Chris Mason: Space Travel, Colonization, and Long-Term Survival in Space | Lex Fridman Podcast

Chris Mason is a professor of genomics, physiology, and biophysics at Cornell, doing research on the long-term effects of space on the human body. He is the author of The Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
01:04 - Human extinction awareness
09:49 - Heat death of the universe
15:25 - Alone in the universe
19:01 - Aliens
27:11 - Entropy goggles
41:25 - Genetics
49:34 - Scott Kelly
55:32 - Adapting to space
1:05:34 - Sex in space
1:08:06 - Colonizing planets
1:14:45 - Culture on Mars
1:19:11 - Commercial space flights
1:26:29 - Podcast in space
1:34:03 - Axiom Space
1:36:20 - Designing space experiments
1:43:09 - Robots in space
1:45:50 - Space exploration
1:49:48 - War in space
1:53:25 - Launch toward the Second Sun
1:59:35 - Chlorohumans
2:05:10 - Extreme microbiome project
2:11:37 - Space travel breakthroughs
2:23:36 - Clones
2:29:28 - AI age prediction
2:34:59 - Advice for young people
2:41:16 - Dark times
2:45:39 - Mortality
2:49:57 - Visiting ISS and deep space
2:51:07 - Meaning of life
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Grammarly: grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium - Magic Spoon: magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX 01:04 - Human extinction awareness 09:49 - Heat death of the universe 15:25 - Alone in the universe 19:01 - Aliens 27:11 - Entropy goggles 41:25 - Genetics 49:34 - Scott Kelly 55:32 - Adapting to space 1:05:34 - Sex in space 1:08:06 - Colonizing planets 1:14:45 - Culture on Mars 1:19:11 - Commercial space flights 1:26:29 - Podcast in space 1:34:03 - Axiom Space 1:36:20 - Designing space experiments 1:43:09 - Robots in space 1:45:50 - Space exploration 1:49:48 - War in space 1:53:25 - Launch toward the Second Sun 1:59:35 - Chlorohumans 2:05:10 - Extreme microbiome project 2:11:37 - Space travel breakthroughs 2:23:36 - Clones 2:29:28 - AI age prediction 2:34:59 - Advice for young people 2:41:16 - Dark times 2:45:39 - Mortality 2:49:57 - Visiting ISS and deep space 2:51:07 - Meaning of life

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Lex I support everything you do. I'm at a hard time in my life but I stay inspired listening to your podcast. I will keep my head up and keep moving forward ! Thank you Lex.

[@yahwea]

In my view, the concept is limited by a strictly mechanistic approach to life. What ever it may be called, human life and maybe others too, I accept from personal knowledge, is accompanied by what the religious call a spirit or soul. I am not religious, and such a thing in no way depends upon religion or faith. Death of the body begins the recycling, and means nothing. It is what one did while incorporeal that truly matters. I cannot wait to graduate from this insane setup of the 19th century robber barons we are forced to live with today. Graduation from this difficult school, will be a welcome transition. No fear of death over here.

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I love you man!

[@SMT_2024]

thanks to you LEX, Lately i think a lot about the reality of all things and i wonder if everything it is in anyones mind and if i rely to much on the ability of creating my own world, and the earth seems to be ruled by philosofs, very cleverly creators of dreams ! Hugs and kisses !

[@thisisitwithgageb.2733]

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[@BalthazorsStrategicArcana]

@@joannewilson6577 A quote by the Russian colonist Arkady Bogdanovich in the book Red Mars. I use it all the time! 😎

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@@Andre-river That paragraph made zero sense.

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Great podcast once again- love your discussions they give me hope

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I am a Brazilian from sepetiba RJ, a militia controlled área, weed leads you to beating or even death here, so, I'm smoking at home lol

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[@leonard-yp9jh]

Regarding the idea of Lex having a podcast in space, I’d really love seeing him as a crew member on the dearMoon mission next year, interviewing his fellow astronauts on the sights, thoughts, realizations and feelings they’ll encounter on the 6 days of journey. This will be a mighty moment for humankind and I am convinced there would be no one better suited (pun intended) conveying this extraordinary moment in time. Lex, I’m rooting for ya!

[@Gamerwithtaste]

Lex would be the one to have a SpaceCast

[@giiyms4408]

Listening to very smart people talk about their interests will never get old. Quality content.

[@jaalul]

Hands down Lex is top 3 podcast in the ether. Being the first to do it in space will be revolutionary

[@thealexanderbond]

Not really, he asks a lot of boring questions that go nowhere.

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​@@thealexanderbond who's better to you fam

[@jaalul]

@@thealexanderbond It's a style. You either dig or you don't. I truly enjoy his guests and I appreciate his ability to let them talk without interruption. At times I wish he'd push back more, but he's definitely a top podcast.

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What are the other two in your opinion?

[@Matthew...1979]

Ha! ...freak'n guarantee if Lex DID shoot the sh*t w/someone in space, he'd be cool as a cucumber.. I'm casting my vote for Rogan as his first space guest.

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Please never stop making these, you are contributing more to the advancement of knowledge than I think you realise.

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[@gregre99]

Thank you for bringing on biologists of various kinds. Biology is often talked about but biologist are usually not very public people. It’s fascinating to explore the minds of people that dedicate their life to explore and try to understand the founding bricks of life Sincerely, a young biologist

[@gregre99]

@Daryl Brown I’m 23, I think I’m young 😂

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Why aren't they public people if I may ask?

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Go to keshe foundation space ship institute and learn what they’re doing it’s over for all the current science sectors jobs they’ll have a new one now researching and developing what they are doing.

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@@gregre99 I think the reference was to, “young” as in

[@reneedavis9438]

How many years of Scientific study has come before you, not your specific age. May you become one of the best biologists of all time.

[@VonSolo5]

This is a deeply fascinating conversation. Thank you both!

[@i.h.sketchyart6664]

Troll

[@gonzac36]

This is my second time listening to this podcast, took me through the spectrum of emotions. So so good

[@bighornstack]

Lex, as a massive Lebowski fan, I appreciate the shout out. My dad intro’d me to the movie when it came out (I was 11, now 35). He passed in ‘18, and “Dude” reference is always a welcome opportunity to remember him. I know you’re close with your father, as was I. Cheers sir! Love your work and positivity. Please don’t lose it. It’s infectious.

[@jorges4524]

Dr. Mason!! glad to have taken part in your metasub project and thank you for inviting me to the research conference at Istanbul. best of luck 🤠

[@jamesfreeman9173]

Lex throwing in “The Big Lebowski” quote… love it 😎! Thank you for all the great content Mr. Fridman !

[@jlicato]

“We need the best morally grounded people pushing us forward”. this is an intriguing statement that the interview starts off with.

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Not one mention of Zardoz? You're both going to have to watch that movie and do another podcast.

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I think, I'm addicted to this podcast now 🔥 Thank you, Lex for wisdom and love

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You should do a podcast with a random human, just someone you meet on the street and ask them general questions about life, that would be pretty interesting lol

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I agree, however I think he would have had a conversation with them to tell if they can think. I'm not saying some people can't but it's a muscle a lot of regular people don't use.

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@@DuxGalt Can't argue that lol

[@Chops473]

“To serve as the Guardians of life itself” 💯

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Marvelous conversation, funny, serious, intellegent, human. Bravo!

[@just_golds]

Monday morning 🌄 hike to this,out with the dog listening to Lex,life doesn't get better.

[@zorzeus]

Going to watch it till the end! Timestamps look really promising! THANKS LEX!

[@mygreenmtns1749]

I just finish telling my kids that the last Lex Fridman podcast has to be his best and that they need to watch it. Then, you have another one like this one that surpasses my last favorite. Two really smart dudes talking about some extremely cool stuff. Love the laughter too. Absolutely fantastic. I gotta get his book. Thank you again Lex.

[@jackstrada5263]

We have a DUTY to master the way we live life on this planet to the level that we have no human created reason to need to leave.

[@jonanderson5137]

Time to pull out the plow, some traps, snares, fishing poles and start poaching the kings deer.

[@DCEntropy]

Thanks for another great, forward looking, podcast Lex. Great distraction from the current conflicts.

[@thelayperson816]

For the lay person to have access to “ casual convo “ with these two in truly a highlight of being alive today. These parasocial relationships give me a narcissistic feeling of being a smart tea pants

[@jessicakirsh]

I’m enjoying this interview very much. Thanks for bringing Chris onto the show, Lex.

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The best podcast I've heard in YEARS! HANDS DOWN! Love both of you and this show.

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Lex, your content - with it's sheer blend of boundless curiosity, love, and genius - brings tears to my eyes and makes me appreciate life and existence.

[@JohnDoe69986]

I wish Lex would interview a top in their field social worker whose still down in the trenches everyday. I keep telling myself if humanity is gonna touch the stars we need to do some serious work here, and quicker the better.

[@aaronhowell1132]

I found this interview to be highly refreshing and full of intellectual depth. Thanks for this one.

[@Daniel-oj7bx]

just got his book and am really excited for the read !! this is an amazing episode

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Thank you Lex for your awesome conversations with some of the most talented geniuses I’ve ever seen, selflessly supporting the grand evolvement of our beautiful Mother Earth! You rock!

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I've never wanted more, to re-watch 2001. Such a great work of art!!!

[@ac-gp3kz]

Every time I comment on a Lex podcast I feel like I'm repeating myself constantly but I was absolutely engrossed in this one. Definitely going to read this guys book!

[@rbspider]

What happens inside a cell is mind blowing.

[@TylerKoz]

The Big Lebowski reference had me cracking up 😂

[@thinkingallowed6485]

Great interview, Lex...you get the very best from your every guest.

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This is one of my favorite podcasts from you thus far!

[@tejay387]

I had to stop this half way through, just finished and WOW. What a great conversation towards the end especially

[@DeconvertedMan]

we REALLY need to spread out into space - so that humans will be out there- who knows how far we could get? We must try!

[@GK-qc5ry]

Biggest obstacle is space travel speed.

[@Alezkar]

I loved this interview. Great Job Lex! Every minute is Worth It!

[@naybobdenod]

Lex`s podcasts really are the best. Thanks so much Lex. Sincere greetings from the UK. John.

[@chrisdakins2010]

This just came on in a string of videos I never actively selected to play. Definitely intelligent conversation! Found myself wishing I could chime in several times in the first 15 mins. Good job guys……keep your brains going and keep activating your listeners brains!

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😂😂imagine that! On this media! Surely we died and went to heaven!😁

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I appreciated this video. It made me feel the understanding I possess that is different from others. Getting much too involved with earthly attachment can be dutifully exhausting, when ones' ultimate goals are productivity with what one does in life; but finding personal comfort from ones own kind of joy and happiness in the process. The greatest which YOU witness in the people I meet becomes so invigorating especially when I may have added a special something to their perfection. 🥰 THANKS LEX!

[@grandmalovesmebest]

It is most awesome to open You Tube and see real ppl, rational, sane, professional, intelligent ppl, talking seriously about not only space travel, but colonizing planets other than Earth. I think about reading, many years ago, the reprint of Isaac Asimov' s books when he wrote as Paul French (?). He wrote Forwards apologizing for the stories about men living on the known planets doing things in ways that we later knew were not possible in the way he had described, but he hoped readers would enjoy the books anyway. They were, at the time of original publication, simply science fiction. It isn't science fiction anymore. Ppl living on other planets is actually going to happen in a foreseeable future. For real. To have lived through a time of something so fantastically imagined to its beginnings in reality is the greatest privilege of having been given life in the universe. Thank you for sharing your knowledge w us.

[@user-cz8ks8ve7x]

"The essence of all beautiful art, all great art, is gratitude." Friedrich Nietzsche ... Thank you Lex for another beautiful conversation.

[@Adama_Now]

The part about wet nose / dry nose in regards to vitamin C production at 01:02:45 was fascinating. It is so cool and I am so dumb.

[@rthegle4432]

As always, a great interview

[@brookemcgilvray3781]

Excellent pod cast episode. Chris is amazing to listen to. you, Lex are also amazing.

[@babbaracos]

Loved it!! I hope you bring him back one day for another round! Thank you Lex!

[@evilbetty9204]

More of this guy please. Literally looking up any if he's published any papers.

[@wonseoklee80]

Love this episode. Lex you channel is always my great inspiration. Thank you for keeping doing this great journey.

[@robbietucker7815]

Extraordinary! I love learning via Lex Fridman podcasts

[@robbietucker7815]

@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 who asked you?

[@reyarya]

Perfect podcast. Great topic. Thank you!

[@Hoss4Blues]

A question I always (or almost always) wondered was how do you choose what world humans would first explore if and when travel to reaches beyond our solar system became possible. So many worlds!

[@ehlergoat]

Lex, you are the man. Thank you for letting me into your intriguing conversations. Amazing. I would love to have a conversation with you. We could change the world.

[@dyotoorion1835]

Chris Mason - I really like this guy! He has a great outlook on life and existence. Inspiring. Cheers! 🙂

[@marko76]

Lex, just keep going, you are intergalactic! I have felt so engaged with this podcast. I found Chris to be a gentleman, a deeply intelligent, sophisticated and intuitive gentlemen. A very inspiring man. The section at the end of the podcast where are you discussed the purpose of being human, meaning et cetera was so well articulated. I felt a real kinship with Chris‘s sentiments and realise there are as many ways of expressing the sentiment of being Guardians of the Galaxy as there are people.

[@792x33]

Keir Dullea, "Dave" from 2001: A Space Odyssey, was in a short-lived but imaginative Canadian show called The Starlost about a generation ship in which the communities living aboard in separate modules didn't know about one another. Some of the things you guys touched on were portrayed on the show. It's on the KZbins

[@lordinquis8r679]

I want to see the Passenger Pigeon, Great Auk and Ivory Billed Woodpecker brought back. We should make sure that the food and habitat are in place first.

[@ivanguettler]

I will save several parts of this discussion into my long-term memory. Thnx

[@dennismackey1297]

Lex needs an overnight AM radio show!!

[@honeymaru68]

I’ve spent my entire career as an artist creating designs for a future I won’t live in. Designs inspired by a deep reverence for nature, children, and animals. They are seeds and spores of beauty for space journeyers to take to the next frontier. I’ve felt it my ‘duty’, as you refer to, to create from a space of truth, beauty, and kindness; as well as a forgiving spirit towards the fallibility of humans. Onward & Upward

[@philtorrez4198]

As a fellow artist, this is a beautiful outlook. Thanks for keeping me inspired.

[@honeymaru68]

You are welcome,@@philtorrez4198. Thanks for making my day with your kind response!

[@obfuscateidentity2329]

Pure science fiction pure fantasy good luck with that!

[@aparson2967]

I saw this pop up in my feeds a few times - looked like it was going to be a bit academic for my tastes so I never clicked on it. I fell asleep to a different podcast, and when I woke up this one was playing. ..... Oh man, it is awesome to wake up to thoughtful conversation! This definitely drops right for a later, more clear minded listen! Great guest.

[@oooooooo1112]

Listened throughout my sleep, I don’t even know how I did it 😂

[@dhdphd]

Hey Lex, I think this is one of the most important conversations you've had on this channel. I'm a professional electrical and chemical engineer with a huge archeological fascination and past. The entropy goggles analogy has been a critical part of my enthusiastic hobby of looking for "rocks" and has morphed into a time machine in my mind. I wish for everyone, in this day and age, to understand, how esoteric their ideas really are. There is a basic reality we all must abide by, with small entertaining ventures that fill the mundane. To understand where one is and create a fulfilling future for those around them, seems to be most important. Be good to yourself and others.

[@ErnieStephenson]

I am forever thankful that there is such great content on the tube. thank you Lex :)

[@cronus8371]

Your idea of creating clones with individual ideas is central to the character of Duncan Idaho in the Dune Series.

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

Could go the 40k route. Their hive cities survive on corpse starch. Completely kidding. Just ordered Chris’s book. It’s 15-16 bucks on kindle. Also could generate gravity. There is a futurist named Issac Arthur who does an entire series on exploring space from the solar system to interstellar travel with really cool art. 10s if not hundreds of hours of video on the future of exploration of space.

[@MrLogannator]

in the future there is only war

[@silverwolf4095]

Isaac needs to school Elon on the proper pronunciation of Maws.

[@williamnutile2929]

Do you have ability to share how you contacted him? Old man 75 not in Internet world savvy of inefficient of my needs.

[@williamnutile2929]

POW

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

@@williamnutile2929 if you go to his about section on his KZbin page he has an email you could contact him. I’ve never spoken to him other than in comments on his videos but imagine a collab with you two would be great.

[@michaelmarhal]

i'm 2 hours in so far. awesome episode.!! I love discussions related to space and technology. Chris articulates his thoughts well and comes across as such a cool individual!

[@MrSpeedyAce]

I was Chris’ former lab manager, working for him for about 6 years. The world isn’t big enough for his ideas. I was actually the one who physically processed the Twin Study RNA in the study. Chris has literally blown up into a science-celebrity in the past 10 years. I was with him when we barely had any lab space.

[@highlordxeleth]

Now that's amazing content to have in the background while preparing a good sci-fi tabletop RPG~

[@healzbichgaming8500]

First off, thank you lex for another amazing podcast and for all you do. Second, exactly what i want to do is develop life support systems on space stations/Generation ships. This podcast was amazing!

[@max-qg3dh]

your podcast are the best thing on KZbin LEX. love them!!

[@natechops4993]

That was a damn good interview

[@isaactrueman3822]

This is by far my favorite Episode to date!

[@zc5413]

I am pleasantly surprised that I really love this podcast with Chris Mason. You are the best Lex. I just find your podcast so wonderfully interesting. My friends make fun of me for listening a watching your podcast so much. I am the better person for it. Thank you again. I love the questions you ask your guests as well.

[@tychostation2423]

This is the kind of stuff I can listen to all day. Thank you.

[@Captain1nsaneo]

"...and the clones that don't get a lot of likes on facebook can be quietly done away." Wow. That's a dark sci-fi novel premise right there.

[@pfcsantiago8852]

Great show, lucky to have this much information .

[@1188jordan]

Are we all just gonna pretend like he didn’t just say he could bring back the woolly mammoth???!!!

[@juliantn]

I like how you always seem so happy and excited to do the intro.

[@DeconvertedMan]

YES we MUST prevent the heat death of the universe if possible!! Man this guy, he's my kinda guy!

[@0neIntangible]

Great idea, but what Kardachev level of technology would that entail?

[@DeconvertedMan]

@@0neIntangible making stars or maybe massive blackholes to pull the universe back together again?

[@0neIntangible]

@@DeconvertedMan I've seen such proposals suggested watching SFIA (Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur) on KZbin...some really far out stuff.

[@DeconvertedMan]

@@0neIntangible who knows - but we have to get off this rock first.

[@Rezin_8]

The Lathe of humanity ⚠️♻️ Watched for the second time....absolutely LOVE these podcasts Lex!

[@zc5413]

Chris Mason, I didn't know who you were what you did, or your existence. You are so fascinating and very well-spoken and I can understand somewhat your take on the human experience and your profession. I love the you explain things and ideas. Thank you.

[@jamesgeis]

This is so creepy. It reminds me of The Twilight Zone episode called Black Leather Jackets, where aliens posing as humans were plotting to depopulate humanity.

[@mikeschneider]

Could routinely turning on these genes artificially, for example for high altitude, eventually lead to the evolution of humans who are unable to respond to natural cues to turn these things on/off? Might be worth exploring just in case. On the other hand they may be genes we use infrequently anyways, and they retain the knowledge of what to do even if not used for generations and then suddenly used...

[@dougschimpf8733]

Probably dude. These dudes need to quit playin god.

[@indieluvr]

Probably need to dial down the genes for autoimmune response first or else the human body might look at the new capability as a threat and start a biological war within.

[@GrampiesCorner]

@@dougschimpf8733 seeing how there is no such thing as a God, they cannot be playing them!

[@scottd7222]

@@GrampiesCorner nothing worse than an atheist

[@atanasapostolov2731]

@@scottd7222 Nothing worse than being a brainwashed cult follower that believes his cloud daddy is watching over him and he is waiting for him in the afterlife.

[@urbro2]

Id be happy if most of your guests would be scientists that specify in space subjects. Love from poland:)

[@colinturney8046]

One of the most thoughtful interviews I've ever seen

[@tasd5673]

Wow that was amazing 🇦🇺🇦🇺 thanks lex and thank you Chris. It was excellent and inspiring to here you both are wanting to take your last breath on mars. I have many people that say who would want to go there and die! They say you’d only get the dumb…. Well cheers to you two. You couldn’t be further from that narrative.

[@scottd7222]

Taking your last breath on Mars sounds miserable

[@tasd5673]

@@scottd7222 maybe for you but if you have had a fulfilled life here on earth why not. I guess you won’t be one of them

[@scottd7222]

@@tasd5673 I had a fulfilled life and to fulfill more. I want to die in the warmth of the beautiful 🌎 with my family i created enjoying the greatest planet ever. To die cold and alone in space sounds horrible.

[@charlynelson210]

Lex take an interview with Michio Kaku again

[@tommyburgess9095]

Imagine being this intelligent, as a normal person I struggle to fully understand however there’s something fascinating about listening to two geniuses.

[@davidhorkheimer5552]

Amazing interview and great Podcast!! Super Duper enjoyed!

[@maxemerick8107]

I'm calling it: Lex, Joe, and Elon will be floating around smoking a spliff in a dragon by '25.

[@JORBONAUT]

Falcon IX my friend; although it is damn near synonymous with dragon.

[@maxemerick8107]

@@JORBONAUT Falcon 9 is the rocket. I’m talking about the capsule, Dragon.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Floating around. Where? People have been floating around on the Space Station, wasting time , money and resources for more then 20 years... 250 miles up..... Check that out on your 12 inch globe. Pretty much Nothing compared to visiting Mars. Living on Mars is a Pipe Dream. Complete science fiction a this point. We've may have done a lot of medical tests, on humans exposed to space, since Apollo. But we have broken no barriers since then. Just more and more of the same.

[@maxemerick8107]

@@reasonablespeculation3893 I agree with you that the ISS era has been a pit of stagnation. Have you read Mars Direct? I highly recommend Zubrin’s work, he talks about the decline in productivity from apollo era into shuttle and iss

[@unusualsheep9626]

To say we are the first out of quintillion’s of planets is a bold statement.

[@jakekiddall5108]

Its mathmatically nearly impossible

[@MajorPayne175]

Yea, that didn't sit well with me either.

[@craigmackay4909]

What are UAP then lol , they’re not ours, someone is operating those craft.

[@cripplingautism5785]

@@jakekiddall5108 show me your math

[@bubblybreeze8795]

Guardians of life. A Phrase that resonated with my inner child. Gratitude.

[@gregmulligan2878]

Lex, you do some very interesting interviews. You are very good at making people think. I must give you praise. Making people think is a good thing. The world needs more of it. Keep up the good work

[@helenatrooperman4923]

Yes! Got the book! Just read the look inside…awesome. Had to get it.