The Slow Death of The Chronicles of Narnia Franchise

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Disney placed a huge bet on CS Lewis with 2005's The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe and it really paid off...until it didn't. In this video, I go over the franchise, including Prince Caspian and The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, to get to the heart of what went wrong with these movies.
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[@captainmidnight]

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[@joshshak]

Love ur vids man

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Yes

[@Flome810]

Not really but make more avatar videos

[@Letsgochamp-kh4wm]

I do 😔

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Uh... not really. I enjoyed the first one, loved the soundtrack and the actors but no.

[@Guigley]

Tilda Swinton was such a great piece of casting as the Witch. She is genuinely intimidating.

[@rotemg7330]

unfortunately, Tilda Swinton's awesome performance was the only good thing in this movie. as a devoted fan of the Narnia books, i was so disappointed by the first movie (didn't even see the rest): the writing was awful, most of the text and dialogues from the original book were dropped, replaced by dramatic music and bad acting, so the rationale behind the behavior of the characters is totally flattened. the invented stuff, like the opening scene, was completely redundant. unlike the Lord Of The Ring books, and the harry Potter books, the Narnia books were actually short enough to make a medium-length movie for each one without having to lose anything from the original story. but they chose to do it anyway, adding stuff that contributed nothing to the story, while removing stuff that could have. and why did they replace Jaddis's black hair with blonde rasta? that was also annoying. lucky Tilda saved the character. and lucky they kept the "despair and die" speech from the original book (i cried when i first read this scene as a child). but it was no surprise that the series was so weak. they wrote it neither-here-nor-there.

[@Zero8880]

I like to imagine Tilda Swinton's "Witch" being similar to what Cate Blanchett's "Galadriel", had she taken the ring from Frodo.

[@gsimon123]

The other movies were lacking without her as such a great villain.

[@gv5884]

Exactly. Tilda Swinton isn't the type of woman I would particularly call pretty, but she's so beautiful as the White Witch, in a intimidating and inhuman way.

[@Guigley]

@@Zero8880 That's an interesting thought. I can totally imagine it.

[@crimson_sky]

The people aren’t the main characters of Narnia, Narnia is the main Character

[@nassifguiling4922]

Yup but that wouldn't translate well onto screen. Casuals would obviously get attached at the Pevensie children, knew a lot of people that didn't watch the 3rd since Peter and Susan were out of it

[@mat5473]

@@nassifguiling4922 It could have worked on screen if they had approached it from that direction from the start with a visionary director/franchise runner who knew he was telling the story of Narnia. Had they done it right, and emphasized the "Anthology" style nature of Chronicles of Narnia, then it could have worked IMO.

[@Elethyl]

@@nassifguiling4922 Actually, this is wrong. They could make it like Black Mirror, no episodes are connected to one another, yet it gives you the feeling that it is black mirror. This is how it is supposed to be about Narnia, I think.

[@CrossRoadsOfTime]

@@mat5473 I think your right there, plus had they kept the focus on the real main characters instead of trying to keep the same set from last time as the main characters it would of worked a lot better.

[@MaskedMan66]

According to Lewis, children are the heroes of Narnia. Which was why Caspian was so horrendously miscast.

[@kurisari1937]

The first Narnia movie was too “complete” for me personally. An amazing stand-alone film, great story and actors and cinematography. I never read the books- don’t stone me- so as a child, I could only ever see the film as one whole tale. Had you told me there are more novels, I wouldn’t have expected it.

[@sackthebastard]

Well that’s what the guy in the video says and part of the reason the series failed. The books all feel like complete stories rather than a continuous series.

[@MankindFails]

It tried, I really did... but I'll have to stone you, sorry.

[@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS]

@@sackthebastard i actually disagree slightly- the FIRST book felt like an absolutely perfect genius standalone story about not letting suave adults bamboozle you with flattery before fucking you up with sexist narcissistic egotistical bullshit that they'll use to trespass your boundaries. the entire rest of the series felt like some very conflated linked story about kids being really euphoric about killing nonhumans and being "wholesome" kings and queens and honor and war, interwoven with stories that felt like some kind of historical metaphor that was too boring for me to sit through. I feel like they really should have made a movie about the FIRST book and not the second. It gave such an odd air of nonclosure- a story that you dont get to see the beginning of, and dont get to see the ending of, with this unconscious understanding that the full story is locked behind a huge library of tedium. You dont want to start at the first book because then youll be doing it out of order, but you dont want to just continue off from the middle because it feels wrong.

[@beelzemobabbity]

I was kind of surprised when I decided to read the books in school. Because it had so much more when i thought the story ended with the movie lol

[@S.h-comma.to.the.top-Dynasty]

*ignores request. picks up stone

[@rugger347]

I think it worth mentioning that Disney also messed up badly with the Percy Jackson series. Which to me had the ability to be Harry Potter-esque as the source material did center around the same characters, was a more modern fantasy story, etc . Live-action fantasy just doesn’t seem to be what Disney is good at.

[@joeyjerry1586]

What does Disney have to do with the Percy Jackson movies? 20th Century Fox was the studio that made those movies

[@Oturan20]

@@joeyjerry1586 They own the company that published the books.

[@MontySlython]

to be fair percy jackson wasnt that great a book series anyway, but it definitely had far more heart and character than the movies portrayed

[@diegoxavier9107]

@@MontySlython Percy Jackson was charming and funny. Though it was clearly inspired by Harry Potter, it had a very unique sense of humor and taught kids mythology in a cool, easy-to-access way. In terms of story and character, yeah, it wasn't anything special. A lot of repetitive hashes of the same conflicts. As the books progressed (and as entirely new series were published), you could tell Riordan didn't know how to write much beyond cut-and-dry adolescent melodrama

[@MontySlython]

@@diegoxavier9107 yup, the writing still had far more personality and uniqueness than the movies tri3d to show

[@NateMulder]

Re: Narnia being shot in NZ, it's worth noting it wasn't just to copy Peter Jackson, Andrew Adamson is also a kiwi, so he was shooting in his home country too.

[@joaomarcos2089]

@@bullymaguire9987 give him rent

[@philipvalenti6464]

This is free country not rent free county

[@tropicalcatdetective]

Filming in New Zealand also meant that Weta Workshop was available to the production for all their set building, costuming, amour and weaponry which they had become proficient in creating after Lord of the Rings.

[@candasmith]

I'm a banana, I filmed in New Guinea.

[@EternalDensity]

But Peter Jackson was born there first.

[@chadhill8776]

They didn’t need a “reboot.” They needed commitment! They needed vision! They needed passion for the source material - instead of trying to rework it to fit their own foolish suppositions (like bringing Peter and Susan into the third story that didn’t even involve them!!!) . . . But they didn’t have any of that. *They* failed the audience. It was a foreshadowing of the demise of virtually every franchise out there!

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Totally agreed! If you slap a franchise name onto a project, that project better stick to the franchise. If you are going to write a new story or make major changes to the existing story, then just give it a new name. My family and I didn't go to the Narnia movies to see a PG LOTR, or a Harry Potter alternative. We went to see NARNIA on the big screen! For example, our passion kind of faltered with the Susan-Prince Caspian thing...especially when considering Susan's perspective on romance that is mentioned in "The Horse and his Boy."

[@dominiquenotyourbusiness5836]

The problem is these books as a series don't really translate that well onto movie. Especially the more meditative, narrative ones which are way less conflict and character driven. I know that everyone loves to talk about the christian allegories but apart from that Narnia's main hero... is Narnia itself. The land is the main hero. And that's something that is extremely tough to show on film, especially spanning over at least 7 movies

[@subjectnivleis7572]

Still makes me sad we never saw a magicians nephew movie

[@AChungusAmongUs]

@@dinorocks4887 LOTR started out incredible but it seemed like Jackson got a little more drunk on success with each movie. Each one strayed a little further from the source material and indulged more and more in over-the-top glamor shots and action scenes, corny humor and scenes or entire side plots that had no basis in the books. The Hobbit was my favorite Tolkien book, but I couldn't help but feel disappointed in the latter trilogy.

[@encycl07pedia-]

@@dinorocks4887 LOTR was good. The Hobbit films (first one, anyway) were not, if only for the fact that they split a book thinner than every LOTR book into 3 parts. Super greedy, super sketchy. I saw the first Hobbit movie and none of the rest. Fool me once, shame on you. The Hobbit Part 1 doesn't resolve the plot and uses a ton of filler. You can get away with that kind of stuff in a book, not in a movie. Even the LOTR movies, while being part of a larger narrative, had better self-containment.

[@joanofarcwannabe]

The first movie, in my opinion, is one of the best disney movies ever

[@MaskedMan66]

That doesn't say much for Disney movies.

[@yusufgazi7]

Aladdin (original) is

[@hannahrosereviews5073]

Oh same!

[@soseikiharagatatsu7859]

There's something about the first Narnia movie that we can't help but love it because we enjoy it as a kid

[@MaskedMan66]

@@soseikiharagatatsu7859 I was an adult when I first saw it, and I couldn't stand it. I also think a child who had read the book would be watching the movie and thinking, "What the heck is this crud here?"

[@afarensis9720]

I'm so sad that The Silver Chair never got a chance to take off. It was defs one of my favourites from the series, the Lady of the Green Kirtle was such an interesting villain with a lot of potential, and there was some amazing worldbuilding throughout the book. We got to see the rougher, more dangerous parts of Narnia, with the human-eating giants in the North, and the giant underground city. Plus it wrapped up Caspian's story in a great (albeit sad) way. If they were thinking of rebooting the franchise, another great place to start would be the Magician's Nephew. It's another great story with a lot of potential, not to mention bringing back the iconic Jadis as the villain

[@MaskedMan66]

Did you see the T.V. version of SC? It was very well done and featured Tom Baker, the fourth Doctor Who, as Puddleglum.

[@Valihir]

There's a theory that the lady of the green kirtle is also jades In the bbc versions they are played by the same actress thought that dosnt necessarily mean much

[@MaskedMan66]

@@Valihir Jadis was killed by Aslan. He doesn't leave jobs unfinished. ;-) And yes, Barbara Kellerman played the White Witch, the Hag, and the Queen of Underland in the BBC TV miniseries. An economical move, no doubt (the same actor, Martin Stone, played both Maugrim and the Werewolf, and Big Mick played both the White Witch's driver and Trumpkin), but I think she was miscast as the latter. The Lady of the Green Kirtle seemed to me when reading the book to be a young, sweet-faced girl who barely seemed out of her teens and with a soft, melodious voice.

[@RachelASmith697]

I think The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe would have been a good stand-alone movie.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

Here's how I think they could have done it: 1. Make the Magicians Nephew, and use the Professor to tie in and lead into the next movie in the series. 2. Make the Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe as before. 3. Make the Horse and His Boy, but advertise it as a spinoff from when the Kids were in Narnia. 4. Prince Caspian, but have the kids serve as mentor characters to Caspian when they meet him, and let the more human conflict focus on Caspian dealing with the tyranny his people were committing, the bloodshed in the war, and how this makes him grow from a naive kid to someone who intends to be a good king to all Narnians. 5. Make the Voyage of the Dawn Treader...But as a mini-series, not a standalone movie. This would accommodate the more episodic nature and allow the characters to grow more. 6. Silver Chair: Again, mini-series, since this one is also kind of episodic. 7. Last Battle: make it a movie. Throughout it all, leave hints that lead into the finale, with bits in the THAHB hinting that Tash is real, or that there's some power beyond just the White Witch with all the evil in the world. Make Calorman feel like a real empire that poses a constant threat to the people of Narnia throughout all the parts of this series, and to how everything will come to an end with the falling stars, father time, and all the rest.

[@RachelASmith697]

@@morgant.dulaman8733 Hmm, I never thought of that before.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

@@RachelASmith697 Being somewhat insane helps me think outside the box. On a more serious note, I wonder how many movies would have been better received if they were presented via a different medium, and the process that goes into deciding what medium should be used to tell a story.

[@safi135]

@@morgant.dulaman8733 disney shouldve hired you 21 years ago

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

@@safi135 Considering I was a toddler around that time, I don't know if I could have been the best advisor.

[@crowbar_the_rogue]

The chronicles of Narnia isn't a franchise, they're, well, chronicles.

[@abishaipaul2298]

Someone understands

[@bemotivated8443]

A man of culture

[@thiccspidey2127]

YES

[@rubenzavala2084]

Thank u

[@caramelcandys]

Wizdum

[@heyyou9267]

The one thing that dawn tredder got right was the casting of Eustace. He's exactly what I pictured when reading the book

[@melisaavila2780]

Saaaaame

[@calvinsbeard7423]

"There was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it."

[@zachanikwano]

For real! First time I ever saw an actor and was like, “He’s perfection.”

[@hunterolaughlin]

Calvin's Beard Lol. Eustace was the earliest Scrappy before Scrappy-Doo even existed. Although, Eustace did change when he turned into a dragon and became more tolerable and likable in his debut book and the next 2 books after. So he wasn’t entirely a Scrappy.

[@JayTohab]

YES

[@arizonaphied5427]

I fully recognize that it's not actually that great but Prince Caspian is still one of my favorite movies of all time. It's so nostalgic for me to watch and I had a devastating crush on Ben Barnes and still do 🤣

[@jennifern2403]

I used to have a crush on Ben Barnes when i saw him as Prince Caspian, also i agree the sequel ain’t great & doesn’t hold a candle to its predecessor but it’s nostalgia more than anything because it’s the 2nd movie i ever saw in the theatre as a child.

[@saida7320]

THIS! he was the first movie character i remember PROPERLY crushing on and i’ve never forgotten him since. both the first and second narnia films are extremely nostalgic for me; the third, not so much. i loved eustace, but i remember desperately wanting to watch dawn treader in cinemas and never getting the chance to see it until it came out on dvd- it just didn’t live up to my expectations.

[@RTU130]

Hmm

[@wispy3171]

Oh you should see Dorian gray lol

[@99Plastics]

Would rather shit out a razor blade and wipe with hot sauce than ever watch that movie again.

[@Chidsuey]

"How can we make this just like all the others" is the death of every adaptation.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

As an up-and-coming creator, I always worry whenever I notice unintentional similarities in my stories and characters to others that have been done before, and that I might be accused of intentionally stealing from those other stories. I'm always trying to work out how I can make my works different from those before.

[@Chidsuey]

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster There is a saying that "Good creators borrow. Great creators steal". Tolkien was heavily influenced by English Folklore. Martin by the War of the Roses. Remember your intentions are noble, so don't let yourself get bogged down in avoiding copying someone else. It's basically impossible to completely reinvent the wheel. Good luck to you. 😁

[@LeonAvalos]

* cough * The Hobbit trilogy we're looking at you * cough *

[@carso1500]

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster everything has already been invented, the only thing left is your own spin, your own personal touch that no one can reproduce

[@MaskedMan66]

@@LeonAvalos Do people still do that silly cough shtick? Just come right out and say what you mean to say.

[@loganhurley5590]

On a very tangent note, the "Edmund as Judas" analysis of the tLWatW's allegory always has irritated me. Edmund isn't Judas, he gets redeemed. Edmund is CS Lewis and every sinning human who needs their betrayal covered over by another.

[@axezero1753]

so he's more Simon Peter, then Judas.

[@elizabethashley42]

@@axezero1753 No, he's representative of humanity as a whole, not someone who was a close friend of Jesus and then denied him

[@GiulianaBruna]

Aslan sacrifices himself to save Edmunds. Jesus sacrifices himself for humanity.

[@jeremyheartriter2.063]

I always assumed he repressented Judas. I think people have their own opinion.

[@longforgotten4823]

Remember that betrayal is a type of sin in mid evil thinking. It is just one type of sin which is why Edmond being the representation of all of humanity is a much better representation. The candy consumption is a symbol of a type of passion, giving the white witch the location of Aslan is a symbol of a deeper sinful action which is giving up creation itself, redemption on the table is for not just humanity but the world becoming right again. A lot of folks not knowing these medieval distinctions will simply see the betrayal of Judas storyline. But that is why Edmond is the every man.

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

They should reboot with “The Magician’s Nephew” or “The Horse and his boy” would work fine. Have “the silver chair” be the weird 3rd one and then get the original kids back for the finale

[@juliane5632]

Would glad to but some of the cast like skandar keynes stopped after like 2010. So might as well find a bigger shot casts that has personality somehow

[@raphl8026]

Horse and his boy would be Amazing

[@madelinevance8954]

The Horse and his Boy was my favorite book I think, just because it is so vastly different from the other books. But I think The Magician’s Nephew would translate pretty decently to screen.

[@Boogiewalker]

I love A Horse and His Boy... But let's be honest: that's one movie that no studio is going to touch with a two-hundred-foot pole in this current woke climate. Seriously, any depiction of Calormen and/or the Calormenes that's true to the book will have the accusations of both Islamophobia and cultural appropriation (and most likely racism too because it's the current year) flying at the studio's executives and creatives. It's such a bummer because it's such a good story. The Last Battle also would be epic, but also not made due to wokeness wrong-think. The Silver Chair really is kind of a head-scratcher though. Tough book to adapt. Why didn't they do The Magician's Nephew instead?

[@OpinionatedChicken59]

The silver chair is the best book by far

[@justcody4615]

How many Edmunds read Edmund's story, and came away from it never wanting to be an Edmund? One of the best character arcs in children's fiction.

[@JumpdeArt]

Much agreed!

[@AJC508]

There days, vanishing numbers. Nobody reads, nor spells correctly anymore. The number of books I read as a teen is probably 10x what my children have.

[@JumpdeArt]

@@AJC508 I wouldn’t be that discouraged. Books aren’t going anywhere, even if kids digest more media through the internet nowadays

[@timesnewlogan2032]

@@AJC508 "Nobody reads, nor spells correctly anymore." Might wanna check the first word in your comment, buddy.

[@MSgt_0699]

Imagine how the Karens feel.

[@HordrissTheConfuser]

The duel between High King Peter and King Miraz is amazing. I love how it starts off energetic and flashy, and gets progressively dirtier and more desperate. They also used clever camera movement to increase the violence without actually showing it onscreen.

[@yellhaha8993]

I agree, its probably my favorite sword fight in a movie. Slick but gritty fighting.

[@ominouspigeonmaster1571]

Also agree, that fight always stood out to me.

[@Destroyer120296]

@@yellhaha8993 Yeah i was suprised upon rewatch how "realistic" and gritty it was. No real dumb flashy moves. Kinda realistic sword motions. They stay at a distance and only move in to strike then quickly back out and dont really "clang" a lot. THey both clearly know getting hit by a sword hurts.

[@GgCashh451]

I’m surprised it didn’t get PG-13 I wish I was rated R it would’ve made it a lot better in my opinion

[@A.G.O.M.]

The only thing about that fight that didn’t seem right was that one slow motion shot. Like why did that need to happen.

[@DeadRebornKid]

Being a kid named Edmund, Narnia gave me so much clout on the playground🥶

[@MaskedMan66]

Did they call you Edmund the Just?

[@danielcasallas4267]

did you betray your family?

[@MaskedMan66]

@@danielcasallas4267 I think he's talking about the reformed Edmund.

[@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956]

Dude where tf are you from that your just named that

[@DeadRebornKid]

​@@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 Uhhh the United States lmfao. I was named after a relative who was given the name because it sounded regal lol.

[@admthrawnuru]

They really should just make a stand alone Horse and His Boy. That story lends itself to a movie adaptation easily.

[@dracul6259]

While I love the book, I think the movie released today would have a lot more criticism directed towards it for its religious depictions if you know what I mean 😅

[@CrazyLikeUhFox]

@@dracul6259 what was that book about again? God I read CoN like fifteen years ago and it all bleeds together in my head.

[@gabrielonibudo5710]

@@CrazyLikeUhFox yeah same, I know I loved it but I can’t remember what it was about

[@bemotivated8443]

It’s been a while since I read it but I believe it is about a kidnapped Prince Who meets a talking horse and helps prevent war between Narnia and one of their neighboring countries, The book I Believe Takes it takes place during the lion the witch and the wardrobe in the main cast is grown-up but before they leave

[@SM_757]

@bemotivated more like a lost prince who finds a narnian horse and sets out for narnia

[@user-en1vp2gs8v]

I swear the entire cast was perfect... kind of a bummer having to see Narnia end this way.

[@ambergathings7160]

As a child, (5) I thought Lucy was going to marry Mr. Tumnus, come to find the second movie he dead. Now that I'm older I have NO idea why I thought this.

[@MistbornPrincess]

They were! It’s not over yet...just their time in Narnia.

[@eileensnow6153]

The Last Battle was my all-time favorite book, now I’ll never get to see it come to life 😭

[@eileensnow6153]

@@ambergathings7160 to be fair, if it was an adult human instead of a faun, that whole dynamic would seem extremely predatory

[@autographedcat]

This is the second time an attempt to adapt the Narnia series kinda sputtered out. (The earlier one was a made-for-TV series made by the BBC in the 1980s.) Part of the problem, I think, is that when you think of Narnia, you think of the Pevensie children, and all four of them are only in the first two books, two are in the third, and then they're pretty much gone until three of them show up towards the end of the last one.. Movie executives don't seem to know what to do once the cast of kids they built the marketing around are all gone.

[@bruhdon4748]

The first movie is honestly extremely solid & the CGi is incredible especially for the day.

[@mnorth1351]

Honestly, I haven't seen CGI get noticebly better since that time. I mean, there are new possibilities, with more motion capture characters, but as far as the types of CGI shots they did back then, I don't see that those types of shots have gotten any better in the intervening decade and a half.

[@josue_mejia]

It's specially incredible considering it's uses. Aslan is not a normal Lion. He is Narnian, therefore bigger, more... human-like, and, he is god-like, so him being unreal-ish gives him a quirk. The same can be said for the animals. They are not normal animals, they talk, they use things, they walk on two legs when just sautering by, they don't have to look real, because we don't know what real is in Narnia.

[@mistermoo7602]

I loved the first movie as a kid, but it is nearly unwatchable as an adult. Not even gonna attempt to revisit the rest.

[@bruhdon4748]

@@mnorth1351 eh that’s not true, maybe it’s because a lot of movies that are heavy in CGI are usually just pumped out nonsense like marvel that just get lazy & subpar CGI especially in black panther, I think CGI has gotten so good that it’s in places that you don’t even notice and that’s the whole point, I think the reason it looks like CGI hasn’t come all that far is because they try to do insane over the top things that just end up looking crap, narnia and Lotr had a great blend of CGI and practical, lots of movies now just go full CGi and green screen and it loses the weight

[@abrahamfields9893]

I think Narnia would really lend itself well to a high budget animated series like arcane! There could be less emphasis on action and it could be way more atmospheric.

[@hollyro4665]

Honestly I think the series would’ve worked really well if it tried to follow Harry Potter even more literally. Small and British. I could Narnia having been a cute CBBC series in the early 2000s.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@hollyro4665 Not really much cuteness in Narnia, especially when you get to LB.

[@sackthebastard]

A show doesn’t need to be animated to be atmospheric or have less emphasis on action

[@itsgonnabeokay9341]

​@@sackthebastardbut animation makes everything better especially if it looks like Arcane.

[@alphabloodpaw3233]

I feel like antnia actually works better as live action

[@everygameapainting772]

It's sad they gave up just before Silver Chair. That book has such unique, gloomy and eerie feel and maybe perhaps that's why it just resonates with me.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Someone else should pick up this series. Specially after it becomes public domain

[@noodleswithteeth7029]

the sky is grey for the entire book

[@crusherven]

It was my least favorite as a kid. It's grown on me as an adult.

[@justmeiniowa]

One can only imagine the CGI wonders they could create nowadays to make that book come to life. I hope to see it in my lifetime for sure.

[@workingmothercatlover6699]

I really wanted to see how they would do The Silver Chair.

[@AllBraunZeroBrains]

As a kid, the magic the movie instilled in me was fucking insane. Had to have watched that final battle a thousand times, but as a younger reader those books were such an amazing discovery as well, really enjoy the story with this one

[@MaskedMan66]

The books are so much better.

[@SuperMurray2009]

I never knew alot of people didn't like these movies. I loved them as a kid and teenager.

[@annaairahala9462]

Lion the witch and the wardrobe was well done, I think a lot of people like it. The latter ones were alright but for book readers didn't quite measure up due to many of the differences they chose to do

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@annaairahala9462 To be honest, they weren't that different from the books except for Caspian age

[@annaairahala9462]

@@lancethefilmguy9392 Voyage of the Dawn Treader was pretty different, barely any of it overlaps with the book even. Prince Caspian wasn't as far off, but there were a lot more differences than just his age.

[@Christ2010Grad]

Me too.

[@c--mn4ub]

They're flawed but I loved them honestly. They're quite charming!

[@mr.shyryhud1659]

I’ve always liked these movies. Also, their cgi for their animals is surprisingly decent for being so old.

[@dustinakadustin]

Aslan looks more lifelike and interesting than the lions in The Lion King remake😂😂😂

[@prska]

@@dustinakadustin jesus this isnt a video or a comment about "narnia's cgi vs lion king's cgi" stop being a hater and enjoy both

[@deadplthebadass21]

@@prska Please stop calling people haters for criticizing something... you can criticize a movie and still love it at the same time and nowhere in their comment did they said they hated the movie.... For example of that criticizing thing I love Scooby-Doo 2 monsters unleashed the movie was terrible I agree but AWESOME for me personally because it's so dumb it's good

[@dustinakadustin]

@@prska I don't have to enjoy everything

[@melfree2545]

They’re easier to look at than the live action Lion King.

[@isak242]

I remember these movies, that one scene where the witch freezes the fox was terrifying to me as a child.

[@partydean17]

Same

[@Pantano63]

Yea, it was a very cold move on her part. I remeber I had some of the toys from McDonald's.

[@hookedonphoenix3112]

I’ve always wanted to see an adaptation of “The Magician’s Nephew,” the first book chronologically. It’s so whimsical and fun, and we get to see the origins of Narnia. Part of me wishes the series would get a treatment like “His Dark Materials,” but I know no modern studio will respect it.

[@MaskedMan66]

Maybe, maybe not, but it has been done twice on radio, first by the BBC, then by Focus on the Family.

[@rebeccaservais8115]

Fun fact: Diggory (the Professor) was based off of Tolkien and Treebeard was based off of Lewis. Lucy was the name of Lewis's goddaughter

[@punbug4721]

Oh... oh no... That line about Treebeard taking so long to say anything... Damn they were throwing shade lol.

[@hunterolaughlin]

Does that mean John Rhys-Davies will play C.S. Lewis in a film biopic? 😂 Well, you said Treebeard was based on Lewis and John Rhys-Davies voiced the character in the Peter Jackson films, so it’s fitting he’s got to play the actual man himself.

[@christiantopping4386]

That is quite possibly the best fact i have heard and will ever hear in my life

[@MaskedMan66]

I've never heard of Digory being based on Tolkien. Dr. Elwin Ransom, the hero of Lewis's "Space Trilogy," was.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@hunterolaughlin Only if they animate a movie about Lewis; Rhys-Davies is older now than Lewis ever got to be.

[@mollydooker9636]

It’s a shame they didn’t do “The magicians nephew” it would have looked amazing. Ah maybe next time.

[@purrrbot]

Hard agree. I always hoped that Disney would pick up these novel readaptations again. Been wishing for it since Narnia hit theaters.. A lot of childhood movies don't hold up, but this one definitely does.

[@backtoklondike]

As the video said, Netflix is making a new series. But we don't know how it's developing right now and if it is a total reboot. If it is, then chances are that we will never see The magicans nephew with Netflix' tendency to cancel shows. And besides that, I'd be dying to see an adaptation of The horse and his boy. I always felt that book was overlooked just because it's a side story.

[@camiriofrio6995]

If netflix does it, I really hope they don't take creative liberty and go and ruin the series....

[@MaskedMan66]

@@backtoklondike I don't trust Netflix.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@camiriofrio6995 They will, they will, and it'll be more time, talent and money wasted.

[@friendlystranger8522]

I haven't even THOUGHT about Narnia for literal years, but the first one was one of those movies I kept rewatching as a kid.

[@thunderbird1921]

Except for Narnia fans, it seems nearly EVERYONE has forgotten these movies ever released! Unbelievable.

[@m.j.piazza7853]

I read the books like every decent Christian homeschooler. I didn’t know the movie existed until several years after it came out and the hype was died down.

[@sleepyontime5513]

It was all I watched when I was six and I even cut my hair the same style as Lucy 🥰

[@alanpennie8013]

@@thunderbird1921 It never escaped from the shadow of LOTR.

[@thunderbird1921]

@@alanpennie8013 True, I could maybe see that, but it's still crazy though how much they've been forgotten. Even big Disney fans hardly ever acknowledge these films' existence.

[@Qenton]

They always forget that "A Horse and His Boy" would make an amazing stand-alone movie.

[@davidesguario2151]

Yup, just as it was a good stand-alone novel :)

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Magician's Nephew out of context would work as well. Silver Chair would need a little help with King Caspian and Aslan, but otherwise could be a standalone.

[@cherieuk4488]

It is actually my favourite book, after The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. A nod to the Kings and Queens, a taste of Narnia in the Golden Age, a real rags to riches story, a sort of Great Expectations arc for the two lead characters, with a snotty rich girl and a poor boy, the twins twist etc etc. So much going on. Great storytelling.

[@tamarawynne424]

Yes! I was just thinking it. It's much more of an action/adventure chase story that ends in a climactic battle and then the main character turns out to be a prince without know. I read over it at Christmas time, and yes it has the racism and sexism that was common during the period it was written, but it also has a woman of colour as one of the leads so I think they could adapt a lot of the problematic elements out of it. Even if they used it as a "soft reboot" as they were planning with Silver chair it'd work quite well. It's got the call backs/cameos from the first book, and they could just swap out Edmund for Peter (because Skanda doesn't act any more) and it would work fine for the ages of the old actors now. But they're background decoration to the main characters who don't actually know who they are. And really, I'm just a sucker for fantasy where the main setting is based upon the Near East or Northern Africa instead of Europe.

[@ianwestc]

A Horse and His Boy and The Magician's Nephew could work for Narnia as side stories, ala Rogue One for Star Wars.

[@desertrose0601]

It’s my understanding that the main issue in making these series is that the Lewis estate only gives licenses to movie-fy it for a few years at a time, which generally isn’t actually enough time to adapt all seven. This is why any time people have tried to adapt these, only 2-3 get made. I grew up watching the BBC versions which also only had 3 adapted.

[@MaskedMan66]

The T.V. version did four of the books.

[@ryanw2032]

One of the problems with re-doing the series is that they will inevitably start with The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe again. The problem with this is that TONS of versions of this story have been made. I hope the next attempt starts with The Magician's Nephew and A Horse and His Boy, just to mix it up a little.

[@MaskedMan66]

The BBC Radio series began with "The Magician's Nephew" and presented the stories in chronological order, as Lewis always recommended.

[@michelleflood7225]

@@MaskedMan66 the book I’ve got of them ( contains all seven ) begins with magicians nephew and has them in Lewis’s recommended order . And not by publication dates which is how some sets have them . Lion witch and the wardrobe was the first published which is why most start there but I’m hoping Netflix listen to Douglas Gresham ( Lewis’s stepson ) who by the way they have to go through to get the rights to any of the book series as he’s executor of Lewis’s estate . If you look at the dedication on the horse and his boy you’ll find it’s dedicated to Douglas and his brother David who became his stepsons when he married their mum joy in 1956 . I’d recommend reading Lenten lands his book that is about Lewis and his wife joy Gresham or watching the various interviews with him on here . Very eloquent and lovely speaker .

[@iamawesome4026]

It feels like they won’t do it whoever makes the story or if they do, they will try to exaggerate it.

[@Foxygrandpa2131]

I’m not sure how you adapt Magicians Nephew. The climax is a kid not eating a fruit, not really as interesting as the final battle with the witch.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@Foxygrandpa2131 There's no one "climax" to that story, unless it be the creation of Narnia. It's a tale with multiple amazing scenes.

[@jaysutter9934]

I’m gonna be that guy and point out that Narnia actually is not an allegory. It’s really just a fantasy series from a Christian worldview. Aslan doesn’t symbolize Jesus, he literally is Jesus incarnated as a lion in a fantasy world.

[@Ceviche4K]

So It'd be more accurate to call it a "retelling" of sorts?

[@barshafoxman4169]

Kinda, more of an 'Elseworlds' situation. It was a 'What if there was this other world with talking Animals, how would Jesus have manifested there?' sort of thing :)

[@SammyD-vz1qj]

This is why we get the line by Aslan at the end of Narmia 3 "In your world I have another name"

[@beccag2758]

Lol I was gonna write this too😂 basically think of the Aslan-Jesus dynamic being like Abe Lincoln in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Slayer. Abe Lincoln is literally just the real Abe Lincoln but he also deals with vampires. This is why I’m always annoyed when people are like “Lewis went too far with allegory etc etc.” It’s totally okay if people don’t like the books, but Lewis literally said it wasn’t allegory, it was a supposal (what if) so complaining about allegory overload is a moot point.

[@jaysutter9934]

@@beccag2758 so you listen to the Narniaweb podcast as well?

[@scs998]

If anyone does want to redo a Narnia adaptation I would LOVE to see an episodic retelling of the voyage of the Dawn Treador. Completley faithful, each episode is a new island, it would be SO GOOD!! The movie made me so mad cause it was so unfaithful to the book

[@maddiesteiner1063]

I was furious at the amount of changes in the movie.

[@MaskedMan66]

Both BBC Radio and Focus on the Family have done excellent audio adaptations of the Chronicles; they're well worth hunting up and listening to. The Focus series is hosted by C.S. Lewis's stepson Douglas Gresham.

[@PabloStirling]

Actually Disney had a massive franchise, Pirates of the Caribbean.

[@LittleNicky558]

Pablo, at this time only the first two potc movies were out, both aimed at an adult audience. Those movies got more childish overtime. Narnia is very different, mainly aimed at children.

[@PabloStirling]

@@LittleNicky558 you’re very on point. Didn’t remember the rating on potc.

[@PabloStirling]

@@LittleNicky558 Disney is about to hit his first PG: R with Deadpool 3

[@LittleNicky558]

@@PabloStirling yes and disney plus where i live in canada is about to add over 500 new adult movies from fox etc and over 300 new tv series from various places, all aimed at Adults. In the early 2000s they experimented with adult stuff but pirates was the only thing that succeeded. With the absorption of fox in (2016-17?) they were finally able to get their hands onto the adult audience, just under the name of 20th century fox.

[@SnifferSock]

They are hell-bent on ruining that one too. 😅

[@j.g.3737]

I’m a middle school English teacher- been reading the books to my students and then watching the movies in class; they loved them. The kids still really enjoyed the trilogy, despite the dated effects. We coincidentally finished Voyage of the Dawn Treader today. They were a bit sad to learn there were no more.

[@Flome810]

I’m in middle school right now :D

[@spongemaster]

I grew up watching them so it's nice to know that kids today are still enjoying them despite them no longer being "relevant". My friend and I were obsessed with them back then so it was a little disappointing to later realise that they didn't have the same impact for everyone else. They'll always hold a special place in my memories at least.

[@nathangale7702]

On the bright side, that will be good motivation for them to read the books so they can enjoy the rest of the story.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

i was in middle school (mayle late elementary) when the first film came out. i thought it was better than a good portion of the Harry Potter adaptations at the time and even watched it fairly recently sometime in quarantine. its still quite good, the supporting actors like Tilda Swinton, James McAvoy, and Liam Neeson really sell their roles.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@quinnmarchese6313 Were you high in middle school? Cuz harry potter was better than every Narnia movie.

[@Rammsteinfanboy2]

These books were so damn good it hurt to see Disney absolutely fail with a world full of lore so deep it could fill a black hole.

[@MaskedMan66]

"So blessed good" would be my assessment! 🙂

[@kenllacer]

CS Lewis is a legend for creating a fictional world immune to Disney's 'charms'. Like a wolf that refuses to be domesticated.

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

It's unabashedly Christian and I'm surprised Hollywood even made it.

[@SirHirnschaden]

@@CyberneticArgumentCreator i mean most peopel don even get the direct connections anymore bcs they are disconnecting from it. even the so called christians ^^ so u can just set it up less focused on it

[@SirHirnschaden]

Now its Netflix turn :D

[@pendlera2959]

@@SirHirnschaden Are you kidding? When the first movie came out my Sunday School did lessons based on it. People in my Church were all like, "yes, this famous movie will totally draw people in to Christianity!"

[@mnorth1351]

So what you're saying is... It's not a tame lion? 🤣

[@jenniemochixo]

i actually REALLY enjoyed edmund in the second movie

[@ladonke8044]

Same, the second movie acc makes it seem like he learns something and in some ways he’s an anchor for Peter as Peter becomes desperate and chases his old glory, Edmund becomes more mature and casually heroic but in the third all that goes out the window and he seemingly loses all progress made previously

[@riderofrohan8840]

I agree. The second Narnia movie has its problems, but I do think in general it is a really good film

[@DaDunge]

Yeah I think the third one is where he's weakest. Which s sad because in the third one removed from Peter's shadow is where he shines in the books. I seems to recall he's the only one not tempted by the golden water, because Edmund dealt with temptation in the first book and know where it leads. Thee's a really cool quote from him about Eustace just having been an idiot while Edmund himself had been a traitor.

[@thereaIitsybitsyspider]

Tilda Swinton as the witch was such a perfect and memorable casting.

[@alanpennie8013]

They kept bringing her back in the sequels. Not surprising Miraz was a pussy, only 10% as evil as she was.

[@cdubbleyoo]

What has Tilda Swinton been in that didn't seem like perfect casting?

[@dawn__to__dusk9129]

@@cdubbleyoo I loved her in Snowpiercer!

[@belegl.7721]

@@cdubbleyoo Not be too much of stickler or to say that she didn't do a great job, but she was arguably not perfectly cast in Dr. Strange

[@ComedyBros5]

@@belegl.7721 Agreed. Her character felt very...off in that.

[@johnolson9793]

i've always believed that Disney doesnt have what it takes for high fantasy/ Sci-fi. Disney doesnt push the boundaries on their content. they wont get down and dirty or gritty enough for their shows to make sense. I still believe Star Wars would do much better if it were owned by a different film company.

[@monkey6207]

Brave was a huge let down. Thought it was supposed to be epic from the trailers, then I remembered it was disney. . .

[@AKen_Films]

It’s also because Disney is afraid to apply a certain grit to their movies that may or my not fit with the child-like Disney brand they’ve worked to preserve. They can do high fantasy/sci-fi, just not with the same grounded sense of realism or depth.

[@jimf1964]

Old Disney could have done the series ok, but new Disney (and most of new Hollywood) would have to make it woke and politically correct and destroy it with one of the characters being gay, or only girls in charge.

[@bikosaurusrex2264]

Hunchback of Notre Dame was the darkest thing they did. And even that is tainted by silly wacky gargoyles 😒

[@ShadowPa1adin]

You realize this video is about Narnia, right? People grew up reading those books because their parents were afraid that literal demons would get them if they read other fantasy books. The kind of people that make reviews "warning others" about a cartoon "having a bad message" because it's about something like a little girl learning to believe in herself "when she should instead be relying on God." These are not stories that "push boundaries."

[@lindakarlsson7348]

The first Narnia movie was a hit because it works well as a movie. The two sequels were decent, but you could tell it became more and more difficult to hold the franchise together, because the Narnia books just are´nt written in that way. I´m not surprised they dropped the project.

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

That's right. Now that I think about it, Prince Caspian should've been more about the Pevensies redeeming Narnia, or undoing the damage their absence caused (their was the Dark Age and the Talmerine Age after they left and I can only guess it's bc they had no Kings or Queens). Idk though. Overall, this franchise is pretty underrated imo. Even though it is very flawed, as many franchises are, I think it was cool.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@marshmallowvampire8503 Their absence didn't cause any of the damage, because the Telmarines appeared years and years later. And the Pevensies didn't redeem Narnia, Aslan did. As before, the siblings were among his helpers.

[@r.jclark4641]

I think they'd work wonderfully as movies. But Disney kept pushing a 3 act structure onto them, which isn't a good idea. They should've been approached less like blockbusters and more like art films or anthology films.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@r.jclark4641 In other words, they should have followed the BBC's lead and just adapted the books as written.

[@r.jclark4641]

@@MaskedMan66 Yeah, but with the advantages of a higher budget. I think it would be interesting to see a film adaptation of a book that is completely faithful, even down to the descriptions of clothes or settings, and how people might react to such a work, especially since it would have to be very long, probably 3 and a half hours in length.

[@hamburgler9839]

in 5th Grade my teacher loaded us all into a schoolbus and took us to see The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe in theatres. It was a moment I'll never forget

[@hamburgler9839]

later the following year, epic movie came out and ripped on Narnia

[@jacobdavis6056]

Honestly forget how beautiful the first movie was visually

[@TedSchoenling]

it was amazing. I remember watching it the first time when Lucy got into Narnia and was just blown away

[@revanchists]

The music was also great, I still listen to the final battle ost every once in a while

[@therealmr.incredible3179]

Too Bad Dawn treader didn’t have the same elements to it, Can’t really blame Fox tho. They set up the next movie in all the possible ways and did as much as possible for The Dawn Treader. Still everything felt a loss without all 4 of the Pevensies.

[@hirinawara8731]

You really got the nail on the head with this. I remember being such a big fan of the first movie as a kid, it felt whimsical it had its strong villain it had its relatable main characters all with strong motives and kind supporting characters and then when the second movie came out I felt so removed from the story. I don’t even remember what it was about thinking about it now. I missed the side support characters we were introduced to in the first, I missed the dynamics and the exploration of the magic world. Kid me felt alienated from the franchise and it killed my interest.

[@sebastianjdillingham]

Dawn treader would have been SUCH a cool like, single season tv series

[@AndyMiller_windskisong]

That was our thought as well. It was written as an episodic story, not a single story.

[@MaskedMan66]

They did an excellent job with the BBC TV version.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Yeeesss

[@ultimate9056]

That's honestly why the Dawn Treader was my favourite in the series. I just enjoyed how it was a collection of smaller stories all part of one big journey

[@MaskedMan66]

@@ultimate9056 It's definitely one of my favorite entries in the series. Lewis pulled out all the stops for that one. :-)

[@rebeccacalledalice]

Honestly, I can remember going into the first film without knowing anything about it. I think my dad just put it on for my brother and I to watch. He was a fan of the books, I believe. At first, I thought it was going to be about these four children being evacuated. But when Lucy first stepped into the wardrobe, I was just as surprised as she was. After that, I completely fell in love with the series. It's a shame they never continued past Dawn Treader. It was a really good adaptation.

[@MaskedMan66]

Your dad should have given you the books instead.

[@rebeccacalledalice]

@@MaskedMan66 he only had two of them. we couldn't find the others.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@rebeccacalledalice *Yiddish accent* Vhat, you got no bookstore or library in your burg?

[@yammoto148]

@@MaskedMan66 Typical elietist mentality.

[@GolgappaUwU]

Same 🥹 literally love em so much i still want then to make a part 4 literally read all the books cause i wanted to know what's next 😍😍

[@glazed_waffle5629]

Man Narnia could've been so much better as a franchise sigh now it's just squandered potential right next to the Percy Jackson series.

[@sbi168]

First thing I thought after this movie is I wonder what he thinks of percy Jackson hahaha that was a strange series right there!

[@maldon3659]

Percy Jackson is getting a series on Disney Plus and Netflix is doing a Chronicles of Narnia series

[@glazed_waffle5629]

@@maldon3659 You for real?!?!

[@maldon3659]

@@glazed_waffle5629 yes though like Captain Midnight said we haven't heard anything new about Netflix's Narnia show since 2018

[@jadeharley7190]

Percy Jackson is getting a series on Disney plus. The writer of the book is actually being included in the creative process, which should fix the problems the live action had

[@byanigel_]

i was about 4 years old when i watched the first Narnia movie. this movie brings me the old good time memories, every ending part of this movies always touched my heart specially the caspian one. being grown up is sucks, i miss my childhood memories a lot, i'm hoping narnia can make another movie series :(

[@MaskedMan66]

Read the books. Much better.

[@Mr-V1nce]

The Call by Regina Spektor is one of the few songs that made me cry. That good bye scene from Prince Caspian really had me in the feels

[@xioamidala1851]

Same

[@SanphireJaide7]

As a Lewis fan for decades (I've read all his books), I thought the movies were superb overall, The faithful attention to tasteful costumes and sets would, I'm sure, have met with Lewis's approval. The cast did amazingly well. I'm sad that The Silver Chair fizzled out - hopefully someone will take it on. I'd love to see an adaptation of his sf trilogy! Thankyou - excellent video.

[@MaskedMan66]

As a Lewis fan for decades (I've read most of his books, and all of his fiction), I thought the movies were absolute pants. While he was more relaxed about adaptations of his work than his mate Tollers was, I don't think he would have liked a lot of what the films did. His heroes were always children, and he would certainly not have liked a 24 year-old Caspian where there should have been a 12 year-old one. Nor would he have appreciated the forced romance between him and Susan.

[@SanphireJaide7]

@@MaskedMan66 I agree that CSL would probably have balked at the romance - they probably made Caspian older to allow for that unnecessary change to the story.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@SanphireJaide7 And you have to wonder who exactly the filmmakers were aiming at; they knew going in that the primary audience would be children.

[@Psychoma99]

Little kid me was in shambles when they didn't make a movie for every book lol

[@isabellaswanson1558]

I feel this on the most sincere of levels. Literally took so many movie adaptations for granted smh

[@sleepyontime5513]

Imagine my surprise when I learned they were books and there were more than just three 😃

[@huntsman9316]

Same here. I remember getting all three movies for my birthday and getting sad that only 3 were made

[@GlytcheD]

They NEED to do a Magician's Nephew adaptation. It might be exactly what the franchise needs to get new life breathed into it.

[@Thespeedrap]

It should had been the first movie before Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe I mean yeah chronological order but as films it would had worked.

[@madelinevance8954]

Like what you did there with “new life breathed into it,” like how Aslan breathed onto people for them to come back to life after being turned to stone. And no, this comment was not necessary. I just wanted to say that.

[@dandelion6716]

agreed

[@gabblebabbles2017]

Especially since it is literally about the beginning of Narnia and of the white witches reign in Narnia. Like movie fans don't even know that like the Pevensies, the white witch is from a different world.

[@chriscze6153]

I love this series immensely still as an adult and I must say Magician's Nephew is probably the one I read most as a kid/teenager. Mesmerizing story - would be so easy to adapt into a movie too.

[@Jabb8055]

I remember watching the first movie and it was captivating. As a kid I was always bored and alone, wishing I had friends and just lost in my own thoughts. The idea of a closet leading to a new magical world where I could be someone special was amazing. I am 30 years old now and can honestly say it was one of the only movies that stuck with me growing up

[@MaskedMan66]

There were many ways of getting to Narnia besides the wardrobe, including magic rings, passing through a rift in the air, being pulled through an oil painting, or calling out to Aslan; in every case, Aslan himself was allowing the passage.

[@CagedPhoenixThe1st]

@@MaskedMan66 lmaooooo. Man's pouring his heart out and you're mentioning how there's more doors to Narnia

[@MaskedMan66]

@@CagedPhoenixThe1st And?

[@CagedPhoenixThe1st]

@@MaskedMan66 😂😆😂😆

[@ldxtr9050]

I read every single narnia book as a kid and while I dont remember much anymore, I DO remember that everything after dawntreader was nuts.

[@victordeluca7360]

So true

[@bluestrife28]

I’m just glad I got to see Tilda Swinton be as evil as anyone could possibly be playing the White Witch. I waited for a long time before I gave up that I’d see more movies :( but I’m grateful for what we got.

[@MaskedMan66]

I thought she was dull.

[@AliceInBlunderland666]

@@MaskedMan66 My thoughts exactly. Barbara Kellerman, who played the White Witch in the BBC drama series in the late 80s (which I find to be far more superior to the film, which I never really liked) did a much better job. Her portrayal was more believable; she could bring it the fierceness and ruthlessness of the White Witch so much better, it actually made her character scary, as it should be. Tilda Swinton's WW was just...dull and not very scary in my opinion.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@AliceInBlunderland666 The best WW for my money was Rosemary Martin, who played the part in the BBC Radio versions of MN and LWW. But for a visual representation, yes, Ms. Kellerman was streets ahead of Ms. Swinton. She looked capable of violence and had that seething rage always lurking under her icy surface, ready to burst out at any moment! She also portrayed an essential part of Jadis's character which people don't think about, and that was her cowardice. When Aslan roared at her, she jolly well high-tailed it! What did Tilda do? She fell back into her chair. *YAWN*

[@ParadeTheGospel]

I just gotta say, I love the soundtrack to the first two Narnia movies.

[@mastahfrederique1147]

Absolute bangers. Just convinced a guy to watch the movies (he's never seen them) by having him listen to tracks from Wardrobe and Caspian.

[@riderofrohan8840]

A very underrated soundtrack

[@belleretiredaccount]

@@mastahfrederique1147 I just did this as well! I described to my friend the immersion I felt seeing the first one in theaters as a kid. The way the music swells and blends with the sound of the train as the Pevensies were leaving to escape the war is just masterful and majestic, no matter how many times you watch it.

[@christopherpenn9585]

We dont talk about the Eragon movie. That never happened.

[@kiraalexandria1521]

Which is a shame because those books had such potential

[@bjorndejonckheere8677]

Because it reminded people of the lord of the rings and Star Wars mix?

[@clefspeareiii1710]

I mean, it was a *decent* fantasy movie... It’s just a shame that it doesn’t follow its source material very well at all

[@steyn1775]

What movie? There's NO ERAGON MOVIE Nope, never existed, a brain thought, thoughts of a madman

[@clefspeareiii1710]

@@steyn1775 hey man, at least it’s not the “unnamed film, which doesn’t exist” based on Avatar: The Last Airbender

[@kiarah.371]

i appreciate you not dunking on C.S. Lewis for being a Christian that wrote stories rooted in and about his faith

[@juniorjames7076]

I grew up in the Catholic church, attended Catholic school from 2nd grade to High School, altar boy in junior high. But even I recognized as I got older that even though I loved the Narnia series as a child, there are some really racist and orientalists themes in his books. Those discussions should NOT be shied away from.

[@toxicsugarart2103]

@@juniorjames7076 I mean I agree but that’s not at all what kiara was even talking about.

[@g.williams2047]

No that's not right, this was written many years ago. All we do nowadays is say how "racist" someone was and then lock their work off to the public.

[@shiroamakusa8075]

@@g.williams2047 It was problematic already at the time it was written, since only a few years previous, there was a major war against powers that took white supremacism and western imperialism to its natural conclusion.

[@LordThranduil234]

@@juniorjames7076 Care to elaborate? I have to imagine that most of the criticism would have to do with Calormen, which to me always seemed to be a fantasy stand-in of Muslim/Arabian countries.

[@JL-pj6kk]

The magician’s nephew was always my favorite of the books, it’s probably for the best no movie has come from it.

[@Hippidippimahm]

The Magician’s Nephew is so creepy and full of haunting imagery, I really wish we’d gotten a movie 😭

[@dpandcrspandvn]

I agree - it is a great origins story. The audio book version with Michael Hordern narrating is ace! In what way creepy?

[@ltb1345]

@@dpandcrspandvn She probably is talking about the Witch’s backstory, wherein she committed genocide by simply saying a cursed word.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@dpandcrspandvn I think you mean Maurice Denham.

[@MaskedMan66]

The BBC wanted to do it for their T.V. series, but ran out of resources. A great pity, too; they were going to have Jon Pertwee as Andrew Ketterly.

[@dpandcrspandvn]

@@ltb1345 yes, all the stuff on Charn is pretty dark. The walk through the hallway of figures, whose faces show the hardening and corrupting of their society ...

[@icircumcisedmonkeysafterfo4781]

"directed by Shrek and Shrek" I stopped right there and had a good giggle

[@linnen_elm]

Disney might as well should adapting Shaggy and 2% of his maximum power at this rate

[@sengbush0077]

Marvel is showing you can make a side character in a movie comeback many years later and still be remembered.

[@Caesim9]

But Marvel also shows that such a series needs a strong direction (I think Kevin Feige is holding everything together), as all the other superhero cinematic universes (X-Men, DCEU) failed.

[@KishoreKumar-uz8ir]

Darcy and Woo?

[@eric2709]

A franchise with a large number of lead characters that pop in and out of the story? No, that could never work. ...Except with the Marvel CU, which just so happens to be the biggest franchise ever.

[@chaseandrews9354]

with separate movies and comic books for each character.................

[@ShibuNub3305]

Irrelevant to the comment, but I have never heard anyone refer to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as “Marvel CU”. Not nitpicking or anything, just an interesting observation.

[@MrFrog-yg9dp]

...which started 2 years after this movie

[@Matpeixelegal]

@@ShibuNub3305 cu means butthole in portuguese. So Marvel's CU sounds hilarious to me lol

[@juniperp3074]

The difference is that the MCU was built over many years. They added characters slowly and didn't start switching them out until years after it started. Narnia is 7 books with the main characters changing in each one.

[@teira1336]

I really liked that the films didn't shy away too much from the religious allegories, at least the firrst film- I feel like if they did these films now they'd try to remove all of that stuff but that was Lewis's heart and writings it wouldn't be the same without it

[@MaskedMan66]

Lewis made it clear that the Narnia stories were not allegories, and in fact, the movies did rather butcher-- or worse yet, ignore-- many of the Christian themes Lewis put into his stories. Eustace's "undragoning" was criminally glossed over.

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@MaskedMan66 They were obvious allegories and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.

[@lwestpuppy]

I think the first movie had a wonderful sense of dark mystical-ness. A perfect example would be the scene where Tumnus is playing this dark and creepy, but beautiful lullaby as Lucy falls asleep looking into the fire. The second film followed a lot of the Targaryen, humans took over Narnia plot. It was dark but with no mystical-ness or depth. I actually think the Prince Caspian movie might’ve been better, if they started out with showing the destruction of the four kids castle and the Narnians going into hiding, instead of the children finding the collapsed in broken castle. also I think music plays a really important role in adding the essence of something special in a fantasy movie, and I think having a new soundtrack, or adding interesting musical motifs would have been a lot better.

[@MaskedMan66]

Targaryen? I think you mean Telmarines. The Castle of Cair Paravel stood centuries before the Pevensies ever ruled, and endured until the very last days of Narnia, when it was taken over by the Calormenes.

[@nerizepansit1032]

Man the music score is very awesome to hear

[@MaskedMan66]

@@nerizepansit1032 Too good for these films.

[@chad1755]

@@MaskedMan66 No, Cair Paravel was in ruins when the pevensies found it in Prince Caspian. It was thousands of years after events of TLWW.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@chad1755 It was exactly one thousand years since LWW, and what bits of it had fallen into disrepair were restored when Caspian became king. And like I said, it stood for the rest of the history of Narnia.

[@ocg6]

I feel like netflix could do really well by centring each season around one book, so each season focuses on a new story and characters in the same setting over a long time, similar to what theyve done with The Crown

[@4leafclover395]

Considering what Disney did to the Skywalker saga, I’m relieved that they no longer plan to make Narnia films.

[@thunderbird1921]

That's what I thought the last couple of years. I would have loved to have seen The Magician's Nephew or The Silver Chair, but it's better the series ended with the three main books decently than be ruined by modern Disney's crap.

[@AlexGonzalez-gf4oz]

I mean yeah, the sequels are shit but most of the other material is great. Rebels for example, is heavily underrated.

[@xanderhildebrand4099]

@@AlexGonzalez-gf4oz thats because whatever Dave Filoni touches is gold.

[@bloodnivel70]

not canon who cares

[@mikebliss3153]

The Sequels are not as bad as everyone thinks. They're not gold, certainly, but they're more like....bronze. And I'm okay with that.

[@thisjustincomics]

I mean tbh I don’t remember the last time anyone’s really talked about those films. Haven’t even seen them since they came out in theaters way back

[@Inframan-6767]

The first one has a lot of Wonder and Spectacle, the Sequels don't hold up at all.

[@vullord666]

I see people still talk about the Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe pretty often (and it’s referenced a good amount), but the sequels are generally forgotten. Really when a series isn’t going to follow the same character continuously it just doesn’t make for a good movie franchise. Even the MCU relied on popular faces like Iron Man before they were able to make the audience care for newer and lesser known heroes. A dynamic cast is generally best in books and print media.

[@vtuberarisa6840]

@@vullord666 How about Black Mirror?

[@csventura6607]

The first movie was really very good. It, at least, deserves more attention.

[@zednotzee]

@@csventura6607 I only ever saw that first movie, and even then, though i enjoyed it, it felt like DIsney was just chasing the coattails of LOTR and HP

[@lenzzzzzzz]

What frustrates me is if they wanted to reboot it why not start with the magicians nephew it literally allows you to reboot the whole thing...I just wanted to see a horse and his boy on the big screen (the one story that does work as a blockbuster)

[@LuisgiXD]

Funnily enough, the third movie was any favourite. It has this journey feeling and the shots are just gorgeous. This was actually how I got into Narnia.

[@Haruzak1]

Same. I don't get the hate of 3rd movie. I love them all equally.

[@MaskedMan66]

The third movie was the worst of all, with Lewis's whole point of Eustace's un-dragoning being ignored.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@Haruzak1 Basically, it crapped all over Lewis's book and tried to pack five chapters into one scene.

[@Ironica82]

My main beef with the third film is that it took my favorite chapter and made it into a villain they had to defeat.

[@BHenwood]

Great video! I appreciate you acknowledging that all of the films are actually very watchable and enjoyable- I think a lot of people just say they weren't good and that's why the series fell apart, but it all comes back to the source material

[@Philtopy]

What I really liked about Natnia was that you could see in the costume design that they employed people who knew what they were doing quite well. Unlike RingOfPower or Eragon, in Narnia almost all the Armors and weapons are heavily inspired by real ones. This authenticity of clothing but still making it fantasy just feels right.

[@carla6485]

I think the only way to give The Chronicles of Narnia justice, is by having Hayao Miyazaki make it. Animation is great when you have characters that have physical changes or a big cast.

[@MayMay-qn2dd]

God that would be so beautiful.

[@manihabibti]

I wish this would happen!!!

[@erikgriffith8857]

I love Miyazaki's films but I want live action films and someone more attuned to the Christian themes in the series.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

A random japanese animator is not going to bust that box office money.

[@RootBeerofDoom]

@@RandalfElVikingo Calling Miyazaki a "random japanese animator" rather mis-states his role as just about the most famous animator of the current era (US or Japanese). The bigger problem is the director needs to at least understand the Christian tones of the books, or their adaptations will miss the emotional center of the stories.

[@redshirtnumber3494]

The Chronicles of Narnia will always be near and dear to my heart. My brother and I shared a room together for about 18 years since I was born really lol. But we had a dvd and tape player, and with that we had the audio books on disk for the entire Chronicles of Narnia series and we would always play a disk when going to bed to sleep at night, and we did that for about 16 years I want to say. We had other things to listen to, but that was the main thing we listened too. My brother and eye still recite funny lines fro. The audio book to this day, some of our favorites come from “The Horse and His Boy”, the starting sequence with the line “TAAAKE THIS CHIIILD” and later the main villain ranting to his dad about not having Susan for a bride “I MUST HAVE HERRRR, I WOULD DIE IF I DO NOT HAVE HER”

[@TheCatWatches]

Nothing will be better than the costumes of Mr. and Mrs. Beaver in the BBC adaptations lol

[@chrismac1507]

I had legit nightmares dude 😭

[@LeeroyPorkins]

Peter: I think we're a match for ONE beaver! Me: You must fight SCPs then.

[@blue_avocado4086]

The whole BBC series was great. The Disney series always felt like it was trying to hard.

[@Crybaby-Media]

I forgot about this! This was terrifying

[@hunterolaughlin]

No. Those Beaver costumes are still awful. I’ll admit they’re more practical than CGI, but not really convincing to be an animal. Animatronics or puppets would have been a more appropriate effect to portray the talking animal characters in the BBC miniseries than having people in animal costumes. I know it’s because of the low budget, but, seriously, for something like C.S.’s the Chronicles of Narnia, having the animals just be people in costumes doesn’t really present the magic from the books as effectively. Lewis even would have hated the costumes and the manner the animals were depicted. A major reason he was skeptical of having his Narnia series adapted to television is because of the low budget and limitations of television studios to portray convincing talking animals back then, which would obviously have involved them being costumed people. The BBC is basically a realization of Lewis’ worst fears of adaptations of his books.

[@tackyman2011]

They should do a one-off that is just the adventures of Reepicheep.

[@sleepyontime5513]

OH MY GOD ID LOVE TO SEE THAT

[@alanpennie8013]

@@sleepyontime5513 Reepicheep goes round the world. I mean what's west of The Lantern? You could invent anything.

[@rebeccaservais8115]

@@alanpennie8013 we know a little of what's beyond the wdge of the world and that would be fascinating

[@samuelzuleger5134]

@@alanpennie8013 Well, there is Cauldron Pool, then beyond that is Castle Telmar, then the mountains. Beyond that is a garden. Yes...I have read the books too many times. That said, an adventures of Reepicheep would be fun.

[@santiago8991]

After seeing the video I truly believe that Narnia needs a miniseries. Every episode is a book and that's it

[@abishaipaul2298]

Like sherlock

[@arjujannaka9807]

Like A Series of Unfortunate Events; a book adapted to 2 episodes. It worked well

[@erinryan3495]

The first film is almost perfectly the book. If they had kept that same screen adapting with the others, it could’ve kept its magic.

[@zachmatthews2796]

i shit my pants. it was also magical XD I am sorry it's 4 am and this is very funny to me. Narnia books were very cool. Never saw any of the movies, though.

[@erinryan3495]

@@zachmatthews2796 real talk are you okay zach

[@MaskedMan66]

The LWW movie is way off, and frankly ruins the story.

[@erinryan3495]

@@MaskedMan66 how? I read the book and watched the movie and they’re crazy crazy similar

[@MaskedMan66]

@@erinryan3495 Peter and Susan are too old; Lucy is a little brat; in the book, the kids and the beavers were way ahead of the wolves and there was no frozen waterfall scene; in the book, Susan didn't kill the White Witch's driver; in the book, the White Witch didn't sit down when Aslan roared at her, she SCREAMED AND RAN AWAY; in the book, Professor Kirke wasn't some mysterious figure who must never be seen, he met the Pevensies the very moment they arrived at his house, and tons more things.

[@BlueJay73va]

Narnia was one of my fave book series growing up, and I watched The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe too many times to count. I definitely think if we ever want to see the full series of books in film version, they have to be animated. One, like you said, the characters are all so different and the books themselves tell the story out of order, so having real actors is a massive hurdle. Two, there are just certain aspects of the books that just would not work in live action, especially in the last battle where things start to get a bit psychedelic and heavily symbolic at points. There are some stories that can only be portrayed in animation, and I really hope bigger film studios start to understand that, instead of sticking to the current trend that animated shows and movies are either for kids or all the same type of weird family guy-esque humor with very little to no in-between. Like honestly, could you imagine a full movie (or perhaps even a show might be better for pacing) series of the stories of Narnia that isn't held back by the limits of live action? I want it so bad lol

[@liljenborg2517]

I feel for the writers on Dawn Treader. It's my favorite Narnia books, but it's the least cinematic novel imaginable. The "climax" of the story is the Dawn Treader drawing closer and closer to the uttermost east watching the sun grow larger and larger, marveling at the fresh water of the sea and the increasing level of light. There's no battle, there's no conflict. The primary Character Arc of the story (Eustace's) was wrapped waaay back in chapter four. The last couple of chapters of the book is just Dante climbing up to the top of Mount Paradisio increasingly anticipating meeting God (one of Lewis' favorite pieces of literature), and that won't work for a studio wanting a family accessible fantasy blockbuster action-movie. Horse and His Boy, now that one would easily translate into a really good movie.

[@MaskedMan66]

I have no pity for them; they mucked it up beyond recognition.

[@ambergris5705]

I think it could be possible though... Think of the end to the LOTR series. It's very long, but each step is another resolution. Dawn Treader is a little bit like that. And to be honest, I feel like the three movies as a standalone franchise ended well with Aslan telling the kids that they won't come back to Narnia, a perfect farewell, on that beach, with The Lion.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@ambergris5705 What, even Eustace? In the books, he had two more Narnian adventures coming up.

[@ambergris5705]

@@MaskedMan66 You're right, Eustache would come back, but that fact is overshadowed by their imminent departure

[@MaskedMan66]

@@ambergris5705 Only if the reader thinks that the series is all about the Pevensies.

[@ameliegifford1477]

The problem with the Narnia movies is that they rip the heat out of the stories.... Like Aslan is a side character who turns out from time to time, and it's all about Peter and him winning the battle. Aslan is meant to win the battle.

[@stephaniee5717]

That’s basically Aslan in the books. He only comes when he’s needed & then he goes away again.

[@ijimenez1951]

That what he does in the books

[@MaskedMan66]

@@stephaniee5717 But he is behind everything that goes on.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@ijimenez1951 Read them again; you'll feel His influence everywhere.

[@ijimenez1951]

@@MaskedMan66 bruh

[@VeedoYT681]

These movies were the only way I experienced Narnia admitidly. I grew up on these movies and I began to rewatch them on Disney plus and man it brings me back to my childhood.

[@RamLaska]

I'm sad that we never got a movie version of "A Horse and His Boy"

[@fakebird000]

Or The Silver Chair

[@SirHirnschaden]

yet... netflix bought it for 250M

[@zoroearc2582]

Honestly, if I was adapting the whole series, I’d skip A Horse and his Boy. It’s pretty unnecessary and some aspects mightn’t sit well with modern audiences

[@RamLaska]

@@zoroearc2582 Which aspect? I loved that book! XD

[@zoroearc2582]

@@RamLaska Calormenes are pretty clearly supposed to be caricaratures of people from the Middle East.

[@spartan1010101]

I didn’t even know they made more films after Prince Caspian

[@MaskedMan66]

Just one, and it was the worst of the three; and the first two were horrible.

[@elizabethc2856]

@@MaskedMan66 speak for yourself. I love the first two movies. Especially the second one because of the action scenes. The third movie sucks though.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@elizabethc2856 I am speaking for myself, as well as a bunch of Narnians who consider all of the films to be insulting to Lewis. Even his stepson Doug Gresham disowned them after working in them.

[@disguisedcentennial835]

@@MaskedMan66 I speak for all children of moderate means in America at the time: the first movie is a core childhood memory.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@disguisedcentennial835 The book can replace that.

[@CaptainWobbs]

I can’t stop thinking about that one part in that “The Magician’s Nephew” book where the evil witch lady tries to bean Aslan across the head with a lamppost and he doesn’t even flinch.

[@Travel__Spin]

This movie was epic. Everyone at my middle school loved it. I remember hearing “For Narnia!” Being yelled at random times during PE and Recess the whole rest of the year. 😂 Disney owns them again. I think they are working on a Disney+ series.

[@MaskedMan66]

It *looked* epic, but it was a very poor adaptation. The battle cry should have been "For Aslan!"

[@evenhartwick4422]

isn't it strange how even after selling the license to fox it would come full circle and through buying fox attaining the license again along with the one sequel they didn't make

[@nerizepansit1032]

That sounds pretty cool

[@gampie13]

Narnia is probably the most depressing "death of fantasy" as a story I'm ever encountered. It starts as beloved high fantasy of wonder, and ends on the most depressing death of fantasy as a concept I've ever seen... aka, narnia was doomed to never be truly a fantasy word, it is about killing fantasy, aka the opposite of what the ganres main themes is about. The wonders and endless possibility, but instead you get the death of fantasy

[@StruggleDraxProduction]

Since no one is mentioning this in the comments, let me say this, With all the amazing soundtracks of all the great movies existed, NARNIA OST is still breathtakingly perfection. You play a soundtrack from it, you're instantly get Teleported to the magical world of Narnia. Unbelievable in an unexplainable way.

[@AliaslsailA]

Was looking for someone to say this!

[@rpvee]

Right? The themes are gorgeous, and the orchestration being a blend of orchestra, world music, and electronic elements is stunning. One of my favorite scores.

[@MichaelHolmgaard]

The Narnia soundtrack was written by Harry Gregson-Williams. Same composer who wrote the music for Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas 🙏

[@isabellamoya3934]

YESSSS it’s so underrated!!!

[@kenllixx]

I actually hear that soundtrack by itself from time to time. It's one of the best ever made.

[@chumchum3803]

As unfaithful some of the movies are to the books, the first one is a masterpiece from both a movie and visual perspective, especially for it’s time. Prince Caspian easily has the best action scenes however which rlly carries the movie in my opinion, and VOTDT is good for what it is…but the book never rlly gave it a huge action scene, which is what movies need to sell these days, but I enjoyed the characters in that movie greatly. As this series being one of my childhood favorites, GG to this trilogy, I only wish we could’ve gotten to see more.

[@MaskedMan66]

The movies were all dreadful; LWW lacked soul, and PC and VDT just went downhill fast.

[@EliWintercross]

I felt the first film was done well, but Caspian went really far off track, and Dawntreader continued the trend of going way off script and ruined the story.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@EliWintercross The first one looked good, but was off-kilter already with Peter and Susan being too old and other elements that went against Lewis.

[@zekemyers4444]

I totally forgot James McAvoy was in Narnia lol

[@Inframan-6767]

I always thought his Goat Man Character was a Bit Creepy.

[@hanburgundy4317]

One of Kevin Wendell Crumb's many alters.

[@solongsuicide9]

The "goat man" is called a Faun. The girl (Lucy) from the older tv miniseries literally says it in the clip lol. His name is Mr.Tumnus.

[@joe94c]

Looking at Prince Caspian 'i know you...why...' Has sudden flashback mirrors on a carousel

[@EncoConsento]

I honestly didn't know there were any other narnia movies except for the wizard, the witch and the wardrobe until seeing this video.

[@osmanarslan6270]

Fun fact : Aslan means "lion" in Turkish.

[@returnoftheromans6726]

Are you serious? That is so cool!

[@hydrolito]

Some one claims Darth Vader means dark father.

[@ericthomas2388]

@@systemofanup "Vater"

[@wahrerrosty5347]

@@systemofanup Sith titles are english words sometimes with minimal changes. Darth Vader stands for "Invader" Darth Sidious stands for "Insidious" Darth Tyrannus stands for "tyrant" Darth Tenebrous stands for ... well tenebrous Darth Plagueis stands for "plague" Darth Ruin stands for ruining the peace the jedi created. Darth Maul is the maul that is supposed to crush the jedi. Darth Bane is the creator of the rule of two and therefore the inevitable bane of the jedi. Darth Traya stands for betrayal Darth Revan stands for the brillant and tactical but also treasurous Raven. Darth Cognus has her title due to her incredible precognition ability and Darth Nihilus represents nihilism. There are of course exceptions to this such as Darth Krayt who is named after the mighty Krayt dragon on tatooine or Darth Zannah named after her original name Zannah since everyone knew her through her nickname Rain.

[@MisterFilOfficial]

@@ericthomas2388 Yes in german you say "Vater" but in dutch you say "Vader"

[@atlekristiansen4975]

BBC should continue their series in the near future. Sophie Cook, Jonathan R. Scott and Sophie Wilcox must be old enough now to play older Susan, Edmund and Lucy in "The Horse and His Boy"...

[@EChacon]

I still won't forget the day when Disney gave up on _The Chronicles of Narnia_ franchise following the Box Office performance of _Prince Caspian._ While that film didn't bombed and wasn't a failure, the box office performance of _Prince Caspian_ was way lower than the Box Office performance of _The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe_ released 3 years earlier. In fact, Caspian's Box Office performance really soured Walden Media's relationship with Disney which is why Disney didn't want to distribute the next film _The Voyage of the Dawn Treader_ due to a budgetary dispute with Walden and feared that the budget would increase during the production and release of the film. But to make things more complicated, Walden Media's rights to _The Chronicles of Narnia_ expired in 2011 and in 2018 Netflix now has the rights to make film and TV adaptations for The Chronicles of Narnia series thus making it impossible for Disney and also Walden Media to make new films on Narnia.

[@EChacon]

@Cauldron-Born Walden Media did collaborated with Disney again for _The BFG_ in 2016, sadly that film underperformed at the Box Office and afterwards Walden hasn't collaborated with Disney in any recent films 5 years later which is unfortunate cause outside of Disney's collaboration with Jerry Bruckheimer up until 2013 I really enjoy Disney's collaboration they had with Walden Media. Now Disney is more interested in the Live-Action Remakes, the animated films from Walt Disney Animtion and Pixar or from what they acquired (e.g. the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Lucasfilm and the Star Wars franchise, 20th Century Studios, Searchlight Pictures) and less so having other production companies collaborate on their films (e.g. Jerry Bruckheimer Films, Walden Media, Amblin Entertainment, etc..)

[@axezero1753]

you kidding if Disney wanted to Disney could buy out Netflix.

[@Lady_dromeda]

Fun fact, there was already a Narnia series made in the 80’s (or around then) they did The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe, Prince Caspian, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, AND The Silver Chair. I think they were made for tv movies from the BBC