"Cloud Strife is a Generic Anime Edgelord"

[@TheGameShelf]

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[@Pensive_Scarlet]

Do a sequel video: Jessie Is An Abusive Stalker No quote marks. I still wince every time Wedge seems so genuinely terrified of another beating. Also, she starts the game loudly discussing a stranger's ass. Oh, and tell me, who gets their shoe slightly pinched by some debris and pretends to be helpless like that, sheesh, no shame!

[@idleeidolon]

a lot o japanese characters are generic tropes to begin wtih. it's how they generate interest and immediate understanding the moment they appear on screen. especially since the average anime has a run-time of only 15-20 minutes. good anime, will then develop said character as episodes progress and the character becomes more than the trope that they were when you first met them. bad anime forget to do that. it's not only anime that does this. this happens across most japanese fiction. in light novels/manga especially. mostly because the market is saturated and the number one priority for publishers is immediate ability to generate investment or grab attention. it's also the reason why most light novel titles are the length of the blurb at the back of the book.

[@TheOne-dn9mr]

I don't think people actually get the joke of your title lel.

[@rainbowlightninggiaour5166]

What can I say except your welcome

[@1eye1tear95]

Your favorite video game character is an edgelord just like you

[@HailTheRegent]

Cloud is a dork trying to be cool, but his only frame of reference for "cool" is Zack, who is also a dork

[@itzkhaleb7721]

The ignorance in this comment jesus christ

[@explodingburst7265]

@@itzkhaleb7721 care to explain?

[@explodingburst7265]

@@itzkhaleb7721 care to explain?

[@leekaedan4956]

@@itzkhaleb7721 care to explain?

[@fathernigga]

@@itzkhaleb7721 care to explain?

[@SuperLlama42]

"Really sorry about your ass." - Cloud Strife

[@Gregory-the-small]

Man's got his back blasted by cloud

[@ayyylmao101]

@@Gregory-the-small AW MAN WHY'D I HAVE TO READ THIS COMMENT, I'M DYING

[@Kosmid]

@@Gregory-the-small nOOOOOO!!!

[@hayoonpark7454]

@@Gregory-the-small LMAOO

[@radioactiveseaotter]

When someone hurts your donkey

[@croissant-kun4025]

I bust out laughing when Cloud tried to pull that big ass sword of his and it got stuck on the doorframe.

[@annoying_HK_guy]

I actually panic that he may die early

[@kazuna07]

Holy shit, is that realism?!

[@codexenon1996]

@@kazuna07 I was just gonna say that! XD

[@firepuppies4086]

Sephiroth: I shall give you *Sword clinks when he tries to pull out his sword, in beat to his song*

[@ms.pirate]

Was that logic?!

[@liamwilson7549]

When cloud said “This sucks” chasing the cat, he spoke for all of us who spent our sorry time doing that quest.

[@franklinbadge1215]

I didn't intend to do that quest, I just ended up finding the cats in the process of doing the other quests

[@SleepyTy]

And had to do it more than once to get all of Tifa's dresses.

[@amirhosseintajani9634]

that is actually true

[@BigBoris]

Probably just to get the Tifa interaction

[@docplays6508]

Agreed. But it was worth getting a secret with Tifa

[@nerdychocobo]

My favourite thing about the remake is how much clouds eyes flicker about, it really helps communicate that he's more anxious than he lets on

[@backupschmliff1156]

Ehh... I think he just doesn't feel comfortable getting closer with people. He's always looking people in the eyes in every other occasion

[@delete---7593]

@@backupschmliff1156 ?

[@delete---7593]

?

[@WardofSquid]

"He's just like me FR"

[@amuroray9115]

The power of better technology 22 years later. I enjoyed this game

[@rene3682]

"Get help"

[@LittleBigPlanetian]

**le gasp**

[@ms.pirate]

@@gavin2613 "Get, help"

[@marcinzysko1653]

...pls. my brother's dying.

[@SaraphDarklaw]

That line made me realized they nailed Cloud’s character.

[@Focus-Perception]

@@gavin2613 I DARE YA, I DOUBLE DARE YA

[@LexioLTG]

2:28 "Deep down, he's a big softie." *Is inmediately shown dancing with an excentric and sexually ambiguous owner of a strip club.*

[@toxin2366]

"fnd something you enjoy and stick with it, put your heart and soul into getting better at it." *cloud dancing like a smooth boi*

[@selenopheria]

For the next time you describe Andrea Rhodea, there's no x in eccentric.

[@CrowTR0bot]

Just gave this comment its 1500th like.

[@catrionabean]

... I don’t think there was any ambiguity there...

[@hayoonpark7454]

LMAOO

[@empty_melodies]

“Just when you started thinking Cloud was cool, he’d do something dorky. When you started to think he was smart, he’d say something dumb” -Cid Highwind

[@ziongamer6905]

I fuckin LOVE Cid! I really can’t wait for the scene where he becomes leader

[@althelor]

I mean, this is the same guy who's speech before the final battle was "alright guys, let's mosey."

[@thatguyknownaswill8180]

For me, It ain’t FFVII without Cid. Also on a side note, that line always got to me. The only other time in the remake anything made me feel the way I did from that line was when Avalanche told cloud to leave while they all partied at 7th Heaven.

[@ziongamer6905]

@@thatguyknownaswill8180 I felt the pain of being kicked outta the crew when I heard how happy they were- I tried so hard to stay ;n;

[@whatthe9256]

@@thatguyknownaswill8180 Its not final fantasy without cid. I mean he is in every final fantasy since ff2

[@BeanieTheWeeb13]

i literally CANNOT get over the scene of cloud hitting his sword on the doorframe. They did indeed nail his character in making him seem like he's trying to hard to be edgy

[@NikitaClayton-qn7ge]

It's kinda working 😂

[@cowboybarbaryn1302]

Cloud is a wet cat

[@NarutoUzumaski]

Jessie on her dying last breath Cloud: *Pizza time*

[@davidvasquez08]

*TMNT theme intensifies*

[@spongebobfan190]

Jessie: You're late. I'm not paying for those.

[@misterturkturkle]

thirst girl is worst girl

[@zanga5408]

​@@misterturkturkle Blasphemy

[@diegomedina9637]

I mean... Cloud was hanging out in the sewers for a while.

[@ApexGale]

Cloud is the epitome of that one kid in class who is awkward and doesn't know how to make friends so he tries to sound cool. Nobody hates him or anything and they find it endearing how hard he tries

[@TheGameShelf]

I love your Owain Cena pfp lmao

[@ChewedFriedShrimp]

Odin/Owain as John Cena..

[@ApexGale]

@@TheGameShelf this has been my avatar for like 5 years now i don't even remember when it happened or where i got it from

[@Ingisen]

He gets away with it because he has good looks. If he didn't? Game over

[@ApexGale]

@@Ingisen he isn't a real person, and good looks are subjective like 99% of guys can look good naturally if they put in the right effort

[@yetravellingsonc8372]

Jessie: *literally dying* Cloud: Y o u o w e m e a p i z z a

[@XenoJaed]

I mean, he was getting to know the Avalanche trio and essentially grew a bond with them.

[@sasaki999pro]

In his defense not everyone comes equipped with master class skills in comforting the terminally ill, younger people would probably assume that playing it light would ease the anxiety and bring them peace, trying to assure them that they'll pull through if they just keep their spirits up.

[@wadribrab751]

That had the same energy as "who else will I have ice cream with"

[@Wupar]

To be fair, the pizza thing was established like 20 hours ago in the narrative. The other Avalanche members got to have Jessie's mom's homemade pizza but Cloud missed out, so Jessie promised him pizza after that, but he was his usual dismissive self. Cloud saying "you owe me a pizza" at her death scene serves as both "I was giving you the cold shoulder before but not anymore," and "I won't let you die because we have unfinished business together." Sounds awkward without context, but it's actually very sweet coming from him.

[@wadribrab751]

@@Wupar I know that. Even the ice cream line had context as Roxas didn't know what else to do for friendship since he was a nobody. Doesn't make it less cheesy tho

[@jusbetter7634]

"You failed the test." "What test?" "Driving..." Cloud: And I took that personally.

[@renohasbigtits]

BEST COMMENT EVER

[@oliveoil3075]

i'M gOod At dRiviNg

[@32savamahawira48]

Dammit, you almost made me laugh

[@jusbetter7634]

@@32savamahawira48 you almost made me care😘

[@CrasherX2000]

@@oliveoil3075 hah! Great at scaring your passengers more like...

[@pyrocinematics6649]

He is both so perfectly stereotypical and breaks all the stereotypes at the same time

[@tylerandrews3815]

His archetype blends in so well with the his surroundings, the people and his environment - its strangely refreshing in a way.

[@stephen8342]

Just like most average guys

[@Akira_767]

Hidden character arc: Cloud learning how to high-five

[@Vinthechad]

"You really hear that?" "Damn straight i do!" "Get help." Best line in the beginning of FF7 Remake

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Loved that line, but also love that they undercut his sass when he flubs and doesn't understand when Barret asks how old he is. It humanized him, showing he isn't the edgelord he's constantly called.

[@toxin2366]

"sorry about your ass" is clearly the best though

[@mattstaab6399]

It got me thinking tho... is beret cetra

[@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028]

That was the line that made me say out loud “damn, cloud’s a savage in this game” I know it was like this at the start of the original but I feel like they ramped it up

[@amuroray9115]

He always sneaks those comments in 😂

[@holycowrap]

Cloud randomly bringing up that he was 1st class makes a little more sense now that I've played through the original

[@choy8904]

explain?

[@ono_o_o]

@@choy8904 ready to be spoiled big time? If you don't want spoilers, don't continue. Essentially in the original game, Cloud suffers a sort of dissociative disorder. It was caused by having Jenova's cells (which can genetically adapt to things), mako poisoning/addiction/overload that put him into a delusional/coma-like state, and witnessing his best friend Zack's death. And Zack died trying to protect him after caring for him during his coma (therefore big survivor's guilt and mental burden). Also he's missing 4 years (mostly his teenage years) which probably hindered a lot of his emotional growth and sense of identity. So Cloud always feels this need to reassure himself of this fake ''dissociated'' identity of being a 1st class ex-soldier

[@Psycho_Tek]

@@ono_o_o Which is the identity he assimilated himself into after feeling so ashamed of not making it into solider. I guess he just convinced himself of it so he would believe the lie as well.

[@ziongamer6905]

@@Psycho_Tek I’d even go as far as to assume that since Zack told Cloud to be his legacy, Clouds mind did the first class thing to not dishonor Zack’s sword.

[@xrosesc]

Have u played or watched FF7 crisis core gameplay? Cuz it would make more sense

[@chancemitchell4147]

“Seriously Cloud, she’ll beat the shit out of us.”

[@TheGameShelf]

"Not my problem"

[@sleepy_Kasai]

Who voice acts wedge, I recognize that voice.

[@kamen_mann]

@@sleepy_Kasai Badger, Breaking Bad

[@deltaxeno7807]

@@sleepy_Kasai Gunter, Kick Buttowski.

[@spazzmaticus9086]

@@kamen_mann funny, badger voices him and he makes a breaking bad reference in the game.

[@TheSouthernStocking]

Aerith: "You fell through the roof, but luckily my flowers broke your fall" Cloud: *Coughs up blood* "No they didn't."

[@FernandoAlvarez-mp6wp]

JAJAJAJA

[@lavellelee5734]

😂😂

[@Arkenstone435]

Funnily enough, when cloud falls and everything goes white you can see whispers around, and when Sephiroth killed Barrett, whispers brought him back to life. Cloud very may well have died in that fall and the whispers revived him lol.

[@Bizarre_Soda]

@@Arkenstone435That would make sense although Cloud survives the fall even in the original version

[@Arkenstone435]

@@Bizarre_Soda This isn’t the original version though. He absolutely could’ve fallen differently this time and landed on his head kek

[@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466]

Can you imagine Cloud and Sephie being in a tight, low ceiling corridor? They'll just drop their comically fun sized swords and punch each other to death.

[@lmahu6627]

That's if Sephiroth doesn't hit his head on said ceiling.

[@FernandoAlvarez-mp6wp]

@@lmahu6627 JAJAJA como amo estos comentarios.

[@basedkaiser5352]

Sephiroth is too tall, he won’t fit.

[@wchan39]

Or they'll just end up chopping that building down into little pieces.

[@JamotHica]

I read "Selphie" for a sec and I've never been more confused haha

[@MovieEggman]

I love it that Cloud and Noctis are dorks who are trying their best to look cool and edgy in front of people.

[@chaoticzer0688]

They’re also both younger guys with the weight of the world, ones got emotional and psychological issues. The other is a prince forced to act like a king. It’s their friends that bring the best out in them honestly.

[@lmahu6627]

@@chaoticzer0688 Also they've interacted with cats in their games. With different results.

[@janyozenith9037]

"I don't even know what a reunion is."

[@zigslotheon]

@@chaoticzer0688 difference is the FF7 crew are brought together by corcumstance and the FF15 crew are total bros out on the road trip of a lifetime

[@chaoticzer0688]

@@zigslotheon facts, FF7 crew is honestly just a bunch of misfits getting together and becoming friends through like you said circumstances. FF15 crew starts off on as a royal bachelor party which turns into a bro road trip of a lifetime. Either way it’s some great shit.

[@DaenerysUchiha]

Cloud all tough talk until a girl shows then he turns into a stuttering mess it's actually really cute🥰😅

[@johnnysalery7383]

Not to mention the MAIN reason he wanted to become a Soldier in the first place was to impress Tifa. He's just like every other dude on the planet lol

[@DaenerysUchiha]

@@johnnysalery7383 true but he's super cute too😁🥰

[@dreamerthief2216]

Or Sephirot.

[@cameronb8988]

"You owe me a pizza" -Cloud

[@DaenerysUchiha]

@@cameronb8988 yaeh I remember him saying that 😆

[@Arexion5293]

Cloud's an edgelord in the sense that he is someone trying to emulate what he thinks is cool and keeps failing at it due to not being natural at it at all. He's only cool when he drops the act and just focuses on what he is doing instead of how he looks while doing it. That's what makes him fun. He's a wonderfully confused person who has a big heart beneath all that bravado. Kinda like Barret, but in a different way.

[@Psycho_Tek]

Best character devolpment of all time in a main protagonist! Almost made me think he was a clone made from jenova back then. :((

[@jordongutierrez1219]

@@Psycho_Tek **SPOILERS** well in a roundabout way he kinda is through having Zack’s memories

[@IzzySarru]

@@Psycho_Tek If I recall, the whole "you're a failed clone of Sephiroth" stuff was actually some bad localization shenanigans.

[@CamOfSpam]

He doesn’t have Zacks memories. He doesn’t recognize Aerith. He doesn’t think he’s from gongaga and he doesn’t act anything like him personality wise.

[@IzzySarru]

@@CamOfSpam Yeah, I don't know where people are getting that. They have some experience overlap because they were both in Nibelheim. I think Cloud mimics some of Zack's mannerisms, but other than that he's just kinda playing out what he thinks an aloof SOLDIER would be like. Considering Zack is basically just a shounen-hero stereotype of a character (And we love him for it) compared to Cloud's tsundere and false bravado ass.

[@RoyalGuard503]

"Nailed it, I know, thank you. Moving on." Will forever be one of the funniest gaming moments. Just be a queen, Cloud, it's a ton of fun.

[@chalkr0se13_]

I wish that someday I could exude that much confidence while in that kind of outfit

[@kylawilder4903]

Its my favorite part i loved it

[@madmouse1016]

Bruh went from being extremely uncomfortable to owning it 😂

[@khfan4life365]

He was looking at the camera as he said that too. Like he was saying it to the player, saying “here’s your cross-dressing scene. You happy now?”

[@breguera77]

@@madmouse1016not sure that was owning it as much as it was “let’s move on from this conversation”😊

[@star_man2740]

0:31 Clouds sigh when realizes he just acted like an idiot is so relatable it hurts

[@justahuman9273]

I also realized that it could be an indication, that he is confused about his age? Because he didn't actually answer the question, even after understanding what Barrett meant.

[@star_man2740]

@justahuman9273 With how much subtle foreshadowing is in the Rebirth demo, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a ton of hints I missed when I first played because I wasn't paying attention

[@johnnysalery7383]

Jesse: *_Sharing her final thoughts as she slowly succumbs to death due to her fatal injuries_* Cloud: (Jokingly) You owe me a Pizza!

[@crystals-r2551]

Who else will i have ice cream, i mean uhh pizza with!

[@sharifbrown3567]

@@crystals-r2551 Too soon 😭

[@tsukurikata774]

@@crystals-r2551 How dare you...

[@crystals-r2551]

@@sharifbrown3567 @Tsukurikata Sorry 😞

[@sharifbrown3567]

@@crystals-r2551 lol

[@alexrecrem9094]

Cloud: I am dark and edgy and broodi- Tifa: just yesterday you cried about snakes. Cloud: THEY DONT HAVE ARMS HOW CAN YOU HOLD BIG SWORDS WITHOUT ARMS!

[@ProjectEchoshadow]

Poor snek

[@ipiinsih3655]

Bruh this is from SU

[@jerryborjon]

@@ipiinsih3655 - Smash Ultimate?

[@Kevin-qd4bk]

I think he's talking about Steven Universe

[@ProjectEchoshadow]

@@Kevin-qd4bk I’m Pretty sure that was a joke you just missed

[@synovelle]

I know I shouldn’t have laughed, but I CACKLED when Cloud’s sword got caught on the doorframe when he hallucinated that guy was Sephiroth.

[@Kimairan]

It caught me off-guard the first time I saw it and I laughed harder than I'd like to admit. Definitely an underrated moment.

[@FF18Cloud]

Man, he does this again, too, lol, after the chainsaw snake robot thing, lol, that had me really laughing

[@marcsorrentino2868]

Cloud: "its kind of weird when you call me that 😠😒" Also Cloud: ✨🕺💃✨🕺↩️⬆️↘️↙️

[@FannyPackMan100]

I realize that the conversation about Cloud's age actually answers Barrett's question, as Cloud is canonically 21 in FF7.

[@paleriderpalehorse55]

Well, he has EXISTED for 21 years

[@nanamarley9601]

​@@paleriderpalehorse55 his *body existed for 21 years, his mind tho?

[@jwilsthem.c3780]

Its almost like Cloud is a teenager in a grown man's body.

[@BleachBasket108]

Hmmm 🤔😂

[@panchiquito5603]

Well... He technically is (I think)

[@XanderVJ]

@@panchiquito5603 Nope, he's 21. Granted, a lot of people still behave like teenagers in their early 20s.

[@kcluna2187]

Almost? Hehehe... Perhaps

[@panchiquito5603]

@@XanderVJ yeah but remember the years that passed while he and Zack were captured by shinra. I mean he technically went from 15 (or 16, I dont remember) to 21 in a moment

[@chaoticzer0688]

I feel the main thing that makes people think Cloud is an anime edgelord is them only seeing him in the KH games and Advent Children movie. Even then he’s got his reasons, in KH1 he’s just a merc doing a job, in KH2 he’s focused on helping rebuild Hallow Baston and also having to deal with Sephiroth. And the plot of Advent Children is him taking the weight of everything that happened and dealing with the grief and loss of ANOTHER CLOSE FRIEND, on top of basically planet cancer virus, and 3 twinks that look and act a bit like a certain one winged angel that one of them transforms into a literal root cause of some major trauma for him. Cloud is a character who is detached emotionally for various reasons and does his best to connect. That’s what makes him a good person, he genuinely cares for the ones around him and a part of his character arc in FF7 is learning/embracing that part of him.

[@Metroid22540]

"Planet Cancer Virus" The fact we're dealing with "geostigma" on a global scale, man does that hurt. And yeah, Advent Children wasn't the be-all-end-all of Cloud's character. Guy's gone through some really rough shit in his life, but that's all AFTER these chapters. Really curious to see where they take all this in the grand scheme of things.

[@chaoticzer0688]

@@Metroid22540 Yeah there’s the main thing for Clouds arc that he’s dealing with grief and loss and trying to literally shoulder everything as to not loose anyone without realizing how self destructive that is with him being infected with Geostigma. I really want to see more done with Cloud from that point forward and I hope with the remake being a thing that gets people asking for more FF7 stuff that’s a continuation

[@akiriith]

@@chaoticzer0688 yes, thank you!! I find it really sad that advent children gets this bad rep of making Cloud sound like a generic emo guy because people dont realize the depth of his trauma, or perhaps didnt back then, as mental health has really gone from something in the shadows to something actually discussed in a daily basis. Even in the original, he showed a few hints that he was carrying that pain and it needed to be dealt with. I've seen it called a reversal of his arc, because he's closed himself off again, but really, learning to work as a team doesnt have to mean entrusting them with your innermost secrets and fears- and the one person Cloud did it with, Tifa, is someone he is avoiding because he feels like he failed her and the children on top of his grief over Zack and Aerith. I dunno, as a brand new fan who binged the compilation, Advent Children was the only piece that actually made me tear up at the end. Even Zack's fate didnt have that big of an impact on me (even tho it punched me in the gut too). It just felt so good, and beautiful, and satisfying to see Cloud FINALLY deal with his trauma, and realize his friends and family are there for him not only physically but also emotionally. That he isnt free of it, but he IS "lighter", because he forgave himself, faced his issues when he fought Sephiroth (that fight had so much emotional weight it was amazing! this is a side note but I have no one to talk about ff7 OTL) and isnt alone anymore. That smile was the best payoff to the storyline I had been following. Its one thing that makes me quite enjoy the fact that the Remake seems to have more going on than just redoing the original, because it means that story IS important and isnt going to be pushed aside or downplayed as if it didnt exist, and (appears to be) an integral part of the new game's plot. I dunno if thats an unpopular opinion but I genuinely love that movie, every aspect of it. Its just a very satisfying, emotional ride with some really cool action on the side, and really well done for a company that focuses on games and not on movies ;;

[@Marcusjnmc]

@@akiriith agree

[@moonsets-on_you]

@@akiriith damn i enjoyed reading that experience of yours. im new to ff7 and will get the remake tomorrow. however im playing the original ff7 before the remake so to appreciate and judge the new changes. Edit: nah i wanna play the remake first lol

[@theotaku5312]

If anyone ever says that Aerith was a sweet and innocent engenue, I'm reminding them that she requested permission to kill from Cloud and beat a man over the head with a chair.

[@BknMoonStudios]

She also swears on occasion and told Sephiroth to go screw himself right to his face. Oh, and in the original game, she chose a sexy red dress when going to Don Corneo's mansion instead of going with something more modest. Aerith is a girl from the hood with good PR. lol

[@TonyPajamaz]

@@BknMoonStudios “a girl from the hood with good PR” holy shit you killed 😂😂😂 I have to use that.

[@TyrantKingFrost]

She's quite the streetwise.

[@bluejacob403]

PLS NOT THE CHAIR

[@zomboids2100]

And that's why we love aerith.

[@auratheva]

Never played any version of this game but I was so invested in Cloud's high five arc

[@justahuman9273]

😂😂

[@Braveheartbronie]

I just relized...Cloud must have never been given a five when he was a kid

[@livith9]

I knooooow!! I felt so sad when I realized that...

[@magicalgirl4]

Ya no one was his friend so he never got to :(

[@basedkaiser5352]

Oh shit you’re right ! He used to be ostracized when he was a kid and even when Tifa tried to get closer to him her friends did everything to stop that and then her father forbade Cloud from approaching her.

[@Ghostprince31]

Yeah this is why I think he’s so awkward cause he just didn’t have any social skills everyone were assholes for no reason except tifa which is sad

[@EmersonSisyphus]

Great video. People who unironically say that Cloud is just a generic anime edgelord obviously haven't played FF7.

[@VariableZero]

And probably heard of Advent Children first.

[@AspieMediaBobby]

@@VariableZero Seriously,have none of you heard of PTSD?!?!?

[@VariableZero]

Look, I’m not saying it’s not justified, but I think it started hurting Cloud as the generations passed.

[@zereon]

@@AspieMediaBobby *survivor's guilt

[@AspieMediaBobby]

@@zereon Something I and my ancestors are also very familiar with as a descendant of Armenian Genocide,Holocaust and Holodomor survivors.

[@tomasperez5916]

People forget that cloud used to be a *comic relief" character in the original game

[@AspieMediaBobby]

I mean,not exactly. He was never as chill,funny or sociable as Zack even though he tried to pretend to be and the harder he tried to act like Zack especially after the MAKO/JENOVA Cell mindfuckery from Hojo,the more he came off as a callous dick.

[@AspieMediaBobby]

Also,a lot of the weird mannerisms Cloud had in the Original were the result of bad localization and Zack was actually the original design for Cloud so the reason the reveal of Cloud and Zack being different characters seems abrupt and forced in the Original is because it literally was!

[@DRFEAR-fm8gu]

maybe for a while and kind of a large portion of the game but once he finds out who he really is you see his personality change he becomes more like a cloud that we know

[@salad712]

Perhaps.

[@BongWatah]

Let's mosey

[@fink_rat]

I learned two things from this: Cloud isn't an edgelord but just a sarcastic mess and Cloud doesn't know his own age

[@littlekitsune1]

He's only 21, there are a lot of people who are still dorks then.

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@littlekitsune1 i'm almost 32 and still act like a dork.

[@littlekitsune1]

@@pforgottonsoul I AM 32 and still act like a megadork, lol.

[@Starwarsdude8221991]

In the original, he spent five years in a test tube so he's only lived about sixteen years. He is a weird mess of Zack and what a sixteen-year-old thinks is cool and mercenary.

[@littlekitsune1]

@@Starwarsdude8221991 This is a good point.

[@fightocato]

Aerith is so good at making cloud open up it makes me wanna combust and explode

[@magicalgirl4]

Ikr I'm so happy to see the whole hi five part in here

[@nathanreal4020]

Aerith is good at opening up, especially with the help of Sephiroth

[@gaspenpayne6755]

@@nathanreal4020 noooooo 😂

[@borttheattorney6012]

@@nathanreal4020 BOOOOOO GET BETTER MATERIAL

[@nathanreal4020]

@@borttheattorney6012 [cries about it]

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Alternate title: *Cloud being socially awkward for 6 minutes.*

[@TheFuryHasCome]

“Kid if you wanna be a champion, just find something you like and practice at it with all your heart and soul. It’s that simple” *Proceeds to shake his ass with all his heart and soul*

[@AlexanderHarris]

This made me laugh way too hard.

[@islandboy9381]

Don't ever be afraid Cloud To shake that ass on the floor

[@syn_2529]

I think we know where he's a champion at

[@Xman34washere]

Fucking hell

[@PrestonK_Productions]

Never played FF7 before but I'm gathering this is the story of Cloud figuring out its okay to be human.

[@JamestheKilljoy]

Not really.

[@TheGameShelf]

It's moreso a story of self-discovery and acceptance, I still recommend you to try it yourself cause it's very well worth it

[@reicherwallace6774]

It's complicated....like every good story there are layers. I'd say while Cloud isn't my favorite character he's a character with more depth than you'd think considering how often people downplay him.

[@majklkiller859]

Its.... Really not like that. If you didnt play FFVII before. I higly recomend you do. The og game is on Steam, PS4 and switch. So you can play it on almost everything.

[@hylianfelldragon1308]

Close enough

[@ReverendSaucy]

Cloud's honest-to-god last words to a dying woman were "You owe me a pizza." I know it was supposed to be a touching scene but I COULD NOT stop laughing when I got to that part. Holy shit, Cloud.

[@hlewis3629]

Just like molly begging neflite for a parfait then ,in sailor Moon.

[@sterlingroberts6240]

That’s what Jessie would have wanted. She didn’t want her friends to be sad. When Tifa started crying, she asked if she did something wrong. She was always all about a good time.

[@fullcrackalchemist]

The genius of Nomura's writing really comes out in how he portrays characters dealing with death. "wHo wIlL i HaVe iCe CreAm WiTh?" "yOu OwE mE a PiZzA."

[@GeorgisTrying]

Genius lol, I didn't notice those similarities until you pointed it out. Nomura's an *interesting* lad

[@NoctLightCloud]

@@GeorgisTrying In Japanese, those sentences make a bit more sense, culturally. In English, it might sound off.

[@ImfernusRizen]

Because those were some of their key moments of their bonding. Roxas and Xion's friendship started because of ice cream. Their thing with Axel was eating ice cream together. Same with Jesse and Cloud. One of their key bonding moments was talking about her mom's pizza

[@Kuro-ii1tz]

Thank goodness you mentioned it so I'm not alone there, hah. Roxas's pure definition of friendship was having ice cream with his friends, when he can finally talk and relax and just have a good time. Cloud's pizza line, to me, felt like a desperate "Don't die, I still want to do something with you" sort of thing, if that makes any sense. Out of context both lines are hilarious, but in context I wanna cry

[@whichcache2517]

@@ImfernusRizen “Let’s eat some ice cream.” “We are best friends.” “You are right.” “Hahahahaha” I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist.

[@gasparguruoftime5475]

Cloud was perfect in Remake. So much of his true character is set up with subtlety. It doesn't hurt that they found him the perfect voice actor too; Cody Christian nails it.

[@sinemtimurlenk2211]

I did NOT know he says "bitch". Man, I really need to replay this game in english. I feel like the german version toned it down a little

[@livith9]

I don’t think the German version toned it down, since he doesn’t actually swear in the Japanese version (I think).

[@sinemtimurlenk2211]

@@livith9 Oh alright, then that makes sense, thanks!

[@NinjaSox7]

@@livith9 I don't speak Japanese but even if he did I don't think it would've been a big deal there bc swearing in Japan means basically nothing afaik

[@livith9]

@@NinjaSox7 I don’t speak Japanese either but from what little (and I mean LITTLE) Japanese I know, it didn’t sound like he swore in that sentence, but what do I know.

[@NinjaSox7]

@@livith9 That's probably true

[@planterbox]

"I really wanted to believe... we could..." "You owe me a pizza."

[@islandboy9381]

I like that the Remake put more focus on Cloud's insecurities hiding behind the badass merc persona. The original didn't do that much so when his identity crisis did come up it didn't really feel like he was build up to that arc as well.

[@theazureknight9399]

Remake Cloud is a different character. In the OG game Cloud oozed confidence at every point, almost arrogance. There isn't a single instance at the Midgar section of the game that shows Cloud at even coming close to being insecure. He's always incredibly full of himself and dosen't have any problems with social interactions or Jessie lightly flirting with him. He's a little bit like Zack from Crisis Core (which makes sense because, y'know...) With the difference that he's a lot more of an asshole. He even explains the Nibelheim incident in Kalm and talks about Sephiroth and how he has to stop him like it's just another day at work for him. Honestly, Cloud's characterization is a big mess through all of his appearances in games. In KH he's the edgiest of the edgy edgelords, in Advent Children he's a depressed emo confronting his trauma and in remake he's like a teenager trying his best to act cool and mercenary. I'm glad that all those games are set in different universes, makes it easier to understand why the guy changes so much

[@islandboy9381]

@@theazureknight9399 ''He's a little bit like Zach'' not just a little bit a lot like him that was the point, the Cloud in the OG FF7, before he really confronts his identity crisis with Tifa, isn't the real Cloud it's Cloud internalizing Zach's personality and mercenary attitude because of severe trauma. After healing from his identity crisis, the real Cloud is back and his personality isn't the same as before, he's more dorky (symbolized by his famous ''let's mosey'' line), more insecure but still has a heart of gold and is brave. The Remake Cloud is the same as the OG only now more cracks are shown at the beginning specifically to make players already question Cloud's identity. Advent Children Cloud is a realistic portrayal of someone being disease ridden and with severe PTSD from the years catching up to him, it's not just emo for emo's sake.

[@theazureknight9399]

@@islandboy9381 I wouldn't say Cloud from the early FVII is a carbon copy of Zack's personality though. Sure there's some Zack in there, but some things are very different too. Zack sure is very confident, but he's not arrogant, and he never acts superior to people. Also, Zack's whole arc is about, and i quote Angel on this one, "dreams and honor". Cloud on the other hand, in the beginning of the game was in it for the money, after that it was to help Tifa and Aerith, and after that it was to hunt down Sephiroth. That's why i say that Remake Cloud is a different character. It makes no sense for Cloud in the Midgar section to act like Cloud from after the Tifa cutscene. If he already acts like this, then what's gonna be the difference once he gets his identity back? Is he gonna stay the same? or is he gonna double down in the dorkiness and become Sora from Kingdom Hearts?

[@princeapoopoo5787]

I feel like the original Cloud was intended to be similar to remake Cloud, but certain things didn't come across well. The localisation of the original game quite frankly sucks in a lot of places, there's the lack of voice acting to think of, and it isn't exactly easy to convey emotions using blocky lego characters. Revisiting the original after playing the remake was honestly pretty interesting.

[@michafraczek1498]

Game just has shitty writing, lol

[@Diamond_Aura]

I think the way to sum up a lot of this is, Cloud uses a very dry sense of humor to cope with social interaction and to try to cheer people up. "Looks dead now", "You owe me a pizza", trying to overcome his lack of social cues for the high five... he's got issues, but he's trying his best to overcome them and he tries to bring that same wit even in people's dying moment to help them feel more at peace or even search for a reason to keep living.

[@2l84me8]

Cloud isn’t an edge lord, he’s just a mako poisoned sad boy.

[@user-pi1lb4tf2f]

The mako poisoning backstory and big sword puts him in the edgelord category by default. But at least we see in the remake that it ain't his choice and he would at least try from time to time to choose to be otherwise.

[@shura4916]

Just gotta say.. He isn't a generic anime edgelord. He's literally the progenitor of all sword wielding anime edgelords. No joke.

[@lydiaspiros3987]

nah mate that was Guts from Berserk(1989 - present)

[@lukatosic09]

Have you heard of berserk by any chance?

[@StormSnakeMG]

Guts would like to have a word. Even though I hate calling him an edgelord b/c he has every valid reason for his hatred.

[@Mister100Percent]

@@StormSnakeMG DAMN YOU GRIFFITH

[@shura4916]

Yeah Ive heard of him. Btw posted this a month ago. Stop jumping on the hype train just cause one guy mentioned him. Lol

[@soulechelon2643]

As someone who is somewhat similar to Cloud while in public: He's not an edgelord. He's introverted. For real, he has nearly every sign of being an introvert to the point of even trying to cover it up with false bravado. It's why I love him so much as a character.

[@mattstaab6399]

This all day. Cloud extremely ntroverted

[@Daedriczful]

I am just like Could too! I am extremely cool, ride a motorcycle and all the chicks want me.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Squall is the edgelord lol

[@erinyes3943]

Yeah same. When I don’t know what to say, I say nothing or blurt out the random shit that comes to mind. It’s real awkward Wishing ya luck

[@gaspenpayne6755]

@@Daedriczful yeah, i feel you bro, them hoes 🥲

[@Liezuli]

Cloud is like Jotaro, where he tries to act chill and cool, but is socially inept, and more than once comes off as an asshole

[@agabe3104]

@Dylan Ogega Actually he does. The manga legit proves this, because he smiles WAY more in the Manga.

[@ziongamer6905]

@Dylan Ogega No he’s literally just trying to be badass, that’s his thing.

[@personontheinternet2164]

@@agabe3104 wait what? It's an act? I'm not up on JoJo like that and this is the first I've ever heard of it. That's actually hilarious. I thought he was genuinely like that!

[@JeffGarbanzo]

To quote Jotaro, "Josuke, say something cool. Let him have it." He doesn't even really try to hide it.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Jotaron in part 3 is just a dummy edge character, in part 4, 5 and 6, well, he is daddy

[@sebastianostos9354]

I fucking love how confident he is in his dress “Nailed it, got it, moving on!”

[@b.lazing9923]

Cloud is the kinda guy that in truth is very dorkly but tries to act cool in front of others but fails but no one gives him shit because they know he is a nice guy

[@Oddfosshaugbagi]

Tries? Fails?

[@mrhappyface221]

Cloud: Find something you enjoy and stick with it. Put your heart and soul into getting better. It's as simple as that. *cuts to Cloud killing it in Honeybee Inn dance-off scene*

[@moonieland]

I'm never going to get over how adorable Aerith is. Like she's cute one moment, the next she'll beat someone up with a chair. She's the best girl.

[@alwaysyoutome19]

2:11 Aw man the only part missing before this was Cloud saying “I ain’t your bro” before he pushes Wedge off, no complaints tho 😂

[@inuyashaluvr]

YES omg that’s one of the best scenes, i laughed my ass off

[@magicalgirl4]

THAT IS LITERALLY ONE OF MY FAVOURITE LINES. The timing and delivery is so good and I laugh every time

[@C.J.One.]

THE BEST!

[@akemus9788]

5:29 omg that delivey. Superb voice acting. I think I'll play the game

[@loganthevillager9176]

Cody Christian with his finest lines.😂

[@mezzovii]

I adore cloud. He's not perfect, and it shows. I like his attitude, even though he can be really awkward or emo at times. He's more realistic than most rpg protagonists.

[@alexandrostype-2211]

Cloud is a fascinating character, he is like 3 persons in one, and those who have played the original will understand. FFVII was also like a psychological thriller, and a Journey to understand who Cloud really is. It was a very well written character, and it will be even more when all remake games will be finished.

[@NaitomeIya]

I couldn't put my finger on it for the longest time, but you nailed it. I agree FF7 series has its psychological thriller moments. Gives me the same feelings I have when watching psychological thrillers movies.

[@croissant-kun4025]

If you were hoping to see Cloud's underwear at 5:34, tough luck cuz it's all just a dark void

[@kaiyang9]

Were you... looking for it?

[@ms.pirate]

OwO

[@vgc_ivan8391]

he meant to say 5:34

[@retroprime6206]

*DAMNIT!*

[@simonhailom2477]

@@kaiyang9 Were you?

[@lens_hunter]

I love Cloud, he's even better in the Remake. Can't wait to see where he goes from here.

[@TheGameShelf]

Cloud is unironically one of the most surprising characters I've seen, I expected, of course, the generic anime edgelord. But nah FF7 turned my opinion around once I finally played it, the Remake just did him even better

[@lens_hunter]

Know what irritates me? When people call Lightning from FF13 a female Cloud. Fucking, no. They both do come off kinda stoic in the beginning but their reasons for doing so are entirely different and reasonable and they both grow differently into different people. This coming from a person whose favorite game ever is FF7, and who loves the 13 franchise.

[@jorvach9874]

@@lens_hunter I think I remember the devs said something about how they were inspired by Cloud somehow when designing Lightning, and the fans kinda... took it to mean more than it did or something?

[@NightPain]

@@lens_hunter I can see the similarities but Cloud is more of an introvert meanwhile Lightning is more of what we perceive Cloud to be when we’re first introduced to him. Lightning doesn’t make me laugh but she’s cool and Cloud makes me cackle because of his introverted, ‘tough’ persona

[@sarielgrace]

It's great that when Jessie mentions 'you failed the test' Cloud's actively trying to figure out 'test? what test!??' at 1:07

[@rindokanade2465]

0:36 Cloud: Oh *shit* REALISM?!

[@reubenfromow4854]

He’s not an edgelord, he’s an introvert 😅

[@Anail_Mhin]

Sometimes : same

[@relsevice2104]

socially awkward introvert

[@hairglowingkyle4572]

More like has problems with social interaction but yeah can't blame him

[@Ingisen]

Introverted people can deal with others just as well as any extrovert. Being introvert means someone feels "charged" spending time alone rather than spending it with others. I see a lot of people using these terms incorrectly lately

[@Anail_Mhin]

@@Ingisen lel chil. We are just joking around.

[@gureiratto]

BRING IT ON, BITCH I really reallly reallllyyy love Cloud Strife. I also really enjoy hearing him swear. LMAO

[@TheGameShelf]

That quote was so unexpected yet it's one of the best in the game

[@gureiratto]

The Game Shelf yesssss it is easily one of the best LOL I really like when he fails his driving test with Jessie and she says he should let her drive and he’s just like “nope”

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

The sass! I heard that and instantly gave three snaps, lol!

[@aaricbro.]

1:02 5:58 6:02 Since you said you enjoy hearing him swear, might want to check these out

[@senu.]

I used to think cloud was basic when I was a kid but now as a traumatized mentally ill adult I say he's probably my favorite character. how times change....

[@CloudyWolf713]

Hey. I just wanted to say I hope you’re doing ok out there.

[@yoshuia8629]

Cloud literally deserves love and affection the child has been through so much

[@RealestShaggyRogers]

Love how cloud looks visibly sad when he doesn't know what to do when aerith tries to high five him the 2nd time

[@conquestor_.]

They did his personality justice after advent Edit: thanks for the likes

[@karlas4446]

Advent Children takes place in a span of like two days, and it showed his struggles with mental illness ( PTSD, survivor’s guilt, and depression), which I think it’s very realistic considering the events...

[@maxi15]

@@karlas4446 I agree too. Cloud's been struggling with it for the past 2 years though, since AC was two years after.

[@relic5752]

@@karlas4446 And dealing with a terminal illness (geostigma)

[@skullofrebellion6653]

@@karlas4446 That doesnt explain his total shift of personality. Because they kept this personality in Dirge of Cerberus so it wasnt just ptsd, it was them forgetting he had an actual personality

[@shonensketcherbackupchanne2597]

@@skullofrebellion6653 except it does?? Cloud shifted his personality in the original game after coming out of his identity crisis then Cloud going through his bad funk in Advent Children, clearly he’s not gonna be hunky dory after everything has happened, they even gave Cloud closure by the end of the movie, also in Dirge of Cerberus he barely had screen time but his attitude was obviously better His personality was always there, you just seem to forget he’s a human being going through shit

[@Sagaan42]

"put your heart and soul in it" - next shot, cloud is dancing his ass off at the honey bee

[@IAmMuchAnger]

Cloud *is* a anime edgelord, but no one takes him seriously so his persona keeps breaking

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

I’m pretty sure he’s trying to be an edge lord but he messes up sometimes

[@jouheikisaragi6075]

I'd say he's what an IRL edgelord is like. He tries so hard to be this cool persona that he comes off as a dork. Then it goes back to being sad when you discover he acts that way to patch up his trauma ladden Psyche and try to be functional.

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

@@jouheikisaragi6075 I’ve met a lot of edge lords some of them I know really well they’re way worse than he is he seems like a dork but all the ones I’ve met really catch you off guard like they’ll say something really stupid and you can just tell they’re trying to be edgy Cloud succeeds at being a good edge lord he has the edge but not all the cringe that comes with it

[@CrasherX2000]

Plot twist:

[@user-qp1nv4mi8k]

Imo, I don't think he is. From my experience, the generic edgelord would spout out random smart-ass shit while saying stuff like "The darkness is my power" Or some random thing. Cloud encourages people to be strong. They congratulate people he cares for to be good. Just like how he told Wedge to be proud of him doing something good.

[@AJ-nd2cf]

Geez im really unfamiliar with FF as a whole and I barely know who this characters are or what they represent but im kinda feel related afther seeing Cloud, heck I might even play the game just to see more of him

[@TheGameShelf]

Cloud is a great character, and having his "emo e-boy" be proven false by his true dorky nature is a great thing to witness 7 is one of my favorite Final Fantasy, absolutely recommend it

[@skrilllfury2120]

4:37 This scene kills me.

[@benmemon]

I don’t know what happened there and seems like I don’t wanna know

[@eg0istic-al]

​@@benmemonit's a massage lmao

[@bathboy7115]

cloud was hilarious in the original too. best part imo is when he tells yuffie he doesn't care about what she wants or her feelings and that he needs the materia back saying it like shes a crazy person. fucking best ff.

[@cookybea]

I love how the second Jessie points out his smile, Cloud’s like “shit, wait, no emotion!”

[@GuitarJester89]

"I've got skills" I always love that part. Lol. I absolutely loved the Remake. Felt like a kid again. Can't wait for Rebirth.

[@cain.9761]

Cloud: "put ur heart and soul into getting better. It's as simple as that" Also Cloud: Dancing like there's no tomorrow Putting his heart and soul

[@minatoson5788]

I love the interaction between Cloud and Aerith at 4:30. The response is instant.

[@hyliandoctor]

0:37 doink

[@mugen1813]

I love this version of Cloud so much.

[@Abdega]

5:15 “You’re a good man” And a good woman apparently

[@jinxglow6695]

“Find something you enjoy and stick with it” Proceeds to twerk and grind at strip club

[@fahmymagdy3517]

0:49 he looks like hes about to cry lmfao

[@chiyo-chanholocaust8143]

I like how, even if you think Cloud falls under the edgelord shonen hero trope, at least there's a very good reason WHY he is like that, in fact he isn't: he just thinks he has to act like that

[@xshadowvenigmax432]

1:02; “Like I give a shit.” BRO I LIVE FOR THAT- 😆😆😆😆

[@yakisoba1816]

How can cloud be so badass and cute at the same time

[@MrKittyhead]

Cloud is actually so sweet though. He doesn’t try to be rude, and you can see him trying his best to show his friends he cares.

[@ProfessionalRalseiEnjoyer]

Serious dramatic moment: *happening* Cloud: Oh no! Anyways, you owe me a pizza.

[@Matthew-nk4fs]

Tifa : Cloud? Why are you cross dressing? Cloud : I'm fabulous, I know, I'll explain later

[@davidvasquez08]

He’s like you don’t wanna know

[@stevenobrien7686]

Cloud is actually such an amazing character. Always has been. Anybody who thinks he’s a generic anime character obviously doesn’t know him.

[@Neutra77]

Uncultured swines: "Cloud is such a generic edgelord! UGGH!" Cloud: 'dorkiness intensifies'

[@chrisrockett5897]

So, dude created Zuko syndrome?

[@shikitohno47]

4:10 okay that was fucking adorable LMFAOOO

[@loganthevillager9176]

Bro went in for a high-five.🥺

[@The1HP]

I lowkey got mad at Cloud sometimes at how edgy he was and start talking out loud. Like when Aerith was wanting a high five. I'm like, "Shithead just high five her bro." Also I like to add. I like how Cloud walks with the dress on, he tries to be so elegant with his posture when he doesn't have to, just like his edginess. Great intention to detail in this game.

[@Umbruhh]

Cloud Strife: *Gets called an edgelord* Squall Leonheart: Am I a joke to you?

[@KarateGirl999]

Don't forget about Vincent.

[@keketherealmvp7568]

0:37 The look of panic he had when his sword got stuck in the door frame 😂💀

[@NaughtMax]

I was initially put off ff7 because of the stuff outside the original game that painted him exactly like super cool turbo edge lord McGee, when remake came out I assumed that’s just who he was but I eventually tried the game out because the combat seemed fun, and I’m glad I did, playing remake led me to check out the original. I really like the way they handled clouds character and remake, his entire soldier first class act is something everyone around him seems to see through and it really endears you to his character.

[@captain0V]

The moments with him and Aerith are so CUTE 😭😭