Nostalgia Critic Real Thoughts On - FernGully

[@MTTT19]

I'm not the biggest fan of this movie. However, there are two things I love in this Movie: Robin Williams and Tim Curry!

[@evil_regal]

when Batty used the phrase numb from the brain down... perfect! that applies to most people.

[@blademasterbex]

amen

[@dalime605]

YES

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

t..t..to..tot..toxic gas :)

[@JamesTullos]

I thought Tim Curry's character was pretty good. He didn't have any depth, but he was well-acted, had a great design, and was actually pretty intimidating.

[@seanbinkley7363]

"Just AIDS everywhere! AIDS ! AIDS! AIDS!" Rob Walker describes the 80s.

[@thirdysaruca]

And RENT too

[@Usagi393]

Fun fact, AIDS was so ubiquitous in the '80s, you could get it just by looking at a toilet seat

[@tinyj4520]

I got it eating bagels next to a gay guy.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

AIDS, COCAINE, REAGAN, and MICHAEL JACKSON

[@battleupsaber462]

Try peanut butter AIDS

[@benthebenevolent1001]

I heard an interesting interpretation of Fern Gully once. Think of it as a Story of the Man Who Learnt Better. A man thought an alien environment (the rainforest) was just there for him to benefit. Then, a romantic interest takes him by the hand and shows him the forest is a thing in itself that is valid in its own right. He even saw the forest warts-and-all- one of its denizens was insane, and another hated his guts. Nonetheless, he recognised it has a right to exist, even if it is easy for him to make money from it. My criticism? The change in attitude's the easy part. What does he do next?

[@darkblood626]

Sliiime beneath me- MMMM- Sliiiime up above. You. will. love. my. [insert oddly sexual noises] Toxic love.

[@5carecrow94]

You could pretty much put "insert oddly sexual noises" in place of anything Tim Curry says.

[@Tareltonlives]

Tim Curry and Robin Williams are too good for this movie....

[@darkblood626]

***** Yea but the children watching this movie for the first time wouldn’t know that.

[@joldsaway3489]

+5carecrow94 They all... FLOOOOAAAATTTT!!!

[@BatSnakegirl]

Fun fact: Ferngully the movie was based on a book. A fairly short book with a lot less Hexxus popping up through the story. But it was incredibly similar save for a several omitted scenes and characters (including Kyrsta's mother and sisters). And yes. The book even had the characters sing. Including the Bat Rap.

[@robertocamacho1814]

I would have never guessed in a million years that of all things including the Bat Rap was the filmmaker’s attempt of staying true to the original source material 😂

[@BoboTalkClown]

the rainforest is pretty important, to be fair

[@BloodyRomance1313]

But in the movie they never explain WHY it's important other than "trees good-humans bad". If you want people to change you have to tell them why. That's how I see it I guess.

[@lpatterson787]

+BloodyRomance1313 It wasn't humans bad. It was pollution bad. That's why Tim Curry is the villain, and the humans come to realize the damage they are doing. (Before they saw it as just another job.) The humans choose not to continue the deforestation at the end.

[@thirteenfury]

+Kairu Hakubi Raising cattle was unnecessary to begin with. The Amazon in particular has several species of wild pigs that would make good livestock and several species of fish that are far bigger and meatier than most fish we're used to eating in the Northern Hemisphere. The pigs wouldn't even need pastures, just let them roam through natural forest clearings; and aquaculture/fisheries are an important food source these days. Not to mention the rubber boom and banana republics that were unique to South and Central America. With a more humanitarian focus for worker's rights and better rationing of rubber trees and wild banana trees, we could have a rubber boom and banana republic again.

[@thirteenfury]

+Kairu Hakubi Raising cattle was unnecessary to begin with. The Amazon in particular has several species of wild pigs that would make good livestock and several species of fish that are far bigger and meatier than most fish we're used to eating in the Northern Hemisphere. The pigs wouldn't even need pastures, just let them roam through natural forest clearings; and aquaculture/fisheries are an important food source these days. Not to mention the rubber boom and banana republics that were unique to South and Central America. With a more humanitarian focus for worker's rights and better rationing of rubber trees and wild banana trees, we could have a rubber boom and banana republic again.

[@thirteenfury]

+Kairu Hakubi I meant more for the local economy and food supply, not so much globally, but I see your point. I'm making an argument for sustainability by raising animals and growing crops based on the local environment. Subsaharan Africa has similar issues with deforestation to grow sugar cane, corn/maize, and wheat. Tbh, the health of livestock in the US isn't much better off as far as those raised in factory farms, which is about 98% of the meat we have access to on a daily basis.

[@corex1392]

My favorite scenes was the ones with Tim Curry as Hexxus! And the scene where he dies and then comes back as a flaming black skeleton was always my favorite part!

[@GamingSuccub]

I see so much hate for this movie. I dont understand it. Its been a childhood favorite of mine. Its not great, but I always had a soft spot for it.

[@zaphero5518]

I see the opposite. I didn't really enjoy the movie and everyone else seems to say it's good. There's just not much substance to the movie, though.

[@NolaFiona]

OMG me too

[@GamingSuccub]

Zaph Ior I can understand that. I dont think its anything groundbreaking for sure.

[@ripthischannel5947]

"I like it, therefore it's good and must be good to everybody. And that's the law."

[@zaphero5518]

+MiyuChan It's perfectly fine to like it of course, I just find it helpful to understand other's reasons and my reasons for such.

[@nataliekmaguire]

I remember seeing this film when I was 3 and loving it. Honestly, my sister and I still think it's awesome because of our nostalgic attachment. It's this incredible time capsule of the 80's - the hair styles, the language used, the music, the themes. Plus, I love Robin William's voice work (I actually found his completely random phrases hilarious) and ohhhhh... what an introduction to Tim Curry. Even as a child, I thought he was the coolest character. I'm not expecting to change Rob and Doug's minds, but even after this, they still haven't changed mine.

[@vguyver2]

You guys suddenly became my heroes with your offensive remarks. XD

[@melvinsteell5878]

yessss

[@Nasser851000]

with his loud knuckles XD

[@abcdefgold]

what offensive remarks?

[@calispice]

There were no offense remarks

[@TheSamiryoussef]

Real thoughts on the Animated Titanic Movies...

[@Tech-Kaplan-Kali]

I'm not sure if video of dough reapting words 'It's SHIT!' for 20 minutes would be entertaining.

[@thecringepatrol7875]

What are you talking about That would be amazing

[@MountC]

I think there is a bit more to say about them. The first film is all over the place and could be considered so-bad-it's-good, but the second film is a complete slap in the face to everyone who died on the Titanic and their families trying to pin the blame of the accident on a specific group of people and claiming nobody actually died.

[@Megamanlanprime]

DO IT GUYS!

[@melvinsteell5878]

+Nikodimos Triaridis omg yes

[@johnt.campbell316]

It's awesome you guys addressed the "gang mentality" at around the 20:20 mark. Not picking a side is a good way to go. When it comes to facts, I prefer to be on the "right side" of the subject. The problem is, when people start talking about a subject they disagree on, they think they have to *hate* each other because of it. I don't know where this stupid thought process came from, but it's stupid. No matter how big a problem is, you don't have to hate, or think the person you disagree with is stupid.

[@adamdavis1648]

But what the person you disagree with believes something objectively false or immoral? Also, their argument seems to boil down to "we don't take stances on the issues that are based on what policies would likely have the best outcome. We just like being in the middle because there are people we don't like on both sides."

[@johnt.campbell316]

@@adamdavis1648 some things that people are "wrong" about, they have to disagree with the entire scientific community, or go against what reality informs. In those cases, yes, they are indeed VERY stupid and deserve to be told that they are. You don't just disagree with all scientists and say "that's just how I feel about it." No, it isn't. You just don't like that an entire community of experts can tell you how and why you are wrong. Those cases are different.

[@adamdavis1648]

@@johnt.campbell316 Well, in American politics the right almost universally goes against what reality informs and the people who acknowledge facts are almost all on the left, so what the Walkers said here is pretty dumb.

[@TheSodorFilms]

If you want a great environmental message, watch the clip from the George Carlin special, "Jammin' In New York." There's a piece of material in there called, "The Planet Is Fine, The People Are Fucked." And I'm quote by George Carlin: Everybody's running around trying to save the planet. The planet doesn't need that. The planet will take care of itself. People are selfish, and that's what they're doing, is trying to save the planet for themselves to have a nice place to live. They don't care about the planet in theory. They just care about having a comfortable place and these people with the fires and the floods and everything, they overbuild, they put nature to the test, and they get what's coming to them. That's what I say. That's what's happening. I can't wait for the sea levels to rise, I can't wait to see these cities disappear, there are places that are gonna go away, the map is gonna change, and that's because people think nature's outside of them. They don't take in the idea that we're a part of it. They say, "Oh, we're going for a nature walk. We're going to the country because we like nature." Nature's in here, and if you're in two with it like the Indians, the Hopis especially, the balance of life, the harmony of nature, if you understand that, you don't overbuild, you don't do all this moron stuff. It's a symphony, everyone's in the band, you know, it's not just one group.

[@TheSodorFilms]

Or if you want an actual environmental message, go watch WALL-E.

[@mentaya11]

It's a fair point, but it's also sadly unrealistic. I think the Lorax put it pretty well. He asks "Well, what should I do? Should I fire all these people, close down my factories?" The Lorax responds "Well, I see your point, but I don't know the answer." The problem is, as nice as living in perfect harmony with nature is, and I agree that's a goal we should work towards, and 95% of that quote is completely true, we simply can't do it in the same way as the Native Americans. Even if we could, people are singly the most effective at destroying *and* restoring the world around us. Unless *everyone* agreed to chip in and live that kind of life, which many would be unwilling to do, they've gotten so used to their creature comforts, we couldn't get by with such a passive attitude. We would *have* to work on restoration as well. I think I'll stop here before I go into full rant mode. I am an environmental scientist. This is kind of a passion of mine, and I don't even know if people will read this.

[@DAMIENDMILLS]

They talk about the environment the majority of the video. Skip to 29:21 they finally talk about the movie.

[@grobanlover292]

It takes them that long?

[@cypher515]

I'm hearing stuff about the movie at 15 minutes. You're exaggerating.

[@timthememer2785]

You mean 11:15 ish

[@LydiaTarine12]

'Save the rainforest' turned into a more general statement: 'Stop deforestation.' And what about the hole in the ozone thing? When was that a big deal?

[@kendromeda42]

That was about 2000-2006 with al gore.

[@LydiaTarine12]

Thanks! ^.^ That explains why I remember it so well. It was my high school/early college years. XD

[@killerbee2562]

The ozone thing was about cfc used as propellant in spay cans that literally ate away at the ozone, they stopped using it and the ozone has regenerated to a degree.

[@seansweeney3365]

+Silver Charters I was class of 97 and I gotta tell you I remember the whole in the ozone from childhood on. They were talking about it in the eighties and the talk got to fever pitch in the nineties. This issue has been around well before the 2000's.

[@ndingo]

it took you and robert 11:25 to talk about fern fuckin gully

[@archangel1547]

I love the dynamic between Doug and Rob.

[@howardroark3208]

The rain forest is still a specific gripe the main argument is to preserve species for research, the cause cited for current deforestation is to make grassland for beef.

[@joshuagannon6566]

A Miyazaki remake of Fern Gully would be worth watching.

[@chocodoeeyes]

Does Princess Mononoke count?

[@GothicXlightning]

this movie does not need a remake, not even miyazaki could improved & yes I know how great miyazaki also is, & LOVE princess mononoki

[@joshuagannon6566]

DRAGOTH BELMONT Given how badly the movie aged, aside from the animation and some of the voice acting, that'd be a sign that it would need a remake. There was a decent concept at it's core, it just needed far better writing which I think Studio Ghibli would be capable of doing. Unfortunately I haven't seen Princess Monoke all the way, though from what I have seen it does seem like a really great film.

[@GothicXlightning]

even if that happens, with all this terrible remakes, reboots we are getting, lost likely I will always prefer it's original version & I don't think it aged badly, still master piece to me

[@GothicXlightning]

& you shall seriously watch Princess Mono, is simply one of miyazaki's greater films

[@ryansg1000]

The Rain Forest Cafe at my mall closed down a couple weeks ago. :(

[@fatalrob0t]

Meanwhile Texas is getting the monsoon season. Lots of flooding here. Better than burning to death. I hate wildfire season so give us all the rain you've got!

[@kemarker]

And in Colorado, there is still snow on the plains. Might be better than flooding, definitely better than burning, though.

[@crazysmith5408]

I know, its like we're going to drown soon from all the rain.

[@kyleraccoon6195]

Ikr

[@Magicarpmaster]

Good our plans are working, then the goverment will invade and steal your oil!

[@killerbee2562]

Actually the rain is only going to make the wild fires worse. It will cause more brush to grow in the spring that will dry out in the fall and become fuel for the wildfire.

[@urdnotstark8270]

Review We're Back! A Dinosaur Story! and by that i mean a real thoughts review!

[@urdnotstark8270]

when?

[@urdnotstark8270]

deitz Network shoot, i meant a real thoughts review!

[@blyjd91]

They never did Real Thoughts on that. I would love to see that.

[@Nitrodino7875]

already done, look it up before you ask kid.

[@wolfenman1013]

+Double Step Castillo Oh really? When did they do a real thoughts?

[@jessica_jam4386]

I agree with not wanting to join either side of the political debate. You hit the nail on the head with there being manipulation on both sides. I'll always vote for whoever I believe is the best candidate regardless of party (wish there were more moderate voters that spoke up! Extreme right and extreme left are always the loudest)

[@Ranylyn]

I'm in agreement with you. I mean, the way politicians play things up, they should go into poilitics! ... oh, wait. Jokes aside, attempting to manipulate people just shows a contempt and a lack of respect for their ability to see things on their own. Honestly, the only way to vote is to vote for the ones who have the best ideas and plans. People who always vote for the same party are really defeating the entire purpose of the voting process.

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

More accurately, there is manipulation *EVERYWHERE*, it is incorrect to assume it is unique to one of two political factions. Even people who say they are not "on either side" often manipulate. It also commits the False Dichotomy fallacy (there's a lot more than two factions) out there. (Vladimir Bukovsky points out that the middle ground between the Big Lie of Soviet propaganda and the truth is a lie, and one should not be looking for a middle ground between disinformation and information.) Then there's that awkward fact that you and Doug and his pal are falling for the classic fallacy known as "Argument to Moderation". It's especially bad when you realize that "moderate" is an entirely relative term which is determined by the Overtone Window that the overwhelmingly Politically Left media dictates.

[@Sukuun]

The problem is that a lot of people are not well off, and when they don't think the folks in charge are helping them, they will turn to whoever seems hard-nosed enough to get the job done. That's how you empower extremists.

[@Katyamuffin]

Radical Centrists awaaaaay!!!!

[@pinstripe4254]

I believe that too though I am not even old enough to vote yet but I hope someday people will look past your political views

[@Exiiii]

Love you doug! I respect your progress on the #WTFU movement and have always signed the petition when it turned up in my email!

[@Exiiii]

Drakon66 killer Well! We are making progress :P

[@deadaccount87]

I hope #WTFU is getting bigger and bigger especially since other channels are speaking up

[@zaphero5518]

+Drakon66 killer They instituted the side account for copyright claims.

[@gamingawesomeness222]

The next step is helping make sure the TPP never sees the light of day.

[@zaphero5518]

+gamingawesomeness222 The Phantom Pain? (lol)

[@slikrx]

No... global warming was NOT an issue in the 80s. I graduated HS in 87, and Iran/Contra, AIDS/GRID, Chernobyl, Cold Fusion and similar were big deals.

[@anonnumber8019]

I loved FernGully as a child.

[@garionfan1]

I absolutely love the both of you, even when I don’t agree entirely with your point of view I still enjoy hearing your stories and thoughts. You make me laugh and also help me see other points than mine. I think the most important thing is that you talk to us like adults and are intelligent in your arguments. The thing I absolutely hate the most is people saying that if you don’t agree with them then you’re automatically wrong, evil, bad, racist, etc…

[@Foustdoodles98]

So Ferngully came out in April of 1992, and Aladdin came out in November of 1992. So, yeah, I agree, they definitely didn’t know how to use Robin in this film!! But I still love him as the bat!🥰

[@Aliandrin]

The rainforest is *still* shrinking at an alarming rate. The environmentalists just gave up because there really isn't anything anyone in the first world can do about it. It's like the pandas. (Look at the DVD of Kung Fu Panda it seriously has Jack Black sending you on a panda guilt trip.) But it's not our shit. Not our pandas, not our rainforests, not our whales.

[@tinyj4520]

Wanna' start an ecoterrorist group? How dare those lesser people build modern buildings just like Western society taught them to!

[@Aliandrin]

No, but I kinda would have liked to see those Whale Wars people send divers to attach some C4 to the bottoms of those whaling boats and blow 'em up. I wouldn't condone it but I would have liked to see it. Guilty personal satisfaction level. Wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it, would turn someone in if they did do it. But still.

[@ReddwarfIV]

Except you literallyare condoning it. You realise sinking ships with C4 would have a serious likelyhood of killing the people on board, right?

[@theMRsome12]

whalewars people are idiots. it would be way more logical to actually talk to the japanese and not be condescending, just be respectfull.

[@Aliandrin]

ReddwarfIV Of course I realise you can't blow people up because you don't like them. I never would. I would just get a certain personal satisfaction from seeing it happen. But because I'm a rational person I'll go watch the evil humans get blown up in Avatar rather than do anything about it, because doing something about it would be wrong. There's what I would like, and then there's right and wrong. If I couldn't separate those two things I'd be some sort of environmental Jihadist.

[@enkeli19]

I haven't watched Fern Gully in AGES! but for some reason, Hexxus singing Toxic Love always stuck with me.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Tim Curry has that effect

[@Frahamen]

"The seas are gonna be melting"???

[@morgangobin6550]

Clearly Rob's school never taught chemistry!

[@Frahamen]

Morgan Gobin​ you mean physics.

[@5carecrow94]

+Frahamen you mean magic

[@morgangobin6550]

+Frahamen You mean SCIENCE!!! (No, I really meant chemistry)

[@user-oe5sj5hr8v]

Pretty sure that's arithmetic...

[@mikeliosketch746]

“The problem is that rain forests are a little boring so we have to add magical things.” The sad thing is, rainforests are far from boring. If you’re not careful in a real rainforest, you’ll die before the day is over. Literally, almost everything in the rainforest is designed to kill you. The Mayans and the Aztecs knew all this in their eras, it’s why death is a huge part of their culture. Rainforests are only boring because Hollywood and TV executives all think kids cannot handle how scary life in a rainforest can really be so they have to remove all the edge that makes them amazing.

[@innsj6369]

I would recommend the Yogi Bear movie, it's absolutely horrendous.

[@metalmat3651]

I don't have a problem with the movie, at least it had a decent message behind it. However Doug hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the fact that this movement in the early 90s really had no next step, it was only about awareness. What the hell were a bunch of middle school kids really going to do? At least Captain Planet taught some practical things that could be applied.

[@Tareltonlives]

Glad I agree with you on politics in this case. I'm pretty damn left, but you guys on the fence have your own wisdom :) I'm VERY liberal, and I HATE Fern Gully. For that matter, Inconvenient Truth is a bad movie because Al Gore has no charisma. Why not a scientist? Or someone entertaining! Have Bill fucking Nye do the power point! The message is true, but is has to be enjoyable to watch

[@Tareltonlives]

TOTALLY agree on the Lorax! THAT book made me environmentalist. I found Fern Gully to be just boring

[@noahbrady562]

trump

[@waddlepikins1567]

+Noah Brady no

[@TheTrekkie42]

I think everything you need to know about An Inconvenient Truth comes in two things: 1: it's a theatrically released slide show presentation 2: one of the funniest lines in Birdemic is someone calling it a good movie.

[@thetrumptrain9112]

Being a environmentalist isn't left or liberal, it's main stream.

[@neoyukio]

How you know you're getting old: Click a video about a children's cartoon from the 90s.. end up watching two guys talk about the weather for 6 mins.. and enjoy it.

[@til_thasmokeclearz853]

you heard em folks, doug walker hates the rainforest

[@poihpioakarp8845]

I remember the scare from the 00's being the hole in the ozone layer

[@jameslindsey666]

Anyone else notice that Avatar (blue people) is basically a retelling of ferngully?

[@chesterstevens8870]

I got a more 'dances with Wolves' vibe.

[@Lord_Veren413]

But with tall ass blue people

[@strubberyg7451]

actually it's dances with wolves. south park made an episode about it...

[@foreverdead1248]

Pocahontas, Ferngully, and Dances with Wolves all smashed together and somehow it's one of the biggest money makers ever.

[@captaindallas6084]

Yep. James Cameron never makes original movies, one of the reasons I've never cared for his stuff. His movies make themselves out to be this huge spectacle but they're just overblown and unoriginal.

[@TheMiuToo]

I can pinpoint the whole rainforest craze to an early 90s film called The Forbidden Dance. Thanks to that film, we had the craze of saving the rainforest and learning how to lambada dance

[@DJ-wl5qo]

Real thoughts on Food Fight (I'm morbidly curious).

[@KonekoneFukkatsu]

"Only now are we starting to not get rain, and May is almost over." Oh, Doug, honey... Everyone in England is saying "Hi", in our rainy summers.

[@ignacionadeo1306]

Doug, Rob, the reason you can sit through Donald Trump's speeches is because Donald Trump is fucking hilarious. Whether you agree with him or not, you have to agree with me on the fact that the man has a shitton of charisma. Even John Oliver admitted that there's a part of him that likes Donald Trump.

[@yedffgd]

Eh, Trump's become so boring for me at this point.

[@invaderpez12]

hes pretty funny in a Tommy Wiseau, hes so terrible but how can someone be this dumb, kind of funny

[@jadevenator5659]

"I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED!" - Donald Trump

[@slashandbones13]

Also, you can tell he is having the time of life

[@donstrutz750]

Like a Clinton rally?

[@mattmcgee645]

Fern Gully is one of my favorite movies from my childhood. I have so many fond memories of watching this over and over. As a kid, Hexxus absolutely terrified me. As an adult, I love him for how campy and Tim Curry-ish he is. This film and Hook were my two favorite films as a child. Both happened to have Robin Williams, and it's part of the reason why I miss him so much. I will always love this film. Yes, it's very preachy. Maybe I'm just looking at this through nostalgia-tinted glasses, but this film will always be wonderful to me.

[@KangaKucha]

IMHO I think Ferngully is a good movie (aussome joke about the hand scene btw). It's sequel blows.

[@charlesdecharleroy7209]

The mention of "The Giving Tree". It was even referenced in the first "Guardians of the Galaxy." Think about that for a moment. People can poke at it and giggle at it... but that simple story has endured to this day. It made an impact so strong no one can forget it. That's staying power any author would hope for.

[@kladams707]

I'm offended that you assumed you offended everyone!

[@5carecrow94]

"I feel like a lot of my childhood literature was just looking at stumps and crying." - Doug Darien Walker, 2016

[@Nakia11798]

Ah, environmental movies make me glad I was born in 96. I can't remember any of them.

[@Little1Cave]

'95 bro. (High fives)

[@johnalogue9832]

99, I was too busy going catatonic watching the first 5 minutes of Finding Nemo to ever watch another movie again for like 5 years(I was a really dumb kid).

[@AlbinoAxolotl1993]

'93.

[@1krani]

I dunno. I thought Once Upon a Forest was pretty okay, in that it kept the message simple and the story suitably engaging.

[@Lauren_210]

Another kid here that was born in 1996 😉

[@r.babylon2885]

When I first saw Ferngully in theaters, they had a pre-show presentation. A couple of people brought live animals from the rainforest to show us. Birds, bugs, lizards and snakes. That kind of thing.

[@Engel990]

Real thoughts on Never Ending Story 3. I want to see everyone rage over it one more time

[@tinyj4520]

Why? Why must you kill the happy?

[@MadScientist3000]

i'm raging over the original one for ending

[@Tytoalba777]

They already did real thoughts on all Never Ending Stories

[@thecatmom2861]

Wait, there's a third one?!

[@Engel990]

James A Clouder oh damn, excuse me sir, I will be checking that one out asap.

[@beachedking]

I personally LOVE Ferngully! I know its really far, but the message is clear to me. Even if it is a little forced and like you said.

[@TheKoolman89]

I happen to live in California, and yeah most of it is on fire now.

[@theblocksays]

Whadya'mean? I live here too and thanks to El Nino the reservoirs are back to normal...for now. Last I check it was Canada that was on fire, there was some deliberate arsonists' fires started but that's it so far.

[@TheKoolman89]

+theblocksays Yet El Niño didn't hit all of California, as Southern California is still in drought, and arsonists are also hitting California residents in Southern California.

[@theblocksays]

TheKoolman89 Ah true, guess news is more optimistic where I live.

[@quakethedoombringer]

The biggest issue with environmental (animated) films is that they always feel really contrived (in terms of story telling and message delivery) or entirely misses the point by overfocusing on other subplots like poorly developed love story or something like that. Take this film, Ferngully, The Lorax, Avatar (2009), Pocahontas (animated one) for example. There are like 3 animated films that I have known are: Wall E (probably no need to discuss), Princess Mononoke and Battle for Terra since these films actually take the messages seriously while keeping the execution sublime

[@xelic1996]

Am I the only one who loved the batty rap?

[@lunaticbaku7097]

Yes.

[@xelic1996]

LunaticBaku But but but... potato in a jacket...

[@robosuit]

toys in the attic

[@W1ldSm1le]

the lizard part is fucking awesome. tone loc is awesone

[@Ranylyn]

I wouldn't say I liked it, but I do eternally have that "Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na" stuck in my head. So take that as you will.

[@animagusurreal]

I think one of the reasons that environmental scare messages became such a big deal in the 90s was the end of the Cold War-era nuclear scare. (When I was a kid in the 80s, I had NO IDEA that was still going on). The horrible remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (2008) swaps out the nuclear scare for an environmental one, and there were plans to do the same for the movie of "Watchmen" - though they thankfully came to their senses on that one. Now, just as there really was a threat of nuclear war, there are real environmental concerns, but environmentalist propaganda is like instant death to almost every movie it touches.

[@The_Chosen_Heretic]

I'm very liberal and I still hate this movie.

[@floydharper4653]

Me too, it acts like it has suuuuuuch an important message... But it's talking about shit that happens thousands of miles away in other countries, like there is literally no rainforest in my country, I'm one person of limited means, and it makes you feel guilty as shit over something you can literally do nothing about

[@ThatMissQuin]

They did go nuts with the "save the rain forests". I was born in '88 and it was really shoved down our throats growing up.

[@psylofi7663]

I wants chocolate covered AIDS, WHOS WITH ME?

[@5carecrow94]

Fuck yeah!

[@motor4X4kombat]

i want it with penut butter

[@nostalgiaworks5999]

THEY'RE BRINGING BACK ECTO COOLER

[@androzani]

I'm in for some Bruce Willis WINE COOLERS!!!

[@StormDatIsApproaching]

Aids burgers in paradise!

[@Morgil27]

Boy, we sure did have some nice rain showers this past week up here in Wisconsin

[@BigGator5]

FernGully is propaganda nonsense. Discuss.

[@PszMan19063]

no.

[@tinyj4520]

It's a romcom selling propaganda to have Yoda's granddaughter bang a redshirt while The Nothing makes sex noises. Also Robin Williams.

[@icecreamhero2375]

i don't care but the movie sucks

[@SherlockHyde]

I know right? How come the elemental force of pollution's gotta be so damn sexy?

[@icecreamhero2375]

SherlockHyde makes you want to pollute more doesn't it LOL

[@Little1Cave]

Hey if you're gonna insult somebody, might as well insult everybody. Glad to know Doug, Rob and I share similar outlooks. XD

[@rattailtony2900]

Normally I'd complain that they didn't talk enough about the movie itself. But there's just something so damn entertaining about hearing these guys just being themselves and talking about whatever they want. I could listen for hours about them talking about almost anything.

[@chriskrause6280]

I will say, as a kid who was about 4 when Fern Gully came out, I did LOVE the animation. I agree with Doug's comments about the art direction. If you look at it purely from a design angle, the rainforest imagery and the way they used light in that film really was impressive. And Hexxas, (or however you spell it) was pretty visually stunning. Hell, at the end he came back as a black slimy fire skeleton. Talk about a scary kids villain. So on a purely design angle, it was pretty darn good. I agree about it being about as subtle as ten pound hammer though.

[@sheaperd18]

I love see these two together. If you watch you can see dougs brother just getting more and more frustrated, trying to give his thoughts and opinions and Doug just swooping in taking control / spotlight lmao. You two are the best but let your bro finish his thought.

[@smocnairethne]

I must have been about 4 when I first saw Fern Gully (on VHS, not in theaters), and all I remember about it is that I was so impressed with the image of the trees being spraypainted with "X's," marked for chopping or whatever, that I at some point wound up taking a permanent marker and drawing X's all over the walls, and hoo boy, was I sure grounded.

[@andrewkful]

Doug, these days, there are still important things such as saving endangered species, rain forests, polar ice caps, cities on a fault line that are prone to earthquakes, cities likely to get hit by a raid, etc. It's just that none of them have ever gotten a movie about em.

[@Esen99153]

In Australia, a 45 degrees Celsius day used to occur for a short few days in the middle of summer. This year we had a 45 degree day in autumn.

[@BrandonNinja]

The movie was still great for it's time.

[@Lady_Yuna]

Recycling was a big issue in the early 90s/late 80s all the PSAs targeted towards kids telling us to "recycle, reduce, reuse". Smokey the Bear with the "only you can prevent forest fires" PSA. :-)

[@sandimys3261]

Texas weather is like that too, "wait ten minutes and it'll change". For the first time in decades we're out of drought conditions and it won't stop raining. Lake Texahoma was 150% full after it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and kept raining last summer and it's back to raining now. It's a nightmare, it should've stopped raining months ago.

[@lampini]

I remember when I was in elementary school from 2004-2008 the 'save the rainforest' thing was still there. I remember we watched ferngully in third grade.

[@belindac3123]

One thing that's not in your usual frame of thought that FernGully does do; it shows us a part of Australia that you almost never see. I can name only one other kids movie that shows us the Aussie rainforest - and I'd be surprised if Napoleon ever made its way to USA. On the rare occasions kids shows give us Australia, its like one kangaroo and the red outback. In shows for adults, its etierh exactly the same thing or a beach. When I saw this movie as a kid, I didn't pay any attention to the story or the message. I was just simply blown away with the fact that all these animals and trees and a place a recognized so strongly were in an actual movie.

[@jordanwillner1436]

You've added humor; that's all that matters! Love hearing your real thoughts.

[@LordofFullmetal]

Where I live, a couple of years ago, we literally had the worst snowfall in decades, then a WEEK later we had the worst wild fires in decades. I shit you not, it was ONE WEEK APART. Within seven days we went from a snowfall that trapped 300 people in their cars, to wild fires that we were literally told "get out NOW or you might die" for. And our government still doesn't believe in climate change.... That kind of weather had NEVER happened before, and it's getting more common here as each year goes by. We actually have a similar thing to what you're getting - it feels like we're always a season behind. We usually get our snowfalls in Spring now, which is how we got the snow and then the fires within a week of each other.

[@LAVENDERLAVENDER]

I accidentally inhaled my water when I heard "The oceans are melting!"

[@Overbound]

I'm up in Iowa about 3 hours from Chicago every year the winter gets milder here it seems. At least for the last 10 years. We used to get snow on the ground for a month and have massive blizzards every year. Now we're lucky if it snows a couple times in in the winter and stays on the ground a week.

[@Chilie5678]

i swear, everyone has the "you don't like the weather? wait five minutes" where they are.

[@brewski118sempire]

As a person who works in the storytelling field, the comparison between FernGully and Miyazaki films is spot on. If you want to tell a message in your work... first thing is to tell a story, not the agenda.

[@elgostine]

lso, doug, i can indeed confim that in australia, everything is indeed perpetually on fire on the bright side we never have to worry about getting cold in winter....

[@TheaterRaven]

I remember the "Save the rain forest/endangered species!" craze of the '90s. And, as a child of the '90s who loved animals and daydreamed about becoming the next Jane Goodall, I ate that shit up. Worthy causes, of course, but looking back on how they presented it, it seemed very manipulative and not genuine, "Hey, kids, let's save the environment . . . but in a first world/white suburban kind of way that doesn't involve any real effort or things your parents could get mad at us for encouraging little kids to do!"

[@HrvojeGrahovac]

TheaterRaven Damn

[@samhynninen]

Honestly, I think environmentalism and rain forest protection was due to a lot of celebs like River Phoenix and Raul Julia promoting environmentalism. There' a John Donahue episode on youtube with those two and Lisa Bonet as guests. Really interesting watch.

[@poihpioakarp8845]

I found this movie surprisingly good tbh

[@archangel1547]

I also remember the acid rain lectures in school and that was also a big focus at that time.

[@deeplyconcerned9306]

I was born in 1996, but I remember in school in the early 2000's about the rainforests and how they were in danger.

[@rainylupin]

FernGully is like Baby's First Princess Mononoke

[@hart-of-gold]

As a kid in a logging town in Australia when this movie came out, It was weird, because there was a lot of hype by greenies before its release, because there was a massive debate about the logging of old-growth forests in the region. Where I lived many of the environmentalists ignored it because it so completely missed the point of the debate.

[@Dim4323]

I like the sequal had the idea the fairy got distracted by the TV like a social commentary

[@LegolasNordark]

I am officially offended that you did not offend me enough!

[@trainerjei3004]

The main problem I have with Fern Gully is how much they painted humans as "evil" for cutting down trees, but the only trees being cut down were ones already dead and decaying. They weren't destroying the forest, they were trying to prevent forest fire.

[@whisperspinner7445]

Off topic but my favourite part of this video is when you mention Jewel Osco - (Gave this displaced Chicagoan a twang of homesickness and a flash of the 'working together' jingle)!! The only thing better would have been a reference to "Jewel T" which is what my Grandma always called it :D

[@tammie1078]

When Doug says for his hometown, with the weather changing, wait five minutes or seconds lol that's what we say in Boston MA lol I guess the weather is unpredictable everywhere lol Yeah I like the animation, as an animator myself. It's rich with color too , I like the story. But I do agree that it was trying to hard to sell about the rain forest lol like how you said people selling the bible and stuff. They do that at my train station all the time, it's like leave that with going do to door and even then I won't answer it lol

[@slashingkatie7872]

Anyone see Epic? As Nostalgia Chick put it "it's Fern Gully with its balls cut off." At least Ferngully tried to be whimsical and have a message. Epic was just how you take a fun forest fantasy movie and turn it into focus tested marketed bullshit. My God those damn slugs never shut up and none of the characters are remotely likable.

[@charlesdecharleroy7209]

Doug, "Is there still problems with the rainforest?" Nope! Not anymore! We cut it all down! >:D

[@TildaM1994]

Fern gully is such a beautiful place in Queensland. I was so surprised to find out fern gully is a real place XD

[@skkahl3400]

It was the rain forest and the ozone layer. I remember being preached to by Nickelodeon when I was kid about the ozone layer pretty much every day.

[@Cephalopod51]

Aside from Ferngully's attempt to raise public awareness of the destruction of the rain forests, I enjoy the film more for its fantasy, some of its characters, and its visuals than for its message. I also enjoy its 90s-ness. I still think the idea behind Hexus is clever: a tar-like demonic embodiment of pollution which sprung from volcanic eruptions, and has the ability to feed on all kinds of pollutants and to become stronger from it. The whole background story of Hexus being trapped in the tree reminds me a little of Watership Down's intro sequence, and I think that abstract art of the intro animation was clever in how it made Hexus' origin mysterious and freaky before he returns. I think that it still has merit: it's just that it's so really really early 90s.

[@pyschogambitable]

Where I live, we normally have winter from mid October to end of May, sometimes beginning of June. This year our winter started end of November and ended mid January with the occasional snow fall in Feb (majority of the weather was sweatshirt or t-shirt) and an absurd weekend of snow end of March.

[@ashotofwhiskey219]

3:33 - No we're not. We're not even close. Most of the ice caps have been becoming thicker. While climates are changing, it's a natural process that we are just now becoming more aware of because technology has been improving.

[@LowellMorgan]

There's a very specific reason for rain forests being a topic of huge concern in the 1980's and early 90's. The Brazilian government had an anti-rain forest policy and deforestation rates were at an all-time high in the country with the biggest rain forest. In the 90's the policies changed and there was more world-wide awareness of the ecological importance of the rain forests.