3 Chilling Crimes From Canada

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Cadaber

Cadaber

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From a friendship that had Canada in the grips of fear, to a party leading to a missing persons case still talked about decades later, to a routine bus route that became that stuff of nightmares for it's passengers. These are 3 chilling crimes from Canada.
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Chapters:
0:00 Start
2:12 Kam Mcleod & Bryer Schmegelsky
11:45 Lisa Marie Young
24:08 Tim McLean
34:37 Credits

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@Keyser___Soze
@Keyser___Soze Жыл бұрын
Once you said in the first few seconds about “public transportation on a bus” I and I’m sure many others knew exactly what story was about to be told...
@ItsJustMe0585
@ItsJustMe0585 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... shit still angers me to this day. :( I get not locking up a f'er with a mental disorder in a prison, but psych ward for many years...def, and only released if fully monitored, yes. To just let him go and hope that he always takes his meds... ffs.
@bosreplica
@bosreplica Жыл бұрын
Yup... this comment read my mind 😅
@isaacwerner9057
@isaacwerner9057 Жыл бұрын
YEP
@ridleyroid9060
@ridleyroid9060 Жыл бұрын
You know I know exactly which case that is and I'm so glad I read about this before watching cause I do NOT want to relive the trauma I had when I first discovered it.
@gunnargarcia2755
@gunnargarcia2755 Жыл бұрын
Why did the cops take so long to get there ?
@zisaletter4602
@zisaletter4602 Жыл бұрын
in the first case - important note to make. The RCMP only found them because they were working with local Native folks and the guy leading them was a Fox Lake Cree Nation member called Billy Beardy, and allegedly, he was the urged the RCMP to look in a specific location due to spotting ravens circling the area.
@lovelybydecay7811
@lovelybydecay7811 Жыл бұрын
yes!!! and the rcmp didn’t have the basic human decency to provide him with protective equipment, not even a basic helmet or bullet proof vest considering they were looking for active hostile shooters hiding in the woods
@euthanasia1111
@euthanasia1111 Жыл бұрын
@@lovelybydecay7811ol the reason they had no gear for the native guy was because the rcmp knew they were dead. They killed those 2 in York Landing. Remember when natives from YL said they heard 3 gunshots after they spotted Bryer and kam in the dump looking for food? And there was heavy rcmp military presence there? Yeah, and considering the fact that the description of the clothes one of the witnesses provided matches the clothes they were found in tells everything. RCMP wanted to keep the whole manhunt part going, even though those 2 guys were dead. There’s a lot more that went on. I’m a part of an investigation group with Bryers father and a WITNESS. The rcmp keep silencing this witness too.
@frakismaximus3052
@frakismaximus3052 Жыл бұрын
And his race is important why, exactly? Do you feel the need to point out every time a white man helps the police? I doubt it.
@KingNoTail
@KingNoTail Жыл бұрын
​@@euthanasia1111what a bunch of bullshit.
@ComradeCage
@ComradeCage Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the native needs to be brought up, that gentle soul is *the* reason those kids were found.
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
tim's mom has said on a podcast called sword & scales that his body was so mutilated the medical examiner forebid anyone from doing a visual identification and the funeral home ultimately had to resort to putting what was left of him in plastic bags so he could be buried in a casket. in the same podcast she talks more about the details of the mutilation that weren't made public due to how graphic it is so.. tread carefully. hearing it made me physically ill.
@MaeMae99
@MaeMae99 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find this podcast
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
@@MaeMae99 apple podcasts
@jjb_stopmotions323
@jjb_stopmotions323 Жыл бұрын
Could you link the video or tell title of the video?
@cubethepixel3025
@cubethepixel3025 Жыл бұрын
No way she hopped on a Podcast lmao 💀💀💀☕️☕️☕️
@dinogt8477
@dinogt8477 Жыл бұрын
who asked?
@hyruleskz
@hyruleskz Жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking briefly on MMIWG, as an indigenous Canadian it’s always wonderful to hear others finally spreading the word and discussing the problems we are facing.
@Peeplii
@Peeplii Жыл бұрын
Ngl I get really happy seeing someone shed light on MMIW. I feel like in the last few months more and more attention has been drawn to it, and I'm so glad it has
@SanktaLo
@SanktaLo Жыл бұрын
the lisa marie case is heartbreaking and infuriating on so many levels
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Жыл бұрын
The RCMP is pretty much a joke.
@Colin.G
@Colin.G Жыл бұрын
the queen’s cowboys are known far and wide for doing fuckall
@Nutpackk
@Nutpackk Жыл бұрын
Nanaimo.......
@Nutpackk
@Nutpackk Жыл бұрын
Makes me so sad
@SubzeroCage
@SubzeroCage Жыл бұрын
I never understood why you would wait 48 hours to do something about it, I mean better safe than sorry, and they were sorry, they could have used that precious time to find her faster or catch something, before something bad happened. And the guy that wouldn’t let her leave should be rotting in jail. Christopher a dare or whatever the f his name is, is clearly guilty
@menagerieofinsanity
@menagerieofinsanity Жыл бұрын
Love hearing non-Canadians pronounce Nanaimo lmao. Also thank you for covering MMIW! I'm glad to see a ton of channels I love covering these cases more. I'm First Nations (Indigenous Canadian) and much of my family has tragic or horrifying stories about life as Natives in rural Canada. Just recently, my brother and his fiancée were visiting family in Alberta, and throughout their trip they were yelled at, ran off the road, and followed. Unfortunately, it often gets much worse, especially for young women and girls. Thank you for spreading awareness. We really appreciate it. Great video as always ♡
@ColbyJohnson303
@ColbyJohnson303 Жыл бұрын
as an Islander, hearing the pronunciations for Port Alberni and Nanaimo was hilarious lmao
@KikuNeko
@KikuNeko Жыл бұрын
Lol it took me awhile to realize he was saying Nanaimo.
@Zombielandbabe
@Zombielandbabe Жыл бұрын
Na na imo 😆
@evanw7878
@evanw7878 Жыл бұрын
Most violence against indigenous peoples is perpetrated by other indigenous people.
@SmoteMyRuin
@SmoteMyRuin Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry your family had that experience in my home of Alberta. It's got its flaws and it's awful people, but hopefully their next visit will be more welcoming and warm as I know it to be. Much love 💚💚💚 from the windy south big sky country
@himeguts8211
@himeguts8211 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Winnipeg resident, and recall when Vince Li was released. I can't remember the crime itself-- I would have been four at the time, after all, but the news of his release caught my attention. Nobody was happy about it-- protests were formed against it, and there was a lot of worry about him reoffending. Six years later and he hasn't-- but the concern still lingers. They actually let him wander Winnipeg and Selkirk unsupervised starting 2014-2015. Weird little (not very fun) fact, the same hospital that held Vince Li was holding another cannibal. Can't recall his name at the moment, and the case isn't super well known-- only reason I do know of it was because someone I know helped bring the victim to the hospital.
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV Жыл бұрын
i really don’t think he’ll reoffend, unlike a lot of cases up here. out of all our most well-known crime, he was so far out of his head because of mental illness, and then when he was medicated, he was horrified by what he did. it may be unpopular, but if he’s getting support and stays medicated, i think it’s fine for him to be free. it’s unpopular, and i admit i would be uncomfortable if he was in my neighbourhood, but i think i could get used to it and accept it because he was genuinely fully dissociated from reality
@bobograndman
@bobograndman Жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV exactly, he obviously committed the crime but we have to understand it was essentially not his fault. Its not like he can fake the illness, and it’s not like he can really fake recovery if there’s been no problems for this long.
@daniellekathybea.714
@daniellekathybea.714 Жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV 100% this. He had reach such a deeply unwell state that in his mind he had truly thought he was doing good at the type. He hadn’t been diagnosed before, had never been prescribed medication and it was his first recorded psychotic break. I can’t imagine how horrified people would be if they ever experienced what he did. His shoes are difficult and uncomfortable for us to put ourselves in, though. If you’ve ever spoken to someone about their experience after a psychotic episode, in which they have fully dissociated, they are usually embarrassed, or ashamed, or horrified by their actions. this man, after being treated, had to come to terms with the actions of brutally killing an innocent man and traumatizing so many others when he wouldn’t have ever done so in his right mind. We can more easily understand how traumatizing it would be to be on that bus and to have seen what happened when we are told about the murder. We are looking at it from a lucid perspective. It’s an all around terrible crime. I do believe that this man will live the rest of his days without re-offending meow that he has been diagnosed and is receiving treatment.
@Noodlepunk
@Noodlepunk Жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV Canada has free Healthcare why didn't he seek help?
@dth91
@dth91 Жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV ya hopefully he decides not to go off his pills like every other one of these guys does
@sultanciarra11
@sultanciarra11 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for poor Tim. He looks like a sweet guy.
@crimsonnight824
@crimsonnight824 Жыл бұрын
Corporal Ken Barker was the dad of a kid who lived in my neighborhood when I was young that I hung out with a few times. Never thought that such a high profile case would affect a family so close to home. Must have been really difficult dealing with the PTSD of seeing people being brutally murdered.
@DontHasselHoff
@DontHasselHoff Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Pembina and remember when this happened. Such a tragedy
@lesliemartin3
@lesliemartin3 Жыл бұрын
Lisa was such a beautiful and kind person it seems and I can't stress enough how upsetting her case is. It really makes me so sad knowing how much her family suffered in their attempts to locate their daughter. My heart goes out to her friend Dallas also. May he rest in peace and hopefully be reunited with Lisa.💗
@bearlypanda
@bearlypanda Жыл бұрын
I feel like every (non-Canadian)KZbinr just discovered the greyhound case- seen it covered a lot lately.
@Keyser___Soze
@Keyser___Soze Жыл бұрын
Yeah its been awhile since the incident happened and it was obviously huge news when it did. Its been covered by pretty much everyone and I still see new videos like this popping up all the time telling the story like it hasnt been told 1.57 billion times already. Im American and heard this story right away and then repeated a thousand times right away by others and then having even more people just find out about it or something while they’ve been putting up videos about it since then and all the way up until now. Its kind of annoying and if its an individual video about it then I can just obviously skip the video and not watch it but it always amazes me like “did you just hear about this now or what?” Its kind of like Andrew Tate right now where literally everyone has to make a video about him but the only difference between that and this, is Tate is recent with everyone talking about it and the bus story was awhile ago with everyone talking about and still making videos on it years later but both are just oversaturated with videos that have been made by everyone. Its like “Enough! We get it! Move on. Come up with something new, different, unique, maybe obscure”
@dalisllama
@dalisllama Жыл бұрын
We had a “head”-start
@n0vellette
@n0vellette Жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment this lol. At the time it felt like the whole world would know about it, because of how crazy it was.
@carbonstealer6389
@carbonstealer6389 Жыл бұрын
@@Keyser___Soze literally never heard of it before so no, your experiences aren't universal
@stateofdisorder1
@stateofdisorder1 Жыл бұрын
This one I actually knew. It was so horrifying, I couldn’t forget it if I wanted to. No bus rides for me.
@OriginalPineapplesFoster
@OriginalPineapplesFoster Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see/hear comments about how "that's been converted already" etc, I think about all the people who will learn about it 'here' for the very first time. Not to mention how every creator brings their own character to the stories they tell, includes different details, and adds another facet for those interested in knowing more. Well done Cadaber. Thanks for this Northern spotlight; hope you'll do more. 🇨🇦🍍
@queenb1218
@queenb1218 Жыл бұрын
Thank you @Cadaber for addressing Lisa's case and the Missing & Murdered Indigenous Women epidemic, along with the boarding schools and their impact. It was truly heartbreaking that Joann had to hide their ethnicity just to get the authorities to pay attention. Sadly, infuriatingly, this is the state of indigenous affairs in 2023. It is so important to bring attention to these cases.
@bluesea2023
@bluesea2023 7 ай бұрын
How do you feel about being lied to and being told you can legally add "Lord' and/or Lady" if you buy a square meter of land? Do we care that's it's not even close to being true and that he was contacted by at least 2 other creators before they talked about online scams. His video are fun, i like him so do we care or not?
@silenttoxic707
@silenttoxic707 Жыл бұрын
Ima watch this now just incase 😂
@stan8634
@stan8634 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao seriously!!
@robbilynn7746
@robbilynn7746 Жыл бұрын
On it too! Lol
@plsdontbeahero
@plsdontbeahero Жыл бұрын
Fr
@KAOST1ST1C-FN
@KAOST1ST1C-FN Жыл бұрын
De coulis, pourquoi tu dois être comme ça? C'est fou. C'est correct, je vais fumer un gros bât et essayer à relaxer. Je m'excuse pour cette réponse.
@davidbailey9382
@davidbailey9382 Жыл бұрын
read my mind
@trickstergods
@trickstergods Жыл бұрын
dang cadaber's voice is hella soothing. rewatching just to listen again
@ellielittler5542
@ellielittler5542 Жыл бұрын
his accent gets me everytime
@TravellingCultivator
@TravellingCultivator Жыл бұрын
Perfect narration for a serious topic. Then again, his voice would be a good fit for anything!
@zodiyac
@zodiyac Жыл бұрын
get off it you will break it
@KorilD
@KorilD Жыл бұрын
Soothing riiight up until he pronounced Nanaimo wrong. Always gives me the giggles.
@samiracles
@samiracles Жыл бұрын
i fall asleep to him every night it’s perfect
@river217
@river217 Жыл бұрын
You should make this a series!! Do “3 Chilling Crimes from Australia” next!
@drtinyface
@drtinyface Жыл бұрын
The Kam Mcleod and Bryer Schmegelsky case always throws me off so much because I know a guy who lives where Bryer lives and looks just like him but isn't related to him at all, but he got so much harassment when the case was going on because of how similar he looks EDIT: got the names mixed up, he looks like Bryer not Kam lol
@Dexter037S4
@Dexter037S4 Жыл бұрын
Nanaimo is pronounced, Nah-Nigh-Moe.
@siranthony8525
@siranthony8525 Жыл бұрын
🤓
@LeeirahBrashka
@LeeirahBrashka 10 ай бұрын
Nah-neigh-moe
@AtrocityEquine01
@AtrocityEquine01 Жыл бұрын
The Lisa Marie case is just...what the fuck. Never once has the words "Police are useless" rings so true.
@anitaevans5361
@anitaevans5361 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering the indigenous mmiw case, it's overlooked in the media but yt creators r more inclusive in coverage of this topic. We've been aware of this for decades but it is not a priority in Canada nor USA. The more light shone on this keeps it alive, thank you ❤️
@greggrace967
@greggrace967 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the movie about Route 20 in Canada I think it is? Highway of tears I think? About all those women on that one highway. It was and is a disturbing documentary.
@zacxiie
@zacxiie Жыл бұрын
@@greggrace967 it’s highway 16 for anyone trying to do research on this topic! or you can search highway of tears
@frakismaximus3052
@frakismaximus3052 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what could have been done differently here?
@jukia24
@jukia24 Жыл бұрын
as an american indigenious person I want to say thank you for covering lisa's case
@hengedraws
@hengedraws Жыл бұрын
I hope more channels start to do a more focused effort on highlighting victims of hate crimes, or just crimes against minority groups in general, theirs plenty of stories out there that need more coverage
@Jolis_Parsec
@Jolis_Parsec Жыл бұрын
Funny how the Established Titles advertisements on old videos differ quite a bit from the ones that the remaining amount of creators willing to be sponsored by them are using these days as they’re apparently “novelty gifts” instead of saving the environment of Scotland. 😂
@BMR3
@BMR3 Жыл бұрын
I saw this upload yesterday & was like dope! I’ll watch it on lunch. But by the time lunch came around I couldn’t find the video & forgot who uploaded & spent 30 min searching for this 😂 I’ll watch it right now.
@stumblin_bummblin9774
@stumblin_bummblin9774 Жыл бұрын
Yeah me too haha what happened?
@n0vellette
@n0vellette Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the search for Cam and Bryer on the news. It was crazy to think something like this happened in our sleepy country, especially in the province I live in... They never came near my town, but it's scary to think about. Also, here in BC, Nanaimo is pronounced "nah-NIGH-mo" not "nah-ny-EE-mo" lol. Love that place.
@cube9967
@cube9967 Жыл бұрын
i remember freaking the fuck out when it was alleged that they were in kapuskasing, seeing as i live in timmins
@skippidypowpow8660
@skippidypowpow8660 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, Canadian here. Really excellent to see somebody put in some work on some of the shocking stuff that has gone on in our country, especially considering our reputation of basically being the Swiss of North America. If you really want to go down the rabbit hole; do some deep digging on the Residential School situation outlined briefly in story 2... it is an absolute stain on the history of this country and a hole darker than anybody (victims aside) want to acknowledge. The whole residential school history and the reality of MMIAW (Missing and Murdered Indigenous/Aboriginal Women) is about as dark a history as you'll find. Hell, if you only want to go a little way back; dig into the "60s sweep". It's not good. Pour a beverage to soften the hit.
@Keyser___Soze
@Keyser___Soze Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I’m American and all of this is brand new to me. Never heard of any of this before. Never heard of the MMIAW or the residential school situation or 60’s sweep. Thank you for educating me and letting me know. Ill look into it. I hope Cadaber sees your message to him
@n0vellette
@n0vellette Жыл бұрын
This. Even recently, just last year the mass grave discovered. Over 200 indigenous/aboriginal children from residential schools buried without a care. Super disheartening :(
@zacxiie
@zacxiie Жыл бұрын
hello! just coming in here to correct some things a bit, coming from an indigenous person in canada. it’s MMIWG you just forgot to put the girls because it’s both! furthermore it’s not called the 60s sweep, it’s the 60s scoop. hope to clear some things up while you guys are researching things.
@zacxiie
@zacxiie Жыл бұрын
@@n0vellette the government has known forever and indigenous people have been begging for action to be taken. only last year was any action taken, and the pope finally saying there was genocide in Canada this year.
@skippidypowpow8660
@skippidypowpow8660 Жыл бұрын
@@zacxiie "Scoop"! I should/did know that. Completely spaced on it. And if I'm being totally transparent, I pieced the acronym together as a best-guess! Thanks for the heads-up!
@savilene9773
@savilene9773 Жыл бұрын
Hey Cadaber, first off I wanna say I love your videos. However, everything I see when I look into Established Titles is that it's a scam. I know you probably want any sponsor in general just for the revenue, but one of the things I judge a channel by are the sponsors they take, and I hate to see a scam get pushed. People trust the video channels they watch and the sponsors they advertise for. I really do enjoy your videos, I just want to reiterate that. I'm taking the time to write this because I do.
@miabailey2236
@miabailey2236 Жыл бұрын
Favorite KZbinr. Only person I find new cases I’m not familiar with or adds a perspective that reignites the story. Thank you
@erinwilmott8279
@erinwilmott8279 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering the Lisa Marie Young case. I am also from Nanaimo & her family deserves justice & to lay her to rest. The suspect Chris has moved out of country to a country that does not have an extradition agreement with Canada. The family has a Facebook page to support their continued search.
@mariec3527
@mariec3527 10 ай бұрын
He's mad. Suspicious, I hope he gets his karma
@hemogxblin
@hemogxblin Жыл бұрын
One of my fav creators keep up the great work
@Juliett-we7tc
@Juliett-we7tc Жыл бұрын
The case of Tim McLean scares the heck out of me because his killer is free and living out there someplace. From what I have read, Vince is not being heavily monitored by the mental health system to make sure he is taking his meds and that they are still working. What would happen if, for one reason or another, he decides he no longer wants to take his meds or if the meds stop properly working for him? How long would it take before he returned to the violent mental state he was in? I feel that though mental health conditions should never be “demonized” and that people with mental health conditions can live a healthy and productive life so long as they are continuing to receive the help that they need, I also feel that when someone commits a violent crime as severe as this one was, that it is vital that they remain under vigilant watch to make sure that they take their meds and that those meds are properly working for the safety of the public. I’m not saying they should be locked up in some hospital necessarily, but for the safety of themselves and the public, they should remain under very close outpatient care. And though I may be wrong, but from what I have read this man is not being strictly monitored, and if true, that scares the heck out of me. This is all just my own opinion though.
@theMoporter
@theMoporter Жыл бұрын
He’s expressed nothing but utter remorse from the moment he set foot in the courtroom. He wilfully cooperated with therapy and the legal system from then on. It’s not likely he’ll change on a dime and suddenly become a remorseless irresponsible person and stop taking care of himself, at least in the eyes of every medical and legal professional that’s in charge of the case. He will probably be attending therapy for the rest of his life for his own good. When you are so delusional and out of control off medication, you take that medication no matter what.
@Jaded-ITS
@Jaded-ITS 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@theMoporterI still think he should be locked. Yes, unfortunately it was “out of his control” but he still murdered an innocent man. He still decapitated an innocent man. He still ate pieces of an innocent man. He still gutted an innocent man. He left a bunch of innocent bystanders with PTSD. An innocent child now has no father, and one of the only things he knows about his father is that he was stabbed, decapited, and eaten on a bus. He caused the suicide of a cop. No matter what mental condition he had, he still caused all of those things. I’m sorry, but those actions are not forgivable, and he doesn’t deserve to be free.
@TheLostSoulsInitiative
@TheLostSoulsInitiative 7 ай бұрын
Usually they are locked in a psych ward for the length of time they would be in jail.
@memegalodon4522
@memegalodon4522 Жыл бұрын
“China Deez” is a legendary name, rest in peace lady.
@cole3363
@cole3363 Жыл бұрын
what is legendary about it
@memegalodon4522
@memegalodon4522 Жыл бұрын
@@cole3363 China Deez Nuts
@captinsprinkle7795
@captinsprinkle7795 Жыл бұрын
DEEZ NUTS
@TouchOfFate
@TouchOfFate Жыл бұрын
Deez nutz?
@sylvainthibeault3447
@sylvainthibeault3447 Жыл бұрын
There was a rumour going around that Vince Lee would not even be reported to police if he should fail to pick up his meds. That got me furious. At least meds are free for most people, so the cost would never be an issue, but as our friend Cadaber said:" As long as he doesn't forget..."
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult Жыл бұрын
At this point, he should be in jail. It's just too risky to have him out there. It's not worth it to risk the lives of everyone he comes into contact with just because of the recovery of one guy.
@daniellekathybea.714
@daniellekathybea.714 Жыл бұрын
There should be a required time to check that medication is being taken as needed. I wish it were an optional thing for people to request if they have certain illnesses that impact their lucid state or if they could have psychotic breaks. I think it would help them and the ensure the safety of others. I don’t think he should remain in prison. With medication, I don’t personally believe he’d re-offend. It does sound awful that there wouldn’t be follow ups on medication being taken though. Gah
@Summitseeker196
@Summitseeker196 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a rumour, the court decided to not monitor him after including him taking his pills. He’s 100% unmonitored out there and it’s frightening and sickening.
@pepe6666
@pepe6666 Жыл бұрын
What kind of insane system do they have over there?
@dark_fire_ice
@dark_fire_ice Жыл бұрын
And you know very little about schizophrenia
@temp_unknown
@temp_unknown Жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about MMIW!!
@kimloveslp
@kimloveslp Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how no charges where filed against Christopher. He was the last person seen with her and she said he wouldn’t let her leave. So frustrating
@mariec3527
@mariec3527 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention his lengthy criminal background. Like he should of been #1 suspect and monitored
@ximenam.9236
@ximenam.9236 Жыл бұрын
hoping someone doesn't forget to take their medication is such a bad choice. i understand what caused his actions but we already know how far he can go why run that risk again? it's really scary
@realtacobell
@realtacobell Жыл бұрын
yeah, let's just pile more and more medications.
@ximenam.9236
@ximenam.9236 Жыл бұрын
@Point Blank i agree! there should be a community for people like this who can live under a small amount of supervision. and obviously the world isn't perfect but they should at least remain under parole
@theformertexan1642
@theformertexan1642 Жыл бұрын
@@ximenam.9236 that's already a thing, they're called either group homes, or halfway houses, and they're 100% designed for this. Dude killed a guy. What he wants as far as living unmonitored/unsupervised should matter fuck all. Come on Canada, protect your people! Much love to my maple loving neighbors, neither of our governments is good for anything.
@eaasports4479
@eaasports4479 Жыл бұрын
@@realtacobell Medication has been proven to work for some people, its just extremely hard to get it to work due to the sheer amount of them that might have different side affects on you. Its also not meant by any means to be a solution, just a stepping stone to get you to the right place. Missing medication one day won't make this guy murder someone, or even for a week or a few months. It quite literally changes your brain chemistry and that takes a very long time to reverse. Don't spread misinformation, it hurts those who might get help by being on medication.
@nicktease0687
@nicktease0687 Жыл бұрын
@@theformertexan1642 while I agree with what you say, speaking from experience, group homes and halfway houses aren't the answer. The sole function of these places, I know how hard this will be to believe considering the state of the states, is money. They're neither designed nor operated with the goal of rehabilitation. Most are little more than trap houses. I'm not saying I have any answers but I am saying that putting a guy like that in a place like that will likely only exacerbate his illness. It's yet another example of the depth of decay in both countries. Everything has been turned into a money machine. There's vanishingly few places to get any true help anymore. The system is completely overrun with far too many folks needing help and far too few providers who are being increasingly overworked. I have a genuine, deep and increasingly hopeless outlook on the future of both countries. Without serious overhaul of basically every institution, rather quickly, I see a bleak future coming. Sad as it is. I still have some hope but when the game is rigged and the referees are paid off, without some serious pushback, what can one do? The sheeple seem content to drink the koolaid and the few patriots remaining are meticulously attacked and either forced into silence, bribed, or eliminated from reinvigorating the fighting spirit of the American people.
@TravellingCultivator
@TravellingCultivator Жыл бұрын
A new Cadaber video? What a treat!
@dechala3263
@dechala3263 Жыл бұрын
“Nana emo” lol i love when non locals pronounce places wrong. I remember the first and third story, but surprisingly not the second. I would love to see more stories out if Canada! We have a lot of psychos
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын
I know, it made me wince each time.
@Topaztan
@Topaztan Жыл бұрын
I came here to comment this same thing. Nanaimo isn't even one of the worst. Let's just be glad it wasn't Osoyoos rofl.
@moethetreekid5490
@moethetreekid5490 Жыл бұрын
NANA EMO☠️☠️☠️
@Topaztan
@Topaztan Жыл бұрын
@@moethetreekid5490 NA NA NA NAI MO (to the tune of MCR ⚡)
@LeoNickle
@LeoNickle Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced. Nuh-nye-mo.
@Veestar88
@Veestar88 Жыл бұрын
I remember that first case well. I live rural Manitoba and the week it happened, an Australian couple showed up at our weekly community breakfast. They were cycling across Canada. We asked if they knew the victims, and they said they met briefly. They camped on our property that night and left the next day. That was when we heard that the killers had been spotted a little bit north of us on their way to Gillam. It was really unsettling. (Also it’s Na-nye-moh)
@CloverCutieASMR
@CloverCutieASMR Жыл бұрын
Yay a new video! I love your videos!
@hoyofan533
@hoyofan533 Жыл бұрын
Dear Cadaber, pls make another list of shocking crimes that inspired movies. I love that one
@samanthalandry2296
@samanthalandry2296 8 ай бұрын
I would just like to say that I clicked this because it said Canada in the title and I am from Canada so I’m excited to see what you got for us. Thank you very much.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 Жыл бұрын
Just when I was wondering if Cadaber was gonna upload his next video
@jonatgan8546
@jonatgan8546 Жыл бұрын
that second story is heartbreaking. indigenous people, especially indigenous women, are treated as less than human by canadian authorities.
@shakyjake213
@shakyjake213 10 ай бұрын
I’m a relative newcomer to your channel and leave comments even less. But even more respect for going into a little more detail about indiginous people of our region. I feel like Canada is grossly underrepresented and I, along with other Canadians, appreciate you for this. Thank you for what you do.
@kg_canuck
@kg_canuck Жыл бұрын
The sad and disturbing (most likely) truth about Lisa's case is human trafficking. It's a massive problem in Canada and very few talk about it, and her story hits all the right red flags.
@PeaceDub
@PeaceDub 9 ай бұрын
No it is mostly likely that Chris killed her and buried the body, there is many discussions of this on reddit. Some people know more than we do.
@LaPeppercorn
@LaPeppercorn Жыл бұрын
I've been on public transit held up by crazy people or medical emergencies multiple times (this year) but golly does that last story remind me it could always be worse
@ericdravenX00X
@ericdravenX00X Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@ShwintyKat
@ShwintyKat Жыл бұрын
I'm American and knew about Tim's case, to this day I can never understand how anyone would ever feel safe sleeping anywhere public. It's an important lesson he taught us.
@gimzod76
@gimzod76 Жыл бұрын
Good to see this back
@trixxtreatz
@trixxtreatz Жыл бұрын
I live in Edmonton and vividly remember every one of these stories as they happened. Re-living them here has been... surreal.
@kyleirwin1322
@kyleirwin1322 Жыл бұрын
Love the new intro man!
@witcheywoman420
@witcheywoman420 Жыл бұрын
New sub you are now my favorite channel
@dotover9046
@dotover9046 Жыл бұрын
Loving the new intro cadaby - so much better than the old one which i found pretty loud!
@G4M30V3R
@G4M30V3R Жыл бұрын
Dropping ya a comment for the algorithm dude and re-watching it as well.
@lizzwilliams6022
@lizzwilliams6022 Жыл бұрын
Vince HAD AMPLE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT & guidance.HE decided 2 VOLUNTARILY stop all his meds despite loved 1s advice! Thts what makes me mad w/this 1. He flipped out due 2 him refusing his medication tht keeps him "normal" so y wuld ppl think it's a gud idea 2 release a man bak 2 society with the same opportunity 2 stop taking his meds if he chose & possibly hurt more ppl!
@nomad5215
@nomad5215 Жыл бұрын
The king returns
@verynormalgf
@verynormalgf Күн бұрын
i would really like to see you cover the 2022 stabbings on james smith cree nation in saskatchewan. it was fairly recent, but i feel like its not talked about enough. it's one of the deadliest massacres in canadian history. would love to see a channel like yours explore that topic and the connotations about the lack of support sask has for drug addiction and the lack of support for indigenous communities. it would be very interesting to see you cover it!
@AppalachianHistoryDetectives
@AppalachianHistoryDetectives Жыл бұрын
Canadian laws are notoriously known for their laughable Justice. Many other shows like this state reveal as much.
@mariec3527
@mariec3527 10 ай бұрын
And people think Canada is such a safe place 😂 like no they just never report or do anything about these cases and let serious dangerous criminals off the hook
@uneseulenuit
@uneseulenuit Жыл бұрын
Kudos for covering an MMIW case, they are shockingly under-reported. I hope more true crime channels follow suit, or that you return to other MMIW cases in the future. I find the last line of the section about Tim McClean rather frustrating, because it implies that Li/Baker presents some sort of lurking danger only held back by his own decision to take his meds. I understand that the way you ended the segment was probably just a throwaway comment in line with your channel's theme of looming societal dangers, but I'd invite you to reconsider. IMO, what you said perpetuates harmful stereotypes about mental illness, and implies that you're arguing would be better to keep Li locked up, in spite of the many experts who have determined using both data and direct analysis of the case that the risk of reoffending is virutally nonexistent. Thankfully, virutally all major media outlets in Canada have published editorials supporting Li/Baker's release. I found the Globe and Mail (Canadian NYT)'s editorial on the subject to be especially well-argued: "during such turbulent conflicts between emotion and reason we look to the bigger picture. Cases like Mr. Li's demand criminal justice dispensed for the broadest and highest public good, which includes clear-eyed consideration of mental health dynamics where they are present. This bigger picture teaches us that criminal justice outcomes driven by visceral reactions of the moment rarely withstand scrutiny. Our best criminal law responses to human tragedies must be thoughtful and rational first, and tempered by compassion second. So if the decision to grant Mr. Li more liberty is carefully analyzed and shown to reveal an unacceptable risk to public safety, it should be swiftly changed. But if the hue and cry in this case to protect public safety is, on careful analysis, really just code for a visceral desire to punish a mentally disordered person, that hue and cry should be resisted."
@mentalillness1574
@mentalillness1574 Жыл бұрын
Vince Li deserves the firing squad
@willo7734
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
I really hope I never go missing in Canada. Every missing person or homicide case I’ve heard about that the RCMP investigates gets badly mishandled.
@redneckreviews3016
@redneckreviews3016 Жыл бұрын
Listening to you say Nanaimo made my chuckle a bit. I know its a serious story. But still
@nodancingpalmtrees7931
@nodancingpalmtrees7931 Жыл бұрын
If Nanaimo was located in Hawaii, he’d have had the perfect pronunciation! 👍
@frootgummies
@frootgummies Жыл бұрын
i had to pause the video and laugh
@Rodney17302
@Rodney17302 Жыл бұрын
Christopher could have at the very least been charged with Kidnapping, since there were text records indicating that he wouldn't let her leave.
@Kiyannepeppers
@Kiyannepeppers Жыл бұрын
I love your pronouciations of Port Alberni & Nanaimo 🤣 I remember following the news story for Kam and Bryer. It was very stressful until they were found. Lisa's dissaperance is local for me, but it happened before I was old enough to understand. I actually used to see Don frequently as he delivered to my work. We are still looking. As for the last one, its part of Canadian true crime lore.
@Peeplii
@Peeplii Жыл бұрын
The Kam & Bryer situation as well as the Myles Sanderson event were honestly such scary times. I lived close to Meadow Lake when K&B went through and I currently live near JSCN, so everyone was super on edge last year when the alerys would go off multiple times a day. I have so much respect for Billy Beardy for basically pointing the RCMP to the bodies of K&M
@lolwut8560
@lolwut8560 Жыл бұрын
How... Could.. you.... Change the intro? Best progressive warehouse tripping balls intro ever.
@TravellingCultivator
@TravellingCultivator Жыл бұрын
While I'm usually not against changing things up, I'm going to really miss that old intro... It was truly remarkable.
@pandat581
@pandat581 Жыл бұрын
I have an experience regarding the first story: I have the exact same car (same colour, year, make, and model). I forgot to register my plates at the exact same time that they were on the run in the province that I live in. Coincidencentally enough, their car was also unregistered. I got pulled over and the cop had his hand on his gun while he was talking to someone on his radio. However, once he realized that I wasn't the murderers but was instead a 16 year old girl sobbing, the officer relaxed. I still got a $600 ticket though lol
@Thoar003
@Thoar003 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you can stab someone 60+ times and cut their head off and get freed.
@dustinspeicher3390
@dustinspeicher3390 Жыл бұрын
Just say the voices told you to do it.
@Mr.NopeNope
@Mr.NopeNope Жыл бұрын
0:35 that established titles thing aged like sperm mixed with milk. Lovely.
@ellingtonlilly
@ellingtonlilly Жыл бұрын
As a born and raised BC resident; those first two look like people I would hang out with. Sorry to hear this happened to them. Of course I’m horrified that things happen so close to me but I already knew that and I just don’t often see horrific content from Canada.
@webbess1
@webbess1 Жыл бұрын
I would love for you to cover the case of Asha Degree.
@user-nc2ws5ed9b
@user-nc2ws5ed9b 4 ай бұрын
These boarding schools you speak of don’t only happen in Canada the US has had these as well all the way until the 1980’s
@batteryacid1
@batteryacid1 Ай бұрын
the last story is just terrifying. i dont think i will be sleeping tonight ☹️
@tinystalker1821
@tinystalker1821 Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI from someone thar lives close to Nanaimo, it's pronounced "Nah-Nye-Moe". Great video as always!
@forpeoplelikeme5964
@forpeoplelikeme5964 9 ай бұрын
You’d think that “justice” would mean Tim/Will would’ve been finally given a proper trial and held to account for his actions if he is now finally able to comprehend them. Not just be released. As it stands he’s served no ‘punishment’ he’s had his help - that I agree he should’ve had but didn’t get beforehand. However surely now in the same way it’s time there was justice for his family, which should have but didn’t happen first time? I’ve never understood why people are released when they’re finally declared “sane” surely that’s the time for the court case that didn’t happen to happen not freedom to be suddenly granted!!
@sirawesomenessi1796
@sirawesomenessi1796 Жыл бұрын
WHY DID I NOT WATCH IT IN FULL THE FIRST TIME?!?
@roy7765
@roy7765 Жыл бұрын
How the f*ck don’t you already have 1mil subs. Love your content! Keep up the great work
@mercymylord9416
@mercymylord9416 Жыл бұрын
I came I saw I subscribed....frfr☝🏿
@jacklloyd4376
@jacklloyd4376 Жыл бұрын
Just letting you know established titles has been outed as a scam
@liame2273
@liame2273 Жыл бұрын
I live on Vancouver island and man that Lisa Marie case freaks me tf out
@delylahmiller
@delylahmiller 4 ай бұрын
Someone really said “well it was only the first time he shown signs of mental illness” like he didn’t decapitate and eat someone wdym just the first time like what’s gonna happen the second time
@1garrett2100
@1garrett2100 Жыл бұрын
please bring back your old intro music, it was the best in the business
@realheckertrustmebro
@realheckertrustmebro 2 ай бұрын
It's so frustrating that people get away with not being criminally responsible due to their mental health disorders, it's so stupid. The court should only see the behavior in the crime and not what lead them to do it, the punishment should be given for the behavior and if it's not given, then the justice system is of no use.
@agpra1568
@agpra1568 Ай бұрын
Then you don’t understand the justice system. The entire point is rehabilitation, especially in Canada where capital punishment is not a thing. You punish people for their actions with the intent of persuading them to not offend again. If someone’s actions are uncontrollable due to a disability, there is no path to rehabilitation. There is only medication, moderation and monitoring, or institutionalization.
@Nutpackk
@Nutpackk Жыл бұрын
Damn I used to live in Nanimo and hear about Lisa Marie all the time that's crazy this hits home.... Literally..
@quasicrystal42
@quasicrystal42 Жыл бұрын
That grayhound bus story is so disturbing. I used to sleep in buses all the time before it happened. I haven't since I heard about that back then.
@ughung4454
@ughung4454 Жыл бұрын
I sit at the back of buses, since it happened
@VicTheFigGuy
@VicTheFigGuy 3 ай бұрын
Vince Ly should hace never been released. He brutally took a man's life in the most horrid of ways and pretty nuch got away with it. Family of victim did get their justice
@TheConC
@TheConC Жыл бұрын
Sorry you had to re-upload. Interacting to help out!
@tobintobintobin
@tobintobintobin 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing awareness to these aboriginal killings in Canada
@genji5312
@genji5312 5 ай бұрын
It’s weird to me how murderers dump/set fire to their escape vehicle and go on foot but never think about having a backup folding electric bike in their trunk.
@zbuddha420
@zbuddha420 Жыл бұрын
great video. i hope vince stays on his meds.
@toobytah
@toobytah Жыл бұрын
everyone be like: canadians are so nice actual canadians: ya...ya no we are not bud lol
@kreg8681
@kreg8681 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulRudd1941 tbf they crucified canadian soliders... so i'd see we are equal lmao
@kreg8681
@kreg8681 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulRudd1941 you aren’t 100% wrong. I believe there was a few propaganda comics about it. The stem from multiple reports of Germans crucifying Canadian officers
@CarmenRodriguez-gq5gq
@CarmenRodriguez-gq5gq Жыл бұрын
they let people get away with the worst crimes imaginable. Just like Japan.
@bendidio8720
@bendidio8720 Жыл бұрын
New Subscriber
@markwebster5749
@markwebster5749 Жыл бұрын
Welcome
@howdareyouexist
@howdareyouexist 6 ай бұрын
that established titles ad sure aged well, "serving a great purpose" 😂
@jennycat0592
@jennycat0592 Жыл бұрын
What's the background music called that you used? I've heard that in another video, very curious and want to find it.
@ryanstewart4444
@ryanstewart4444 Жыл бұрын
Aren't Nanaimo Bars a pretty common thing in both Canada and US?
@kreg8681
@kreg8681 Жыл бұрын
Great video like always
@masudaharris6435
@masudaharris6435 Жыл бұрын
This is why I've stopped using public transport. You never know who you're sitting next to.
@Chris-rh9ej
@Chris-rh9ej Жыл бұрын
So like, she said she was on a specific street, asked her friends to come get her, and they just didn’t???
@secretcrocodile7499
@secretcrocodile7499 Жыл бұрын
that greyhound guy free as a bird right now thanks to our government
@browniepudding8315
@browniepudding8315 Жыл бұрын
I need the crowd and the catchy music back for intro what is happening now is ludicrous
@bawnstar
@bawnstar Жыл бұрын
i remember being terrified hearing what was going on when they found the couple. edit: also thank you so much for covering the mmiw so well.
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