 minutes into the video, that was your problem smh my head Joke aside coh 1 trenches are actually really strong for some reason, rifle and cannon fire don’t really do anything to them, only like hand grenades and artillery

[@burstingwizard975]

Well, the Germans came up with the idea of building bunkers under the trenches and staying in there when the enemy was shelling them, negating the effectiveness of enemy artillery. I imagine the allies picked this up ince they found out

[@magosexploratoradeon6409]

Well I mean... Trenches do shield the unit from rifle fire since the only part that's poking from it is the head.

[@thetrexgaming901]

Clearly you didnt use shotgun, we all know germans cant survive those

[@thezeitos469]

Its like Kryptonite. Just more effective. I dont even know why. My personal theory is, that because the Romans never used shotguns against us, we never developed a natural immunity against it. As a result shotguns are extremly deadly for us. I bet if you shoot me with a shotgun right now, I would probably die.

[@jonme225]

@@thezeitos469 hmm it makes sense

[@sauronmauron6965]

@@thezeitos469 as an italian I can confirm that.....we vaccinate our babies when they are 3 years old with a Benelli,and they develop an immunity towards shotguns

[@deathkorpofkriegguardsmen9355]

Crap they know my weakness

[@beurteilung713]

@@thezeitos469 MR SCIENCE MAN

[@ultra-papasmurf]

"When in doubt, just use artillery like a shotgun and slap em in the face." Valefisk 2019

[@Duffy997]

should play this with the actual Great war mod. It has gas.... I mean it has smelly clouds that are not banned under the Geneva convention

[@cigan900]

Spicy air?

[@PaperEater_]

Forbidden air conditioner

[@randomnepali7772]

*when a mobile force of overwhelming panzers and air support can't seem too break through a couple o' rifle bois with their two buddies, arty and arty with legs* Guderian: Wait, that's illegal.

[@aegeanharrier6648]

Thats what stukas are for

[@bennyjoe1990]

"Your not having fun till your 7ft deep in your own shit! Get digging!" - Valefisk 2019 My favorite quote from this channel so far

[@jesper504]

They cant gun you all down: Famous last words at somme

[@chrismath149]

The Maginot line was supposed to force a German attack force through Belgium. So in a sense, it did not fail. The French Army did. But not the Maginot line.

[@wickederebus]

Okay, now WW2 tactics in a WW1 scenerio

[@nazeonrave2501]

WW1 generals: It’s not called retreating it’s called marching backwards

[@boooster101]

The nazis had a nice term for that: frontbegradigung (transl.: Front line realignment)

[@gajdosssebestyen7369]

"They can't break through,but we can't break out..." Ladies and gentlemen,ww2 tactics in one sentence

[@jamielonsdale3018]

You forgot a few major components of this type of doctrine. You plant landmines _everywhere_ along the front lines to create a definitive no mans land, ideally reinforced by a natural barrier such as a river, then you hit beyond the minefield with the artillery to 'motivate' the enemy to push into your minefield to close with and engage your artillery. You then pair this by putting a machine-gun behind every other bush and every fifth brick on a wall, and anti-tank with clear fields of fire in an ambush position. Finally, you test the enemies defences periodically to see if they have been attrited sufficiently to make a breakthrough. There are two kinds of break-through. Partial, where you manage to gain ground but the enemy has sufficient depth in their defence to respond, and total, where you punch a hole clean through their lines and can flow in forces deep into enemy territory and occupy it. This commonly causes defeat via mass-rout, but in CoH could be adapted to a win condition by conquest facilitated by force regeneration outscaling the enemies, combined by a series of decisive advances during periods where the enemy is attempting to regenerate their combat power. Suppress, decimate, probe, push, entrench, repeat. I am not a trained soldier. There are plenty of trained soldiers far more qualified to teach doctrine. Take what I say with a pinch of salt and as a basic guide to WWI style doctrine. Bear in mind that if the enemy manages to create a weakness, the tank was basically invented to facilitate the exploitation of it. Your defensive gameplay needs to be rock-solid in order for this to be particularly effective - although if it is, you can have some hilarious games rolling over WWII armies using WWI and inter-war doctrine.

[@gentleshark972]

"Well this one is in France, and looks like a swamp" Hate to break it to ya, but although France had swamps, it was flanders that was one marsh-line.

[@DetectiveMekova]

So fun fact about the Maginot, the plan was to wrap the Maginot along the Belgian-German border, but Belgium was like "nah, we don't want Frenchies on our property". However, the French didn't want to continue the line along the French-Belgian border because A. They didn't want to isolate a potential ally, and B. They wanted access to possibly meet the German forces midway to France if possible to protect Belgium. No one accounted for the speed at which German forces went through Belgium and the Ardennes.

[@purplefood1]

Belgium also didn't want the war to be happening in their country as it tends to make a mess. As a result they attempted a diplomatic policy where they tried to convince the Germans to not invade and at the same time built up their own border with the Germans to please France. Unfortunately the Germans bypassed to neutralised the forts with commandos.

[@NightHao]

"I want to play WW1" "I cant advance, what do?" Huh...

[@Sturmdude]

Black-adder Goes Forth references rejuvenate my soul. The scale of the ground gained in this video is 1/1, so as you can see it wasn't for nothing.

[@Volthoom]

Well Vale, clearly, the correct answer's always been "more artillery".

[@-Raylight]

" Company of *_Heroes_* " _first 5 mins in Valefisk already showed us dead medics_ *Press X to doubt* I definitely don't want to call them heroes

[@requiem7817]

0:53 Of course his inspiration would have the nickname *The Butcher of the Somme!*

[@linkieloos]

"This one's for Boris Johnson." Oh please god no XD And those Blackadder references are pure gold.

[@clover4601]

the "support of real engineers" (I think that's what it was called) could also be a good choice because it increases the life of the structures

[@fletcherbarrett6928]

I love how the new Maginot line includes a small incursion into Switzerland

[@neathizar9743]

Welp, nice talkin to y'all, see you guys next year

[@JonatasAdoM]

0:49 Best star fort with a scar I've ever seen.

[@samuellund1377]

*Field Marshall Haig sweeping troops into the dustpan intensifies*

[@n1thecaptain965]

Vale... idk if you knew this, but some people actually made a ww1 mod for this game, it's a lot easier to do this challenge in that because you don't have to use a priest to fight a panther

[@pambansangbayaw4718]

"don't let them touch the priests" Me: "don't let priests touch the kids"

[@nicorozner7417]

Priest stats: K/D: 1285373881 Accuracy: Irrelevant Shots fired: Yes

[@sand0decker]

"Bring the British War doctrine back where it belongs."... in Mainland Europe

[@frenchsoldier8485]

Ah the British way: forcing their way on ither countries

[@elgenerico5453]

You lot are talking mad crap for someone within Imperialisation range.

[@frenchsoldier8485]

@@elgenerico5453 *You're talking a lot of crap for someone in communism range*

[@cigan900]

@@frenchsoldier8485 tell that to the Lee Enfield and the bagpipe

[@yusuf_kizilkaya]

this game features some sort of a "learning AI" which produces units based on your units you were spamming infantry so the enemy AI started using snipers and armored cars. your allies started using artillery and AT to counter these. then you started using mobile artillery so enemy AI deployed AT infantry. as all three of your team was using artillery at this point your allies got run over. enemy AI is always hesitant to rush your base but at this point they were strong enough to just spam tanks so the tanks just sit right out of your base doing nothing so yes, WW1 tactics actually confuse the AI

[@ethantvvidshouse521]

"Bringing WW1 tactics to a WW2 setting". Me: *YES*

[@alexlol2678]

“We’re gonna make The Somme look like a fucking joke” YOU CANT SAY THAT

[@nicholasevans1139]

Good, our first warcrime catch of the day!...

[@punic4045]

at the end, you sounded a lot like the German High Command at the end of WWII

[@258awesomeness]

The Death Corp of Krieg would be very disappointed in "retreating"

[@someguy1313]

Its called falling back. its basically the same but you do it with style

[@RasEli03]

I fucking love this. This is probably the first video I have watched mu you. It wont be the last

[@-Raylight]

3:35 Only the results -KEKKA DAKE DA- At this point, sooner or later Valefisk will get an erasing time power

[@CalgarGTX]

It's probably been said already but the Maginot line WAS supposed to go up to the atlantic buuut due to us being french we were out of money and effort halfway trough and didn't finish it, like for everything else.

[@damjankrstevski22]

„It's okay, the UN doesn't exists yet“ .. .died.. xD

[@onefastsled]

If you want technicality, SPGs were treated, and considered for the most part, to be nothing but a mobile artillery piece, so you can lump it into the “artillery” category

[@BoredHistory]

I'm surprised he hasn't played the Far East mod yet with unarmed conscripts, and gas mortars

[@humanperson7646]

How was allowed to get a 2.5 K/D ratio out of that like wow the AI just threw themselves into the smoke flames

[@TheGlamourNazi]

"Not one step back!" Started playing the sequel there for a minute, huh?

[@ebinshumate3132]

“General haege said more artillery, but more artillery didn’t work, what do I do now?” WW1 In a nutshell, also this video is basically the allied strategy for the first three months of WW2

[@historyweeb]

4:27 you already broke the Geneva convention might as well break your own rules

[@damnyejustgotbewitchedbyth2802]

I used the cheat mod II and eastern front in COH 2 to spawn 10k conscripts from the Russian Empire (USSR with the EF mod) against the Austro-Hungarian empire in the mud and blood map Goddamit the floor was full of corpses Lot of fire from flame throwers and planes killing my infantry It was a battle between conscripts and Maxim guns It was great

[@popejohnthesecond]

"It's a long way to Tipperary"

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

This video was hilarious. Nice blackadder references and this match really shows the conditions of WW1 a lot more than I initially thought it would. Subscribed.

[@SausagesAndEgg]

But the Maginot Line didn't fail...

[@excalibur1251]

It was so Good that The germans Were scared to Even touch it so they Blew through the Flanks

[@ItsRawdraft2]

It stopped the Italians lmao

[@axiumsa4273]

I like how hw was playing british but he embodied the death korps of kreig more than anything. "You will storm the enemy position under artillery support." "Fix bayonets men, BUT DON'T STOP THE ARTILLERY."

[@maxp-ty9vh]

You should of installed the ww1 mod, it has true crimes like musterd gas arty and many more

[@prostemijenomrikejtetrukso1494]

why is this remembering me of the ww2

[@snipeyboi5934]

My favourite time of year... when valefisk finally uploads.

[@thehonestcompany867]

"All I can build are infantry, trenches, and artillery" So... Imperial Guard?

[@eagle_and_the_dragon]

"Sympathise with France" always knew you were Canadian.

[@corbinstrickland1426]

This is the only valefisk video that I genuinely felt like I was missing context for

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

All Quiet on the Western Front... because our commander has stopped making witty comebacks for the last couple hours...

[@gnarthoggnarthog8801]

The end is like the last stand from fury but on drugs + some tanks

[@mr_jiblets]

There's a WW1 mod on steam you know?

[@goganii]

Sabaton would probably write a song about your MG unit if it were real

[@soviet_tank_lover]

He's back :)

[@frenchsoldier8485]

Is your crew dead yet?

[@starlightdragon2665]

Fun historical fact; Haig literally sacrificed men like they were candy to children. The British and French threw people into the fights because they literally could not break the German lines. The allies barely cracked the lines maybe 5 times at most; and the Germans damn near took Paris in a single push. The Germans had the right idea of mobility warfare but their commanders were doing the same thing as the allies. The allies made the smart move of tanks first but it only worked so well. Ultimately what actually ended the war was the collapse of the support for allied leadership and the allies desperate need for the war to end is what brought WW1 to an end. America ended the war but only because the allies were so ready to quit they would have quit before the Germans did. Essentially alternate history would have seen the axis win if America hadn't joined the war.

[@cupofearlgreytea7651]

"The Real Reason The Maginot Line Failed Was Because It Wasn't British" *Rule Britannia Intensifies* *Tea Drinking Intensifies*

[@canpiv09]

Username checks out

[@alexxu3004]

you weren't building trenches that's why

[@MrReeseLP]

Valefisk: RETREAT RETREAT!! Me: hmm a french map with french sound :D

[@epicmediocrity2603]

How do we win in this situation.... literally the strategic language WW1 generals would use....then tea...and sandwich...and a nice walk

[@isimiel3405]

I found your problem you never fixed bayonets

[@SerRompalot]

My friends and I used to do like 2v3 or 3v4 Insane CPUs and just turtle down like mad, it's great fun setting up elaborate defensive lines.

[@lunag.1521]

0/10 not enough trenches

[@spiritualbeetle120]

The German side of the river was a battle scarred wreck. I love it

[@marionlara428]

0/10 the real Douglas Haig would have launched a cavalry charge

[@RavenWolffe77]

Rest In peace Bren Gun crew

[@yeettheheat]

Cant be flanked if you dont have a Flank

[@kevinambler4931]

Don't let them touch the Priest? Isn't it normally the other way around?