Everything GREAT About Captain Marvel! (Part 2)

Captain Marvel created a divide between people. Let's fix it, eh? Or whatever, the alt title to this video would be Captain Marvel: Empathy.
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Outro Music: "Rise of the Heroes" by Jon Wright

[@beholdnonsense5100]

CinemaSins has "no movie is without sin" CinemaWins has "every movie is someone's favorite" I like that contrast/parallelism

[@vay5540]

And no movie is without win!

[@alexeratops]

That's why I like to watch both channels. Having good variety while I watch/think about these movies is good, and I enjoy both sides of this because it helps me see things about these movies that I never would have noticed, good or bad.

[@Double-R-Nothing]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[@sladewilson7933]

@@Double-R-Nothing r/unexpectedthanos

[@puckerings]

@@alexeratops DO NOT rely on CinemaSins for ANYTHING. They literally lie about things that happen in films, though most of the time it's by omission. When they point out something "bad" about a film, it's normally either a "joke" (which is what they retroactively claim when someone points out a sin is full of shit), or it's actually addressed in the film itself, very often IN THE VERY SAME SCENE. CinemaSins is terrible, and harmful to discourse about films. See various videos by BobVids or shaun here on KZbin, they explain why in great detail. CinemaSins ONLY cares whether you click on their video - they literally do not care whether anything they say is fair or even accurate.

[@nhogan84]

Came to watch a video about Captain Marvel. Ended up watching a psychology and philosophy discussion using Captain Marvel as the medium. Subscribed.

[@jeanetten.s.8557]

You got me on the first half there

[@land1877]

Same exact situation 😂

[@IndistreeHolla]

This dude is amazing.

[@Monie71793]

💯😂

[@photodan24]

"...softening to Brie." I see what you did there. If there's one thing I can support, it's cheese humor.

[@lyricbent6583]

I can't believe you didn't call it "cheesy jokes"

[@weldonwin]

That was no *Gouda*

[@darynvoss7883]

Alison Brie is reportedly going to play Greenette...

[@CherryBomb_Games]

Is that humor about cheese, humor that is "cheesy", or both?

[@boneybaron2508]

LOL didn't get that till now thank you for that

[@purpleultraviolet4923]

The "new person" thing is why I am glad about how she was handled in Endgame, playing only a small, but important, part in the final battle.

[@dankerbell]

and then they complain that she didn't do enough so she should have just not been in the movie

[@tylerferron9019]

If anything, it shows the power of thanos. We saw this character that was blowing up ships with her bare hands in the 90s, and this purple guy punches her 100 feet with a space rock!

[@purpleultraviolet4923]

@@dankerbell No we had to have some reward for the beginning of her character arch, but her character arc is just beginning, so having this massive payoff seems unearned. If she wasn't in endgame at all, it would be a massive plot hole.

[@RoguSpanish]

Exactly, she shows up at just the right time to have just the right amount of impact on the final battle, and her reason for not being there during all the other stuff is really solid. People complaining that she's too overpowered and will ruin everything are seriously underestimating Marvel. These are probably the same chumps who thought she was gonna be the one to defeat Thanos!

[@arbiterprime2145]

I really liked the way she was handled in Endgame, like you said she had an important part and they showed her power and strength, but Thanos was able to beat her as he has Centuries more combat experience and Strategic knowledge. It was really well done.

[@konnerdent4835]

Cinemawins: “People aren’t numbers. They aren’t genders, or sexualities, or jobs, or disabilities, or hair colors, or skill levels. People are people.” Cinemasins: “Scene does not contain a lap dance”

[@biraptor6205]

There is a reason why I favour one more than the other these days Because sins thinks Carrie Fisher turning around in the empire strikes back movie is hot for some reason

[@myself2noone]

How's the cherry patch today?

[@puckerings]

And yet even in these comments you have people talking about how good it is to get "both sides."

[@johnstriker480]

WELL PUT. Jeremy could learn some lessons from CinemaWins.

[@ZotharReborn]

It's almost like one is a passion project and the other is guys ripping on movies for fun and laughs. CinemaSins aren't critics, said so themselves. So stop expecting them to be and stop cherry-picking.

[@firedropper]

This is such a positive channel it feels so good after everyone is nitpicking everything

[@PowerLord83]

There's enough criticism in the movie world

[@cadenglass1387]

@@PowerLord83 critsem can be postive. He is still a critic. That is why he is awsome

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

Which is the reason why i can't watch a full Cinema Sins video: i see enough nitpicky negativity all day long irl, i just want some wins.

[@thceppur6755]

@Jayden Marvel You're kidding right? (No shade intended. Im just bad at sarcasm and i genuinely dont know if you're joking or not)

[@noahcross4888]

@@Miko36110 CinemaWins and CinemaSins are two completely different things. They are not relates at all actually. Even the creators of CinemaSins have confirmed that they are in no way related with cinemaWins. SO no alter ego channels here. Just two different channels with similar names.

[@Bballstotheface]

we need 1 episode with your wife's favorite movie and her narration it. congrats on 10 years

[@joshuahansen9797]

killerfun690 That's exactly what I've been thinking. We hear so much about his wife and she seems great. It would nice to meet her one day

[@maverickofkain]

This would be a brilliant spin for his channel.

[@diggydacious1683]

And a she could have a husband win

[@dragon9261]

Like if the wife wins had her voice going "wife win"

[@beneder0361]

YESSS

[@thekraken8him]

I was completely unaware of any "political controversy" surrounding this movie, and I loved it. I learned a while ago that angry people on the internet will try to hate/ruin literally anything, so when I started to ignore the negative noise as much as possible and I started enjoying media more. A great example is that The Phantom Menace came out when I was 9. It was my favorite movie for years because I was young and completely ignorant of the hate it received. Too many people struggle with the concept of subjectivity and get way too up in arms when others' tastes differ from theirs.

[@ncrawford5673]

Well said

[@hyperion4401]

That's different tin my case tho When I watched it even I didn't know abt the political drama behind it But tbh I found it pure shit

[@dracla1]

I feel that like the movie or not, this video is a wonderful example of the good you are doing with this channel. I know it might be hard to see it from your side of the screen but you are making things better. Thank you for your work and enjoy your much deserved time off.

[@ther3aper561]

It's also jist nice to have some positivity going around. I had to stop watching CinemaSins for a while because it started affecting the way I enjoyed movies.

[@TazarZero]

Amen~

[@petermoore6350]

10:54 “She’s not trying to hurt white dudes...” Immediately shows her character blasting a white dude across a room😂 I love your sense of timing, Lee. Well done and well said for all of the video. It’s for these kind of things I love your videos. I prefer you to Jeremy because, as Cinemawins tag line says, “it’s better to like movies than hate them”. I love how you not only dissect a movie for all it does right, you also give you own opinions in the conclusion. You’re one of the shining lights of positivity and optimism on KZbin and I hope you never change. Keep up the great work, mate.

[@THENBASTORYTELLER]

i believe they call them Pink in space culture

[@jamesultron854]

@@THENBASTORYTELLER 😂 Or blue, you know, cause they're Kree

[@taluztk.1006]

I really don't see Carol as a blank slate : we see her recovering her memories, reconnecting with her lost life, struggling with a life she doesn't fit in (the nightmares, the insomnia, the feeling she doesn't belong with the kree...). I thought her character was actually well developped in such a short time. I connected with her much better than with Wonder-Woman who I felt was a stereotype of "the powerful girl but not too much who need men to do anything and is beautiful (and everyone has to remind the audience every 5 minutes) and is a bit clueless and naive". We see her being human and emotional in the flashbacks, then fight against herself to fit in what the kree expect from her I don't feel like her talent is unearned either : I mean she was trained by two different armies, both extremely demanding and powerful (The Air force, at a time women weren't exactly welcome in the army, and the Kree), that's not exctly an easy achievement...

[@roguemeteorite6778]

I agree with everything you said. Carol definitely wasn't a blank slate and she did make sacrifices - she got powers because she was flying an experimental plane trying to save lives and then blowing up the glowing star drive about a metre away from her to keep it out of the hands of the Kree.

[@Rastley85]

I 100% agree with you! I really liked both movies and overall definitely prefer wonder woman, but I still think I connected with Carol a lot more than I did with anyone in wonder woman. That may have just been me or my experiences. Wonder Woman does take place in a much different time period and I also didn't see it in theaters so maybe my overall viewing was a little skewed.

[@oof-rr5nf]

thank you! i had an issue with that part of the video as well. also all the complaints about Carol being cocky still seem to have no point to me. i love over-confident female characters..... don't really get to see that, do we? plus she is sassy like fifty other marvel characters. i don't understand why that is a problem

[@rogue9328]

Oh, good, I'm not the only one who sees that. I was over here on Tumblr reading all this stuff about her being flat and unemotional and then I watched the movie like 'are we thinking of the same movie?'

[@thomas.02]

about the unearned part, I think it's because of 2 factors: 1 - she's hinted to be really important in the final battle against Thanos, therefore we expect a lot, and 2 - the other core Avengers characters had multiple movies to flesh out their 'earnings', whereas Carol only had one with that contrast and expectations then I think it's reasonable to see how people - me included - think Carol's journey was quite a bit rushed. But that's coming from being used to enjoying piecing each character's story together from a lot of different movies and hence having lots of things to work on. i'd make a point that the flashbacks are a quick but not detailed way to 'earn' the powers, but alas you can only do so much with 2 hours give or take. TLDR: Carol is as if not more powerful than the other Avengers, yet doesn't have the multiple-movie-spanning character arcs to earn said power. On its own, I think you make a fair point - it's decently well done; but relative to the other arcs, Carol is still at the beginning of her journey.

[@RedRemus]

I for one really enjoyed Carol's cocky swagger and Brie Larson's performance in general. Even at the first viewing it felt fresh and upbeat and her interactions with S. L. Jackson were very enjoyable. Frankly, I don't understand all the complaints about this. Robert Downey's Tony Stark turned the cockiness straight to eleven and everyone applauded. But when Brie does it for female character, suddenly she comes off as too arrogant? Double standards maybe? She is supposed to be one of the best jet pilots in the Air Force so my guess is she had to crawl up the ranks in truly misogynistic society where nothing was given for free. And she came out on top! Of course she will be a bit cocky.

[@doll_dress_swap12]

spot on.

[@arielturner3932]

@nick murphy Of course iron man/ tony starks character is more developed as cocky. He has had NINE movies to further his character 3 being ONLY about his character. She has one. If the writers tried to develop her character in the one movie she has, you would have complained they rushed her character. I think we are going trust the writers( who have experience ) on how they want to show a character rather than some nobody behind the screen no offense. That's just my opinion

[@MH-rj3jf]

It is truly a double standard.

[@HDgaming519]

I know this is posting on something a year ago and nobody will probably see it or even care anymore but I find it hard to believe that people are complaining about character backstory and stuff like that this is one movie that takes place in the 90s theres still 30 years of her story to be told calm down iron-mans story wasnt told in 1 movie it seemed like people will always find something to complain about

[@morningstarnc3264]

@@HDgaming519 A Logical arguement About Captain Marvel? Impossible. No But Really, This Voices My Thoughts

[@user-dy9ho3cd8x]

"Every movie, even the worst movie you could think of, is someone's favourite." Oof hit me right in the love I had for Catwoman and Elektra back when I was a kid.

[@RR4711]

J the Star Wars Holiday Special is so bad some people deny it’s existence but I love it, I watch it at least once a year.

[@hciapetus1251]

J - agree. While my default answer will always be Some Like it Hot (cause I absolutely love that movie), there’s one movie that will always be one of my favorites no matter what anyone thinks. And that movie is The Ice Pirates. Even my mom is questioning my tastes in movies from that. Lol.

[@brigidflanagan9585]

J I’ll admit it, I enjoyed Green Lantern when I was 10

[@carmi5451]

I used to rewatch and reenact Catwoman *constantly* as a kid. Ridiculous.

[@samuelbarber4154]

Me too with The Phantom Menace, I actually liked it!

[@yazxiii981]

I never comment much - or, like, at all - but I genuinely wanted to thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. Going into Captain Marvel, even as an optimist fan of the comics and MCU, was kind of hard to do with everything that surrounded the movie - it seemed like there were only two camps, like you said - which upset me, because everyone seemed to preemptively love or hate the movie without even having seen it. Brie is a pretty awkward person, something she even admits to; heck, I'm an introvert myself, and people tell me I come of as a 'b-i-t-c-h' because of it, even if my intentions truly were never to do anything even close to offending someone, so I get where she's coming from but still agree that (in the wise words of Archer) her Phrasing could have been better. Though about the movie, I do agree that Carol is a blank slate to a certain degree, and I say this just in regards to the MCU and my own opinions of the character(s) (because there are a lot of Badass Good Girls out there); watching Carol Danvers come to life hit me in a different way than a lot of other MCU movies/characters ever did, in terms of character development, anyway. Watching Carol on screen get knocked down, told to repress her emotions, etc...it's things I - and I'm certain many other people, but in this instance, specifically speaking for myself as a woman - have been told to do, time and again from the home, to school, and even in the work place, but no matter what I tried it was never really good enough. I couldn't be myself to the fullest extent, because it 'wasn't right' and I was miserable for it (felt held back). Carol was made to believe those same things, until she didn’t, and was better off for it. Carol is the kind of person I aspire to be, and I think that’s a big part of what superheroes are to readers/watchers (at least, it’s what they are to me); the best parts of humanity and hope everyone tries to strive for in their own lives, that everyone is capable of great things even if your circumstances don’t reflect it, and to me Carol hits closest to home in that regard. Honestly, the way I see it, in broad strokes, is that characters like Steve Rogers represent the 'little guy' that wants to do good, but doesn't have the means; Peter Parker is the everyday kid trying to live up to what's expected of them, but is also trying to figure themselves out; Tony Stark is the understanding that the world isn't so great from an ivory tower, because despite what 'perks' you may think a person has, you don't understand the nitty gritty that can taint their lives despite the glitz and glamor. With Carol, to me, she's what women and minority groups (let me preface that bit by saying I’m speaking for myself as an Arab woman) struggle through in daily lives, subjected to problems and issues others may not bat an eye at because it’s things they don’t experience - the guy cat calling her from his bike is an easy example, and one which seems to be far more common with woman, no matter how much all parties agree it’s a rude thing to do. It's not to say that these characters are only meant for 'one' type of people, but I think the diversity of what they represent is important, and by way of movies it helps storylines have those nuances of originality that prevent them from just being a regurgitated plot and character over and over again. I relate to all of them in some degree (I’m sure many people do, humans just like to find aspects of ourselves in others after all), it’s likely a big reason we love them so much; hell, for years I related really closely to Bucky during high school because of my own life experiences up to that point, and now Tony Stark hits home on a lot more of my personal struggles, but Carol’s story in this movie made me just sit back and think ‘huh…I’ve dealt with that stuff all my life, but it doesn’t mean I have to be held down my it’. A part of me feels like, yes, she was handed those powers, but another part of me thinks; Tony Stark and Thor had it all, until they didn’t and had to build themselves back up and prove they deserved to be at the top, but Carol’s been doing that all her life (as seen through the flashbacks), trying to prove herself again and again for years, so were those powers really just ‘handed’ to her? Wow that ahh...was waaayyyy longer than I intended it to be, sorry about that! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts, it was honestly nice to hear and are genuinely one of the reasons I love your videos so much; your optimism and empathy inspires me to do better in my own daily life and how I view/think of things/people, so thanks for being your awesome self! (Thank you for coming to my TED talk haha!)

[@lita2431]

this comment deserves so much praise. you deserve so much praise. that was an incredible read. thankyou cinemawins and thankyou Yasmeen ❤️

[@yazxiii981]

Stella Stilinski That’s really kind of you, thank you!

[@Hummingbirder1]

@Yasmeen xii This was very well put, and mirrors some of my own experiences. Thank YOU for your TED talk.

[@yazxiii981]

Hummingbirder1 ♥️♥️

[@roefane2258]

I absolutely love your comment and your points. I also felt like she was me for a second because: I was the only child and daughter of a man who wanted a son, and served in the military. Can’t tell you how many times I was told “stop crying” usually with expletives before it by others and myself.

[@bumblebeebee31]

Man I always thought you were cool but after this I just can't even describe how much respect I have for you. You're doing amazing things.

[@GiffyHD]

"not gonna lie, they had us at the first half"

[@gabrielalvarado3348]

Nice twist, win.

[@GiffyHD]

@@gabrielalvarado3348 *ding*

[@vasavisivaramakrishnan8177]

Steve - Rejected by the Army coz he was not fit enough Carol - Rejected by the Airforce to fly combat coz she was a woman Steve - Threw himself on a bomb knowing it would kill him Carol - Shot the engine core of the "under test" light speed engine to keep it from the Kree , knowing that it would kill her Steve - " i can do this all day " Carol - " Does not give up even after failing hard...,and gets up every time even after falling hard." I feel that her power is not "unearned" but is well deserved and well earned. If her power is stated to be "unearned" ....well then congruently Capt America's power also becomes as "unearned". And I also think that she might have even been worthy of wielding the mjolnir. But we can't see that happening now coz sadly the Mjolnir has been taken back to the time from when it was brought to the endgame.

[@tortis6342]

When you say Moljner do you mean Mjolnir?

[@vasavisivaramakrishnan8177]

@@tortis6342 Corrected , thank u 😊

[@mickys8065]

I don't disagree but at the same time half of Captain America was spent _showing_ how Steve was worthy, while with Carol we only get that after we already met her. Personally I think this comes from trying to cram two stories in one, "Carol is super powerful but needs to escape the emotional control the bad guys have over her which is something she cant just break instantly" and "Carol gets her powers and becomes super powerful" I like the idea of introducing carol as a "bad guy" only to try and turn her into a good guy, however the revelation comes way too late in the movie so the audience have already gotten used to bad guy carol and don't have enough time to appreciate good guy carol, then in endgame what few scenes she's in she doesn't act overly different to bad guy carol. (Possibly cause she doesnt really know the avengers and is just wearing a mask?) Compare her to Ironman, we start the movie seeing how he is a "bad guy" just like carol but almost immediately we are told he has to change, then we see him start to evolve into a good guy and then have iron man 2 to cement the idea he is trying to be good. Imagine if Tony from ironman 1 joined the avengers before ironman 2 was released, the audience probably wouldn't like him as much since as a character he's still changing.

[@josemarquez9454]

@@mickys8065 I like the character (Mcu) because it's like (Netflix) She-Ra they both fought on the wrong sides and decided to defend the weak, made friends and powerful (Only in different versions). BONUS there also Gay! (well adora is gay and I heard there are rumors that carol/marvel will represent LGBT) & even though there bad and not as the (80's) She-Ra & (Comics) Cpt.Marvel I still give'em a chance because She-Ra is awesome and Captain Marvel Is okay even though it sucks, it's still good. (But the actress ehhh... I'm a little concerned)

[@feanor411]

I feel compelled to make a point about the "earned" factor...it feels, to me, that I never heard debate about whether a character had "earned" their power until they started putting women in powerful roles. Did Luke Skywalker "earn" his Force powers (or Anakin for that matter)? Did we see Indiana Jones "earn" his archaeological experience? Did Frodo "earn" the right to carry the Ring? These are all pretty silly questions, and I think it's equally silly to expect Carol Danvers to "earn" whatever makes her special. It seems that's a standard only female characters are subject to! She originates as a powerful character in her own right, there's nothing wrong with that.

[@BigGuy172]

Empathy: I feel you. Sympathy: That sucks. here's your difference, and ''easier'' explanation.

[@alexwr]

I can do sympathy, never been good at empathy!

[@sinister0077]

@@alexwr Im the exact opposite... empathy is easy for me. Sympathy, not so much.

[@casualspartan4532]

@@alexwr same here, mate. never been good at empathy and I've given up on trying to get better at it.

[@Devilsprodigy99]

Compassion: I am not qualified to know if what I feel can compare to your own feels. But I feel for you.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Sympathy, though, is hard to genuinely give unless a similar amount of empathy is experienced. For you to acknowledge that something sucks for someone else, you must to a degree be able to understand and value their pain in order to deem it deserving of your sympathy. For example, if someone says they lost 5 cents, I can't honestly tell them "that sucks" because I can't feel empathy with losing something of such little value, and won't be able to comprehend their potential personal attachment to the money they own. On the other hand, feeling empathy does not immediately mean you value their hardship the same way they do, and your sympathy might not correlate with the level of empathy you feel towards their situation - like someone experiencing hardship for the first time and it's horrible for them, but you know it's something that people experience countless times in life and it just lies deep in you to not devote many emotions to such things and instead just focus on moving on instead.

[@woodscommaelle4401]

Very eloquent, thanks for sharing your thoughts! I’d love it if you’d do Prince of Egypt and/or Anastasia- two utterly brilliant non-Disney animated films imo

[@georgiaholmes5199]

Loretta or spirit stallion of the cimarron

[@paniclover4138]

Both please!!

[@simsamsammie]

Hard agree with both of these, especially prince of Egypt. Beautiful movie that I still enjoy every time in spite of my negative feelings about church and religion

[@katearcher8514]

@@simsamsammie is that the one with "When you believe" song?

[@dragonmanstopmotions]

This man has tackled The Last Jedi AND Captain Marvel. Everyone, please applaud.

[@davido.1233]

IMO, everything he does is a win, even if the movies themselves weren't totally good or bad! I am legitimately interested in his take of Crimes of Grindelwald (another movie filled with controversies!)

[@revantobias8567]

No.

[@ThatSexyNerdReacts]

Captain marvel is no where near as bad as last jedi

[@marxxofomniscience3713]

Mathew Williams I enjoyed Last Jedi more

[@catioroforasterodeloeste4790]

@@marxxofomniscience3713 me too

[@jasonsabbath6996]

I loved Brie Larson's take in Carol and though she played her like Tom Cruise in Top Gun! Of course she's cocky, of course she's guarded with her emotions! Plus, I absolutely love her interaction with Spider-Man in Endgame!

[@hayleynzlive9827]

Ooo, yes, exactly like Top Gun. Carol's allowed to be cocky, she's earned it!

[@DarkHunter047]

Carol was a female pilot in the 80s who also live with war mongering aliens and people want her to be all open with her emotions? In my head is kinda obvious why she is mostly stoic. But I imagine that are people who really want to hate Brie Larson and everything that she does.

[@petrsevcik5044]

The problem I had with it is she's cocky with nothing realy (besides energy blasts) to back it up. I guess she's supposedly a great pilot, but you don't see her piloting anything in the movie.

[@WouldYouKindlyNot]

@@petrsevcik5044 she does pilot the jet in the flashback just before she got her powers.

[@WouldYouKindlyNot]

Carol said one line to Peter and I SWOONED. So much personality in one line

[@spikejrb7572]

I mean [the Matrix] is amazing and there are a million reasons to love it. I wonder if those reasons could ever be compiled in a fun, well explained video.

[@thomasvanlangen7789]

subtle

[@bkninja3172]

One of life's many mysteries

[@nonspiderweb]

but to create such a video there would need to be an entire CHANNEL dedicated to listing everything GREAT about a film.

[@Much_Ado]

@@nonspiderweb insanity

[@kevinworytko1099]

That's crazy talk.

[@AZDfox]

You should do a video for the best movie of all time: The Emperor's New Groove

[@TheNocturnalLogician]

I didn't even know I needed that video until now.

[@mhawang8204]

Tristan Lawhorn +1 such an overlooked gem. Funnier than most comedies in recent years.

[@borucharnold9406]

@@mhawang8204 Not exactly high praise. But, yeah.

[@hyperchica]

@@DTBootlegs He's also already done Thor: Ragnarok...

[@hip2besquare632]

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!

[@squillen]

That was very well put. Its hard as hell to talk about this movie without misrepresenting one of the sides, but you pulled it off. Great job, keep it up.

[@ChinaMo]

"TRY EMPATHY FIRST"

[@Babadoe117]

I love these they are such a great way to see movies in a positive light this channel changes my mind constantly when I have negative thoughts about a film

[@adventurebonni5]

@safe space ugh.....

[@RandomGuy-gl4tt]

Captain Marvel didn't received any hate or heavy criticism. only thing that this movie got is a angry neckbeard outrage. that didn't effect nether boxoffice or general audience reception

[@redbigun]

@@RandomGuy-gl4tt Yep. No criticism. No valid criticism. Keep lying to yourself.

[@RandomGuy-gl4tt]

@safe space if you think bunch of youtubers outraging on movie will affect it. you should get out from your echo chamber

[@RandomGuy-gl4tt]

@safe space I thought manbaby complaining about women in capekino were mostly around geek and gamer chanel such a shame

[@shadelz3305]

Please do Atlantis the lost empire or treasure planet! Attempt #24

[@Moray2023]

Treasure Planet ❤️❤️

[@dylanv.4970]

Second this for the second time :P Two of the most underated but greatest Disney Cartoons.

[@hughmann8911]

They're both great. I especially love Treasure Planet. Well written and visually captivating even for a Disney film of the era. Shame the box office didn't agree

[@RedstoneCommand]

BACK OFF!!! I have been trying to get EGA Interstellar for like 5 months now!! lul

[@akaJXG]

@Shadelz good to see you again friend. Keep it up. May we both get the videos we desire

[@ManubibiWalsh]

Ok, so I understood from part 1 that you're actually up for listening, so I'm going to try to explain at the best of my capabilities (I'm not natively anglophone and the majority of my English vocabulary is self-taught) what this movie meant to a lot of women and why we defended it so staunchly, but also what I fundamentally think Brie's background was in what she said. So... it's not hard to notice how until very recently female characters in blockbuster movies weren't always treated as real characters, and too often female characters were just barely noticeable or stereotypes or just there to be ogled. Which, I mean, that's not the ultimate sin, I'm a bisexual woman and I can appreciate hot women as much as men do, but on the other hand it does feel like only men get to feel good and powerful and important, even when they're playing the bad guys. What I'm saying (and what you probably already heard) is that if you look at the history of cinema as a whole, there's a long history of women being sidelined, or just barely tolerated as part of the culture, even though we were actively contributing to it if not being the reason why some franchises even flourished. Like, who were really behind Star Trek's survival as a tv show? Female fans. Who created sci-fi? Mary Shelley. What I mean is women contributed to fan culture and media as much as men did, but somehow me and too many other people grew up thinking media was entirely a men's thing, so it makes sense to be shocked when you discover actually women were a part of nerd culture and comic book culture since the very beginning but simply went uncredited, which means women in this field - and in the STEM field, but that's a whole other topic - were treated unfairly and it's legitimate for women to be angry about it. Now, in the last decade, women have started to enter the industry, actresses have started to make themselves heard, enter production, gain power in order to tell their own stories from their own perspective (because sorry, a man trying to talk about women's experiences will never be as accurate as a woman talking about women's experiences, at best a man can get some aspects of it but not all of it and the same goes for women talking about men, which is why I'm not talking about how men experience life and I have a lot of respect for men overcoming their own unique problems, but you also don't see women trying to act like they know what being a man is like whereas too many men have been acting like they know a woman's life better than women do). But this has largely only been benefiting white women (and going even deeper, cis heterosexual white women) and Brie came from a place of realizing that female empowerment doesn't only have to be about a very specific subset of women who already experience some level of privileve (whiteness, straightness, being able-bodied, being cis etc), otherwise it's not "empowerment for all women" but only "empowerment for SOME women" and that's the same problem we had before, but with more people being thrown under the bus. So, in this context, it makes sense to react to critics shitting on A Wrinke In Time and noticing they were mostly white men and being unhappy with that, because if a movie is clearly made for a specific audience and has a meaning of empowerment for people who never get uplifted, the opinions of someone who could never understand the meaning of it and thus does not care for the cultural meaning of that piece of work, they are... irrelevant. Really. Because yeah, a film critic is supposed to be impartial, but they'll always come from a subjective angle. Now, had there been more black women writing reviews for that movie which was mainly for them and empowering them, it would have created a fairer balance in reviews and opinions. Maybe Brie's delivery was off, but men really overreacted, especially because she was NOT talking about male viewers, she was talking about white male CRITICS. She was not criticizing the audience, she was criticizing the industry. So it really does not make sense for randos to get so mad at her when when she wasn't even talking about them. It's really hard for me not to sympathize with her, because from my perspective she was simply arguing for giving minorities representation not only on the screen but in the industry, and as someone who understand what being othered feels like, that's really noble and good. And when I see someone acting so petty about something that wasn't even that offensive compared to what women in the industry have to deal with... sorry, but I'm human, and anger is a completely human and natural reaction. Men have been dominating the arts and entertainment industry for centuries, and it's only fair for women to join these fields now. It's just fair. And as Brie said, nobody's taking anything away. What she wanted to do was to propose to add more seats, perspectives, ideas to the table, that's simple as that. And considering how bland and stale Hollywood movies are now, there's a real need for fresh ideas and new perspectives. Art thrives on novelty, on change, on moving on from the old. The entertainment industry and the arts only have good things to gain from more voices and experiences and perspectives being added in, and it's literally a win/win for everybody. I don't see what's bad about that. And about the hurt feelings... men, women have been dealing with dehumanization, attacks to our body autonomy, humiliation, rape, battery, economic and trauma directly caused by gender injustice for a very, very, VERY long time, all things we still feel the ripples and repercussions of (no, sexism is not over, our culture is still full of old patriarchal structures and mindsets so yes, we're still suffering from all of that shit) which men never had to deal with on a gender-wide scale as men were always at the top of every social pyramid all over the world. I'm sure you can find it deep in your hearts to deal with a widdle bit of hurt feelings and move the fuck on. Nobody's taking your movies away, we're just adding more movies and more audience engagement. Which also benefits you. There is literally no loss here. It's a win for everyone. That's the perspective of what Brie was saying. But it takes context to understand where she was coming from. As for her tone and delivery, it's no secret that she has been suffering with social anxiety for a very long time, and I suffer from that too. And let me tell you, it's really easy to be on the defensive when you grow up assuming everyone is ridiculing you or hating on you. But of course, nobody really cared, their feelings of outrage HAD to be prioritized over someone else's actual message. If only these men had actually calmed the fuck down before jumping to conclusion. I have next to no hope for those men to actually read and understand what I said and to get that I come in good faith, but for everyone who's willing to give me the benefit of the doubt: women are not trying to destroy men. We just want to be seen and uplift each other as life for women, historically, has always been shit. I'm sure you can understand this and not see it as evil. It all comes down to whether you *want* to understand or not.

[@Angelawyuan]

More people need to see this.

[@trevingrayek8292]

This helped me understand so much. Thank you.

[@jey.m1n]

Thank you for saying this.

[@tuhimerameraa1]

You're seriously a genius for analyzing all this.. 😍👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Scaramouchemusic]

I've only found this video (and thus your comment), so I'm late to the party, but THANK YOU for putting this into words! I appreciate you putting the time and effort and emotional labour into this comment.

[@michelletheia9853]

So, I've watched this video multiple times, and I *adore* your channel and your reviews. They are very heartening in this dreary world. That said, I think you're missing a very important point in the discussions about this movie. Almost no one is saying that men hate it because "Woman lead bad." Sexism is so much more subtler than that for most people, for most cases. We live in a society that has, especially for those of us over 25, inundated us since our earliest memories with images of who should be celebrated and who should be derided, teased, and/or snubbed. A cocky, self-assured, un-sexual, masculine woman absolutely falls into all of those categories. So when some of us say that a vast portion of the criticism of this film is fueled by misogyny, we aren't talking about knuckle-dragging cave-dwellers make "get me a sandwich" jokes. We are talking about the knee-jerk reaction that many have to seeing this type of character. Human beings are *not* rational animals, we are *rationalizing* animals. We have a reaction, then seek to justify it, and it takes a LOT of effort to break past this. As a trans woman who didn't even realize I was trans until much later in life, I have experience in this, in deprogramming myself from the reactions and assumptions I'd had programmed into me by our rather ridiculous society. 10 years ago I'd have likely reacted to CPT Marvel the same way as many of these men. "But what about Ripley, and all the other strong women in film." Ripley's arcs in each movie were still tied to feminine tropes of one sort or another. As another commented, Ripley is shown in her underwear, but beyond that she is subservient to a man and she risks herself (in both of the first two movies) for a sort of maternal instinct drive (first for the cat, then for Newt). Also the love story comes out in the second movie too, even though he dies. WW is in sexy armor. That movie was about as empowering as anything that could have been created (I teared up during the trench scene, as did many other women, and I'd only known I was a woman for a couple of years at the time), but it still hinged on men, on Dianna responding to the actions of men, being motivated by them; she was taught the world by Steve, nearly convinced by Ares, and redeemed by Steve's love and sacrifice. For all of her strength and take-no-shite attitude, and despite how great a job Patty Jenkins did, WW had relatively little agency except for in the aforementioned trench/town battle. She has some awesome, take-no-sh!# moments, but she's a bit of the "Born Sexy Yesterday" (PopCulture Detective has a great video on it kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqXLoXivetycbpI) trope in there. And in Justice League the problems are tons worse. With Alita, she's the epitome of the BSY trope, along with, again, having the main fuel for her story be a man and her love for him. Look at every "great, strong women" that people who hated this movie point to and you will find a romance plot or a hyper-feminine activity going on, or sexualization/subservience to men. Put up a woman (or four women *cough* Ghostbusters 2016 *cought*) who have none of those things, who are never sexualized, who barely even talk to men except in being smarter than them or overcoming them, who prove men wrong or knock men down, and you will have a hoard of people, mostly men, ready to deride it. So yes, in some ways it is still a problem of people screaming past each other, but not in the ways you think, I believe. Do those things you cited happen at the fringes of the conversation? Sure, and in the toddler-hood of the internet those margins suck up a LOT of oxygen, but the main of the conversation is more nuanced than that, just as the problem of institutionalized misogyny in our society is nuanced, layered, and usually subtle as can be.

[@gabi2603]

your review is absolutely incredible. thank you

[@marrrst]

Wow, so well said. Thank you for taking the time to put this into words!

[@gabbyberlingieri1480]

Preach! I love the way you put all of this together!!

[@decenng8250]

This!! Thank you!!

[@jerilyncruz5069]

Incredible!! Very well said!

[@hiddenechoes]

I love you, thanks. Give your wife a win from me for having a reaction that made you reexamine yours. Give yourself a win for not telling her about the controversy around it so she had an untainted reaction.

[@emanuelii3102]

This man is wise af, I wish to be like him whenever I grow up and have my own family, he’s open to everything and isn’t on sided and although he has his own opinions he’s open for everyone else’s ... empathy ... GREAT VIDEO

[@DonnaBrooks]

You give me hope for the young men who are fans of this genre! So many people tried to undermine this movie before it even came out & did everything they could to squelch the anticipation we felt after watching the second CM trailer & then, after the movie's release, proceeded to spread their hate all over the internet where fans who loved the movie were just trying to enjoy discussing it with other fans! It's like they made their life's work out of making us miserable, giving bad ratings to the movie, & hating on Brie Larson. Thanks for recognizing CinemaWins as a GOOD ROLE MODEL of how to have intelligent discussions about movies and how to be open and empathic in the larger world. (P.S. My fave reactions to the second CM trailer weren't women; they were young men who were excited to see the movie! That took courage when so many of their peers were so vocal in trying to undermine the film.)

[@umbra014]

@@DonnaBrooks Sorry that you're ok with a bitch insulting white men. Literally all the people who are "bashing" on the movie and Brie Larson are only reacting to what brie Larson and the movie said, not just hating the movie blindly. So if you would stop being biased, those "bashers" are the victims who are nice and empathic until a bitch came on stage named brie larson and said she doesn't give a fuck about straight white guys

[@LadyLightningstorm]

When I watched the movie, I didn't know people were debating about it as they were. Honestly, I didn't even know who Brie Larson was. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and I thought her general lack of visible emotions worked in context. Possibly just because I could still read what she was going for. I've since heard about the arguing, though I haven't really paid much attention to it. I saw a few clips of Brie Larson in interviews and I agree with you; I don't necessarily disagree with what she's saying, but the way she says it. It's just the sort to unintentionally cause dislike and defensiveness.

[@definitelynottommywiseau3037]

if you don't know who brie larson is, i urge you to watch room, short term 12, 21 jump street, scott pilgrim vs the world, the spectacular now, and free fire.

[@simpleyetcomplex]

Same here. Never knew who Brie Larson was or whether the internet was just being assholes with the whole meltdown with her. I really enjoyed myself with the movie and it made total sense why each actor/actresses portrayed each character.

[@ralfsstuff]

That whole controversy felt so fabricated. At the time, YT felt like a place full of toxic and onesided comments on Brie Larsson and how she ruined the movie before anyone has seen it. I wanted to see a decent Marvel movie and that' exactly what I got.

[@JuanJose-bc2gs]

Same here

[@Anduril74871]

It doesn't help that a subsection of fans of Alita Battle Angel tried to go out of their way to torpedo Captain Marvel and because they had a loud voice on Twitter, I've seen some news sites claiming that fans of Alita are actually women haters and such nonsense as that. It's sad because I loved Alita Battle Angel and I didn't see Captain Marvel as direct competition. The reason I think Alita didn't set the box office on fire is marketing and it being a largely unknown property.

[@gin.590]

But fuck DC films right?

[@ralfsstuff]

@@Anduril74871Yeah, Alita ist great but underappreciated. Wasn't there some bs debate about Alita looking to feminine?

[@d.j.2408]

Yeah, Captain Marvel's not my favorite MCU movie, but it's still really good. As for all the hyperbole around it, I've seen how people that aren't white men are treated by society, and how happy those groups are when they see someone like Carol or T'Challa on-screen representing them....so Brie's comments about this stuff really don't bother me. Maybe she could've worded things a little differently, but maybe those who felt offended are just a little too sensitive? I mean, I'm a white guy, I've never been discriminated against, so I'm not going to pretend I know a damn thing about the inner workings of stuff like the Civil Rights Movement or the Holocaust. But even so, if I WERE, I would want things to be better for people like me. At the risk of pissing people off....most white men really don't know what it's like to be spat on, put down, or marginalized simply for having a certain gender, religion, skin color, etc. It's easy to say "racism is over and women are equals" because YOU'VE never treated anyone/been treated like that. But other people....THAT'S where this behavior needs to improve. Again, I'll never know what that's like, but I can certainly imagine. So for people who feel the need to put down other people when they push for more equality....all I ask is that you put yourself in their shoes and look at the bigger picture of history. Maybe then you'll learn some really important things. Alright, I've prattled long enough. Peace out. :)

[@huntcd2012]

I think what bothered me most about the controversy is that while some of the people defending this movie went about it the wrong way, particularly those that just throw out the word sexism, it felt like the ones criticizing it were going out of their way to demonize everything associated with the film for no real reason. Like there have been several KZbin Channels that have spent the last several months criticizing Brie Larson while also fully admitting that they are just doing it for the views. They’re intentionally fanning the flames of fury for no reason other than they’ll get more money because they do and some have even cried foul and declared a conspiracy is afoot whenever their videos wind up getting flagged or demonetized since they just lost access to their golden goose. It makes it hard to find people with honest criticisms because the angry trolls are occupying the top spots on the search bar making the whole experience of trying to talk about the film feel tiresome and tedious.

[@swanpride]

Well, wasn't it sexism to make over hundred videos attacking everything about the movie and the main actress, from her supposed lack of smile down to her but? Who exactly do you think went "overboard" with pointing out what this hate campaign actually was (I am not sure if the actual creators of those hate videos did it out of conviction or for the money, but I don't think that it makes a difference, since the result is the same)? Show me anyone, just ANYONE who ever claimed that Captain Marvel is the greatest movie ever because "female lead"? If anything there aren't enough voices speaking up against the unfounded hate campaign. I mean, the movie is now out on home video and they still haven't stopped. Now they are doubting the home video sales, blaming Captain Marvel for the failure of Dark Phoenix, and they are still discussing of Carol is a villain because of a f... deleted scene. I still have to wade though a lot of nonsense to find the occasional video in which someone does a honest review of the movie.

[@dragon9261]

@@swanpride Come to pinterest my friend, we're swarming with people who think the movie was great because she was a female lead.

[@2dheethbar]

What bothered me most is that there are some people out there who just want to find everything wrong about anything in life, be it a movie or song or cartoon. Those people will always state their extremely pessemistic opinions without regard to how it negatively affects nice people, and it is the reason they will never truly be happy. e.g. "I hate this movie. It's totally woman-washed." when it should be "huh. Not great, but not terrible either. At least the writers tried." Then again, someone will always say this is their opinion. Well, I say, "if you don't mind sounding like someone with passive aggressive personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder and either being ignored or argued against, then try seeking psychiatric help before 'expressing your aggressive opinion again solely to upset people who won't agree with it instead of simply giving an opinion'."

[@thechad7643]

It's not the film or the character, not really anyway, its what they represent that most are opposed too. The abusiveness of PC movements have always risen and fallen, Prohibition and Mccarthyism are two examples, but this recent resurgence has been particularly insidious as it appropriates geek culture mediums and insults the fans when they take offense of their hobbies being used for socially and politically abusive ideas and agendas. They hypocrisy of this is many heading up such projects say their ideas are too important too be silenced, but have no problem silencing and/or attacking critics including harassing children. Captain Marvel takes two longstanding characters in the comics, the actual captain marvel which is traditionally a man, and Carol Danvers AKA Miss Marvel, and applies modern PC culture to her, and demands geek culture accept this or they are sexist. I personally think this PC culture resurgence will implode rather than fade away as its become far too fanatical and abusive for those involved to just accept a loss and go back to their corners.

[@ArividerchiMagmuasue]

@@dragon9261 Damn, pinterest sounds like a terrible place

[@Nhailum]

The reason i spend 42 minutes watchin this is because of you. It's a movie i did not like or dislike, but i know that i will like it and understand it more after watching you talk about it. Thank you for your work, and keep it up!

[@aidanzuzenak2416]

safe space do you have a life? You've commented on every single positive comment on this video?

[@dankerbell]

*opens comments* this is where the fun begins

[@andiran23]

​@@lennynero8614 "But Disney bought seats, my theater was empty, it's a conspiracy!" (I'm not kidding, I've read dozens of guys claiming that)

[@shirshanyaroy287]

@@lennynero8614 "Get woke, go broke" they say Conveniently ignoring how getting woke is actually bringing in more money.

[@Kenzokian]

@@shirshanyaroy287 Um. Not to sound negative but many game companies have died or at least lost money for this reason. E.g: Sony (latest game censoring announcement) and EA (BF5 was having loads of backlash and is dying) both are giants but are somehow losing money whrn they are forcing their beliefs on to people.

[@zachcreaghcoen2389]

Shirshanya Roy people were told they had to watch this for endgame that why it sold so many tickets

[@redbigun]

@@shirshanyaroy287 Yes. The two examples you people have. But, don't look at the dying comic sales, all of the dying game companies, Ghostbusters 2016, Dark Phoenix and the list goes on. Don't look at that stuff. Just look our two examples that made money because of better movies.

[@_mad_cat_]

3:05 "Diametrically aposed" Hamilton fans: FOES

[@conormurphy7017]

The emerge with a compromise having opened doors that were previously closed

[@brysonalley9298]

BROS

[@MsAngel0008]

YES!

[@wajmgirl]

People were okay with Gamora and Natasha because they were also “sexy”, with shampoo commercial curls, pouty lips, and plunging necklines. They were flirted with, flirted, and were pursued sexually/romantically. Actually, a majority of the ones you mentioned kind of lean that way.

[@christietheys2329]

Thanks a lot for articulating this. :-)

[@simrantapaswi8345]

They were also not the main character.

[@aaronmazur8056]

@@simrantapaswi8345 what about the other 7 movies he named having a female main character that people loved? It's not the woman that's the issue, it's the attitude. She's a the male equivalent of a cocky douchebag.

[@skyscreamstudios]

I tend to judge movies on the merit of the film. Captain Marvel entertained me. I definitely didn't feel ripped off when I left the theatre. Bought the Blue-ray. The MCU has taken a lot of my money over the years. lol. Enjoy art for the art.

[@devdev5055]

just like the movie, art today is shit

[@verscont1505]

DevDev Maybe to you, but hey, a lotta people are over here appreciating current art and seeing the good in it

[@devdev5055]

Verscont and I don’t like politics in my movies but we don’t get what we want

[@w1ndgeneral226]

@@devdev5055 Then just ignore it.

[@mandalorebard7573]

@@devdev5055 I never got the feelings they were 'shoving politics in our faces.' Please elaborate on how it did that?

[@finnadegreef474]

This video made me tear up, I came here to hear something actually positive about brie but what I got was a lot better. I really hope that people watch this and get a better understanding on people, how regardless of any label we are all still human. Thank you so much for using your platform to inspire thought and provide more understanding. Thank you

[@Bethgael]

Hear, hear.

[@cjc363636]

I, uh, 'third?' that? Anyway, Brie said some over-all positive statements in a truly clunky way. And in the tweet-happy, easy to get offended world we live in, those statements got twisted and reframed over and over again. The anger was so (and is) so intractable, one could almost think she'd crossed into ISIS territory and did a press tour like Jane Fonda did 50 years ago. Over a press junket question about inclusion. Anyway, thanks for your channel. Listing the good and positive things art gets right is a much needed antidote for whatever the heck now has become.

[@marlom7882]

Finna De Greef yea exactly we are all humans and humans are shit. Have a nice day

[@ArividerchiMagmuasue]

@@cjc363636 What? No comments she said were "twisted" or "reframed". She said truly racist things and people don't like that, simple.

[@dr4c0blade]

2:07 Have to disagree there. Marvel is chock full of potential cosmic-level threats -- Annihilus and the Annihilation Wave, the Phalanx, the Shi'ar Empire and Gladiator, the entire Cancerverse, Randu the space parasite, Aegis She Of All Sorrows and Tenebrous Of The Darkness, the Builders -- and yes, I'm purposely ignoring the most obvious choice of Galactus and his various heralds, just to illustrate how much is out there. Trust me, there is no shortage of ridiculously OP threats for Captain Marvel to clash against in the wider universe.

[@absolutecarnage777]

Also small threats that she can't fight normally (see Siege: Spider-Man).

[@davidmcleod5133]

@@absolutecarnage777 Her first encounter with Venom? That was one of my favorite Carol Danvers moments... EVER!!! And as for the “She’s too overpowered, it’s boring” sniveling... I’m old enough that I saw the Christopher Reeve Superman films in theaters. In well over 40-years of Man of Steel media consumption, not once... NOT ONCE... have I ever heard a fraction of this many people say he was boring or stupid because he was “too powerful.” And for chrissakes, he is WAY more powerful than Carol is at any point in the comics, even as Binary! How can anybody look at that fact, and conclude there’s no misogyny involved?!

[@absolutecarnage777]

@@davidmcleod5133 You've never heard the argument that Supes is too OP? That's literally everyone's biggest complaint about any Justice League property. Just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People have been complaining about OP characters for a long time. The misogyny is in the review bombing of the film, not in actual complaints about how Endgame wrote her out of 90% of the movie because they couldn't figure out how to give her a challenge.

[@silverash3987]

@@absolutecarnage777 I know I'm probably late to this party, but the whole writing her out of 90% of the movie cause they couldn't find a challenge for her is false. It is said in a couple of interviews that she was filming captin marvel as well as endgame at the same time, so due to the conflicting schedules, she was only able to appear in a few scenes. Being near the beginning, as well as the final big fight. And going into the op characters debate. Yes, I see the reasons why op characters would be hated on, and more. But I feel like Carol just hasn't got a good fighting chance yet because her time on screen as well as her story progression being limited. This was her first time being introduced into the MCU in movies at least, and as a result, when she was in endgame, many people just rolled their eyes or complained about her being overpowered and called it a day. Although we haven't seen an end to her power, who knows! We may in upcoming movies, or more. We don't know what the writers are planning, therefor we shouldn't fully judge a newly introduced character. (And before this becomes a heated debate, I hear and respect your thoughts on the matter. This is just my personal outlook, and you are more than free to disagree. Anyways, hope you have a good day, and I hope I didn't ramble on too much.)

[@WriterisCooper]

The positivity! It's so wholesome! OH GOSH! AHHH Oh and I just liked the movie, it's just goofy and I get it

[@jonnyp1340]

I feel like Brie was so underused in this film tho. I could feel her doing everything she good to put accross a good performance and being held back by the script/directing in many scenes

[@masked_mizuki]

She statistically is not really underused though If you look at the respective screentimes of MCU leads, and how much it is compared to the overall runtime of their movie, only 3 people have more than Carol: Tony in Iron Man 1, Peter in Homecoming and Strange in Doctor Strange. Every other movie is either a team movie, which are hard to measure since what really counts as the protagonist there, or has less protagonist screentime. Trust me I was surprised too how far at the top she was.

[@jonnyp1340]

@@masked_mizuki what I mean by underused is her acting skill. She's a better actor than what the script/directing gave her

[@turtletrekker86]

Agreed. Any problems this movie had were in the direction and script. The cast was top-notch and they all nailed their roles.

[@colemanpittser]

I want to see him do up just because of the marriage scene. One of the greatest emotion inducing scenes ever without a single word

[@Z-score8786]

It's already done Edit: just checked yup

[@RevCQ7]

*Laughs in Pixar's UP*

[@nickclark1815]

If Solid Snake showed up in LOTR I'd probably be mind blown and very confused.

[@Alpha121198]

“Holy shit Tolkien was REALLY ahead of his time!”

[@rosesongoku6980]

“Kept ya waiting, huh?...” (aims rocket launcher at Sauron’s eye)

[@duskflower8825]

I wish I could like this video multiple times. I wish I could’ve given it one like at 4:12, because that was hilarious but also very accurate, another at 12:52 for the surprising truth and empathy amidst ( scorching debates that villanize people, 15:16 for the utterly hilarious visuals, 15:45 for the silly but entirely accurate summarization about what Captain Marvel does get wrong, 16:16 because I never expected to see Tom Bombadil in all his glory in a video about Captain Marvel and because this is already the funniest video I’ve seen all week, 18:30 for making me feel both touched and...dare I say...validated because that’s so, so true for me as a woman even more than I realize. I love the Lord of the Rings but it is mostly a story about men (though I do love Eowyn and Galadriel and Luthien and Melian and, to a lesser extent, Arwen mostly because they, albeit often immortal, are like me). I love these men, as characters, and am touched beyond reason by the courage and brotherhood and the Ride of the Rohirrim, but there’s still a definite divide. I love Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc, but the only person who looks like me is Marion and her sole purpose for that movie is to scream and provide *~*motivation*~*. I didn’t always realize that gap between movies and myself until I saw the 2017 Wonder Woman movie and I discovered tears in my eyes and chills running up my spine. The new Tomb Raider movie had a similar effect, flaws and all, because here was a woman who did Indiana Jones-type feats (though I won’t say the movie was as good because Harrison Ford) and wasn’t busty and sexualized that didn’t made me feel...icky. I felt that a little with Dark Phoenix when much of the (weak) theming turned out to be about setting your emotions free when I hoped for something more like Magneto’s arc and how I could look at a calendar and note that it would be a few years before there was another female-led superhero movie that I could hope would disappoint me less (it’s weird to me how much it matters, even when I try to brush it off). I want to see movies that aren’t just about women being empowered (I’m bored with that now) but about ridiculously egotistical and quippy women being humbled like Tony Stark or struggling with their perceptions of honor and their country like Captain America or struggling with their weakness as someone who is used to being a literal god and seeking revenge like Thor or stepping into maturity and responsibility like Spider-Man in a world that can so easily turn on him that he just wants to be an ordinary kid in. In short, stories about women that aren’t just about being women (which are also great, just as “stepping into manhood” stories are great too, but shouldn’t be all there is). And I got sidetracked... Anyway, thank you for your empathy, your thoughtfulness, your ability to recognize the qualities in art and how they affect people while also challenging it to become better. As a lover of stories, as a writer of stories, as a fan, as a human being who is learning to see other human beings for their nuances in both art and life, thank you. P.S Please do Song of the Sea. I think your wife would like it.

[@Kalnaur]

Oh my god, Song of the Sea is beautiful, and I cry every single time I watch it. Every time.

[@h.rtheater8321]

This is a great comment! Since I'm a man, I probably can't say the exact same thing that you said, but as part Native American, I can kinda relate. Because everytime they portray one of my ancestors on screen, it's always with then being savage like and all that. They started to change that, and I'm glad about that. I'm glad that Lee liked your comment and I'm just wondering why it doesn't have more likes.

[@azofeclipse]

Captain marvel isn't that overpowered. Yes, she has a SWEET powerset, but individually none of the powers are something we haven't seen. Blasts, decent STR, decent toughness, flight - and her unique is really FTL flight. I'm more annoyed by how Vision got treated in Infinity War. He had blasts, flight, decent STR, decent toughness, computer mind and phasing, but lol no you don't get to have nice things, Vision. Arguably Vis seemed to be OP in his first appearance.

[@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115]

Exactly. I mean, doctor Strange could lead with her doing astral projection on her, or Mantis could make her fall asleep. She does is very powerful, but she isn't that overpowered.

[@angelking3708]

People watch Captain Marvel and say she's overpowered because she easily blew up a bunch of ships but, Thor could do that just as easily and more so I don't really get how she's the one who's overpowered.

[@tidbit2190]

I only accept "she's too overpowered" as THE reason to dislike Carol from people who also hate Superman. If you like Superman, then... Carol is pretty close to a female Marvel version. And I get that the bland, blank-slate type powerful escapist fantasy character isn't everyone's thing, I just ask that people be honest with their opinions rather than hypocritical.

[@barisbal7782]

i dont hate op characters as long as they use their story arc clever. i hate how these massive powers make the situations pointless because they can be easily handled . however when it comes to this character i didnt see that problem. she had vulnerability and real challenge.in her own movie thanks to that chip on her neck she was massively depowered. she reacher her true powers at the last 20 minutes of the movie. that is why; talos managed to kidnap her skrull's managed to put up a fight against her yon-rogg knocked her out effortlessly when she fight against the supreme intelligence her brute force was useless. if it wasnt for her character development and self realization, SI was about to consume her until there is nothing left except vers. even when she got stronger after beat SI, yon-rogg and star force managed to put up a fight against her in endgame she couldnt beat thanos. neither at her first attack by her own mere strenght nor after the second attack that absorbed energy from the stones and strengthening.

[@ManubibiWalsh]

Yeah, Vision really wasn't treated well. I mean, I don't really care for him as it is, but then again I didn't care about a lot of Marvel characters before and the movies made me love them. But Vision... my interest stayed really low. And I know that's not because of the character being uninteresting, but because of how many missed opportunities there were for him, and that's a shame. I'm sure that with more attention given to him, I would've loved him as much as I love a lot of other characters in the MCU. If you're a fan of his, I'm sorry about how he was treated and about the missed chances to make him really shine.

[@bryanmanuelsalguero4729]

I watched the movie without knowing nothing about the controversy, so I really liked almost everything in it :3

[@TheBigfatmadcowmoo]

Same, didn't know about the controversy until after. Wasn't expecting anything from it so it was simple entertainment. A little cheesy at times but that was my only observation.

[@peytonr6220]

safe space Can you like shut the fuck up you neckbeard bitch and stop trying to ruin something for other people, I personally dislike captain marvel but im not going to try and put other people down because my life is so bad.

[@coriusfarinprimarchofthese7007]

I was the same way as you, only that I didn't find out about the controversy until months later. It was a good movie, for what it was. It was a popcorn flick, meant to, as CinemaWins once said "make your popcorn taste better" and I think it accomplishes that.

[@findijs3525]

@safe space You are sorry that someone enjoyed something? That is a good thing.

[@rogueguardian]

I'm white a dude, I like seeing woman kick ass, honestly everything Brie said about the critics doesn't matter to me, and here's another thing, I don't think Brie is a bad person she needs to work on her people's skills yes, but I don't think she deserves all the hate she has gotten. Hell if you see the behinds of the film Brie seems to be having a blast. Working with Stan was probably life changing for her. She has my respect but she has some work to do.

[@cameronrivard5624]

Rouge Guardian yeah, I think that goes with the whole “people are people” thing because I think she often feels very nervous or uncomfortable doing those types of things and never knows how to word herself correctly

[@sarar4270]

100% agreed. You're the only I've seen that's so open minded about Brie

[@CGCentralHD]

She didnt event say anything wrong tbh all she meant was she wanted everyone to have the same opportunities and people twisted it and it blew up. It was fake outrage, tom holland said something similar lately and no one even seems to care

[@sarar4270]

@@CGCentralHD EXACTLY

[@kimberleymorris8052]

Brie could be autistic which is why she doesn’t have good people skills

[@whazee]

I guess I was lucky to see the movie before hearing about Brie's offscreen behaviour. I thought the movie was fine. I thought Brie portrayed a very subtle and self controlled "warrior/pilot" as scripted and directed. That was her character. Any faults in the movie really just went against the writing and directing which was pretty bland.

[@TroublingStatue]

I went into this movie blind too. I only heard some indication that there is controversy around this movie when it came out, but I never followed up on it because I didn't really care to be honest. It was solid, on the level of Phase 1 movies I guess you could say. Had a fun time watching it and I sure as hell don't have any intention of looking up the controversy now.

[@navnavnav2255]

@@TroublingStatue I enjoyed the film as well and find the Phase 1 assessment to be pretty accurate. But we're 19 movies in at this point. I think the issue for Marvel is that with such an expansive universe established now, origin stories can seem pretty standard by this point. I feel they need to find more ways to introduce characters through other films like they did with Spiderman and Black Panther in Civil War. So the characters' solo movies can jump deeper into their stories.

[@jamesultron854]

@safe space again you

[@jamesultron854]

I didn't actually I sadly heard about it before watching the movie. But because I don't let others' opinion or so they label it as "opinion" affect my own. I was soooo living with the movie I forgot anything that was said about it. Maybe because I don't hate at all but the CGI the comedy the fighting the story The friendship totally got me with the movie 🤤🤩

[@nootnewt9323]

The directors were indie directors who made comedy-dramas and dramas. I don’t think they’ve ever made an action or sci fi movie so maybe that had some impact on it? Then again the director for WW only did lifetime movies before directing WW so I don’t think that’s it. The directors are talented though so I’m not sure what happened.

[@tefoca]

I don't agree with every opinion expressed in this video, but I totally respect and love the compassion behind them. I'm a social sciences student, and the first thing we learn in Anthropology is to strip yourself as much as you can from your personal perspectives to put yourself in the Other's shoes. It can't really be done 100%, but it should be tried. As you said about Brie, I get where you are coming from and I can tell your heart is in the right place. I love the positivity in this channel even and specially dealing with controversial topics.

[@vay5540]

Ah, they need to teach this crap in school...

[@KrishayAgarwal]

4:35 anyone else wondering what is his favourite? Am honestly very curious to know

[@darthironamerican]

Krishay Agarwal yep

[@bryanmanuelsalguero4729]

I think he said it's Sunshine

[@CryingCreeperMLG]

Sunshine

[@lewispedrick8091]

He really likes Scott pilgrim vs world

[@robertv8672]

Its Scott Pilgrim Vs The World

[@kitchensinkchronicles3272]

this, this is the best take on captain marvel i’ve seen

[@kath_rosie_3658]

I’ve always loved the mcu as a young girl I’m constantly being told to not show emotion I agree with many of the things in this video and I liked watching it but I wish you could have mentioned (because you would not have much if any experience with this I get way you didn’t) but in the theater I saw 6 year old girls in awe of a hero and that hero was a woman i was 15 when I saw that movie and I’m so happy that little girls get to see what I couldn’t a powerful girl showing emotion yet still seceding and beating her demons I generally cried after watching this because it showed me and others that we CAN show personality and emotion and still excel in life that we are just human and no I don’t think that we have reached outer highest point but we’re getting there Sorry had to rant

[@brogant6793]

Katherine Morris hey! that story line is also very applicable to guys. Most are told to ‘man up’ and not cry or show emotion as a weakness so I’m sure he could relate to it just perhaps not as much

[@d.b1310]

Couldn't have said it better. Great two parter. Also could you do Whiplash? J.K. Simmons is ALWAYS a win

[@nicolemartinez6440]

Alright, heres my story: Because of all of the negative videos I’d watched about how horrible Captain Marvel/Brie Larson was, I went into the theatre with a sort of sour feeling in my chest, and I left with a similarly uncomfortable even angered feeling. I felt a part of me brought out that didn’t feel like me. I left the theatre thinking the movie was ‘meh’ and kind of hating on it tbh. I wasn’t sure why though. In short, I wanted to thank you for making this video. It really helped me to let go of all that negativity built up inside of me against this movie. I can only blame myself honestly. I went onto watch those videos written against Brie Larson and felt bad that so many people were attacking her. I know what it’s like to struggle when it comes to communicating with people, so I tried to defend her. Now I’ve learned maybe it’s best to just leave people be and let them let go of their anger and hope that eventually they’ll come to their senses and rethink everything. Lots of love to you, Brie and everyone who has a hard time communicating with people. 😇💕😋

[@thatguycalledphil6808]

I like that you shared this experience. I have to be honest, I didn;t have the courage until just today to watch his vids on the movie because of backlash. All of those negative videoes were done due to ad revenue built on people wanting to see more venting. This video actually help me resonate with the movie.

[@Toshineko]

Yeeeah, when you have an actress that says that the movie is NOT for ''white men'', and the fact that Captain Marvel is a Mary Sue, I can kind see what those people are coming from. Especially Computing Forever. And ESPECIALLY the deleted scene! Oh god, the deleted scene...

[@definitelynottommywiseau3037]

what? the deleted scene where the biker acts like a douchebag and she gives him some comeuppance?

[@lordfeeda9627]

fuck captain marvel, thats all, disney bought tickets to boost the numbers, rotten tomatoes changed they website because of this movie, and now we have shills being bought to protect this movie and brie larson

[@macmcleod1188]

@@lordfeeda9627 I doubt the Disney is still paying " artificial grass roots advocates" at this point. However I could see from the Fandango ticket sales screens which showed side and front seats sold out before premium Center seats and from the recently released combined Blu-ray and DVD sales numbers combined with the recent scandal over Disney's Financial shenanigans that it's plausible Disney manipulated the box office the first 2 weeks buy a significant amount. And if their deal with the theaters was in line with their prior blockbuster movies it would have only cost them four million dollars out-of-pocket after taxes to produce 100 million dollars worth of fake box office. --- And related to the O.P.,, Brie Larson and Jesse Eisenberg are the only two actors in Hollywood who have ruined their personal brand with me. And I think I might watch Jesse Eisenberg and the Zombie Land movie but I just automatically skip any other film he's in now. Likewise, Miss Larson makes my skin crawl and I do not want to see her on screen. It took a lot of work on her part to do that. But she did it faster than Jesse Eisenberg by specifically targeting my customer demographic.

[@RaiderAnthony]

If you don't think Brie Larson is a good actress, watch Short Term 12 or Room.

[@braxbro7602]

I loved Tommy Wiseau in that one!

[@Rapidcanvas]

Lol

[@demigodgamer8517]

I don't know why, but her acting has just never resonated with me. I've seen Room, and her two MCU outings. Ehhhh... I don't think she's bad, I just don't think she's as great as others say.

[@tutumazibuko2510]

@@demigodgamer8517 then watch Scott Pilgrim, bitch

[@darekun46]

Is it weird that I think Captain Marvel is a great demo of Brie Larson's acting skills, for the very reasons people are complaining? Anyone can emote big and loud. Delivering a reaction shot while showing the character's stoic facade unbroken, that takes expertise. Subtlety is hard.

[@shadowsovereign4948]

Woah woah woah! Someone complained about the angel of Verdun?! That is the one comment I cannot forgive

[@sallie5321]

The Lion King?! Getting ready to cry through all the wins.

[@lilowhitney8614]

I kinda disagree with your conclusions about the "male audience can't handle a female superhero/lead". I mean it's waaay oversimplifying the issue, but it still holds some truth. You pointed out heroes like Gamora, Widow and Wasp, who are all loved by audiences and are the most badass in their movies... which is kinda the problem. They are all put on a pedestal, especially when compared to their fellow male leads. GotG is the most blatant about it where 4 out of 5 of the leads are lovable human disasters and then there's Gamora who's very composed, with a dark but "clean" past, and who at most get swept up in the shenanigans rather than start them. It's a pattern that holds true for a lot of female characters, especially in stuff where there's barely any other big female characters. It's only when the Russos got their hands on Widow that she started feeling human and as much of a relatable disaster as the other characters. It's a big problem of the "strong female character" mentality. Yes seeing them kick ass is nice but that's not what's important. They should be a strong, three dimensional character who is also female rather than a flat character whose defining trait is that she's a strong female. And we see a lot of that attitude towards Carol, who's a deeply flawed character which is why she's so much fun. Yet, the reactions towards her are much more vitriolic than the reactions towards Tony in Iron Man 1 and 2 or Dr. Strange (Who I personally find a lot more flawed than Carol). People are used to seeing women be strong, that's not really a problem anymore, but seeing them as flawed human beings? Ones who sometimes it's hard to root for? Yeah, that's a lot rarer. It mirrors a very real and annoying attitude that exists in real life as well. So sure. Female leads and superheros are fine, so long as they aren't *too* human.

[@thekidfromcanada]

The problem I have with the Strong Female character type is that Strong isn't a character trait, it's an ability. strong willed? Hard headed? Resilient? Enduring? Those are character traits. all great characters are flawed and work toward overcoming that flaw.

[@lilowhitney8614]

@@TornadoADV If I remember correctly Alien's script was written in a gender-blind way i.e. The characters were written first and then they could be cast as male or female. So while you're correct in saying that Alien is an exception to the issue I described, you're also wrong because none of the characters there were written as female characters, some of them just had female actors. It's a different subject entirely.

[@Me4Muzak]

While I see some of your points, I don't think you can simplify Gamora's backstory into 'dark but "clean"', since her story is more about how she was brainwashed into believing Thanos, until she slowly wised up and then betrayed him. And while she does go along with the others, she does have quite a few moments where she is the leading role in her story. Technically, the whole of GOTG 1 was her convincing the others that the Power stone couldn't go to Thanos/Ronin. Simplifying how multiple characters interrelate with others doesn't accurately convey character motivations. :/ I do agree with the idea of the 'strong female character' as being not only cliche, but also not very interesting. I love seeing depth to characters, especially with someone like Ripley, who shows great intelligence and perseverance, while also being nurturing and caring for others on her team. Unfortunately, because we as a society are still new to the idea of women being 'strong and independent' (even though it's been a reality for thousands of years), media sometimes tries to just give these female characters features that are 'masculine', and then don't understand why there is backlash. Because women can be strong like men, but they don't have to be strong in the same way as them. That's why I think Carol is seen negatively, because her character is like Tony, or Dr Strange... Why can't she just be her own character? Especially since people will read it as her being a female version of a more popular male character. That kind of derivative character creation doesn't necessarily make a good character. It just highlights the few differences between them, without giving any good reason. Either way... female representation is getting better, but it's still not there... And it's definitely a more complicated topic than some would like to admit.

[@lilowhitney8614]

@@Me4Muzak So just as a disclaimer it's been a while since I saw GotG last, so it's very much possible that I'm misremembering some things. Apologies if it looks like I'm oversimplfying things. Anyways, when I called Gamora's backstory dark but "clean" I meant it mostly in an audience perception kind of way and specifically how it affects the sympathy they have for her. We're told that she killed a lot of nameless people in Thanos service, but it's kinda hard to be emotionally invested in that in anyway when we're only shown her trying to do better and atone for that. Just to clarify things a bit, I consider flaws in characters to be things that make to audience lose sympathy (unless it's played for laughs) for the character. So stuff like Peter being an idiot, Drax being arrogant, Rocket and his self sabatoge and even Groot being an airhead all count. It's traits often cause problems to the characters. In Gamora's case most of her assholery is reactive to something someone else did (mostly Peter being an idiot) to which she reacts in an unproportionate and often masculine way (violence). Yet because she was provoked that reaction never feels unfair so it doesn't take away any sympathy. It's even evident in what you pointed out. You're right in that GotG can very much be argued to be Gamora's story. She's the only "proper" hero of the cast in that she's the only one that cares about doing what's right for it's own sake. She's mostly serious and tries to keep the others on task. And all of that puts her on a pedestal when compared to the other leads, who are all human disasters and who all had moments they caused problems to themselves in the movie. But Gamora never had a moment like that. She's not perfect but she's not really flawed either betond the tragic circumstances that made her. Carol is her own character and comparing her to other characters doesn't take away from that. My point was that here are 3 characters who are pretty arrogant. In 2 it's not really seen as an issue by the audience (even seeming endearing to some) and in 1 it seems annoying and ailenating. It shows a double standard in reactions that many people don't seem to acknowledge or be aware of. It's far from the first time something like it occured. There's a book series called the Dresden files. Initially the main character was planned to be female but when the author turned to manuscript to an editor he was told that the main character would turn people off because she's too much of a bitch. When the author turned the book again the only thing he changed was turning the main character male but it was enough so no one would complain about the main character behaviour again. People have one hell of a double standard in what's considered appropriate behaviour for women vs what's considered approriate for men.

[@user-eu8jd2be9j]

Me4Muzak isn’t movie carol written, at the very least, written like comic carol? which happens to just read like mcu tony/strange? why isn’t carol her own character when being cocky/confident in the mcu, but tony and strange are?

[@oblivionwriter]

Looking forward to The Lion King for the next video. I'm not crazy right? That's what the screenshot is from? I'm fully expecting a "this movie exists" win ding for it if I'm right.

[@VeniaStark]

My first thought was it was Fern Gully, but then I realized it's likely the scene where Timon offers Simba the grubs to choose from, so yeah, I think it's the Lion King. I'm excited for it if it is!

[@oblivionwriter]

@@VeniaStark yeah. That's what I thought it was. Here's to hoping we're right!

[@oblivionwriter]

@@VeniaStark yeah. That's what I thought it was. Here's to hoping we're right!

[@leonaraujo9940]

Which lion king?

[@tibs8721]

oblivionwriter a video long over-due

[@moonlightwarriorgaming743]

I swear if EGA Endgame is a three parter, I would be so happy.

[@curesmith4925]

When I talked with my friends about the movie one of my guy friends said that he didnt like it because Captain Marvel was so cocky. They were taken aback when I told them I liked it because she was cocky. Women are often represented as characters that have to prove themself against men. They are compared a lot and often dont even have powers that stand out so much to make an impression. Captain Marvel is strong and she knows it. She uses her powers. She isnt controlled by anyone anymore (doesnt matter if men or women). Her power is not so dangerous and out of control that she cant use it and there is no condition to it. She is just strong and I love that. Of course the movie isnt flawless and the cast as people isnt flawless but I dont care. I enjoyed it and I actually liked her in Endgame as well. Female empowerment is great and all but in the end its about taste and opions. Let the people who like it be and let the people who dont like it move on to another movie. Love the channel and hope that you will make videos like this one more often! :)

[@nickmalachai2227]

Honestly, I have identified with Carol a lot just with how her expressions work. I have a mix of issues with giving expressions and have been "trained" in a fashion to suppress those expressions, so that aspect of Carol's story, the fact that she's told to not express herself and, in a meta sense is disliked in part because of that really relates to me. That and, let's be honest, a bit of a power fantasy (how she flies specifically) has made her one of my favorites.

[@brigidflanagan9585]

I 100% enjoyed this movie, but captain marvel’s character definitely has a lotta potential to be expanded and developed in the sequel. There IS going to be a sequel about her, which leads you to assume that there will be a villain that can match her. Ragnarok did wonders for Thor’s character (mostly due to our god Taika), and Hela being able to destroy his hammer was important for his character development throughout the entire thing. Both characters begin super cocky and kinda OP, but also kinda bland to some viewers (a lot more in the case of Thor I feel). A sequel where Thor was humbled and learned more about his power made him super likeable. Carol has potential for that to happen to her, too. Anyway Imma make sure to read captain marvel comics in search of good villains

[@evlstoryteller3567]

I wish Taika would direct more MCU individual movies! That would be AMAZING.

[@Craigels]

I do like what you did at 8:00 with the 'fury' in infuriating :D (Sorry, all this chat and sometimes the simple things are just nice to enjoy)

[@tedsava1800]

This is the best captain marvel review I’ve seen yet :)

[@marxxofomniscience3713]

Ted Sava That’s because it’s only the positives of the movie. It still has a lot of mistakes

[@tedsava1800]

Marxx of omniscience he literally does a comprehensive analysis of both sides of the argument. Did you watch the whole video?

[@NeoBlue1000]

I appreciate the insight and the value you bring to the table. I learn a lot when watching your videos and think my film watching skill/experience is enriched because if this. Keep up the good work and thank you. This video in particular should be a must see for any critic.

[@ShogunTurnip]

Just so you know, that Solid Snake edit is probably the funniest thing I've seen in a long while. Bravo.

[@TydayusTalon]

I went into the movie not knowing anything about that "controversy" and had a pretty good time with it. I think that it's a pretty solid Marvel movie, Ben Mendelsohn stole the show for my friend and I. Especially with his "Alright, that's fair" line.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

How is Ben Australian, he’s not upside down

[@WuSezer]

He actually is, in every scene he's in they hold the camera upside down

[@coriusfarinprimarchofthese7007]

So how did they get the non-australian actors to be right side up when on screen with him?

[@phaitch5264]

He's secretly called Dinnerbone

[@pranavkalra]

Love this channel and appreciate its mission. I just got an off feeling from 10:48 with the "don't give racists ammunition against you" line. I get the practical value of that idea but why should preventing bad faith attacks be the responsibility of the victim. It's still on the racists creating that message and on the people who listen to them right? As someone who's had to deal with this it, that line just instantly gave me that gut churning feeling so wanted to point it out

[@kelsanggyudzhin2340]

Videos like this keep making me scroll down just to see that I've already clicked like, and it makes me sad that I can't like it again. Then I see that I'm already subscribed and I'm like "Aw, c'mon man!"

[@clovisno756]

Hey minor thing here... how come EGA Antman and The Wasp isn’t in the MCU playlist?

[@MsKeylas]

It will be sometime later I am sure.

[@angiee1603]

I appreciate how your videos encompass a pure love of film generally and a desire to make peace. What sets this channel appart is you try to push people to be better people. Being positive helps, but this talk about empathy is something a lot of people need to hear. I was really upset by all the hate Bree got just for talking about how representation matters, but I wasn't surprised by it which is sad. The controversy with this movie has faded, but empathy is still desperately needed in other situations.

[@ColdBloodedProd]

Thanks a bunch for taking the time to do this video. I can tell getting this out meant something to you and I got quite a bit from it. Go empathy!

[@Livingroomset799Dep]

I want you to know that this channel is loved so much - keep up the great work!

[@directorforplastic7929]

Dude. You’re finally doing the freaking LION KING! About time. Also, great video once again. I’m actually not sure why you thought that your audience would find this specific video bad or boring. One of the things that makes you unique (and superior to CinemaSins) is your thoughtful conclusions. The conclusions (IMO) are what makes your videos great. Granted, the normal wins sections are also good, but the conclusions provide a lot of your feelings and make me appreciate the movie more. I definitely wouldn’t mind more of this.

[@-4subscriberswithahammerad521]

time to get the popcorn and holy water ready boys we are going in with part 2

[@FabledNarrative]

Cinema Sins (Pessimist): "Literally the worst movie." Cinema Wins (Optimist): "Not that bad, even pretty good movie." Average Viewer: "I didn't like it, but I like how Cinema Wins tried to find the good in the movie."

[@scottm9502]

Cinema sins aren't critics ffs they've so themselves they are just making fun of movies and making some jokes. It's also why they don't have essays at the end

[@Safearcane8817]

There are others that have done film critiques on why captain marvel sucks. Cinema sins is a mix of actual critiques and jokes so all that they say about movies isnt all that ridiculous.

[@dragon9261]

why isn't this pinned xD

[@Safearcane8817]

@@dragon9261 cause I'm lazy. XD

[@Ziaonfilmandtv]

I’d say that’s inaccurate about cinema sins. In videos, you actually hear them complimenting movies and taking away sins. They’ll only truly ragged on a handful. Many of them have absurd sins because that’s apart of their schtick.

[@oks5689]

Your video is really interesting, but i think you're missing the point of how Alita and Wonder Woman conforted "white dudes" in their vision of women, because they were presented with mostly feminine traits and attitudes, whereas carol was presented, unconciously maybe, with more of a male attitude. And this, this doesn't reassure "white dudes" who, and i speak for experience, feel easily threatened by women who dare too present the same traits as them like carol did, cocky and confident.

[@BeastyBlerd]

Lion King - WOO! Also, thank you for making this video. I would like more videos like this, because I love your ending ''rant/conclusion'' sectkon at the end of these vids. Gives me a deeper understanding of it all. I love your work, and you tackle everything perfectly!

[@positiivi_teme]

And lot's of the hate towards CapMarv and Brie started from the first trailer. "she doesn't smile enough" And that's just pure sexism and there really is no point to try to understand that ideology.

[@themoleman6806]

Or it’s just saying she looks bored. Like everyone explained about it.

[@constanzagonzalez5618]

I always thought that marvel it was trying to sell "this isn't like another female superhero movie" like she no need to be funny or innocent to be relatable.

[@blindeagleace3629]

@@themoleman6806 Well then why not say that? Instead of saying "she needs to smile"? And your comment doesn't make sense since no males in their MCU trailers didnt smile. At all. Did they look bored too? Captain America, Doctor Strange, Iron Man, and so on have never smiled in any of there trailers. Many people also like to draw a comparison to what happened with Superman. But that was after a full two movies and then everyone was saying Superman was too serious and should smile more. So, here we have everyone tell Captain Marvel to smile after just one trailer when no Male superhero have had that standard.

[@Xardion55]

That never did make any sense to me. Was she supposed to smile? How was it even relevant? First off, it's just a trailer. You don't have to see all of her emotional faces because it's not really important. And second the first few lines of the trailer pretty much spells it out. 1, she's a soldier and 2, she had memory problems. In a situation like that, on a planet that she is unfamiliar with, smiling or any emotion is the last thing you think about. Oh, crap. I started ranting again, didn't I...?

[@billielurks8625]

@the baron well tom holland recently said something similar about white straight men. where is his boycott? where are over 10000 videos on youtube attacking him, his acting, his mannerisms, his personality? nice try but reality says otherwise.

[@rowanunderwood]

I went in with no off-screen drama stuff, and loved the film in your stead. :)

[@saint2972]

I only learnt about off screen stuff 3 months ago

[@saint2972]

That's why I love the movie like crazy. Even have it on my phone and watch it a lot. It's my favourite

[@nightowl9818]

I enjoyed Captain Marvel it's a good pretty good movie imo not my favourite but I would watch it again

[@kschwein4980]

I wanted to come back to this bc even years later I still think about this video and people’s reaction to it. I’ll try to be brief. I am a woman who has a very dry, sarcastic sense of humor who was constantly knocked down, told to shut up and that I’m too emotional (and should stifle it). And even with that, I persisted to speak my mind, continue to pursue my goals and do what I needed to do. I was able to connect with CM, understand what she’s feeling and acknowledge the (admittedly subtle) emotions she showed throughout the movie. She was the first badass superhero that was like me who wasn’t crazy sexualized, moving on emotion, or needed to be saved. A woman doesn’t have to be charming, average powered, or perfectly depict your desired woman to deserve a seat at the table, and it’s hard not to react with emotion when I see comments like the ones on this video. I love this movie because as a marvel fan she was the first who didn’t need saving, didn’t exist to be hot, and was portrayed in a way I could relate to. Finally, I see her being overpowered as an opportunity to bring in cooler, stronger villains and obstacles. With what’s come out more recently, imagine her vs. kang?! Could be super cool. I’m not a comic fan but I’m sure there’s a villain there who could match her, and if not, they can make one. Im rambling at this point but the summary is, I don’t believe you were actually able to take yourself out of a white mans shoes, I’m a size 8 if you’d like to try mine

[@taylordenham2030]

I feel like everybody who says Brie is a garbage actress should watch “Short Term 12” or “room” before saying that.

[@MsKeylas]

Agreed. But would like to add that firstly such people need to pull their heads outside of their asses.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Well I don't care about her other movies. She was garbage in this one, at least in my mind she did nothing. Her strongest portrayed emotions were those of condescending superiority establishment. Whenever she had the chance to show she was better than someone else, you could just see in her expressions that she put more of herself into those emotional acts - which makes it very clear what types of emotions are personally prioritized by her.

[@tutumazibuko2510]

safe space lol. imagine being so offended that you have to respond to every comment just to prove you’re not offended

[@taylordenham2030]

This comment was not in defense of her preference in this movie or her strange behavior in the interviews because those are really frustrating, I’m just saying this movie is even more frustrating every time I watch “Short term 12” (one of my all time favorite films) and wish her performance was closer to one that one or another one of her award winning ones. In the end I love that this movie exists, I just wish I could enjoy it more.

[@BTmethius]

I love this video. The way you express your ideas so effectively while comforting the viewers and making us feel connected is something I really appreciate about this channel! We need more people like you, or better yet, we need more people to tap into their empathy! You, you get a win from us: *ding*

[@ashwinikulkarni7122]

I honestly loved Brei Larson as captain marvel.

[@DarkHunter047]

I feel like that at 8:49 you misrepresent what she was trying to say. Surely race does not define you as person but it is a part of how you put yourself in the world. Wouldn't be a surprise that skin-color is a factor that affect our opinions of movies, though, i would guess, a small one. This would happen not because of genetics but because race as a form of classification creates seperate gruops of peoples that we are put in or out off, somtimes at will (like a gruop of fans of some TV series or Movie Franchise) sometimes by force (like your family, your nation, your ethnicity, your gender, etc), and being a part of or not of such groups can have an effect on how you define yourself in a colletictive. It is not that all white men have the same perspective is that in some issues and some things white men might not have the same insights that people who aren't white or men or both. Also, there's the whole history of segegation and jim crow laws and homophobia and sexism in the U.S that might give you clues that culturally some gruops of people don't have much interest in some jobs and areas of expertise, i have to imagine since i do not live there and i'am not from there but i know i little bit of the history of those things. In conclusion, i think that her was thinking in something alongside these lines when she made that speech and simply assumed that everyone would understand.

[@robertscott7812]

I don't think what your describing is necessarily race, but more of culture, which certainly has divides between different races.

[@angiee1603]

I agree. Race and culture does have an impact on how you view the world. Black people who grew up in American during the civil rights movement probably have a different view of cops with dogs than white people who grew up in the 90s. Your experience shapes your world view which can shape how you see movies. Bree calling for more representation reflects that she understands that.

[@reniguima]

yes! when you go "people are people" to erase different people´s experiences you loose a lot of nuances. Bree as 100% right we need more than cis-white-straight-boomers reviewing and creating art

[@beastlysoldierful]

@@reniguima That's not what the "people are people" line was about. The whole point of it was to show that we as a species are more than 1 thing

[@alexandertarafdar2283]

I love your content and your channel has been a major stepping stone in me evolving my outlook on movies and life in general (just ask my therapist). But this is maybe the first time I disagree with you. I was in a lot of Marvel movie and comic groups on facebook before CM, these groups became toxic when all these arguments and "debates" went down. I don't think it was a vocal minority like it usually is but a genuine large amount of people were (and i know you dont like this phrase) butthurt. They didn't like being the focus of a statement like that (i do agree with the statement, just not how it was said) and in turn lashed out at any body who disagreed. I ended up leaving those groups because the same people who hated being judged on their race started hurling racial abuse at me (im a POC) and this affected me big time. It wasn't just one or two people but literally entire groups of people attacked me because they disagreed with Brie and subsequently myself. My experience was reflected everywhere I looked, in many (ex) close friends and the KZbin comments also. These people who attacked myself and others were butthurt, especially because they didn't understand what Brie was trying saying and saw it as a personal attack. It was very reactionary. I thought I'd try and give the perspective of a guy on the "other side" as it were, from someone who was in the thick of it, because it isn't so much about the sides of the conversation but where they meet and how they interact. I make it my job to never insult people on the internet personally anymore and honestly it felt so shitty how in different areas of the internet I was treated with the same hate and racism for trying to express my opinion, which only strengthened my opinion. Anyway, I love your channel. You're fighting the good fight and I'm glad you have made a space where I can say my opinion and know I wont be attacked.

[@coriusfarinprimarchofthese7007]

While I wholeheartedly agree that this should be a safe space, don't be surprised if some other people show up to belittled you, even here. The comment, by the way, was very well said.

[@alexandertarafdar2283]

@@coriusfarinprimarchofthese7007 thank you. I realise thats a possibility but i have faith that if that happens here it wont be tolerated like it is most other places on the internet

[@sageoffire3964]

CinemaWins: "Every movie, even the worst you can think of right now, is someone's favorite. Me: "Cool. So when are you doing Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen? Or Dark of the Moon?"

[@jaredcook3376]

Dark of the Moon was amazing imo, maybe liked it more than the first personally.

[@sageoffire3964]

@@jaredcook3376 Here's my ranking (animated movies included) 1. Transformers 2. Bumblebee 3. Dark of the Moon 4. Predacons Rising 5. Revenge of the Fallen 6. The Transformers the Movie 7. Age of Extinction 8. The Last Knight

[@theoxyscape7057]

Yay,people who like the Transformers movies.

[@TheMajorVegi]

When I walked out of the movie I thought "Oh wow! I wish there were heroins in my youth that were like her. The right kind of cocky, clever and powerful. Especially unafraid. She is a woman and she did not annoy me, wow!" I might have lived my life in a different way if I didn't have planted weakness and the need of male authority into my head by the society/family I grew up in. I might not have chosen not wanting to be a woman anymore. To hate myself for being born a woman. Seeing her character made me really like her. And I usually really hate strong female characters, because I was told women need to be delicate, calm and obedient. I hope I can get this out of my head through therapy someday. From my perspective this movie could have really helped me as a child or even as a teen. There will always be someone who benefits from such movies. So thank you for taking the middle ground here.

[@newb431]

Did you never see any of the strong female movies he listed? Did you hate them or something?

[@OoXLR8oO]

Go watch Terminator 2 or Aliens, they do everything better than this garbage.

[@explodingmangos3416]

You will find that women often have to say “I don’t hate men” when talking about things raising up women, just to make sure that the men don’t feel excluded. Next point😊

[@Bo-lq3ur]

Another 20 mins of my life.... well spent.

[@JHooves714]

I have never found someone so like me, always in the middle, trying to see each side. Constantly trying to help others expand their horizons or at least try and see things differently from beyond their own point of view. It feels good to finally see there are others like me out there, because it honestly feels lonely sometimes. Thanks for all you do and keep up the good work!

[@colormeblue211]

as an asian growing up in asia i have been told a lot of times i couldn't do nor achieve certain things because i'm female. the reason carol is inspiring is because even though she kept being beaten down in her past, she comes back stronger than ever, and that is what i inspire to be.

[@johngarland4431]

Thank you for being such a shining light in the crazy and sometimes uber-toxic community of the internet.

[@johngarland4431]

safe space What does that mean?

[@tombo1984]

I loved Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman are in my top 20 movies of all time. Unleash the hate...

[@oof-rr5nf]

god captain marvel and wonder woman were such a rush i don't even need women to just lead punching movies. just let them lead allll types of movies. i need to see 50% more female protagonists in cinema. please......... my crops are dying, my skin got acne, my grades are worse than ever and someone stole all my money........ pleeeeeeease

[@pudlordtynan919]

Wonder Woman was rad. Captain Marvel was rad. That's what I think at least. I like movies where people kick ass and do good. I'm a simple person.

[@konnerdent4835]

Thomas Evans Not here, man. This is CinemaWins; we’re positive here. You’re gonna have to go to CinemaSins for hate comments.

[@immortalcbox8769]

I think Wonder Woman is in an entirely different league movie wise compared to captain marvel.

[@bluebandit3503]

Dud no hate here, 100% agree with you

[@ThatOneGuy-xn5nw]

Everything great about Wall-E PLEASE

[@MrFernoid]

100% agree on the empathy message. I am a generic white dude, I teared up when Lashana gave Brie the speech about who she is. It is a marvellous movie... sorry not sorry.

[@mhawang8204]

+1 Best scene in the movie, IMHO. Carol was not only hunting the Skrulls; she was also searching for answers about her true self. And her best friend was there to support her when all what she'd belived in crumbles. Beautiful stuff.