CAN WE FIX Our Broken Streaming PC?

[@DOPES4MAGA]

Greg has now come full circle by having a fix or flop of a PC he built. This here is a broken gaming PC.. the user writes, I was putting together a streaming PC and installed all the components, and went to turn it on and nothing happened. This here is that viewers PC...

[@TheUltimateRare]

to be fair, Greg surely watched some of his own videos or while editing so he *IS* a viewer!

[@bongodoug]

I see you are almost at 900k subs. I wish you only success, sir. Soon enough you will have a million subs.

[@GregSalazar]

I very much appreciate that!

[@madmartigan9720]

@@GregSalazar Word Greg ! Keep them coming. Nice channel

[@hozeyyy]

Its crazy cause i subbed years ago and didnt realize his sub count because his vids are made so good i get stuck in the video till the end lol

[@Shinigami-gk2mr]

@@GregSalazar deont groom minorts at 1mil subs btw,its becoming a trend with big youtubers getting exposed at 1mil

[@Sevunteen]

Im getting that case for my daughters 5950x x570 dark hero, and 3080 build, thanks for showing it to me Greg, I was having case selection anxiety, lol.

[@ScottGrammer]

I have used the same CPU and mobo for two years. Still kicking butt!

[@GregSalazar]

Sometimes I'll move my personal rig over to a new case just for the sheer enjoyment of it!

[@ScottGrammer]

@@GregSalazar Yep, that's a thing. It also gives you a great opportunity for cleaning everything!

[@caponecashfunds]

I have that same mobo and cpu combo and alot of those x570 dark hero boards are defective. Not sure if you already bought it but just a heads up! Mine has a power issue where if it goes into sleep mode the board loses power and wont turn on without power cycling the psu.

[@arezvani]

I totally agree with the sentiment of building a PC to your preferred esthetic. Although personally, I don't like the clash of wood, white fans, and black PCB and AIO, ultimately it's not my PC. It's still a great build and keep the great videos coming Greg!

[@techluvin7691]

Aesthetic………..but yes……I agree. The white against the wood grain is a major clash.

[@Mo-Thoughx]

I had to do this to my PC so that it would work for me. Now I just need to find a Windows that works well for me.

[@Melissalove44]

You can check BNH Software which is always a good option to start with.

[@Mo-Thoughx]

In order not to waste more time, I may start with that thank you.

[@halesworth01]

Greg, you can stream to KZbin or Facebook live, just set the stream to 'Private' if you don't want to be public (but testing the PC at a proper streaming scenario)

[@Adamgreen735]

Yeah i was gonna comment saying i thought twitch had that option to do a test stream... Unsure if thats still a thing...But i thought it used to be. I would imagine youtube has one also maybe....

[@Miniputt_999]

I thought it was the pressure on the socket from the aio, but nice to see it was only a bad bios. Looking forward to the next video :D

[@saxoferm]

FYI for anyone possibly having issues with bios flash...check motherboard version...i like gigabyte but i have noticed they have alot of versions of boards...i have an older x570 master 1.0 but also own a b550i pro 1.3 and a b650 elite 1.2....make sure youre downloading the right bios for the version...since you cant see a screen using bios flashback. The version is printed on the box near the sku...and its on the board too...but sometimes its hard to see it when components are installed.

[@SirDaffyD]

I have the B550 AORUS ELITE AX WIFI. The manual isn't clear if it's v1.0 or v1.1. Makes it a bit worrying when it comes too a bios update. I've saved my bios downloads, but when I compare them to what's on the Gigabyte website, they've changed them a bit, which makes it more confusing. I've used Gigabyte mb's for years, and like them, but this is annoying.

[@saxoferm]

@@SirDaffyD you can compare each revision sometimes they change the WiFi and Ethernet module..from maybe Intel to realtek..sometimes they can't find a certain chip and change something else....if you see what's different and then look at your drivers to see which you have. I use hwinfo64 and cpuZ...in cpuZ there's a board tab and it shows the bios version and maybe you could surmise which is your board.....measure twice and cut once kinda thing... Best of luck

[@SirDaffyD]

@@saxoferm. It's also in the BIOS itself. Just need to remember to go into the BIOS when I start up the pc. Most I remember after I've already logged into the pc, so it's a case of "It's working for now, I can't be bothered worrying about it." LOL.

[@johngangemi1361]

This

[@alexh.9550]

I’m almost done with your fix or flop series, it’s amazing, now I will watch all your pcdc series too, I was subscribed since you had 600k, your channel grew a lot, clear and awesome videos.

[@GregSalazar]

Wow! Thanks for the support! Much appreciated!

[@sirbiff10]

When it comes to PC builds...you do you. Looks fine to me.

[@Lonerprime]

I generally don't subscribe to channels. Mostly because I only like one or two videos out of a YTuber's whole range. Like the old song cassettes. Out of 10, mostly one is your favorite. This channel however, has me binge watching a lot of videos. Fix or flop especially is my favorite as I found I tend to learn a lot about varied PC troubleshooting. In short, thank you for your content Greg. It not be much, but for all that I have learned, have my sub as a form of gratitude. Continue on your awesome path.

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks for the kind words! +1 sub may not be "much" numerically, but it means SO much to me 😄

[@Jules_Diplopia]

Awesome Greg. So it was just that you were in a rush (sort of) to getout the door. It does show that PCs demand your time, but also the value of taking a deep breath, walking away and coming back with a fresh mind. Congrats, never had any doubt that you would solve this issue.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Glad to see the computer actually working now. I always feel like second guessing myself when using bios flashback so I tend to not use it to update bios unless absolutely necessary

[@drios007]

Two parts are good! Take your time. Keep making good content.

[@toufusoup]

Those BIOS flash buttons always give me anxiety, I remember screwing an MSI one up by renaming it one letter off-seeing things not work like the KZbin videos show always drops your stomach 😅 convenient, but clench-inducing! Also, not gonna use AV1 for the stream encoder?

[@GregSalazar]

Does Twitch now support AV1 direct streaming? A few months ago, that wasn't the case. It also still isn't an option within OBS. I know KZbin and a few others support it, but Twitch streaming is often the popular choice which is why its encoding options were discussed here :-)

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

Even if the update fails, you can typically always just re do it and fix it. If you have a bios flashback option

[@williambeckett8990]

As the Great Douglas Adams wrote, 'Don't Panic'. You did very well in your problem solving logic chain. As always, we were right there with you. 😃

[@Molasar54]

Hope your business trip went well. Great to have you back and in your element, fixing pc's. Love your videos and I have watched them all. Keep up the great work.

[@hisgen01]

My thoughts are with you and all people in Florida who will suffer the consequences of hurricane Milton. You and your family stay safe Greg. A warm heart from the Netherlands, a country that has been fighting a battle with water for centuries.

[@mbwatson1000]

I've not heard of phase sheets before, but I have just tried a Kryosheet on my latest PC build. Sadly, that didn't turn out well as a tiny piece of the electrically conductive sheet broke off and fell onto the CPU board - these sheets are so fragile! I had to dismantle the CPU assembly to carefully remove any such shard. Turning the computer on for the first time was doubly scary as a result. I am glad to say that all is well, having gone back to regular thermal paste. I am glad to see that phase sheets are non-conductive. I hope that makes them more usable for clumsy people like me!

[@j.rcoker9051]

I absolutely love the look and would be proud to own and show it off!! Great taste!!

[@DctrGizmo]

I'm glad it was a simple fix as a bios update. This build looks sick and this case has grown on me a lot.

[@kaseyboles30]

As someone who majored in both computer science and electrical engineering I can completely understand a comp sci major making that mistake, Just as I can understand an electrical engineer not immediately grasping why using just > instead of >= in a program can be big deal. Both fields are well connected, but not a huge overlap (outside asic design and the like). It's like complaining a materials science major doesn't know how to design a bridge.

[@lvc394]

So is this a new segment: "Fix My Flop" ????

[@stumpythedwarf8712]

Greg, if a video is too long, I won't watch it. I look at the time stamps, and if it says, for example, 39 minutes, it's a nope for me. Actually, this video at 22+ is pushing it. So, thank you for doing a part two.

[@evelingal7025]

Love your videos, you're so real for showing the mistakes and not hiding anything from the viewers. Road to 1mil subs

[@GregSalazar]

I appreciate that!

[@exxor9108]

lol At this point, when it comes to people choosing one CPU brand over the other, all I say is... what's your favorite color? What do you plan on doing with your computer? Are you just gaming? Are you doing productivity stuff? What's your budget? All simple questions that can be answered instead of just being on a high horse for your favorite brands.

[@gregfisher216]

Great work Greg ,a lot of tech here ! way over my head ! This an example of how much knowledge and expertise you have !!!

[@jakesnow96]

Make sure that the partition table is set to MBR. On my Z690-A I had the issue were the bios wouldn’t update properly. Also, the memory OC wasn’t stable. It wouldn’t update the ME version until I changed it to MBR.

[@mutasimrahman6833]

Generally speaking, I try to update to BIOS versions that are less than a year old, as if you try to update to versions that are "too new", you can run into issues like this. I've even killed a motherboard myself. I wish motherboard manufacturers would preach this.

[@fvdeddrift]

The black n' white, or "tuxedo" rig is a super James Bondy type system! Thing looks sick! White fans and white tube sleeves for the AiO next!

[@JackONiel87]

I love these videos, Greg! Keep up the good work 😁

[@2050kristof]

Stay safe in the storm that is headed your way, I was just listening about it.

[@baskhd336]

I have that exact same case and an Arctic LFIII too! I love them both

[@Xironium]

In the OBS settings, if you connect your twitch account, there's a "enable bandwidth test mode" option. If you turn that on you can do a "test stream". Then open op twitch inspector (should be first result when using google) and log in with your twitch, you can see bandwidth stability. This effectively simulates streaming without actually being live. In addition, i found P6 preset with 2 passes (on multipass mode) to give me the highest quality results. To extra stress the system, turn on replay buffer with a 1 minute replay. That way it keeps recording while doing the test, giving the best/worst case scenario.

[@GregSalazar]

Will keep this in mind for future tests! Thanks!

[@BowsettesFury]

lol just had the chance to watch. I hope I’m wrong about the mobo being basically bricked. And it’s the socket and not a case grounding issue either. Let’s see. 4:19

[@BowsettesFury]

Thankfully it wasn’t bricked. Never had to update that far into revisions before.

[@Leppux]

So, funny story. I had a 5600X inside a B450 and 2x8gb of ram. These 3 components decided stop working, bouncing between CPU and RAM debug-leds. They wouldn't work with other known working RAM sticks. A month or so later, the PC decided to work with same said ram, in same said configuration after swapping it around from single to dual. No idea what happened, cause it works fine now. But didn't before..? Any thoughts?

[@turtlefrog369]

just age old AMD memory controller funny stuff.

[@Leppux]

@@turtlefrog369 prob 😂

[@Artafact106]

Just a guess, maybe a dead motherboard memory channel? But you said that everything worked fine; that's strange. Could be an issue with the BIOS revision too.

[@Leppux]

@@Artafact106 Problem being, it has worked without an issue for 1½ years. Nothing was changed or updated. Even when it now works, nothing has been changed. :|

[@Carne-t2q]

thank you Greg Nice work you teach very well

[@glennblum6410]

Thank you for your videos. Entertaining and educating.

[@jamesbrassfield8409]

This is going to be epic and very educational too

[@rynosraceroom66]

The trolls are very annoying but ignore them. You did a great job , looks awesome ! Thanks for the update 🏁

[@TheXeroLink]

Just had another wild one. System would post and load into windows but games were 17-20fps and desktop was laggy. Turned out to be a bad stick of RAM… Put in 1 stick and it posted and gets 170-200fps now in furmark….put sticks in 1 at a time until I found the one that was the trouble maker Wouldn’t have known what to do if I hadn’t been learning with you for fix or flop and other stuff! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.

[@justagameplayingcomputeruser]

I am so glad your machine was not bricked.

[@tjp4342]

Have the same Dyson vacuum cleaner you have. They're great for a quick clean.

[@chancelor]

Been watching you for years! Love the videos

[@GregSalazar]

I appreciate that!

[@evankalbach9985]

I was ALWAYS taught that when troubleshooting an odd issue like this that start making it simpler. ie: start removing things until you get to the point that you are pretty much left with the board and power.

[@richhoeffer5245]

He Fixed the Flop...awesome

[@ThePrincemgomez]

Good Gigabyte mobo troubleshooting, I did something similar with a B550 model. Thanks Greg!🎉

[@MrAndyTsa]

There is also an nuances to flashing Gigabyte motherboards: some of their boards can have different revisions, e.g. Gigabyte B760M Aorus Elite AX has v1.0, v1.2, and v1.3, and they can be using different or same bios files, and there are no way of telling those revisions apart except actually boot into the BIOS and check info there, so if you don't have extra CPUs lying around (most of us don't), the only way is to try all of them and find one that works.

[@bertgo305]

This video is long but very informative and very precise in explaining all the technical difficulty in PC trouble shooting. There's always morons and nit picking people online Greg specially your chanel is growing. I'm very happy tagging along for this ride to 1m subs 🤩👍

[@rokasdra]

Love your vids, Greg. Regards from lithuania ❤

[@The_Necrogeddon]

I was given a job from a friend to upgrade his B350 mobo with a new cpu as the one he had was a first gen ryzen. We got a 5700X which upon installation wouldn't post. I put back the old one and checked the bios which was never updated. Gigabyte had like 15 bios that had to be installed and 2 of them were like this one in the video (install that first and the you can do the rest). I followed patiently every step and all was working fine.

[@Adamgreen735]

Our beady eyes catch the things most others dont sir Gregalot.... Never underestimate the fingertips of death that are pressing shift+fullstop and comma back and forth for that frame by frame execution, slowing it all the way down so we see eye brow hairs in the socket and everything.... We never EVER miss a beat sir Gregalot... Ha ha ha!!! GG brother...

[@Nerioabreu]

Hello Greg! Thank you so much for these type of videos! We learn a lot every day. I hope that you and your family are safe and protected! God Bless you all.

[@PaulLemars01]

Glad to hear it was the BIOS Greg. I hate updating the BIOS on the machines I'm responsible for. Something always goes wrong. My latest was my son's machine which has 128GB of memory in it. He uses it for music production so it's not so much the speed as having that huge bucket of memory. The CPU is a 13700K and the memory is G Skill Ripjaw 3600 which supposedly came in a matched set. Needless to say, with the latest BIOS update I had to downclock the memory to 3200 to keep it stable. At every setting from 3600 down to 3200 the system would either lock up full black screen all the way to Windows booting and an hour later it would BSOD. It took me a day and a half to make sure the system was totally stable and I could hand it off to him. Context: the motherboard is an MSI Z790 Pro DDR4. CPU is set to stock speed. I'm using DDR4 because at the time of the build no board manufacturer would guarantee that their board would handle 128GB of DDR5, and finally I'm not a boss level memory tuner. His machine is set up for maximum reliability since it has to work for a living and if we leave 10 to 15% of performance on the table for the sake of reliability we're cool with that. This machine has never had a game installed on it.

[@sporadicentertainment9253]

That Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 is one good AIO esp. with AM4 and the offset brackets you gave that board with what you did to it no way man wouldn’t be having it.

[@johnstancliff7328]

this is one reason why I stay with MSI! I've never had any bios issues with MSI. I had this same problem when I bought an AS-IS board from Ebay, but it had the Bios Flashback option and still it didn't help... turned out to be a bad AM4 socket.... rare, but it does happen.... up until the AM4 Platform, I never had any issues with the previous platforms and bois problems. it scares me to want to step up to AM5...

[@Crypturr]

keep up the good work Greg! 💪💪💪

[@MasterAlexS]

You have 3 options: NVENC (dGPU) Quick Sync (iGPU) x265 (CPU) For some of my friends using the iGPU for obs was the best option for some odd reason (10 series GTX)

[@MrRayr1953]

Great job Greg.

[@Boba_Fett1980]

Haha a simple bios issue. I've encountered those a few times. I like how the build looks it's very clean. Absolutely awesome case, I just got the c8 non wood black variant and it's such a pleasure to build in. Edit: been subbed to you for 5 years now, you inspired me to build my first PC earlier this year coming from my hp pre built and it went so well :D love your videos man I always watch to the end.

[@IanTheCat]

Always fun learning with you! Ok

[@williamjones4483]

I've got a mobo just about like this one (Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI) that in my clumsiness managed to get a sizable quantity of thermal paste in the pins. Tried cleaning with 91% IPA and a cotton bud. No joy. Someone else suggested I use electronic contact cleaner. I happened to have CRC QD contact cleaner. Sprayed the socket with that and all of the paste just washed away. I'm now using that board again with no issues.

[@kevincoones4368]

Hi Greg Im glad that happened. As i am building a pc myself.

[@requiem5179]

If you're BIOS is up to date and it powers on for a moment using the BIOS button on the board. Pull the GPU and try again. It it POSTs without a GPU then you don't have enough juice for the GPU. I ran into that with a 3000 series Nvidia and 12900K. Upgraded to 1000W and no more issues.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

Remember to get that latest bios back on for the stability issues!

[@SoMiSongbird]

I actually like the white fans with the white cables, it goes well with the wood accent

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

I leaned towards the 4070Ti Super as from the Ti and up have a dual encoder - one can handle streaming and the other can handle the game load.

[@kgonepostl]

Nice new haircut my man. Looking slick.

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks! I did it myself.

[@razna23]

hi, i have the same mobo and i just flash my bios manually inside the bios. I dont need to change name or anyting and is easy. I never used the button that is on the mobo to do the update. The advantage is that u have a video signal and u can see the progress of the update.

[@Hadisabetghadam]

That Motherboard tortured By Thermal Paste Doing Greg Science😂😂❤❤

[@BrisyTechBytes]

Thanks for sharing this Greg, just about to press the button on ordering a new Aorus X870 motherboard, although it should come with the latest bios installed this video will certainly help with any issues with future bios installs. Enjoy the rest of your weekend bud 👍

[@rachitbedi9506]

Love from india🥰 started my own pc building business after watching your videos. Thankyou for getting me addicted to pc hardware ❤️

[@samuelrave]

Another video I enjoy! Glad I was wrong and that there is nothing wrong with the socket! 💯💝

[@fallenphoenixfilms]

I'll click on a million Greg videos idgaf. Hope your trip was fun!

[@SidDTheSimschannel]

I really like Gigabyte some motherboards have the duel flash back bios, the first restart is it copying the original bios into the backup in case of a failure the last bios would be loaded when you hit the flashback button, the second one is the one that loads the bios into memory, the 3rd one is when it restarts to write it on to the chip, than it posts. When I started building computers they wanted you to pay attention to jumpers and would set the jumper to the kill switch to make sure you actually set what cpu speed and bus the cpu had, because with the original Intel 4 boards they could support a huge range of Intel 4 processors with different speeds and bus and power ranges so it was important to set the bus speed to match the CPU as closely as possible.

[@Inevitablehugs]

I'm totally jealous of the graded Yu-gi-oh god cards in the background!! :')

[@dandersson4819]

I like your tech channel a fan from Sweden

[@CoreyPL]

To all the problems that starts with "premature" that plague men all over the world, now you have to add another one: premature disconnection.

[@thedeadcannotdie]

Updatus interruptus

[@ragreen2]

I wish I had responded to the previous video. When you described the symptoms my first reaction was 'sounds like a possible bios problem, I'd flash a good stable version' ... Oh well, maybe next time

[@Marcel1984nl]

Hi Greg, the BIOS update problem could easily be the alcohol you used on your cpu socket. Yes the system posts but later it doesn't and that is due to a change in the BIOS chip, my theory is that the BIOS was written to the chip incorrectly or at least with errors due to a very slight short circuit resulting in no post and possible data corruption by turning on the system. I had the same problem with my Gigabyte B550M board when I used alcohol on the socket, i let it fully dry but it didn't do anything anymore and eventually I managed to use Q-flash and that went well every time but it didn't boot. A few days later I used Q-flash again with the same flash file and the system booted. Hopefully this is of some use to you, those boards are so sensitive and alcohol is not 100% non-conductive and leaves small traces. p.s. don't see this as an attack on your theory because I believe your theory too :) The white fans are oké it gives some perspective to the build.

[@michaelthompson9798]

As pc gamers we shouldn’t be criticising fellow gamers …….. we should be supporting each other and be shoot knowing a fellow pc gamer is loving their rig and does what is needs to 🥰💪😇👍

[@flightsimdev9021]

I like to use diamond thermal paste, it's the best you can buy and the best thermal conductivity.

[@maxtornogood]

That moment when Greg has to do a Fix or Flop episode on his own build! 😝

[@cyberwaste]

The only time I've had the machine just do nothing at all was when the CPU was dead. It'd track that flashback would still work without a CPU installed/working because, especially for AMD, the CPU needs an update to be recognised and work, so flashback needs to work without one. So, if the flashback button is doing something, the first thing you should do is reflash using it.

[@jerrylong1079]

I like the black/white color scheme.

[@claptrap673]

4:13 benefits of crowd sourcing

[@ralphandmike]

greg msi has a similar feature the bios that is flashed usually turns the unit off for about a second after its done and then it turns back on. after it turns back on your right about the picture part you mentioned in this video as ive experienced that as well i just power cycled and it was up and running after

[@josephnorris4095]

Your content is most definitely entertaining and informative, although I personal have no interest in personal computing or building machines, anymore. However, I am an IT professional and enjoy that very much, I just want to do other things on my personal time.

[@7MBoosted]

Why not test quicksync as well, curious to know if there is even less overhead when encoding with the igpu.

[@RenatoG1848]

Computer expert bricks his own computer, proud of you Greg

[@GregSalazar]

I will probably _never_ refer to myself as an expert. The more I think I know, the more I realize I DON'T know 😅

[@cesarand02]

You’re able to use H.264 or AVX encoding with modern Radeon cards that are good when compared to older NVENC encoders. Modern NVENC is insane and very hard to beat, but if you have a Radeon card it’s still more than capable of handling encoding and streaming.

[@outlet6989]

Hi Greg, you need to add a caption at the beginning of your videos. I suggest, "Yes! My power strip is on and plugged into a wall outlet."

[@duffmanmark]

There is always something new to learn and it doesn't matter what the haters think just keep doing what makes you happy

[@Syping]

The 12900K have the option to use QSV, it just need to enabled in BIOS. It's a good alternative to NVENC, especially when the GPU is power limited while gaming.

[@GTArajgaming]

I planned out my rig to have extra headroom for content creation/streaming. unfortunately my oversight was my gpu (bought on release day for MSRP thankfully) , I use nvidia broadcast to remove my background and it's pretty cuda heavy and hits my rtx 3070 like a truck. I can safely say that going to 10mbps isn't terrible and is a pretty decent rate for streaming on youtube, bypassing a lot of compression

[@jvcx23x36]

Greg, just add one more white fan as rear exhaust and that will tie it together. I think it looks good.

[@ZoneXV]

Just curious Greg, I see you are using Pure Wings 3 for this build. If I am getting 3 140mm for the front of my case, do you find the Silent Wings 4 to be worth the upgrade over the Pure Wings?

[@wayneseymour1]

Greg did you use Windows11 23H2? or windows1022H2? for downloading the BIOS and for the new install on the rig?

[@recyclebin]

Ruh-roh, the build got PEBCAK'd.

[@lakephillip]

A very interesting thing happened to me on my ASRock B760M Riptide Wi-fi. After my new HTPC posted and installed windows went to update BIOS, and kept on getting error. I was using a USB 3.1 SanDisk drive. I decided to try a USB 2 .0 drive, and voila, works every time now, and there have been 3 revisions since April 2024.