Cobalt Teal PG50 Watercolor Comparison - Daniel Smith, White Nights, Schmincke, Sennelier, W&N

[@JayNathanWatercolor]

This cobalt turquoise light teal blue green (if I ever make my own paints, that is what I'm going to call it) is definitely growing on me 🤣 I'm pretty sure I had the full pan version of the white nights a couple of years ago and quite liked it. Thanks for the interesting comparison.

[@PaintinHiding]

always glad to hear turquoise is growing on you :D and 🤣🤣🤣 that would definitely cover all the confusion 🤣

[@awatercolourist]

I love that name! Good luck putting it on a half-pan wrapper 😂😂. You too thinking of making watercolours?

[@JayNathanWatercolor]

@@awatercolourist ah yes you're quite right. It's ok though I've thought of a clever abbreviation. I'll shorten it to cobalt turquoise 🤣 Maybe one day. We shall see 😊

[@awatercolourist]

@@JayNathanWatercolor Join the club ✊🏼✊🏼

[@monsoon_magic2874]

If you call PB35 "Cobalt turquoise light teal blue green", what will you call PB36?

[@VickyFlint]

Oooh I’ll have to try that Schmincke one - went down beautifully!

[@nguyengia1401]

I only have the Roman Szmal version which is PG50. It mixes a beautiful granulating gray with Carput Mortum, and a two tones pastel violet with PV19. I also mix it with PB29 for a soft blue sky colour, similar with Celurean blue. From your swatches, Schminke version appeals the most to me but that brand is just too expensive in where Iive 🙃. Guess I'm gonna back to good old White Night. Which colours do you mix it with and which brand is your favourite?

[@PaintinHiding]

i think i like DS’s hue the most but i dont mind any in my palette. they’re all great 😁 hmm, i dont think i use this colour a lot apart from ocean/beach scenes so i mix it with phthalo turquoise a lot

[@PinkWytchBytch]

This is one of my two favorite colors!! Teal/turquoise/aqua are just too beautiful in my opinion, they’re the perfect choice for those who can’t decide if blue or green looks better

[@PaintinHiding]

agree~ i also think it's a difficult colour to replicate.😆

[@awatercolourist]

Hello 👋🏼. I agree with you both. Cobalt turquoises and teals are like cyans to me.

[@rachellyddon78]

My favourite too 😊

[@jennw6809]

@@awatercolourist Bruce from Handprint agrees with you! It makes a great cyan in a CYM palette.

[@awatercolourist]

@@jennw6809 Wow! Thanks! Bruce and I must be soul mates 🤣

[@MarkBegbie]

Thanks for the great comparison. I must admit to a slight obsession for this colour- I think i have most of them. Unfortunately in most brands they are in the higher series so there goes the budget. For me its either the W&N or M Graham's (which is also PB28).

[@PaintinHiding]

definitely, i know what you mean ;P most of my budget went to my search for PR122. turns out they're all pretty much the same lol. now i have too many PR122 haha.

[@jengoodwyn2715]

Thank you! This episode actually helped me decide which brand and color I wanted to get!!

[@PaintinHiding]

you’re most welcome! 🥰 which brand did u end up choosing? 😁

[@jengoodwyn2715]

@@PaintinHiding The Daniel Smith Cobalt Teal Blue. I would be perfect for the mixing I want to do!

[@starr-starr]

Great timing, I’m planning on picking up a tube of Sennelier today!

[@PaintinHiding]

woohoo! hope u like it! 😆👍🏻

[@rachellyddon78]

I always think of teal as being a darker blue/green mix (it's named after a duck!) and turquoise being lighter, so I think the Daniel Smith is definitely more teal. I have the White Nights cobalt turquoise/pb28 and the Roman Szmal cobalt teal/pg50 and they are pretty much identical! 😊

[@tavenchristensen3157]

There’s two colors of teal. Teal green and Teal blue. The same applies to turquoise. There is Turquoise blue and Turquoise green. I love them all. 🤩

[@inger_musicart5620]

Such beautiful hues and also creates interesting mixes. Thanks for the comparison

[@PaintinHiding]

glad you enjoyed :) thanks for watching~

[@cigimon4]

well "turquoise" comes from the mineral that can range in hue from pure blue to straight up green so we'll never know what color anyone is talking about unless we see it 🙈

[@xyz7572]

I love the White Nights version but it’s not for sale in my country anymore, so this video was very helpful 😊

[@TsukabuNosoratori2]

If you can find it, M Graham's is a pretty amazing Cobalt Teal as well. I've used theirs, DanielSmith's, Sennelier's and I have a half pan of Schmincke's waiting for me for my bday in November. Just sitting there... in the box... calling to me... *cough* I also have the Kremer Pigment's version which I made and it ranks right up there with M Graham and Sennelier. Though I suggest maybe getting a pre-made pan of the Kremer one. It's just such a fascinating color, and seeing all the variations of it. My favorites so far are the brightness of Kremer's, the granulating and slightly blue under hue of MGraham's, and the cleanness of DanielSmith's.

[@PaintinHiding]

thank you for the great info Tsukabu! :D i don't think i'll be looking into those as they're really expensive and shipping is expensive as well. thank you for the suggestions though, I've heard great things of Kremer as well.

[@ari_9354]

Ah cobalt teal, definitely a must have for me on my palette, i probably don’t mind any of version of this color but price is definitely a selling factor. I use the sennelier one since it came in a 10ml tube and its cheaper than w&n, schmincke or daniel smith, the sennelier one seems to dry with a big crack on my pan but it rewets beautifully, i just got a daniel smith sample of cobalt teal and oh boy its hard as a rock but if you like granulation a lot in your paint definitely go for daniel smith but its very green not much blue. I think white nights is a great compromise great payoff in color, granulating and the most economical out of the bunch, mission gold also have a cobalt turquoise with just PB28 and its similar to white nights but more pricy, sadly my local art store stop stocking white night so i just buy a few pan to try and one of them is the cobalt turquoise

[@PaintinHiding]

my sennelier also dries with a big crack! i heard that it’s something to do with cobalts being more difficult to formulate than other pigments.

[@jennw6809]

My Daniel Smith dried beautifully in a pan, which is funny because DS is not exactly known for drying up nicely. It doen't rewet great though. I really love DaVinci's hue, it's my favorite color from them, and it dries and rewets nicely (although it took longer to dry than the other colors in the palette! Was a little runny at first whoops!) I tried to get a 37 ml tube from them during their recent sale, but they were out. They gave me a rain check but still don't have it back in stock!

[@ari_9354]

@@PaintinHiding yeah, they’re a heavy pigment i was surprise too since my other sennelier dry with a tackier feel to them

[@ari_9354]

@@jennw6809 i have a pan of ds payne’s gray and boy its not the nicest looking one on my palette, one time it even feel off of the half pan since it dried like a rock

[@jennw6809]

@@ari_9354 Yup many of my DS paints have fallen from the pan or parted like the red sea. Others are fine. So weird!

[@reneaclark7689]

To me cobalt turquoise is the more blue version and cobalt teal is more green. I love them all, but pb28 is my favorite pigment for turquoise and white nights is my favorite. That sennelier looks lovely, I think I need some!

[@nancyloomis3046]

I don’t think we need to be too concerned about the names the various brands give these lovely range of colors. What we have to go by are the actual pigments. But I agree it can be a bit confusing when even the same pigments can vary quite a bit. These teal/turquoise cobalts are some of the most beautiful watercolor & other paint colors out there. I use Qor cobalt teal wc and I absolutely love it. I am likely going to begin using cadmium and cobalt FREE paints (as I run out) but bc this color is such a beauty and likely made more that way by the cobalt, (and offers greater permanence bc of it) I’ll probably stay with the cobalt formula.

[@FelineFurKin]

I love this colour, I have Roman Szmal’s cobalt teal and sea blue which are slightly different, I use them both a lot.

[@PaintinHiding]

hi Feline ;D which of those two are greener? i've been looking at them and can't quite tell.

[@FelineFurKin]

@@PaintinHiding I think the teal is.

[@hendsaeed779]

Love this color! Schmincke seems so clean!😍 which one is your favorite?

[@PaintinHiding]

hi hend ;D hmm, i think i like daniel smith's because it's the greenest. a close second would be sennelier

[@graygato]

The first one I had was Holbein Cobalt Teal. A beautiful color

[@NanaBeth1]

I have the Daniel Smith-love it.

[@PaintinHiding]

i love the DS one as well since it leans green :)

[@annalime1282]

I am very disappointed of DS. Its disappears on the paper

[@nydiamontufar5145]

I have the Daniel Smith and I love it. This is a color that you can't make mixing other watercolors ❤

[@PaintinHiding]

hi nydia! i agree :D

[@jennw6809]

Oh, I just thought of googling "pantone turquose" (and teal and aqua) to see what they say....since Pantone is our modern color reference. It seems like they agree with the naming we like - Teal being the lighter color, Turquoise being the same hue but deeper in value. They call Aqua a lighter-valued Teal. On my computer screen, they are all approximately the same hue. It does seem to me that this color sits right on the edge between green and blue, and of course we've all disagreed with someone about whether something is green or blue, right? Different people feel those colors differently. I would add that Qor, DaVinci and M. Graham's versions of this color are more blue than Daniel Smith's. DS granulates more than any other; I suspect they add granulation medium to this color. The cobalt colors have very large particles, which is why they are opaque. It's possible Sennelier grinds theirs a bit finer.

[@PaintinHiding]

oho~ i’ll need to google that to see the colour differences. so interesting!

[@Chloe-zr9lk]

im almost scared to watch this. I just ordered my cobalt teal like 2 days ago. Hopefully i got the right hue i wanted (all the options i looked at are on this video ahahaha)

[@jennw6809]

What brand did you order? This is one of my favorite colors! I love mixing it to make separating colors.

[@Chloe-zr9lk]

@@jennw6809 I got W&N :) It might be a tad too green and opaque but maybe it will be a little different in person. I got Rembrandt Cobalt Turquoise Blue as a backup (PB28 i think) for a more blue shade if I found W&N too green. fingers crossed they are the hues I was looking for. But even if the W&N is greener then I would prefer I can mix it with the Rembrandt paint. And they should really open up my mixes. Stuck with pthalo and ultramarine at the moment. Very excited!!

[@PaintinHiding]

fingers crossed! 😆 and let me know how it goes~ 😁👍🏻

[@jennw6809]

@@Chloe-zr9lk You will love it. You can't mix this color :-) This pigment is going to be somewhat opaque in any brand. Not as opaque as a venetian red or something, but any opaque pigment can be thinned down to transparency. There's really no difference in opaque and transparent pigments, other than particle size. This color has larger particles, but that's also why it granulates. Even if WN is not your perfect shade, just mix in a touch of your other blues. Also, definitely try mixing with cadmium reds, it makes an amazing separating grey.

[@feliciabalza7474]

Anastasia Kustova use this color to mix it with violet to get beautiful blue for sky... What do you think about M Graham's version of pb28 teal?

[@PaintinHiding]

sorry, unfortunately i've never tried m.graham's version

[@JacquelineJax]

I think the teal versus turquoise color swatches you put up are right on turquoise as a jewelry stone has a greenish kind of hue that is lighter where teal definitely has a Moutier feel to it so since this shade is a bit Moutier, it could be cobalt teal, and if it were more light And a green or shade it could be turquoise

[@PaintinHiding]

oohh thank you for your input and explanation jacqueline! ;D

[@jorgefuentes7440]

I don't know if you've tried van gogh's turquoise green and if so, ask yourself which of the ones you've shown in this video do you think it looks like?

[@PaintinHiding]

i have several vids on VG turquoise green. it doesn't look like any of these cobalt teals cobalt turquoises.

[@jessbutterfly1934]

You really are in hiding I just found you and love your content

[@PaintinHiding]

haha, thanks so much! enjoy~

[@deliciouscolours]

Hi! I don't know if you will see this but is the Sennelier turquoise green runny if you put it on a pan or will it dry and not move? Thanks

[@PaintinHiding]

if you let it dry thoroughly, it does stay put. not runny at all :) if i remember correctly, it actually cracked a bit in the pan. but it doesn't fall out.

[@jennw6809]

Yay!

[@JessicaCEP]

I have to have a cobalt teal on my palette…I have a few of them…and they do all have different names…

[@PaintinHiding]

riiight? hopefully someone somewhere will standardize a name for tthis colour one day haha

[@jennw6809]

And M. Graham calls theirs Cobalt Teal, and makes it with PB 28.... and DaVinci calls it Cobalt Turquoise, and makes it with PG 36... and Qor calls it Cobalt Teal and makes it with PG 50.... 😂😂 I have the same problem - we need a name for this hue! One of my favorite colors, along with the darker version. I think of them as Cobalt Teal and Turquoise, for the lighter and darker versions respectively. I agree this group of colors is confusing. I think part of the thing with the word "turquoise" is that it originally referred to the mineral, and mineral turquoise can be blue OR green depending on where it comes from.... there's a range. (Also a lot of turquoise jewelry is fake and dyed!) I feel like the word "teal" is not something I heard used until the 80s... could it be a newer term that we use to refer to blue-greens? Even before I was painting again I had noticed that people use the word "teal" to refer to a wide range of blue-green colors that can be quite different. There's a huge part of the color spectrum devoted to these blue and green colors so our eyes & brains are quite sensitive to the differences. That's why it's so interesting to me that we have so few blue and green pigments!

[@PaintinHiding]

u always have all the cool info Jenn~ thanks for sharing! i completely forgot turquoise is a mineral! 🙈🤣👍🏻

[@rachellyddon78]

Teal is named after a type of duck that has a distinctive blue/green feather on its head 😊🦆

[@jennw6809]

@@rachellyddon78 Ohhh!!! Thank you so much

[@jennw6809]

@@PaintinHiding Yeah!!! Although I'm not sure anyone's ever made paint out of it, but it's possible (I'm assuming Daniel Smith is basically lying!). However, these type of colors are in fact exactly the shades the mineral comes in. Maybe someone invented it as a substitute, just like ultramarine was invented as a substitute for lapis lazuli. ??

[@GemukiDev]

If you were spanish, you wouldn't be wondering the difference, because there is not! XD We don't have a word for teal, it is all turquoise!

[@PaintinHiding]

🤣🤣 so many turquoises!

[@GemukiDev]

@@PaintinHiding in fact, before knowing about teal, for me turquoise was the darker color and the lighter was just cyan. Also because I was used to screen-space colors

[@djhadaverde]

The final scan image is more accurate for the real hues of them, the video lacks of green... Or maybe it's in my laptop... Colour correction and configuration is a pain in... You know what I mean ;) It's one of my favs colurs: I have the Sennelier, Daniel Smith, Windsor and Newton, QoR, Roman Szmal, Schmincke and Rosa Gallery (PB28) ones, (yes, I'm grazy but I use it a lot!) ;) Thank you very much, I love these kind of video comparison series, very useful!

[@PaintinHiding]

glad u enjoyed 🥰 and yeah, it’s always difficult to colour match but i try my best. it’s different in both my comp and phone so yeah, most likely display differences.

[@cigimon4]

how would you say the QoR and Roman Szmal compare? are they pg50?

[@creativesolutionstoart]

I think as far as value goes, teal is darker than aqua. and I would also say that teal is greener than aqua, aqua by nature is The color of water. turquoise would be a much darker aqua with a little less green than teal. I know it’s super confusing! But I’m just going by things in nature. although if you look at a turquoise stone, it is opaque and resembles cobalt teal very much! my boys and I get into debates all the time about the color teal lol

[@tavenchristensen3157]

JMO……. - Teal blue & Teal green. - Blue Turquoise & Green Turquoise. - Phthalo Blue & Phthalo Green. (I realize there are more Phthalos than these.) 🙂 - Aqua always seems to have a lighter value. (regardless if it’s blue or green) I think that Aqua colors SHOULD be purposely differentiated for ease of recognition! - Sometimes Aqua green is called Emerald Green. - And MOST of the time, Aqua Blue is just called Aqua. 😅 ✔️ I think it’s just a matter of more or less green or blue in the compound. That’s how I see it. BUT I’m not a professional. ….Good thing‼️ pheew 😅

[@annalime1282]

White nights always better!!

[@veystone2580]

All are cyan colors. All blue greens are considered cyan.

[@awatercolourist]

First!

[@PaintinHiding]

🥇how many do you have now? ;P

[@awatercolourist]

@@PaintinHiding I’ll count them when I get to the bank vault 😂😂😂

[@FuriedHearts]

I personally think "turquoise" and "teal" are basically the same terms and that they both refer to any color in the cool green / cool blue spectrum (and should be light valued-- the makes the colors have that bright appearance and also tends to make them a little opaque). I think most of these also fit into the cyan category as long as they aren't too green.

[@PaintinHiding]

aha! thank you for ur definitions~ it’s always interesting to know how others think as well 😊👍🏻