Cheap airbrush vs a branded iwata airbrush

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[@AirbrushAsylum]

Check out the updated version of this video 👉🏻 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIPYqX6rlK5lbbs

[@hugoangwald9838]

I have the createx cx1. Why can't i remove the aircap without removing the whole nozzle?

[@vstar7196]

I’ve been airbrushing for 47 years. What I’ve learnt is the basic principles of how an airbrush works is the same no matter the make or price of a unit. A plastic body vs a metal one makes no difference. What does effect the quality of work out of any airbrush is how the paint is thinned, air pressure and technique. None of this has anything to do with the so-called “quality” of the airbrush.

[@jabriagoodine9775]

what the best airbrush machine to buy?

[@bander1023]

I appreciate you posting this. The “we’re going to compare *this* clear piece of garbage to a name brand airbrush who’s company has clearly given me a kickback” comparison videos are tiring at best and misleading at worst.

[@Joxman2k]

I agree. I've not tried airbrushing yet, but as an artist a pencil is a pencil. In fact if you can learn on a "lower quality" tool, moving up to a pricer one is a bonus, but the basic techniques and understanding the basic tool is what really matters.

[@mikeklug3369]

Sorry but you're full of it. I've used everything from an Aztec brush to a paasche, vega 2000, and my to go to brush the hpc Iwata. I can tell you that it makes a huge difference in the brush you use. That's fact. And a plastic airbrush is as useless as tits on a mouse. Try running solvents through one then let those out there know what you think after those solvents start breaking down your brush components. As far as water based paints think about it. Acrylic paint running through a plastic unit. Plastic paint tends to stick to plastic parts rather well. Makes cleaning a bitch. been painting automotive pieces for a while and I'd never use a plastic airbrush.

[@Joxman2k]

@@mikeklug3369 you may in fact be right, but it doesn't make you a better artist. It may make you a quicker artist, and be of less hassle, but the tool alone is not the important thing. I have also heard that Iwata is a superior brand :) If you move from an iwata to a cheaper, almost marginal, airbrush your work will suffer a great deal until you adapt to the specific eccentricities of the new tool.

[@rperry70]

I recently purchased this same Iwata airbrush. I have gone a number of the cheaper ones as well. The thing that never seems to get mentioned is the Iwata is a lot easier to clean. It is as if it has a special coating that keeps the paint from sticking to it. Definitely worth the extra money.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks appreciate the comment 👊🏻

[@99897767]

I think it is just because of the nice, chrome plating, that's about it, really

[@ThePereubu1710]

What's the most important part of an airbrush? The person using it.

[@statoilbensin2190]

Yes but the paint atomization must be good or youre paintings wont look that good even if you are a good painter.

[@kaiminamoto]

Just ordered an Iwata HP-CS. Hopefully, it will be better than the Kkmoon airbrushes that I have. 🙏

[@MysterySemicolon]

Sure, you can try the cheap one from Amazon. I tried the $25 version and wasted my money. Valve wouldn't work right out of the box. Replace the valve? The only one I could find that would fit the body at a local shop (couldn't find one online) was $35... quality control is definitely crap with these low-enders and you have a very high chance of buying a paperweight.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes , that’s always a risk and I always recommend buying a quality brand if you can afford to do so, that said some people who may only use their airbrush once every now and then, for let’s say doing backgrounds or priming miniatures, then the cheap one is still a great way to give it a go to see if you are going to use it enough or like it and if so then keep that as a spare and grab a quality brush👍🏻

[@rickparshall]

I didn't know you could use them without tip.. I have a cheap old Badger (20yrs old at least😂) and it seems such a hassle to use.. I build/fly R/C airplanes and boats( well they fly but don't fly😉) so my "canvas " can get quite large.. the cups on the ones you show may not take well to the strange positions like upside down doing under the wing.. lol but I guess better positioning of the plane may help.. I seem to go thru a LOT of paint and can't seem to get precise lines at all... or consistent flow.. I am however thinking with plane water.. have also used windshield washer fluid... may have to step up to the next level,(ok probably several levels lol) and get a modern one.. will check out your Amazon site and watch more videos and continue to experiment!! Thanks

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment and yes I’d recommend thinning with whichever brand of paint you use their compatible reducer as it doesn’t destroy the viscosity of the paint like water will check out this vid for tips on paint reduction which may help you out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2fHZKd5iLqSjrc thanks again and hope you find what you are looking for on our amazon page 👌🏻

[@zzz7zzz9]

personally, I miss my passche. I replaced it with an iwata, and the iwata just never feels comfortable in the hand, it's so skinny in comparison. they really need rubber grippers on them, especially the button, it's impossible to not slip. I built up glue on the button and slid a rubber grip from a pen up onto the airbrush to help with those issues. performance-wise, it's pretty dang great, but I definitely get tip-drying a lot, something that almost never happened with my passche.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Paasche are great, I actually learned to airbrush with a VL and used it for about 3 years before moving to iwata ...I always urge students to hold different brands so that they can decide what airbrush feels most comfortable in their hand as this is definitely a big factor. 👍🏼

[@petecolone5125]

In my experience with the cheap airbrush's they always seem to work okay in the beginning but once you take it apart to clean it they always break. Just my opinion

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yep be interesting to see how this one stacks up in the long term 🤞

[@hyperhektor7733]

its not an opinion its an experience, which is imho a bit more valuable ;)

[@greenspringvalley]

I don't think you can get parts for the cheap airbrush.

[@parnashwind]

@@greenspringvalley Yes you can. I have 3 cheap airbrushes and they started to die one by one. I just take them all apart and reassemble the good parts together and ta-da! XD. You buy another cheap airbrush and use old one for parts - it is cheaper buying 2 or 3 cheap airbrushes than a needle set for a branded airbrush.

[@stefanthoma787]

Nice videos, I learned a lot. What do you think about these sets of airbrush and compressor for about 35,-€ (or the same in dollars)?

[@sttm1283]

`for the price the red one is at id say it had killer performance. i really like the red one, cause of the colour :D but i already have hp-cp, hp-bh, rich 200 and a rich 300. might get that red just for some colour in the box :D

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Lol, you have a great collection of professional brushes so I would suggest that the red is purely as a show piece lol as it won’t put perform any of your existing brushes.

[@williamwestonn]

Looks like you havent thinned the paint for the inexpensive one... i have a 25 usd brush and the paint looks like the top one :/ and would say even better than that with a polished needle. (wouldnt say its better in part quality and i expect it not to hold as long as a branded one. but regarding the painting this doesnt feel like a good comparison

[@TheGrimpixie]

Hey. Great video for me as my kids bought me this very airbrush for Christmas, I'm a total newbie to airbrushing so would want to spend a fortune if I don't get on airbrushing. Do you know the maker and model so I can't try to locate parts for it.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment and glad you enjoyed the video, the airbrush used in the video is similar to the following : amzn.to/2rVOvy1 Not sure if you will be able to get parts but you can contact the seller to see if they can help. 👌🏻

[@Marqk-]

good on ya for a fair review

[@iminfinite3412]

I bought a 20$ cheap airbrush from eBay and I like it better then my talon.

[@xbpbat21x]

Just watching him doodle, a guy can see hit artistic talent.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thank you 👍🏼

[@sufferedenuf]

648 comments so far. I didn't read them all but.. can the differences in results be the difference in needle size? At the beginning, you say one is .3 and the other is .35.

[@hengky0456]

So final result cheap or branded more better or same quality

[@AirbrushAsylum]

I would say that if you wanted to take up airbrushing for a longer period then I would definitely recommend the branded airbrush but if you are short on cash or think that you may only use the brush once or twice then the cheaper option will work . 👍🏼

[@VegaMain]

Is master airbrush bad brand?

[@sargantana100]

The "no name" airbrush is a elite E7185?

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment it’s listed on amazon as Hubest see following ‘affiliate’ link for more details or to purchase amzn.to/2XDGvju model may vary as the company keeps changing their base models 👍🏻

[@sowbhagyalakshmikn]

i want this one

[@AirbrushAsylum]

👍🏼👊🏻

[@coyoteeats4314]

Same

[@AirbrushAsylum]

🙏🏻👌🏻👍🏻

[@coffeecomics3583]

4:14 Begin the airbrush review. (No more talking).

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yep....lol always either too much or too little info

[@tfpvlogsandvids1339]

Thank god!

[@tfpvlogsandvids1339]

@@AirbrushAsylum it isn't the amount of information that makes people crazy, it's the repetition.."we've preloaded it with thinned out paint".....15 seconds later "the paint is pre thinned and ready to go" "some people just want to use it to fill in background on canvas or whatever"...20 seconds later..."like I said some people might just want to fill in backgrounds" ....I think you probably just need to work on editing your videos and it'll be fine.....constructive criticism for what it's worth.

[@influentialolive]

@@AirbrushAsylum no matter WHAT you'll have critics. I don't mind repeated info.... many REQUIRE that... I personally enjoy your videos...

[@myonionsmatter7843]

@@AirbrushAsylum nah, the dude is a dumb ass, you'll spend the whole video not knowing which one is the one that costs 10 times more. if he wanna watch someone paint, go watch bob ross.

[@MAC-ws8fz]

I'm 77 years old and been painting since teenager. Made some money and had them all. Hands down, the only one I'd buy again is Paasche VL. Solid and sturdy and easy to afford and last I checked , still made in Chicago!!! Have an able friend rig up a refrigerator compressor and your off to the races. And, forget all that trap about special paints and use acrylics and start counting profits instead! I've got a shirt that's 40 some years old! And with any brush care and cleaning is important.

[@snoopu2601]

That's what I've been having a hard time trying to figure out what paint to buy. So I just bought some cortex water base acrylic for $ 20 bucks for red, green, black, blue, yellow, white to get myself started I'll learn as I will go along maybe I paid to much. They might have some paints at Wal Mart I didn't even check. I just want to use this air gun and supplies that went with it. Few diffrent air brushes I have no idea who makes them it was all given to me. Like you said just clean it up when your done and take care of it. That's what everyone was telling me as long as you keep it clean up before putting it away.

[@Eener1000]

@@snoopu2601 Paint does matter though. Acrylics are great, but if you do small work like figures then get good quality ones with fine pigment or otherwise you will be messing around with your airbrush and your airflow and your thinners trying to figure out why you can't get the result you want. I love Valejo paints since the quality is great and they can be thinned down a lot while still painting very well so they last me forever.

[@neototem4110]

I'm 27yrs in and first started with Badger 150/Paasche VL/ Thayer & Chandler Vega...the only one I can still fire up from those days and handle a hustle is the VL. The Vegas were just as good, I just can't find any of mine and I had a manifold of 6🤔 I first got my Iwata Eclipse in 97' it's the only match to the VL parts and performance wise...but if I want to go commando w/ a single airbrush, I'd pull out my all chromed out VL with the snub air cap/button trigger/cutaway handle official Paasche mods and single airbrush a tshirt hustle quick, I know one half second plug to a cleaner bottle, she's ready for any color in the hue range. Eclipse takes just a little longer still despite their floating nozzle design.

[@harkejuice]

That's fine if you want a siphon feed, which isn't for anyone. The Talon or Vision are better for a little more. And paint quality and composition IS important. 40 years ago you didn't have access to the stuff we do now, and it matters because its better.

[@iminfinite3412]

Hey how do you make money with the airbrush painting?

[@EuroB0B1]

To be fair I'm not close enough to see clearly but from what ive seen the more expensive brush didnt seem to perform x10 better.

[@Darin7]

I have both, got the cheap one from AliExpress for $11 and it paints better than my Eclipse, although that could be the fault of the user as well. (cleaning etc)

[@padelisgk8126]

I learned how to use my airbrush in this clip than all the tips and tricks clips I’ve seen so far.. nice ...

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Lol, that’s great that it helped

[@bunnyfreakz]

The difference about cheap airbrush vs Iwata is longevity and durability. Cheap Airbrush will falls apart easily and affected performance. Which you always need buy a new one to have peak performance.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Very true, you do get a quality product from iwata which will stand the test of time 👍🏻

[@marshallr.8121]

it's great how far the cheaper products have come, having a pretty low entry barrier will definitely help more people get into the hobby/art

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes agree and it is great to encourage more people to get into airbrushing

[@TheAechBomb]

I just bought a $20 airbrush, we'll see how it goes when it gets here

[@brandurr7630]

@@TheAechBomb What airbrush is it? A 20$ airbrush sounds crazy!

[@TheAechBomb]

@@brandurr7630 www.amazon.com/dp/B00EKUU0WY/ it's a top-feed Master airbrush, and it's OK for what I needed (mostly just base coats and basic detail) it's not perfect but I'd say it's worth the $23 if you just need it for basic stuff like I do

[@satyanpatel6403]

Till you realize you need to buy a compressor. Whoo....

[@alejandrosilvestre6773]

yes... this is as helpfull as comparing a beetle with or versus a ... porsche ! they both do the same thing ...but there is the quality factor...thus the PRICE ... no news here. just remember an airbrush is a tool , the performance of a tool depends on the skills of the person using it.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes, good points 👊🏻

[@KIP_KnowledgeIsPower]

Excellent!!!! I was looking at that exact red airbrush online yesterday (it comes in gold & black colours too) but I wasn’t sure, never done airbrushing before so didn’t wanna spend a fortune straight up but obviously wanted something that wasn’t completely useless either.... Perfect video for me, THANK YOU!!! ☺️💜

[@wewyllenium]

I bought that red cheap AB too. I'm glad I did. It's smooth :D I'll move up when i breaks :D

[@fabiorodrigues890]

Sir, cannyou please link it? Thanks alot ✌🏼

[@slipknotfan2217]

@@fabiorodrigues890 its all over aliexpress, you can find one under 5 minutes

[@fabiorodrigues890]

@@slipknotfan2217 thanks mate i already bought one KKmoon and im very happy. Thanks again ✌🏼👍🏼

[@slipknotfan2217]

@@fabiorodrigues890 no problem, im also looking to buy a kkmoon airbrush

[@teen_reapers1072]

Anyone know the reason why my ab is working with water but not paint even if I thin it I've also cleaned it out and the needle doesn't go in unless I take the nozzle out 1st please let me know also I got that cheap one

[@cheetor71]

The Iwata HP-CS is my workhorsre. I have had mine since 2008 and have only needed to replace the needle, nosle and the part that grips the needle. I love it.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes fantastic airbrush as an all rounder and it can also create fine details when needed 👍🏻

[@airbrushken5339]

Main thing I have always told students about airbrushes and the buying there of. 1) The end result is 80% the actual artist's abilities. I have made some cheap equipment work for demos (I was paid to do) by upping the air pressure and thinning down the medium. 2) The quality of the paint/medium used (5%). (an example; Fabric paints are a pain for fine detail images) Water colours are so simple to spray detail with. 3) The airbrush accounts for around 15% in most cases. When purchasing an airbrush: A) is it for hobby work or the other end, professional markets. B) where are you located in the world... can you drive down the road and pick up spare parts, if it comes from overseas and you drop that baby in the middle of a job ... you see my point?) C) Reality check, can you afford the high end and it's replacement needles/tips. an example; a high end EFBE German airbrush tip and needle set is well over $100 AUS while a Sparmax set is around 35-40 bucks. Finally, always remember the airbrush doesn't make the art great, you do. I've been doing it for over 50 years and at one time or another I've been a service agent for Olympus, Paasche, Iwata, EFBE and Sparmax here in Australia. I own two AB Turbo's (no longer made), 4 EFBE (all sizes, including the 0,15mm), several Paasche (all sizes and models) about 8 Sparmax with the SP-35 my favorite. A very old HPC, (that I changed the packing washers to allow me to use solvent base paints) and two HPBs. Had a Micron, got rid of it as the EFBE 0.15 was able to do finer detail.(again personal choice) So to sum it up, buy the best you can afford, from a company near your location, that will handle your type of work. And practice all the time ... and then practice some more. DON'T TRUST THE GUY OR GAL AT THE ART STORE SELLING IT! Odds are they are sales reps, not airbrush experts. You can read the box, and that's what they are doing ;) ...

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes Ken so true, the artists ability definitely makes all the difference 👍🏼

[@CharlesNolanArt]

Now you are the kind I would love to learn from, is there a site which displays some of your work? I really want to see it, thanks

[@airbrushken5339]

Mate, I suffer from wounds I got in Vietnam (101st Airborne, Strike Force) which have forced me to retire. I've just set up my new studio and purchase on a fine art printer, Drew Blair and JW Baker both told me this was the unit to buy so in time I will be selling Limited edition of wild life art Under Airbrush Ken. Airbrush Asylum is run by a great guy down in Victoria ... sadly not as cool as Sydney, but he never listens to me ... lol ... I am serious about practice makes the artist. You have to train your muscles to respond without forethought. It's magic when you look at an image you are trying to create and just drop the pressure/pinch the air hose, move a few mills further from the surface, without thinking about it, because you've trained you muscles to react to your visual input. I love to paint, I'm in 7th Heaven working with ease , creating what I visualize. It's like pinstriping. Feeling the pull of the paint on the surface ... after lots of practice it become second nature. I paint usually 4-5 days a week, in the past many weeks 7 days ... it's not work, it's love. Good Luck

[@CharlesNolanArt]

I could not agree with you more my friend, and thank you for your service in vietnam I missed going in the draft by just a few months I cant imagine the hell you endured. I have the utmost respect for you, sir.

[@CharlesNolanArt]

Thank you for your service, sir I could not agree more and as you said, It's a labor of love I wish I had started earlier and had more time to do it more! I could never stop.

[@gost4995]

The final result of the piece is @ 85% the skill of the artist. Buy cheap and practice, practice, practice... Then, after you've decided airbrushing is for you, save up for a better model.

[@luckydr2623]

It all falls down to user preference and user skills plus budget. I still use cheapos for my model painting because I feel like I am not worthy to have an expensive one yet lol, no joke. Yet maybe in the years to come I might buy a branded one once I level my skills up to jet, tank and car models. One thing the cheapos teach you is to clean your airbrush thoroughly and never skimp on it because you know it's gonna mess up if you don't. Thank you for this vid! 👍

[@latenighter1965]

I own 4 Master airbrushes and they average a price of around $30 each on Amazon, and as long as you take care of them and treat them right these work fantastic, and for the price if you dropped one by accident its cheaper then replacing a $120+ Iwata model.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

I have heard many good things about Master airbrushes I have never used them but have heard lots of people talking about them. Thanks for your comment 👍🏻

[@fabiorodrigues890]

Sir can you tell me the model of your 30$ Master airbrush please? Would like to get one to start learning. Thanks in advance.

[@jkg6211]

About 4 years ago, I decided that I wanted to try a side feed but was afraid to spend big money on a brush that I wouldn't like - so I bought a Master SB86. It wasn't too bad out of the box, but because replacement needles are cheap, I decided to experiment... A little black magic marker on the needle tip (to make sure I followed the right angle), about 10 seconds in the drill with 3000 grit (at LOW speed), followed by another 20 seconds or so with some Flitz to polish it up, and now it preforms as well as my Iwata. No more $200 - $500 airbrushes for me. If I had all the money I've spent on top dollar airbrushes since I started back in 1981, I'd have dozens of Masters right now. LOL (Still not quite sure I like the balance/feel of a side feed though)

[@jkg6211]

@@fabiorodrigues890 Take a look at the G44.

[@fabiorodrigues890]

Thanks for the answer friend but in the meantime i bought a H&S and i couldnt be more happy with it. Once again many thanks mate ;)

[@israelgonzalez3619]

Hey bro thanks for the info I was thinking of air brushing I had a accident that damage the nerve of my right hand witch I used to draw with and my left can't control the motion to use a pencil but I miss drawing it was my escape and constantly having ideas and images in my head to put on paper that's why I was thinking of airbrushing I lost my job because of the accident so thinking of purchasing a cheaper brush machine thanks brother God bless

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks appreciate the comment 👊🏻

[@Nekotamer]

in everything in my life i have noticed that theres always a sweetspot for price to performance, and after that the price just goes exponentially for a linear shift in performance.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment 👍🏻

[@herculeholmes504]

IMO this is terrible advice! I am amazed at how well that cheap red airbrush worked, because I've bought three Chinese airbrushes and they don't work AT ALL. I polished the needles, but it makes almost zero difference. My _real_ airbrushes work like they are supposed to, and I cannot understand how these KZbinrs who are encouraging people to buy $20 airbrushes are getting theirs to work. They just don't!

[@steviegibson5847]

Great video. The problem with the cheaper airbrushed is the longevity. Because they use rubber bushings, if you use cellular service or lacquer thinner it will destroy the rubber eventually.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Good point thanks for the comment 👊🏻

[@mhiscott4925]

As far as these guns go, most people only benefit using them for shadowing. So even the cheaper ones for $20 will work fine

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes definitely if you are not planning on using it for art or really intricate details then the cheaper option will work just fine 👍🏻

[@The52brandon]

I've found that the primary issue with the cheaper tools is quality control. Sometimes you get a fantastic value. But sometimes you get a total POS that isn't even properly threaded

[@IKenexPSN]

Fully agree. I bought one and it never turned on out the box. Probably a faulty switch or circuit board.

[@gianlucad.6455]

the difference is not between cheap or high-end airbrush, but between cheap and high-end hand skills "-.-

[@draggy76]

the cheaper "noname" ahem (HUBEST) air brush would work good and in some cases damn good for most model kit paint jobs, the "fuzzy" lines would help ass to patterns and blending more.

[@kaysee88]

No joke, but i been doing commissions for decades and never touched a branded one. All I had these years were 2 generic chinese airbrushes, one 7cc cup & one 9cc cup. Both were 0.3mm sized. Never polished needles, but did replace them each year. Lol maybe one day I'll get a branded one just to be less of an 'outcast'?? =)

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Lol... Thanks appreciate the comment 👊🏻

[@rabbit034]

You mentioned that the cheaper model might work better once it gets broken in a little... How much better, if at all, do you think it would perform if you were to give the needle a really good polishing. I use the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and it seems to me that it tends to perform better, if I occasionally polish the needle. That was a tip I heard about on a youtube video and I believe the guy said he used beeswax, but I can't remember for sure; however, he was suggesting it as a way to get a cheaper brush to perform more like a much more expensive model. I just use a spray lubricant such as WD-40, or Liquid Wrench. I spray a little onto a soft cotton rag and wipe the needle down and then polish it with a simple 3x5 notecard. I saw a video about how to care for an Iwata specifically and the guy suggested rubbing the needle on glass, but I have found the oil and notecard to a better job, at least for me. Anyway, I would just like to get your opinion. I would like to have another brush and I love the Iwata, but not the price.

[@influentialolive]

I would say, it's a decent airbrush... I don't know if the one red one I have, is THE SAME, I'll have to look... i like my "cheap" air brushes though... until I have the Budget to buy better, I'll stick with the 4 I have... I won't say, it's All about the materials. Top Dollar Art supplies, won't make non painters, painters, out of the box.. lol

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment and cheap airbrushes do serve a purpose but if you intend to stick at the craft then investing a quality brush will save you in the long run👍🏻

[@AndyboyLedesma]

Well what do we know here? The cheap one has the great and very worthy👌

[@parnashwind]

I think cheap airbrushes are not meant for beginners. They are meant for experience users with substantial knowledge about airbrushes because you need to know how to maintain them, how to identify problems, fix them and tweak them and modify them. A beginner may have a very bad experience if they receive one that has a problem and they dont know how to fix it or even ask the right questions. For beginners though... I would recommend GSI Creos Procon Boy PS-289/270. They are every bit as good as Iwata Hi-Line but cost 1/2 the price. Oh.. they made by the same factory as iwata too.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes, fair point...ultimately I agree purchasing a better quality brush if you plan on sticking with airbrushing is always best. The GSI Creos brushes are great I just did a video showcasing the PS.770 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5PVqph6ppWse6s , haven’t tried the models you mentioned but I am sure they are good, thanks for your comment 👍🏻

[@oneyedthing]

I hope you do an updated comparison. I think a lot of cheap AB releases has improved after 2 years since your comparison review. I wonder how the new cheap ones compares to the branded ones

[@PacificNWGrl]

Sounds like you’re recording this in an auditorium

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes I know my apologies , it was recorded a few years ago in our factory with a directional mic, we now use lavaleir mics in a smaller studio so you will notice much better sound quality. Feel free to check out the updated version of this video for a better all round viewing experience 🤞🏻👍🏻 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIPYqX6rlK5lbbs

[@roba4295]

I am an Iwata fan but any time I am experimenting with a chin knock off and I run across something useful, I order a spare and use it for parts. You will rarely find single parts but these things are so cheap that ordering an extra for parts is a no brainer.

[@gamervince3720]

Bought an Iwata Neo about a year ago. I have had nothing but trouble with it. I will never buy another Iwata product. I leaks around the nozzle, it will not spray without sputtering or just plain clogging. Yes, I use Model Air Acrylics from Vellejo. I would not wish an Iwata brush on my worst enemy. I've had a cheap $20.00 airbrush do a better job than that piece of crap.

[@thecatguy4301]

I speak from experience, never buy a cheap air brush! Iwata is the only way to go.

[@pedroklee604]

Did you tried using the same two airbrushes with some enamel or lacquer (using lacquer thinner)?. Otherwise is just a partial test. Main issue would be the inner seal... over the long run the cheaper brands gets affected by stronger solvents!

[@Eener1000]

I love my cheap 20$ airbrush for big things like primer, rough shading or terrain. Anything fine where consistency is important; nope. Being cheap means I can abuse it without feeling guilty and it's so simple it is surprisingly sturdy. It was my first one which did cause me some problems trying to learn airbrushing. It took me a long while to figure out wether a problem was because of me or because of my cheap airbrush. Most problems were because of me (not thinning paint well enough or wrong pressure) but after trying everything I found out that my cheap brush is simply inconsitent with fine work, despite polishing the needle etc. So learning to airbrush with a cheap brush..well it has pros and cons.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes, well said ...cheap is ok if you want to just give airbrushing a go or use the airbrush for a short period of time to spray a few backgrounds or blends and then bin it...investing in a quality airbrush will always pay off in the long run. 👍🏻

[@EmilBlueMan]

Oh wow... just realized I need to buy the air pump now.

[@hugheffo]

In the UK the cheap one is £6.99 where the hp-c in £140, that’s X20 more expensive. The question is, is the Iwata 20 times better ?

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Very well said and put, I think it really depends on whether the airbrush will only be used for basic backgrounds blends etc..but if you want something that will last and produce art for years to come the iwata is always worth the investment 👍🏻

[@XxBloggs]

Don’t buy Chinese made anything. I’m happy to pay more.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes, if you want it to last then that’s always a smart move...,but if someone isn’t sure about airbrushing and wants to give it a try and not break the bank then Chinese is ok to start with 👍🏻

[@RayRayRampage]

i cant im broke im only 13 years old

[@redleg1376]

So now, in 2020, I'm interested in how it has held up compared to the Iwata 2 years later.

[@archades54]

Have a look online for the 180k airbrush, yes it looks like it's a clone of the top of the line Iwata? See if it is any good. Also autosol metal polish on needles may solve some of the issues, do it carefully of course.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks I will take a look 👍🏼

[@darkracer1252]

for fucks sake film this where there is no echo or do something about your mic so it doesn't pick it up. do you expect people to not be bothered by that?

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yep I hear ya, problem has been sorted since then , we now run rode microphones for better audio and have solved the Echo, echo, echo , echo 🤪

[@harveychenier5860]

it would help alot to polish that needle on the cheeper one those needles are rough try the polishing compound and see if it doesnt come out smoother

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes great tip

[@yourselfdotcomlol]

Cheap one worked like shit right from the first lines. Nice of you to be so diplomatic in reviewing it

[@AceBullion]

I have one of the budget or starter annodized ones. It did ok as a beginner brush but I upgraded to a much more expensive one. I am still rubbish. So can't blame the brush. Although the cheap one is still fine! Still works great and no issues. No flaking yet

[@AirbrushAsylum]

That’s great to hear and glad you are still having fun airbrushing 👍🏼

[@AceBullion]

Airbrush Asylum yes bud, I have used it on many projects, but trying to draw is another thing all together.

[@goilo888]

You need to buy those Asian pencils - they'll make you a much better artist ;)

[@afrog2666]

How about saying what that other brush IS? Maybe linking to it? If not, this is useless information. "here`s a cheap one, feel free to buy and expensive on though our affiliate link" pfffh!

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment, here are the affiliate links to both airbrushes used : Cheap - amzn.to/2pKiuIi Cheap in a kit - amzn.to/2IKissB Iwata Eclipse - amzn.to/2yobvsq Iwata Eclipse with hose - amzn.to/2pGvtdT Hope that helps 👍🏼

[@jimmbbo]

Having used various cheap and "name" Iwata, H&S, Badger, and Paasche, Aztek airbrushes over the decades, the point of the video is well taken, especially for "non precise" work where the airbrush is not planned to last, or is basically doing the work of a spray can... IMO there are three main differences between name and cheap airbrushes 1) If fine line accuracy is needed, cheap units won't cut it, 2) replacement parts. They can be difficult/impossible to get for no name brushes, turning them into paperweights when a part goes south. We know we will be able to buy a new Iwata needle or nozzle for decades to come... with el cheapo brands, such a task will be a major challenge, as replacement parts are unlikely to be easily available. 3) Quality control on "name" airbrushes is universally higher than no name units. Getting a "good" one is definitely more a matter of rolling the dice than good QC from the factory

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes , thank you appreciate the comment 👍🏼

[@duerf5826]

As a modeler, the Iwata is a god-sent. The paint consistency is just so much better than a cheap airbrush. Still, one can only appreciate a good airbrush after using 2 or 3 bad ones.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment 👍🏼

[@royarianto4617]

Agree Dude im a user of iwata esclip..its absolutly amazing

[@Alphacheesehunter]

I dunno. It seems like the red airbrush is less reliable. I bought eclipse and for doing the model work I do it's brilliant. I want to check out badger's Sotar 20/20, too.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes I had a sotar 20/20 years ago and it was great I am thinking I may need to get one again just for something different 😜

[@April_idk]

Red airbrush is 5,- on AliExpress, free shipping 😂 holy moly

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Great info 😉👍🏻

[@sophiejaggerjack8048]

I just bought that one at Amazon some weeks ago and I love it :3 I just use the airbrush to apply sealant and change the skin colour of my dolls and I NEVER thought my aribrush was able to do such fine lines xD I learned something today!

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment and glad you are enjoying the airbrush and glad you found the vid helpful 😉👍🏻

[@steztoyz]

40psi? That's way excessive. Are you using an air tank and a moisture trap? If you're hooked up straight to the compressor, without a tank, then that's why you're getting pulsing in the spray. It's not the airbrush.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

I use 30-40psi all the time for general airbrushing and especially when teaching I instruct students to set the psi at this level to assist with minimizing tip dry. When airbrushing detailed artworks I then set the pressure at 18-20psi and overthin my paint, I am always hooked up to a moisture trap and regulator I also have a filter which has two toilet rolls to stop any moisture getting into my lines 👍🏻

[@steztoyz]

@@AirbrushAsylum Use an air tank and you'll get rid of the pulsing in the spray.

[@punkinsgarageandpaint8299]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. a lot of us beginners can't afford the IWATA yet.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

No probs glad you found it helpful 👍🏼

[@buddyparrot1]

An alternative to Iwata is Badger, and NO there not paying me. They are reasonably priced and of great quality.

[@FredWilbury]

You say the eclipse is due a new needle and nozzle....so my question is how many hours use before one needs to replace...I ask as I’ve just bought a Eclipse hp cs ...regards Fred

[@AirbrushAsylum]

I generally swap a nozzle on my brushes once to twice a year and I am airbrushing frequently ie...most days of the week. I use SharpenAir to keep my needles in check , hope that helps 👍🏼

[@KeeleDesign]

Your test went from controlled to ah who gives a

[@AirbrushAsylum]

👍🏼👊🏻

[@allandavis8201]

I admit that for the perfectionist and the person with money a branded airbrush like iawata is a good buy, but for those of us on very limited budgets cheaper airbrushes are our only way of having an airbrush to give us the ability to produce results that are for our own enjoyment, so my advice is buy an airbrush that you can afford without breaking the bank, and once you get more experience and decide you want a better result then upgrade, if you can afford to, but most importantly, look after your airbrush, no matter how much it cost, and it will last longer than most tutorial videos imply when they review cheaper brushes, and remember that just because it has a swanky name on it, it does not mean it’s no good, sometimes it’s the operator that is no good. The whole idea of the users craft/hobby etc is to enjoy the process and be happy with the end result, it’s your project, and the end result needs to please you, nobody else, unless you are doing commercial work then of course it has to please the person paying for it, otherwise just enjoy the process and the finished work.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes, well said i would rather someone buy a cheaper brush before investing large $ in something that they may only do once or twice. You can always upgrade later once you have had a chance to try the airbrush, that said you can’t totally compare the level of performance that a cheaper brush can handle so keep in mind that a better tooled branded brush will allow you to do so much more than a cheaper brush ever can 👍🏻😉

[@allandavis8201]

Airbrush Asylum, yeah 100% agree, I didn’t make that clear at all, my mistake. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@nopants4259]

I've had to send back 2 Harder & Steenbeck Ultra's lately as the nozzle fails after a few uses and the bubbles in the cup is a joke. I got a cheapo made in Taiwan Amazon Airbrush that was about £15 and its had heavy use for a couple of years. I wonder if Harder and Steenbeck can't handle the cleaning . I'm a stickler for cleaning after every use. I only use acrylics etc. Not buying again , If I ever go professional I'd like to know what's robust to handle airbrush cleaner and can do fine detail ( I only do military aircraft )

[@arta2870]

Cool I haven't airbrushed in nearly 30years and a lot of systems and paints have changed over the years and now I'm trying to get back into it again. Going to go with a cheep system for now and practice again. Thanks for the info.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

👊🏻😜

[@mikew9788]

I just started again after a 22 year layoff

[@MedskiPurnamski]

Have you tried the beeswax trick for the cheaper airbrush and compare it again with the Iwata?

[@AirbrushAsylum]

No, but I think I may need to 👍🏼

[@AnonOpehuev]

I have been using a red airbrush for some time now. His main problem is that he does not have a needle seal behind the paint container. With prolonged painting, this leads to the fact that the paint from the tank is blown to the trigger, dirtying the inside of the airbrush. And another problem with rubber seals, they are not resistant to aggressive solvents and chemicals. I bought this airbrush on sale for about $ 10, but still I continue to do most of the work with more expensive, albeit also Chinese, airbrush for $ 20.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment and your info re: the red airbrush. I agree, I think most of the Chinese brushes are basically a ‘lucky dip’ all in all the majority of the cheaper brushes are really only going to serve a basic purpose ie, adding basic shading, base colour and or backgrounds that said this may be enough for some people but I would recommend saving and spending the money on a name brand once you know that the airbrush is something that you will use long term. I am planning on doing an artwork with the red airbrush to show that it could still produce artwork 👍🏻😉

[@jeremy2033]

I use to use those back around 10 years now, now im back to a rookie again. What do you recommend for one thats kinda easy to work with but within the test of time and a good one? I only build plastic model kits and i wont use it but maybe 1 time a month. I need your suggestion / and anyone that can help me please and thank you!

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Depends on your budget but a great entry level brush which we use for our classes is the HP-CN Neo for iwata it has a 0.35mm needle and spare parts are available and not too expensive here is a affiliate link if you are interested in more info or wish to purchase : amzn.to/2zkHL3k Thank you 👍🏼

[@bobcammarata2338]

Buy a used Badger 150 they are the best you can fine for the most, it only will cost you about $50.00 complete . I have 5- of them an one Iwata top of the line airbrush I had the Iwata now for 5-years and haven't used it yet! There was no need to use it, the Badger 150s do the work I need to done and I am a detail artist. Good luck and keep on the airbrush track.

[@TranceTrousers]

I have a cheap Chinese airbrush that I got with my compressor. It sprays better than the £130 Harder & Steenbeck Evolution I bought recently. Needless to say I returned the Evolution for a refund!

[@fmann7545]

I have used both. I had an Eclipse , and an Iwata micron B. There is no comparison. The control with the Micron is outstanding. BUTTTT,If your not doing detailed artwork the Eclipse is a good brush . Ive used it for sign work and its pretty good for that. For doing airbrush murals on bike tanks , You cant beat the Micron for small work , However, The Micron isn't as good with the sign work because its a much smaller and finer spray

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes, the micron is fantastic but it also helps to have somewhat mastered the airbrush in order to really reap its full benefits. I agree the Eclipse is such a fantastic brush, I recommend this one to my students 👍🏻

[@IvoTrausch]

I know the Iwata's are good and all, but that red finish is super sexy

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes it is lol 👍🏼

[@dan8402]

Very nice review. I would never expect a $20 airbrush to perform at the level of a $200 airbrush. That said for those on a tight budget, just starting out, or willing to polish the needles, oil the trigger, and make sure the I rings are not flattened or destroyed these should do well. You make your living with this tool, so having the best available makes sense. I think for Amy artist when you get to the point where you feel the cheep one is holding you back, you have saved up for a nice Iwata.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes agree, it was interesting to give them a go and it will be interesting to see how this cheap one lasts the distance, I think if you are unsure of whether airbrushing will be something that you would pursue then the cheap option is a great way to start 👍🏼

[@dan8402]

Airbrush Asylum it would be interesting. Here in the U.S. we have the master airbrush brand. I think if you shoot water based paint like createx / wicked / Auto colors they should last. They do sell needles and parts for the brand here, so that is a good thing. I have a pachee siphon feed from the early 80's I am getting started with.

[@AlexBabcock-hw9iz]

Psst or a nice Badger lol

[@damaan1243]

AKA God speaks to you about airbrushes.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Lol, thank you 🙏🏻👍🏻😉

[@sourlito]

HEY I AM A SOMEWHAT NOOB TO THIS AIRBRUSH AND COMPRESSOR BIZ. I CUSTOMIZE SNEAKERS, I HAVE BEEN USING PAINTBRUSHES BUT I BELIEVE AN AIRBRUSH KIT WILL HELP ME MOVE ALONG FASTER. WHICH AIRBRUSH COMPRESSOR KIT DO YOU RECOMMEND? I DONT HAVE A HUGE BUDGET, IM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING BETWEEN 50-150 DOLLARS. I HAVE READ AND SEEN VIDEOS THAT STATE THAT A COMPRESSOR THAT COMES WITH AN AIR TANK IS BEST AS IT DOENS'T ALLOW THE COMPRESSOR TO OVERHEAT.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Hi there thanks for your compliments on my videos and in regards to your question , I would suggest with a budget of around 150 max I would buy a regular workshop compressor (hardware store should have a cheap ‘noisy’ one but with a tank) then spend the $ on a good airbrush ie Eclipse HPCS, I know quite a few people on here purchase the Master kits see following affiliate link amzn.to/2KAZXcM unfortunately I can’t comment on them as I have never used the brush or compressor, but maybe a viewer here that has one or has used it could help ? Otherwise I recommend waiting and saving a little more and you can take a look at a few kits I have listed on my amazon influencer page www.amazon.com/shop/airbrushasylum hope that helps 👌🏻👍🏻

[@sourlito]

@@AirbrushAsylum WOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HONESTY AND TAKING THE TIME TO REPLY TO ME. MUCH RESPECTED. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT A FEW MASTER COMPRESSOR KITS WITH TANKS THAT ALSO COMES WITH AIRBRUSH. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PURCHASED THE RIGHT ONES FOR THE BUDGET. I ALSO SEEN ONE CALLED THE TOOTY MADE BY NO NAME BRAND, WHICH GOES FOR 107.00 JUST FOR COMPRESSOR AND TANK. I HAVE SEEN GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT. I JUST WANTED TO ASK SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE. HERE IS THE LINK TO THE TOOTY COMPRESSOR KIT spraygunner.com/tooty-airbrush-compressor-by-no-name-brand/ I AM THINKING OF BUYING THIS ONE AND BUYING A DECENT AIRBRUSH

[@sourlito]

@@AirbrushAsylum SO IM THINKING ABOUT THIS COMBO, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK? THE TOOTY spraygunner.com/tooty-airbrush-compressor-by-no-name-brand/ AIRBRUSH www.amazon.com/Master-Airbrush-Multi-Master-Performance-Dual-Action/dp/B0067BAYNO/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=Master+Airbrush+Multi-purpose+Gravity+Feed+Dual-action+Airbrush+Kit+WITH+TANK&qid=1559968153&s=arts-crafts&sr=1-8 www.amazon.com/Master-Dual-Action-Gravity-AIRBRUSH-Model/dp/B0067AZT12/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=Master+Airbrush+Multi-purpose+Gravity+Feed+Dual-action+Airbrush+Kit+WITH+TANK&qid=1559968153&s=arts-crafts&sr=1-10 LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THIK AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE, THANK YOU ALSO IF YOU RECOMMEND A DIFFERENT AIRBRUSH , PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

[@scottmclean6301]

That shadow under the words is really impressive

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Lol thank you 🙏🏻

[@nippyhobbies4525]

@airbrush asylum, I need your opinion, Donyoubthink I should invest in a more expensive brush or Chinese brush if all I’m going to do is pruning, base coating and rarely detail. I’m going to do these things a fair amount. Cheers and thanks from NSw

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Great question...if you have the spare $ then invest in a better quality brush, if you want an eclipse and you are in NSW then feel free to hit me up and I will see what I can do price wise . airbrushasylum.com.au and send through via our contact form cheers 👍🏻

[@jeffleblanc8850]

If you want a airbrush that is guranteed for life cause that’s how they operate badger don’t buy Chinese buy American badger 10 out of 10 the best service ever and I’m not making that up if you did something to wreck it and it’s your falt then it’s not gurantee but if you just need a overhaul they take care of you I’m from Canada and they took very good care of me

[@cynthiacasey6631]

I see that you're using two hands one to blow dryer and want to hold the lever I only have one hand due to an accident I had as a baby can I still work the air brush with one hand can I use something to hold back the nozzle or control the nozzle any suggestions anything would be welcomingand of course in expensive or cheap anything with a possible stuff locking nozzle in place that will help also my friend she has arthritis so trying to hold the airbrush at such an angle a constantly holding it at the angle I'm sure will cause a bit of pain I would appreciate that you give me any advice for that will help me and her be able to create nice masterpieces signed Cynthia

[@HobbySooner]

I'm just amazed you did all that with no "spittle" from the brush. Every time I use an airbrush I have to spray to the side every time I pause to get rid of any build up. Makes me think I'm doing something wrong!

[@PanzergrauModels]

Scott Sproul He keeps the air flowing all the time thru the brush (trigger depressed). That prevents the build-up on the tip of the needle that causes splatter. But if you want to work in that manner, make sure you have a good compressor.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks , it is true using the double action technique correctly will help to minimize tip dry and in turn stop spitting of the brush and as the other comment also mentioned a compressor that can adequately provide consistent airflow will help dramatically 👍🏼

[@MrArcher0]

I wished you would have tested them both at 20 psi also. That is where the differences between the two should really begin to show capability wise

[@ThePretz33]

the reason that these tests are invalid is because of the test of time. a simple side by side will show little difference in performance( do they d the same task?) yes but how will it hold up over time. buy quality even if you are new to AB and if you don't like it others will be more willing to buy a quality item with a brand name over a lower end brush.

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Yes indeed 👍🏻😉

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Buy a nice ways if you can’t afford badger is a great company I give badger a 10 out of 10 the best customer service in the industry they take care of you basically you airbrush could be a hundred years old and they will fix it and at a very affordable charge great people they have some great airbrushes that are affordable try them out they are in Chicago ken is a well know guy awesome work ethics the best customer service I have ever seen they should get a award for customer service the best Iwatas are much more costly I have both and use the badgers more than the iwatas

[@jublywubly]

Great review. Thanks for making it. I mostly just paint models, so I didn't want to spend a fortune on an airbrush. I've been using cheapos for about thirty years. Ten years ago, I bought a $100 dual action airbrush. It works really well for the price. I still have a couple of $15-$20 syphon-fed airbrushes that I use for basic work, such as when I want to paint entire pieces a single colour. They're easy to clean because they can't be taken apart very much. I just run some white spirits or water through the cheap brushes & use a cotton bud to get into the tricky areas. The dual action airbrush is syphon or gravity fed. I prefer gravity fed. It's a pain to clean though, because there are about 20 parts. I like to give that a proper cleaning after each session of using it.

[@davenelson1571]

I'd be curious how the red anodised finish lasts after cleaning and exposure to solvents & thinners & dried ink & paint. There's likely a reason the name brands don't use it

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment and good point, I have a few Sagola brushes who use a similar finish on their handles and they hold up well , that said I don’t use thinners through them only water or airbrush cleaner but definitely a valid point, generally speaking the cheaper ‘no name’ brushes run parts that don’t hold up for the long haul , they are better suited to see if you like airbrushing and if you feel it’s the right media for you then it’s always best to spend the $ on a trusted brand 👍🏻

[@davenelson1571]

Yeah totally I like the look of them, but I'll keep my Iwata's & Devilbiss

[@johnnndoeee674]

What size needle did you use ? This is going to mislead a lot off beginners into thinking a high price will make them a pro ,this is not true one bit ,the quality might be better but you still have to know how to use one You did prove one thing if you have experience any will do the job

[@Jarhead1313]

I just got into airbrushing for my RC bodies and went and bought a bunch of Faskolor paints , TC20T compressor with tank from Amazon and 3 Master airbrushes and still having clogging problems,when you say one to one reducing is that like half and half? Like how much water or reducer should I put in the paint to be able to shoot it with no problems at between 25 to 40 psi?

[@AirbrushAsylum]

Thanks for your comment it depends on what brand of paint you are using as well as the airbrush. For detail work using my iwata cm.sb micron I mix white at 30% paint with 70% reducer and reduce my psi to approx 15-20 for general airbrushing I generally mix at approx 1:1 ratio paint / reducer and run my pressure at 30-40psi, all these mixes are when using trident or Createx paints . Hope that helps 👍🏼

[@VicOrlando]

Video didn't really explain why a more expensive air brush is better. Nozzle sizes can vary.