Cops Discover Evil Influencer's Disturbing Secret

Ruby Franke became famous, and later infamous, for the 8 Passengers KZbin channel. This would later come crashing down when myriad accusations came out, and from there Ruby Franke would team up with Jodi Hildebrant, and the two women would go on to do even worse.
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[@SockDrawerDemon]

The cop responding to her intimidation tactics by asking if she was having a medical episode must've deflated her ego a bit

[@buschovski1]

that cop was great. hes like: What the HELL is wrong with this lady?"

[@SockDrawerDemon]

@@buschovski1 "Lady, are you well? If you are having a stroke right now that's gonna really mess with our case."

[@mandilynn47]

Ruby, are you there? I know it took you hours to take your kid to er after a shower but yo hello???😂😢

[@kimberlys8422]

Oh he was _seething_ in his head, probably had kids around the same age. I could tell by his face.

[@ronniesims547]

recently retired old ER doc: lots of these crazy (but rational) types DID choose the ER at first. They regretted it when they met me and behaved much better in custody thereafter (some the easy way...). There's no Geneva convention in the ER. We got legit sick folks who actually want help ahead of you. Just sayin'

[@Crocogator]

Never ever forget that the husband who 'didnt know anything' never once asked about the wellbeing of the children.

[@lindalarson5468]

See no frickin evil....

[@WhatAWonderfulNameItIs]

Did I hear correctly? Did he say, I love my wife. Will charges be brought against her?

[@mobilegameclips5628]

You say that like it’s impossible for a mother to keep children away from their father…. Or like it’s impossible he did ask and she lied.

[@thayet]

nah that's not how that went...

[@Cove_Blue]

Yeah I caught that too. But he wanted to know what would happen to his wife because he "loves her." Now he's trying to get custody. I hope to God he doesn't .

[@SmokeyChipOatley]

When the "mother" is giving the cops the silent treatment after getting arrested, I would bet every cent I have to my name that the only thing on her mind is her seething anger at her young son for "putting her in that position". She's fantasizing about all of the sick and twisted things she's going to do to him as punishment. "Just wait til I get my hands on him". That's not a look of shame or remorse. That's the look of pure hatred. I hope "the real world" teaches this monster a lesson.

[@BlackslooklikeHarambe]

He’s a snitch and thief

[@wobblyjelly345]

Yep, she's a narcissist through and through. Pure evil. One of the first things I noticed was how she had to have HER face in the camera all the time for the family vlogs. Urgh.

[@kevwhit7058]

I hope her fellow inmates teach her a lesson.

[@alistairpayne5357]

Blue waffle for dinner every night 😂😅

[@nunyabidness6045]

I would be willing to bet all my money on it, as well! I was thinking the same thing, especially in that side profile when she was standing and the cop was asking her if she needed medical treatment! Her eyes looked BLACK! I was thinking to myself "dang, from this side profile, with those eyes, she looks a LOT like "Reagan" from the original exorcist movie"! 😬 You could see the rage just dripping from her! I pray she is NEVER able to get her hands on another child ever again.

[@Evilpixie6662003]

What a kind soul the neighbour is, i hope he and the kids are doing okay 😢

[@mikesanders8621]

At first I thought "wow this dude is cold af on this 911 call, id be pissed if i saw that kid". Then you realise he's just trying to stay in control in front the poor boy. That old fellas heart was breaking.

[@Frostbite08]

She called her own children "spawns of Satan". With zero irony. If they're spawns of Satan, what does that make you Ruby?

[@isthataspider7410]

👹

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

I don't think she's intelligent enough to even understand what she said

[@indianastones6032]

F**king evil, thats what!

[@HaneenIAdam]

good point

[@Kawasaki_King]

Seems a bit of a schizophrenic thing to say the whole demon possession thing?

[@dianner5148]

The man making the 911 call, had 100 x the emotion than the father. The father needs to be charged

[@cesardejeronimo8184]

Yeah, you saw him go into father mode when he answered the kid's plea for help. He is likely an amazing dad for his kids, if he has some.

[@DinoCism]

Can we talk about how the excuse he made for his wife was "our house is haunted?" He says "I'm a smart guy, I'm an engineer..." and then goes on to say he left his kids with a woman who sees shadow people. How does that make it better? She's either just plain abusive and you knew or she's abusive and insane and you also knew.

[@demisavage77]

I’ve watched the dad interviews on Reporting Live from My Sofa and the Dad is definitely off as far as Ruby is and just as much culpable

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

​@cesardejeronimo8184 you HAD to put in amazing for no reason at all.

[@SAOS451316]

Guilt isn't determined by how someone shows their emotions. In modern western culture men aren't allowed to feel anything except anger and this particular man was in the Mormon cult, which means he'd be especially repressed. He may not be a good father but you can't charge him with that.

[@kristienorsedragonwebber1328]

The fact that he asked what was going to happen to his wife before asking if his kids were going to be okay makes my head explode. He needs to be in jail, too. MONSTERS.

[@carolynm9638]

That’s my question. Why isn’t he?

[@carolynm9638]

Worst part is the kids have ended up in the custody of this swine.

[@ninjastorm540]

Exactly what I was thinking! He heard all the horrible things his wife did to their kids but was still more concerned about her. That tells be he likely knew. His reaction seemed like a performance, too. Like he was faking the concern

[@Trvium]

Oh man; that elderly gentleman choking up made me bawl my eyes out.

[@Swissmiss8899]

Same 😞😓😭

[@CocoWantsACracker]

Although I am emotionally detached from children in general, I have nothing but love and respect for people who care deeply about them. Hearing this man being so emotional made me love him instantly. This is the type of person every child deserves in their neighborhood: someone who truly cares about them being cared for. It also makes me ashamed of my lack of empathy for kids.

[@VeryCherryCherry]

"Diamond in the rough? More like 'Ruby in the shite.'" STOP. 😆

[@kkw-pal1178]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mish5820]

Yeah that must be one of his best. Mike is clever.

[@KeepItSimpleKat]

😂😂🤌

[@kokoskokso]

41:19 DISTORTION 🤣 this is why we love Mike!

[@neilvandermerwe7781]

I laughed out loud at that! 🤣🤣🤣

[@LardyMcFly]

The husband's reaction was more like "oh no, how did she get caught?" Rather than "oh no, what was that psycho doing to my kids?" He knew everything.

[@PeaceLoveHonor]

Oh, it's doesn't mean he knew everything, though it's possible he did. It does show he's every bit the narcissist his wife is, thought. So glad those kids are shut of these horrible examples of adults.

[@valeriejohnston1021]

He did not even once ask him his kids are doing or express even a little concern for them. He is only interested in his wife, he could care less if his kids are hurt or not. He is a lowlife coward!

[@margaretlumley1648]

He's a piece of work, too, IMO

[@cortneylilly]

He’s a worthless POS too. Sorry excuse for a man that made no effort to see kids after she refused to let him. He didn’t even try to take legal action.

[@tthom2459]

It's troubling to see how little emotion he expressed towards his kids. I tell you . . . . those Mormons in Utah and Idaho . . . are frckin NUTS. They all think the scriptures tell them their kids are evil . . or zombies in the Daybell/Vallow case. Lucky that the boy got away and grateful to the neighbor who took him seriously.

[@JPgene_]

The fact that people saw this family as anything other than creepy and insane from the beginning is startling. America is nuts.

[@brianhaygood183]

Mormons.

[@Swissmiss8899]

Organized religion is nuts.

[@olasmith8132]

The millions who watched her videos and endorsed her methods, subscribed and gave her thumbs up, and as a result made her wealthy have a lot of reflection to do perhaps.

[@justanothername5199]

​@@olasmith8132they won't, unfortunately.

[@Matilda-y]

100 x 👍 its so true.

[@einienj3281]

The empathy and sorrow in the neighbors 911 is more emotion than the parents have shown..

[@klm4446]

He's more upset about what'll happen to his wife than the abuse done to his kids. He's USELESS.

[@RendaJane]

He kept saying “I was invited to leave”, and it was after Jody and Rubes were sleeping together, but he was so bad that he couldn’t be around the family. 😢

[@Findpepperbridge]

His later interviews are so much different. The first one is definitely bad but after that it’s like the veil has finally lifted. It’s like he legitimately was brainwashed as well. But I am surprised he just left his kids knowing the weird shít that was going on and he hadn’t seen/heard from them for a year. Those kids needed so much help that the judge kept them in DFS just so they could do intense counseling..

[@michaels7258]

He never even asks to see them.

[@leigha2814]

​@@Findpepperbridgelike the later interviews where he says jodi was demonically possessed and they wanted to cleanse her? Weird how much that rhetoric matches Ruby's diary about cleansing her possessed kids, isn't it? There's no clarity to be had in ruby, jodi or kevin. It's a shame he's been allowed to escape justice. He should never be allowed near those kids again.

[@duMaurier15]

he is a SIMP.

[@jakecruise90]

Boy saved his siblings. He's a hero in my book.

[@altohippiegabber]

Agree! That took some big balls for a little kid to do what he did; Brave!

[@shendaraalshedir5403]

You're right!👍😃🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦🕊

[@passivelyasking4825]

A teacher asking "quite often" why your child is arriving to school hungry is crazy dude. Acting as if that is normal is sick.

[@coolcat6103]

Why didn’t the teacher call CPS?

[@passivelyasking4825]

@@coolcat6103 Don't know. Should have.

[@coolcat6103]

@@passivelyasking4825 ikr I’ll bet if ruby was ugly and large they would have been right on her case! Just goes to show how far a pretty face can get you, no lunch …..again? The injury’s to the children or the missed school days, the size of the children…. I mean these things don’t just happen overnight, they must have seen the state of the children? Surly? Meanwhile ruby looks well fed, well groomed with nice clothes and expensive makeup and at times open to the abuse of the children, and happy to tell the teachers that she couldn’t care less if her child goes without food n water in blistering heat!! I can only assume that the Mormon church has its “agents” well placed within the school, the doctors office, the CPS, the police station, and the court house!! Even with the open abuse of her children’s missing lunch, to the soft ball approach towards her husband and his non arrest, to the court proceedings which looked to be quite a gentle approach towards ruby! It wouldn’t surprise me if the Mormon church has agents in the prison too. I hope she gets special attention from the inmates. When they knocked in her door she must have ran that child upstairs, locked her in and immediately called her lawyer as opposed to just opening the door like most people. The other woman were expecting some people from Porto rico later on in the day, the one who had the girls scrubbing the floor was up to no good too because she didn’t question why she was being detained, like she already knew. I’m sure something else was going on because ruby didn’t expect them to enter the home but was talking to a lawyer. so I’m sure who ever was coming up from South America was maybe the reason they all thought the police were there!! Maybe the girl was being placed into another Mormon family or a bride for someone? Something was definitely not right with that girl being in that home

[@uuh4yj43]

in my country that's mandatory reporting by a teacher if deliberate, and and schools have free lunch!

[@autumn111155551]

@@uuh4yj43it’s mandatory to report that in the US also

[@kwg5044]

That father is complicit.

[@beowulf716]

"Her teacher is uncomfortable with a child being hungry." Yes, that's the human response to a person not having their needs fulfilled.

[@dmbalsam]

Teachers are also, required by law, to report child abuse, at least in my state.

[@averyeml]

And to follow that up with “and she wants me to come bring food so I can ease HER discomfort” No mama, she wants you to come bring food to ease YOUR HUNGRY DAUGHTER’S discomfort 🙄 I promise you, if it got to that level of a phone call too, it’s not the first time. I teach and the first time a kid forgets a lunch you call, maybe leave a voicemail, and if the parent’s like “nah I’m not bringing food” you figure something else out. You only dig in and argue back with the parents once it’s a pattern.

[@kimr45]

@@averyeml A call to CPS.

[@andiepants]

Ugh the way he said "uncomfortable" was really irritating 🙄

[@user-ue1hs3ty6z]

With teachers today, kids don't stand a chance.

[@gordanazivkovic]

That boy asked for the police, not his father. That is all we have to know about that smart engineer.

[@wobblyjelly345]

Excellent point! I feel that the father knew but he was acting dumb. How can he continue to profess his love for his wife after being told what she did? One would think he'd angry and shocked. He's just as guilty.

[@BJPalmerDC]

100% If there is one thing certain, engineers are very similar to vegans, cross fit “athletes” and nurses. You will be informed of their profession within minutes of meeting them with a courtesy reminder on subsequent connections as though there is a responsibility for everyone to know. FFS, we don’t need to be told, EVERYONE around knows exactly who they are and how very intelligent they are 😉 This is ALL on dad. If he had a lick of common sense, he would have kept his chub away from that €unt. What an imbecile.

[@michaelr9839]

Yeah that guy turned a blind eye which in turn emboldened the crazy wife. Both guilty as sin.

[@ericalexander5890]

Yeah, Michael gave him wayyy too much of the benefit of the doubt in this video. The husband is as nutty as everyone else.

[@ryanbolson23]

Yeah the husband likely knew but state governments all across America are very anti-dad. If he reports child abuse, some states arrest the father first regardless of submitter and ask questions later “for the benefit of those involved” Courts routinely give the children to the mom’s even when dad’s point out abusive tendencies because “mom’s know best!” And if he were to intervene it’s very possible she claims abuse against herself because she’s psychotic and gets him arrested until proven innocent.

[@NoneofUrbizness-qs5th]

So glad that neighbor helped him out. Bless his heart. He's a good man.

[@crystalh2211]

The photos of the little boys wounds and how emaciated he was really put everything into perspective. View at your own risk 😞😞😞😞 had he not ran away from these evil monsters, he may not be with us anymore.

[@kathrinewilson559]

First thing the police did was offer Ruby snacks, water and mediccl attention/support. Basic human rights she denied her children.

[@AnnieBoBannie421]

It’s only because of the cameras… if there weren’t … she would know exactly how they feel and what she is…

[@jimbrookshire8995]

I’m sorry but it would be so hard not tell her how much of a pos she was body can or not!

[@tr0picz33]

It’s a way to get her to talk. You gain nothing in investigations by treating your suspect like sh!t. Acting like you like them gives some trust.

[@lasskinn474]

@@AnnieBoBannie421 you completely want cameras with such a lah of a woman

[@erikm8372]

Yeah, they have to follow basic laws & protocol, even with wicked witches like Ruby! 😂 🧙 The mere offering of food and/or medical attention explains Ruby's silent-treatment & blank reaction as the cop was attempting to cater to her entitled ass. Not even attempting, he was WANTING to cater to her. And Ruby knew in that moment, by being offered her basic necessities of food & water, and being given an option for medical attention, she couldn’t use that against the officers in court. They weren’t making her detainment barbaric, something she obviously knows nothing about... It’s a “minor” thing in the grand scheme of the case, if she were to accuse police of mistreatment, but we know people like her will grasp at straws to find every little fault they can with law enforcement. Or even with the prosecution‘s side in court. Even though Ruby denied her children the same basic necessities, we know that a conniving mind like hers will try to pin that on law enforcement/first responders later on, her lawyer saying some BS like, “they didn’t offer her any help or water,” or something. She’s got it all “planned out” sooo well in her mind… But the cop reaction was priceless! “I know you don’t believe me, but I do have to make sure you’re medically sound and healthy, are you okay?” This B just stares and looks away…

[@jamiewestern7273]

"I have my attorney on the phone." Officer: "That's great. Step outside." 😂

[@Newnodrogbob]

I saw your comment before I saw that part of the video, and it’s even better than I thought it was going to be.

[@danacruz6423]

I can't stand when people act as if Ruby was just an innocent gullible little girl when it is evident she was sadistic long before Hildebrandt.

[@Li9LoP]

Yep! She was doing it long before she just found an alike, an enabler!!

[@cnaz8709]

The father is also complicit in the abuse. I was shocked when he was more concerned of what was going to happen to his wife, instead of the children. The poor kids. Most of the main adults in their lives were selfish narcissist. As disgusting were the two over nourished individuals who got free cleaning services before their parties. Disgusting

[@sammihawe9836]

When that neighbours voice cracked it made my heart break 😢😢 he’s an awesome man

[@shannon222ish]

It actually got me choked up for a sec just hearing the heartbreak in his voice. God bless him 🙏❤️

[@bcpr9812]

It gets me every time. It's how a normal person with empathy reacts in a situation like this. His wife was really sweet, too, giving R food and water and telling him that he's a good kid. She reassured him while her husband was on the phone with the dispatcher.

[@badcampa2641]

I choked when he choked, its a powerful moment for sure

[@sammihawe9836]

@@bcpr9812 that’s good to hear. I’m sure that was the kindest interaction he had had with an adult woman in a while 😢what a strong little boy he was to trust them and help blow this all wide open.

[@sammihawe9836]

@@badcampa2641 it just speaks of how injured and malnourished the poor boy must have been 😢 heartbreaking

[@killjoy3000]

Ruby blamed everything on Jody, but Ruby was already abusing her children before she met Jody. Jody simply amplified the abuse and made it feel legitimate

[@mkkrafts9261]

Right?! That's what I've been saying....

[@eveelee4152]

I heard somewhere that she been taken her “classes” if I can call it that and before they got “close”

[@Anna-cx4tg]

Exactly. The husband needs to be looked into.

[@eveelee4152]

@@Anna-cx4tg I hope they do because there no way he didn’t know what been happening in the house regardless If she kick him out

[@terriemartinez9989]

Any kind of *man* who claims to be a *father* and doesn't try to communicate with his children for over a year, is neither *man* nor *father* , and if he cared not, then why did CPS think he would care now?

[@reallz1997]

I remember seeing a clip of this woman pulling over after a car had a bad wreck in front of their car, NOT TO HELP, but to record and tell her kids they should've been in that wreck. This woman is not mentally well 😂

[@almondglayze]

This lady said she hopes no one shares lunch with her child. What?!? She will get better treatment in prison than she gave her kids, which is very upsetting. And she has no regrets.

[@JulioEuropePharmaVendor]

The empathy of the neighbor to the point were he is crying at the phonecall about his experience with the boy is a glimpse of hope for humanity

[@dgonthehill]

HE is a good parent

[@kathyw3466]

The neighbour was the only normal one. Bless him.

[@Lil_lioness]

Omg yes, he started out so calm but you hear him break when describing the poor kids condition. Pretty sure he was trying to stay calm and collected for the boy's sake but couldn't. Such empathy and compassion.

[@erikm8372]

I know, the boy likely had no idea that the situation would choke someone up like that… he was just desperately seeking help! That sweet man! 😢 But isn’t it funny how the neighbor told 911 “we know there have been problems at his house”? 🤔 Makes me wonder what the neighborhood knew, and how they knew. Also, how many of the neighbors were followers of the YT channel or simply watched? And were appalled or aware of what was happening…I hope the neighbors have kept in touch with the kids, or at least have seen them since this happened.

[@Leonicles]

He's a veteran too, so he's seen some sh!+.

[@RikkiestAndTikkiest]

The concept that a child could "steal water" is utterly insane. Diabolical.

[@buschovski1]

Its some Shanda Vander Ark shit. She did that crap to her son Timothy Ferguson. You might know the case. Its worse than this. How can people do this idk

[@romanthomas2748]

Stealing water 😮. I don't think that's possible.

[@kimmyfreak200]

@@buschovski1like when R. was stuck with a cactus in the neck..shanda did that to timothy too... well paul did..by punching him or putting the pizza rolls up to his nose... zonked out due to starving and being dehydrated it can make u hallucinate

[@davilathegreat]

@@romanthomas2748 You might not be familiar with the US's prosecution against rights groups who left water for migrants in the desert.

[@joannewilson1483]

That scrag ruby and her dolt husband need jail time bad no excuse just a plonker

[@user-ik9kt1gm6z]

Hearing the neighbor struggling to keep it together while talking to 911 is heartbreaking. I’m sure the cops and paramedics were also struggling to hold it together, both from trying not to breakdown and from being angry at these to monsters. And I love how Jodi is panicking because she knows she is screwed. And I love how she was so used to being in control and having authority but the cops weren’t playing her game.

[@antisocialsocialite5046]

Not the first child abuse case where one child escapes and runs to a neighbor..the bravery these poor kids had knowing whag would be done to them if they failed...true courage right there you go Russell

[@keriporter1564]

“I’m a smart guy. What’s emaciated? I’m an engineer. What does under medical care mean?” This “father” is a horrible person and should be charged too. Playing dumb is his get out of jail free card

[@lindalarson5468]

I think he is stupid. If they had prosecuted him, he could have worked on his vocab in prison. Emaciated is hardly a big word for most people.

[@boathousejoed1126]

Right? Anyone who describes themselves as "smart" usually aren't.

[@daCubanaqt]

He was out of the picture for a year after Jodi made him leave. I’m not even sure he saw the children recently. He just left them with Ruby and Jodi. It’s so crazy. Ruby and Jodi were planning on taking the underage children to Arizona to build a ranch. I seriously think those children were going to end up dead if that boy hadn’t gone to the neighbors. Kevin didn’t seem to care about the children. He’s just asking about his wife in the police interview, not his children. I found that very interesting and upsetting at the same time.

[@keriporter1564]

@@daCubanaqt I think when her and the kids left he saw it as his money makers gone. He didn’t care about his kids then nor does he care now

[@KyleHilton-qh6nr]

Education does not equate to intelligence...

[@parton_me789]

Chad had his room taken away for 7 months for playing a trick on a sibling. Now Ruby's room will be taken away for child abuse.

[@jedross2136]

She’ll have a room. That’ll be all she has, but she’ll have one!

[@ryecroft13]

But she gets a bed, because it's a basic human right. What a pity, there's a perfectly good floor, I am sure.

[@ktc107]

They should take her cot and give her a beanbag make her see what her son went thru

[@RaccoonNation]

You ever seen the video on Ruby’s channel Thats titled “my kids arrest me” or some shit like that 😂 Mike played a clip of the video on the intro here 😂❤

[@catherinewilliams3850]

@@ryecroft13 They should give her the bed but no mattress.

[@autumn111155551]

That cop at the jail showed Ruby a lot more concern than she deserves

[@Gecko....]

Just tactics to make her open up. Narcissists love being pandered too.

[@Tam00393]

The real tragic part is that prison will treat them both better and with more humanity that they showed any of the children. Prison will feed and cloth them, let them out into the sun, give them socialization, a cot, a cell with space and light, ect. More than they ever gave these children.

[@jenn8179]

Those kids would have died if "R" hadn't gotten to the neighbors. It wasn't the first time he ran away either. He kept trying. That child saved his own life and his sister's. ❤

[@texasrefugee7888]

I know right! Did you hear how they sadistically treated those kids' wounds by putting honey and pepper on the wounds? Those kids could have had a terrible infection under that damn tape.

[@tigq1430]

Days away from buying the land....😔

[@scrounder]

When you're in that kind of situation for such a long time, you start to believe you are completely trapped and no one will help you. For him to escape and seek help was so incredibly brave, given how hopeless he must have felt in that moment.

[@Jacklyn-zc8dc]

​@@texasrefugee7888 Annie on 10 to life said Reddit showed the wounds on their wrists and ankles were down to the muscle and grotesque.

[@jediping]

Jodi and Ruby used the threat of jail against R. When he wanted the neighbor to call the police, he thought he was turning himself in. He figured prison would be better than what he endured. Which is true, unfortunately for the desire for vengeance I have for Jodi and Ruby.

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

"I made her clean the floors..." 2 seconds later "she did it on her own free will". This group of abusers probably runs deep, that lady knew more than she was acting like.

[@boathousejoed1126]

Bingo!

[@lisavalentine8877]

I caught that too. Ruby was loaning out slave labor, and Pam was totally fine with that.

[@margotchanning1822]

Yes NO-ONE is surprised on hearing about the abuse, like, I'd be saying 'wtf?!?!?!'. They're all complicit.... disgusting humans

[@girllane1536]

Yep. Most coverage of this case here on KZbin gives an important context ! Connections was recommended to Ruby and her husband through the LDS church.

[@Cove_Blue]

I don't trust the whole state at this point

[@elizabethmay7262]

They should never be released. They are disgusting excuses for mothers and women. At least the children are rescued now. The father was concerned for his wife which was in itself horrific. He was more concerned for her than he was for his own children. He should be prosecuted for child neglect also. I hope he never gets them back as he is as twisted as his wife!

[@dolldoll2914]

👩🏻‍💻I love watching Jodi Hildebrant (rewinding several times) getting pulled out of her house by the police WITH her attorney on the phone; she knew exactly what was up.😅😅😅

[@DocBree13]

Me too

[@user-fy4uv9wb7o]

The footage of that poor emaciated girl sitting there for hours not moving and even waiting almost 15 minutes to eat when they order her food because she's so scared to disobey Ruby or Jodi is some of the most heartbreaking and blood-chilling footage ive ever seen. Those two deserve every bit of jail time coming to them.

[@CrazyBear65]

Instead of jail, how about a gallows?

[@theeclectic2919]

I don't think 1 to 15 years is long enough. The should get a mandatory 18 years for each count, served consecutively, with no possibility of parole.

[@yourbootyholeisyourbeautyhole]

@@theeclectic2919there are four counts, though. how much is 15x4? they won't be seeing the light of day for a long time. at the very least it'll be four years, but i heavily doubt either of them will even be eligible for parole within that time frame. no but for real what's 15x4? i literally failed remedial math

[@savagesalvage9449]

Sad thing is they likely won't even serve the minimum 4 years for that sentence

[@abbiesatterfield7299]

That young boy was a HERO. he saved his siblings. Hero hero hero. Bless their little hearts. 😭😭😭😭

[@magnavoxfifty]

The timber in the voice of the man who he asked for help. Was one of authority and reassurance at the same time. I think this boy knew once he was invited for a seat he was going to be okay and this man was going to make damn sure of it. That's a real man. No one was coming to take that kid back with him around. We need more men like him.

[@I_am_a_cat_]

That little boy going to his neighbors house literally made me tear up. That poor family, man... how anyone can support them blows my mind.

[@mesmartgnome]

Anybody who thought this woman was a good mother and a role model should be investigated by child protective services. This woman has always been a psycho.

[@Stijn5]

Influencers and instagram "models", the lowest forms of life.

[@yabby2000]

100%!!! Always thought she was so awful and could never understand how anyone watched or supported her

[@nicolegroves6880]

@@Stijn5 that's incredibly unfair. These people are awful, yes. But not all influencers are awful. There are definitely quite a few that are narcissistic and ridiculous, but I still think it's unfair to say that every single person in that line of work is a horrible person. My sister is an Instagram influencer (started on MySpace and Live Journal) and she is an amazing, humble and generous person.

[@dxcSOUL]

I'm sure it's a similar case with 99% of "momfluencers."

[@bcpr9812]

It's the glee she seems to derive from punishing her kids, and also that punitive measures for arbitrary slights are all she does. There's no kindness, no compassion, no encouraging them to become individuals and functioning adults in society, and the rules aren't clear and consistent. They're whatever subjective terms exist in her own narcissistic mind at any given time.

[@ImTaryn]

"I have my attorney on the phone 😢" Cop- "thats great step out of the house" 😂😂

[@chrisc4831]

2 passengers onboard the prison bus!

[@lesliebean4594]

“I cleaned his toilet, by hand” is so random. How else would you clean it? Lol So weird. Glad these babies were saved.

[@Michael-lu7xp]

She meant with her bare hands. Not with with gloves and a brush but by hand.

[@lesliebean4594]

@@Michael-lu7xp ew. Who does that? 🤣

[@Michael-lu7xp]

@@lesliebean4594 lol apparently she does.

[@stephanemami]

Once again... KZbin "protecting" the kids by censoring content like true crime when it's made by adults for adults, but being OK with parents filming their kids on a daily basis and putting it out there... Her content of course is specially disgusting.

[@Ian-mj4pt]

Sounds about right ✅️ everyday words censored but shit she did because the church and religion so they get a slide

[@cholieandresa]

This, all this. Every word.

[@satanswolf]

Same story with all the tech giants, closing an eye on some illegality for the profit, until someone gets busted then they deny the fault and condemn the crime publicly. Same old story. At least in this one the kids got out alive.

[@AL-fl4jk]

But… the ✨ADVERTISING DOLLARS✨

[@rachaelleann9847]

I know right, I understand bluring them out but not about them allowing to be able to use their children for content. its insane and sickening to me, all the "family" channels makes me sick.

[@markbaker5599]

Oh man, that 911 call from the neighbour, the dude breaking down and almost losing it was utterly heartbreaking.

[@Mybestfriendlivesinboston]

There is another version of the audio where you can also hear his wife , in that moment he starts to cry you can hear her telling R “you are such a good boy” , made me bawl

[@doom3869]

that neighbor showed more emotion than the father did

[@Brett733]

ya he seemed like a such a sweet man.

[@nicholasagnew2792]

He took one look and said "He's emaciated". Why didn't any teachers see there was something wrong?!

[@justsayin1991]

@@nicholasagnew2792teachers? The kids were homeschooled at that point. They didn’t leave that home.

[@someonerandom256]

I've been following along with the problematic behavior of this family channel, and later Connexions, for years through anti-family-vlogger and anti-fundie coverage. People had been calling CPS on them for ages. Kevin always sat there smirking when she would use some kind of sadistic, harsh, and/or archaic punishment, like taking Christmas away form her two youngest children. He always seemed to find it amusing. He may not have been there when this shit went down, but he knew what Ruby was capable of and didn't try to protect his children, ever.

[@joedistin]

“The most upsetting thing is I am completely misunderstood…” yeah. The misunderstanding. That’s the worst part-or maybe, like…the kids locked in a walk-in safe, with no food/water/light. I guess it’s a toss-up?

[@alwaysflushinpublic]

Currently the most upsetting thing for Jodi is the 3 x's she has been taken to hospital from her new prison. The last time she was in ICU for a few days. Gosh, wonder what's going to happen to her. Probably something worse than being misunderstood.

[@ksgnation]

"I made her scrub the floor because I had company coming over....but she did of her own free will...I gave her lunch". These people cannot be serious.

[@tammybutler44]

I about fell out of my chair when I heard this. I MADE her scrub the floor. I hope this lady didn't get off scott free!

[@dgonthehill]

they wicked like ruby

[@dwayne_dibley]

@@tammybutler44 30 years each minimum from what I read. House is on the market for 5.3m

[@annieminer-slothower0927]

@@dwayne_dibleyI think she’s talking about the 3rd lady, Pam. Not Ruby or Jody.

[@TheGreatProphecy]

What? lmao. Thats a very normal thing to do. "Hey kids we have company coming over, cleanup and we'll have lunch before they get here." You switched words around too, to make it seem worse. "We had lunch", not "I gave her lunch". As a kid, I helped clean up at my friends house because I had stayed the night. Quit making something look like its not. The other people are wack though, and its horrendous what happened to these children. But Pam def wasnt a part of it.

[@keryeeastin4022]

The compassion in the man's voice, who called 911, made my heart catch

[@StrachNaWrooble]

19:48 yes.

[@zarasbazaar]

I tear up a little ever time I hear it. That kid found the right people to ask for help.

[@LovenEverythingNails]

Same - made me little emotional.

[@jenmurphy7777]

Any dad who just found out two of his children are in the hospital would be busting down walls to get to them.

[@deez4evs]

Not to mention he should have been FURIOUS or some strong reaction when he learns they were tied up and malnourished … he really should be charged in some capacity as well… like where was he living? Why wasnt he aware of the condition of his kids..

[@corvinredacted]

People talk about how bad things are in prison for men who abuse children. Imagine being sent to prison with a bunch of moms.

[@cj4607]

Anyone who ever went hungry in their youth would NEVER withhold food to a child as an adult. I hope her children will never see or talk to her again.

[@littlemisseatscrispsforbre5353]

That is such a true statement. Hunger and thirst pains are something you never forget.

[@15Beaches]

Exactly.. Besides the hinger, pain, mental anguish it causes, the brain needs food to a) function properly, and B) at young ages, to develop properly.. This woman is so warped..

[@tinkercat8268]

That’s a fact. I totally overcompensate when it comes to my kids because of how much I lacked as a child and I am not at all sorry about it. Spoiling kids has become a favorite past time for me.

[@daisybelle1025]

This ....I was in secondary school ( I don't know the American equivalent sorry), when a friend brought me lunch into school. Tasting proper bread for the first time made me cry. Bless that friend and her mom, because for the rest of my school life she sent a lunch in for me everyday, so I could take my school supplied sandwich home for dinner. Now I'm a mom, the one thing I don't scrimp on is food....my child will never know that desperate hunger

never when i got divorced from the kids mum ,i was struggling for money i often went without food for 2 days eating ceral so i could save the money for the girls , i iwould never let them go without never its unforgiveable, i often struggle as a manhow some women treat thier kids as they are the ones who bear them

[@leannemoore2620]

Husband barely reacts to being told his kids were tied up, didn't ask how they were, didn't give a shit. Just asked about his wife. There's no way he didn't know.

[@tiger.wolf.2033]

She called him once she realised she was in big trouble on the way to Jodi's bunker...😂

[@johnmccall2413]

Are the kids okay? Can I see them? (haven’t seen them in a year). These are questions any parent should ask.

[@RoseNZieg]

he didn't know and he didn't care. he is sticking to the notion that his wife knows best on childcare. he's a crap father.

[@jonslg240]

This post right here should have 1000 or even thousands more up votes. I came here to make the same comment. There was plenty of bad shit going on before he got kicked out of the house, maybe not quite to this extreme but pretty damn close. He doesn't seem surprised at all. *When they tell him about his kids he never asks if they're okay, never asks what's going to happen to them, never even asks where they are. Never says he loves them.* But then when they talk about his horrible wife he asks what's going to happen to her and states he loves her. I think they should have charged him, too. I'm sure the kids had plenty to say about what went on while he still lived in the house.. But maybe they didn't. It's hard not to love your parents, and if he wasn't the abusive one then who knows. But I'm guessing he definitely saw abuse happening while he lived there, and would have kept allowing it to happen if she let him come back.

[@greefo]

​@@RoseNZieg😂😂😂HE DID KNOW! HE EVEN PARTICIPATED IN SOME OF IT.

[@diablos250]

The neighbour who took care of the young lad made me choke up. So glad he was there for him.

[@ciaraconover2290]

Man, i signed all the petitions for the kids. Made calls to cps. I bawled when i found out, it got so much worse.

[@doygazgar]

Calling a meal a PRIVILEGE and taking it away as a punishment is beyond evil for a child and just truly disgusting 😮

[@smurfie8412]

When ever someone looks at me while I'm eating, I hold the food closer and eat it faster

[@osvaldomedina173]

its looks like prison talk...

[@renecruz2964]

Last time I checked a meal or food is a need not a privilege 🤦‍♀️ (people are entitled to their basic needs...food, water, clothes, shelter) ruby is not that stupid she knew that was all bs and just used it as an excuse to inflict abuse on her kids and promote her agenda

[@Trenchcoat3]

Yup. Sometimes when my brothers kids are being fussy and refuse to eat a meal he just says ok, and wraps it up and puts it in the fridge. Difference is they’re allowed to change their minds at any time and dad will unwrap the food and heat it up for them in the microwave. Which always happens within an hour or two. And it’s never done as a punishment. Just taken until they decide they’re ready to actually eat it. There’s nothing wrong with the food either it’s perfectly good food, and stuff the kids usually like. Just occasionally one gets fussy for no apparent reason and doesn’t feel like it and wants something else. Kids range from 3-7 so it be like that sometimes 😂 I seriously can’t imagine denying a kid food as punishment though. Snacks yes, meals no. In proper families parents are willing to go without themselves just to see their children fed. It’s one of your most important obligations to feed your kids.

[@junkiejackflash]

"Coffee and chocolate, whiskey and cigars, pee and poop." What a wordsmith you are, Mike.

[@rosechoix]

😅 I loved that!

[@bunnymad5049]

Almost spat my coffee laughing. But coffee should never be wasted. lol

[@Wanderweeds2024]

Give them some honey and spices.

[@forgottenpalace4472]

​@@bunnymad5049 I'm with you on not wasting coffee. Lol

[@soraya377]

11:30 Great video clip. It emphasizes how Kevin was fully aware and condoned Ruby's abusiveness. Still scratching my head as to why, he wasn't arrested.

[@metroid97]

I had a very similar childhood of being locked in a room, given so many pills, beaten and not fed until I was about 15 and got taken by cps. It really does mess you up completely and I'm still struggling.

[@DocBree13]

I’m very sorry 😢 I hope you’re getting help to deal with all of that and that you’ve found some happiness ❤

[@NailahRoberts]

Using your kids for KZbin fame and revenue should be deemed child exploitation

[@ginafrancis4950]

I so agree!

[@bedazzledmisery6969]

No, instead they're gonna try to ban tikktok and then claim the children are the problem and do nothing to actually change legislation that would be effective far further than just to ban one app. Like... Anyone can just make another exact app... The issue isn't solved at all. Lol, yes, ban tikktok but Twitch being as degenerate as it's gotten while being a platform for 13yo? Yeah, nah, that's just art! Wtf ...

[@sircliffordmalcolmjac5870]

Its crazy how normal it is now!!

[@bedazzledmisery6969]

@@sircliffordmalcolmjac5870 because there's no actual legislation that protects children. It's exploited child labor. Honestly, it's also impossible for them to consent so it's literally FORCED. It's also clearly out of hand and, tbh, anyone that enjoyed the channel for the kids is honestly pretty sus to me. What adult enjoys watching kids in media for like... More than a few minutes though? Like ACTUALLY ACTUALLY likes it? Pretty sure it's just NOT that much entertainment besides like a moment or so. Other than watching as a parent to possibly like... Validate their own crazy beliefs because "the mom on this KZbin channel does this so I must be doing things right!" or like... For super random "parenting guides" for someone who, for whatever reason, chooses to think any ol family vlog channel is a good source for parenting training lol. Either way, all parties are a yikes. But yeah, legally, you can have children be able to work as child actors and be put on camera from the moment they come out of the mother. Frfr.

[@genkosan6083]

Like religion exploitation. punishment and reward system based on emotional blackmail, gaslighting and manipulation.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

Her journal entries show just how close Ruby was to going full Lori Vallow. It’s terrifying. She was also torturing those children quite literally and her sentence will be a joke compared to the trauma she inflicted on those children.

[@killjoy3000]

Both Lori and Ruby are Mormons. Not surprising

[@naninolovyou6388]

100% 😢😢😢

[@killjoy3000]

Just like Lori Vallow, Ruby, her husband, and Jody are all Mormons

[@xiaxian11]

And despite the “apology” she made in court, she absolutely believes she did nothing wrong. She’s said in jail calls that she can’t wait to get out and “tell her story” thinking people will still support her. And sadly, some people will.

[@caseyob2690]

Only the crackhead extremist fundamentalists that share ger nonsense views

[@frippyfroo6064]

Been a while since I've watched Mike Came back to see some of the stories I've missed My dad subscribed to you when you had 13k subscribers, he was always proud of that, and your youtube success It wasn't often he missed one of your videos Scrolling through your uploads I realized this video was published on the day he passed 80s movies, hockey, true crime, nature, and vodka, those were the only things he cared for on this earth Thank you for giving him something to look forward to regularly, love you Mike (Let's give it a goo!)

[@DocBree13]

I’m very sorry for your loss - but I’m glad you have good memories of your dad - I hope you’re doing okay ❤

[@laurensmith342]

The young boy is a hero. He saved his siblings. What a brave boy 💔😪😪 utterly heartbreaking

[@swordinhand8356]

When I saw Ruby just sitting there not responding to the officer, all i could see in her head was, ' just wait till I get out of here, those kids are gonna get it."

[@VadaVoo]

Normally all she does is run her mouth. Being silent was the only way she had any type of control. 🤔

[@johrathbun]

She was beyond pissed!

[@judgenjury2036]

She was also likely staying silent, as she knew that if she started to run her mouth, she would divulge a lot of information she's hiding in her sick, twisted mind. I can equally believe she is wondering if her accomplice is going to rat on her the moment the police get her into custody.

[@rlawrence9838]

The way the boy said "well..just one favor actually" was heartbreaking.

[@jrideout2802]

The other favor was probably asking for water and food but he was too afraid to ask

[@Howmyside]

My God that was so heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time… as @jrideout said the second favor was obviously some food and water but the little boy obviously felt it was too much of a burden on the neighbors to ask for a basic need that’s vital for us to survive. I’ll be honest I rarely agree with what the police do because they spend too much time paying attention to the wrong things when there’s things like this and much worse happening to children BUT I must say they did an amazing job along with the EMS. If I were a cop on that scene I would have not been able to control my emotions and likely would have put the case in jeopardy.. I’d at least tighten these devil’s handcuffs till they couldn’t feel their hands. I pray these kids can overcome this pain and trauma. That little boy is a fighter and a survivor… he went into survival mode and broke out of his restraints and escaped thru a window. Who knows how much time he had left if he would have stood in that house.

[@livaugirard3383]

Also the neighbour crying from seeing the state of the child 😢😢😢

[@thegreencat9947]

A favor....tells it all. So sad.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@Howmyside Their humanity came through. Something the parents of those children and Jodi are all lacking.

[@fenwickel4070]

The father “right yeah ok” tf I would be infuriated to hear my children were in that state.

[@yointhebedroom83]

The paramedic that says “I’m gonna cry” was everything 😭

[@ambrabridges2161]

Kevin Franke is no prize, either. He tried to have his 19-year-old daughter arrested after he thought she broke into the family home, but it was actually the police executing a warrant. His daughter went in later and removed some electronics, which she thought she was allowed to do, but immediately returned them when she was asked to. Her father still wanted her arrested, even arguing with the police officer who gave him the items. During his initial interview, he was more concerned about Ruby and defending her than his kids that were in the hospital. When he talked to her in jail, he didn't show one ounce of anger towards her, even after he informed her their son would be hospitalized for three days and Ruby said that was "ridiculous". I hope one of two older kids can take custody of their siblings because I don't trust any of the other adults in their lives.

[@Blcastillo74]

I made a comment about him. Him upset about her being arrested and not about his kids was eye opening. I hope he doesn’t get those kids

[@Back_and_Better_Than_You]

Yeah, he’s not innocent in this.

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

Kevin is trash, just like Jody and Ruby.

[@blazefairchild465]

I don’t think he is interested in the kids, he stayed in a nearby apartment & never asked about his kids or to speak to them on the phone for a whole year. Never even asked if they were doing ok ..6 kids.

[@darktheories1758]

It certainly does no service to the kids to pretend Kevin was stupid. He was a friggin professor, for heaven's sake. He's playing stupid, because he is culpable, he isn't actually stupid. He abused those kids in 8 passengers along with her. Not to forget, he wanted to have his DAUGHTER charged with robbery, for her taking evidence to try to help her siblings.

[@brendafitzgerald3797]

Extremely disturbing that the husband showed zero concern when being informed of his children's shocking situation but went on to state that he loved the crazy ruby and asked about charges she would face. Yet no questions regarding his children. He really doesn't seem to give two flying fu*^s about them.

[@wallyman292]

Yeah. That really stuck out for me as well.

[@loukaya69]

I honestly feel that he knew more than he said. I mean how often did he see his kids that he did know something was going on.

[@wallyman292]

@@loukaya69I think Jodi pretty much had him removed from their lives. I've got a feeling her interests in Ruby went far beyond being merely professional from the get-go, and she wanted to get rid of her main competition.

[@shelleyconnolly8452]

Even more disturbing was when he asked for his older daughter to be arrested for taking a laptop out of his house that she thought would have proof the years of abuse all the older children had also been through .this. was after the arrests...their older children are extremely supportive of the younger ones even tho they have been estranged for years , they have been to CPS themselves

[@user-be8nj1xu2y]

This is how quiverfull families are. They aren't having kids because they want or love kids, they're having kids to try to drown out other races/religions.

[@voidconcept1269]

Fun fact. People tend to blink more when they’re lying or hiding something. She blinks WAY too often.

[@kasaneteto5718]

that 911 call had me in tears and i don't even have kids. 22:15 your damn right, guns drawn.

[@virginiavanni8061]

The video with the boy is so heartbreaking. He was so malnourished yet polite, the man was trying not to cry... And the woman telling the kid "you are a good boy", probably for the first time in forever....

[@Terry-lh8cn]

Or ever.

[@ChoppingtonOtter]

Clearly good folks.

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

In the news video, he was taking the blame for it. Saying it was 'my fault'.

[@markbaker5599]

​@@ChoppingtonOtterno, not good folks. Normal folks. Its not a 'good' thing to feel protective and kind towards a child, its a normal thing. Anything less is an abhoration.

[@TAGMZs63]

Child abusers are the lowest. Sending your child to school without lunch and hoping no one gives them food is sick and twisted. Normal moms don't think that way. You don't train your children, you train your animals. You raise children with love, compassion and guidance. I hope their beds are so uncomfortable and the other women show them what it feels like to be bullied. I hope they're both kept in prison for the maximum time. Thank God the poor little boy went to the neighbors. I don't understand why the father wasn't charged as well. Kevin is a POS coward who did nothing to help his children.

[@veenoir1991]

Dude I don't even let my kids go to school on a bad note even if they were the one legitimately throwing a fit. Let alone fkn hungry. Lucky for me my kids will raise hell if needed. Anecdotal story, my daughter (10) was helping her nervous friend go to the bathroom and a lunchroom teacher cleared their lunch trays while they were up...let's just say she'll ask every kid before she does that from now on 😅😅

[@This-Is-My-Little-Corner]

What this video didn’t say is that child that went to school without lunch was six years old

[@Lola-AreaCode212]

The words "training kids", yes. What a red flag. I have read these words SO OFTEN in fb comments from Franke- type mothers that it scares me. One does not "train" kids. One teaches them and raises them, with a LOT of love and understanding.

[@dionnefaulkes]

And they always look healthy and well fed, she's not the usual obese subject but definitely healthy.

[@roygeorge5364]

​@@This-Is-My-Little-Cornerreally? Only 6? The teachers in my country have mandatory reporting - meaning a mother refusing to bring food to her 6 year old would be reported to the child protective services. The extremist Mormons all stick together though, so her kids were probably at a Mormon school. 🤷 Enjoy your day mate.

[@carabiner7999]

22:04 When First Responders cry, you know it's massive, as they see a lot.

[@anthonyjohnson100]

I don’t understand how a parent could do this stuff to their children. It’s disgusting and they should never see their children again.

[@cdes1776]

It took officers over FOUR HOURS for Eve to be able to leave on her own steam. She wasn't forced. She was afraid to eat the offered pizza; you could see she was wrestling between her fear and hunger. Officers handled her so well. Sitting with her, but also giving her space.

[@ambrabridges2161]

She was so hungry, she ate a personal pizza, then almost half of a large pizza.

[@sodacan1415]

"on her own steam"? what?

[@cdes1776]

@sodacan1415 In this context it means when she was ready emotionally without being carried out.

[@cdes1776]

@ambrabridges2161 You could really see her struggle. It was painful, those minutes.

[@sj-art]

It is an old saying meaning under her own power. ​@@sodacan1415

[@msbadkittie]

the most upsetting moments are when the neighbor calls 911 and starts crying. and when the EMT comes out after seeing the condition of the children and she’s in tears. thank God that boy had the courage to break out of the house and go get help. he’s so brave. these women are pure evil.

[@Bobroblox214]

That was hard, dad and mom shared no tears. the level of evil

[@TheSuzberry]

He was amazing. He’d already been caught and savagely punished once.

[@josealqueres]

That moment had me crying. 😭😭

[@msbadkittie]

@@josealqueres me, too 😢

[@roguereviews8141]

You want to thank an imaginary sky wizard? The same imaginary sky wizard these freaks did this in the name of? I suppose you subscribe to the no true Scotsman fallacy? They couldn't have been real religious people, because they did something terrible. Guess what? Most of the terrible things in this world were done in the name of an imaginary sky wizard. If there was really a god, then this crap wouldn't be happening.

[@bchearne]

The husband was only concerned about his own legal exposure, didn’t have one thing to say about his son being tied up. What a great guy

[@austinkatz1551]

31:06 the officers chuckle completely disarmed her little act and tore her apart on the inside😂

[@nbgilbert]

A negligent father as culpable as the mother. No excuses for him. He had parental responsibility… he took none..

[@OutspokenShy]

Exactly what I said. They should view the yt videos and bring forth charges.

[@Nicholem718-1]

He wasn’t negligent. He was complicit. He was only worried about Ruby. No concern for his children.

[@nbgilbert]

@@Nicholem718-1 agreed. Complicit is a better description..

[@ssing7113]

As a father to an autistic kid and a very controlling ex wife. I don’t care what goes on or “how I feel”. I see my kid everyday, as that’s a real man’s duty and responsibility to raise his offspring. I’ve done through some dark times. Bad situations. . Yet I always showed up for my kid everyday as I let nothing control making sure my kid knew I was there for him no matter what This POS should be locked up with them as well

[@amityislandchum]

Exactly. I'm so sick of people acting like he's innocent. He knew what was happening (most likely participated in it as well), as he belongs in prison too.

[@AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf]

At some point during Kevin's first interview, he said he had not seen his children in over a year. Jodi told him to walk away, and he did. Right after being told about the condition in which his youngest son was found, his concern was the level of punishment for his wife. He so easily abandoned his children and never looked back, never even tried to talk with them. IMO, he is also unfit to parent any child.

[@austinv9964]

He was likely a victim of abuse. His wife and counselor were manipulative and abusive and ganged up on him. Also Of course he wanted her punished when he found out his child was being physically abused.

[@ultimately-sabrina]

They were both raised in strict Mormon traditions where children aren’t considered human beings at some extremes. They are products of religious indoctrination and their attitudes towards their children prove it. There is so much corruption and abuse in some of these religious groups.

[@seroquelz]

​@@austinv9964we could give him the benefit of a doubt, but he knew she used food as a punishment, he knew his son had his bed taken away, and on a jailhouse phone call he promised to "keep the children in Truth". He isn't the best choice for these children. Is he redeemable? Hopefully! But right now I wouldn't trust him or that extended family.

[@vee1545]

@@austinv9964he was definitely victimised by ruby and Jodi, that doesn’t mean he’s a competent or caring parent. He is at best an enabler who seems totally unconcerned with his kids, I’d encourage you to watch their old videos and the interview footage post arrest. Plus he tried to have his elder daughter arrested for going into the home to get clothes etc for her younger siblings, his primary concern was getting her arrested, not seeing if his kids were safe. So yeah, two things can be true at once, Kevin had a crappy marriage but he also, at best, abandoned his kids to a wife he believed was under the thumb of an unstable maniac and then, once they were freed, seems to have continued to be utterly unconcerned with taking care of them 🤷‍♀️ and that is imo a generous read of the situation lol

[@henzoko5946]

Didnt you post this somewhere else? Stop trying to take blame off the women.

[@bathingcatsonacloudyday]

"We're living in the darkest timelime" 😂 We see you, Abed...

[@CdnMommy3]

I feel so bad for these kids. I often wonder why they never called 911.. but I guess they became too scared

[@monicawatson2537]

The husband 100% knew. He didnt ask or even show panic or concern for his kids when the police take him in. He was uncooperative with questions and didnt act surprised when they told him information. He knew and is just as much to blame

[@Kraftpunk1983vc]

Dirt bag tried to press charges against his daughter for taking a laptop from his home. Didnt care at all about the abuse she was enduring. I hope he gets arrested soon, hes an awful person and abuser.

[@margaretlumley1648]

​@Kraftpunk1983vc yes, he's total scum IMO

[@drugsdelaney2907]

This kind of behavior is rampant throughout the entire religion.

[@downhomesunset]

@@drugsdelaney2907It’s a cult. All religions are, but Mormons are up there with Scientology for screwed up in North America

[@hollyreese126]

I hate how much the officer spoke for him. He should have kept quiet and let this guy ramble on until he lets something slip.

[@Josh_Andrade]

Those poor kids, that mother is a freak show

[@AlbionRising]

No, her mother is a sociopath and now trying to play the victim card.

[@Rylynn2017]

Mother???

[@kokoskokso]

Kevin needs to go down too. In general, I wonder when there will be laws passed against putting kids on the internet. She clearly is a narcissist using them as props and pawns for her own personal use and fame and they had no say in this at all.

[@AlbionRising]

@@kokoskokso yes. I think Mike should do a special feature of this case because there's hours of evidence, phone calls, journals where all the horrible things are exposed. And he didn't care about his kids first thing he said was he loved his wife and how she was. Never questioned the health of his kids and was never angry at her on the contrary he said he loves her and will stand up for her. Ah when their oldest daughter went to get all the evidence to their house (phones computers journals etc) he even said they should arrest her for doing that. He is a c*ck beta "male" that let the torture happen to his kids when someone should be protecting them. I think he might get charges (hopefully) they might be gathering evidence because he still doesn't have custody of the kids which is a good thing.

[@mack8488]

The rocky horror show.....👹

[@djc6323]

How do so many evil ppl manage to find each other? I hope those children are getting the therapy, love and healing they need and deserve.

[@dolldoll2914]

👩🏻‍💻Retired Utah teacher here. Over the 17 years of primarily teaching 1st grade, I don't know how many school lunches I bought for students who forgot to bring a lunch, for non payment, &c. The reasons don't matter, children study, work, and BEHAVE better when there is gas in their tummies for their brains to work. I always kept a lunch tab for me so money was the least worry. Besides, this is an adult problem and/or fault, why punish the child for parent negligence. Schools can afford a full lunch, not a partial lunch, for emergencies when school lunch is government subsidized 50%. When parents chaperoned the field trips I supplied them with a school brown bag lunch for helping that day. When kids don't eat, kids don't have the energy to learn, then I have a problem in the classroom. For the first 3 or 4 weeks of school I had to teach the children to sit and eat their lunch to get outside for playtime, they had no concept of time and using it wisely.

[@anthonyjohnson100]

This “father” should be charged right along with his wife because he did NOTHING to protect his children and he knew what was going on. There’s no way he didn’t know.

[@kdizzle901]

Yea it’s called neglect

[@roberthint9573]

Lol yaaaa okay. You’re dumb

[@Li9LoP]

That poor neighbour … a decent human!

[@taylorsimmons255]

What breaks me is how the 12 year old was still trying to be “mature” by evading the neighbor’s question about “what happened?” and the boy replying, “just some personal stuff.” Like 😢

[@Shaz-gq7pv]

Heartbreaking that poor child was scared in case he was sent home he was afraid to trust adults probably first time he was showed kindness by adult

[@Real_Steve_Sharpe]

Devil's advocate: Was he really trying to be 'mature', or was he just giving the simplest possible answer he could because he understood that a quick answer is more valuable than a detailed answer in that specific instance?

[@nicwelch]

That’s not maturity. That’s fear. The fear a child has when their parents are abusive.

[@kimmeallay5043]

​@@nicwelchI see both side

[@Andyisgodcky]

He believed he belonged in prison, because his mother and the demon his mother brought into their home tortured him into believing he was possed by the devil and belonged in prison unless he repented, and it finally got to the point where the boy decided he preferred prison and the devil to her abuse

[@TheLikenessOfNormal]

You can tell that the old man's heart was absolutely BROKEN.

[@einienj3281]

When the first controversy about taking away his bed and the room door came out, I knew she was evil.

[@mleh2512]

Here’s to those good neighbors we feel we can go to at our worst times. That kind elderly couple’s response to that poor terrified little boy was the only redeeming part of it. Happy Weekend, Friends (& Good Neighbors)

[@SarinaSazi]

This comment made me smile. Thank you ❤

[@MzGH2011]

Him asking if his wife is ok , but not one concern about his kids. Told me everything I needed to know about this man.

[@hitleractually8180]

The footage was heavily edited and taken out of context. Because it was a snippet cut from a larger interview, we have no way of knowing what he said in regards to the kids, nor do we know when in the sequence of statements did he inquire about his wife.

[@maryperry1773]

@@hitleractually8180I listened to his whole interview. He never asks about his children. He only cries for Ruby and asks about what will happen to her. I hope he never gets custody. Hadn’t seen his children in over a year and only has eyes for Ruby.

[@flowerjpotter1629]

​@@maryperry1773 True. It was shocking his concern was for his wife not were the children going to be alright.

[@marvinsgardenproduce798]

Ruby's peach must be top notch

[@elizabethrodgers8616]

Exactly! Even fatter heating the kids were injured, malnourished! My husband would be furious.. he would insist on going g to hospital!

[@Ezinma88]

I think Kevin has some culpability in this too. The man was not working at the university anymore. Sounds like he may have had to 'resign' from that jailhouse call he had with Ruby. So, what was he doing and where was he during this whole business? Where was his spine? You don't have to see Ruby in order to be in touch - even remotely - with your children. You had one job, Kevin. One job.