I Watched ALL of Velma (it's bad)

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[@aliteralblueberry7837]

Blueberry approves

[@AmongusBalls65]

Hey man what’s been going on

[@limeyell0w945]

So do we get a new vid every other week now?

[@VongolaXanxus]

Treat yourself...now

[@flamingdeathbanana]

I'm glad SOMEONE knows how awful and toxic LTG is.

[@fatemakhan3843]

Mindy is the sole definition of the word "Privilege" itself. She grew up in a upper class, went to an ivy league college & never had to struggle in her life to get where she's today now. She made Velma herself insert but this version of Fred is actually HER.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Yikes, but not surprising

[@GhostFan4Life]

Jesus I can see it now.

[@wyatt778]

Yikes, now I can see it. But somehow at least Fred is slightly tolerable to me

[@judferpo-009]

We can see that most divisions and conflicts are created not by identity, but by economic disparity

[@Keurgui1]

@@judferpo-009yeah but that’s complicated so just pretend it boils down to who you like and what shade you are

[@officerwalter8877]

It’s like the writers were trying to make Velma like Bojack horseman with all the terrible ways she treats others but they forgot one crucial detail. In Bojack horsemen when something like that happens your not supposed to be rooting for the man.

[@petergriffin-tu6ug]

that is true

[@yunomileslonglostson]

and bojack had actual character development

[@CabezasDePescado]

How dare you compare this show to Bojack Horseman

[@hlpdubs238]

And also bojack and everyone around is aware he's an asshole and he tries to change every episode

[@unbiasasican]

Exactly, as soon as a character gets close to Bojack they realize he is a jerk, in Velma Daphne, and Fred fall for Velma after interacting a tiny bit with her, feels so forced.

[@DarthZ01]

being adults only doesnt mean mature, and being kid friendly doesnt mean immature. puss in boots 2 managed to have one of the deepest, most mature stories about the fear of death and learning to value your life, while not underestimating the struggles of others. and it literally bleeps its own curse words.

[@isauldron4337]

Death's gambit also did something similar and it's for 16 and older

[@extremelyuncool]

last wish went hard frrr

[@dantdmfangamingrich9802]

@@extremelyuncoolsame I was expecting to hate it because of Dreamworks but I loved it Edit: I hate Disney now and when I said because of Dreamworks it’s because they made boss baby

[@mattyofthenorth]

One of the best movies! How they handled anxiety and death, was really well done

[@animezilla4486]

​@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 I don't like the fact they going to use this film's success to bring Shrek back

[@billcypher1579]

Not-so-Fun fact: the VA for Freds dad in Velma is actually Frank Welker, the VA for Fred in the og show which is kinda nice but to think about it, this guy came back to this franchise and having to be apart of the mess that is this show which kinda sad tbh.

[@itzelwisteria1819]

True. At least Fred's the least hated character (?)

[@yoshig5278]

I genuinely suspect that Welker was forced to be a part of this monstrosity.

[@MrKrueger984]

It's sad that Welker has to deal with being in this monstrosity of a show, for fuck's sake. THIS IS THE VOICE OF DR. CLAW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TOO!

[@acedelta12]

At least he gets a chance to rip the show a new one as best he can.

[@inovakovsky]

@@MrKrueger984Fred did the noises of every bad 1970s Scooby knock-off produced by the same people who did Scooby, such as "Goober and the GhostChasers". Frank has done trash before. It is just a payday.

[@hornedcrusader9485]

One thing I have a problem with Daphne in this show is that her characterization is changed from episode to episode. One episode she's selling drugs a few episodes later she's now a daredevil. All of these are only delved in one episode and rarely talked about again.

[@plumeria1985]

I actually forgot she sold drugs. She... has cop parents. How on earth is that not a bigger plot point?

[@LYNN-id9rb]

And they made her Asian adopted by a lesbian couple

[@elmayiyenmu]

​@@LYNN-id9rbthis is not even scooby doo, it's teen highschool mystery serie wuth scooby doo references lmao.

[@tylerblack3962]

What’s funny is that Scooby-Doo already had an adult episode in the crossover “Scoobynatural”. This is a perfect example that you can in fact bring the gang AND Scooby into a more adult setting while still keeping true to the source material.

[@tonym.8069]

The revelations they had at the end was WILD but made me wish we saw more of that, or the early recent scooby doo movies where the supernatural was actually real to an extent.

[@cinder7258]

Well yeah, because it was an episode of Scooby-Doo! Where are you.

[@AnimeboyIanpower]

I loved that episode!

[@NyaChristopher]

I kid you not, the second I saw this comment I immediately went to find this episode and I just watched it and holy hell those beautiful 41 minutes were light years better than the entirety of Velma. Now inspired to start watching Supernatural so thanks for this comment

[@balsasjekloca9308]

​@@NyaChristopher stick to the first five seasons There's some good episodes and ideas in the later ones, but overall the first five tell a complete story, and the rest is mid

[@craftyadrian]

This show’s biggest crime was making Shaggy (Norville) a beta male. All my homies know Shaggy was the og rizz master.

[@TheDigitalApple]

I can’t get over the fact his head is the shape of a carrot.

[@limeyell0w945]

Rhat rholor is your ScoobyDugati raggy

[@timmy6890]

@@TheDigitalApple lol fr

[@socriabbas454]

Exactly, if you actually see the other series or movies, more often than not Shaggy gets more pussy than Fred does and now they just turn him into a beta male who's the one who seeks pussy

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I would say the bigger crime is what they did to Fred.

[@silverscorpio24]

I think we can all agree that the best bit of the show is when Velma gets hit by a car.

[@angelaplays]

Agreed

[@DaVideo17]

Agreed

[@goharejaz2171]

Agreed

[@CalzoneStudiozOfficial]

Agreed

[@normienormie9425]

Agreed

[@Demonetization_Symbol]

Honestly, embracing someone during a panic attack may even exacerbate it.

[@Galvatronover]

Why ?

[@esbenm6544]

@@Galvatronover SUN Psychiatric Hospital says: Should you touch someone having a panic attack? This is entirely dependent on the person. Some will find comfort in being held and rocked during their panic attacks, others may not want to be touched. *It is very important that you always ask before simply reaching out or hugging someone experiencing a panic attack.*

[@Demonetization_Symbol]

@@Galvatronover they could feel restrained.

[@MasterIsabelle]

@@Galvatronoverwell imagine if you were really scared or in not a great state, and out of nowhere someone touches you like in the form of a hug, that would startle you and in the case of a panic attack make it even worse, one must always ask for consent before hugging someone going through a panic attack

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

@@Galvatronover I can only speak for myself, but when I used to have panic attacks (much better now, btw), it feels like a having a heart attack whilst someone's choking me at the same time. I often lost a chunk of my vision because I couldn't breathe. If someone hugged me then, I probably wouldn't have even recognised them and fought my hardest to get free.

[@espersreverie]

For some reason the show refuses to approach any concept of bisexuality or the idea that you can like both men and women, its always either “Velma is straight” or “Velma is gay” like she cant have both. Shes mentioned repeatedly that she likes both men and women and its painted as a choice she needs to make or an obstacle she needs to get past when like, its not?? Shes bisexual, cool, lets move on

[@hassathunter2464]

Seems accurate to how us B's are treated in "our" community...

[@homuras]

this !!!

[@justaghostinthesea]

That just goes to show how shallow and performative this show's representation is.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

It was weirdos on the internet that started that idea in the first place.

[@twinzzlers]

​@@hassathunter2464I know the LGBLT community doesn't like Bi people, how bad is it really?

[@woodencheck6181]

The entire show is like giving a Lego set to a toddler and watching them destroy it

[@scpfoundation8376]

Jesus I can relate to that in both senses.

[@CalzoneStudiozOfficial]

that's more entertaining honestly

[@dr.fiction7]

I'd say your right, but it's more like a toddler finds that one set that took days to build, one that your immensely proud of, and your mom starts yelling at you to let them play with it because she said so.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

As the one who destroyed my LEGO plane as a child who didn't know better, I can relate.

[@blabbilizer]

@@CalzoneStudiozOfficial Yeah, destroying all my brother and sisters Lego sets was the shit when I was 4

[@Geobot3000]

I watched 10 minutes of velma and immediately had to go rewatch all of mystery incorporated in order to cleanse my brain 😂

[@talkingfez1265]

Me too 1000000%

[@bria.w4073]

I watched be cool Scooby doo just so I can laugh at something that’s actually funny

[@TheJohnnyCotts]

You did better than I did. I only lasted about 3 minutes.

[@aliminator1310]

You should've JUST re-watched Mystery Incorporated, no in-between.

[@acedelta12]

666th upvote

[@DefinitelyBoredOranges]

At times it feels like this show was going to be a random comedy with original characters, but someone higher up decided to shove the scooby doo IP onto the show and the writers had to work with that.

[@phenomenal-flop]

That was literally what happened

[@DefinitelyBoredOranges]

@@phenomenal-flop I'm a genius omg 💀

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

@@phenomenal-flop No joke?

[@phenomenal-flop]

@@PelinalDidNothingWrong For real man, it was something along those lines but if i happen to be wrong i will only speak in the presence of my lawyer

[@MKDumas1981]

I'm almost completely certain that's what was. Kaling said Warner Bros let her look through the catalog of IPs, and they settled on Scooby-Doo, except that they couldn't get the rights to Scooby, Shaggy, and the Mystery Machine.

[@tehnutball]

Velma did something right. It got me to remember how there are far better adaptations like What’s New and Mystery Incorporated to rewatch again. 🙂

[@Saieras]

There are also better old cartoon parodies like the Venture Bros and Harvey Birdman. Whatever this show failed to give you, it exists elsewhere.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

A Pup Named Scooby-Doo is my jam and they should add it to Max already so I can cope with Velma also being on there

[@TDdemeter]

Mystery incorporated & be cool Scooby-Doo are much better

[@inovakovsky]

@@LeopoldLitchenstein I was goona say that A Pup Named Scooby-Doo maybe better comedic episodic deconstruction, though it has been years since I seen an episode, so I am not sure on its execution. This was co-produced by Tom Ruegger who became the showrunner of Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, and Pinkty and the Brain, hence the random, silly, deconstructive humour and semi-expressive animation.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

@jstevinik3261 Pup Named Scooby-Doo deserves more love for Red Herring alone, that gag was always hilarious

[@mushshrews]

that clip of scooby dangling dressed as daphne is deadass funnier than any of the velma clips played

[@lovelycloudyskies]

THAT SCENE WAS GOLD. He wore Velma’s sweater and Daphne’s boots, and all Daphne has to say was “Those boots look better on me!” or something like that. Velma *tries* to be as funny as Scooby-Doo

[@greenbird6435]

Theres a reason why grown adults are tuning into bluey more than adult shows like velma

[@zigmantasbajoras]

@@DeputyDexin What's wrong with Bluey? I thought that it was one of the best-animated shows.

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@DeputyDexin mind backing up that hot take?

[@spinosaurusstriker]

@@DeputyDexin explain my dude, im actually interested in a differe t perspective this time.

[@cyankoopa8111]

@@DeputyDexin I'm pretty interested to hear why you came to that opinion, it's one of the only shows my Nephews like that I can tolerate.

[@CommanderLexaa]

@@DeputyDexin I guess life experiences surprisingly lead to different tastes and different emotional reactions to different media. I have never been able to go past episode 5 of Avatar. And believe me I have tried. I have desperately tried to like it. 😗

[@Trist233]

Can't believe that Infinity Train and Close Enough were killed for this abomination

[@jonathanwilson5355]

Omg don’t even get me started with infinity train man. Still salty about that :,)

[@Ultragamer-xn3nn]

Boondocks too

[@cheesist6998]

@@Ultragamer-xn3nn no way ur lying

[@Ultragamer-xn3nn]

@@cheesist6998 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipupqYt7j7R4qdE

[@Ultragamer-xn3nn]

@@cheesist6998 boondocks was going to have a reboot with two seasons but got cancelled for unknown reasons, it even got confirmed by tom’s voice actor. So if you want to learn more you can watch the link I sent.

[@TheMedicatedArtist]

Can we actually pirate the next season instead of letting the industry think hate-watching is valid?

[@bryandacote8109]

I'd rather no one watches the next season.

[@brainthebrian3690]

I know I and quite a few out there pirate, but when it comes to shows like this this, youtubers need to come together and agree to pirate.

[@dankmemes8254]

Bruh if I pirated this show I would ask for a monetary compensation for watching this shit

[@lmao1660]

Even pirating is giving it traction, don't bother

[@Dave102693]

Someone has to watch it to pirate it.

[@Mkerbug]

They worked so hard to make Fred unlikeable that his stupidity and honesty just made him the most likeable imo

[@thesneakymemedealer5071]

i find it funny that despite being a kids show mystery incorporated still managed to be more mature and respectful of the source material than a ""adult"" show like velma

[@tamooz6649]

Literally it was Y7 rating yet did the triller mystery genre great. Plus Velma being confirmed gay with Hotdog water in the intro

[@AZAtro2648]

Why is it so hard to find a genuinely good adult animated show these days?!

[@dirtyharry0191]

Because the good ones keep getting cancelled

[@davidanthonymercado7064]

Oh we actually had some like Close Enough and Inside Job, but they both got unfairly canned

[@AZAtro2648]

@@davidanthonymercado7064 This is what’s mostly infuriating. The norm has been everything that’s good has been getting booted off and everything that’s bad has been getting milked to death.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

@@dirtyharry0191 Cancel or just forget and ignore actual good things but Bring weird borderline material to the table. I hate the world for that honestly.

[@matsu8518]

Smiling friends is quite good, but most of the time adult animation is generic or pretty shitty.

[@arumaka3662]

The fact that this show gained a prize of "best animated show" in a plataform that canceled half of their animated séries is just rich Its like Quentin Tremblin winning the election because all the other candidates were dead

[@standardhuman8675]

at lease quentin trembly was actually funny

[@balsasjekloca9308]

​@@standardhuman8675 and he was right about one thing... we should fear giant spiders

[@lovelycloudyskies]

They like it because it’s woke and nothing else. Generic plot, bad characters, and terrible writing don’t mean anything. It has to be race, sexuality, and gender.

[@inovakovsky]

@@lovelycloudyskiesNo. Velma got the highest premiere on a platform infamous from being pricey. It would be difficult to keep long-running shows, which would pay raise the staff for every new season, with an already limited subscriber base. Hence, why South Park and Its Always Sunny are the longest running cable shows: they are cheap. The Simpsons and Family Guy are on broadcast TV, no subscription fee, and last for years despite higher budgets. The reason why Velema got high views is because negative word of mouth caused people (including middle-aged Republicans who take Tucker Carlson seriously, not just terminally online Millennials and Gen Z'ers) to hate watch it. Other shows like Close Enough, proposed Boondocks reboot, Final Space, never got a fraction of the publicity.

[@frtzkng]

@@lovelycloudyskies It's not even woke, it's the devil the Alt-Right paints on the wall and calls _woke_

[@itsmefm]

Did y'all know Mindy Kailing's brother was the guy who faked being black so he could get into college? Just a fun fact.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

You know that Mindy kailing sexually assault a coworker? Also fun fact

[@kingofcards9]

Dam, maybe forcing diversity isn't actually a good idea. Whoda thought?

[@typonumber8939]

This is more of a blunder of the educational system to be honest

[@REDDAWNproject]

actually kinda based.

[@anikagh]

i love mindy kallings brother

[@MildraTheMonkVT]

The best way to describe the show: "Scooby-Doo as written by Brian from Family Guy"

[@MKDumas1981]

I think Brian would do a better job than this.

[@alysssabear]

@@MKDumas1981 Debatable

[@bonedude666]

Season 5+ Brian. Brian from seasons 1-4 would write something so much better.

[@fandroid6491]

@@MKDumas1981 Assuming that he's from earlier seasons. Any later than that and you get this mess

[@wildwesley9328]

It’s easy to be the biggest animated release on your streaming service when you both have very few animated releases and kill all the other animated properties you already had.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Also, Cartoonshi, Hollywood isn't beating the allegations, they're beating _off in spite of_ the allegations.

[@trelltastic67]

Oh God

[@TheDigitalApple]

The only good thing Velma has done was bringing the internet together and agreeing on how shit it is!

[@carcrashereal]

and the animation as well as the hallucination scenes other than that bad show jolly bad show

[@ivorynk752]

@@carcrashereal It's like the inverse of be cool scooby doo. Horrible characterization, decent artsyle.

[@cinder7258]

@@ivorynk752 yes

[@johannesseyfried7933]

And it seemed to have sparked a new interest in Mystery Incorporated.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Lol that's how it seems to me

[@heyou2424]

Its absolutely fascinating how smug this show is I dont know how else to describe it. Like every time I hear about a "joke" from this series I feel like someone trying to elbow me with knives with them screaming "GET IT?". I am surprised you didnt go in on the reason why they took out Scooby being that they thought it would make it too kid friendly even though Family Guy, one of the most popular adult cartoons to exist, has a talking dog.

[@chimp4225]

Brian look out!

[@dannysmi7162]

Probably because the reason doesn’t make sense so it’s essentially nothing.

[@SpringDavid]

I like how every positive point towards this show can be resumed as: -I laughed at (number below 5) jokes -the animation crew is just being wasted

[@ThungStudios]

The beef with therapists/counselors is so bizarre lmfao

[@thomashanson9173]

Kailing might see herself as some hardcore individualist whose mind is strong enought not need those petty bueracrats.

[@Nockgun]

@@thomashanson9173 true individualist leave people alone and does not had any stupid agenda in mind

[@thomashanson9173]

@@Nockgun For Kailing, that's not a contraditction. Freedom for herself, judgement for everyone else.

[@Nockgun]

@@thomashanson9173 thats an egotist.

[@ProlMLGJoe]

@@thomashanson9173 >hardcore individualist That explains shit

[@RogueFox2185]

The best character without a doubt was the Sheriff, he could have saved the town if he backed up after running over Velma Kaling and finished the job. Gigi was also not bad as I expected her to be from what I’ve seen, she just belongs in a much better show.

[@typonumber8939]

Well I have news for you

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

My old fellow Thor Skywalker (etc) watcher! (Missing my 2003 Anakin Skywalker pic)

[@HuzayefIbre]

For me personally the best character was the air. It went through so much trauma having to make the cast breath and not just let them die was very bold of the air to do

[@Es_gee]

​@@HuzayefIbre💀💀 Velmas stepmom was a bit tolerable to say the least

[@mauriceisaac3646]

She’s not Velma. It’s Mindy Kaling doing cosplay.

[@judebaun9993]

Fax.

[@TheMadcap919]

That’s the moment when you realize that this show isn’t a reboot of scooby doo. It isn’t a parody of scooby doo. It’s essentially Mindy Kaling’s fan fiction of scooby doo. (I’ve made fanfics before, so I’m not pretending like I’m better than her). I’m only pointing out that when you think about, this show is not a reboot of scooby doo, it doesn’t even have scooby doo in it. Also, spot on comment you made. Sums up the show quite well.

[@Knux5577]

@@TheMadcap919 There's probably fanfics better than this lol

[@TheMadcap919]

@@Knux5577Yeah, and that’s kinda sad really.

[@imaghost2961]

@@Knux5577Knuckles knows what’s up lol.

[@sharkbyte1565]

Fun fact the reason they didn't add Scooby was because they thought a talking dog was "too kid friendly" Ever heard of Brian Griffin from family guy? Or Mr peanut butter from Bojack horseman?

[@garrettcooper58]

Ruh roh, raggy, our new show is shit! Like, you’re right scooby! I’m, like, so glad you weren’t a part of it. I mean, like, look at me man, I’m now just a simp for Velma.

[@rakdos36]

Yeah but that doesnt matter as i was told the higher ups actually forbad them using him and they were okay with that because of said reason.

[@jsweatt354]

@@rakdos36 Yet they were okay with showing humping cockroaches.

[@rakdos36]

@@jsweatt354 Probably because they watched it and never will.

[@forbiddenbanana9255]

Or Mister Pickles

[@minespatch]

I think you're the first reviewer to point out Scooby Doo's skeleton under the ground. Feels very bad in taste just like how Thundercats Roar had the skeleton of a character under the ground as a middle finger to the voice actor and audience.

[@olinroux6702]

That was a teen titans go episode based on Roar.

[@nathanielpatterson-rc9dq]

If the creators of Scooby Doo were alive today, they'd say "look how they massacred our boy."

[@mileslugo6430]

I've heard someone call Velma the combined character of Rick and Morty. For trying to be both cynical and sympathetic at the same time and not realizing why she's not everyone's favorite character

[@lovelycloudyskies]

@FamineTheDeerwolf the older versions of Velma were my favorite characters, because she was a sarcastic but caring nerd who never had beef with Daphne, insulted Fred, or shove Shaggy away because they were her friends.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

People who think that "hate-watching got the show its second season" don't know how network contracts work.

[@Demonetization_Symbol]

So how do they work?

[@jdizzy192]

@@Demonetization_Symbol Usually shows are greenlit for a number of episodes, months in advance. Most network deals only extende for a season or two worth of episodes but for trusted IPs they can get approved for multi season deals. Swhy the second season announcement for Velma came so quickly, WB was just waiting for the viewer count of episodes 1 and 2

[@ivorynk752]

Particularly with animation, it is a slow process so most companies will start making the second season before they see how the first one pans out to get a head start. However I heard that they got a third season approved, so hate watching may have done that.

[@ntfoperative9432]

Plus even if it did, that's just money down the drain, since most hate watchers stop on the first season, which means the seconds probably gonna have little to no viewership

[@BabyGirlTiny]

You say that, but shows get cancelled all the time. Like, you’re sitting here acting like that same network didn’t cancel a bunch of shows already that had the viewership

[@icanbreatheandithurts]

The most valuable thing about Velma is that is like The Emoji Movie, a dystopic tale, an urban legend of where the industry was heading if we didn't try to stop it and if it was too late, we couldn't have our voices listened ever again. This is the confirmation.

[@butterpants8153]

The Emoji Movie is honestly better than this shit

[@yourweirduncle4441]

Was emoji movie really that bad

[@michaelbirkinshaw8523]

Yes...yes it was that bad

[@redpanda6497]

@@yourweirduncle4441 Yep.

[@lovelycloudyskies]

@@redpanda6497 It was boring, but it’s basically gold compared to Velma

[@kemaroliver7474]

Norville= Mordecai from Regular Show Both simped over one female for half of their story arc, got another relationship with someone else, finally both were still hung up on the first girl so much, it ruined the second relationship they were in

[@latviandragon2718]

atleast the norville arc was shorter

[@demgozellegs]

Velma show: WE'RE MORE MATURE THAN OTHER ANIMATED SHOWS AND MOVIES Puss in Boots The Last Wish: Hold my milk

[@noragamilover101rosadelamu5]

Correction Puss in Boots: Hold my *leche*🙂

[@Nfshotpursuitking]

BoJack Horseman, Venture Bros, Daria. All great solid animations that people keep bringing up when it comes to this dumpster fire and I'm so happy these greats shows are getting more exposure due to how bad Velma is at imitating any of it

[@calebwashere]

You people owe Be Cool Scooby Doo an apology

[@bomberman9296]

I'm sorry be cool scooby doo your no longer a bad show your a good show

[@Azelf89]

Be Cool Scooby Doo's only sin was its artstyle. That's it.

[@prettysunk]

I find it funny it just looked like freaking family guy

[@GlitchyOnAChair]

@@bomberman9296 you guys made it a bad show because of the art style

[@FlatAssTruther]

The little bit of it I saw was funny but the artstyle just makes me think Fred is gonna look at the camera and say "Aw jeez, gang, this i worse than that one time that I-"

[@TURPEG]

You Can't Unscooby Doo What Has Already Been Scooby Done.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

Those live-action Cartoon Network movies from the late 2000s were a far better origin story than Velma is. At least those didn't have contempt towards their own audience and were just forgettable.

[@ShrumpDump]

This show can best be described as if Harley Quinn, Big Mouth, and Riverdale had a child

[@Knux5577]

Maybe but even Harley Quinn is more entertaining and consistent than this

[@TeamChaosPrez]

i just want to note that hugging or embracing someone during a panic attack is fine under SOME circumstances. my fiance holding me is super grounding when i'm having an episode.

[@plague_doctor0237]

The important thing is that you KNOW if you can do that or not

[@LilBigJosiah]

Welcome to another episode for this week of “how much will toonshi change his censoring sound”

[@XTHHedgehog]

I think if I did watch this show, that scene where Velma laughs at Norville for confessing AND it relieves her of the panic attack is where I would stop. Very few things offend me in this world, but something like that is one of them.

[@Ibrimstone]

He straight up admitted to piracy I’m subbing

[@dice_block]

Toxic

[@solaireofastora6173]

Respect+

[@ProlMLGJoe]

Piracy is based.

[@Ibrimstone]

@@ProlMLGJoe indeed, in most cases

[@RetroReviewsMovies]

I think Norville’s character might’ve worked if he slowly developed into Shaggy as the show goes on. Perhaps about halfway through season 1, he would try drugs, then in the finale maybe he gets a dog called Scooby and he’s started forgetting about his responsibilities. Then in season 2 (which they already got renewed for) we see him acting more impulsively, even getting a new haircut like the original Shaggy. Only in the finale, he would finally start calling himself Shaggy due to an epiphany he had while high. Not only would this be an improvement as it gives him a character arc, which he lacks in this iteration, but it also coincides with the darker attempts at being subversive that the rest of the show tries to implement.

[@ProlMLGJoe]

This

[@THEnicholasvancosky]

is

[@ntinosgkougkoulias7271]

amazing

[@playathesaints9599]

@@ntinosgkougkoulias7271 , yes!

[@LYNN-id9rb]

And didn't make him black

[@cuddlecakes7153]

As I've grown up, I've seen so much hate for Mystery Incorporated, so you don't understand how happy I am to see it get the recognition it deserves. Thank you

[@blinkyreviews]

Velma makes the Scooby-Doo live action films look like a masterpiece

[@theresaguyonyourdoortrying4662]

at least live action films tired to stay more faithful to the franchise.

[@blinkyreviews]

@@theresaguyonyourdoortrying4662 EXACTLY but Velma doesn’t, that’s why I don’t like the show.

[@millerkarageanes1562]

Which is kinda sad if you think about

[@blinkyreviews]

@@GaryMood10 I don’t hate the live action films, I think they’re alright, but I rather watch them instead of Velma because at least the live action films feels like your watching Scooby-Doo.

[@ayrtonjoga]

Ironically the first 2 live action movies were already a parody of the series, making fun of it's tropes and had some adult innuendos, but was still faithful to the source material, it respected the fans and the casting was perfect Even those cheesy af movies from the early 2000s did a better job than this Velma show

[@keyscored3710]

I just know this is gonna be good because you're one of the few cartoon reviewers with over 20 brain cells

[@chunkyking8225]

You have my respect putting yourself through this torture

[@TooMuchDog101]

I love how my therapists literally saved my life and they’re mocking mental health. Mental health is a lot deeper than anyone thinks it is and I don’t think this show should even think about talking about it when they can’t even talk about feminism in a progressive way without making it sound like “oooooh women hate men” (Yes I liked my own comment)

[@ProlMLGJoe]

Mindy KKKaling being ableist? I am shocked!

[@GoldenKirby]

OH MY GOD THEY LIKED THEIR OWN COMMENT!!!!!!!!!! IM ABSOLUTELY LOSING MY MIND HERE!!!!

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

People have pointed out that there's a book out there of a woman's experience of a year pretending to be a man. She discovered life wasn't so easy and actually felt very alone as a man. She would later commit suicide. So yeah,really shit social commentary

[@BaysidePark]

Let me remind you that Infinity Train and Summer Camp Island got removed with HBO Max's content purge, yet this was not only allowed by HBO but was greenlit for a second season. I don't know about you but that sure makes me feel good! **Sarcasm**

[@lsebastian9086]

Yeah, this fully invigorated me the trust on Zazalav the cartoon butcherer. ...seriously, worthy shows get screwed yet awful trash gets the attention.

[@thomaspig7684]

Imagine the next season comes out and they listened to criticism and it just becomes one of the best and most critically acclaimed animated TV shows of all time.

[@frtzkng]

Given how self absorbed the alleged brains behind the show, Mindy Kaling, is, expect 10 episode of the show teabagging its own audience

[@nintendoboy3605]

Thing is if this is meant to be an origin story then Scooby needs to be introduced eventually (and I don't mean the code name being made Scoobi I mean the actual Scooby) otherwise the question of how Scooby got in will never be answered. It's like having a Sonic the Hedgehog story without having Sonic at all.

[@frtzkng]

On 11:07. Hugging or embracing someone during a panic attack is awful. _Kissing_ them, especially if you did not kiss them before, is borderline sexual assault. *Do not do that. Ever.*

[@tenkql]

Huh? I literally have an anxiety disorder and I find comfort in being hugged during a panic attack. As long as consent is properly given I don't see why this is some sort of evil crime to you lol The only time I see this as an issue is if its done without asking or when boundaries haven't been set in the person's right state of mind. Specify before making blanket statements like this, I beg!

[@HolyApplebutter]

I "watched" the first two episodes of Velma through EFAP's coverage, and the thing I always say about Velma that puts it on such a low tier is that a lot of the jokes are just bewildering. Like, Paradise PD may not be funny, but at least I can understand a joke being made and what the writers were going for when making it. But with Velma, I don't even know how to react other than confused. One of the more prominent jokes was something along the lines of, "Well at least I'm not an alcoholic mom losing custody of my kids like all other women solving crimes." Like, is that a dig on some stereotype I'm unaware of? A writing trope? Is that what happens to a lot of female investigators IRL? It's just bewildering.

[@yttrash565]

I had the same reaction to the "lesbian cops are good detectives" joke. I couldn't think of a single lesbian cop character so what trope is she talking about?

[@ajflink]

I have had panic attacks. Velma does an EXTREMELY poor job at portraying what panic attack is like. You don't start hallucinating. Think of the worst moment in your life. Have that moment vividly in explicit detail in your mind play on repeat. Have thoughts that progressively make your thoughts feed into your anxiety making it worse and worse. You breath rapidly. You can feel your pulse. You feel like everyone is out to get you and your life is actually over, but not with your death. You cry uncontrollably, even after calming down some. Your sense feel heightened, but not for your benefit. Things look slightly dull in color. All these are what a panic attack actually feels like and how I can verbally describe it. You don't snap out of it because you find something funny. In truth, in that state of mind, it is nearly impossible to find anything funny, especially if you feel like you are trapped or are in a situation where you cannot simply leave without explaining yourself. To the writer and director, I hope you become jobless and/or homeless. This is beyond offense. It is dangerous and will lead some dumb people to think this is how you help some experiencing a panic attack. You help someone with a panic attack by constantly comforting with words and sincerely tell him or her that he or she will be alright or things will be alright sincerely. Not doing anything for a person experiencing a panic attack is the worst thing you can do since he or she will confirm his or her delusional that no one loves him or her and he or she is truly alone.

[@bumbabees]

i completely agree. its extremely obvious in the way things like this are portrayed, whether they are being portrayed by someone whos experienced it before, or hasnt. this is clearly made by someone who doesnt know a damn thing about it. and its annoying, because pretty much all mental issues have some sort of stigma around them, and dumb shit like this just adds to it.

[@Knux5577]

IT would be more accurate for her to hear everytime someone has called her awful or that they hate her and possibly show some small flashbacks

[@ajflink]

@@Knux5577 Yep.

[@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185]

Giving this show any credit is stupid but every devil needs it's advocate I guess. Velma *technically* isn't having a panic attack, she's having a hypnosis induced hallucination.

[@ajflink]

@@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 And a counterargument would be that: Do you think knowing the track record of the main people behind the show that they actually thought that out? I mean you are right. She is technically not having a true panic attack. However, the show seems to be explicitly declaring at many points, excluding the end, that this is a sincere panic attack. Also, you could say that Velma's "panic attack" is caused by seeming the hallucinations themselves. In that case, still, trying to make the person having the panic attack laugh is a terrible and pointless thing to do. Regardless, they still treat the subject of something like panic attack as a joke. With the revelation that she was hallucinating, the writers of the show are coming across as: "See! She wasn't have a panic attack! She was experiencing vivid panic inducing hallucinations! Isn't that funny?! XD"

[@monkiking778]

He sacrificed hims sanity for us we will not forget it Love you sempi toonshi

[@sonofastudstudios4552]

Two Velma reviews in one day, I’m impressed. (Btw the first one was from a channel called dumbsville.)

[@millerkarageanes1562]

3 sarcastic chorus did one too

[@juzzyjuzz9108]

SHUT UP THE AWESTRUCK VOX THING HAD ME HOLLERING 😭😭💀 amazing video, felt great to watch it while I drew lol

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

If they wanted Velma to be all edgy, sassy, sarcastic, and obsessively adult, they should have at least had her voiced by Cree Summer. A MUCH better sarcastic and sassy actress than Mindy

[@anerdyrat]

I'm so glad someone mentioned how similar daphney's story from Velma and Fred's story from mystery inc was.

[@fake-king3837]

Not really a love triangle, for a love explosion. As the majority of the characters relationship is either hating each other or hate/loving Velma.

[@silashurd3597]

I’m sure we all agree with this show being complete DUMPSTER FIRE!😤😖

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

the latest Bullshit on top of horse shit on top of cow shit that someone decided to set on fire.

[@DroppedBass]

Nah, most people just aren't advanced enough human beings to understand this show. Most people think it is supposed to be a comedy, for Christ's sake.

[@projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762]

@@DroppedBass nah, it's garbage!

[@lovelycloudyskies]

@@DroppedBass even the most idiotic people with an IQ of a peanut know that this show sucks.

[@LYNN-id9rb]

Too bad nobody is really talking about the terrible race changes

[@zombifiedpariah7392]

2:14 Huge missed opportunity to insert that clip of fake Shaggy saying he doesn't like drugs then stares at the camera.

[@themightychespin5700]

So there I was. Driving to work at 3 am, chugging coffee to survive the drive. Then Cartoonshi drops the line, "Your life serves zero purpose." I cracked up laughing. That delivery was excellent

[@themugwump33]

“Let’s do Scooby Doo in the style of Always Sunny! People are sick and tired of selfless friends who stick together. You know what’s so hot right now? Twitter and meta jokes! Yeah! Let’s do Scooby Doo for the Twitter generation! Out with the heart, in with the snark! Emmeright??” - Velma Producers, probably.

[@aliteralblueberry7837]

The only time the show was good is when Norville called Velma the b word and a fake friend

[@pharosra9699]

24:23 has to be my new favorite gif. Banger video with steller editing as always, Cartoonshi! Get a good laugh every video.

[@ElectrikStatik900]

0:04 that ltg edit actually makes that joke funny

[@Gab3S0lan0]

Thing about ADHD is that if you're interested in what you are creating then it comes out polished, but if not, the project can often go half-asses or unfinished. So i guess i could believe the creators have ADHD if they did truly not like what they created.

[@Numbuh8578]

I think scooby could've just been a normal dog In this show and would be Norvill's emotional support animal

[@Knux5577]

they could've gone down an arc about him supposedly hearing the dog talk but he actually doesn't and everyone kinda just never said anything about him talking to no one basically.

[@miguelescobedo5112]

HBO Max Velma is basically undefendable at this point and I bet it's gonna be on everyone's worst cartoon lists.

[@spacewhaler]

The art direction was genuinely amazing tho

[@professorgreenbeans8275]

(Spoiler warning, but who gives a shit) Me and my friend watched through this series while I was sleep deprived, and when Norville (Not-Shaggy) confessed his love, only for Velma to say “What do you mean? You’re like a brother to me.”, we both clutched our hearts and fell over in pain

[@MurderTwink]

Let me sum this entire video up this entire video in 3 words : watch mystery incorporated

[@josiahtheawkward6008]

“Okay what is our most popular shows right now on HBO Max?” “Umm right now it’s Euphoria, *CARTOON REDACTED* and our Scooby-Doo projects” “Okay… what if we combined those two shows for more profit? Who cares how polarizing the concept will be? It will be a success!!” And the worst part is that it worked.

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

Why is Euphoria popular. Never understood the appeal

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

Scooby Doo *_project._* Scoob 2 and a Hex Girls movie was scrapped.

[@clintronnow264]

This show has my full undivided indifference.

[@degen7278]

10:23, how dare you. Velma makes robot chicken sketches actually thought provoking and cinematic. Atleast those characters are better written. Edit: that oblivion reference made me choke on diet pepsi god damn it.

[@randomshq4249]

When I first heard of this show and how it was going to be for adults and its going to be horror and focused on Velma I was exited. I was expecting the snarky but funny and smart Velma we all knew and loved that cared about her friends no matter what. then I saw fake shaggy. expectations went lower and lower the more I saw the cast of the new group named after the cartoon characters I grew up watching. I only saw reviews of this show and my god I'm so glad I never spent money to watch it. The edits you made made me laugh and smile, your jokes are 10x better and im so glad you told people to watch mystery inc 10/10 video, good luck recovering my good man

[@cleodoesstuff8248]

there was only one singular time Velma made me laugh and it was with a background visual gag in episode two. the 'debate club' arguing with 'the better debate club' genuinely got a chuckle out of me. that was it.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Oh yeah, you forgot to mention that Victoria (the main antagonist) hypnotized Velma (after kidnapping her mother) into getting all those anti-mystery hallucinations. So, uh...yaaaaayyyyy, it was neeeeever Velma's fault aaaaafter allllllll.

[@josiahtheawkward6008]

At least the visuals look good. Kinda makes me feel bad that all that talent was for… this.

[@BiigiieCheeese]

If Norville was LTG this show would be amazing. Every other line would be him monologuing abt how big of a d-rider Velma is and how Fred should Kermit Kermicide

[@lmao1660]

Kermit Kermicide XD

[@ruyfire6913]

"what did scoobi do?" i just flatlined and i wish i stayed flatlined right there

[@cooldude-qz1gf]

The title is like saying that the sky is blue or that youtube makes horrible moves that make the platform worse: its a factual statement

[@escopeto7849]

I've watched this before work, and you've motivated me a LOT! The argument, the bgm, the analysis... Brilliant! Thank you, Sir! Get yourself some M&M's🍫

[@Evets_03]

Your sacrifice will not be in vain

[@SSKO2]

Velma makes the other crappy iterations of scooby doo look like a masterpiece

[@ST4_BBY]

velma made people look at be cool scooby doo and say “perhaps I treated you too harshly”

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Truly. Well maybe not for me but it sure does to those who hated on them back then and saying "perhaps I had treated you wrongly" or whatever that catch phrase is people memingly say.

[@bomberman9296]

Heck shaggy and scooby doo get a clue is better than velma

[@petergriffin-tu6ug]

@@ST4_BBY yeah....also that show underratted

[@lovelycloudyskies]

@@bomberman9296 I remember Shaggy having longer hair in that show.

[@anonimni1288]

When me and my family watched the scene where Velma gets hit by a car we all jumped out of our seats and started clapping truly an inspiring moment

[@WylieCanAnimate]

They really did my boi Shaggy dirty.

[@imyourdaddy5822]

To be fair he's the only decent character in the show.

[@MinMin4theWinWin]

Tbh I was half expecting them to take a teens brain and put it into a dog making their own Scooby-Doo

[@ShaquilleOatz]

I wouldn’t say Velma is full out gay, I’d say she’s bi at best because if we’re going by the latest movie then we would also have to acknowledge her relation with shaggy in the show and that she tried to get with Johnny Bravo

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

I love the fact that Fred has special needs has state in the series, also for the fact that he didn't go through puberty Anf the shows that notes of it, and continues to make fun of him

[@sandystudios223]

That thing about Fred offends me so much, I hate it!

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

Fred has been implied to be on the spectrum since the early 2000s

[@imyourdaddy5822]

Yeah basically they spent the whole show picking on a special needs kid.

[@omegabrain230]

Honestly imagine if this somehow gets demonised because yt are going full scorched earth on content then all of this will be for nothing

[@herobrine3245]

This show would have redeemed itself if there was a scene where Velma says its Velmin time and Velmed all over the place

[@MKDumas1981]

It's Vermin' Time*

[@beancraver4048]

If they did that I would follow Johny Silverhands advice and stick some iron in my mouth

[@chocoholicbatloverstudios]

That actually would’ve been kinda funny, ngl 😆

[@this_is_Muffin]

@@MKDumas1981 Warhammer Vermintide?