Can a New Diesel Make the 2020 Ram Rebel the Best Half-Ton Off-Roader? We Get It Dirty To Find Out!

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The Fast Lane Truck

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@devodar2579
@devodar2579 5 жыл бұрын
Ram started the small 1500 diesel; everyone said no one would buy it...now Ford and GM are in the game! Ram seems to be the winner when it comes to trucks anymore. I'd like to have this truck big time. Would love to tow a travel trailer on the weekends with that small diesel and then during the week get 30 MPG's going to work.
@ArmondB30
@ArmondB30 5 жыл бұрын
I like the look of this EcoRebel.
@k0conutk0mando
@k0conutk0mando 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty amazing the capability of these half ton trucks with the small displacement diesel. My 96 Ram 2500 with the 8.0 V10 is rated for roughly the same towing and payload capacity
@crazyhass84
@crazyhass84 5 жыл бұрын
8spd trans...
@tallll70
@tallll70 5 жыл бұрын
@@crazyhass84 exactly, even the difference from 4 speed to 6 made v6 half tons so much better
@jasonwilliams9712
@jasonwilliams9712 5 жыл бұрын
Still though, got that sweet V10
@claytondennis8034
@claytondennis8034 5 жыл бұрын
53k trouble free miles from my ecodiesel so far. It might explode tomorrow though, who knows. I get 25-27 mpg, and have towed 6k @14.5 mpg on several occasions. The possibility of 1,100 miles per tank in the new truck is getting my wallet nervous. Update: I had the AEM performed today. The engine was already warm, so I didn't experience any additional turbo lag/sluggish throttle response. I did have better transmission response, (seeking the highest gear without lagging) and fuel economy on the 70ish mile drive home from the dealership.
@MattSmith-vl8zp
@MattSmith-vl8zp 5 жыл бұрын
I told the guy who sold me my ecodiesel thesame thing...my wife bought a new jeep and he asked if i was ready for another truck yet...told him the 2020 ecodiesel has my eye haha
@herefishyfishy6907
@herefishyfishy6907 5 жыл бұрын
My 2017 F150 has a 36 gallon tank. It gets pretty spendy to fill up.
@baronvolkov6172
@baronvolkov6172 5 жыл бұрын
My first gen Raptor has a 36gal, and it gets about 13mpg talk about spendy. Haha
@TheHitSquadOffroad
@TheHitSquadOffroad 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 17 Eco on 37s and get better mileage on the streets than most Hemis on the freeway. Love my baby diesel
@herefishyfishy6907
@herefishyfishy6907 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHitSquadOffroad I have a 5.0I V8. I get 19.9 on the highway. It's not terrible but it's not great.
@TEC_Stuff
@TEC_Stuff 5 жыл бұрын
Great video showing the initial information. I appreciate your interviewing the Chief Diesel Engineer for Ram to get hands on information about the redesigned 3rd Gen. Ecodiesel. Keep up the good work, Andre.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 5 жыл бұрын
I will say the Tradesman package is probably the best bang for your buck. No other brand can offer a 4 door/quad cab big engine 4wd max tow for what Ram can.
@cheyenneobregon184
@cheyenneobregon184 5 жыл бұрын
Leland Holton how much does it run?
@ricwestdoesitwork
@ricwestdoesitwork 5 жыл бұрын
I think you found your new truck Andre. The new Ram Rebel eco- diesel. Thanks for sharing the details of the this truck Andre.
@jamespenner1412
@jamespenner1412 5 жыл бұрын
Andre is a chevy guy, he just does a dang good job at not showing bias in reviews. mr. truck could learn a few things from Andre, he is so ford everything.
@UNREAL8745
@UNREAL8745 5 жыл бұрын
James Penner Kent is the most pretentious person in all of TFL😂
@nobunaga-oda
@nobunaga-oda 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamespenner1412 👍🏻
@robertrichardson9953
@robertrichardson9953 5 жыл бұрын
@@UNREAL8745 maybe some of us have had bad luck with everything else but Ford. Maybe if you'd get your head out of your ass you'd know that.
@UNREAL8745
@UNREAL8745 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Richardson Maybe if you’d understand what “TFL, Home of Non-Biased Reviews” meant, you’d realize how far your head is up your own ass
@yogiyoda
@yogiyoda 5 жыл бұрын
When do we get first towing impressions?
@06colkurtz
@06colkurtz 5 жыл бұрын
Here is my experience. I have the Hemi in a 2015 1500, I LOVE it. Drives great. Wonderful power. Very smooth ride. Great interior. But I learned the hard way that they all break exhaust manifold studs. I ended having to replace all the studs and install new headers due to this endemic failure. It happened at 60K miles. I talked with RAM "Oh sure, they all do that" "Its because of the aluminum heads and iron block" Huh? Then I learned that the coolant bypass valve failed. "Oh sure, we do those all the time". Now its don't let it idle or you will see the roller cam followers fail. "Sure, been doing it for years". My daddy told me never buy a year one car. All the problems will surface and get fixed for the next model. Maybe this new diesel engine is fixing the problems. But maybe its bringing on a bunch of new problems. I will hang onto my 2015 Hemi truck. I mean, I just paid to get most of the "common" problems fixed!
@tdgdbs1
@tdgdbs1 5 жыл бұрын
Same problem here in addition to the AC compressor relay sticking and the oil pressure sensor; thought it was a teething problem in 2014 models. Not so, dealer told me the same with an Italian swag. Love the mpg but will be back to Cummins next time around.
@ChrisTian-lf2oh
@ChrisTian-lf2oh 5 жыл бұрын
God, I love this channel. Keep up the good work fellas! Cheers from Sweden
@simjet22
@simjet22 5 жыл бұрын
I have my doubts about this engine BUT.....I like the fact the offer the bigger 36gal tank. Only time will tell on the reliability of this engine.
@drbobvs
@drbobvs 5 жыл бұрын
simjet22 33gal
@jimbeam7248
@jimbeam7248 5 жыл бұрын
Once it hits the dealer lots I’m sure we’ll find out fairly fast whether it is reliable or not like the last one
@highline3617
@highline3617 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, they’re fiat diesels so who knows if it’ll last more than 30k miles🤷🏻‍♂️
@Big.rafausa
@Big.rafausa 5 жыл бұрын
It’s funny to see that RAM chief engineer is Italian.
@smokeu600
@smokeu600 5 жыл бұрын
Fiat owns them, so makes perfect sense 👍 And the eco diesel was developed/sold in Europe before coming to the states.
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw 5 жыл бұрын
No he is from VM and was Chief Engineer on the Eco Diesel for Ram
@SantanKGhey1234
@SantanKGhey1234 5 жыл бұрын
so what? why does it matter? you must be American
@mpsangha
@mpsangha 5 жыл бұрын
He's not the Ram Chief Engineer..... just chief engineer of the Eco diesel!
@06colkurtz
@06colkurtz 5 жыл бұрын
It was an observation. You are over reacting.
@jamespanda7887
@jamespanda7887 5 жыл бұрын
2 egr's, 2x more likely to break,or 2x more annoying to delete? Also kind of hard to understand what the engineer is saying sometimes, Some subtitles would be nice.
@dillonh321
@dillonh321 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Italians.
@natehawkins2910
@natehawkins2910 5 жыл бұрын
James panda Let me try: “Ats-a Lott-a exhaust-a ...And now-a we gotta more-a reliability-a”
@Slingsomelead
@Slingsomelead 5 жыл бұрын
Looks great! I bet it’s going to be class leading in recalls as well 😒
@843MudMafia.
@843MudMafia. 5 жыл бұрын
All trucks have recalls so don't go there
@Slingsomelead
@Slingsomelead 5 жыл бұрын
Darius Hope as many as ram? Absolutely not lol you wanna go there?
@David_TX
@David_TX 5 жыл бұрын
Had a chevy that was in the shop for recalls more often than my own driveway.. my ram has had 3 recalls
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 5 жыл бұрын
Slingsomelead 🤣🤣 Ford is king of recalls!
@dmoney6633
@dmoney6633 5 жыл бұрын
John Doe that’s facts
@toastie10BR
@toastie10BR 5 жыл бұрын
The show is great. If you guys ever decide to do a TFL Motorcycle, I would be more than happy to test bikes for you.
@LucasLeCompteMusic
@LucasLeCompteMusic 5 жыл бұрын
As much as I wanna love the new eco diesel, its so hard to trust FCA diesels.
@highbrass3749
@highbrass3749 5 жыл бұрын
FCA anything.
@leadnsteel1428
@leadnsteel1428 5 жыл бұрын
I would rather have Chevys straight 6 diesel in the 1500... except gms 2500 is giving them problems with the stupid emissions crap
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 5 жыл бұрын
Because Gen 1 failed regularly at 150k miles or less and check engine lights came on and we're difficult if not impossible to solve are 2 great reasons not to trust these economy diesels.
@gevorgnazaryan8720
@gevorgnazaryan8720 5 жыл бұрын
That towing mirror trick was the coolest thing I’ve seen
@cjready1
@cjready1 5 жыл бұрын
When do you think you will do a side by side comparison of Chevy, Chrysler and Ford Diesels
@zeex-14rse57
@zeex-14rse57 5 жыл бұрын
Cool that RAM is putting more engine choices for the consumer. I have no need for a 1/2 ton diesel, much less a 1/2 ton. Still cool regardless.
@allendavid4139
@allendavid4139 5 жыл бұрын
You’ll have to get Roman to splash the cash and trade you’re gas version for a diesel long term
@scarhart53
@scarhart53 5 жыл бұрын
Trade you are gas version?????
@USMCPFC1
@USMCPFC1 5 жыл бұрын
@@scarhart53 TFL own a 5.7 hemi v8 "gas" rebel as a long term vehicle.
@macksoutdoors757
@macksoutdoors757 5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you guys were in gilbert!! Saw everything getting setup when I was at the park on Sunday. Wish I could've stayed up and met you guys. Hope they have more demos there in the future
@Allegronaut
@Allegronaut 5 жыл бұрын
With the price of diesel fuel, the required use of def fluid, and the probability of a premium price for the engine, 1/2 ton diesels just don't really make much sense.
@sukemecuke
@sukemecuke 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed on all parts. Not to mention with all that added EPA BS has made diesels way more complex and more unreliable. I would have rather seen them abandon the diesel idea and come out with a twin turbo gas motor like the F150.
@Allegronaut
@Allegronaut 5 жыл бұрын
@@sukemecuke That's an interesting idea, imagine a turbocharged hemi, that's more interesting than a diesel and probably a lot cheaper to develop.
@zb6618
@zb6618 5 жыл бұрын
Diesel in Iowa has been 10 cents or less than regular gas in Iowa for a few years, combine that with def and higher maintenance and you about even out
@sukemecuke
@sukemecuke 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmyers2428 yeah if you can afford a 60k truck putting in premium fuel shouldn't be of much concern.
@sukemecuke
@sukemecuke 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmyers2428 The biggest thing on the ecodiesel is its had a butt load of issues. Even with some motors blowing with less than 20k on them. So it isn't so much the maintenance but the EPA crap has made those motors ticking time bombs.
@CleaningMyGun
@CleaningMyGun 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a video on just the changes for the 3rd Gen EcoDiesel. Question: How does the new engine cool the EGRs?
@GTurbski
@GTurbski 5 жыл бұрын
Coolant
@0341devdog
@0341devdog 5 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed is that new tailgate. Haven't seen it action yet.
@interpol007
@interpol007 5 жыл бұрын
Jared Kurtti we got em at our dealership. They’re pretty cool
@juanguiter7972
@juanguiter7972 5 жыл бұрын
I been drooling over the power wagon. But this kind of caught my eye
@ggqbc
@ggqbc 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@lordnetsplits3192
@lordnetsplits3192 5 жыл бұрын
I recommend buying a salvaged power wagon and putting a cummins in it. these eco diesels are based around european qualitu diesel fuel, north american diesel fuels are hard on these motors and cause massive failures.
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 5 жыл бұрын
I still got a 3/4-ton Power Wagon, I don't really care about the diesel.
@gregoryburris6374
@gregoryburris6374 5 жыл бұрын
My best friend saved his butt off for a new truck. He works construction up north. He bought one...told him to be careful! Nothing but problems with this engine. Always in the dealership. Fact he's in there often enough , they won't give him a loaner anymore. Damn good looking trucks...but pass!!!! But talked to a guy a couple if weeks ago at the pump and said he's had no problems whatsoever
@gregoryburris6374
@gregoryburris6374 5 жыл бұрын
Here's another thing! I'm shopping for a new diesel at the moment... 🙄
@zeex-14rse57
@zeex-14rse57 5 жыл бұрын
Every brand has their problems. talking to 2 different people is not a true indication of vehicle issues. If that were the case, no companies would be able to sell anything...after turning wrenches for 10 years, I'd never own a GM product, but still would buy a RAM even with the few issues I did have. My current Ford PS is not perfect either. It's been in the shop 5 times since March 2018 when I bought it new. sooo, Buy what will work for you and use the hell out of the warranty. Only way companies learn to make their shit better.
@gregoryburris6374
@gregoryburris6374 5 жыл бұрын
@@zeex-14rse57 true words!! I test drove the ram diesel the other day. Damn...its beautiful inside and out! Plenty of power! But I can hear my dad telling me not to do it! Lol. So I have the Chevy 1500 , Ford EcoBoost 6 , and the little diesel Colorado to drive today. Take care
@gregoryburris6374
@gregoryburris6374 5 жыл бұрын
Next is upgrades for whatever I get!! Tuners e.g
@billymc2681
@billymc2681 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I just don't think diesel engines in half ton trucks make any sense. But I do like the tailgate design. Not so fond of those latches mounted on the bed however. I can see items getting hung up on them when getting dragged out.
@desvariosdeuncamionero8856
@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 5 жыл бұрын
It's all about mpg, GM's can make up to , I think, 33 mpg hwy, plus almost same towing capacity ,that's neat, at least for me
@billymc2681
@billymc2681 5 жыл бұрын
@@desvariosdeuncamionero8856 But the added cost of the engine, fuel and maintenance make that offset in better mpg a moot point for a long time. Some gas engines are getting more than 20 mpg and are getting better all the time. Ecodiesel engines don't exactly inspire confidence in durability either. Yes, the Italian engineer with the cool accent said otherwise, but what do you think he is supposed to say? Granted, I'm a Ford F150 kinda guy, but would not consider a Powerstroke in a half ton anytime soon.
@JeremySchoeder
@JeremySchoeder 5 жыл бұрын
@@billymc2681 People on the Ram forums have been asking for a baby diesel for a long time. Now, whether or not they buy it is the question.
@alecbaye9703
@alecbaye9703 5 жыл бұрын
billy mc damn just cause he’s Italian you don’t trust him? Racist much?
@Magilla480
@Magilla480 5 жыл бұрын
@@alecbaye9703 way to jump to ignorant conclusions. It's the head engineer, he's not gonna bring negative info about his new engine in an interview, regardless of him being Italian, or German, or russian, etc. Stop reaching for the offended butthurt schtick.
@jeffreyhornbaker1544
@jeffreyhornbaker1544 5 жыл бұрын
Had a 2016, never again. Still a VM sourced engine. Show me a 10yr/100k unlimited bumper to bumper warranty, and we'll see
@RFJersey
@RFJersey 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Hornbaker I heard those engines were a nightmare.
@colekreger7825
@colekreger7825 5 жыл бұрын
Pitty you had problems 120k on my 2015 and still love it
@rsg1963
@rsg1963 5 жыл бұрын
@Jeffrey Hornbaker We are at 87k miles on our 2016 and zero issues even after the emission update, she runs like a champ and gets an average of 25 MPG. My son also has a 2014 Eco with 104K miles and zero issues (2nd owner since 44K) We will be buying another just like 10's of thousands of others will be so I'm sure they will not need to chase your couple of dollars down.
@RFJersey
@RFJersey 5 жыл бұрын
rsg1963 I find it hard to believe you haven’t had any issues.
@loganholmberg2295
@loganholmberg2295 5 жыл бұрын
The barn door tailgate is way more interesting than the diesel IMO. Just like the passthrough storage and seat on the Rivian is the coolest thing on that truck. If manufactures want to separate themselves from the pack they need to look at functional design changes like these. My Dad for instance loves to buy RAm trucks because of its storage options like the RAM box and in floor storage. People poo poo it because it takes away from the bed space but my Dad uses it for camping, fishing and as a daily driver. And these things are awesome for that. My mom loves to use them too for shopping and her hobby supplies so much that she won't let my Dad get a truck without them. Personally I have a friend who has a Ridgeline with the in bed storage box. I like that option so much! It's great for storing all kind of things you don't want to get wet or store in the passenger cabin. If I was comfortable sitting in one and it had the towing and offroading cap I wanted I would think about getting it. When it comes to storage and access Trucks need the equivalent of van stow and go seating IMO. The company that comes up with that is going to sell a shit ton of trucks. I really think it's the thing allot of people don't realize they really want. Because let's face it. Using a Tonneau cover to keep things dry is a pain in the ass. Stuff gets shifted to the front of the box and truck boxes are so tall nowadays that they are impractical for a lot of people unless you are doing construction. I use mine for camping and a wheelchair and I honestly miss the box in my old 2001 F150 cause it was accessible without the need for hooky steps. I'm 6'6" and even I have a difficult time getting things out of my 2014 Sierra's box sometimes. It's too bad that a lot of people don't see the Ridgeline as a viable option in a truck because of its limitations. I bet for a lot of people its all they really need cause the worst road they are going to take it on is a grid road. Its only issue is that its not very "off road worthy" so a lot of people don't look at it even though they don't off road their trucks.
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting to see what this truck was going to bring to the table since I’m in the market for a 1/2 ton diesel. Looks like the Ram is going to be very competitive. With the 3rd generation engine having 80% new parts it won’t make a difference who you go with you will be taking a crapshoot since there really isn’t any track record for any of the 1/2 ton Diesel engines. I wish Ram would have redesigned the Ram Box so it was a side opener. You can’t have a set of racks or a shell and use them. Oh well, it was just going to cost a bunch more $$ if I got it. GMC still wins in the tail gate department with that 6 way tail gate.
@S42069
@S42069 5 жыл бұрын
Except the tailgate doesn't work with any type of tow hitch.. woops.
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 жыл бұрын
Spencer Bane I hadn’t heard about that. Are you saying that the truck can’t accept a receiver hitch or that you can’t attach a ball to the bumper? I’m assuming you are referring to the GMC.
@S42069
@S42069 5 жыл бұрын
@@secondamendment8773 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZOlY5-glJdgeas
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 жыл бұрын
Spencer Bane That’s funny. I did a search and didn’t find anything about it. Thanks for the link. That sure makes that a lot less useful.
@shaunmeldrum4302
@shaunmeldrum4302 5 жыл бұрын
8:23 - I'm so glad you called them "HVAC controls." A real tradesman!
@DadsDomain
@DadsDomain 5 жыл бұрын
That feeling when you realize it has basically the same payload as my sienna
@nookbandit
@nookbandit 5 жыл бұрын
Dads Domain I would have thought the sinking feeling came when you bought a minivan
@DadsDomain
@DadsDomain 5 жыл бұрын
nookbandit Ha! Yes you are correct but by that point we were surrounded by kids and all their stuff. Couldn’t afford a suburban so we went that route. Say what you will though as far as functionality is concerned it’s hard to beat
@rsg1963
@rsg1963 5 жыл бұрын
@@DadsDomain Agreed. Only your soul and pride are asked for in exchange. lol, jk of course they are so practical they are hard to deny. That's part of the problem I think. All brown clothing is also practical, but....
@RFJersey
@RFJersey 5 жыл бұрын
Dads Domain What an embarrassment to drive a minivan.
@USMCPFC1
@USMCPFC1 5 жыл бұрын
@@RFJersey how is it embarrassing? He paid for it, he owns it. What others think are of little consequence when it comes to what we come out of pocket for.
@t.i.o.motorsports243
@t.i.o.motorsports243 5 жыл бұрын
If the tradesman come in full crew cab and 4X4 with the bigger tank I am sold I don't need all the extra fancy stuff
@colekreger7825
@colekreger7825 5 жыл бұрын
dont think you can get the bigger tank, requires a upgraded cab bell and wistle package on the current gas engine models at least
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen Tradesmen level trucks on my local dealer lot. That had crew cab, 6'4" bed, and the 31 gallon tank. Find out who does the ordering at your favorite dealer. And give a written wish list. They will; have one, find one, or order one for you.
@MiguelMartinez1980
@MiguelMartinez1980 5 жыл бұрын
I own a 2017 Eco-Diesel and I owned a 2014 Eco-Diesel as well. I cannot wait to get this new version.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think tfl knows what water logged means
@Psalm146-2
@Psalm146-2 5 жыл бұрын
Rick James cause they’re going to waterlog a 2020 Rebel...
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone: waterlogged = stalled while under water. TFL: waterlogged: Drive 'er through that puddle boys!
@herefishyfishy6907
@herefishyfishy6907 5 жыл бұрын
Are these Eco-diesels going to grenade at 5k miles again?
@kenosando
@kenosando 5 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to make it almost 100,000 before mine went belly-up.
@2dthoughts
@2dthoughts 5 жыл бұрын
Oh! Shit! I’ve got a bad feeling 2 foreigners talking, foreign designed, American trucks We’re in trouble with this one aren’t we. Lol
@SantanKGhey1234
@SantanKGhey1234 5 жыл бұрын
Typical American Racism right here....
@2dthoughts
@2dthoughts 5 жыл бұрын
Pussaty No it’s Nationalism if anything. Lol Nationality and race are two different things Before hurling comments like that read the definition of the words you use
@jmar7814
@jmar7814 5 жыл бұрын
Your point is what? Ford's president of North America is from India. Before that he was the President of Engineering in North America for the company. It really makes no difference where people are from. It probably would surprise you that, the best engineers in the world aren't from the United States.
@2dthoughts
@2dthoughts 5 жыл бұрын
J MAR There is no point It’s a joke You know?Ha Ha?
@jacksontyler4925
@jacksontyler4925 5 жыл бұрын
@@SantanKGhey1234 Typical triggerdism right there
@ejesoriginal
@ejesoriginal 5 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping the 2020 Rebel would not have the red accents in the interior. I know a lot of folks like it, but not my cup of tea.
@robertrichardson9953
@robertrichardson9953 5 жыл бұрын
Then keep your ass out of one
@garthhayward9581
@garthhayward9581 5 жыл бұрын
Have driven Ecodiesel and the 3.1 before that, great motors, this one is the best I've seen so far and those RAM beds are brilliant.
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich 5 жыл бұрын
did they rework the cams so they don't become divorced from the timing gears?
@erictrinklein4408
@erictrinklein4408 5 жыл бұрын
That is the big question that seems to be avoided.
@claytondennis8034
@claytondennis8034 5 жыл бұрын
No. Still a pressed on interference fit
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich 5 жыл бұрын
@@claytondennis8034 boo
@joelrepass2379
@joelrepass2379 5 жыл бұрын
I like the ecodiesel and it is a pretty reliable engine from my experience. The only issue is the DPF gets clogged if you aren’t careful.
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 3 жыл бұрын
Just fill the DEF tank at half a tank. Runs fine that way.
@aaronandhayleyskinner3249
@aaronandhayleyskinner3249 5 жыл бұрын
Quick ram call cummins and tell them you're sorry and you were wrong. Beg them to let you use the 5.0 v8!!
@jorgegarcia1635
@jorgegarcia1635 5 жыл бұрын
Trucks Cars And Campers ,ask Nissan how they are doing with the cummins 5.0
@aaronandhayleyskinner3249
@aaronandhayleyskinner3249 5 жыл бұрын
Jorge Garcia that's why I said ram should get it now. The Nissan was an odd setup for most and people are use to ram with cummins.
@colekreger7825
@colekreger7825 5 жыл бұрын
5.0 would not make the mileage numbers,
@aaronandhayleyskinner3249
@aaronandhayleyskinner3249 5 жыл бұрын
Cole Kreger no but it would have the reliability. Or they could beg for the 2.8 4cyl cummins
@chasf1066
@chasf1066 5 жыл бұрын
Those laches for the tailgate stick up to high and will be in the way and get smashed. Plus still no step to step up into bed. Also do the tailgates open more then the 90 degrees.
@mcool4587
@mcool4587 5 жыл бұрын
I hope this engine doesn't carry over the infamous bosh injection pump that will blow up and leave you on the side of the road and with a $6k bill to replace it, the fuel lines and injectors! My mid size Chevy Colorado ZR2 has a higher payload rating than the RAM. Wait, I only see only 4 head bolts per cylinder on that aluminum head! With 18:1 compression, and 20 lbs of turbo boost......can you say head gasket issues down the road especially at max towing??? Be careful when you test this truck on the Ike!
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 5 жыл бұрын
A Colorado with over 2k pounds of payload? Well there is a first for everything.
@mcool4587
@mcool4587 5 жыл бұрын
Go to the 7:07 mark. The ram has 1,200 payload capacity. Same as the Colorado zR2
@bajamike3803
@bajamike3803 5 жыл бұрын
The eco diesel with a manual would sell well. They should try again with it.
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 5 жыл бұрын
I like manual transmissions myself. But conventional turbochargers like the exhust flow profile that an automatic delivers. It does seem that the VGT turbos should be able to work well with a manual. Belt driven superchargers work fine with a manual. I own a 2016 ecodiesel with 132k miles. Mostly highway. But some offroad adventuring. I would like to see a 4 to 1 transfer case low range, stick or auto. I have the 3.92 axle ratio.
@oobiegoobie940
@oobiegoobie940 5 жыл бұрын
I like the rebel ecodiesel with the rambox, but the 1198 lb payload is a deal breaker for me.
@sothickitssickk
@sothickitssickk 5 жыл бұрын
That is 5 grown men that are 200 lbs each and some luggage.... lower than chevy tahoe
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 жыл бұрын
My traverse is just under 1700 payload
@marlonpatriz9515
@marlonpatriz9515 5 жыл бұрын
It’s rated for that much only because the truck has some weight on it, but I would trust it to handle just as much as the ford or chevy.
@okigojuryu
@okigojuryu 5 жыл бұрын
My truck has a 1k ib payload, I'm easily passing that with just my Dad and me thanks to tools, frankly I wouldn't use the payload as a "how much stuff I can haul", but rather"how much tounge weight it can handle" simply due to the fact that my suspension, even with full payload, doesn't even drop an inch, vs having 1k on the tounge drops it a noticeable amount, as one of the guys said however, I bet that payload is underrated.
@ismet_sxv
@ismet_sxv 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't even sound bad at all Sounds good
@JayElement13
@JayElement13 5 жыл бұрын
Fiat/Chrysler holds the title on how many recalls a automotive can have theres recalls all across there platform Jeep ram Chrysler dodge fiat someone should give them a trophy
@tallll70
@tallll70 5 жыл бұрын
On the other side of the coin i rather have recall fix for free. I like my Explorer, but the always failing PTU is sealed and no way to maintain from factory, left for consumer to deal with it
@leehancock2782
@leehancock2782 5 жыл бұрын
Ford just denies it exists
@Josh47147
@Josh47147 5 жыл бұрын
Better to have a recall than sweep issues under the rug until there are lawsuits like ford and gm....
@jsboening
@jsboening 5 жыл бұрын
It’s sad. I was getting one in the mail every few weeks for a while. I just started stacking them up in hopes they would stop coming and I could just get them all done in one shot.
@Prayforthesufferingchildren
@Prayforthesufferingchildren 4 жыл бұрын
I literally just build this exact same Rebel truck on Rams website 2 days ago except I had the 12in screen and the sunroof. Looks even better on video. Now only if I could afford it lol
@kishbrowning
@kishbrowning 5 жыл бұрын
Really curious about the mpg numbers on this
@joyroc885
@joyroc885 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how most manufactures are going to big grilles but ram went the other way. :)
@UNREAL8745
@UNREAL8745 5 жыл бұрын
2:05 That sneeze in the background tho😂
@jonathanswinford88
@jonathanswinford88 5 жыл бұрын
Taylon Fitch lol that's hilarious God bless them an who ever else was around them😂😂😂
@doctube2020
@doctube2020 5 жыл бұрын
Seasonal allergies ;-)
@meramosjr
@meramosjr 5 жыл бұрын
I hope he wasn’t performing s precision calibration of the crash restraint system when he sneezed.
@victorrafa6540
@victorrafa6540 5 жыл бұрын
What is the computer saying for mileage per gallon??
@markbremmer8642
@markbremmer8642 5 жыл бұрын
Error, error, error, fatal error!!!🤣🤣🤣
@natehawkins2910
@natehawkins2910 5 жыл бұрын
Victor Rafa It don’t say anything, you gotta read it. (An old three stooges line) haha
@SinSGone
@SinSGone 5 жыл бұрын
Man, FCA keeps tempting me, a possible 797hp large 4-door, a 707hp manual coupe, a 707hp SUV, a 475hp small 3-row SUV, a diesel 1/2 ton off road pickup, an insane HD pickup interior. Please stop! If they were more reliable, I probably couldn't help myself but have a couple...
@jimbeam7248
@jimbeam7248 5 жыл бұрын
They are reliable
@SinSGone
@SinSGone 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimbeam7248 Yeah, I have an 06' Ram and a 99' Durango. They have both been pretty good, but compared to my 05' Camry & 08' Sienna, they just don't come close. I am too busy and in the middle of nowhere. Even 1 issue a year is too much for me to take care of. Both Mopars have about that, 1 per year, but the Toyota's in their whole life have never been in for work.
@coryhawkins967
@coryhawkins967 5 жыл бұрын
Chief engineer that still uses a flip phone, I don't trust this fancy talking guy lol
@jeepdogjl8687
@jeepdogjl8687 5 жыл бұрын
Since Nissan is going to stop using the 5.0 Cummings, FCA should get the rights to use it and put it in the Ram, Wrangler, and Gladiators.
@torstenswanson2530
@torstenswanson2530 5 жыл бұрын
The 5.0 isn’t good enough on fuel. Eco diesels are primarily for fuel mileage. I would certainly trust Cummins reliability more though!
@Allegronaut
@Allegronaut 5 жыл бұрын
This truck has some neat features like the innovative console storage, the Rambox with the switched 120v outlet, and that cool tailgate. Unfortunately the Ecodiesel seems rather lackluster without any pricing or mpg specs, and the hemi still sounds better!
@milowhite539
@milowhite539 5 жыл бұрын
Really curious if there is an exhaust break.by the look of the last two videos on the ecodiesel I think I’m going to be disappointed.
@GTurbski
@GTurbski 5 жыл бұрын
No exhaust brake.
@rsg1963
@rsg1963 5 жыл бұрын
Not likely. But aftermarket seems to have a solution. I checked and would consider it. I'm surprised with all the towing blathering going on they did not include it. Would be a great selling feature. Make it optional, I'd buy it!
@thorbostrom5883
@thorbostrom5883 5 жыл бұрын
So, is this the engine they are planning to stuff into the Gladiator?
@Magilla480
@Magilla480 5 жыл бұрын
Yasss! Gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!
@RFJersey
@RFJersey 5 жыл бұрын
Magilla480 Why? I have heard that the engine is an unreliable mess. Has anything changed?
@Magilla480
@Magilla480 5 жыл бұрын
@@RFJersey you've heard about an engine that hasn't even been released yet, huh? Must be nice knowing this mystical future we live in. 🙄
@jeepertv
@jeepertv 5 жыл бұрын
In China, there is a place that is very suitable for 4WD Rock-climbing. It is called Hooke Trail. We shoot some videos of Jeep Wrangler and King of Hammer. Off-road enthusiasts are welcome to experience the Hooke Trail ! There must be different gains!
@guyconnell2250
@guyconnell2250 5 жыл бұрын
I actually like my '14 Ecodiesel a lot. Except for the CEL every few months and the resultant "software update" that "fixed" each CEL, and the ever declining mpg, and the fact that it got 5 years old and out of warranty. Can we expect better with the new version?
@MrAdamJoel
@MrAdamJoel 5 жыл бұрын
Please update with the MPG ratings when they drop and also availability. Thx!
@ginogina4589
@ginogina4589 5 жыл бұрын
In the market but...how long will the Chrysler-Fiat arrangement last? This is a new, untested engine? What’s likelihood of parts availability down the road? I’ll stick with the V8 for now.
@Josh47147
@Josh47147 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, this basic engine architecture has been around longer than you think.
@tjbohmier46
@tjbohmier46 5 жыл бұрын
Looks promising. Please update us asap on the 4Q missing numbers, for us December purchasers!
@Mr.Ramirez95
@Mr.Ramirez95 5 жыл бұрын
I'm buying 2 of these eco diesels. One for my boat, one for off-road adventures.
@BryanRojo
@BryanRojo 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Ramirez95 damn!
@Mr.Ramirez95
@Mr.Ramirez95 5 жыл бұрын
@@BryanRojo It's KZbin. You can say anything you want while providing absolutely no evidence. 😂
@bravo9890
@bravo9890 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to how long these new mini diesels will last.
@JPE_DRAEB
@JPE_DRAEB 5 жыл бұрын
Andre what is the towing numbers for the 4x4 Rebel EcoDiesel?
@ChevyNglockMan
@ChevyNglockMan 5 жыл бұрын
Should be 11000
@JPE_DRAEB
@JPE_DRAEB 5 жыл бұрын
Well that isn't so bad, but thought diesel could pull more than gas! So why go Diesel?
@danielhaynie5502
@danielhaynie5502 5 жыл бұрын
Fuel mileage
@JPE_DRAEB
@JPE_DRAEB 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielhaynie5502 So the extra 5K for the Diesel and $100 plus dollar oil changes and DEF washes out any fuel mileage advantages. NEXT!!! :)
@danielhaynie5502
@danielhaynie5502 5 жыл бұрын
@@JPE_DRAEB I agree, but that's what people buy into, because diesels do better on fuel. Gimmick or not, its true.
@piglet577
@piglet577 5 жыл бұрын
Have they Fixed all the problems with the eco diesel ???? from the previous gen ????
@stevecaruso8199
@stevecaruso8199 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Lemont Thats one of the first things they were mentioning is that it’s a redesigned engine. Heard the fix for the previous engine was not received well. Hoping this one is better.
@billjohnson2626
@billjohnson2626 5 жыл бұрын
I think so I have a 2018 no issues yet and 26,500 miles
@joelrepass2379
@joelrepass2379 5 жыл бұрын
James Wilson my 2014 has been great pal. Only issue is DPF will get clogged if you shut the truck off during regen, or if you fill the def tank all the way and the DEF expires and crystallizes. All diesels have to be built pretty strong because of how they run.
@natehawkins2910
@natehawkins2910 5 жыл бұрын
Joel Repass My goodness how long do you let your truck sit at a time to get your DEF to expire?! A year? lol
@joelrepass2379
@joelrepass2379 5 жыл бұрын
@@natehawkins2910 No but some stores let it sit that long. I now only buy from the dealer now
@willb3018
@willb3018 5 жыл бұрын
IF Chris Cuomo watched this channel we could call it the Fredo Diesel and look for two pages of profane rants. .😁
@kman-mi7su
@kman-mi7su 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Cuomo truly is Fredo, he proved it! He is the Eco diesel of humans.
@willb3018
@willb3018 5 жыл бұрын
@@kman-mi7su 😂🤣😂
@Unburdened_Beauty
@Unburdened_Beauty 5 жыл бұрын
FREDO 2020!!!!!!!!!
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 5 жыл бұрын
@@kman-mi7su I laughed having no idea what this means!
@RLC2020
@RLC2020 5 жыл бұрын
I drive a 5.7 for a reason. Unless you drive 50k miles a year, you will never break even with the diesel. Plus, I couldn't live without that V8 sound
@Josh47147
@Josh47147 5 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@alporan9087
@alporan9087 5 жыл бұрын
Does the larger fuel tank affect the payload capacity? I imagine it would, right? So is the 1200 lb with the larger or smaller fuel tank?
@TheTsunamijuan
@TheTsunamijuan 5 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my 2018 Cummins 2500HD. I always feel if you can haul 2k+ in the bed than its not a truck. If the best you can do is 500-1000lbs , people are likely to still put those higher weight amounts in the back and either cause an accident or damage it. While something that small might work for people that are primarily city dwellers. If your using it as part of a fleet, or are taking advantage of the cargo on a daily basis, I don't feel like these cut it.
@xzibito187
@xzibito187 5 жыл бұрын
I see allot of bent dodge tail gates, I wonder how durable this new one is..?? but I do like the split tail gate idea
@johng4527
@johng4527 5 жыл бұрын
Probably says more about dodge drivers than the tailgate itself.
@tjshine8022
@tjshine8022 5 жыл бұрын
Towing capacity should not be dictated by how much power the truck has. It should be determined by stability, weight, braking and handling capacity of the truck. A light weight 1/2 Ton truck is not stable on the highway pulling 12,000 lbs!
@clayster89
@clayster89 5 жыл бұрын
nope, but the numbers sell it!
@billjohnson2626
@billjohnson2626 5 жыл бұрын
I have a ram 1500 eco diesel 2018 and I pulled a 31 travel trailer plus tongue and it weighed about 8500 pounds plus cargo and cargo in the back of the truck it did damn well going over the mountains and just in general driving 60-70mph
@clayster89
@clayster89 5 жыл бұрын
@Tripple Threat and then you woke up..
@tjshine8022
@tjshine8022 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there will be plenty of "Non-Tow Peeps" out there pulling 12K lbs with that and doing 70mph! Trailer swaying form one lane to the other...
@billjohnson2626
@billjohnson2626 5 жыл бұрын
James Wilson I’ve pulled the same trailer with a ram 2500 the only things I noticed was accelerating was quicker but that was with a 6.7 Cummins and it had exhaust breaks going. Down hill. But I would say if we got much bigger then that the 1/2 would have an issue.
@timmytravis
@timmytravis 5 жыл бұрын
wow tailgate very similar to Ridgeline that introduced it in 2013
@Woodywoodzzz
@Woodywoodzzz 5 жыл бұрын
Ridgeline introduced it in 2006.
@millionsignatures9784
@millionsignatures9784 5 жыл бұрын
I hope they can talk about the the exaust system ! was the big failure on previous trucks !.
@MrBull-zc6xt
@MrBull-zc6xt 5 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't do another video on this Eco Diesel, until you get mpg.
@jimnielsen4076
@jimnielsen4076 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Great details!
@dotustm8926
@dotustm8926 5 жыл бұрын
QUESTIONS!!! ok can you confirm 100% that you didnt miss speak. You said the eco can now have the larger 33gal tank as an option? In the past, only the smaller tank was available, with ram saying the def tank took up the extra space of the larger fuel cell. Please confirm if you are right on the larger Tank being a true option on the ecoD.
@dangoleshootnetwork6036
@dangoleshootnetwork6036 5 жыл бұрын
I saw an axle lock button near the transmission dial, but you didn't talk about it. Is there a selectable rear locker on the new 2020 Ram Rebel 1500 Eco Diesel?
@chrisblanton1087
@chrisblanton1087 5 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting for the video with the Chevy, Ford, and Ram half ton diesels. . I'm still not sold on this engine. Guys that had them over 100,000 miles started having major issues with them. Hopefully the 80% redesign addressed a lot of those issues.
@sheepdog819
@sheepdog819 5 жыл бұрын
Just wish it had a front bench seat option.. 😒
@sheepdog819
@sheepdog819 5 жыл бұрын
@Daver G nope.. You can get em. Ty for chiming in.
@mattloomis5386
@mattloomis5386 5 жыл бұрын
cummins 4bt swap and you really got somthen there!
@zxej6879
@zxej6879 5 жыл бұрын
The R2.8 engine has more power stock than a 4BT. And is lighter in weight. Highly modified can be more power. For a price.
@bigugly1911
@bigugly1911 5 жыл бұрын
The EGR system and horrible lubrication is the main thing that caused issues with the older versions of this engine. Didnt hear him say anything about improving the oil pathways, and capacity. If they didnt change this.......it will be trash. Also the cranks splitting on the older version was a major problem. (I do believe that was remedied however) I wouldnt buy one. I sure wouldnt keep it out of warranty.
@drbobvs
@drbobvs 5 жыл бұрын
Still would LOVE to have at 4WD Auto mode in the rebel!
@danielhaynie5502
@danielhaynie5502 5 жыл бұрын
Auto lock in the ram means clutch pack only. There is no lock ring, which means no true 4wd.
@leehancock2782
@leehancock2782 5 жыл бұрын
I hope a new cam gear and main bearings are part of that 80% new parts.
@chrisblanton1087
@chrisblanton1087 5 жыл бұрын
No kidding, exactly what i was thinking. Those were the main issues people were having.
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 5 жыл бұрын
New tailgate options are interesting. So are the towing mirror/road mirror combination. I like the integrated lock box in the fender. Been thinking that space would have been good for that for decades. NEW trucks have sure become very complex. Wish I had a need and the $ for one. :P
@dennisb7317
@dennisb7317 5 жыл бұрын
Will the ecodiesel have the option for the etorqu?
@Josh47147
@Josh47147 5 жыл бұрын
Good question. Considering the stop/start, i say why not?
@natehawkins2910
@natehawkins2910 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Lee I didn’t see a stop/start button on the dash where it normally would be, I’m thinking this one hasn’t got stop/start
@Julian-do7bv
@Julian-do7bv 5 жыл бұрын
So how does this truck have ram boxes and the new tail gate when you cant even get it on the website yet
@meramosjr
@meramosjr 5 жыл бұрын
Ram: 2020’s winner of most recalls award.
@jackal1168
@jackal1168 4 жыл бұрын
meramosjr nawww....GM will beat them again in 2020. Top seven unreliable trucks for 2019 out of the seven they were four GM trucks one Nissan one Toyota and one RAM.
@ati573
@ati573 5 жыл бұрын
So is the same engine going in the gladiator and wrangler. That's going to be awesome
@lylejohnson2360
@lylejohnson2360 5 жыл бұрын
That's cool that the ram box lights let you see in the dark...😎
@garymax992
@garymax992 4 жыл бұрын
Did they get the ERG problem fixed and what about valve seats failing early.
@monkeydoublebackflips240
@monkeydoublebackflips240 4 жыл бұрын
Roman sells me on the importance of torque everytime
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 5 жыл бұрын
Put this Diesel in the Power Wagon. I would prefer the 6.7 Cummins of the 5.0 liter Cummins. Will take any diesel in the Power wagon.
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 5 жыл бұрын
How are you saying this? The 6.4 HEMI does just fine.
@Eternal-2740
@Eternal-2740 5 жыл бұрын
Paulo Abesamis - Torque over HP for off-roading plus better gas mileage would make a lot of Power Wagon owners happy.
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 5 жыл бұрын
@@Eternal-2740 funny I don't see this on forums other than here.
@okigojuryu
@okigojuryu 5 жыл бұрын
@@Eternal-2740 but the diesels are so danm heavy, and the intercooler would have to go where the winch already is, so it ain't happening.
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 5 жыл бұрын
Getting a V6 in a 3/4-ton is the dumbest concept I've heard let alone a tiny 3 liter that's geared for economy whilst the 6.4 and 6.7 units are geared for getting the job done.
@georgiafan6618
@georgiafan6618 5 жыл бұрын
The Ram's Diesel is made and designed in Italy? How did acceleration feel? Will you guys test the MPG?
@StoneysWorkshop
@StoneysWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
8:24 sounded like you said 8 track controls haha (i looked away for a moment so I didnt see context)
@randybryant9936
@randybryant9936 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of people nervous about buying an echo diesel from FCA
@robertrichardson9953
@robertrichardson9953 5 жыл бұрын
Not me.
@numbnutz9398
@numbnutz9398 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of people are nervous about buying anything from FCA
@detoxified-lofi
@detoxified-lofi 5 жыл бұрын
like that tail gate
@NerdyFamily
@NerdyFamily 5 жыл бұрын
Can u guys please tell ram to put the Cummins in the power wagon already. We r all waiting
@Josh47147
@Josh47147 5 жыл бұрын
Uh ram already stated it wasn't happening several trucks ago because they would have to delete the winch in favor of the turbo intercooler....
@NerdyFamily
@NerdyFamily 5 жыл бұрын
@@Josh47147 yeah I know that but now with Ford coming out with a truck to try to go head to head with the power wagon. They are going to have to go back and find a way to put that fucka in it.
@SwannBus
@SwannBus 5 жыл бұрын
The engine didn’t sound too great in the limited pulling the boat. The hallow rattles sounds make me cringe....
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