The Perplexing Disappearance of Judge Joseph F. Crater

[@BuzzFeedUnsolvedNetwork]

Make sure to leave your questions for our Post Mortem episode down below!

[@urgayaf]

Sure

[@urgayaf]

Why is my sister pregnant??

[@purityempire4294]

I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

[@ultraviolettas]

How many more episodes are there?

[@armaan5129]

For post mortem: is my father coming back from the shops

[@岡山大木]

“What would a Ryan Bergara be, shitting your pants in Thailand?” “It was Singapore”

[@ThePhoenix1]

ryan always has to hit shane with the facts, even if his dignity is on the line 😤

[@cosmicnic]

@@ThePhoenix1 this comment just made me do the straight face laugh you do around people when you dont want them to see that youre laughing. Like 😐heheheh

[@ThePhoenix1]

@@cosmicnic thanks, I guess? lol

[@arn4775]

@@cosmicnic thank you for sharing

[@MischiefHowlVA]

The way he said it... I am very unsure if he was rolling with a joke or it really happened.

[@daniellevstek1789]

Ryan: talks about a missing person Shane: I’m an ice cream man

[@tayloranderson7547]

Ryan: talks about a missing person Shane: I'm an ice cream man

[@anastasiaeqbali6933]

Also: “I can’t wait for this guy to go missing”

[@CounterMS]

Shane being shane

[@GamerBoy705_yt]

@@AxxLAfriku idc

[@bug1390]

@@AxxLAfriku hey, who are you? I've never seen you before

[@gracewsho]

Ryan hitting that ‘T’ in Crater like it owes him money

[@pootieofficalmusic]

Lol for Real every Word with a T 😂

[@beabeabea3]

I’m bawling at this

[@kelly774]

I’ve always wondered if he went through speech therapy as a child or something, and maybe that explains why he enunciates certain letters so much

[@WheelzofaDream1135]

🤣

[@junieeee]

thought I was the only one who noticed lmfao

[@luvbbea]

As a former hotel employee, finding a body in a hotel room is not fun… even more so when they have been in there for days without anyone noticing.

[@rosea1505]

I….feel like you have stories to tell.

[@yahia5476]

You just said that so casually

[@jordie2772]

this implies it was normal (or a norm for you) to find bodies in hotel rooms???,..,/,??

[@asdasdasdasdasd1596]

@@jordie2772 people probably do suicide in hotel rooms

[@nightslasher9384]

How long have you been working in your company’s hotel?

[@bridgetleekobold9979]

“I will never wear a bow tie! That is a shane madaj guarantee” Next week’s episode: Shane in a bow tie

[@abigailkaterbergcolibaba]

Fandom: dives deep into the internet to see if there's any footage of Shane in a bow tie

[@tzf04.]

@@abigailkaterbergcolibaba he's wearing one in the unsolved promo pics lmaaoo

[@jeno2252]

@@tzf04. And in his twitter profile pic

[@alex-fs9yt]

Look at Shane's Twitter pfp😂

[@sHorrorfan]

haha so original

[@warmradiator5629]

Shane saying that he would never wear a bow tie, also Shane having profile picture on twitter in which he wears a bow tie. That's it. Lies everywhere.

[@queerlittlecactus8749]

I immediately thought of that picture as soon as he said it lmao

[@-hayleymc_is_tired-5038]

If he doesn’t address this in postmortem I’ll never trust the old shanester again.

[@mohammedalshammaa2488]

shane is dressed like the joker from batman, he's just missing the bow tie

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

You’re so right I’m going to go comment on that picture now lmao

[@mrjamsherable]

Now tell me this doesn't mean he actually believes in ghosts 'n ghouls

[@CazzLacman]

shane really just said *"I'm excited for this guy to go missing. I don't like him."*

[@aceeduventures]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZOUqKuOjrtjqtE🙏🙏

[@SueBoo2]

3:15

[@paleylewis7440]

"Just steal the rich, do it" -a totally real shane quote xD

[@moistenvelopes]

Same tho

[@tieiatalks]

Because he’s white and rich. Sounds reasonable.

[@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks]

If a mob killed him I think it’s interesting he states that he’s “going swimming”- I think that could be a hint he was trying to make, if he knew he was going to be murdered. After all. There’s that mob term going swimming with the fishies

[@blabberbub733]

Huh, that's an interesting theory Could be a mob thing, since he *was* quite rich too, although I don't see why he'd just accept his death if he had the money, he could've just hired someone for security

[@dx1450]

I was thinking that too. Maybe he knew he was in trouble with the Mob and told his housekeeper that he was "going swimming" as a sort-of clue as to what was going to happen to him if he didn't take that money and get out of town. But I'm guessing the Mob caught up to him since the money was left behind.

[@pilgrim1978]

I find it ironic that he was buried under an aquarium in that case.

[@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks]

@The Thomas's Daily Report yes. That’s what I’m saying XD

[@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks]

@@pilgrim1978 ooh I didn’t think of that one. True.

[@ninah7732]

Shane: “I will NEVER wear a bow-tie.” Shane’s Twitter Profile Pic:

[@vaibhavithakur3419]

Lmao he changed it and explained why he wore it🤣

[@ninah7732]

@@vaibhavithakur3419 even in the old one he was wearing a bow tie lmaoo

[@itzy_skz6963]

He changed it lmao

[@lucyri1962]

Joseph Crater: *went missing* Ryan and Shane: *let's talk about food*

[@Jpik72]

Priorities

[@maaidaali4245]

Lmao he is right talk about food 😂🤣😂🤣

[@amayzingyoga6403]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@okaygerepied5388]

Would you rather go in cab or walking

[@jackroberts2704]

I want that steak

[@stunningstarlight2362]

ryan: trying to explain the case shane: not giving two sh*ts, “IM THE ICE CREAM MAN!”

[@aceeduventures]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZOUqKuOjrtjqtE💗

[@ICECREAMane1017]

No, I am!

[@kierstenmccarthy1598]

Am I the only one who thinks “pulling a Shane” should mean laying in a pentagram? Just me… ok…

[@midnightrose928]

Oh 100% 🤣🤣

[@ageneralsenseofconfusionan1268]

More like "Violently antagonizing the unknown with a total lack of concern."

[@advait35]

@@ageneralsenseofconfusionan1268 +1

[@blabberbub733]

Or acting possessed in a haunting location and making seizure expressions on his face while someone else is casually conversing outside

[@unbeatengamer755]

Let's go buckaroo.

[@salemsalmon8086]

person: *getting possessed by a demon* “oh they’re just pulling a Shane.”

[@eddiesroom1868]

😲

[@zeilboot]

Post mortem - suggestion: "Pulling a Shane" is definitely saying you'll never do something (wear a bowtie), but doing it anyway (in your Twitter profile picture nonetheless)

[@gerhardsmith7892]

Lmao, look at his new profile pic He's trying to hide his lies

[@melissasaint3283]

His new profile pic has an air brushed neck on it...perhaps "pulling a madaj" involves badly executed gaslighting

[@beejdude]

i really like this idea it made me laugh

[@zeilboot]

@@melissasaint3283 i just noticed omg 😂

[@ibitechildren]

NONETHELESS

[@tobybrooke5709]

Postmortem: WHERE IS THE SPINOFF WHERE YOU COVER SOLVED CASES AND THEN SHANE HAS TO GUESS WHO DID IT? DONT MAKE ME COME OVER THERE. Cheers

[@cheese8878]

PLEASE

[@normalstories8540]

Yeah if they do it they will do it on their channel not buzzfeed unsolved

[@atme365]

Buzzfeed _Solved_

[@beckyanderson988]

@@normalstories8540 what is their channel name

[@roxaskeyboy27]

@@beckyanderson988 Watcher

[@aliannarathke]

for postmortem: if he’s into politics and is insanely rich, there are bound to be people that don’t like him especially around the Great Depression. If the taxi driver is one of those people who didn’t like him and recognizes him, they could have easily kidnapped him and taken him somewhere and/or murder him. Did they ever investigate those letters or taxi driver? #postmortem #shaniac

[@bullymaguire9100]

Nah dont think so and btw I believe your theory its possible

[@bullymaguire9100]

I mean he was rich and had a good professional life as well as a good wife so I dont think he would give it all up.

[@bullymaguire9100]

I mean who does that or maybe he did maybe he started a new life with the showgirl

[@raerohan4241]

@@bullymaguire9100 I don't think so, because he would have taken some money along with him. The guy was used to living rich at that point, he wouldn't just go from a $350,000+ per year lifestyle to being a miner overnight voluntarily

[@goawayihavecommentstomake1488]

Yes, that’s the story I believe. The dancers could been paid to lie, or he got into a different cab, but I believe that in Depression era NYC, working class might get pissed off at a public servant being rich, eating steak, whoring and dancing, etc… and either decided to rob him or just bring him down a peg.

[@mauriciobelieber]

“I’m excited for this guy to go missing I don’t like him “me at a family reunion

[@poppaganja3793]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWUZZV-o5agr5I

[@user-zh8gd3gd6u]

😂 best comment I’ve seen here 🙌

[@dewarz1547]

Me too, but at school and not family reunion

[@kaitlyn5324]

Huh. I’m surprised that there wasn’t a “kidnapped by aliens” theory.

[@pixielst]

Same.

[@FlyingFocs]

There probably is, they just didnt include it because of repetition

[@devontehuntley6274]

​@@FlyingFocs And? Like the other theories weren't the same as others. It shouldn't matter how many times it's been said in cases. If it's a theory here, then include it. No need cutting anything out as it takes away from the story.

[@blabberbub733]

@@devontehuntley6274 Calm down lol. Maybe it wasn't a theory because he wasn't exactly isolated when he disappeared right? Apparently he disappeared during a trip so chances are it was dismissed because of that

[@devontehuntley6274]

@@blabberbub733 Still a theory that should he noted. No one really knew how he disappeared so there was no reason to assume he couldn't have been abducted by aliens whether he went on a trip or not.

[@Shabu10]

Stella's yearly toast to her missing husband is the most film noir thing I've ever seen

[@kittikat4124]

Imagine someone watching this and just seeing the photo and being like “hey, thats my granddad! Hes not missing, hes sitting in his chair right now”

[@Ty-fe4yl]

That would be a very old man

[@grandevocalsss9693]

Crater was born in the 1800’s so he’s probably not alive anymore

[@Grace-nr2uz]

No one said he was sitting in his chair alive

[@nathanjereb9944]

​@@Grace-nr2uz *pans over to see a skeleton sitting in the chair watching tv*

[@tobbgoblin]

For postmortem: His wife saying she “found the cash he’d taken out” is weird. I think she said that and claimed she thought he was murdered out of embarrassment and maybe wanting to believe he didn’t just run off. She didn’t go to a bar and toast to him saying, “rest in peace.” She said, “good luck wherever you are.”

[@sohinidutta97]

Good point! But we often say "wherever you are" for people we have lost as well, do we not? Maybe she wanted to believe he was still alive somewhere. Eitherways, pretty interesting!

[@applecrumpets]

I think her saying "rest in peace" would be more suspicious

[@anushkareddymarri1238]

@@applecrumpets hahaha I was thinking the same thing 🤭

[@livingdeadgirl5691]

@@sohinidutta97 yes, she could be saying it in a way, is he ended up in heaven, purgatory or hell.

[@RoninCinemaGaming]

For postmortem: I am a huge fan of your series by the way, but did he had a reason why he got missing or something also are you guys gonna do an crypted episode like the jersey devil.

[@Ren-op7zy]

for postmortem: maybe when Crater told the maid he was going swimming he meant that he was going to swim in the $80,000 like Scrooge McDuck

[@butternuts7444]

The fact that he married someone he was a divorce lawyer for is kind of baller

[@totaldestruction152]

That's what we call a "Power move."

[@allichace1363]

Well to be fair, it’s always with the divorce lawyer

[@butternuts7444]

@Abdul Jalloh truly

[@butternuts7444]

@@totaldestruction152 indeed, Total Destruction, indeed.

[@butternuts7444]

@@allichace1363 you’re not wrong

[@fabiennechundro]

Nobody: Me: imagine Shane canceling his future wedding after seeing his fiancée’ Pinterest board filled with images of the groom in bow ties

[@catdaddydonbrewer007]

Shane’s Twitter profile pic features Shane…. In a bow tie

[@syd8741]

For Postmortem: “Pulling a Shane” means to start something awesome and never finish it *cough* Hot Daga *cough* and “Pulling a Ryan” means jumping out of windows to escape danger or ghosts! Btw I’m so sad the series is coming to an end, me and my friend Samantha absolutely love you two! However, I will remain a Shaniac and they shall remain a Boogara forever!

[@frankcastle5737]

Hotdaga 4 life! So sad they arent renewing the series. Their shoes will be impossible to fill and their legacy remains as all time greatest thing to happen at buzzfeed.

[@Chachiandfriends]

They’re on the watcher now tho so at least they won’t just disappear

[@bluefox99887]

Check them out on their channel, Watcher. #wearewatcher

[@zy7326]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2LMq3iBbNmjp7s

[@brendachirinos9351]

Check Shane’s puppet history and Ryan’s are you scared series along with on their channel called “the watcher” they co-sponsor with steven lim

[@kaitlynblount7683]

Shane's hair is nearing Robert Pattinson levels of myth and beauty.

[@britniwhite4913]

😂😂😂😂

[@ShellyOlmstead]

LMFAO hopefully he doesn't turn into a sparkly vampire next.

[@Abi-do2ck]

-wheeze-

[@shnukiebear9661]

Vampire robert or wizard robert?

[@xassylax]

@@shnukiebear9661 yes

[@mugiwaradarwin4504]

*The most missingest man who ever missinged.*

[@LUTfam4]

"I'm excited for this guy to go missing. I don't like him," is the best 2021 way of saying eat the rich.

[@alyssakoo2089]

For #PostMortem: That maid is very sus. She was the one who said he wanted to go swimming, then while everyone else thought he was working or in Maine, she was the only one who knew he was at neither. He wasn't reported missing for a MONTH. "Oh don't worry he'll turn up!" Definitely in on it

[@aleysha4303]

The maid seemed to have vented after that last comment like did nobody question her

[@xxsohalalmodexx]

@@aleysha4303 she thought faking the wires task in electrical for 10 minutes was a smart move

[@SaltyPug]

She could’ve been a deep state operative. Govt is always involved in scandals

[@mxbx307]

Perhaps the maid was compromised by whoemever did it. She could have been in on it, but alternatively she could have been bribed or just frightened into silence.

[@Heyitsann]

It's always the maid

[@stepheng.5270]

#POSTMORTEM: "Pulling a Shane" is clearly seeing a ghost and being like, 'it's the wind.' "Pulling a Bergara" is seeing some toothpaste fall over in a bathroom and then making an entire career out of it. #shaniacinthestreets #boogarainthesheets

[@thestudio66]

" *Pulling a Bergara* " had me _wheezing_ .

[@sashawitwicky]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@sHorrorfan]

you need to get outside more.

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

Ooohhh my gooddd this is GOLD

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

I disagree on the toothpaste... It has to be "see *something insignificant* do something odd and made a career out of it"...

[@exlibrisa]

For the postmortem: Withdrawing a large amount of money before going to see a Broadway “ticket broker” with a “show girl” for a show you’ve “seen before”? The man was gambling big time. He probably bought that apartment for his wife with a windfall of money he got on a big win. The calls he was angry about? Debts he had to pay cause he lots big and had to pay back. Hence the big cash out. But he didn’t have enough and got to see the bottom of the Hudson for the trouble.

[@merolinpichardo8554]

Interesting

[@emmietessen-powell3795]

That’s a fantastic theory and I’m surprised it wasn’t really mentioned at all

[@thebrokeartist34]

Hmm interesting 🤔

[@celia3601]

That’s great, smart!

[@exlibrisa]

@Nicholas Ramey 1. The show just opened the day before and he'd already gone to see it. Yes people go to see the same show twice, but it is a little suspicious to be going to see it multiple times over in that time span that it merited commenting on. 2. Hey, business associates are often involved in shady deals together. Could have shared the show girl amongst other things. Or the show girl could have shared them--I'm all about equality here. She might have been the one they owed money to. 3. The money is the suspicious thing here. Since he never returned HOME after his night out on the town, this means he never took it out or he had some other stash in his NY apartment. How many other secret pockets of money is this man hiding from his wife? Is he involved in gambling or money laundering? Guess this will remain unsolved.

[@thebrocialist8300]

Shane looks like the sort of gentleman you’d find sitting alone [in a big empty suburban home] quietly dining on a big bowl of Chef Boyardee ravioli - and being strangely overdressed for the occasion.

[@hindenburg2006]

I can’t unsee this now…

[@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment]

I am now convinced that this is what Shane does in his spare time. And that it might not necessarily be his home.

[@gillianr.2175]

Shane: "I look like an ice cream man!" No shane you look like the forgotten younger brother of the hardy Boys

[@Jade-zm2tg]

ACTUALLY THOUGH LOL

[@RosenThorne]

The crime-solvers or the wrestlers?

[@claranadine1086]

Oh gosh, you're right :0

[@sunnyqueen5685]

@@RosenThorne I'm gonna have to go crime-solvers because I don't think I've ever seen Jeff in a striped shirt. Or Matt, for that matter

[@Jade-zm2tg]

@@RosenThorne the crime solvers i assume

[@anadeisimendoza4372]

QUARANTINE hit everyone different Ryan: got jacked af Shane: dyed luscious hair Me: gained 16 lbs

[@ka1tlyn_]

I gained 27 Ibs 🥲

[@onandonitgoes5957]

I got part of my mobility back in conjunction with dyed hair and socially crippling anxiety

[@GeekRaj]

I gained 59 pounds in quarantine. I am overweight now. Was 147 lbs, now I am 206.

[@Sparrowmittens]

I started collecting stuffed animals

[@uncannyvalley2113]

don't put yourself down over that

[@wisprout5416]

pulling a shane is when you’re smart in the way that nikola tesla was: smart, but very eccentric and had equally as many absolutely insane ideas as good ones. pulling a ryan is when you’re smart in the way that marie curie was: you’re dedicated to your work but it’s actively killing you

[@Maryam-mz7jo]

RYAN'S OMG PLEASE- 😂😂😂😂

[@dailleztj]

Genius comment

[@medicbabe2ID]

The most accurate and succinct way of explaining this dichotomy I've ever heard. Cheers. 🍷

[@nonexistent4270]

8:03 Jokes on you, Shane. I have anxiety. I think those thoughts 15 minutes after someone was supposed to be back.

[@jieying6824]

"I don't know hot dog math." When Shane contradicts himself after writing the Hot-Daga... #postmortem

[@proverbialloaf]

He’s acting modest but we all know the *truth*

[@poppaganja3793]

@@proverbialloaf kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWUZZV-o5agr5I

[@C4TC4T]

Also the hot dog bridge

[@gurleeennnn]

shane's hair an style be changing every season

[@zammy8655]

true

[@shooterguapo9466]

There wont be another season

[@Agaricus_cuscus]

@@shooterguapo9466 geez no need to remind us

[@sauviel6296]

After this final season, Shane's going to be bald.

[@addilyn7449]

r.i.p shanes hair

[@DannyHFrey]

“Wagner” immediately put me back in the Natalie Wood case mindset

[@wowthatwasgood7700]

Understandable, have a nice day.

[@maximuffin6395]

boyz

[@DannyHFrey]

@@maximuffin6395 two mice

[@Illicitaffairsx3]

ME TOO...HMMM

[@cosmicnic]

@@DannyHFrey watch owt

[@Nemo_Anom]

Regardless of what actually happened to Good Time Joe, whether he ran away and started a new life for whatever reason, or whether he was murdered or died of an accident, it used to be REALLY easy to disappear. I miss that.

[@robo740]

The only reason this series is ending is because shane and ryan are running out of words for every new episode title.

[@aceeduventures]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZOUqKuOjrtjqtE

[@xXInfinityDiesXx]

LUL

[@zoologistvince2664]

Thesaurus ain't working no more

[@trumangrey2940]

For the post-mort: very odd that he told his wife he'd be back for her birthday and when she still hadn't heard a peep from him over a month later she still didn't report him missing. Old chap might've had mistresses but I think his wife got the last laugh when she inevitably inherited all his money and then got to celebrate the anniversary of her success each year in such a dramatic way

[@glennwang9685]

So it took 1 yrs missing... LOL

[@echolightning604]

But she did go looking for him

[@tayloranderson7547]

Inherited all all of his money then go to celebrate reversary of success each year in such a dramatic way

[@Sword4000]

#postmortem I think Shane should follow his doubt and go to the aquarium, destroy it and find the bones 🦴

[@outlaws2945]

Ayeee, I watch your vids

[@JkRai_]

Aay sword been with u since 20k, miss the og mine craft war

[@jenajelema]

wassuo sword

[@whatsinaname1709]

he should free the penguins while he's at it. took a bunch of kids on a field trip there while i was working as a camp councelor. most miserable bunch of penguins i've ever seen.

[@TheGothicLibrarian]

Wouldn't they have found them (or smashed them without realizing it) while putting foundations? 🤔 idk how stuff is built in the US

[@heatherclyde6653]

For post mortem: His claim of "going swimming" makes me think the mob theory is onto something. Maybe he ended up "sleeping with the fishes" 🤷‍♀️

[@Barbwire866]

Exactly

[@crossroadaj]

For post mortem: I think it's just weird that nobody noticed he was missing for a month. Not even his wife was suspicious, and you would think she would be upset that he just ignored her birthday, especially when he said he will return on time to celebrate. Makes you wonder what exactly was going on. What about the maid? She was dismissed by him when he wanted to go for "a swim", but didn't she return the next day or whatever and notice Crater just wasn't there? Edit: my bad, I forgot that the wife sent a chauffeur. Still, seems weird that a missing persons case is announced so late to the public, when every moment counts. Also, I'm still sus of the maid.

[@niallhumphreys6918]

But the wife was suspicious, which is why she sent the chauffeur to New York.

[@carlnickson7353]

a month later is when the story went public and official, not when people noticed

[@matewhatthefuck6516]

The wife sent their chauffeur when he didn't come on her birthday. It was only a month later that they went public with the case

[@TheSaneHatter]

This is the consequence of living in a time when long-distance phone calls cost small fortunes, to say nothing of living long before a brief loss of cell-phone contact was suspicious. It was genuinely hard to keep track of people back then, and moreover, this guy seems to have been surrounded by people who had been trained not to question him.

[@poppaganja3793]

@@TheSaneHatter kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWUZZV-o5agr5I

[@kirstievanwyk120]

Shane: I WILL NEVER WEAR A BOWTIE Everyone who saw his Twitter pfp: All men do is lie

[@itzy_skz6963]

He changed it lmao

[@Bxdbxy_]

He shopped it out 💀

[@zebrababy9019]

I feel like they dismissed the phone calls that made him so angry. I feel like that has to do with his murder.

[@Maddie-qu3kp]

#postmortem: "Pulling a Shane" is actually seeing demons but not telling Ryan about them

[@selinaw.9751]

*actually being a demon Fixed it for ya XD

[@AlexNoIts]

You mean like in the mirror?

[@Rawt173]

“Pulling a Shane” “F*CK YOU, GHOSTS/DEMONS/SPIRITS!” And then giving two sh!ts about the consequences while Ryan just panics XD

[@jackwerner2453]

For the post mortem: Shane claims he will never wear a bow tie, when his twitter profile pic is him literally wearing a bow tie? What other lies has the Son of Squatch been perpetuating?

[@bully6957]

* *Wheeze* * 🤣

[@seal3611]

For postmortem: A tidbit that might lead some credibility to him just leaving and starting anew: apparently Sally Lou Ritz, the showgirl, went missing herself a few weeks after Crater did. Especially considering they'd gone out to dinner the night of the disappearance, I think it could be possible they ran off together.

[@b.f.2461]

Or she was eliminated?

[@AriVirtual]

Oh? Hope they got this in post mortem!

[@DanielleVlog365]

WHAT Ok, see, I'm convinced it was the mob now, lol. Or a disgruntled husband. Was she married?

[@jasper3042]

Missing missing, never seen again, or she went home to Ohio or Kansas or wherever showgirls come from?

[@mallboyballs]

@@seal3611 apparently it’s been confirmed that she fled new york for california where she changed her name, married, and had children. she passed away in 2000. her grandchild reached out to author ariel lawhon who wrote a book about the case. seems to be pretty credible, not a gag, and you can read more about it on the authors website.

[@cathead772]

"full and tipsy, that's how i want to go out" is absolutely the greatest philosophy to live by

[@just_a_tiny_dinosaur5014]

For the post mortem: if you guys were going to “disappear” yourselves, how would you do it/where would you choose to hide out??? (I’d go up to Alaska, I feel like that’s an easy place to stay anonymous, and it’s really pretty)

[@theeclectic2919]

Lots of suspicious murders take place in Alaska.

[@amandajean7738]

Hey, you could go to the Berkshires in Massachusetts. Its really remote. Although, you may get abducted by aliens the area is known for its alien abductions. So you'll actually be missing for real.

[@one.2622]

That's a cringey way of asking it

[@poppaganja3793]

@@one.2622 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWUZZV-o5agr5I

[@justice9818]

greece

[@leejoohoney5485]

Shane: What would a Bergara be? Sort of shitting your pants in Thailand? Ryan: It was Singapore. Shane: Oh, sorry. 😂

[@NeverTrustGhost]

9:10 😂😂😂

[@Eelynntravelchannel]

Hahaha!!

[@DickDiamond74]

he corrected him really fast lol

[@katiemorrison888]

For the post mortem: if Shane is so against bow ties, how come the professor from puppet history has one? What does Shane think of his bow tie

[@ahumanyoudontknow5777]

Just replying to get this further up!

[@beabeabea3]

Shane’s not even in that show 🙄 why would he care j/

[@samanthahill3872]

@@beabeabea3 Shane is literally the puppeteer 😂

[@beabeabea3]

@@samanthahill3872 lmfaoooo I was joking hence the j/ (I think that’s what it means 💀) either way I was kidding 😭

[@sockwearer]

@@beabeabea3 just an fyi it’s /j, not j/ :)

[@rajkumarsa6620]

Post mortenm: Why is no one talking about the maid? I fell like she knew too much for just a woman who cleaned the Judges room. They probably should have interogated her more in my opinion.

[@abeergupta2271]

For PostMortem: He might have withdrawn the $5150 to leave for his wife to make sure she'd be alright after he 'disappears' He might've been threatened or extorted for money which is what made him abruptly leave Maine, he went back and formulated a plan to get out of there as inconspicuously as possible, met with friends, had a couple drinks and then strode off into the dark to never be seen again, classic crater

[@salemmckenna49]

OH YOU ONTO TO SUMN

[@mjkupn]

Yeah but why would he tell her he’d be back by her birthday and give her hope?

[@anatunkia]

For the Post-mortem: THE MAID 😶 got sick of his shiz, killed him and said he went swimming. Down played it with the chauffeur saying he'll show up. She knows how to clean up.

[@chikitomonset4866]

Went swimming with the fishes yes yes

[@lollabunyxxx]

I mean, is not like she's been a clean up lady for the mob. just because someone works cleaning, doesn't mean they'd know how to clean and cover up for a crime scene

[@isabellacamejo8405]

They probably got her some fancy pancy cleaning products too

[@lahfais5488]

Well she pulled up a "no body, no crime" then

[@sed6657]

@@lollabunyxxx it’s also not like they could use UV to find anything. It was like the 30’s.

[@panqueque445]

"He looks well educated, but he sucks at mining" Damn

[@Nerdfighter958]

18:09 that is absolutely fascinating to me. I'll admit that watching Shane on Unsolved has helped me be less afraid. It has helped me realize that my apartment probably isn't haunted. But still! There's always that little bit of doubt that makes me not 100% comfortable in the dark. It's fascinating that Shane so firmly believes that ghosts aren't real that he's not scared at all

[@acidic_critic]

For Postmortem: If the aquarium had been constructed over top of the old boardwalk, wouldn’t the construction team have dug up whatever was underneath it as well? If they happened to find a human skeleton under there, you’d think there would have been more news about it. #postmortem

[@flayful]

same thoughts

[@rixx46]

“Sally Lou Ritz” - how great a name is THAT for a NYC showgirl?

[@melissasaint3283]

Oh man, my dudes, thank you for this side story

[@LeeDee5]

It's like the most 1920s showgirl name i've ever heard.

[@rixx46]

@@karenhoy7115 thanks SO much for this ! 😘

[@josinelafontaine4939]

@@melissasaint3283 my bad

[@melissasaint3283]

@@josinelafontaine4939 what? But I was thanking you

[@Lonewulp]

For the post-mortem: Something does not add up. Why withdraw that huge amount of money for a few days stay? Why he keeps telling the maid his schedule and personal business? To become a possible witness? And why the maid is so sure that Carter will be coming back even though he didn't? They should've asked the maid for more information.

[@Excel-zu5iv]

Maybe he had a relationship with the maid so she is always informed of his schedules. The money thingy doesn't make sense at all. Also, who was the one that noticed he was gone?

[@aliciamoreno6258]

🤣🤣🤣 "I'm excited for this guy to go missing I don't like him." -Shane This is just priceless I love it! Still sad this is the last season I really enjoy watching you two cover unsolved crimes.

[@johnnym9602]

Shane "I dont know hot dog math" he is kinda dressed like a boardwalk hot dog vendor

[@evelynvslife]

For post-mortem: What’s the story behind Ryan shitting his pants in Singapore? Also, I’m pretty sure a certain Ricky would know what happened to Crater….dude is sus….

[@quirkofchance924]

Probably either a case of street food or drinking the local water lol

[@SuperBeeean]

@@quirkofchance924 singapore’s water is some of the cleanest in the world so i doubt so

[@poppaganja3793]

@@quirkofchance924 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWUZZV-o5agr5I

[@quirkofchance924]

@@SuperBeeean ah my bad, i guess ryan is just a poopir pants then

[@cremetangerine82]

My dad would always make a joke about how hard it was to find stuff in our house. I remember one day he said to me about finding a certain toy that was in the attic crawlspace, “you’ll probably find Judge Crater up there before ever finding that toy!”

[@joanaecho]

Shane: *acuses Ryan of shitting his pants* Ryan: *corrects him on **_where_** he shat his pants*

[@IncandescentIdea]

For Postmortem: Crater's reference to "going swimming" felt like a tell that he knew he was in trouble. Given his ties to Tammany hall and possible affairs with mobsters' girlfriends and wives, that detail seemed like a grim reference to death at the seaside rather than an odd day plan.

[@melissasaint3283]

For postmortem: Given that he was a judge AND someone living an adventurous Playboy life on the side, Is it possible he was taking that money to pay off a BLACKMAILER, And something went "wrong" during the exchange? This could have had to do with something in his personal life (an indiscretion with a married woman, a botched abortion for one of his showgirls that killed her, illegal gambling that would have shamed him professionally etc) Or perhaps something from his professional life (a case where he had been paid off to make a certain decision)

[@theeclectic2919]

He sounds like a typical Democrat. An old school Bill Clinton.

[@okayokayfineilldoit]

This is exactly what i thought! He takes out the money, someone tells him to drop it off at/during the show (hence the last minute tickets and him going despite having seen it) - maybe round the back of the theatre? or maybe the tickets were to establish an alibi so he could go meet somebody elsewhere.

[@melissasaint3283]

@@oliviam667 it doesn't preclude the money being for a blackmailer, but I am intrigued! Where can I read more about that

[@freshavocado5273]

Them: *Arguing about Shane's clothes Shane: *Points at the flower* This is 50 cents

[@cleobenny404]

Ryan: “that’s because you just farted” Shane: *sniff sniff* “BEEFY” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@devontehuntley6274]

20:55 Shane is such a disturbing mess. -_-

[@eviebb]

the way ryan says "crater" sounds like he's constantly thinking about the pronunciation of the word considering how many times the fandom has roasted him for his pronunciations

[@smw1300]

You’re right, and I can’t unhear it

[@MacBarringer]

he really said “cray. ter.” every time

[@trananhanh7225]

Samanthaa Branch d.

[@honoluluw]

I feel like that's how steven would say it lol

[@just_a_tiny_dinosaur5014]

“Pulling a Shane” is 100% stealing and renaming a bridge

[@freeloder17]

ryan: "i dont run, i stay in the hot water" *sally house has entered the chat*

[@Peculiarpossum]

The sheer PTSD of unexpectedly hearing “Robert Wagner” tho

[@wetsoap2188]

For post-mortem: I really feel like he withdrew those dollars so that his wife would not end up on the streets after he left. There's no way that he died. I believe he was either extorted, threatened, owed money, or was forced because he knew something he shouldn't have. There were so many events leading up to it that it makes it really difficult to not believe this.

[@winterkeptuswarm]

80K isn't much money though, it would would be enough for an upper middle class lifestyle for a year, or more thrifty lifestyle for 2 years, right? (Both of which would be unusual for Stella)

[@cloudsenpai9258]

@@winterkeptuswarm better than instantly being out on the streets. Not to mention she had to have had some sort of career for herself being that she was in college. She may have had something going on for herself

[@Ace_Up_My_Sleeve]

My immediate thought was that he wanted to buy her something for her upcoming birthday. Something expensive and fancy, like a diamond necklace...

[@lauragallaher4529]

I’m sure he would’ve left his properties and any savings he had to her in his will though, so she wouldn’t have needed to have withdrawn the money for her

[@larsonfamilyhouse]

@@Ace_Up_My_Sleeve That’s what I thought too. He also might have regularly have been pulling money like that out- he sent his secretary to do it so it must have been no big deal if the bank was okay with it. Sounds like he regularly spends lots of cash going out for steak and showgirls rather often.

[@chloehagle1307]

For Postmortem: If he was such a prominent figure, how did it take people a month to realize he was missing? Seems like he would have missed important meetings or business dealings. My guess is the people closest to him conspired to kill him.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Great point. Edit: I just read another comment where it states that Stella sent a chauffeur to look for him on her birthday because they were supposed to meet then, but it was only announced to the public he was missing a month later.

[@astrocandy148]

@@oliviam667 I think it's believable that no one notice. I mean back then they only had letters and telegrams, so if he was moving around a lot it would be hard to contact him.

[@dx1450]

Well, as was pointed out in the video, his wife thought he was in NY at work, and the people he worked with thought he was on vacation in Maine with his wife. It was a simpler time back then before everyone could keep close tabs on everyone via smart phone.

[@maggieelizabethh3043]

I’d like “well educated, but sucked at mining” on my gravestone please

[@reaganmrodgers4267]

Never have I heard Ryan speak with so much emphasis on each and every letter of the words of the narration…mans said “CraTer”

[@Dylanism24_7]

For postmortem: Shane looks like a whataburger employee with that orange and white striped shirt… one minute he’s flipping patties then the next he’s taunting ghouls

[@poppaganja3793]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWUZZV-o5agr5I

[@PatriciaHoferMsPattiMarc]

For PostMortem: Is it possible that his sinner mates had anything to do with his disappearance? AND isn’t it sad that it took A MONTH before they realized that he was actually missing? PS. Stella toasting and remembering her husband with the drink after his disappearance is both romantic and tragic. Edit: I meant dinner mates not sinner mates. 😂

[@TheOne-tl6nj]

the maid was badass, he will show up when he does bitchez!

[@Lod85]

It was a month before it was announced to the public but it was realized earlier

[@vierasesine]

I will start referring to my friends as my sinner mates from hereon.

[@sHorrorfan]

grow up.

[@srishtihirani7686]

@@vierasesine lmao

[@tacobella99]

“Full and tipsy, that’s how I wanna go out” needs to be on a shirt

[@Spencer-fu3wp]

shane: *sniffs* "beefy" ryan: regretting all his life choices

[@drawer1386]

"What a Begara be? Shitting your pants in Thailand?" "It was Singapore" Right, only the most important details

[@pb-and-jammothy]

For the Post-Mortem: Not case specific, but how much of what gets recorded gets cut out? You've mentioned jokes before that went on for a while, but only a small part made the final cut, so how long generally are you going over the case and cracking jokes on set before the footage gets edited?

[@yeinyeinyein628]

Please post all raw episodes of Unsolved😭

[@thecharminggeeks9923]

Damn, y’all really bullied Ryan so much he’s enunciating like his life depends on it. Ryan you go say Febeeary and ignore them #PostMortem

[@sherryjuskeepbreathn7370]

You guys are so amazing. Major understatement but thank you both so much.

[@cecilb8287]

“The most missingest man in America” I??? Huh??

[@EliIndirekt]

Gotta love that double superlative

[@maximuffin6395]

"It's not a contest" "Loser-speak"

[@scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663]

I wonder who's more missinger than this man in America.

[@g.ecoleman5910]

@@scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663 jimmy Hoffa

[@catsdgs]

#postmortem: Do you think it is possible that Stella had any envolvment in this? Do you think that the vacation was just an alibi and that she actually coordinated a murder? She did later find the money, which could be all that she wanted. It could also be that she might have cought him with a mistress? Love the videos as always!

[@johanvajse8410]

yeah I find it weird she was not a suspect, all signs point to her imo

[@amymonsivais526]

can confirm hotels do find a lot of bodies unfortunately. my mom and sister both worked at a hotel and they have each had many experiences finding people in their rooms :(

[@DrT0705]

There are people who check into hotels specifically to commit suicide to spare their loved ones the trauma of finding their bodies. As if it wouldn't be traumatic for a hotel worker to find them!

[@jeonghanscollarbones2186]

god bless your mom and your sister

[@goro123451]

Worst part is the clean up, suicides are usually not clean

[@blofeld39]

I mean, there was also the famous case the Ghoul Boys covered of the guy who was found in a hotel beaten to death and unidentified for months.

[@antoniooo2602]

@@jeonghanscollarbones2186 God*

[@jessicakelly1634]

"Pulling a Shane" would be: writing, composing and starring in a 3 hour puppet musical about the Byzantine Era

[@MadamoiselleSushiCat]

For the postmortem: tell us what happened in Singapore, Ryan. The people have a right to know

[@arianamontoya3535]

Shane: never occurred to me how many bodies they find in a hotel Me, in a hotel: 👁👄👁💧

[@megamegan34able]

Literally 😭

[@rosea1505]

I literally just applied for a job as a hotel cleaner 😬

[@TheRainyKingdom]

@@rosea1505 Tell us the stories!

[@deprofundis3293]

That statement definitely got me, LOL

[@samryder8496]

Shane: when someone doesn’t respond to your messages for a couple days you don’t normally assume they’ve vanished from the face of the earth My separation anxiety: *are you sure about that?*

[@sasuhinaga]

For the post mortem: isn't it maybe possible that the wife had him killed? If it apparently was know that he had connections to beautiful women, maybe the wife found out got jealous and just sent a hit on him. Also she would have a good alibi, not being in the city and not reporting him until others found it suspicious.

[@thanuusrii]

'I am excited for this guy to go missing. I don't like him'. Shane Madej, 2021.

[@mangoyogurt5077]

Tofel literally went: source(s): dude trust me for post mortem: did Crater have any diseases or illness that lead to his natural death as Tofel claimed ? or did he just like cough into a handkerchief and noticed blood and just died or something

[@janjeikobu5163]

and just died or something LMAO you made my day

[@tophat1918]

I think by “natural causes” they meant he had a heart attack during sex at the brothel.

[@liaguianen5247]

For the post mortem: I'm just reeling over the fact that if his office in New York and his wife in Maine just communicated with each other the case might have been solved because they would have realized he was missing sooner. What made them not contact each other, and do you guys think the case would have been solved if so?

[@electricshoess7257]

Thats what I thought was so weird! Usually its either hes a workaholic and his coworkers would be alarmed they couldnt reach him, or he, ya know, had a personal life so his wife would be concerned she couldnt find him. The fact that no one noticed for weeks is just off

[@BlckSWANWhtRbbt]

They must not have been getting along since he completely missed her birthday and she was just like, " oh well. Guess he's working."

[@kathyjones1078]

I think it’s suspicious that he wasn’t reported missing earlier. Most spouses check in with their loved ones regularly. Why would his wife wait so long?

[@ieshahunt1263]

She sent the Chauffeur to check in on him as soon as and the maid said he’d be coming back soon. He was stepping out on her a lot. She could of just thought he was with a mistress and that’s why he didn’t get back to her.